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• ejbonk

  Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:10am

  This is what a Free and Open Discussion is suppost to look like.

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• Ted Ralston

  Posted on November 13, 2011 at 9:22pm

  PACOMJ60, you have a right smart bit of friction going on inside you. You cite “the Ayatollahs,” but I don’t understand the reference. If you refer to it to infer that Christian faith in the US is like Islam faith in the Middle East, sadly, you are way off. Are you coming at this from the perspective of an athiest, saying that there is no good model of faith? Quite honest, only in America with it’s blood-bought freedom can you do that. Go to the Middle East and rail on “the Ayatollahs” and see what happens. I have plenty of career military in my family, I’m proud of each one; and I’m grateful for the freedoms we have because of selfless service. Please don’t tell me I have to personally serve, or serve in the way you did for me to have a healthy respect for the military service sacrifice. Your anger is obvious, but your purpose is confusing at best. Clarify…

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  • pacomj60

    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 8:38am

    For some reason you seem to miss the point. My point is that when religion is injected into politics it violates the Constitution. If this doesn’t bother you then something is wrong.
    Faith is an individual thing not a political tool. How can you not understand the reference to the Ayatollahs? They push a political agenda using religion as the cover. We have large groups of individuals who push their interpretation of a religion for political purposes. Get real you have the right to live here given you aren’t another illegal, but you do not have the right to inject any religion into politics.
    I have the right to judge individuals by their actions. One action that matters to me is actually upholding and defending the Constitution. All you need to do is realize 1% of us insure 99% of you can respond as you have to my comments. That alone shows I have accomplished something worthy.

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• Ted Ralston

  Posted on November 12, 2011 at 1:29pm

  Viewing this interview comes at a time when I am earnestly concerned with the emphasis our local church should take. I do not believe God has called the church to establish the US government. He has called believers to influence the direction and quality of American government. The church does that with an emphasis on discipleship of people who will then go into their world and serve in Jesus’ name.
  Next, I believe the Christian faith is a thinking faith. The American church has a horrible track record on this. Kinasan’s new book, “You Lost Us,” brings to light that we have for too long stayed out of intellectual, educational and formational discussions, so the world has now perceived that one cannot be a thinker and be a Christian at the same time. We cannot blame the world for this, we have to take responsibility, self evaluate and change course.
  If we wish to create an environ of outreach and discipleship in the present-day culture, we must enter the discussion with biblical clarity, studied foundation, and a practice of truth as our focus. Too long has the American church been insulated by comforting beliefs, isolated by “separatist theology,” and impacted upon rather than impacting our world. We will continue to lose teens and 20/30-somethings until the church shows the God-intended viability of His truth to the world as we know it.
  I am mindful that the Church is neither Republican or Democrat. I am mindful that Biblical truth sets the platform for f

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• Rex Morache

  Posted on November 11, 2011 at 8:38pm

  So PACOMJ60, your historic revisionists gobbledegook of the Bible is so off I LOL.
  I assume you are an Atheist, Secular Humanist, yada yada.

  Atheism is a faith based religion as declared by the Supreme Court of the US. It’s unproven theory of adult science fiction, sprinkled with the fairy dust of time, which is supposed to make it a reasonable facsimile of the truth.

  Atheism: The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs. Makes Perfect Sense . . . Right?

  Our government has worked it’s political correctness scam so well that we NOW do have an “Established State Religion” its called Secular Humanistic Atheism, which spews it’s Godophobia with intolerant hypocrisy.

  I’m Just Sayin’ Pastor Rex

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  • pacomj60

    Posted on November 13, 2011 at 8:50am

    I must assume facts don’t matter to you. Second don’t presume to judge what I believe as you haven’t been in combat nor have you and others who are scared about facts have ever stood for anything other than running your mouth about your interpretation of religion. This kind of response is exactly what the Ayatollahs say. Do note that Islam is a political system not a religious one and it is this kind of thinking that creates my concerns. I am not interested in seeing my country run by a US versions of the Ayatollahs. Heck it you want to be one go to Saudi Arabia there you can tell women what to do and even own one as well. Step up, join up, and serve in Afghanistan. Once you have done that your opinion may have merit.
    By the way it is my constitution – I stood up for it and I continue to defend it and my youngest daughter is the fifth generation doing the same. You?? In fact I stopped responding to this to take a Skype call from her in Afghanistan just minutes ago. She is a Combat Advisor imbedded in an Afgan military hospital. Note the word Combat – yet she is a Navy Rheumatologist. Ten years of medical training to become a Combat Advisor first and a Doctor second. I doubt any of you who think a religion run country is acceptable have a clue to the real world. Just stay out of my world as I don’t take kindly to those who blindly read something and then tell me god said it.

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• pacomj60

  Posted on November 11, 2011 at 6:34pm

  Gotta believe what the Evangelicals believe – yea right! These people seem to forget the bible was written by men over 400 years. No one was at any of the events covered in the book, because the calendar they believe in was an off shoot of the Julian calendar created in 45 BC by the Romans. It was modified and then adopted by the Decree of the Council of Trent. The modification was created by Exiguus in 533 AD and all of it was based on pagan dates.
  The bible was actually created in 100 year periods and that is why it contradicts itself so many times that it is impossible to accept it as anything other than man trying to explain the unknown. More importantly the Evangelicals have crossed the boundary between church and state stipulated in my Constitution. Thus they are intentionally and directly in violation of the Constitution and should be tried in a federal court for trying to ram religious beliefs down my throat and others. Remember the Constitution protects my right to my religious beliefs and protects me from those of others who want me to live by their rules. The Ayatollahs think the same way. Believe our political system or it is our purpose to is to kill those who don’t want to follow the political of Shea law.

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  • Ted Ralston

    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 12:35pm

    Your term “my Constitution” is a very ‘telling’ term. In fact it is not your Constitution, it is the Constitution of the United States of America. It does protect your rights, but it also calls on your responsibility to unify under the form of a constituional democracy–something that you stated self-centerness appears to not let you do. You in fact speak of an ‘interpretative view’ of the Constitution. Frankly, your interpretation is shallow, self-serving and mis-informed. The anarchy in your words would never come to pass if you were someone who truly believed in constitutional democracy. Yes, you have the right to use the constitution to say whatever you want–but you cannot use it to do anything you want to do. It is what this discussion is all about–constitutional limitations–they are real, they have a purpose, and they have great benefits for everyone…even you. BTW–your lack of study into the origin and development of the canon of Scripture is harmful at the least. Please do not speak of things you have not looked at thoroughly…

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• findingtruth

  Posted on November 11, 2011 at 4:21pm

  Lisa Sharon Harper was confused about when life begins? Every medical book or biology book will tell you that life begins at conception. Lisa Sharon Harper said we should look to science when talking about this subject then ignores what science says.
  Lisa, life begins at conception. Science says so!

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• lambsev

  Posted on November 11, 2011 at 3:08pm

  Jesus is not a democrat or a republican, He is God the Son! His form of Government is a Kingdom, and He is the (eternal) King!

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  • Tracy Y. Andersen

    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 9:49pm

    Yes, His government is a kingdom, but of what form?

    There are two main forms of government on the earth at this time, top-down or bottom-up. 1. King, dictator, tyrant, etc. 2. Democracy, vox populi, etc. (And our Republic, incorporating democracy.)

    However, the Kingdom of Heaven, and the Kingdom prevailing during the Millenium, under Christ’s rule, is neither. It operates by Common Consent, where everyone under that rule agrees, in common, with the laws laid down by the Master. If someone is uncomfortable with that law, they may move to a lower kingdom, where they will feel more comfortable. There are three main kingdoms, Telestial, Terrestrial and Celestial, and degrees or levels within those kingdoms, where one will settle in most comfortably. Each lower level is administered and governed by the next higher kingdom.

    To anticipate a question, remember that Jesus said that “In my Father’s house, are many mansions” or levels, or degrees, to accommodate the variety of souls. And Paul, in 2 Cor. 12:2, tells of one “…caught up… to the third heaven…” And elsewhere, the heavens are likened to the sun, moon and stars, and two are named, Celestial and Terrestrial, but the third, likened to the variety of stars, is unnamed.

    Then, of course, there is the kingdom of no glory, or “outer darkness,” where lucifer and his minions will be, as well as those not deserving of any glory, due to unrepentant sin.

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• Jim AZ

  Posted on November 11, 2011 at 2:44pm

  I gotta go with neither left nor right, but Libertarian–Find a biblical argument against That!

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• Jim AZ

  Posted on November 11, 2011 at 2:31pm

  Roe v. Wade did NOT address viability. It addressed privacy. It did not establish or address viability or person-hood.
  From Sojourners? really?

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• olderthandirt10

  Posted on November 11, 2011 at 1:53pm

  The above interview was an interesting one. I did notice that the left leaning author did not deal with the question of when life begins. Or if she did, I thought that it was rather superficial. Out of curiosity I googled the question and am attaching a site you may find interesting. As a Christian I have learned much from the bible. The psalms are special to me. Psalm 139 is a powerful statement that God is the author of all life and it is His to give and take. From what I have gathered in reviewing the attached, science is clear that life begins at conception. Enjoyed the interview. thanks!

  http://www.whyprolife.com/life-in-the-womb/

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  • 4blackhorses

    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 6:14pm

    That was great!! Not quite as old as dirt but rapidly gaining on rock!

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