‘Scab’ Who Was Shot By Alleged Union Member Shares His Incredible Story With Beck
- Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:12pm by
Billy Hallowell
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Early Wednesday morning, The Blaze reported on John King, who owns one of Toledo, Ohio’s largest non-union electrical contracting businesses. King has faced years of strained relations with a local union, but an incident last Wednesday escalated the situation to dangerous levels.
In an exclusive interview with Glenn Beck, King discusses what happened when he was shot by an alleged union member. In describing the situation, he told Beck, “The landscape…has changed dramatically.” What once was slashed tires and minor legal troubles has now turned potentially deadly.
King says that he walked outside in the middle of the night to discover an individual painting the word “scab” on his vehicle. After yelling at the individual to stop, he heard a shot and dropped to the ground. Luckily, he was able to get to a phone inside the home to call authorities (in fact, he didn’t even realize he had been shot until police and paramedics arrived).
Listen to him tell the tale, below:
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Comments (182)
ColtAnaconda
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:13pmBeware union ********, who choose to shoot at me, I will shoot back. Only I won’t miss you.
Report Post »Quigley
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:49pmAs a non-union contractor myself, I refuse to live in fear of union thuggery. I will not miss either. And in the words of the great mr. O’Conner,”Use enough gun.”
DTOM
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 8:11pmUnions are nothing more than a bunch of outlaw type thugs. I’m sure there are a few good people who work and belong to unions, but for the life of me I‘ve had it hearing about all these destructive type union people who think it’s open season on anyone who doesn’t join their communist type thug club.
Destroying property, shooting, or hurting anyone or property in any way is being a coward. Union people who march & shout at places are of the lowest common denominator among decent people.
I still see those hateful teachers in Wisconsin yelling, screaming and making a$$es of themselves, can actually be teaching anything useful to the children. No wonder our children are a bunch of dummies compared to other Nations, we have the worst teachers in the world right here belonging to Unions who teach them to be slimeballs instead of decent people. Are none of you Christians?
Report Post »MHP
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:04amQuigley
You talkin of Carroll O’Connor?
I wish I had that .44 Mag with the 10 inch barrel he carried on his show.
BOOM!!!!!!!
Capt. V.L “Bubba” Skinner for Sheriff
Report Post »Chasvs391
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:13pmUnion THUGS need to be put DOWN and NOW!
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:13pmFrom a reluctant union member with IBEW…I am shocked and I pray for this man’s speedy recovery!!!
Report Post »toto
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:47pmYou good union members need to grow some backbone and stand up to those who represent you.
Report Post »thomasdaddy
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:10pmSo much of this story was BS!
1. He didn’t know he was shot until the detectives told him?? So when he her the shot why did he drop to his knees???
2. No proof who did this! Just assuming it was a union member, and all you idiots jump to conclusions!
Sounds like a fan that wanted to get on the radio! Blah Blah Blah!
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:16pmThe same way your jumping to conclusions about him being shot and not feeling it?
Happens quite frequently FYI…..
Keep talking Pot….
Report Post »hechafteth
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:18pmIt’s been going on since he got back from Vietnam and opened his own eletrical contracting business after leaving IBEW Local #8. Strange coincidence?
Again – By looking at an aerial view of their compound in Ohio, there are probably a dozen fields of fire with ranges of more than 600 meters. Do you think they’ll want to put up “T” walls now this story has been broken on national media?
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:19pmhense the word scab on his SUV….union member…think so!
Report Post »hechafteth
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:22pmIn case you forgot to call:
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
Report Post »705 Lime City Rd, Rossford, OH 43460
(419) 666-3350
BlazingInSC
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:23pm@ThomasDaddy – read the original story. There is a history of the IBEW harrassing this man, his employees, and his business… You are a tool.
Report Post »thomasdaddy
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:27pmeagle,
LMAO!! How did I jump to a conclusion? He said he didn’t know he was shot until the detective told him, but he said he dropped to his knees when he heard the shot! If you hear a shot and something causes you to drop to your knees at the same time, there’s a good chance that shot hit you!! LMAO!! Unreal! Also, if he didn’t know he was shot, what did he say to the 911 operator “I‘ve fallen and I can’t get up”? LOL Did he report a trespasser, or possible vandal? He doesn’t say! Too many holes in the story! Of course none of you are looking at that because you want to believe it so you can continue to dump on unions! Damn common sense! LMAO!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:29pmYes Thomasdropkick…apparently this is highly unusual behaviour for unions.
Report Post »thomasdaddy
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:29pmhech,
“It’s been going on since he got back from Vietnam and opened his own eletrical contracting business after leaving IBEW Local #8. Strange coincidence?”
I hear ya, but he never mentions them ever proving that any of the damage over the years was at the hands of a union member. That long, and not once did they catch someone?? Just seems fishy to me!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:31pmEagle…Sherlock Thomasdopey is on the case.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:32pmHechafteth
First off it‘s absurd to suggest such a thing as ’fields of fire’. As I bet most of the union boys are thugs, but not all of them are. I know several folks who are union, hate it, but can’t get work without it because of the system
Second your assessment of fields of fire is asinine, as a good 200 degrees of the radius has homes behind it, and any weapon capable of shooting 600 m would put anyone in those homes at risk, another 45 degrees has a Catholic School behind it…great backdrop for a target huh?…the rest is blocked by trees or an interstate…So not only is your assessment fallacious, it’s un-necessary, and gives these liberal/progressive dumb sh*^$ cannon fodder to make the rest of us look like idiots.
Those comments over beer and bullshitting with friends are alright, but not on a forum were people take you seriously…especially idiots like Thomas and Encinom…
Report Post »jocko
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:33pmSomeone asked what if he wasn’t treating his workers right?
How about what we do here in the freedom loving, right to work state of Colorado? If an employee isn’t doing the job, we fire them. We don’t play footsie with the shop steward and worry about seniority. My rule if you don‘t care to work at what you have then I don’t have to pay you for doing nothing. And, well, duh! Go get another job with the union dues if you don’t like the company you are working for. Can’t find another job? Then, blame the unions for making everything so expensive that the economy is failing.
Report Post »Unions create so much waste with their limited job functions and protectionism that it is a wonder that our auto industry hasn’t failed sooner. I have worked in a union and I have worked as management in a union shop and I found the union worker‘s attitude towards ’getting the job done’ nonexistent.
At the turn of the previous century, unions served a purpose but since then they have become nothing but progressive/marxists criminal centers for extortion.
thomasdaddy
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:37pmhey blaze you bumpkin,
The only thing they can directly attribute to the union is picketing in the 80′s! None of the vandalism was ever proven to be someone from the Union! Stick to what you can prove. Speculation is like peeing, any ***** can do it!
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:37pmHave you ever been shot???
Report Post »I have heard this repeatedly from people with minor gunshots. Small caliber, non vital hit, no bone contact. Until you feel or see the wetness, or someone tells you about it. Get out of mommy’s basement and get a life!
Dudester
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:38pm“He didn’t know he was shot until the detectives told him??
Actually, the story said “he didn’t even realize he had been shot until police and paramedics arrived”, not that the police told him.This suggests a grazing wound and adrenaline causing confusion.
In fact, I was once standing next to someone at a gun range who was accidentally shot (defective gun) and it took us a few seconds to confirm that yes, he had been shot. Even though the bullet went through his hip and calf and lodged in his ankle, he was in shock and didn’t even feel it for some time.
“So when he her the shot why did he drop to his knees???”
Because sane people tend to want to hide/make a smaller target when bulllets are flying at them.
“No proof who did this! Just assuming it was a union member, and all you idiots jump to conclusions!”
Multi-decade campaign of union harassment, vandalism and lawsuits, culminated by a person writing SCAB on his truck and shooting him. You don’t have to jump to that conclusion. its already sitting in your lap.
Report Post »thomasdaddy
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:39pmgerk,
All i’m asking for is a little proof! Something no one seems able to supply!
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:40pmThomas, your making yourself look like more and more of a jack ass….
Look up some combat medical reports of guys on the battlefield who get knocked to the ground, can’t breathe, and feel cold…but don‘t think they were shot cause they don’t see blood….Now are these guys full of BS? They sure as hell knew they were being shot at, more than often hear the shot, and then return fire often killing the attacker…All before the medic comes over and informs them they were shot….
Shock is a little neat trick your body employs in result to trauma that screws with every sense you have, your thought process, and your situational awareness…
The drop to his knees was a likely a result of sudden loss of blood pressure that his body quickly balanced out, the pain was blocked and he was still functioning so he didn’t realize he was shot as his brain was focused on survival and flight, not rationalizing the situation.
” he didn’t even realize he had been shot until police and paramedics arrived” not detectives, don’t try to twist the story. It was first responders, and again IT HAPPENS ALOT, especially with superficial wounds. Unless your shot in the vitals, or an artery is ripped open, you can completely miss the fact you were shot.
So you jumped to conclusions by saying this guy is full of BS because you do not know the facts of what happens when your shot at or actually shot. You concluded, through your lack of said knowledge, that this guy was full o
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:45pmjust like when your wife ask “is it in”
Report Post »thomasdaddy
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:50pmjack,
No, not someone. Me! The actual exchange is as follows:
discus02 (asked):
“If the workers are doing a good job, why do they need a union.”
I responded:
“What if the company is not doing right by its workers?”
Then you go on some rant about firing workers that aren’t doing a good job. Completely irrelevant!
“Can’t find another job? Then, blame the unions for making everything so expensive that the economy is failing.”
Report Post »This has to be the most ridiculous comment, and it’s been debunked repeatedly! Do you even realize that unions only account for 15% of the u.s. workforce? How in the hell do you think they have that sort of influence across the board? Get real!
biffo
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:53pmYou’re a union thug. Dumb as a bag of rocks, entitled to a paycheck, drunk at 2:30 everyday, stealing what you want, and a Jets fan. HA!
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:56pmWhen something like that happens, you‘re adrenilin is flowing so much you don’t realize you’re hurt. I was in a car accident (I know, not a shooting, but it still had my adrenilin flowing) and didn’t realize I was hurt until later that day. He was shotin the arm, not the chest or stomach. Also proves that union thugs are liberals, don’t know how to shoot a gun properly. If he’d been conservative and for gun ownership, he’d been a better shot. Guess we’re lucky there.
Report Post »OhioMarcus
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:56pmsounds like you’re a union thug youself
Report Post »Berealalready
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:58pmhahahahahaha! I am laughing at YOU. Do you have to work to be that stupid or does it come naturally? Maybe he vandalized his own vehicle and THEN shot himself so he could blame it on a union guy?! Yeah, that must be it. LOL, LMAO, ROTFLMAO.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:00pmThomas – “How in the hell do you think they have that sort of influence across the board”
By it being mandated by local goverments that you have to use unions to do work…..
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:06pmJocko….Thomasdroppedatbirth sees no wrong with unions. For instance the NLRB litigating against Boeing for wanting to move some of their business to a non-union factory in South Carolina. It saves on costs for the company and employs people in South Carolina. Thomasdroppedatbirth doesn’t care about people in South Carolina getting jobs from this..he only cares about what the unions care about.
Report Post »thomasdaddy
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:13pmeagle,
Report Post »spare me thyour BS Greys Anatomy diagnosis!
thomasdaddy
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:17pmgerk,
“Jocko….Thomasdroppedatbirth sees no wrong with unions.”
You’re an idiot! I judge all situations on a case by case basis! You seem to condemn all unions for the little information you get from Glen Beck! Real smart!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:42pmOf course Thomasdunderhead…You “judge all situations on a case-by-case basis”. This is why you reflexively began reciting the lefty talking point..”what if the company is not doing right by it’s workers” while never acknowledging modern labor laws. Your mask keeps slipping Thomasdropkick and it’s hysterical watching you scramble to put it back on.
Report Post »nmgene
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:44pmAdrenilin makes your body go into overdrive. You may not know you have been shot and not feel any pain untill the adrenilin high wears off. A person not in the Union would paint scab on a persons car. Scab is a word used by Unions for years to describe non union workers. Go back to your hole and crawl back in!!!
Report Post »thomasdaddy
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:52pmgerk,
“while never acknowledging modern labor laws.”
Asked and answered! try to keep up with the conversation! Geez!! You do know for every law there is a loophole right! Do you ever get tired of looking like an a$$?
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:53pmReally Thomas? That’s the best you got? ….”BS Grey’s Anatomy diagnosis”….
Never seen the show, as I’m not big into shows that appeal to the women demographic like you are apparently….These facts come from Basic combat first aid actually, courtesy of the USMC.. little old but not a lot has changed…
But like I was saying P O T …it’s humorous that you criticize others for jumping to conclusions by taking a grand cavern size jump to a conclusion to do so….
Keep running your mouth about something you have no knowledge, experience, or facts about and I’ll gladly hit you on the head with my “fact stick” again…
Report Post »thomasdaddy
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 5:11pmgerk,
I figured you for a chick. Only women b&^ch and moan the way you do! That was all the time and keystrokes I allocated to your stupidity! You keep saying that I jumped to a conclusion and you concluded that every aspect of this story is true, right down to the fact that it was a union work who committed the crime with no proof! Unreal! Just let it go!
Report Post »LMAO!
AvengerK
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 5:13pmThat’s it Thomasdunderhead? That‘s all you’ve got? “for every law this is a loophole right!!”? When did you begin believing that being shrill is a credible argument? You‘ve lost Thomasdropkick and all you’ve got are deflections.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 5:17pmSexist too Thomas? You’re a walking contradiction….
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 6:22pmOH I think we can attribute more than picketing to the union…wasn’t it union members that have it out right now for verizon employees (physically)…wasn’t it union members that was on the lawn of a BofA executive, terrorizing the guys kid…wasn’t it union members that beat up some guy outside a rally…wasn‘t it union members that we’re found drinking and doing drugs on their lunch break…most (not all) are a bunch of lazy aholes, if they don’t get their way, turn into thugs. THOMAS…you’re a union member and are sticking up for your “brothers and sisters”…and apparently agree with the union tactics of handling things…nice
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 6:36pmThomasdroppedatbirth…You bleated earlier- “You do know for every law there is a loophole right!” Thomasdork…you do know you end a question with a question mark, right?
Report Post »Your peurile deflections aside. Never once in your reflexive recitation of lefty talking points about “workers” did you acknowledge modern labor laws. Clearly you have a stunted and hopelessly biased perspective. Go ahead Thomasdon’tknowmuch….bemoan the name callilng..LOL.
eagle2715
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 6:47pm“what’s really contradictory is a 1stMarDiv interrogator”
Not even close…Try again…
I don’t give two ***** if you were some detachment commander or whatever. You say something stupid like setting up firing positions while posting their address it makes you look like a loon.
And I love how your sticking up for Thomas just because you’re mad at me for calling you out on a dumb **** statement…..And you know it was, or you wouldn’t of freaked on me……If all you wanted to talk about was T walls then say it, but don’t talk about setting up an attack, then try to defend it by saying it was limited to a simplistic question about T walls…..
“Did you happen to remember that even IF you win this debate on the interwebs you’re still a ******?”
You say this while your arguing with me? And interwebs? Really? HAHA
“yes I f*ing knew how that field of fire looked in respect to the social responsibility of collateral casualties”
Either you didn’t or you chose to complete ignore it while saying what you did…which is it?
“Go back to ******* in your nest, MARINE.”
Gladly…Was this supposed to be an insult? Try again….
Report Post »Perspective
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 11:57pmThomas the Troll. Come on people why do you even reply to his posts? All he ever does is call people names. Bottom line is he‘s an unemployed unionite who had to move back in with his parents and now he’s got all this time to be a Troll. Oh yeah,he’s pissed off because he had to move back in with his parents,hence all the name calling.
Report Post »johnbarlycorn
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 5:39pmDear ThomasDaddy, I will assume you are intelligent, informed, and actually mean what you say. Therefore, I recommend that all respondents to your missive STOP IMMEDIATELY. This is straight out of the Marxist playbook. He is trying to provoke you. Their answer is always intimidation and violence because their ability to debate in a civil, reasonable, fact centered fashion ends in frustration. Their frustration and a lack of intellectual inquisitiveness are the springboard for this violence. Honestly; a man is shot at while at his residence……… this respondent is another example of the enablers of violence. This is what awaits anyone with the courage to live their life in a free manner. Citizens, the barbarians are here and they mean to harm. To be forewarned is to be forearmed.
Report Post »MHP
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:16amThomas,
Union thugs who shoot people for no reason, should be shot on sight, no trial needed, just bury em.
Hell I’ll even supply my hearse.
Report Post »hechafteth
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:59pmBy looking at an aerial view of their compound in Ohio, there’s probably a dozen fields of fire with ranges of more than 600 meters. Do you think they’ll want to put up “T” walls now this story has been broken on national media?
Report Post »Unbelievable
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:57pmInteresting how they have “666” in their phone number.
Report Post »dochunter
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:57pmIn the 50′s we studied the union movement — it’s origins and how they have outlived their usefulness. That was the most amazing college course I had. Everything I learned has come true many times over.
Report Post »Rogue
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:08pmWow. Amazing that your class was 50 years ago, and is probably just as relevant today as it was then. For us young people, we have never experienced a time when unions were even remotely necessary. It’s a testament to capitalism that we have upheld the strain on our economy caused by unions over the last half century.
Report Post »MHP
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:38amencinom,
You really think the unions are standing up for my right?
Hell no they aren’t, all you thugs want to do is shoot me.
Report Post »Parnell3rd
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:52pmCheck out the 666 prefix! Unions are evil!
Report Post »discardofevil
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:48pmJust got hung up on!
Report Post »discus02
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:45pmIf the workers are doing a good job, why do they need a union. Union bosses are just blood suckers! The workers are the meal ticket. Yummy Yummy!
Report Post »thomasdaddy
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:15pm“If the workers are doing a good job, why do they need a union.”
What if the company is not doing right by it’s workers?
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:21pmBy the sounds of it they have been doing very good by their workers…As the workers are the ones who turned in the union for illegal hiring practices when they tried to shut his business down by bribing his workers….He got a pretty nice lawsuit $$ out of it against them too, in a Union friendly state…
Report Post »hechafteth
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:23pmIn case you forgot to call them:
Report Post »International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
705 Lime City Rd, Rossford, OH 43460
(419) 666-3350
Ex_Masshole
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:23pmOSHA and Labor Laws are in place to protect the workers. Yeah, I know that the unions were instrumental in the development and implementation of both, but now that we have them, there is no more need for the unions who serve no value except to extort excessive wages and benefits from business owners and use the “protection money” that they extort to fund the election campaigns of their criminal brethren.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:27pmWhat if a company is not doing right by it’s workers?
Report Post »How about Labor Laws? It’s not 1930 anymore.
What about workers not doing right by the company? Union says you can’t fire them.
Fly Old Glory 24/7 365
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:28pm@ TDADDY: in todays world, if the business is not doing the right thing, you honestly think they will survive? You need to wake up and smell the coffee. Your comments on here so far are just a hoot.
Report Post »pickupyurcross
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:41pm@thomasdaddy
That’s why we have things called labor laws. All of the labor laws that are in place right now make unions completely unnecessary. And for your earlier comments: when one hears a gunshot ring out after yelling at someone who is vandalizing your car (scab, not the usual tag placed on a car by local gang members) a normal reaction is to drop and get down to make a smaller target. It is very possible for people to get shot and not know it because of the adrenaline rush that you get when something like that happens. I’ve seen it hundreds of times during 20 years in emergency medicine. As the adrenaline wears off they begin to notice pains and injuries. I’m sure it ill come out in the 911 tapes that he called to report tht he was shot at.
Unions have been driving a wedge between workers and employers for years. They have outlived their time. Now all they do is increase wages and strife in the workplace. The increased wages result in higher costs passed on to the consumer. Next time you negotiate for your higher union wage, remember that it’s your fault when the price of whatever it is you make goes up as well, so don’t complain about higher prices.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:42pmEagle…don’t waste your time with Thomasdeluded. He’s just a lefty bomb-hurler. He just says “stuff” it doesn’t have to make sense, as long it agrees with his lefty sensibilities. King has been hounded by the unions there for years. There’s been legal actions in the past which King has won. Clearly the union has him targeted and it’s not unusual for “unionistas” to use violence and intimidation but Thomasdunderhead can’t process all that. Union-equals-lefty-ally-equals-never questioned to the troglodytic Thomasdopey.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:01pmdiscus02
Report Post »Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:45pm
If the workers are doing a good job, why do they need a union. Union bosses are just blood suckers! The workers are the meal ticket. Yummy Yummy!
____________________________________________________________
Tell that line of BS to all the non-union workers injured because the company decided to save a dew pennys on safety equipment, or what about the workers worked like animals in condictions that would led to animal cruelty charges if they were. You quislings of the tea-****** party have sold your souls and country men for the few scrapes the wealth dust off their tables. It is the union men in Ohio, in Wisconsin, in Florida that are standing up for the rights of all americans. It is the workers that the GOP and tea baggers attack that hold the true spirit of 1776, not the fools in custumes at politcal rallies.
eagle2715
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:52pmWas wondering when a troll (ENCINOM) would come out from under the bridge…
ENCINOM, I know this is hard for you to do, as facts make your head hurt, but look at accident and labor statistics from the last 10 years. Private non union firms have blown Union Labor out of the water in safety and lack of accidents for going on 10 years now…
Reasons? Many I’m sure, but some include:
You do something unsafe and stupid in a Union shop, you get yelled at, then sent back to the union hall to think about your mistake. You do it for a non-union firm, your ass gets kicked off the site ASAP, you get a bad name in the contracting circles, and no references for future work. Good incentive.
And also, at least our company and most of our competitors, pays bonuses for jobs that go without accidents and loss of time incidents…Or $$ in the pockets of guys who do things safely….
Report Post »We also pay more and give better benefits to the laborers and operators than the Unions ever do….Something that really chaps there ass. They hate when guys ditch the union to come work for us. I’ve seen the giant inflatable rats to prove it too…
thomasdaddy
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 5:00pmgerk..
“There’s been legal actions in the past which King has won.”
That legal action had nothing to do with violence!! This is from the original article!
“Unfortunately, being a non-union electrical company, King has always been on the radar of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW). In fact, in 2006, he won a significant case against the IBEW at the US Court of Appeals, after the union had improperly promised his electricians jobs on union sites if they voted the union into King’s company.”
How does that translate into this union being responsible for grazing this guy with a bullet? You rather deal with assumption rather than fact, because that’s the only way to make things make sense in your little world! You name call when you see you have no substantive argument! You’re a joke! A fool with no purpose on this planet other than to be a minion to the ignorant!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 6:08pmYou know what your problem is Thomasdroppedatbirth? You think others can’t read. Worse yet…apparently you can’t read. And because you can’t read, you can‘t use reasoning to come to the conclusion that the unions have damaged King’s property in the past and that his being shot was a result of him catching a vandal in the act of vandalizing his car.
From the linked article:
“Since he’s been in business, in addition to the legal battles and verbal abuse, King’s company has been vandalized and threatened on numerous occasions.
“Back then, it was nothing to have to regularly buy a new set of tires,” King said during a telephone interview on Tuesday. “The ice pick was the weapon of choice.”- Yes Thomasdon’tknowmuch….the legal action was for a non-violent action but clearly there’s been a campaign of vandalism and threats by your beloved unions against King.
Now…rather than hurling insults at people that are clearly a lot brighter than you…try reading the article before you launch into your insipid defense of all things union. Clownshoes.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 6:30pmWhat a joke you are Eagle, cite these reports. The truth is in a non-union shop some one raises a safety issues they are fired and black listed.
“Operators of union mines who scrimp on safety must deal with determined union stewards, who often call government inspectors if a problem isn’t corrected.
Non-union miners who complain are often fired and blackballed, which makes it almost impossible to get another job in a nearby mine, miners said. So most don’t complain.” http://www.courier-journal.com/cjextra/dust/dust_companies_nonunion.html
“If you [raise a safety concern] in a nonunion mine, you’re probably going to be fired or at least suspended,” he said. “You can bring a federal action — a safety discrimination case. But that’s time-consuming and could take a couple of years.”
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10108/1051388-455.stm#ixzz1VKMZhBLk
With the protection of the Union the nonunion workers shut there mouths and do not report dangerous condictions or accidents, is it any wonder that the BP rig that blew up last year was nonunion.
Report Post »Mike N
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 6:30pmPoor ENCINOM needs an education . . .
Workplace safety in the USA is governed by the OSHA . . . no need for unions in this case.
If an employee and employer cannot agree on a wage that is fair to both parties, the employee is no more special than some other bloke that can be hired off the street and trained quickly. An employer will always pay more to a worker who listens better, learns better and produces better than those who do not. They produce a better return on investment, AND they set a great example for others. Wages should not bargained for collectively. No need for unions in this case either.
Employers who offer crummy benefits have very high turnover rates, and poor profitability. They lose their productive workers to other, more deserving employers. Ultimately, they are flashes in the pan, and eventually get replaced by others which can do better. Often it takes time for these ill-fated businesses to fail, but they do . . . capitalism at work . . . survival of the fittest. No need for unions here, just time.
So, what value do unions really add? . . . educate me please ENCINOM.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 6:44pmPoor Mike N, he is just a lackey for his corporate masters. He just sells his soul to be his corporate masters pet poodle. To bad he has no understanding the real world and the black lists for non-union workers that speak up.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 6:45pmMike N…you don’t have to look any further to support your assertion than the recent NLRB vs Boeing fiasco. Boeing wants to launch a multimillion dollar facility in South Carolina- a non-union state. But the unions want to fight this. Boeing can keep it’s costs down, employ hundreds of workers and boost local economies all by going to a non-union location and the unions have to use the intimidation of the courts to “scrare” Boeing into not exercising it’s freedom of choice. It‘s doesn’t get more clearly illustrated.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 6:57pm“….cite these reports. The truth is in a non-union shop someone raises a safety issues they are fired and black listed.”
I’ll cite mine if you cite yours….
Mine are from the Bureau of Labor…Yours are made up. Every construction company I have EVER worked for has at least a weekly safety meeting, if not a daily one like were I work now, in which workers bring up safety issues to their bosses so problems can get resolved. What good does it do a company to not fix a safety issue when it could end up costing them $10s of thousands in workers’ comp, $100s of thousand in equipment damage, and a damaged bond rating. YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT…..You probably don’t’ even know what bonding is, as in this day in age it’s one of the biggest drivers for a safe working environment….
Your talking miners, I’m talking construction… Two different worlds entirely. The unions work different, and the corporations work different. On a personal level, I think mines still need Unions as they are still an extremely dangerous working environment with some corporate owners who don’t care about there workers, and through payoffs to politicians avoid fines and mine closures due to safety issues.
This is however not about mines, it’s about construction, an industry that is being choked to death by the trade unions and the worthless human beings they allow to stay in the work force….(not saying all union workers are, just that unions allow the one
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 7:02pm“Poor Mike N, he is just a lackey for his corporate masters.”
OSHA can, has, and will continue to shut down jobsites faster than a union could ever dream of…And they don’t report to any corporate masters. OSHA catches a roofer on a roof without a harness, it’s $10,000-$30,000 fine per instance and a mandatory 1 week stoppage….And thats on the General, not the laborer doing the work…..
You may be right that corporations don‘t promote saftey because they don’t give a **** about the worker. They do promote saftey because it costs them way more money if they don’t….
Report Post »MHP
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:36amencinom,
as I told Thomas, I’ll tell you.
Union thugs who shoot people for no damn reason should be shot on site. no trial, just bury ‘em
Hell I’ll even supply my hearse LOL
Because of this it’s necessary to be armed for protection, and trust me, as ‘ol Jed Clampett taught me, I can shoot flies off a fence post at 300 feet.
Report Post »MHP
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 2:07amencinom,
Not only do regulatory agencies like OSHA, MSHA, have the right to inspect any company, including ones who are union, and shut them down immediately. No notice required.
US Coast Guard also has the right to come in and inspect for ecological hazards. We had a fishing boat in for repairs, and one of the crews spilled just a quart of oil in the lake. Coast Guard came in, and I escorted them on to the ship to find the captain. then I went back off.
An hour later the Coasties came and got me, and I had to sign a citation as a witness they wrote to the ship, and the captain was obligated to accept it. Today I still have a copy of the ticket, attached to my SOR report.
See as I worked for a security company, and we were union, I wish our union had done better for us, but we got higher pay than what the union contract called for but the client paid the difference.
the shipyard I worked at was union as well, and we have to walk a fine line between management and the employees. But I didn’t. I helped everybody out.
Thus I’m damn good friends with the company owners and management, and all the union guys as well.
All of them had my back in case something happened.
Most of the guards never experience the friendships I had, and still do have to this day.
And I’m always invited back to visit the yard at any time.
Report Post »this is where I met Sea Shepherd Conservation Society and Captain Paul Watson (Whale Wars)
Whom I still support to this day, and so does the shipyard
MHP
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 2:31amencinom,
the fine for this incident was $27,500 PER DAY that the spill was not cleaned up.
When President Bush got elected, and not selected, the fines went to over $50,000 per day.
You think the unions can pay these fines?
Companies can’t either, but the owner of the ship is stuck for the fines, as they are a client of the yard.
How much does it cost to get a ship repainted, well it depends on the length, but most are $1 million dollars plus.
Check out http://www.lakeunioncrew.com
We built these barges from scratch starting in drydock.
Report Post »You can imagine the cost.
Die Trying
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:45pmit’s time
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 9:23pmOK! After reading all this stuff about union/non union, I’ve made up my mind when I need any type work done, it will be done by a small firm who has a good reputation, whether a plumber, electrician or painter, etc. Don‘t want any of those hateful type union people who think it’s all about them. From now on, I will look for the Union Label and go strictly non-union. I’ve heard enough already.
As I’ve said before, after seeing those mean, hateful teachers in Wisconsin yell, scream & condemn others it was so sad to watch I couldn‘t help but compare a good teacher to a union teacher who obviously can’t teach children, since kids are failing tests by a bunch. Other countries are teaching their children better than we are & with all the money that we’ve given to schools for the “children’s” sake, they keep failing. I‘m beginning to think it’s because of bad UNION teachers.
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:43pmUnions… they will burn in hell!
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:33pmwhy don’t you just burn them at the stake now?
Report Post »conservative510
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:33pmMy union is continually selling us down the river while fattening their own wallets. Thanks IA!
Report Post »pwatkins
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:42pmWake up America! Thankful this guy lived to tell his story, but would be more thankful if those God-fearing, country-loving Americans left in Washington DC would also stand up and join us in saving this great nation we call the USA.
Report Post »Rick_K
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:39pmhttp://www.myfoxal.com/story/15273318/lambertville-vandalism-turns-life-threatening?clienttype=printable
Strange that its FOX Alabama that picks up this story and I could find nothing about it on clickondetroit.com MyFoxDetroit.com, MLive.com… but yet this is a Michigan story.
Also this has been standard union operating procedure for years.
Report Post »Again, if unions are so great, then why is membership not optional?
discardofevil
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:37pmObama and his thufsnare so Proud! They have to use violence and lies to win anything!
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:37pm12 Gauge… don’t leave home without it!!
Report Post »ColtAnaconda
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 3:08pmor your Beretta Px4 Storm 45.
Report Post »mobynowak
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:36pmI guess certain types of jobs are simply owned by certain kinds of people.
Report Post »LARR
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:30pmAnd beyond the “we don’t encourage any viloence” – Wonder what ANY democrat/union thug will have to say?
Report Post »LARR
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:29pmToo bad that can’t be the new “hate” crime. Union thug attacks someone who is non-union simply for being non-union gets an extra spanking at sentencing time..
Report Post »rockstone
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:29pmIt’s on folks.
Report Post »NOBALONEY
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:29pmThugs and killers!
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:27pmIt’s their way or the highway.
Report Post »luvtheright
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:26pmNo doubt a “union thug”!
INCREASE THE IQ OF AMERICA — throw a LIBERAL out of office!!
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:24pmBusiness owners and the public are NOT stupid…if you want the work done, DON’T hire union!…hopefully this guy doesn’t have anymore trouble, but I wouldn’t bet on it…so far what I see the unions are a bunch of lazy thugs.
Report Post »An AmericanMom
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:34pmVery true….send a message….Unions are not needed now….back in the day their cause was for the betterment of the worker…..not any more!
Report Post »randy
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:21pmLock and load people.
Report Post »It’s coming to a town near you sooner tan you think….
First shot fired by Obamas Civilian Union Thug Army
southerngal
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:25pmGlock and load you mean.
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