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Jan. 9, 2013 9:08am

Brian Lilley is host of Byline on Canada's Sun News Network.

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According to The Washington Post, the Obama administration is considering a “national database” of all firearms in the United States to “track the movement and sale of weapons.” If such a database comes to fruition the database will lead to confiscation.

Last year Canada ended its national long gun registry, a national database of every rifle and shotgun in the country that was supposed to help police track the movement of and sale of weapons. When it was introduced twenty years ago critics said the registration of firearms would eventually lead to confiscation, a criticism dismissed as ridiculous, yet that’s what happened and more right up until its dismantling.

As recently as last winter law abiding gun owners who had complied with the registry were having their rifles confiscated. In late 2011 hundreds if not thousands of people who had legally purchased the Armi Jager AP80, a .22 calibre variant of the AK47, were informed that their rifles had been deemed illegal and must be surrendered .

“You are required by law to return your firearm registration certificates, without delay, either by mail to the address shown in the top left corner of this page or in person to a peace officer or firearms officers. You have 30 days to deliver your firearms to a peace officer, firearms officer of Chief Firearms Officer or to otherwise lawfully dispose of them,” read the letter sent by the Canadian Firearms Centre.

The reason for the need to surrender what had been legal firearms was simply cosmetic, the AP 80 looked too similar to the AK47. There were no interchangeable parts between the two rifles, the rifles used vastly different ammunition, had vastly different uses but they looked the same.

What was more worrisome was that the decision to reclassify what for years had been a legal rifle was made by a bureaucrat not by elected officials. There was no debate, no vote just a decision by a bureaucrat who felt the AP80, legally owned for decades, was too dangerous to be privately owned by Canadians.

Of course confiscation of firearms could just be the start, confiscation of homes and cars could also come to the USA.

Former Marine Joshua Boston recently wrote a scathing response to Senator Diane Feinstein’s gun control proposals saying that he would not register his guns. That could cost him everything.

Bruce Montague, a gunsmith from Dryden, Ontario faces the possibility of having his home seized for failure to register his firearms. Montague’s decision not to register was purely political, he wanted to challenge the constitutionality of the gun registry. When his constitutional challenge failed and Montague was convicted the government of Ontario moved to seize his home under its proceeds of crime legislation. They were treating a paperwork criminal as if he were a drug lord, the kind of person the law was intended to prosecute.

If the United States follows Canada’s lead in registering all guns into a national database then the confiscation of rifles and shotguns won’t be far behind.

Brian Lilley is the host of Byline on Sun News Network

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Comments (51)

ECOMCON
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 3:40pm
Check this out. In Canada there’s even more ludicrous laws involving guns. One being that the gun must be locked up in a gun safe in one part of your house, as well as the ammunition for the gun being locked up in another section of the house. Kinda like, you ask the home invader to excuse you while you go and unlock the gun and go to another section of your house to unlock your ammo. if the home invaded is very kind and understanding, he’ll wait for you to lock and load and come back to shoot his sorry ass.

Currently there’s one victim of government stupidity in Canada still undergoing massive amounts of legal hassles. His house was being fire bombed with molotov cocktails, his dogs were being slaughtered, etc, by a gang of thugs. All this was actually captured on closed circuit TV. The home owner finally was able to fire one round into the ground and two more into his trees in order to scare off the attackers. The poor man was then charged under the various laws regarding brandishing firearm, unsafe use of a firearm, and discharge of a firearm, and a few other choice laws. he was finally able to prove he was under direct fear for his life, and he was found innocent,. That took over two years in court and God knows how much money of his went up in smoke. But he’s now being charged with unlawful storage of a weapon and unlawful storage of ammunition. Why? Because the prosecutors are speculating (which is enough in Canada) that he armed and fired in too of a short a tim

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r3dbull4dd1kt
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 8:57am
to the naysayers posting “it’s over…” remember that with a complacent attitude like that, Obama got 4 more years in office, with that attitude makes me think you are trying to justify being too cowardly to stand behind your DUTY as an American Male to defend Liberty from enemies, foreign or domestic…

MILITIA is ALL able-bodied men between 18 and 55 years old…when Tyranny knocks, it is your duty to defend the Constitution of the US without question, without hesitation, without recourse…if you wont do it, then get out of my country–PERIOD

These people aren’t playing a game; They are building an Empire and lazy, soft-hearted, naive people unwilling to do whats needed are just in the way–it was proven in November!

If Obama signs that Executive Order that is a direct violation of the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution, there should be 100,000+ Militia Men knocking on the White House door ready to begin a trial for Treason…simple as that

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- karene999
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:36am
  It is not just men, there will be plenty of women lined up beside you in this fight.
  
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VoteJoel
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:26am
Hitler did that before he came for the Jews. We will fight back!

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- LB
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:20am
  and BO will come for the infidels
  
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djay110
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:22pm
So tell me this I see allot of us saying I will not comply! What good will a gun be after they make it illegal to own if your seen with it you go to jail ? If they come for them and you stand up how many neighbors will stand with you when they kill you and take your guns your neighbors will run to turn theirs in! can we get organized enough to make a difference ?????

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- M24
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:25am
  You Don’t Know My Neighbours
  
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- Eternal
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:11am
  It’s the we start to kill them and their families. We are not kidding.
  
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- Think_4_yourself
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:42am
  DJay….that is exactly what will happen. I’ll even predict that the government will accomplish this without firing a shot. When the IRS freezes your bank account how easy is it to operate? When the power company turns off your electric (per government orders), no way to communicate. They will drop the legal hammer on you, crush you. Your average citizen will see the “example” the government made of you and turn in their guns. The machine is too big. We have already lost, we just have not realized it yet. The media will paint you as a right wing gun nut maniac for not complying. It’s over folks, games over. As for me? Moving out of harms way. Anyone wanna buy my arsonal? I won’t need 99% of them on an island.
  
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- seanscythe
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 9:47am
  This is how it will play out, Man held up in his home he will be labeled a “Gun Nut” “Prepper” “Survivalist” ect and that he was hording mass ammo and guns. Neighbors that don’t even know him will tell the news that he was secluded and weird. He will be killed or arrested and forced to plea insanity so as to make others afraid to own bulk ammo and weapons.
  
  1984 to where you are made to look insane and crazy or sick in the head. You could be perfectly sane and well within your legal rights but that’s not how the news will portray you.
  
  What really happened will be that you were seen outside your home with your AR-15 by a anti-gun person driving by and he/she reports that you are waving your gun around at children. The police show up with guns drawn and one thing leads to another. Your arrested and guns/ammo are taken as “evidence” never to be returned. The news gets involved and post your name and address and how many guns and how much ammo you have all over the tv. You are demonized and made into a tea party nut job.
  
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GuruMeditation
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 9:46pm
Duh!

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jbcheesehead
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:55pm
Perhaps it’s now time to swap your weapon with another weapon owner, and then report both as lost.

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MY WASR10 SAYS IM FREE
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:50pm
PVC pipe, endcaps, cosmline, desicant, and plumbers glue. That’s all I have to say folks.

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geminimoon
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:30pm
What an utter crock! The failed government can only lie, cheat and steal so much from it’s citizens, but to even contemplate doing something of this nature is ludicrous!

The day a person walks onto my property telling me I must surrender my guns will be the day the local coroner starts working some serious overtime!!!

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Couyon64
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:36pm
Never.

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merchantsailor
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:25pm
Damn…. Somebody came right in my house and stole my guns!!

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- 502_eagle
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:47pm
  I think Aliens are stealing them. Mine disappeared right off my wall.
  
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- burnteye86
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 3:54am
  I sold mine outside of a gun show. Didn’t get the guys name but he was between 5’3″ and 6’8″ about 135 lbs to 340 lbs. Couldn’t make out the color of **** as he was wearing a cap . Eyes neither, wearing sun glasses. Yepper, sold every one of em.
  
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The Third Archon
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:24pm
“They were treating a paperwork criminal as if he were a drug lord, the kind of person the law was intended to prosecute.”
Maybe you shouldn’t have passed those fascist laws in your reactionary prohibitionist zeal to waste public resources fighting an futile war against chemical compounds then, eh? Really it’s not ALL your fault–it’s America’s, or I should say Nixon and Reagan mostly, for their championing this absurd and reactionary “war on drugs” (even George W. Bush’s “war on terror” was more justifiable–although of course, like the “war on drugs” it was ALSO a convenient excuse to push fascist laws). And they pressured/encouraged other American states (for the idiots in the audience, by “American states” in this context, I mean other nationstates in the Americas), but ESPECIALLY Mexico and Canada, to jump on board with the “war on drugs.” So you can’t be ENTIRELY blamed for a hysterically motivated mess OUR more demonic Presidents started.

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The Third Archon
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:13pm
“Last year Canada ended its national long gun registry, a national database of every rifle and shotgun in the country that was supposed to help police track the movement of and sale of weapons. When it was introduced twenty years ago critics said the registration of firearms would eventually lead to confiscation, a criticism dismissed as ridiculous, yet that’s what happened and more right up until its dismantling.”
I didn’t know private gun ownership was even LEGAL in Canada…

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- AlaskaBob
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 9:19pm
  Rifle and shotguns … hunting stuff… are legal, but boy do they get really spooked with handguns at the government level. They are truly part of the Commonwealth and attempt to maintain order as per the United Kingdom…. They banned “assault rifles” after a guy selectively murdered young women at a college… what is not commonly noted is the gunman had the men in the classroom leave… they left and NONE of them tried to prevent the murder as they passed by the gunman out of the classroom. This is not a case of guns causing a terrible crime, but an efeminate culture that permits if not promotes a helpless/hapless set of societal rules. The sheeple of Canada have followed the path of worthlessness promoted by the Left.
  
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- steelpanther
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 9:42pm
  I remember in the commentry, some small part of the Robocop film was being shot in Canada, I actually think it was the parking garage sence where they shoot Robo all to hell. Guess the officals they where dealing with freaked out over the concept of a fake gun being shot.(in the ’80′s even)
  
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Wolf73b
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:00pm
I will not comply.

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- Magyar
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:39pm
  I’m with you!
  
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- Wolf73b
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:48pm
  Then re-post it. That needs to be the rallying cry: I will not comply!
  
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- FliegendeHirsch
  Posted on March 23, 2013 at 5:02pm
  Old king Leonidas replied to the Persians “MOLON LABE”—- “Come, Take” (come & git ‘em). The Persian army fought 300 Spartans for three days in response. Persians bleed a lot.
  
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TheHalfrican
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 6:08pm
He should not try coming to Oklahoma to do this, we still honor the 10th amendment and it will not work out very well for his team.

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Coyote1953
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 5:59pm
The problem is, if law-abiding citizens turn in their guns, only non-law-abiding citizens will have guns.

What the hell is wrong with liberals?

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- Frederick_Douglass_Republican
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 6:23pm
  Modern liberalism is a mental disorder. Logic is not comprehended by them at all. There is no tolerance or diversity in modern liberalism. Either you agree like a bobble head doll on in the back window on a bumpy road or you are labeled a HATER, a RACIST, and (worse offense of all for a libloon) MEAN!
  And don’t forget it! Ha ha ha *
  
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- SGT Rock
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 2:47am
  Liberals have been undermined and tricked by a communist mindset, that is what is wrong with them.
  
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zoro51
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 5:44pm
IMPEACH OBAMA he3s ANTI GUN ANTI AMERICAN ANTI US CONSTITUTION ANTI AMERICAN OIL COAL ANTI FREEDOMS.. but PRO SOCIALIZM this IS not a dictator but a president.. HE MUST RERALIZE THIS… IMPEACH N THROW OUT OBAMA NOW save america form the RAPIST of our freedoms

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jerryod1627
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 5:29pm
It’s only a matter of time. We had our last free election in 2010. 2012 was fixed through corruption and deception and the election of 2014 has already been decided by obama et al, The dems will take back both houses and rule us colmpletely. A very short time after that the constitution will be shredded and obama will proclaim himself our ruler as his muslim brother did in Egypt. I believe that more than half the American people will roll over, turn in their weapons and surrender. The remainder who resist will be slaughtered!

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- Uechi
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:15pm
  And exactly why will the 50% that resist be be killed? We have been in Iraq and Afghanistan for over 10 years. Have we won?. Did we win in Vietnam? The reality is that confiscation will lead to a war they can’t win even if it takes a century they will lose.
  
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Swalker
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 5:29pm
People keep speaking as if the 2ed amendment were a right, it is not a right nor are any other of the first ten amendments. They are a declaration that the Federal and State government can NOT infringe nor restrict any of our liberty’s declared in these ten amendments. It is a declaration that the People hold these to themselves and will never relinquish them to the Government, That is not negotiable. It is fact and that is why the Government wants to restrict them. Once we hand over any part of them we loose our ability to keep them to ourselves.

Never give an inch on these Liberties that the Government was notified they have no rule or control of.

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Guitar Master
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 5:25pm
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If they could jam Obamacare through the Congress and then through the Supreme Court a gun ban with registration will be an absolute cinch. This won’t play out very well in the end. Evil incarnate.

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BlasberryStrat
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 5:14pm
While I am by no means “glad” I had a recent heart attack and open heart surgery, it did result in my having to sell off most that I own because of no health insurance and prescriptions not being cheap for a heart patient. Kinda funny how a Pharmacy can sell ADD, Psycho, and pain meds under a $4.00 prescription plan, but pills to keep your heart going….”forget about it”. The weird part is all I did was mention to one Body Shop that I had my boat and guns for sale, and had people knocking on my door that night. It took over two weeks to sell the boat, but about 5 hours and all my guns & ammo was gone. ALL FOR MY ASKING PRICE. I sure as heck wasn’t going to ask for names and addresses when a guy was standing in front of me with a wad of $20′s. But I am glad they’re gone simply because I’m so tired of trying to fight for freedoms that were taken away the first pull of the CT trigger. I do hand it to the Libs though. They certainly paid off a lot of people to kill citizens, then finally figured out that 5 year old’s was the “winning case”.

I’m just glad to be out of it and now don’t have any “bad guns” for neighbors (and father) to brow beat me over. The only crap part is that the money I got will only get my prescriptions until the end of March, then it’s on to selling all my guitars I guess. Love that Obamacare when I’m a White Male = NO help or coverage. If I would have been a “single mother”, I might still have my guns = Free Gov. ride.

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- Kumo
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:30am
  It is frustrating to say the least that a system that was designed to help folks in your predicament has been abused for so long by able bodied individuals, that when folks really need the help it is not available to them. I would not depend on the Government for anything anymore.
  
  Are you able to contact your church or perhaps a charity for assistance?
  
  It is really unfortunate that this happened to you brother and I hope and will pray that you are able to regain your health quickly, but perhaps this is a sign that might lead you on a new path to do great things.
  
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jessieH
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 4:54pm
Hide what you can, lock and load what you have.

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Semper4everSemper
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 1:45pm
Remember once guns are outlawed, only police, military, criminals and Hollywood bad movie actors and their supporting elitist body gurards will have guns.

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IndyGuy
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:58am
This is where America is headed if Americans don’t refuse to register weapons…Confiscation is the goal…

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mooseberryinn
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:50am
This sort of registration was in force in the earlier days of Stalin’s Russia. The important thing to remember is it does nothing to prevent criminal activity.

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jeffersonian1776
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:41am
Remember that when the leftist loons try to throw the old “what don’t you understand about ‘well-regulated’” at you, that the term ‘well-regulated’ meant during the latter 18th century–’well-trained.’ In fact, the 2nd Amendment in the U.S. Constitution would be hypocritical if it was saying that guns should be well-regulated by the state and then right in the same sentence saying that it is to “not be infringed.” When the Anti-Federalists like George Mason and Thomas Jefferson wanted all Natural Rights to be in writing–hence the Bill of Rights–they wanted the 2nd Amendment’s right to keep and bear arms to be protected in the Constitution and used the term “well-regulated” (i.e., “well-trained”) as something to not be infringed by gov’t. In other words, they didn’t want the gov’t to be able to take one’s guns away on puny charges like, you’re not smart enough, or well-trained enough, or safe enough person to own said arms. They can’t take them on the grounds that you aren’t responsible enough of a person to own the gun, or that you have not gone through the proper training (or regulating of) on gun safety.
Otherwise, why would they say at the same time the govt can regulate firearms as well as the govt cannot infringe on anyone’s right to own a firearm. Just do your research of several, and I mean several, usages of “well-regulated” during these times, you’ll find it has nothing at all to do with today’s definition of gov’t regulation.

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- Former11BRAVO
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:47am
  “Well regulated” also means “in common use”. In other words, they intended type, style and caliber to be the same as those in use by the Continental Army. Thus, modern arms are ABSOLUTELY the type specifically protected under the 2A – and the left damn-well knows it.
  
  And it drives them crazy – literally. Listen to the way they scream about killing gun-owners and NRA members. They, themselves, are the ones who are completely unhinged and with no business owning firearms.
  
  Of course, _we_ all know (modern) Liberalism is a mental disorder. Highly unstable, they display all the symptoms of severe narcisism and extreme paranoia; of the type likely to lead to violence. Liberals are dangers to themselves and those around them. Of that, there can be no doubt. God knows! They are certainly a very real/imminent danger to we, freedom-loving, self-reliant, patriotic American citizens.
  
  Anyone who believes otherwise is delusional.
  
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- jeffersonian1776
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 2:17pm
  @Former11Bravo, thanks for your comment. Liberals are nothing more than communists who will exploit anything, and that means the exploitation of the Sandy Hook killings of children, to punish their political enemies. It is hard to believe that someone can despise a free society that much as to stoop to such lows.
  Always, always, always remember my friend that Socialism is for the people, NOT the Socialist. Which is exactly today why we what you call “Champagne Socialists”–a term I heard some economist use one time that I thought very befitting.
  
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- Wolf
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 3:57pm
  Whenever I am confronted by a leftist loonie telling me my guns should be taken away, I just tell them to go ahead and try right now. If they want to put their money where their mouth is, why should they wait?
  
  No takers so far, which just goes to show they’re all ******* and need someone else to do the dirty work- and I remind them of that as well.
  
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- AzThunder
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 9:43pm
  @Wolf
  
  Good response !
  
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