‘Send Me a Copy’: MSNBC‘s Chris Matthews Fans ‘Birther’ Flames
- Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:06pm by
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Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie recently announced that he was offended by the so-called “birther” movement and would try to publicly release President Barack Obama’s birth certificate — whether the White House wants him to or not — in an attempt to finally put the debate to rest:
“It’s not up to the President. It has nothing to do with the President,” Abercrombie told CNN’s Ed Henry Monday. “This has to do with the people of Hawaii who love him. People who loved his mom and dad. This has to do with respect to the office of the president that he’s entitled to and it has to do with the respect that every single person’s mother and father are entitled to.”
As the movement calling for the president’s birth certificate has gained some ground, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews fanned the flames of the debate Monday as he encouraged President Obama to send him a copy of the birth certificate and put an end to the “manufactured controversy once and for all:




















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bookofwisdom
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:12pmWell, it almost sounds to me like his parents may not have been married and the people of Hawaii don’t want to embarrass him or his parents. Bull Hockey. Just more smoke and mirrors. Like everyone else, I just don’t think I would believe it authentic if it was presented now. And how can one person speak for an entire state. Most of the people living in Hawaii probably don’t even remember his parents. May God Bless.
Richio
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:11pmSearch WorldNetDaily. There’s a lawsuit which may actually be heard by the Supreme Court.
Report Post »I suspect this will be an effort to defuse the case before it’s heard.
Ironmaan
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:10pmI personally believe he is a U.S. citizen, and I think you “birthers” have taken the bait. They want you to focus on this red herring as they go about destroying this country with their anti-American policies. Quit wasting time on this “road to no where” issue and get to the business of attacking his policies and the pathetic legislators that keep advancing their socialist agenda. http://guerillatics.com
Report Post »Plankchapel
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 11:37pm@IRONMAN
You have not done your homjework!
Report Post »WLolli
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 11:54pmI have no doubt BHO is an American citizen. But naturalized citizens are ineligible for the office of POTUS. A dual-citizen at birth is a naturalized citizen at birth, by law. Dual citizens are not Natural Born citizens, since an NBC is one born of two citizen parents. The only exception is for citizens born at the time of the founding– see Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5. All other citizen types are constructed by Congressional powers, see Article 1 Section 8
Report Post »Lucy Larue
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 3:35pmIronmaan
First let me say that the irony of Chrissy Matthews being a “BIRTHER” while not admitting it is BIG!
Now…,this is the deal. I have a lot of common sense. I ask myself WHY my President has hired lawyers and spent beaucoup bucks NOT to release his Birth Certificate. And it is not just his birth certificate. He “AIN’T” releasin‘ nothin’! Why Ironmaan? Why?
You are very cavalier in telling us all to move on. There’s nothing to see here.
I think that there is something to see.
I do not care if it turns out that Barry Dunham was born in Hawaii just like he says. He probably was.There‘s STILL something that isn’t KOSHER.
He is our President. Why would he spend so many millions to keep ALL of his records secret?
Report Post »It’s not because he failed Political Science.
patriot4evah
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:06pmEveryone knows a certificate of live birth, is not a birth certificate.
Report Post »ltb
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 12:05amMost people don‘t understand that he’s only released a Certificate of Live Birth and not his actual Birth Certificate, nor do they know that he’s spent almost $2 million trying to prevent the release of his Birth Certificate.
Report Post »Pawsupday
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:00pmThuo is just setting the stage that all illegal DON’T have to show their paper. Look at what the WH & AG are doing to AZ for those people to prove they can be here. Let one Thug in …..let them all in! Way to go Thugo ….your time is almost up….2012
Report Post »Tri-ox
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:59pmAny question asked of our failed “president” equals a “manufactured controversy” in the tiny minds of his supporters. Since when is it wrong to ask questions of our leaders and demand answers? Had more Americans asked questions and demanded answers during the 2008 election cycle, America would not be in the dire situation we find ourselves in today. As for this new idiot-democrat-governor; with all of the problems facing the State of Hawaii today, why is he planning on wasting time and tax dollars on an issue that is none of his business and outside the scope of his duties?
Report Post »Reagan/DeMint.deciple
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 10:21amBecause liberalism is a mental disorder…
Report Post »red penny
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:58pmRegardless of where the Chief Fool was born he’s still a sorry “SOB” and always will be.If “BUCKWHEAT” has nothing to hide then release the damn documents and put the questions to rest.
PatriotDaze
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:20pmRed Penny Neck.
Report Post »YaDarnTootin
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 7:37amThis President bugs the crap out of me Not because he may or may not be a citizen, not because he is black/half black, but because he is a Muslim Loving, spreading the wealth SOCIALIST and He is ruining my Country! BS or BO…. He and his Party STINK! Wifey too!
Report Post »cosette
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 3:54pm@yerdarntootin- Ditto to what that guy said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Beckaj
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:57pmI like Bill Cunningham’s idea of how to get the U.S. out of debt by selling Hawaii to the Chinese. We wouldn’t miss that state at all.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:55pmIt’s not who you know, it’s who you blow. What a coincidence that he happened to hang out with the President and now he holds office. He doesn’t want to show his birth certificate because as soon as he does, he will be impeached. Then we should hold all that is accountable for hiding the truth from us should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Well that won’t work because Holder would preside over the trial. It would never get to trial. We’re screwed big time.
Report Post »AFVET
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 1:53pmDoes Holder trump congress ?
Report Post »The new congress could be Obamas worst nightmare.
Along with Pelosi and Reid.
You know,…those supposedly ‘in the know’.
scott2012
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:55pmI may be wrong but I think the only qualifications to be POTUS
Report Post »is that you are a natural born citizen of this country and be 35 years
old! How could he have been allowed to run without proof of citizenship?
patriot4evah
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:05pmBecause the whole system is corrupt. Harvard grad is not even a requirement in the constitution, but according to the media.. THEY decide who is eligible based on their education.
Report Post »Plankchapel
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 11:09pm@ SCOTT2012
Obama/Soetoro was not vetted by Congress, the Democratic National Committee, the Electoral College, any state or county party or secretary of state. That’s how.
His mother did not meet residency OR age requirements in Hawaii to pass her U.S. citizenship to her son. That makes him an illegal alien if he has not applied for U.S. citizenship.
What is posted on the Internet is a CertificaTION of Live Birth, not a CertificaTE of Live Birth. A BIRTH certificate is different from a live birth from anywhere BEING certified.
Am I the only one who has noticed that everytime something major comes up about his eligibility to be POTUS, Obama/Soetoro goes to Hawaii? What’s so bad about Obama/Soetoro’s past that he spends over $2 milllion to keep it HIDDEN, when he “has the most TRANSPARENT administration” ever? The man is hiding something, and the House of Representatives has subpoena power!!!
On January 5, we must get on the phones and demand an investigation of Terry Lakin’s court martial and demand the paperwork on the man probably usurping the office of POTUS!
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 12:18amAm I the only one who has noticed that everytime something major comes up about his eligibility to be POTUS, Obama/Soetoro goes to Hawaii?
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Remember when the issue of his birth certificate came up during th elections?
he immediately jumped on his plane and flew to HI saying that his grandma was dying ( the missus and kids didn’t go with him ) and then poof, the typical white person was gone ….hmmmm
cosette
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:54pmIf the truth ever comes out and the buffoon in chief is removed from office there will be a NATIONWIDE race riot of biblical proportions. This is the dirty little secret no one wants to talk about. I am convinced this is WHY this interloper was allowed to get by this long without having to prove his citizenship a CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENT!!!!!!!!
Report Post »beebacksoon
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:16pmRace riot between who? Blacks and Black? Blacks and Muslims? Blacks and Whites (don’t think so). Com’on.
Report Post »cosette
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 11:04amRemember the Rodney King riots? That kind……… Violent destruction and general mayhem committed by illogical angry mobs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 DUH!!!!
Report Post »flagbearer
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:54pmOh, my…and LTC Lakin is now in prison after merely wanting to see the bc the Hawaiians are going to “produce” it? I don’t think we have to worry about global warming. It’s global madness we need to be concerned about.
Report Post »BigBouy
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:53pmWhere there is smoke, there is fire.
Report Post »balrog
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:52pmwe need to show our birth certificare to get a drivers license or enter public schools but not the highest public office in the world??? is curious george better than everyone else and able to brush this off???i bet a republican would never get away with …i resent having to show my id all the time but have to all over the place…u cant even have a drink or a meal in the restaurants around here without showing id and im obviously way over 21 maybe if i was a minority or a muslim millionaire i wouldnt have to..or maybe he has diplomatic immunity..
Report Post »cstcomputers
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:48pmWhat a joke! What a joke! You guys are nuts…
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:58pmYou people have reached a new low. The President of the United States is a citizen and it doesn’t matter what he shows all of you because you are never going to believe it. Why, because he is black – a black man is living in your White House and it really get under your skin – you just can’t stand it. This is what uneducated people do when they don’t like the laws as they are written. They come up with all these conspiracy theories that do more damage to the country that Barack Obama could ever do!!
Report Post »stopprintn
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 11:04pmHow can he be a black man if he is 1/2 white ?? This has nothing to do with race ,……..lib-tards..
Report Post »wash1776
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 11:30pm@WALKWITHME 1966: If people that don’t agree with you have reached a new low in your opinion, you are right down here with the rest of us. We are against him because he is black? Another clown that plays the race card. While there may undoubtedly be some who feel that way—most of the whites DON’T. You show your prejudice and ignorance by making that accusation. To tell people that they are uneducated when they don’t like the law is really dipping into the poison ink for the poison pen. Calling people that don’t believe Obama was born in Hawaii as being conspiracy theorists is juvenile at best. NO ONE COULD DO MORE DAMAGE THAN WHAT OBAMA HAS DONE TO THIS COUNTRY.Since you are such a champion of his, why don’t you apply for a job in the white house? You have no genuine idea if he is truly a citizen or was born in Kenya. His own grandmother said she was present at his birth and that is where Obama was born. Trying coming up with some proof and stop insulting everyone who doesn’t believe as you do. PITIFUL!
Report Post »lauster
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 6:34amI guess the guy (and all the lefties) who sued John McCain for his BC in 2008 hated him for being a black man too right?
Even if it all came out, they’d make an amendment, for fear that the “people” would riot and burn down the whole damn country!
Report Post »Reagan/DeMint.deciple
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 10:10am@WALKOFFAPIER1966… Back to the racist thing, huh? Doesn’t even phase me anymore, you leftist‘s are the one’s that look like total idiots when you declare us racist.. I’ll tell you what, come up with something new because that racist crap is as old as you great grandma’s underwear..
Report Post »cstcomputers
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:47pmHe hung out with the Obamas? WOW, and Hawaii just elected him as Governor How crazy are those people over there? What the Hell has happened to this country? Obama’s mother was a slut and his dad was a Marxist. JEEZZZ! We are doomed…
Report Post »CatB
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 12:00amCut it out! Cut it out! Cut it out! The hell’s the matter with you? Stupid! We’re all very different people. We’re not Watusi. We’re not Spartans. We’re Americans, with a capital ‘A’, huh? You know what that means? Do ya?
That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world.
We are the wretched refuse. We’re the underdog. We’re mutts! Here’s proof: his nose is cold! But there‘s no animal that’s more faithful, that’s more loyal, more loveable than the mutt. Who saw “Old Yeller?” Who cried when Old Yeller got shot at the end?
*sarcastically* Nobody cried when Old Yeller got shot? I’m sure.
[hands are reluctantly raised]
I cried my eyes out. So we’re all dogfaces, we’re all very, very different, but there is one thing that we all have in common: we were all stupid enough to enlist in the Army. We’re mutants. There’s something wrong with us, something very, very wrong with us. Something seriously wrong with us – we’re soldiers. But we’re American soldiers!
We’ve been kicking ass for 200 years!
We’re 10 and 1! Now we don’t have to worry about whether or not we practiced. We don’t have to worry about whether Captain Stillman wants to have us hung. All we have to do is to be the great American fighting soldier that is inside each one of us. Now do what I do, and say what I say. And make me proud.
John Winger (Bill Murray) Stripes (1981)
Let’s make John proud!
Report Post »Philo Beddoe
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:47pmDoesn’t Abercrombie look like Bill Ayers?
People that loved his mother and father? Where, in Seattle, Indonesia, Chicago or Hawaii?
What Barry was loved? Barry Soetoro, Barry Dunham , wasn’t Barak obamDUH, he changed that when he came to the mainland. Who loved barry, barky? Larry Sinclair?
Why has barky spent $2 miilion to hid this information?
Report Post »SND97
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:45pmWHY is it so wrong we ask anyone who runs to show they are legit? I don’t care what party or person, hell we have to show ID and birth and school records when applying, right?
Report Post »Eblaze44
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:16pmYep, for those that live in Florida – just wait until you have to renew your drivers license. But it requires no proof of citizenship even to be elected president. so much for the Constitution and the Rule of Law.
Report Post »beebacksoon
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:28pmEBLAZE44 – U R correct. I live in FL and not only do you have to provide birth certificate, and SS#, but divorce papers (if recently divorced); and a copy of a utility bill with your name on it, when renewing or obtaining driver’s license. So, is there any wonder why the criminals (ya know, the ones that break the laws of the land) never get a driver’s license; bank account; or auto insurance?????????
Report Post »beebacksoon
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:45pmYeah, right, Chris. Do you really think ANYONE will receive the actual, TRUE document? The gov. can make any doc appear to be authentic. He LOVES OBAMA!
Report Post »Do you still get that thrill up your leg over Obama, Chris, or have you finally realized he is a fake and puppet (manipulated by his wife, and czars)?
1TrueOne55
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 10:13pmWhat about his applications for Student Aide in College???? That would be one form of proof as to how he thinks of himself.
I am the Son of an Army NCO that married an Austrian woman in Europe in 1952 on French soil since the base near my birth had no hospital. I have both French and American Birth Certificates (maybe if they are not lost) and to make things even stickier, while working for Boeing Corporation I had to get a security clearance and it took nearly a year to clean up the mess that some military admin specialist created by not filing out the proper forms, I wonder what he was thinking? was he prejudice against my mothers country of origin???? Hard to say since we had just won the War in Europe and were still “occupying” most of it at the time my parents were married.
But I think the Law applies to either parent if they are a US Citizen under the constitution. But I will have to research further…
Report Post »ThoreauHD
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:45pmI didn‘t know a Daily Kos photoshop wasn’t proof of naturalized birth. You mean I can’t use that on my security clearance?
Report Post »Barry Soetoro
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 8:19amA naturalized citizen is one not born on U.S. soil and not having at least one U.S. citizen parent, but later made a citizen by law.
Constitutional eligibility for only the office of President, uniquely requires one to be a “natural born citizen” meaning “one born in the country of two citizen parents.” Both parents need to be U.S. citizens and the child must be born on U.S. soil. If either condition is not met, one is not a “natural born citizen” eligible to serve as President.
California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is a naturalized citizen. He meets neither condition for being a “natural born citizen.”
Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal was born on U.S. soil shortly after his parents arrived in the U.S. from India. At the time of his birth, both his parents were not naturalized U.S. citizens. Therefore Governor Jindal meets one, but not both conditions of being a “natural born citizen.”
Senator John McCain was born of two U.S. citizen parents. At the time of his birth, his parents resided on a U.S. military base in the Panama Canal zone. United States military installations are considered U.S. soil, similar to a U.S. embassy. If he was born on a U.S. military base, he would meet both conditions of being a “natural born citizen.” However, if he was born off base at a Panamanian hospital then he would meet one, but not both conditions, required to qualify as a “natural born citizen” eligible to serve as President.
U.S. Constitution, Article 14, Section 1:
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside…”
John Bingham, the primary author, intended the Fourteenth Amendment in part, to define and provide citizenship to emancipated slaves during the reconstruction period. Because they were not made citizens at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, generations thereafter could not claim to have at least one U.S. citizen parent to qualify for citizenship. It’s interesting to note that Representative Bingham never intended this amendment to serve as a basis of citizenship to foreigners, who would otherwise have to apply for naturalization to become a naturalized U.S. citizen.
U.S. Constitution – Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5:
“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President…”
U.S. Constitution – Article 1, Section 2:
“No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen…”
U.S. Constitution – Article 1, Section 3:
“No person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen…”
Only the President is required to be a “natural born citizen.“ Representatives and Senators are just required to be a ”citizen.”
The reason for this is clearly evident in the written history of the Constitutional Convention.
“Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expresly that the Command in chief of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.” —John Jay, Founding Father and first Supreme Court Chief Justice writing to George Washington, at the Constitutional Convention, July 25, 1787.
The Constitution clearly tells us that a “citizen” is not equal to, but is one of two components required to be, a “natural born citizen.”
My father was a British colonial Kenyan. The British Nationality Act of 1948 conferred my fathers’ British citizenship to me at birth, no matter where I was born. Neither foreigners or duel citizens are eligible to be President.
Furthermore, irrespective of my citizenship, whether it’s British, Kenyan, Indonesian, American or any combination of these, I’m further disqualified because I don’t have TWO U.S. citizen parents. Therefore, I do not meet both conditions of a “natural born citizen” required by the Constitution to be eligible to serve as President.
Why Obama is ineligible – regardless of his birthplace
Report Post »By Leo C. Donofrio, Esq.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=134881
The1776er
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:38pm“manufactured controversy”, eh? It is a legitimate concern; he hasn’t shown his certificate! If he would just show it, then there wouldn’t be a problem. The fact that he hasn’t shown it is what raises suspicion.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:57pmMSNBC’s Chris Matthews fanned the flames of the debate Monday as he encouraged President Obama to send him a copy of the birth certificate and put an end to the “manufactured controversy once and for all:
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Looks like Hussain’s BC has been manufactured and is ready for release.
Looks like Pi$$y wants it released on his show exclusively as a reward for his services rendered to Hussain ( he even forgot for an hour that Hussain was black, for ONE FULL HOUR …who else has done that ?)
Tingle legs, tingle legs, tingle all the way
Barry Soetoro
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 1:45amConstitutional eligibility for only the office of President, uniquely requires one to be a “natural born citizen” meaning one born in the country of two citizen parents. Both parents need to be U.S. citizens and the child must be born on U.S. soil. If either condition is not met, one is not a natural born citizen eligible to serve a President.
grandmaof5
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:38pmAnd would I believe what they produced? Probably not since they were obviously paid (or threatened), along with all the schools Obama attended, not to release any records. Wikileaks could have done Obama and the populous a favor by leaking all of Obama’s records and putting this to rest, but alas, they chose security issues instead. At some point we will get the truth – someone will be greedy and want to make millions off the info.
Report Post »beebacksoon
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:08pmHey, I don’t care if someone steps up for greed or their 15 min of fame…we know the truth, let’s see it!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:36pmLet’s see it…. I agree … how much has he spent to hide it .. this shows that we have not seen it .. even though we were told we had.
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:01pmSo to get some permits from the city I have to produce lots of documents & proofs but to be elected as President of the USA …………………………it doesn’t matter .
Report Post »CatB
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 11:40pmPretty much .. and in Florida (one of the test states) for a renewal of your drivers license you need not only a birth certificate but for women who have married and perhaps divorced and married again .. you need all the marriage and divorce records! Even if you have had a FL drivers license for the past 40 years if you have ever changed your name you need proof. Don’t think old Barry will be able to meet these requirements if it comes to his drivers license .. Barry Soetoro?
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 10:26amThe only logical theory in my opinion:
He was born in America, but his real father is Frank Marshall Davis. It’s why he was shipped to Hawaii to have a “black mentor” as a child.
Maybe it was a case of “time to meet your real dad”?
Look at Davis. He looks very similar to Obama. Same forehead, hairline, ears, nose, mouth, chin… now look at Obama’s “father”. He looks nothing like him.
So Obama isn’t legally unfit to serve, technically… but having a commie father certainly looks bad. There’s your motive. It also makes sense why he was hauled to the top by communist radicals. He‘s the offspring of one of their 60’s heroes.
Report Post »byehlik
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:35pmHe can’t send a copy! He is not eligable because his father is not a US citizen. Usurper and Chief would be ousted. Be Prepaired.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:54pmCongratulations, BYHLIK! The Blaze comment section has a new Official Poster Child. Wow.
Report Post »Xcori8r
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 10:35pmOooohhh… I got Crissytingles all up and down my legs at the thought of arrest, law nullification, appointment invalidation and expulsion of the VP and cabinet… and more!
I need to just lay back now and have a cigarette
Report Post »wash1776
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 11:13pm@BARRY SOETORO: Why don’t you quit acting like the president. What makes you thing anyone here cares about your nonsense. We don’t need Obama #2. If that is what you want to be, get a job at the white house.
Report Post »standswithafist
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 11:31pmhis father was a british citizen at the time i read somewhere with a dual kenyan status. this has been fascinating. the question is if he does release one now……. why now?
Report Post »JohnLocke
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 11:34pmtorrent: http://88.80.16.63/file/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser.pdf
Report Post »Reagan/DeMint.deciple
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 9:33am@ BARRY SOETORO… What a waste of time writing that book, I got as far as “let me be clear” ..
Report Post »Reagan/DeMint.deciple
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 9:54am@ARMEDPATRIOT.. LMFAO.. Yeah , it’s all about the transparency .. You know, this was suppose to be a campain promise ( another one forgotten) that his administration was going to be the most transparent … BULL S# !T….
Report Post »Reagan/DeMint.deciple
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 10:24am@BROKENUTZ.. Into stalking now, huh? hows that list going ?
Report Post »balrog
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:35pmthey have had plenty of time to falsify all the records all the way back to keynesia and indonesia with soros money
Fletch
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:44pmAbercrombie made this an issue now for a reason … he is not one to be ‘disloyal’
get ready for a dog an pony show
cheezwhiz
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:47pm“This has to do with the people of Hawaii who love him. People who loved his mom and dad. This has to do with respect to the office of the president that he’s entitled to and it has to do with the respect that every single person’s mother and father are entitled to.”
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Yet dems had no problem DEMANDING John McCain’s birth records. Right ?
Report Post »And he even showed it to them .
So John McCain’s parents and grandparents are not worthy and entitled to any respect ?
joseph Fawcett
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:53pmquit talking and get acting, produce it and let us see the real thing, then lets compare it to others and to the one in Kenya. Lets get this issue over and done with once and for all and quit talking about it.
http://www.josephfawcettart.com western artist
Curator_JDR
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:00pmIts not all fake and cleared with Obama’s consent? This is a brazen crew that wants to cow us into submission. Its time to LAUGH AND RIDICULE the Progressives into silence and seize back control of America for We The People.
Just released. An Animated Short Feature Film “A Not So Grimm Fairy Tale” ………… Political Satire without the restraint of correctness. Synopsis: The people of “Hairmerica” were mislead into believing a totalitarian political machine. They awaken and take back their nation from the grip of Sorge Goros and Nancy Poles-i-don’t-see with the assistance of Ms. Bearah Sailin and her grizzly bear clan. Its LOL
http://www.marcrubin.com/hairmerica.ivnu
Report Post »BMartin1776
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:11pmEnough on this he is US born. Birthers are beating a dead horse wake up and look into things that are right in front of you.
The bigger question they and TOO many others have ignored is what is his legal name!!!!!??? Was it legally changed when he lived in Indonesia after his mother remarried and he was allegedly adopted by Lolo Soetoro? When that marriage failed and he returned back to the US to live with his grandparents was the name legally changed back to BHO? Whats the big deal on this some are wondering?
If his name was in fact legally changed to Barry Soetoro and never changed back to his birth name Barack ObamaII then he is in fact committing identity fraud every time he signed his name BHO! It would send this country into a tailspin as everything he has done would be void.
This is a Capone angle no one is looking into!
http://www.savingtherepublic.com
Report Post »wbalzley
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:15pmLet me propose yet another CRAZY theory…
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WHAT IF it turns out that Obama is NOT elligible, and what if that information were to be released to the public? Would that fit into Glenn Beck’s theory that George Sorros is trying to orchestrate the downfall of America? Would that serve his Radical Progressive agenda?–Absolutely!
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Create an election crisis, and cry FRAUD. Stir up discontent at the bottom, and then bring the top crashing down…
AmericanSoldier
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:16pmI don‘t get why they wouldn’t release it period. I’m no Birther but I do believe that the courts set the wrong precedent in case of what a natural born citizen is. Through my readings, I always understood the term natural born citizen not to mean that the person was necessarily born within the borders of our country but that both parents were American citizen thus their child would be born an American citizen regardless of where they were physically in the world. This stemmed from diplomats that would travel with their family and in those days travel could mean years. So a diplomat who was over seas with the wife, who then gave birth was still under the jurisdiction of the USA as far as citizenship goes.
So could an anchor baby become POTUS? He was born on American soil, right? In my understand, no, he couldn’t, because his parents were under the jurisdiction of their home country.
Even if President Obama was born in Hawaii, if his father was not an American citizen, he shouldn’t be considered a natural born citizen. He may be a native born citizen but not natural.
Report Post »Xcori8r
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:19pmWhat’s the big deal? Minorities only need a couple utility bills to vote. Why burden them with more to become President?
Report Post »guyperram
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:39pmamericansoldier: You have it correct. The courts rulings were that Both parents had to be American, either born here, or naturalized. He was, and is, not eligible, under those rulings, to have run for president. His father was a Kenyan citizen, not American.
Report Post »What difference it makes if he shows his birth certificate may be that it shows the above fact. Otherwise, why not show it?
The bad news would be if the Attorney General actually did his job (do not hold your breath) Biden would become President, unless he, and everyone else responsible for the cover up was indicted, in which case maybe the head cook at the White House may become our new commander in chief. The cook could probably do a better job, and most likely isn’t a Marxist.
Barry Soetoro
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:43pmCaveat to prior post:
Leo Donofrio is the author of the article referenced by the link:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=134881
Mr. Donofrio is not posting here under the pseudonym of Barry Soetoro
Mark Twain.
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:47pmyou know i tried to watch this clip but just couldn’t stand these morons, 1.) they are doing everything humanly possible not to release the document including legislative changes to new certificates to the social security #, it speaks volumes to us Veterans he would Rather Let a 18+ Veteran Like Terry Lakin Go to jail then cough the document up. lastly when 43% say they dont know its pretty clear theres a problem with OBAMA (20 say no 23 say dont know =43%
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:51pmThe CZAR of DIVERSION is at work again!!!!
Imagine this: Call Gov Neil and have him give interview to CNN (ClintonNews) Bring up my birth certificate…The Birthers will go crazy Maybe TingleChrissy will drool over this The diversion you ask? Oh you know,every crisis/controversy opts a great campaign NUDGE…..Still confused? EASY Neil has to bring up my parents and what great people they were Ya Know PUT the SPIN on it Dad in his glasses,smoking a pipe…etc
Think about it but really THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX
Report Post »Happy 2011
NoRoomForSocialismHere
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 10:00pmSo Hawaii is officially Communist…because BoBo’s mammy and daddy are communist in fact they left him to be good communist in others lands and he is taking it out on Americans while sending OUR barrowed tax money to KENYA, the land of his father, mother, and all of those that came before them.
I won’t believe a documnet that has taken this long to produce. They have had time to doctor every file and document in BOTH of his names.
Report Post »NoRoomForSocialismHere
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 10:06pmHe’s back under a new name as we had him removed:
@Curator_JDR Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:00pm
http://www.marcrubin.com/hairmerica.ivnu
Report Post »NoRoomForSocialismHere
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 10:09pm@@@@wbalzley Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:15pm
Report Post »Let me propose yet another CRAZY theory…
STOP!
You are the CRAZY theory idiot. Crawl back under soros desk
Beckofile
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 10:11pmThe Birth Cert is not the only issue when talking about citizenship. When he went to Indonesia he had to renounce his US Citizenship because back then they would not let a US citizen attend school. Upon reentry he became a naturalized citizen which is not eligible for the office of President. I would like it if the Bamster could just release all the docs?
Report Post »NoRoomForSocialismHere
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 10:16pm@@@@wbalzley Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:15pm
What if?
Report Post »IF?
Could it?
Maybe?
You sound like you are a Soros paid propaganda host on msnbc.
Lets see Maddcow, Maphews, Sgt Schultz, Larry the Socialist O’donnell all have the same what ifs and maybe scenarios. Just making the best you can while creating a lethal fairy tale or is that fairy-tail
CultureWarriors
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 10:42pmwbalzley : The answer is : Everything he signed into law would be null and void. Joe Biden would at least temporarily be President. And many of us would demand that since he knew he was ineligible, he should be prosecuted for fraud.
Report Post »wash1776
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 11:07pm@BARRY SOETORO: That is the biggest crock of crap about the Obama birth certificate I have ever heard. He was born in Kenya and his own grandmother has made that statement. She was present at the birth. The last phony birth certificate on obama in Hawaii had the wrong border on it proving that it was a fake. I don’t know if that was corrected yet with another phony one.. Obama has spent over $1million at last count to hide the truth. That information was on the internet several months ago before this became such an issue. One of the sites was Judicial Watch that was trying to get documentation through the FOIA. They were foiled at every turn. I believe the Heritage Foundation also had something online then too but don’t remember for sure. I had the information stored on my computer at one time but the computer crashed due to a bad storm and the information was lost along with everything else. No doubt you were paid to sound like Obama but that post is total garbage.
Report Post »TheBMT
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 11:48pmWhile interesting… Events like this are the dog and pony show to distract us from what is going on.
Report Post »WLolli
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 11:48pmI have been a volunteer researcher for 2yrs on different lawsuits regarding BHO’s eligibility. The release of the original COLB will aide in providing more clues about his eligibility. As it now stands, by his own declaration, his is not born of two American citizen parents, and thus is not Natural Born. If he was born in HI by his American mother, that makes him Naturalized at Birth. Google Kerchner v Obama for full legal and historical research.
Report Post »Aldo_the_Apche
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 11:53pmno one is falsifying anything its the principal no other pres has had to show proof
birthers its time to drop it i mean i hate obama i mean HATE he is a socialist pos but honestly he WAS born here but his ideals and values come from his father (far from american values) just read his book dreams of my father.
all in all if he gets thrown out of office it should happen cause he is a revolutionary who wants to destroy capitalism and the free market not cuz he wasn’t born here
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 11:56pmHe doesn’t have time…..does he have a staff? He doesn’t have time to utter the words “release my birth certificate”. I am not birther but Obama is the one making this a story. Why?
Report Post »Cobra Blue
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 12:30amFolks let’s move along..This is just another distraction coming from the WH. You and I both know the power brokers in conjunction with the media will not let anything happen to the man child. There are bigger fish to fry right now. This whole issue of the Birth Certificate is a non-issue. Nothing will ever come of it. Move along.
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 12:55amI know we say that this is small fry compared to most things but it is a part of the Constitution, quiet honestly, a pretty big part of the Constitution. I won’t argue that he was born in Hawaii, the problem is if he is a natural born citizen, that’s where the true argument lies.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 1:58amAnd we should believe Chris Matthews because we all know that he has head on straight. And there goes a pink elephant across the road.
Report Post »staythecourse
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 3:29ambmartin1776 .. I brought up that issue I believe it was last year…with a number of different conservative organizations. I think Liberty Central was one of them. All I got was a gentle “chuckle” back from them. But I really do think it is an issue. He took the oath of office as BHO and he signs his name as BHO and he went to school as BHO… BUT did he ever change his name??? I really don’t think he would have felt that it was that important. But he did have the name of sorento and it was a legal name and not changing it legally back to BHO is problematic…. legally speaking. And yes, it would nullify everything…including all of the voting on behalf of a BHO as opposed to a BS. (I just realized why he must have changed his name. Never saw that before but his initials for his name is….‘bs’ … how appropriate. )
Report Post »*************************
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 3:57amHey, Chris Matthews, don’t sweat it! Here, let me pick up your slack (so you can get back to your TV show).
from a YouTube video -
Nobarack08 Weblog (all about Obama’s U.S. frauds)
http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/
http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/the-adoption-of-obama/
from DREAMS FROM MY FATHER: “I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites. … I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race. … I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
The Obama File (all about “The Man Who Never Was”)
http://theobamafile.com/
“Obama has had the finest possible education. Nobody knows how it was financed or what his grades were. His academic records are all sealed and he has an army of lawyers making sure they remained sealed.”
“Barack Obama was born of Marxists; mentored by a communist writer and activist during his formative years; spent his college days hanging around radical activists; worked as a radical community organizer … A ‘community organizer’ is an agitator — a rabble-rouser.”
AP declares Obama Kenyan-Born (And 2008 AP Story Repeats the Claim)
http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/ap-declares-obama-kenyan-born/
“What most people know is that the Associated Press (AP) is one of the largest, internationally recognized, syndicated news services. … in a syndicated report, published Sunday, June 27, 2004, by the Kenyan Standard Times, … ‘Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.’”
The mixed-race Kenyan called Barack Hussein Obama, A.K.A. Barry Obama, A.K.A. Barry Soetoro (that’s right, illegal alien).
http://www.obamacrimes.com/
The OBAMACRIMES website (and the lawsuits to force the production of Obama/Soetoro’s withheld birth certificate) “was created after research indicated that Barack Obama is not a ‘natural born’ citizen or a Citizen of the United States as required by the United States Constitution to be eligible for the Office of President.” -attorney Philip J. Berg (registered Democrat)
Report Post »NotWaiting4Godot
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 4:23amCorrect me if I’m wrong, but I recall that several of the early “birth” lawsuits included petitions to introduce Obama’s school and passport records into evidence? Is there anything embarrassing there?
More likely, Obama’s refusal to comply was merely an opportunity to poke his finger into the conservative eye. The money spent to defend against the ongoing suites did not come out of Obama’s pocket. Maybe his strategists saw an opportunity in the growing “birther” movement. Remain defiant and keep rattling the cage for 4 years. Then, just prior to the election, say “I’ve had enough” and finally produce the document. The “birther” movement would be soundly discredited. Obama could claim that his critics have been “calling wolf.” Nothing they’ve said or will say against Obama is worthy of being believed. He really is the chosen one, but his enemies have pulled out all stops to turn the public from the truth.
Presto! A tefflon President emerges.
If m
Report Post »Jerley
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 4:35am58% 20% 23% ?????? 101%??????
NewYorkTimes, CBS News and MSNBC are all unable to do simple math?
Report Post »VermontPatriot
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 5:00amOblahblah and his corrupt government can try anything they want….
Report Post »they’ll never get my vote. At this point I just want to see the POS
get impeached and fired.
avenger
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 6:04amyou bet ! more marxist lies to soothe the dummies and distract the public from the destruction of the USA and capitalism….
Report Post »justanamerican
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 7:12amFORGET THE BIRTH CERT !!! I wanna see the school/college records and the passport he traveled to the Middle east with!!!!!!!!!!! Therein lies the answer to the fraud and the scam……. A BC could easlily have been manufactured with all this time to create one. I guarantee Barry went to school in America as a “ foreign student”
Report Post »Anybody wanna bet?
Stuck_in_CA
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 7:15amStrange that with all the current talk in the news, that BO wouldn’t simply agree to release the BC. WHY wouldn’t he want to get this behind him?
Report Post »And while he’s at it, release his college records.
This whole thing could really backfire for them. One can only hope.
Armed Patriot
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 7:46amNotice how it is the Dems who usually bring this stuff up. I agree it is important but those days of being forthcoming are long gone. The most powerful govt in the world has had plenty of time to CREATE a false birth cert.
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 7:51am@ BMartin1776 If his name legally in fact is Barry Satero not bho, he is not committing fraud by using bho, as long as he retains the same identity and does not intend to commit fraud. I know as my name on my birth certificate is not the name I have ever gone by. It is known as aka.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 7:57amthese guys can cover up anything ! 911,enron,Agenda 21, Lucifer
Report Post »owns the media, fixing a good FAKE should be childs play.
Just another trick to make the Truthers look bad.
That is why Glen never touched it, he knew how easy it is
to Fake a birth certificate.
You Birthers were set up from the begining
I am more conserned that we have 3 Jewish supreme court Justices
and Scalia might be the fourth
http://100777.com/node/310
http://www.rense.com/general78/usuk.htm
swagger
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 8:25amThe President knows there is doubt amongst many Americans regarding his birthplace. As a “uniter,” it would be a simple gesture to end any questions and show the birth certificate. It is rather cruel and twisted to use this as a political issue and send his minions out to call fellow Americans “insane.”
Report Post »He works for me and as his employer, I want to see his birth certificate
sfelix44
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 9:03amI agree…At this point we will never know the truth. Washington “can” keep a secret.
Report Post »slickmeister
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 9:05amWhy not use this as an opportunity to mock the lamestream media for focusing on manufactured controversies instead of the real problems created by 2 years of Democrat control of government?
Report Post »Marcobob69
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 9:10amYou can bet that anything that was “afoul” has now been “corrected” as far as Barry’s birth certificate is concerned. Spooky dood’s money goes a long way toward fixing things that need fixing. We will NEVER be able to prove where Barry was born, not legally anyway.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 9:14amI don’t claim to know whether he is or is not a citizen. I DO know that Abercrombie,Obama, and the Dems should have investigated his legal status before he announced as a candidate. The lingering questions aren’t the fault of birthers, they’re the fault of anyone connected with Obama. There is no shortage of leftist’s out there who would have hidden his legal/illegal status. There is also no shortage of those who disrespect the Constitution/country to the point that they would place their agenda above something as silly as whether or not a person running for President is actually a US citizen.
Report Post »Reagan/DeMint.deciple
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 9:24amI don’t see what the big deal is… ??? We as American citizens, who by the way, they WORK for, have a RIGHT to know and see real proof of when and where this jackass was born. period..
Report Post »You know, I thought the COLB WAS an official document.. ?? And that said, then what is Ambercrombie’s agenda ? Aren’t we suppose to be satisfied with the COLB ? Good, open up that can of worms, and while you’re at it, lets see his college and medical records that they’re also hiding..
MOLLYPITCHER
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 9:37amI think it’s funny that the demonrats want to defend the honor of the office of the president now, but were ready to lob dumptrucks of crap at it when Bush was in office.
Report Post »oldoldtimer
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 9:46amThey can put out any document they can fabricate. The facts speak for themselves. Obamas father was a British citizen traveling on a British pass port. His mother was an under age mother(21 at that time but she was only 18) There were no anchor babies until after 1965 Immigration Act. Obama would have been a British citizens as per his father. Did his mothe apply for anfd get him Indonesian citizenship? Is that the reason his college records are locked up? It shows he was either a British or Indonesian citizen? D o we not have the right to know if we have an imposter in the office of POTUS? Oh. The left will try to shout us down and make all kinds of accusations and call us dirty =names but the facts speak for them selves . What is Obama hiding by not releasing his records? Why is Congress protecting him? Afraid of the repercussions? Why would any one even consider him for a second term without more disclosure?
Report Post »infidelamerican
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 9:50amglad to see they have made a public notice of their intentions so they have plenty of time to fabricate / forge a new birth cert.
Report Post »infidelamerican
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 9:52amthey have some expert white collar ID theives sitting in prision who could do the work for clemency
Report Post »pavnvet
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 10:26amWhy bring this up now when Obama is in Hawaii? Something is rotten in Denmark, excuse me, I mean Hawaii. Anyone that has paid attention to the issue of his failing to release his actual birth certificate, passport and college transcripts does not have to be a so-called “birther”, just be someone that doesn’t understand what there is to hide.
Report Post »Major Infidel
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 10:27amChris, you are an enemy of America, not just birthers.
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 10:40amNewspaper print from the week of his birth end the debate. He was born in Hawaii. Only real fools continue on this
Report Post »Sinista Mace
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 10:44amDo you really want to know that Obama is a human/reptilian hybrid…
I mean, really, does it even matter at this point, we’re surrounded by these reptilians.
Report Post »wdg
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 11:12amJust anothe SideShow to distract us from their agenda …stay focused on the use of executive orders coming in the next year….. and this clown now steps forward after two years to produce documents that by law should have been validated in all 50 states before a candidate gets put on the ballot! What a joke …. who’s the bigger clown Neil Abercrombie or Chris Matthews???
Report Post »White Devil
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 11:54amI agree with you 100%. The leader of the most powerful nation on earth has the power and technology to make a convincing birth certificate. If one apeared now, I wouldn’t believe it was real. Too late hot plate.
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 12:16pmjustanamerican : Very interesting. Good point!
Report Post »blacksmith
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 12:42pm58+23+20=? By my math the answer is 101%. The NYT has an editor problem the same as MSNBC. The progressives using flawed polls to beat the American people over the head for our ignorance. To get a government job I had to have a notarized copy of my birth certificate. I had a copy but that was not good enough. I don’t have to show anything to be president?
Report Post »monroeslb
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 3:10pmI never seen a guy give out so much crap. It is not so hard to prove where Obama was born. All he has to do is show his birth certificate, like any other citizen of the United States. If we are asked for our bursts certificates for a job or a government job we have to show it. This is total craziness for any law maker just to give a guy a pass because elected president of the United States by the people of the United States. It is unconstitutional, showed the dam burst certificate! That ends the question where he was born. Till that burst certificate is shown to the American people I will have my doubts about him being eligible to be president.
Report Post »Trance
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 4:41pmI bet he doesn’t release it after Obama gets ahold of him. Obama doesn’t want it released for very good reason. He wants as many Republicans making the claim he wasn’t born in America so they can argue that all Republicans are as stupid as the “birthers”.
Report Post »Blazergirl
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 9:14pm@Beckofile
Report Post »You are correct. As usual, the birth certificate issue is nothing but smoke and mirrors. I believe he was born in Hawaii. That being said, I would bet my own citizenship that while he was in Indonesia his stepfather and mother renounced his american status (after all he was only a child) inorder for Barry to attend school there. So really that is the issue. If one “natural born” citizen gives up his/her citizenship and later then choses to be “naturalized” again, Does he/she have the right to be an executive branch leader? Why isn’t any of the media including fox not investigating on this “theory”? Why hasn’t Obama admitted that while he lived in Indonesia that he was taught under the muslim religion? This is the kind of stuff that really upsets me. How can certain people get away with this kind of fraud? Is this why Obama and his Congress are so lenient on illegal immigrants? They are lying through omission!!! It’s still a lie. I’m sick and tired of being lie to. I want the truth and nothing but the truth. Enough already!
evilbert
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 10:50pmI think there will always be controversy over this issue even if there is a real birth certificate. People will always believe it was fabricated. BHO simply should not have tried to spend millions of dollars on preventing its release. That alone says he is hiding something which simply added fuel to the fire.
Bushmaster ACR:
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TRUTHSEEKINGAL
Posted on December 29, 2010 at 3:45amIs that Danny Devito ‘s brother sounding off ?
Report Post »JKN
Posted on December 29, 2010 at 9:48amThis new Governor of Hawaii happened to be good friends with Barack Obama’s parents… And we know absolutely nothing about Barack Obama! He has not showed any of his personal records: his long-form birth certificate, school papers, passport, even his medical records…
What’s the big mystery, President Obama? Why would you hire a team of lawyers at tax-paid expense to avoid showing your birth certificate? Why would you allow this issue to fester and grow?
Report Post »ELECTRICALSERV
Posted on December 29, 2010 at 1:12pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLDHDfPNBME , watch this and tell me what you think .
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