That weird meetup between former NBA player Dennis Rodman and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un was facilitated by HBO and Vice magazine, according to the New York Times.

Co-founder of Vice Shane Smith explained the purpose of sending Rodman, who looks like a sickly Mr. Potato Head, to the reclusive state…

While aware that past visits by American celebrities have become propaganda material for North Korean officials, Mr. Smith said he was a “firm believer in dialogue.” He was also aware, he said, that “the last 50 years of diplomacy between North Korea and the U.S. has failed.” But then he quickly added: “We’re not trying to save the world. We’re not politicians. We’re trying to show people something that they won’t see anywhere else.”