My contribution to this Obamacare debate
I just got up to speed (OK, it’s Friday afternoon and I skimmed) on the ping-pong between Nick Rizzuto and Meredith Jessup over the Obamacare decision (scroll down to get the rundown). As best I can tell, they’re arguing about what exactly a tax is and if the decision really expanded Congress’ tax power. I’ll leave the nuance mostly to them, but I will make this contribution via Richard Epstein over at Hoover:
The Mandate: A Penalty or Tax?
The Chief Justice looks more like a batter seeking to execute a suicide squeeze than an umpire calling balls and strikes. At this point, labels no longer matter. What matters is whether Congress imposed a tax or imposed a penalty. In answering that question, the Chief Justice ignores the wide range of institutional safeguards that are required before taxes could be imposed.
The Obama administration went out of its way to say that it did not plan to impose any taxes, in part because of its no-new taxes pledge, and in part to get a favorable route for the Act through the Congress. That route did not lie through the House of Representatives, where all tax measures must originate. These procedural steps are part of the structural Constitution. Umpires usually try to use consistent definitions because otherwise they are well aware that there is a risk in equivocation: The political actor, meanwhile, can first pick this and then that definition to suit his convenience.
But it gets worse. The basic theory of taxation is that we are all in it together. The point here is that the taxes are generally imposed to create some form of public good, to which all citizens should be required to contribute. We have, unfortunately, relaxed that notion of taxation so that transfer payments from A to B fall within a tortured definition of what counts as the “general welfare of the United States,” where the last four words are constantly ignored today. But a second constraint still remains—namely, that the taxes come from all segments of the population.
The moment we allow a tax targeted just on those people who wish to opt out of the mandate on the ground that they get a raw deal from the government, the power of selective abuse is increased, thereby allowing a majority of the population to impose a so-called tax on whatever subgroup of the population it wishes to tax for the benefit of another. Put otherwise, it is not easy to think of any traditional tax or credit that hits only those who don’t buy healthcare insurance on their own accounts. The extra flexibility is one unfortunate way in which the Chief Justice as statesman clashes with the Chief Justice as umpire.
Okay, take a breath. If you didn’t read that and instead skimmed it because it’s Friday afternoon (I love you!), here’s Epstein’s conclusion (emphasis added):
The original intuition was that general welfare of the United States only covered standard public goods, leaving all welfare functions to the state. That position was obviously abandoned. But in its place, the rule was that the taxation power could never be used as an indirect form of regulation that Congress could not impose directly. That is exactly the argument that Chief Justice Roberts holds for the Commerce Clause, but at no point does he address the connection between the two clauses.
The entire edifice that underlies the ACA on this critical mandate thus rests on a constitutional house of cards. If the legislation fails under the Commerce Clause, there is no reason to resurrect it by engaging in extravagant machinations with the words “tax” and “penalty.” No umpire would accept such a shaky result. No statesman should either.
Yes, you’ve just been Epsteined — via being Seidled.
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bluegrandma52
Posted on July 1, 2012 at 3:46pmActually, if Obamacare stands, this tax will eventually be paid by almost everybody who’s not on welfare. The idea is very simple. If your income is above the 133% poverty level cutoff, and you don’t want to buy insurance, you pay the tax. The tax is WAY less than most premiums to private ins, and you get put on the gov’t system. Soon, everyone who has more than 2 brain cells pays the tax, private ins companies go out of business, and the only insurance left is Uncle Sam’s. Taxes on everything else under the sun go up to pay for it, and we end up like the EU or Canada. Neat trick, huh? And that’s not even including the 20 or so other new taxes/tax hikes buried in the other 2699 pages of this abomination. So get out your beer and sunhats and go to the beach. Live it up now, because you sure aren’t going to be able to later. As Tom Lehrer put it: “We will all go together when we go.”
BTW, in order to administer this dreck, the IRS will want a 1040 from every person in the country, illegals included. And HHS will grow. And the debt will grow…and grow….and grow.
Stupid has consequences.
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brickmoon
Posted on June 30, 2012 at 4:38pmMy only comment in this insightful debate addresses a previous point by Meredith Jessup:
“Paying into Medicare and Social Security is mandated, for example — meaning everyone has to do it and you have no choice in the matter.”
Correct me if I’m wrong, but apparently not *everyone* must pay into those programs. For example, is not a hermit, living on roots and berries and making just enough to survive, subject to the tax/penalty mandated by the ACA? If somebody drags him to the hospital for some reason, would he not essentially be assessed a penalty?
If so, the legislation is no less than a tax on breathing. I’m not a lawyer or a constitutional scholar, but is that legal?
Unfortunately, for some reason, I understand the hermit lobby is woefully understaffed.
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Keep Your Skepticals On
Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:58pmI still rest on the fact that the purpose of taxation is to generate adequate revenue to fund programs. The purpose of penalty is to prohibit behavior. Clearly the intent of the ACA is to provide universal healthcare – and the BETTER it does to achive that goal the LESS revenue the penalties generate. Completely counterproductive to the purpose of taxation if you ask me.
Kinda like red light cameras. They make people stop running red lights… but if they generate revenue… which can only happen when people run red lights… so it’s ineffective and they want money. Or it is effective… fewer run red lights… and little revenue is generated. If they say it’s a tax meant to generate revenue they obvisouly expect it to be ineffective, but the ACA was so strongly crafted to be effective against persons and states, as well as fully funded by other sources, the penalties are hardly an argueable “source of funding” for the program. It is not their purpose.
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Simple-James
Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:01pmI will add that this bill is now no longer constitutionally allowed given that ALL taxation bills/acts must be voted on in the HoR. The Senate is who approved this bill. Obama sidestepped the Constitution of the United States yet once again.
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