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Who won V.P. debate? Here’s what the national papers say…

Oct. 12, 2012 8:47am

New York Times gives it to Biden: “Vice President Joseph Biden Jr. would not sit still for a parade of misleading and often blatantly untruthful descriptions of the state of the economy and the Republican prescriptions for it. Though his grins and head-shakes were often distracting, he did not hesitate to interrupt and demand an end to ‘malarkey.’ The result, expertly controlled by the moderator, Martha Raddatz of ABC News, was both entertaining and enlightening.”

Washington Post wasn’t impressed: “At times Mr. Biden struck us as unduly condescending; Mr. Ryan, a touch unsure of his footing. But their performances both were fine; their weaknesses were less in presentation than in the failure of their tickets, in different ways, to offer an honest road map of their intentions for governing.”

Wall Street Journal wasn’t either: “By unofficial media counts, Mr. Biden interrupted the Republican some 80 to 100 times. Mr. Ryan let the bully get away with too much for our tastes, at least until he finally pushed back on the interruptions or until Mr. Biden lost steam in the last half hour. But as anyone who’s been in a tavern past midnight understands, it’s hard to win a fight with a guy who is shouting from the corner bar stool.

“No doubt the performance cheered Democrats who needed cheering after last week, but we wonder how well it played with independents or undecided voters who tuned in to learn something.”

USA Today calls it a draw: “It was for all immediate purposes a draw, nothing like like last week when virtually all the instant analysis saw an overwhelming Romney win. Partisans on both sides seemed pleased, and an instant CNN poll found Ryan winning 48%-44%, a statistical deadheat given the poll’s plus or minus 5% margin of error.

“But that does not mean the debate was lacking in information, substantive and subjective, that could influence voters’ decisions.”

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  • dhaneshaney
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 4:28pm

    NEW YORK TIMES… what a joke they are… no ne even reads thm anymore. Liberal whores!

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  • h20sue
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 4:03pm

    I’d say all the journalist are half-wits, as clearly, Biden was a pain in the butt, extremely rude, and I disliked him shaking his hands in my face. I’d also say his respective debate professor, must have taught him “over kill”. At least he toned his temper as I heard Biden’s temper is awful. Several times he looked as if he wanted to pop! It wasn’t a debate, it was a disgrace for the liberals. Neither Biden or Obama are aware of what each are doing. No wonder the administration isn’t going to back Biden or stand behind him. Who the heck would? This is the number one reason the country is in dyer shape. They are not suited for each other. Neither are intelligent. Just two huge bags of hot air!

    I think it was also very rude to have a liberal and defined democrat (Martha Raddatz) run the event. She allowed Biden to interrupt Paul Ryan way to often. This was a disgrace. Ralph Nadar or Ross Perot would have done a much better job! At least it would have been more civilized. Hopefully that will be the last time we have to view Martha R. She leans too far to the left…..I’m surprised she didn’t fall out of her chair. Are you reading this Martha? I certainly hope so…..

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    • dhaneshaney
      Posted on October 12, 2012 at 4:29pm

      I would say you are a person of great wisdom. Joe Biden acted like a horses a ss. My apologies to the nearest horses a ss!

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  • Hurricane
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 3:57pm

    Biden looked very cocky like he knows everything. Biden has been lying through his teeth since he came into office just like President Obama. They took 700 million dollars out of Medicare to support Obama Care. Ryan and Romney want to put that 700 million back into medicare. Basically Obama wants to kill your grandparents and the elderly and give them no benefits. You want benefits? If your answer is yes then vote for Romney/Ryan!!! If not then die in hell. I don’t give a damn!!!!

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  • XenaWP
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 3:48pm

    I thought the debate was good, except for the fact that bidens smirks and condencending smiles and laughing, brought a sence of hostility to the debate that did not need to be there. biden was clearly trying too hard to make up for obamas epic fall. Ryan was respectful and held his own.

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  • doctorL
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 3:33pm

    Dearest Crazy Uncle Joe:
    May I be so bold as recommend you to the words of President Lincoln who wrote, “If you once forfeit the confidence of your fellow coitizens you can never regain their repect and esteem. It is true
    that you may fool all of the people some of the time , you can even fool some of the people all of the time; but you can’t fool all of the people all the time..”

    Mr. Ryan,

    Sir, it is often wise (as you did ) and great sport to allow fools to “hoist themselves on their own petar”

    great job

    doctorL  
  • deanied
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 3:32pm

    Poor Joe…he has worn out his welcome. Libia lies, disrespectful & was just an imbarrassment! Ryan showed some class & restraint…I would have slapped the old geezer!

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  • Melissa2011B
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 3:31pm

    I think Joe Biden behaved like a 10 year old last night. I’ve always thought of him kinda like the Dark Clowns in Tripping the Rift.

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    • Claus
      Posted on October 12, 2012 at 6:28pm

      I heard someone today make a Rick Flair (the nation’s oldest and oddest and whitest haired flamboyant TV wrestler) trademark “Woooooooo” shout. My mind’s eye flashed to last night’s VP Debate. Picture a split screen of Rick Flair and VP Joe Biden. It would be like twin brothers verbally brawling, but what Rick Flair says would make more sense, and the wrestler would not talk over his opponent’s lines.

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  • Pritch
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 3:20pm

    I’ll bet the New York Times had written that Joe Biden was the winner by 6:00 PM. He could have missed the debate altogether and they would have declared him the winner!! That rag is an absolute joke!!

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  • joecaff2
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 3:15pm

    The only thing missing from the VP debate last night was that Martha Raddatz forgot to wear her Obama Biden 2012 pin. Maybe she could have simply pulled her chair right next to Joey Biden (the laughing nitwit) since she is an obvious supporter and the debate was basically Congressman Ryan vs. Raddatz & Biden. At least that would have given viewers the appearance of transparency. Not only was Biden rude and unprofessional Raddatz interruptions of Paul Ryan were an obvious effort to assist the senile inappropriate and often dishonest answers and statements made by nutty Joey Biden. Biden acted like an undisciplined child who couldn’t control is own emotions. How unfortunate that the Presidential Debate Commission can’t seem to find one single conservative to moderate any of the debates. The PDDP (Propaganda Division of the Democrat Party formerly known as the Mainstream Media MSM) once again shows all who bothered to watch that they will do anything to help Obama and Biden get reelected even if that means they will lose audience share in the long-run. How sad that Conservative American’s (who are the majority of our country) don’t have a voice at traditional broadcast and most cable stations. I have little doubt that everyone at ABC was proud of Raddatz performance last night; unfortunately the real losers were the American public. Raddatz may never understand the damage that she personally did to the nation by helping Joey Biden perpetuate his lies while scrutinizing P

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    • Coligirl49
      Posted on October 12, 2012 at 3:27pm

      Joe, your comments are spot on! I felt exactly the same way and wanted to muzzle them both so I could actually hear a response from Ryan. They were tag teaming as if it was very well rehearsed.

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  • lerose55
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 2:41pm

    I guess I am considered one of the Swing Voters, I thought Biden was very rude and inconsiderate, condescending not only to Ryan, but the American people. I would have liked to hear the answers to the questions that were asking of Ryan.

    My big concerns were Medicare and Social Security, and Medical Insurance I know something has to be done, that it is running out for the baby boomers. So I wish the moderator would have shut Biden up, so she could have pressed both candidates for the answers to what their plans were.

    This debate was a total waste of time, Biden was making a joke out of the whole debate. Maybe he should keep his foot in his mouth, so we didn’t have to be so disrespected by him.
    My vote is still open and I was very angry with Biden. I wanted answers from him & Ryan.

    I think I am finished w/ Obama/Biden.

    Theres a problem in Egypt:
    They want a new Muslim leader
    Give them Ours
    Bye, Bye Obama !

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  • ROGERGB
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 2:35pm

    Joe Biden acted as stupidly as his boss as I guess he did not know that he was on split screen TV and was making a complete ass of himself in front of 70 million people. It remeinded me of a childish child trying to impress someone by acting like a japery.

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    • deanied
      Posted on October 12, 2012 at 3:30pm

      Correct…Joe acted like a bafoon & has worn out his welcome! Very rude & lied as bad as BO! Ryan was respectful & showed restraint! I would have slapped the old geezer!

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    • Hurricane
      Posted on October 12, 2012 at 3:59pm

      you are exactly right. Biden and Obama lie through they’re teeth and the Respect Biden had last night which was none was completely irrivocable. He has totally worn out his welcome with the American people which it’s better to have a Mormon President than to have a Moron President if you know what I mean.

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  • taxlady1
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 2:31pm

    Biden came across as a rude old man. the moderator was totally anti-romney. GOD help us if obamass gets re-elected.

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    • deanied
      Posted on October 12, 2012 at 3:35pm

      Keep the faith…R&R will win! I pray we all have a GREAT Thanksgiving & a real celebration. If BO gets in again it will be done illegally just like everything he has done in office & there WILL be trouble! Let’s hope for the best & pray for R&R!

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    • DennisHabern1
      Posted on October 12, 2012 at 4:49pm

      He will not become re-elected. His cat is out of the bag. He has shown his true colors, too many

      times. By now, everyone should be aware of this closet Muslim, un-American usurper, a wolf in

      sheeps clothing. This Moron care nothing for his adopted country (he is not an American) but

      everything for his Muslim domain, if you follow. Once a Muslim, always a Muslim. This leopard

      cannot change his spots. I wonder where in the White House he hides his prayer-rug?

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  • Shockwave222
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 2:28pm

    Biden flat-out lied to the American people about security requests made to the State Department by the Ambassador and others. It’s time to replace these two…there is no other way.

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  • greatgram2
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 2:08pm

    Biden reminded me of a monkey trying to make people laugh. All he would have needed to do to convince me he really was one was to scratch his ribs and jump and down. What a disappointment for a vice-president, and may this be his last term, please God.

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  • Patriot1791
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 1:58pm

    Having watched the VP debate last night, I have to say that Joe Biden really came across to me as a smug crotchety old b@$Β₯@Β£d & a snake oil salesman. He was rude to Mr.Ryan and the debate moderator. Ryan on the other hand was totally professonal. It’s time for Biden to retire, let’s make it happen next month!

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  • ricajim
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 1:35pm

    If the debate did one thing, it was to show clearly why there is no partisanship in Congress. I can’t imagine trying to get a democrat (like Biden) to even listen to what the other side has to say. Hopefully Romney, who did well working with Massachusetts Democrats will do better. Let us make sure he has a chance.

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  • monhomri21
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 1:32pm

    i watch the debate and i thought i was a tie and i have a vary vary clear bias towards Ryan. even i thought both lied (Biden by a larger margin) no lie was bigger than Biden claim that the Obama Administration did not receive any indication of a terrorist attack. the ambassador had requested for additional security in Benghazi and was repeatedly denied.

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  • Raymond Koepsell
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 1:32pm

    Hello?

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  • The Bulletproof Patriot
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 1:03pm

    I’m sorry to say it, but The Blaze has really gone downhill over the last couple of months. There used to be the occasional typo, but now I’m routinely seeing noticeable grammatical errors even in HEADLINES – “Hereβ€˜s what the national paper’s say…” Excuse me, Mr. Scarry, but an apostrophe is not needed in every word that ends with an “s.” It might be beneficial to check your posts for grammar before publishing – this is getting ridiculous and unprofessional.

    Add to that the seeming redirection away from being a hard hitting, detailed news site that is publishing the important things we aren’t hearing about elsewhere. Now, the drive seems to be to turn The Blaze into a glorified Twitter, where the goal is to post as many “articles” as possible, each containing 160 words or less.

    This is really quite sad, as The Blaze was groundbreaking when it started and I was a daily reader. It seems to have lost quite a bit of steam, and the quality has gone downhill rapidly.

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    • Raymond Koepsell
      Posted on October 12, 2012 at 1:29pm

      Hi Bulletproof, “Here’s” is not a grammatical error. The Elements of Style is an excellent reference tool for writers; check it out

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    • Raymond Koepsell
      Posted on October 12, 2012 at 1:31pm

      Bulletproof, “Here’s” is not misspelled. Why don’t you check out The Elements of Style by Strunk & White; it’s a great resource for frequent writers.

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    • BuckNekked
      Posted on October 12, 2012 at 1:39pm

      Raymond, scroll up and look at the headline again. Notice PAPER’S?

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    • RWCT
      Posted on October 12, 2012 at 2:29pm

      To the commentts BELOW critcizing you. I know you were referring to paer’s conataining it, NOT here’s which is short for hear is. For those who were quick to criticize, they owe you an apology.

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    • The Bulletproof Patriot
      Posted on October 12, 2012 at 2:31pm

      @Raymond:

      Yes, you are of course correct. I was not commenting on the “here’s” in the headline, “Hereβ€˜s what the national paper’s say…”

      I was commenting on the “paper’s,” which I thought was quite obvious.

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  • RudolphGEM
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 12:56pm

    Moderator should not have been allowed to moderate as She is clearly into O ‘s camp. 2 Biden a Clown

    If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs, and there is no rest. β€”Proverbs 29:9

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  • Restore the Republic
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 12:55pm

    Everyone already knew that Biden is a gaffe prone liar who makes things up as he goes along. His foot is in his mouth so often, that he has a whopping case of athletes tongue…

    but now we also know that despite his feigned joviality, deep down, he’s a complete condescending jerk and insufferable bore without a shred of class or respect. We all suspected this, but last night, Joe gave us proof positive.

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  • truthmatters2me
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 12:51pm

    Biden came off like a laughing hyena! and Shakespeare would have said about Biden,”Me thinks though dost protest too much!” Ryan looked and sounded like a college boy next to him but what he said was great. He was polite to his ‘elder statesmen’ who has nothing left but his smile. I am proud of Ryan.

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  • Soul Leister
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 11:33am

    Whenever democrat accuse republicans of something its becasue the democrats are actaully doing it. Case in point: wanting to paint Romney as not caring about 47% of the nation, while the democrats ignored the wishes of tht majrority of the nation when they pushed healthcare through the house and senate… its still not popular with THE MAJORITY of Americans… and democrats want to paint Romney as unreasonable???

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  • Soul Leister
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 11:22am

    Republican candidate for Vice President was on stage last night with someone’s drunk uncle and his elderly niece in tow (media groupie of the evening… who llikely has heard about the term unbiased but doesn’t really practice it much).

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    • Soul Leister
      Posted on October 12, 2012 at 11:27am

      Catholics are surely confused after watching these two fellow Catholics: one was a theatrcial boob (Biden) and the other carried on assuming everyone was looking at his eyes (and hearing him speak) instead of looking at the boob (Biden).

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  • Dealmein77
    Posted on October 12, 2012 at 10:52am

    Last night watching this debate I had felt that Ryan lost; not because of content but because he let himself get pushed around and many statements of Biden’s went absolutely unchallenged. Biden interrupted often but so did the moderator. I do not recall her once doing that to Biden. I basically felt that the American people were not going to see that this debate was a contest between a good and intelligent man and on the other side, a petulant child. I was worried that the wonderful character of Ryan would be washed out by these childish tactics of Biden. Reading the reviews this morning and watching some people debate the performances I am happy to say that my faith in the American people has been restored quite a bit. The Libs call it a victory but of course they would! Those tactics are the same as the occupy group’s vandalism, black panther’s thuggish intimidation, PETA throwing red paint, unions threats and violence or french revolutionaries putting heads on pikes. They are liberal and so is their sense of morality. They are driven by emotion and lead by it too. Reason and rationale go out the window when you decide everything on a case-by-case basis where stances are only determined with self-serving motives. Conservatives alternatively believe deeply in what is reasonable, logical and true and may be emotional about that but are lead by the beliefs and driven by a passion born of clarity. Ryan and Biden exemplified Conservatism and Liberalism!

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