‘I Am American’: Muslims, Christians & Jews Unite to Counter Koran-Burning Pastor’s Visit to Dearborn
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Via WJBK:
Muslims, Christians and Jews — all faiths calling out for people to stand up and do something about Pastor Terry Jones’ visit on Friday. Jones is planning an appearance in front of the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn.
Several Christians and Muslims are coming together and planning peaceful demonstrations leading up to the event. They’re calling theirs “I Am American”.
“There has been a man who has planned a trip to Dearborn to harm and hurt our relationship that we have here in this city and this region with Muslims,” said Rev. Charles Williams II with Historic King Solomon Baptist Church.
“He burns the Koran. Indeed it is an insult against Christianity, against Jesus because the Koran mentions Jesus for more than 124 times,” said Imam Sayed Hassam Al-Qazwini.
Security will be tight on Friday in and around the Islamic center. Counter protests against Pastor Jones include an Episcopalian church holding a demonstration against “Islam-a-phobia”, as they call it. Their main messenger, they believe, is Pastor Jones himself.
“It’s un-American for Pastor Jones to provoke and to try to polarize our brothers and sisters as less than American,” Rowe said.




















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A Walk in Eden
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:18pmWATCH THIS YOU TUBE VIDEO Shariamerica: Islam, Obama, and the Establishment Clause ….
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErzxOz3Dzv8
vennoye
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:53pmGood Video!!
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 7:40amThank you! This should be “required viewing” from high school up beginning today, NOW!
GOD BLESS AND PROTECT ISRAEL AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and all HIS kids every where.
Report Post »loadingmyclips
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:17pmRight or wrong he isn’t afraid to take it to their house. I admire him for his stones!! Show the stinking B*stards how we feel. The rest are cowards hiding behind their keyboards.
Report Post »loadingmyclips
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 3:54pmAnybody want to go?? Let me know I know the way to detroit.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:16pmTo those who want Judaism expelled~~~ ain’t gonna happen!
Number one, because the JEWS are GOD’s chosen people, and ISRAEL, their country is GOD’s country.
Number two, because the REAL AMERICANS AND CHRISTIANS support ISRAEL and the JEWS both here and there.
Number three, because GOD HIMSELF is in charge and you dare not touch HIS kids, ever.
Personally, I think it would be a good thing if all muslimes went back to the middle east from all over the world and left the rest of us alone. But, since you serve satan, and this is the battle, the spiritual battle for “all the marbles”, you won’t use your own heads, but will continue to be brain and soul dead puppets of your sick, twisted leaders. That’s sad.
GOD has give the muslimes so many opportunities to see other cultures and to grow and to mature and to see how others of different faiths CAN live together and CAN and DO love one another. The muslimes continue to spit in GOD’s face. I guess the agnostics and atheists do, too. And, that’s sad.
Time is running out, folks. You need to decide WHOM it is you serve. You cannot serve GOD and mammon. ONE of the other…. JEHOVAH GOD or satan. There is no in between.
Report Post »A Walk in Eden
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:16pmWATCH THIS YOU TUBE video…….. (12:10 ) Shariamerica: Islam, Obama, and the Establishment Clause http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErzxOz3Dzv8
Report Post »Fight for America
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:59pmI’m not thrilled with his actions, however, surely there are enough violent protest people to be dealt with first before getting to this guy. You know, the ones yelling racial slurs, killing their own daughters, the anarchists, the New Black Panthers, the union thugs, etc…….
Report Post »Christoff
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:49pmWhy does the West embrace Islam? It is not because Islam is wanted it is because Christianity is not.
Report Post »They would rather have Barabbas then Jesus. Anything is better then God ruling over them. Even if Barabbas kills them.
THE HATRED FOR CHRIST AND CHRISTIANITY IS AMAZING and has always been.
The bottom line is men do not want the God of the Bible and His Son Jesus Christ. Until America repents and turns back to “Biblical” Christianity (NOT CATHOLIC OR MORMON) soon Judgement is coming.
Cheers!
“If me will not be ruled by God they will be governed by tyrants” W.Penn
independentvoteril
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:34pmIt seems that the Pastor is getting what he wants most FACE TIME.. up till than he was an UNKNOWN but the MEDIA has made him a STAR be it a shining star or not he’s still a STAR.. he has become IMPORTANT in his own mind.. and apparently in the mind of others who aren’t just IGNORING him.. He is an AMERICAN and has the right to do what he’s doing.. right or wrong.. by protesting against him which is their right your just bring his EGO what it requires.. IGNORE.. IGNORE.. IGNORE.. Personally I will stand up for the Koran when the CHRISTIANS in the EAST have the right to practice their religion without being killed for doing so..
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:53pmWhich pastor, or both?
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:32pmFree speech for all:
Report Post »Crazy Koran burning nut job pastors and all those who disagree with him.
MODEL82A1
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:31pmThis current cycle of conflict will ONLY end when Islam is eradicated. I know many of you can’t handle that degree of honesty. Too bad.
Report Post »Atlappraiser
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:45pmUnfortunately, I think it will get to a boiling point where the Middle East and millions of Muslims will the ultimate price for the Koran’s teachings. If they continue to push buttons around the world by trying to impose their beliefs and not tolerate others, it will not end nicely for them.
Report Post »Laureen1
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:46pmNeed to spread that honesty before it’s too late!
Report Post »Non-sequitur
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:50pm“This current cycle of conflict will ONLY end when Islam is eradicated. I know many of you can’t handle that degree of honesty. Too bad.”
This current cycle of conflict will ONLY end when Judaism is eradicated. I know many of you can’t handle that degree of honesty. Too bad.
Nice litmus test: If you talk about a religion, swap out the name of the religion for “Judaism”. If you sound like Hitler, you’re doing something wrong.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:54pmNON-INTELLIGENCE, spoken like a true mush-brained Lefty. Your answer is Incorrect. Fail.
Report Post »Atlappraiser
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:12pm@non-seq
Report Post »You obviously hate those peaceful Jewish folk, don’t you. I don’t like to discuss religion with friends, but the only time I‘ve had conflict was with two Muslim friends that truly didn’t accept other religions points of view. Just sayin.
kitchenjoe
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:14pmNon-sequitur, One difference, the God above all gods, has said that He will watch over His people, the Jewish people, and He will protect them, they are His chosen people. Those who mess with them, mess with Almighty God.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:04amYou are delusional. Islam is a great world religion with roughly the same standing as Christianity or Buddhism. Its transformation from within, however distant that goal may seem, is far more likely than its complete eradication. Stop kidding yourself.
Report Post »geonj
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:27pmthe koran needs burning for it’s call to kill al infidels.
KORAN commands to kill infidels:
Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. – Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. – Sura 2:161
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. – 2:191
Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah’s religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God’s entirely. – Sura 2:193 and 8:39
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. – 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.
….. martyrs…. Enter heaven – Surah 3:140-43
If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. – 3:157-8
You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. – Surah 3:169-71
Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. – Surah 4:74
Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. – 4:76
But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. – 4:89
Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. – 5:14
O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. – 5:54
Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah’s religion reigns supreme – 8:39
O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. – 8:65
It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. – 8:67
Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. – 9:2-3
When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. – 9:5
Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. – 9:28
Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. – 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.
Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. – 9:41
O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey’s end. – 9:73
Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. – 9:111
Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers….
As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. – 10:4-15
Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. – 33:60
Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. – 41:14
When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. – 47:4
(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.
Those who are slain in the way of Allah – he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. – 47:5
Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. – 48:25
Muhammad is Allah’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. – 48:29
Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. – 66:9
The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. – 98:51
Report Post »GONESURFING
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:42pmBurn it.
Report Post »thomas242007
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:27pmRemains of Christian martyrs after the Muslims bombing Church-Screams for relatives-Alexandria
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9F0iImbIw8&feature=related
Atlappraiser
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:26pmThis sounds like the pastors attempt to be a martyr. I think he’s counting on some radical Muslim to go off the deepend and try to harm/kill him, which would be a nail in the coffin for the so-called peaceful religion.
Report Post »skippy6
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:25pmI say let Jones talk, I want to hear what he has to say even if it is Idiotic… This is what is great about this Country. Everything seems like it’s backwards inside out and upside down!!!
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:21pmThis is yet another upsetting event. I’m with those that say the pastor had every right to burn the Koran if it is his property (which it was), didn’t violate any laws (he didn’t). Now I think it was “unwise”, but his right & this has been purposefully blown out of proportion to get Christians to be united with Muslims in this condemnation, which is not good – for many, it’s to further the Islamic goals in this country (which is to take it over). Just as maybe pastor Jones was unwise in doing what he did, this Rev. Williams is doing the same thing and is destructive, not constructive like he thinks. Reminds me of that other weird Baptist church that goes to funerals to protest the ones for our troops. They think they’re in the right too – and they do have those rights to protest peacefully. But another very “unwise” deal. What about Bibles that are burned all over the world and also in this nation? You hear nothing & don’t expect to hear any complaints – and everyone knows the Christians won’t retaliate or cause trouble. Not so with Muslims. And has anyone checked out the crimes & problems Dearborn (the Muslim capital of the U.S.) is having with them? Also reminds me of the big fuss re a mosque at ground zero. Great site for all Americans to check: http://www.actforamerica.com
Report Post »eat-more-bacon-USA
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:19pmI’m not sure I understand the connection between the religions of Christianity and Judaism and the terrorist-organization of islam. Also, why would anyone believe that it is “un-American” to oppose, speak out against and and be vigilant of our muslim-enemies?
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:34pmAbraham, all three stem from Abraham.
Report Post »Non-sequitur
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:47pmAlso, all of them worship the same God and have largely the same rules. They all share the old Testament.
Report Post »kitchenjoe
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:07pmNon-sequitur, they do not worship God, they worship Allah and there is more of a difference than the name. The Jewish people and Christians worship the same God, but not the Muslims. They may claim it is similar or even the same, but the descriptions and characteristics are different.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:27pmPlease…….
Report Post »It’s not about whom worships what God. It’s about who wants to kill non-believers.
Try to stay focused!
calebgs83
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:19pmTell me muslims and sympathizers, when was the last time people were randomly beheaded and murdered in an act of rage because their holy book had been desecrated! The fact is, the Koran is the work of a pedophile and killer…that is why it spreads evil!
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:34pmSame can be said of the Book of Mormon.
Report Post »Non-sequitur
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:54pmIf you believe that the bible was dictated by god, the same can be said about the bible. God raped 14 year old Mary and killed thousands just to prove a point.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:44pmENCINOM I will give you this…..facts don’t get in your way
Report Post »weak at best
Hungry_i
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:58pmNon-sequitur, they do not worship God, they worship Allah and there is more of a difference than the name. The Jewish people and Christians worship the same God, but not the Muslims. They may claim it is similar or even the same, but the descriptions and characteristics are different.
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Jews do not accept Christ for the same reason Christians do not accept Muhammad.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 2:58amHungry_i: “Jews do not accept Christ for the same reason Christians do not accept Muhammad.”
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Absolutely not. Jews reject Jesus’ claim that He is the Son of God. Muhammad didn’t even declare himself to be divine. You want to make Jesus and Muhammad equal. That ruse is as old as the garden of Eden.
Smug
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 6:34amAnn Barnhardt Youtube MUST SEE!!!!!
Report Post »MSSMUG
encinom
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 11:03amRepubliCorp
Report Post »Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:44pm
ENCINOM I will give you this…..facts don’t get in your way
weak at best
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Lets see Joe Smith had several wives, including some as young as 14. He was the ring leader of a cult, that attempted a political assination against the Governor of Missouri. Yeah, the critism against Islam can easily be used against the Mormons.
mrsmileyface
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:19pmLast time I checked the Constitution you were free to go anywhere and the first amendment right allows this man to burn whatever he wants.
Report Post »West/Paul/Cain 2012
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:18pmI just burned my Koran, I guess you can count me out!!!
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:17pmYeah and just what does the koran say about jesus 124 times ?
Report Post »Welcome Black Carter
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:19pmAccording to muslims Jesus will cut off the heads of those who will not “submit” to islam…
Report Post »At least they mention Jesus.
May I also mention Jesus, “king of the Jews” is a muslim according to islam.
vennoye
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:25pmThat he is a prophet and he is NOT the son of God! That he did NOT die on the cross…Mohammad spirited him away to heaven and put someone else in his place on the cross! That is what it says about Jesus among other things. They have a story in the Koran that we do not have in the Bible…that he made a bird out of clay, and gave it life and it flew away. Need to ask them if anyone other than God can create life!!!
Report Post »loadingmyclips
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:31pmCut off their heads!?!?! That doesn’t sound like the Jesus I know. Maybe that is just BS to justify their actions.
Report Post »Hungry_i
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:35pmAmong other things, that He was born miraculously to the Virgin Mary, that He was a Messenger of God, that He was the Seal of the Israel prophets, that He was given the ability to perform miracles and was Divinely chosen to spread God’s message.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 2:32amHungry_i: “Among other things, that He was born miraculously to the Virgin Mary”
Not begotten, but created, like Adam.
==> “that He was a Messenger of God,”
No, not an uppercase Messenger, not even a lowercase messenger. A prophet. Only Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah — which is a good thing. Keep Jesus out of that relationship.
==> “that He was the Seal of the Israel prophets”
Yeah, as in “shut up, Jesus.” You are no longer relevant — and, by extension, neither are Jews or Christians.
==> “that He was given the ability to perform miracles and was Divinely chosen to spread God’s message.”
Uh-huh, but unfortunately, Jesus was filled with pride and made himself to be like God (wasn’t that what the DEVIL did too??), and LIED (which according to the Bible would make Him a FALSE prophet), by declaring He was the Son of God and therefore equal to God.
So, and here comes the best part, Muhammad, the pedophile and inventor of jihad, was sent to undo Jesus’ lie and bring people back to Allah. It makes a lot of sense that Allah would send Muhammad. They are one of a kind.
Report Post »martyw
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:14pmlets ask them MUSLIMS where they were when the holy bible was being burned in pakastain, or in egypt….. i dont agree with degrading anyones religion… but dont come and act buddy buddy when its your koran being burned
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:12pmThis was a ad with fat Albert …Hey..Hey …Hey ….For a new Cosby kid movie ..Right….
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:09pmCan’t we all just get along, and behead the none believers?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:21pmAWWW the “religion” of peace … yes.
Report Post »thermonator
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:50pmYep!
Report Post »Ironic that they are protesting the burning of a book, but not the killing of innocent people, marriage rape or “honor” killings.
Just more political correct nonsense.
BetterDays
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:50pmNo, and NO.
Report Post »avenger
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 3:21pmyou got it ! http://thereligionofpeace.com too many useful American fools out there…
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:08pmThey’re calling theirs “I Am American”.
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So they’ll be burning the American flag , right ?
Smug
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 4:44amI agree, don’t know if anyone here has told you about the Youtube videos of Ann Barnhardt this individual is amazing, Please, please go visit her website.
Report Post »miles from nowhere
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:07pmThe Pastor is a free man in America, he can go where he pleases
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:23pmThis is what they’re saying : “It’s a violation of Christianity. It’s a violation of Judaism. It’s a violation of Hindu. It’s a violation of every major faith in the nation and in the world.”
I only have one question for them ” is beheading a human being a violation or not ? “
Report Post »jeffyfreezone
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:42pmHe may be a whack job but THIS IS STILL A FREE COUNTRY!
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 8:32amI‘m sorry I just don’t see why people are calling him a whack job. When is it wrong for someone to expose evil? This man has done a great service by putting Islam in the spotlight in our country and the evil through their hate, violence, and intimidation they impose on anyone who disagrees.
Report Post »I and others I know support you Terry Jones!
TheGreyPiper
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:06pm“It’s un-American for Pastor Jones to provoke and to try to polarize our brothers and sisters as less than American,” Rowe said.
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Tell me, Mr Rowe, what do you think of the Tea Party?
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:17pm“It’s un-American for Pastor Jones to provoke and to try to polarize our brothers and sisters as less than American,” Rowe said.
Report Post »—————–
Its un-American to silence Pastor Jones.
He can provoke you , all he wants,
you should have the self-control , discipline and will- power to NOT be un-American yourselves.
Take responsibility for your own hatred towards another human being
CatB
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:21pmWhat about blowing up buildings .. and people is that okay?
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:24pmThis idiot “pastor” has the right to act like an idiot. As much as I dislike his actions he has to be allowed to do it. The only speech that really needs protection is that speech that offends others.
Report Post »GONESURFING
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:30pmBurn baby burn. Another question is how Christians and people of other faiths are treated in Islamist countries, and how do Muslims react to criticism
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:36pm“I am a fighter for social justice. I want to empower young people across the world
Report Post »to take a stand regarding social justice, economic and political issues that affect their lives.
Rev. Charles E. Williams, II, a native Detroiter, is the founder and president of the Mary Church Terrell Council for Community Empowerment and the president of Detroit – National Action Network. This preacher’s kid learned early on how to be active in his community from his father, the Rev Charles E. Williams, Senior Associate Pastor of the Christland Baptist Church. To this credit, Rev. Williams continues his journey mentored by some of Black America’s most prominent political activists, including Rev. Jessie Jackson, Jr. and Rev. Al Sharpton.
Rev. Williams began his social justice advocacy work with the National Action Network and was elected president of its Youth and College Division. Over the years, he also served as a community organizer with M.O.S.E.S. (Metropolitan Organizing Strategy Enabling Strength) cutting his teeth in the field of faith-based community efforts working with churches across the state.
Rev. Williams, the youngest member of the 2004 Democratic National Platform Committee, served as the Michigan State Director for Rev. Al Sharpton’s Presidential Campaign. In 2004, he also worked on the National Election Protection Initiative under the leadership of Mr. William Lucy, Secretary-Treasurer of AFSCME and President of the Coalition of Black Trade Unionist.
He served as the youngest Staff Representative in the International Union, The American Federation of State County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), negotiating collective bargaining agreements, and continues his daily journey towards social justice for all. This journey began at Eastern Michigan University, where Williams pursued his Bachelor of Science degree in Political Science and African American Studies.
Currently, Rev. Williams serves as the Political Director for the Michigan Democratic Black Caucus, Vice-Chair of the Young Democrats – 14th District, a delegate of the Michigan Democratic State Central Committee and a is a active member of the Council of Baptist Pastors of Detroit & Vicinity.
Rev. Williams, a young man on the move, recently developed and co-hosts a radio talk show entitled, “Your Perspective.” Your Perspective, a forum on an array of political, social justice and community issues, broadcast weekdays on 1440 WMKM-AM.”
Need I say more?
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:45pmCould I use the Koran as a doorstop? How about to balance a table leg, what if I used it for target practice or as a coloring book? I think we should show Islam just as much respect as they show the rest of the religions in the world, and if they don’t like it, just remember the sign in my front yard “If you can read this, you are now in range”.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:53pmCATB…“blow up” is right, when referring to the WTC. Controlled demolition. And no, George Bush didn’t go through and wire the buildings. Thats Glenn’s way of making it seem ridiculous to believe 9/11 was an inside job, which it absolutely was.
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:06pmLiving in the Detroit this is a hot bed for all types of twisted off-shoots of religion that hide under Christianity, just like BHO’s so called pastor. If you do not know Dearborn. Mi has one of, if not the, greatest populations of muslims in this country. Of course they are here because of the Jewish population. They follow the Jewish people around like those sucker fish on sharks. Always have, always will.
So the media exposure to this Fla. gentleman has got him addicted. As Betterdays had said earlier we are in a spiritual battle. I do not condone Bible burning but it has become accepted in this age.
The Bible burning used to bother me earlier on, but I have been shown better now. My God is living and living in me. A dead god that lives in a book and can be destroyed by a bic lighter has no power over me and does not scare me. I have worked in jails, prisons, psych wards with the criminally insane, on the streets, and in churches. I can say that I am a spiritual warfare veteran. It is know so easy for me to be shown what is in a person. We are very complex beings in how we exist, but very basic in our our make up, behavior wise.
The old cartoons of the angel on one shoulder and the devil on the other is spot on. It all boils down to which dog you decide to feed.
God is alive, the angels around us are not here to keep us alive as much as they are to do spiritual battle. So if angles are here…….what are they here for and with whom are they doing battle with?
Those that so not know the answers to what I have posed here have already made their choice, but you still have the breathe of life in you.
(Revised)
Report Post »ozchambers
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:10pmI read everything in this story without going to the full link. I think they have a right to counter protest and to consider his actions “unamerican” to try and divide the American people. Kind of like how Obama has done the same thing, but the right to be divisive is protected by our “American” Constitution. The pastor is an idiot, but I would hope to see these same american muslims and supporters protesting the violent murderous reactions against innocent americans and Christians in other parts of the world over what this pastor did.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:10pmScrubbing again are we ?
Report Post »Hey guys, search for :
hate+arab+dearborn
on youtube , and prepare to be amazed @ islamic hate towards Americans
hauschild
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:21pmCheck it out: Burn the American flag and your’re simply practicing freedom of speech. But, burn a book that essentially stands for nothing American …
Oh, the irony.
Report Post »Hungry_i
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:24pmLOLZ @ Riseandshine.
Report Post »stifroc
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:26pmOkay okay okay OKAY!
NO MORE BURNING KORANS!!!!
I propose we have the Koran printed on Charmin…. or on the inside of Huggies.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:27pmAnother good example of people of all races, creeds and religions, joining together in support of acceptance and tolerance of their fellow inhabitant of this planet. An expression of the best mankind has to offer, evidence of the effect of God‘s love and Christ’s teachings on the world. People of diverse backgrounds and experiences coming together in peace.
There, no here at this website. Here you find hatred toward anything Muslim. Here Pastor Jones finds support, regardless of how much violence and death he incites elsewhere in the world (12 dead in Pakistan which I’m not saying was justified, but which I am saying would not have happened were it not for Jones actions).
And what do the Muslims in Far East say on their websites? They say Jones represents all Christians, just as you here say Bin Laden represents all Muslims.
You can throw your support to Christian Pastor Jones, based not on teachings of Christ but on your hatred of Muslims, and I wish you luck when you talk to St. Peter.
If you want to hear what real Muslims think, rather than what this and other websites would lead you to believe they think, watch this documentary about Dearborn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5ttyjDvc68
You’ll hear actual Muslims, you know, real people who are Muslims, say what they believe.
Report Post »theonefromabove
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:30pmHe should be put in jail.
http://politicalbowl.com – Political Videos
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:32pmAt first I thought he was stupid to publicise what he did. Now I came to my senses and realise that his free speech is much more important.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:37pmLove the name calling, the pastor isn’t an idiot, the koran is a war manual/training guide used in the Muslim’s war against Christianity. Islam has noting to do with religion, it’s a government without borders, and deserves no protection by our constitution. Calling those telling the truth names doesn’t make it true, anymore than declaring that there is a gay gene means there is one, declaring that man made global warming was going to kill us all by 2010 didn’t make it happen.
Everyone in this nation should burn or throw away every copy of the koran they can get their hands on, every time you go in a hotel room that has one, you should throw it away, or take it home with you and put it in your trash can there, not call this man an idiot and try to prevent him from telling the truth.
Report Post »lovenfl3
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:38pmI do agree that this pator is serving no good purpose. There is enough misplaced racism coming from the liberals. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McsECpBZ0WM
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:39pm@ jzs
Report Post »So , why have muslims been killing non-muslims, all over the world , for centuries now ?
BetterDays
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:41pm@JZS
See your up to your old tricks again, minion.
Pastor Williams II of the Solomon Baptist Church, the only identified member of the counter protest is a card caring socialist and a liberation theology teacher. Yes he has a right to speak as well.
I find it humorous that you three little demons show up at this thread, after all this is the one Satan most desperately wants to push on America, Sharia law.
We grow tired of you JZS, perhaps if you ever posted a factual post, ah that is going to far I suppose.
It is written, “man does not live on bread alone but on every word of GOD”, get thee behind me Satan.
Report Post »abc
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:42pmFighting free speech with free speech. Nothing wrong with that.
Report Post »Dan of Reason
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:43pmSo if Jesus is mentioned 124 times in the Koran, is it as Lord, liar, or lunatic? If He was just a prophet, then there is a serious, intractable contradiction. Kudos to C.S. Lewis for pointing this out.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:46pm@ sWampy
Report Post »This Pastor says koran is the cause of islamic violence .
So he burns a koran
Resulting in muslims going on a rampage and beheading innocent people, in the name of islam.
And yet the Pastor is the intolerant one because islam is a religion of peace ?
IMHO, muslims are proving that the Pastor is right
82dAirborne
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:47pm@jzs
As wrong as you can be. I don’t “Hate anything Muslim.” I hate folks who want me dead because I won’t submit to their religion. I hate people who want this country to become that is diametrically opposed to everything it stands for.
As far as I can tell you are the only person to bring up bin laden.
You must get dizzy staring down your nose at the rest of us. Sure hope it isn’t raining where you are… you’d drown.
I judge people on their actions not on videos from youtube. Try THINKING instead of only regurgitating the leftist script. On second thought just keep on keepin’ on – it’s amusing in a twisted sad way.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:49pmBetterdays…..
You don’t need to say another word, racist.
What did ML King say… (paraphrasing)I have a dream of a day when little white and little black children can walk together….or how about… be judged by the content of our character and not the color of our skin. Now, blacks ‘want’ to be judged by their color.
What happened? Either King didn’t really believe it, or the racist blacks around King didn’t believe it, or these hateful, young blacks who weren’t around for King were taught their hatred by people who never believed it, either.
Though Beck speaks highly of King, I seemed to remember trouble from some of his gatherings. Some of those, back in the civil-rights era, evidently were not taught the way to obtain equal results. Either way, blacks have the same freedoms that I as a white have. The difference is that many young blacks are not able to take advantage of those same freedoms due to their lack of parental support, brought on by generations of a one-parent life, gangs, and of course, race-hustlers who teach them to hate ‘whitey’.
Report Post »And that mouthy, skinny little punk trying to be cute. RRRrrrrrrrrrrr!
Curator_JDR
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:59pmJews, Christians and Muslims unite — and build the Gate of Israel.
When renowned artist Marc Richard Rubin was painting his requested Biblical exhibition on the lineage and history of the Jewish people for Holocaust survivors in the early 2000′s , (online exhibition: http://www.marcrubin.com/or.ivnu ) one night while listening to music under the headphones he heard a voice so loud, he thought someone else was in the room. He wrote down what he heard, and as Marc related, his pen seemed to write by itself; he struggled to grasp it.
What Marc received were the schematics and reason for the “Gate of Israel”.http://www.marcrubin.com/pylon.ivnu While the “Palestinians” plot for international recognition of their terror state this September., what “SYMBOLIC facts on the ground” can Israel create to demonstrate the absurdity and futility of the Palestinian false claim to Eretz Yisrael?
The blueprints are a seed. Only the PEOPLE of Israel can bring the Gate of Israel to fruition. Let everyone you know who loves Israel know about the Gate of Israel.
Report Post »Curator_JDR
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 10:00pmGate of Israel link: http://www.marcrubin.com/pylon.ivnu
Report Post »mill
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 10:04pmTo hell with that…go riot, gather, speak out to the real criminals that burn “thousands” of bible every year in the middle east.
“A” koran …?? funny to see Americans gather around a BOOK OF HATE.
Report Post »mill
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 10:07pmALSO!!!!, why not rally about the
,,,,,,,,,,,Westboro Baptist Church?
The Muslims, Jews and Christians that want to do something constructive need to confront those people, not some hapless pastor over a book of hate
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 10:09pmDECENDENTOF56
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:49pm
Betterdays…..
You don’t need to say another word, racist.
What did ML King say… (paraphrasing)I have a dream of a day when little white and little black children can walk together….or how about… be judged by the content of our character and not the color of our skin. Now, blacks ‘want’ to be judged by their color.
What happened? Either King didn’t really believe it, or the racist blacks around King didn’t believe it, or these hateful, young blacks who weren’t around for King were taught their hatred by people who never believed it, either.
Though Beck speaks highly of King, I seemed to remember trouble from some of his gatherings. Some of those, back in the civil-rights era, evidently were not taught the way to obtain equal results. Either way, blacks have the same freedoms that I as a white have. The difference is that many young blacks are not able to take advantage of those same freedoms due to their lack of parental support, brought on by generations of a one-parent life, gangs, and of course, race-hustlers who teach them to hate ‘whitey’.
And that mouthy, skinny little punk trying to be cute. RRRrrrrrrrrrrr!
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Confusion? What did I say that was/ is racist, specifically ?
Report Post »Let’s see, first post all quotes, meaning Pastor Williams II words not mine, only the last sentence was mine.
Nothing at all anywhere about race, hm,
Saul Alynski is that you?
Beyond that, what was your point?
nzkiwi
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 10:27pm@Cheez
Report Post »You said that I would be amazed, well I wasn’t.
I was stunned. I watched this with my mouth open in shock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Smw9QuH1xkA&feature=related
Everyone should watch it and chase the links as they come up. This dangerous cancer has arrived in your country and is starting to take hold. Your Constitution is being wilfully tossed aside. And so far, too few people realise it.
Robert-CA
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 10:33pm@ JZS
Radical muslims blow themselves up inside mosques during their prayer hours , was that caused by Jones ? or do you have any answer to the mosque bombings ?
Report Post »JZS next time if you have something stupid to say … do us a favor & keep your mouth shut .
CatB
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 10:41pmstifroc
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:26pm
Okay okay okay OKAY!
NO MORE BURNING KORANS!!!!
I propose we have the Koran printed on Charmin…. or on the inside of Huggies.
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Koranelle bathroom tissue — I’d buy that.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 10:43pm82dAirborne, I find your post most ironic of all. “The only speech that really needs protection is that speech that offends others.” Pastor Jones has been banned from entering the UK Airborne.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/8270367/Koran-protest-US-pastor-Terry-Jones-banned-from-UK.html
Your idea that he doesn‘t offend anyone isn’t just wrong, it’s delusional. And it shows me what an incredible narrow world you live in. Here is a man who seemingly has no other purpose in life other than incite violence, and that‘s apparently fine with you because he isn’t “offending anyone” (which actually does not violate the Constitution). Here’s what the local newspaper says:
http://dearborn.patch.com/articles/quran-burner-terry-jones-upcoming-dearborn-protest-ignites-fear-of-violence.
You say you don’t “hate people who want you dead” but you don’t “hate them.” Well said. One one thing is clear: you have never spoken to a single Muslim have you? Why don’t you go to your local Mosque and ask them about their religion. They’d be happy to talk to you. But you won’t, because you are a big chicken who is afraid to talk to anyone who might contradict the fears you cherish so dearly and give meaning to your life.
BetterDays, “Get the behind me Satan”? Were you refering to this statement of mine?:
Another good example of people of all races, creeds and religions, joining together in support of acceptance and tolerance of their fellow inhabitant of this planet. An expression of the best mankind has to offer, evidence of the effect of God‘s love and Christ’s teachings on the world. People of diverse backgrounds and experiences coming together in peace.
If I understand you, people of diverse backgrounds and beliefs coming together in support of peaceful relations, as the Prince of Peace taught, is a tempting thought from Satan, but indiscriminate hatred of an entire group of people, 20% of the world’s population, is what Jesus is drawing you toward.
In your prayers tonight, explain to Christ how you love a Pastor who incites, fear, hatred and violence, and how you dismiss those who would make peace as “minions” (nice word, got it from Trump didn’t you?) of the Devil.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 10:43pm@ nzkiwi
Report Post »These jihadies will be the ones running things in CIA , if they are not already doing it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqGLJtbw0js
Look how Pancetta is courting them .
Imagine these kind of people translating jihadi literature from arabic/darri ,urdu to English for CIA. What guarantees do we have about their loyalties and allegiences ?
nothingbuthetruth
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 11:12pmwhy are they not standing together against people who want to cut off heads of innocent people???
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 11:14pmhow many times does the Koran talk of killing jews???? twice as many as Hitlers Mein Kaumf. If someone says they want to kill you, why dont you believe them?
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 11:15pmWhy dont they stand together for the missionaries that were arrested last year at the arab festivle for handing out jesus literature?
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:27amIf your brother doesn’t have your doctrine do you let them in your house, moreover if your brother was a molester of children would you let them in your house around your children in that they don’t hold your doctrine in regards to children? I would say a good moral person would not let their brother around their own children, and yet it doesn‘t mean that you don’t love your brother.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:31amDo you know why your form of Christianity is going to fail? Because you think that what Jesus meant by “Love your brother” means that you have to accept all brothers into your house no matter what.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:32amThe koran makes a good fire starter for the charcoal for my pork BBQ
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:33amWell I say if ever someone is burning the Koran, we should all help out and take a leak on it to put out the fire. I mean it’s the least we could do.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:44amcheezwhiz: “Imagine these kind of people translating jihadi literature… What guarantees do we have about their loyalties and allegiences ?”
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We’ve seen how that pans out. Remember the Jordanian doctor in Afghanistan who blew himself up and took with him our best CIA operatives?
It’s taqiyya all the freaking way.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 1:28amHey, JZS, rest assured that Jones will not be talking to the Apostle Peter — ever. Jones has no part in Christ. However, he might meet YOU on the other side, if you don’t change course. Serving an evil man has spiritual conequences. Have you thought about that?
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 3:22amI do not count ISLAM as a religion, but a COUNTERFEIT mind-control cult…however, I think TERRY JONES is on the same low-life level as the Westboro Baptist Church and I think that JESUS will deal with him appropriately. I would not like to be him then. I think the MUSLIMS need to get their heads on straight and stop their head-long flight to hell too. Burning a KORAN is a lot better than cutting off Daniel Pearl‘s head on video for ’effect’. THERE’S A LOT OF GROWING UP THAT HAS TO BE DONE.
PEOPLE FROM OUTTER SPACE would look at all of us as a bunch of whining BRATS. WE have life, we have this earth, we have brains and we act like spoiled children. WE don’t take care of our kids, in fact we murder them by the 10′s of thousands (one every 95 seconds in the USA ALONE) and you dopes in the ME are strapping bombs to your precious kids, after you’ve brainwashed the hell into them. REALLY…time to GROW UP …EVERYONE.
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 4:27amHeartwarming! What would make it believable would be for the group of mixed religions to show their religious (non political) purity by their signs. How about–”We love the Jews,“ ”We love the Christians,“ and ”We love the Muslims.” And since all religions are basically the same the signs would need to be randomly distributed….. Love to see who agrees to hold what sign…..
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 5:36amIf some nut burned a bible everyone would shrug their shoulder at the news…so why the big fuss?
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 6:42amGot rid of Grayson, now FL has this nut case who is only looking for his 5 minutes of fame. I wish he was “no news” and maybe he would just fade away.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 7:37amWhere’s the outrage from these group against farrakahn who preraches hate daily,or the black panthers and their calls for killin cracka babies. Oh wait let attack someone for burning paper first…then we can deal with all the real evil later.
Report Post »DimmuBorgir
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 7:55ami wipe my a$$ with the koran
I have known a number of muslims, they’re all hypocrites and they all think they are better than everyone else. they see christians as scum.
Report Post »frodis
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 7:58amGlenn sure hates this guy. Let him protest. Muslims burn the American flag everyday. Don’t see this group telling radical not to come to America. Total double standard.
Report Post »nptden
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 8:14amWhen are they going to complain about Muslim’s burning churches, and beheading Christians?
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 8:16amFreedom of speech and expression is not un-American. It may be distasteful at times, but it is distinctly an American trait to speak your mind in any damned way you please. I will criticize the opposition here in these united States, but I never say that their speaking their minds is un-American.
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 8:29amSince when is it wrong for someone like Terry Jones to expose evil? These that are standing with the Muslims are the biggest hypocrites, the Bible even says what fellowship does light have with the darkness and not to be yoked with unbelievers. Terry Jones has done nothing wrong by trying to expose the true face of Islam that many are still amazingly ignorant of the threat of Islam. They obviously must have forgot about the carnage and slaughter of innocent people by the Barbarian Muslims overseas. Why are people so ignorant to believe that Islam is going to be any different here once their numbers are great enough here, have infiltrated enough positions of power, and maybe get laws drafted in like they have in Europe where one word against Islam gets you arrested.
Report Post »Where in the Bible does it say that Christians are supposed to stand with and support Satan!
Love Bandit Bestid
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:27amMuslims: Convert or die!
Report Post »hologram5
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:32amTell your homies to quit killing people and publicly denounce all violence towards Christians and we’ll talk about peace. Show peace and you’ll get peace. Otherwise, prepare to be glassed over.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:53am@82dAirborne:
Exactly right: what good is 1st-amendment freedom of speech if it doesn’t include freedom of offensive speech?
@JZS:
Report Post »Jones does in fact offend nearly everyone! That‘s why he’s been banned in the UK, which does not have a 1st amendment.
Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:15amPastor Jones has the beauty of FREEDOM.
Report Post »Imagine what that could mean for you and me!
What do you think comedians are for- we pay them to insult us.
snidley-whiplash
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:35amBETTERDAYS writes
BetterDays
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:36pm
“I am a fighter for social justice. I want to empower young people across the world
to take a stand regarding social justice, economic and political issues that affect their lives.
___________________________________________________________________
Are you for the social justice that takes from those who earned and give to those who live like parasites or
the social justice that treats everyone equal?
Please see the following sites………
http://www.bukisa.com/articles/487279_economic-problem-in-islamic-perspective-and-social-justice?amp&
http://www.lewrockwell.com/block/block37.html
Have a good day
Report Post »snidleywhiplass!
IAMMADDOG
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:47pmRISEANDSHINE if the WTC was an inside job then OBAMA wasn’t born in the USA. Thats how old that BS is getting.
Report Post »avenger
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 3:19pmit is a frigging book,ever hear of the 1st amend.. ! http://thereligionofpeace.com
Report Post »EducatedAmerican
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 3:31pmWhen will we hold the people responsible for the killing rather than condemning someone who is exercising his first amendment right. When they stop burning the American flag I will stop burning their book. Also when did the koran become more important than the bible? I don’t need someone telling me that the koran means more to them than the bible means to me.
Report Post »SoylentGreen
Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:08pmHow many Buddhists rioted and killed when their Buddhas were blown up by the Taliban a mere 6 months before 9-11-2001? I’m pretty sure the answer is NONE.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on April 21, 2011 at 2:03amKICKILLEGALSOUT: “Since when is it wrong for someone like Terry Jones to expose evil?”
Report Post »———-
Burning the Quran is not exposing evil. Glenn exposes evil; Jones taunts evil, and as a result innocent people have died and our troops are at greater risk. If it is too hard for you to understand how burning the Quran endangers our troops, Christians in Muslim countries and Westerners in general, then you don’t really understand Islam, which only goes to show that Jones has not enlightened anyone by burning the Quran.