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‘You’ll Be Tarred and Feathered!’: Union Protesters Growing Desperate in Indiana

“For his final experiment in the conservative laboratory that is Indiana, Gov. Mitch Daniels is tinkering with a labor bill that could bring more jobs to the state, is guaranteed to bring massive labor protests to the Statehouse during the 2012 session and may temporarily shut down all other legislative business,” The Blaze reported earlier this month.

And make no mistake about it, Indiana is inching towards becoming a “right-to-work” state. However, as everyone expected, Republican lawmakers in the Hoosier state are meeting fierce opposition from Democrats and their union allies.

Watch union protesters erupt in protest on the House floor:

This was written on the video’s YouTube description:

Before the gavel even fell on the Indiana House Committee on Employment, Labor and Pensions, protestors erupted on the House Floor claiming everything under the sun you’d expect to hear from a union protestor including that the legislators were unpatriotic and dictators. One even called for legislators (presumably only the Republican members who voted for the bill) to be “tarred and feathered.”

But what were they so upset about?

“The latest development in the process came when the legislation cleared the House Employment, Labor and Pensions Committee and a first vote on amendments in the full body is scheduled for next Tuesday,” writes Jazz Shaw of Hot Air.

What does this mean? It means that if the measure clears the next round of voting, it could be passed into law, making it illegal for Indiana businesses and unions to negotiate contracts that require all workers to pay union fees.

Naturally, in a show of political acuity, Indiana House Democrats boycotted the chamber four out of the first five days of the 2012 session.

By the time they returned, they had missed the deadline for submitting amendments to the measure. Therefore, under Indiana House Rules, Committee Chairman Doug Gutwein — being within his rights — refused any Democrat amendments to the bill.

And that’s why they’re freaking out in the video.

However, if Democrats hadn’t staged a four-day walkout, “they would have been able to submit amendments to the Joint House and Senate Committee hearing last Friday,” writes Josh Gillespie of HoosierAccess reports.

“But in an utter disregard for anything remotely resembling a coherent thought, Minority Leader Pat Bauer and most of the Democrats walked out, preventing a quorum and preventing their participating in a hearing that lasted over five hours and produced quite a bit of testimony.”

Maybe now House Democrats will realize that it may be more useful to their cause to stick around and debate the issues.

Same protesters, different angle:

[Editor's note: Although the protesters have some great lines including, "This is a dictatorship!," we think the best line is at the 5:55 mark: "Does 'aye' mean 'yes'?"]

(H/T: Hot Air)

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  • Quagaar Warrior
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:23pm

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    Combine all unions together and you get, “Union Local 666”!
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    • Quagaar Warrior
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 8:56pm

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      U. seless
      N. on-producers
      I. sisting
      O. n
      N. ational
      S. ocialism!
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    • Captain Crunch
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 8:57pm

      Sweet Revenge.

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    • USAMEDIC3008
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 9:01pm

      Thay are 100% Right
      Our Government is being ran by a dictator

      Oblow is his nameo…

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    • Captain Crunch
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 9:05pm

      Prove it. Your attack on individual union workers is without basis. I know union workers who would work circles around someone with an attitude like that reflected in your post. I think you’re just jeolous.

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    • Quagaar Warrior
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 9:12pm

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      Wake up, Captain Crunch!
      The period in front of the “I” was to move it over for a better alignment between the other letters above and below. The space bar won’t do it.
      Besides, the message gets through either way and most real Americans approve of it.
      Too bad it offends un-American union drones.
      It sure seems to offend you!
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    • Quagaar Warrior
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 9:22pm

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      Hey Captain,
      It‘s obvious you’re a victim of the public school system. Have you ever heard of, “Spell Check”?
      It was developed by an intelligent, NON-union American.
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    • mr molotov cocktail
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 9:36pm

      tell me which right to work state has the highest wealth per capita…… only blue-state union states are wealthy… right to work means right to **** wage…
      us blue-staters pay out more welfare to red-states then they deserve
      what it costs to bring you services is just insane…. yes redstaters are the biggest takers…
      us blue-staters of sick of right to work states paying such low wages that people dont pay taxes…and then us blue-staters end up paying them for you….
      there is a not a single red-state that functions without massive amounts of blue-state welfare….
      you can hate on unions all day long… higher wages means more spend in the local economy..which in turn raises-the wages of everyone…
      i wish you stupid red-staters would just seccede— not a blue-state would fight you over it

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    • jimtrees
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 10:21pm

      As the girls used to say in nam. Good-bye Charlie!

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    • Electacon
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 11:09pm

      Mr. Molotov here is a link for you to look over http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/01/25/us/20090126-welfare-table.html There is one state on this list that absolutely dwarves the others when it comes to handing out welfare and food stamps. That state is deep blue.

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 11:12pm

      @Captain Crunch

      Prove it? Like you did? Fine – I know several lazy union workers.

      I was in a school bus assembly plant and had to wait 2 hours for a welder to come fix a broken weld joint. Was he busy? No, he stood there with me for 2 hours, because the union shop steward didn’t like the project leader, so he sat on the hot tag for 2 hours to slow down the job.

      I walked into a facility in Ohio to troubleshoot a parameter setting in a control system. I was warned repeatedly that I was not to touch any wires or any tools. If anything needed to be done, a union electrician would do whatever I told him to do.

      I was in a machinery producer’s plant in Detroit. I wasn’t allowed to touch anything mechanical, due to the union. I was assigned a worker “who will be with you all the time and do any work you need done”. I asked him to remove a guard so I could see why material was jamming up. He removed a single bolt, then left for 20 minutes, then proceeded to slowly remove the other bolts when I finally hunted him down. He moved at a snail’s pace, while he looked right in my eyes and whistled.

      I was in a tube manufacturing facility in Ohio, where we couldn’t get a machine operator to do anything. They’d disappear for 2 hours at a time. Maintenance ran the machines most of the time, because maintenance wasn’t part of the union and they were the only ones who WOULD DO A DARNED THING!

      Most union members I know are lazy thugs. They drink and do drugs

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    • crystlgib1
      Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:43am

      At Molotov…33 percent of ALL welfare recipients live in California while only 8 percent of the US population lives in California. Massachusetts, Tennessee, Maine, and Vermont round out the top 5 “welfare states” as a percentage of their population. The District of Columbia, New York, Minnesota, Washington , New Mexico and Indiana (in a tie) complete the top ten list.

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    • Captain Crunch
      Posted on January 13, 2012 at 2:02am

      Well atliest this is a better thread than the one Warrior originally started that got deleted. lol Careful who you take aim at…they just might shoot back. If you want to take shots at union leaderships and public sector unions, that’s fine, I’d probably agree with you. But when you take cheap shots at regular working people you show your ignorance. And there is lots of ignorance being posted with this story.

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on January 13, 2012 at 2:03am

      Democrats behaving EXACTLY like Hitler’s brownshirts did. Are we surprised?

      NAZIS = NATIONAL SOCIALISTS

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    • little big man
      Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:36am

      Captain Crunch
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 9:05pm

      Nobody is attacking individual union workers. Guess you have a comprehension problem. If I start a new business I should not have to hire union workers to work in my new business. You don’t like working in a nonunion business don’t apply.

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    • mtnclimberjim
      Posted on January 13, 2012 at 9:19am

      Captain,

      Ask Greece how well the unions are working out for them. For that matter, look what the unions have done to the manufacturing base in the US. You sir are the “useful idiot”

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    • turkey13
      Posted on January 13, 2012 at 10:35am

      Oklahoma is a right to work state and it is bad if you need employees. Here in our kittle town, Home Depot has put up a wooden permanent sign. Solo Cup has had one up for a year and run an ad in the paper every day. ON Sunday our job wanted is a page and a half. The problem is that most of the companys ony start you out at $9.00 an hour. My sons can’t keep employees at $12.00 an hour in construction. The problem is you can’t compet against the US Government.

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    • hologram5
      Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:37pm

      @MR MOLOTOV COCKTAIL:

      You have NO CLUE. WA is a union “Blue” state and we are so far in debt we cannot see the light of day. YOUR LIES HAVE BEEN DISPUTED AND PROVEN WRONG.

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    • pavepaws
      Posted on January 13, 2012 at 3:35pm

      Union members, the gift which keeps on giving.

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    • DoubleThrowDown
      Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:43pm

      Hey captin do the union workers out work everyone before or after their third break before lunch. Or is it after their third break after lunch?

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    • carbonyes
      Posted on January 13, 2012 at 10:36pm

      JAYCEN, this is one of the rare times I completely agree with you. One of the reason GM needed bailed out was because of out of controlled unions, way out of control, but it was also because of pi$$ poor management. Seems like everyone is messing up these Days.

      Gee, wonder why that could be?

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    • pmjr-jones
      Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:02am

      u-union n e e d n o m o r e!

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    • pmjr-jones
      Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:03am

      when you have the money pay it: the love of money is the root of all evil!

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    • pmjr-jones
      Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:05am

      then you don’t have to worry about your own attitude

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  • Open Mind
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:18pm

    Unions are a blight on the Free Enterprise capitalist system. Unions serve no purpose except to keep lazy incompetent people in their jobs. Unions have killed more jobs than Barack Obama and that is saying something.

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    • HKS
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:26pm

      They even got the Twinkies, now that is not tolerable.

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    • restorehope
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:28pm

      I see no difference between Wall Street and the unions. Both are greedy and looking out only for themselves. A union worker may piously insist he is concerned about all workers, but you better believe that he really just cares about his own paycheck and benefits. Unions slam Wall Street, but they are hypocrites when they do so.

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    • HKS
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:41pm

      I have always called Unions “necessary evils” and yes, the establishment is just as bad in the other direction, I have worked as both. People as a rule are concerned for themselves, whatever promotes their agenda is where they go and the unions back them blindly. With that said, unions worst pitfall is not the higher wages, it’s the promotion of non-productivity by protecting the dead beats and the intolerable work rules. It can cost a company heavily on a daily basis just dealing with the red tape. That’t why all the jobs are now in China.

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:08pm

      I will NEVER EVER buy a union made vehicle again, EVER, and i was born and raised in that town…..

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    • GIDEON612
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 7:18pm

      @Detroit paperboy
      i am right with you on that and my dad worked at the GM foundry. He tells me of seeing discarded reports stating that they were operating at a 66% scrap rate. Meaning that 66% of the engine blocks and heads were so poorly made that they had to trash them.
      Yeah, union…..and we pass the savings along to you.

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    • Capitalist Mama
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 7:24pm

      Wall Street makes money… Unions do not.

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    • ronaldreaganthegreat
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 7:59pm

      spot on!

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    • INOGAWD
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 8:30pm

      These ******** have outlived their usefullness, Time to say
      “Good Night Gracie”

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    • michael48
      Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:08am

      HKS…cudos , both post…it’s the freaking NON-WORK RULES…comrades, take note …”dem-wits need not apply”…feel better now , ocommie crowd???..I need workers , not loud mouth know-it-all 350 pound IDIOTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • carbonyes
      Posted on January 13, 2012 at 10:38pm

      Ditto!

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  • Sam Brown
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:17pm

    What would be nice is we the people tell all our politicions they are going to be tarred and feathered for this depression they caused, then do it. Government runs best when it fears the people.

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    • GeorgieJo
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:30pm

      SAM?
      Seems to me the ELECTED GOVT OFFICIALS are running AWAY instead of trying to ABIDE BY THE RULES.
      Unions have enough money to pay these folks who run away??

      GO MITCH GO
      Indiana is a GREAT state—-Hope it becomes RIGHT to WORK!!!

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:09pm

      Then Sam…why dont you run down to the White House with a gun you idiot? Think before you speak fool.

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    • booger71
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:17pm

      Baddoggy
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:09pm

      Then Sam…why dont you run down to the White House with a gun you idiot? Think before you speak fool.
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      No mention of a gun was used by Sam

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    • momrules
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:19pm

      Maddoggy………Idiot, fool, ignorant, stupid……….all of your favorite words. How old are you? I’m guessing maybe 13. No one on this site is as belligerant and angry as you are or as much as a bully.

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    • antiencenom
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 8:26pm

      Screw you doggygirl

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    • antiencenom
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 8:49pm

      Badoggy ,
      You come here to act like a conservative ,to give conservatives a bad name,
      But you really suck at it,Go away !!!

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    • Wolf
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 9:40pm

      First TX dems walk out for a month, then WS dems walk out, and now IN… but only IN GOP has the gonies to actually DO something while the dems are hiding under their beds and the dems lose out. Good for them. If they don’t want to play the game right, they can take the lumps like good commies should.

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  • gpk
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:17pm

    @Sgt1010………that’s why this former New Yorker had to move south. Good luck brother.

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:15pm

    It must be pretty frightening for a union worker to think he may have to compete in a free market place someday soon…. OOOOOOHHHHHHHHH SCAREY

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    • JRook
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:21pm

      Hmmm sounds like the state government is interfering in the free market if you step back and take the rational view. Why should the state be allowed to outlaw what a business and a union might negotiate.

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    • IMPEACHBHO
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:38pm

      PUBLIC union – taxpayer money is involved.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:39pm

      @JROOK,

      The question you should be asking is not….. “why should they be allowed to outlaw it?”

      But rather, is it “legal” for them to outlaw it?

      Because if it is “legal” by any definition of the word, then you must be OK with it, right?

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    • the_ancient
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:40pm

      JROOK, they are not outlawing what a business and a union might negotiate.

      They are saying that YOU as as worker, as a free person have the right to associate with a union or not, you should not be forced to join a union as a condition of your employment, nor should you be forced NOT to join a union as a condition of your employment

      that means that a union will have to justify why an employee must pay the union to represent them vs representing themselves to management. Just like they do when they are “voted in” but now it is a continual and ongoing process. As it should be

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    • the_ancient
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:11pm

      @Therightsofbilly

      HUH? The Union Draws its power from the state in the first place, its power is protected by the state, so the state has every right to modify the power it grated to the unions

      With out the State and Federal union laws, there would be ZERO unions because employers would never allow it in the first place.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:20pm

      @THE_ANCIENT

      Sorry, it’s kind of an inside dig at ROOK that I have had going with him for a while now.

      See, he has said that Roe vs. Wade means that no babies were ever killed by an abortion. So as long as something is not against the law, it is morally acceptable to him.

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    • booger71
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:21pm

      The Governor is not trying to put Indiana in between employers , unions , and employees, a right to work state is one in which if a union exists you do not have to join or pay dues to be able to work there. It is called freedom

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    • Paul -Indiana
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:50pm

      I’ve never has a union job. Instead, I learned useful skills that allow me to get a job that pays well.

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    • what4
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 7:44pm

      @ Booger,
      California is also a right to work state unless you work for the state, non-union employees MUST pay union dues even if they are not a member…..The inmates are truly running the asylum out here!

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    • PamMac
      Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:06pm

      JRook, have you been paying attention to any news lately? Every hear about that little-ole Federal Labor Relations Board (minor govt agency in DC) that has been interfering in a private enterprise called BOEING? The labor commies at the FEDERAL level are dictating to a private business where and how it conducts that private business…all because of the all might powerful union. Now, if you are peeved at a state govt interfering in labor and business then you better be downright outraged when the FEDS are doing the same thing. BTW, name a free market business that invents and markets a real product, buys raw materials, hires people, distributes that product, and makes a profit off sales of that product…all by a union local. Any ideas? Face it, without an employer who risks capitol to do all of the above, the unions would be out of business. Parasites and leaches all.

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    • Curious - Really
      Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:55pm

      JROOK – “illegal for Indiana businesses and unions to negotiate contracts that require all workers to pay union fees ”

      They want to make it illegal for businesses and unions to make everyone pay dues to the unions – whether they want to or not. In other words, they want to make it legal for workers to decide for themselves if part of their paycheck will go to the union. IMHO it should be illegal for employers and unions to make a deal with each other involving other people’s money.

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  • gpk
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:15pm

    Ring Ding unions are dead.

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    • encinom
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:21pm

      Actually, the unions are killng the Tea Party, look at Ohio and Wisconsin, the uprising in Indiana, when tea party backed politicians have attempted to pass laws sponsored by the Corporate Masters of the Tea Party, the States have revolted. Walker is one his way to the unemployment line, the anti-union bill in Ohio was voted out by a large margin in Ohio. Keep this issue alive in battle ground states and watch thepro union voters flood the booths come election day.

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    • Bill Rowland
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:52pm

      Encomin – Why don’t you take yourself and your liberal views to the Huffington Post here you belong?

      OMG and take you with him

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    • stormcrow53
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 7:39pm

      @ EncinoM: Actually, the unions are committing suicide. They can’t get any one to show up without bribing them (The same with OWS). They have been caught on tape perpetrating fraud (accepting and using fraudulent Doctors notes in Wisconsin,) endangering their children(the Verizon Union stooge, child abuser putting his child in front of a truck,) to name a few. The working people are fed up with their mooching, dope smoking, selfish behavior. They can’t even get enough names on their recall petitions without using fraudulent means. Union bosses are thieves living in luxury on the dues of their slaves and bailouts of their bankers and bought politicos. Private sector union membership is at the lowest in it’s history. The real working man is tired of pulling the load for the worthless public sector union freeloader.
      The Tea Party made their point and went back to work. We didn’t defecate on cars or demand to have sex with animals, abandon our children on train tracks and in tents. We went to the polls and handed the Progressives and Democrats the worst defeat in the history of the nation. And we will do it again while your union buddies are trying to destroy the secret ballot and dismantle the free market system.
      You are losing. Your slavemasters know it. You are in the minority. You are the one per cent.
      We’ll be watching the basements and the trunks of cars where the union thugs hide all the stolen ballots. You won’t steal it this time.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 7:59pm

      It matters not Encinom,

      One way or another the unions will fade out. They are already well on their way. Your cries are the dying gasps.

      If they mobilize and win a few battles as you have stated, it will only prolong the madness for so long.

      Sooner or later, everything union will collapse under the weight of it’s own idiocy.

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    • unsafe
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 8:25pm

      One other nice thing in Indy you need a ID to VOTE so that srews the unions there, so bring it on its time to take these thugs down cut off there money supply and they are nothing…….RIGHT TO WORK !! yahoo….and get them out of the schools too.

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    • spirit of freedom
      Posted on January 13, 2012 at 8:15am

      @encicommie,
      as usual your comments prove that you have your head so far implanted up your own azz that you cant recognize anything but your own idiotic beliefs. you will find out how far off you are after the next election though. till then keep smoken that funny stuff and poppin those “mood enhancers”.

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    • carbonyes
      Posted on January 13, 2012 at 10:46pm

      ENCINOM, the reasons for the loss in Ohio included the inclusion of police and fireman in the law, poor explanation of the budget problems in the state created by the prolific union pensions, and false info provided by both union leadership and the state Democratic politicians, as well as the governor’s failure to stand behind the legislation that was put into law.

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  • funwithguitars
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:13pm

    I live in Indiana . I spoke with my house rep only a couple days ago and he says that the police presence around the statehouse is bigger than he has ever seen it. His word to describe it…, “madhouse”. I wrote a letter to him regarding my support of right to work. He called me back, yes thats right , my elected state representative actually called me back. He confirmed his support of right to work. And actually stated that right to work really has a chance of passing here this time. They invoked a rule that makes the democrats who run PAY $1000 per day if they maliciously keep the quorum from happening. Maybe “invoked” and “maliciously” aren’t the correct verbage , but you get my point. Thats why they came back.

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  • momsense
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:13pm

    Keep wallowing in the trough while your union bosses spend their time and your union dues in Hawaii and Cancun. If you get screwed, its what you deserve because that‘s what you’ve chosen.

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    • Leopold
      Posted on January 13, 2012 at 1:34am

      It is not only that and the hypocrisy it is such ignorance of self. To call these people dictators because they are denied to dictate to people that they have to pay a few in order to work is beyond hypocrisy. They don not even think anymore. They do not hear how ridiculous they sound and are in their behavior. This shows how group think denies any personal think.

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  • hauschild
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:12pm

    More important than disbanding unions is getting union members themselves to think about life in a more productive way. Helps everyone in the long run. People don’t become lazy, and you don’t saddle future generations with ridiculous amounts of debt due to unfunded pension liabilities.

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  • momrules
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:12pm

    Democrats, unions, Marxists, liberals, Muslim Brotherhood, Taliban, CAIR, OWS………they are all about the same.
    Not one moral bone in any of them.

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    • DaytonConserve
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 7:39pm

      I would include a number of Rino’s as well. Unless one practices Constitutional Conservatism, their usefullness as a US Citizen is compromised.

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  • abbygirl1994
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:11pm

    Its time to shut the Union’s down, they are corrupt and run by evil entities! God help us all!

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  • Eliasim
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:11pm

    Well I don’t know about you folks but to me it makes much more sense to pay someone $8 per hour. That way:
    $1280 per month gross
    $800 per month net
    $400 per month rent
    ——————————–
    That leaves $400 per month for:
    Food
    Gas
    Insurance
    Utilities
    And probably a car payment.
    I just don’t see people making it on $8 per hour, unless maybe they get married just so they can financially get by.

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:16pm

      Ultimately the problem is that business owners are just as greedy as the unions, which is why unions came about to begin with.

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:19pm

      Not only that, but when you pay someone a low amount per money that they can easily get somewhere else, people tend not to give a crap about their job, and they break things or soon quit.

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:22pm

      The problem is big government and it’s always been big government, because good people who operate mostly on wholesome principals – well people like me, and my grand parents – we won’t open companies because the entire system is screwed.

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:32pm

      Yeah my grand parents used own a company, but after Woodrow Wilson and FDR they said the hell with you and shutdown the business.

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:38pm

      And that’s why I say: imagine all the inventions that were never invented? Because ultimately, in the grand scheme of things wholesome people are more tempered, and more intelligent. Therefore imagine all the wonderful crap you will never see.

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    • IMPEACHBHO
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:44pm

      @ELIASIM
      Unions served a purpose years ago. Now there are laws to protect the worker. But these are PUBLIC unions we are talking about, not private. TAXPAYER money is involved. PUBLIC unions should not be allowed to exist. The taxpayer has the right to say yes or no – we pay their salary.

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:56pm

      IMPEACHBHO,
      Yes I know there are laws to protect workers and that in part is also the problem because those same laws protect giant corporations that can afford to enact those laws while smaller companies can not, and they also give vulture lawyers leverage to slam small companies to financially bankrupt them. The problem is that their are very few good, ethical people in America anymore, and I regret my family tree fighting in every major war all the back to the American War for Independence.

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    • sndrman
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:59pm

      sure at one time, you speak of $8. per hour. that’s entry level position if you have not aquired skills to “move up” or gotten an education to make more why do you blame the company you work for?do you know what it takes to run a business? it‘s the business owner’s risk.why would you call a business owner greedy? go back to school or a trade school and better yourself instead of envy and give me give me.

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:01pm

      Most Sons and daughters of the American Revolution I know are quite disappointed in America.

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:06pm

      sndrman,
      Oh I’m not talking about me. But if America ever changed whereby gov wouldn’t be knee-deep in my business and I actually started a business, I wouldn’t pay a high-school graduate less than $14 per hour starting.

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:09pm

      And if I couldn’t afford to pay them $14 per hour starting, then I wouldn’t open a business.

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    • JohnD9207
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:27pm

      So everyone who is not unionized makes $8.00/hr? My company pays $10.49 for someone who comes in off the street no job skills. Anyone who makes less than $12.00/hr gets half priced benefits. And if they prove that they are willing to work receives a yearly pay raise. Its what we use to call starting out on the bottom. Oh and you forgot one expense everyone has a data cell phone which is really much more important than rent. Unions do not protect strong workers, only the weak idiots who screw up. Gotta ask yourself how the poor teachers union can scrape up 50M to donate to democrats every election cycle?

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    • Ramv36
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 7:10pm

      Eliasm said “Not only that, but when you pay someone a low amount per money that they can easily get somewhere else, people tend not to give a crap about their job, and they break things or soon quit.”

      My first question would be this: If you can get more money somewhere else as you stated, what fool wouldn’t? Honestly, if you hate your job and know you can get more pay somewhere else, then you‘re a lazy idiot or just unambitious if you don’t go to that other job.

      The biggest problem I have with will-to-work states is this; How is there even any debate about whether an American worker should be forced to pay his superiors solely to keep his job? How is there even debate on that question. The answer should be a resounding and powerful NO, I refuse to be fired or prevented from being fired just because I wouldn’t pay some guy to get to job. In most other countries, having to pay to get something you have a right to is mostly called graft, bribery, or corruption.
      I say, let’s end this corruption, because until we do we can’t criticize any third-world hellhole for doing the same thing.

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  • wolfinshdo
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:04pm

    I can’t recall a time when Republicans have ever run away and then come back after the fact and cried about not being included.

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    • carbonyes
      Posted on January 13, 2012 at 10:58pm

      Your absolutely right! Republicans don‘t take their ball and go home if they don’t get their way.

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  • oddball130
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:00pm

    The unions must be destroyed!!

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  • sgt1010
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:00pm

    If I read this right the legislation does not do away with unions, it leaves the choice up to the individual employee whether or not they want to join the union, not forced to as they are now. The reason the union members are upset is that they know that their numbers will diminish, the dues will decrease, which means less donations to the dems., eventually there will be more non-union then union. Way to go Gov. Daniels, wish we had a Gov. with your Cajones here in NY.

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    • wolfinshdo
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:23pm

      Can you imagine that?! What would it be like if you drove by a road crew and instead of one guy working and five guys watching, there were actually five guys working and one guy watching?! How fast would all those shovel ready jobs been done? They fixed about a mile of road here (actually made it smaller) and spent the whole time paving it then digging it back up then paving it again over and over. Overshot the budget for the job so bad the next town didn’t have enough funds to continue. They had planned to do approx 4 miles, through two towns. And yes, I had to drive through it a few times each day the whole time so I saw first hand how efficient the teams were.

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    • NightWriter
      Posted on January 13, 2012 at 4:40pm

      @Sgt1010 –

      Yes, that‘s what ’right to work’ means. Unions are not ‘outlawed’, the employee is simply given a choice – of whether or not to join – and pay dues. That’s why the unions are screaming to high Heaven.

      They NEED those dues monies for stuff like – buying elections and high dollar (Cancun) vacations for the bosses. Unions take in millions upon millions from their memberships – but when a city/state budgets shows deficits in health and welfare packages – do the unions pay? NO – they call up a strike to hold the TAXPAYERS HOSTAGE for more money.

      Walker’s Wisconsin law went a step futher – and limited collective bargaining for PUBLIC employees to wages and working conditions… but not benefits – which are bankrupting states – and will eventually leave us ALL in worse shape than Greece… who’s mess was CREATED by public unions and cradle to grave entitlements…

      WAKE UP!

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  • Sirfoldallot
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:00pm

    Union’s , coming to a town near you.

    If the union’s have there way there will be a Dictator in place for our Freedom !

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    • Sirfoldallot
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:12pm

      Ps
      use to think some union was needed,,, now ????

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    • Sirfoldallot
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:17pm

      PS PS
      use to think only kids called others ugly names,,
      throw fit’s,
      walk off, ;;;what have we become ???? WTH

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  • slvrserfr
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 4:59pm

    Typical childish behavior from the left, if anyone should be ‘tarred and feathered’ it should be them for their chicken little character traits of acting like cowards and running away from everything they have a problem with rather than doing their job and working out their differences on behalf of the people they represent.

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  • KeithOlberdink
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 4:58pm

    This is not democracy! LOL! Coming from a union….too funny

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    • BetterDays
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 6:17pm

      Yea, I saw that one too, ironic smile.

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    • Ramv36
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 7:16pm

      It’s just like the OWSers. When they chanted “This is what Democracy looks like!”, I completely agreed, because direct democracy, which they advocate, is in fact a large, angry, violent mob.
      This fact makes me happy to live in a Constitutional Republic governed through a Representative Democracy.

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  • flatdaddio
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 4:56pm

    Go Indiana!

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  • FSM_47
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 4:56pm

    Love it when Unions Demand the Workers NOT have Freedom of Choice at the State level. Federal workforce is ‘right to work’ and look at their benefits.

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    • Komponist-ZAH
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:11pm

      But the people who oppose their trying to keep workers from having that freedom are the “dictators”.

      Do they ever think about what they’re saying?

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  • I.Gaspar
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 4:52pm

    Unions. Unions. Unions.
    They are one of the big reasons for the failure of so many American companies.
    Even Hostess is bankrupting, not because of sales or cost of ingredients…but becuse of the ridiculous union retirement deals they cannot break.
    And they WILL resort to violence if they are checked and reigned in.
    Put ‘em all in prison…with most of the politicians in Washington.

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    • CatB
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 4:56pm

      Michigan is also talking right to work .. if Indiana goes right to work .. Michigan better or they will be OFFICIALLY dead. However between the welfare people and the union people they will fight it tooth and nail ..

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    • harvbell
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:09pm

      I belonged to a labor union 40 years ago and all they did was sell us down the river. They are going to become more and more violant as their power is threatened. They killed the U.S. auto industry in 70′s.

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  • MrSunshine
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 4:52pm

    Unions, you’ve outlived your usefullness. What a bunch of crybaby pissants! Just go away….far away! The adults are talking.

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  • Phoneguy
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 4:51pm

    Time has come that unions go away, right to work, works!

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  • ModerationIsBest
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 4:49pm

    Are we going to see more politicians fleeing from their duty?

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    • MrSunshine
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 4:56pm

      Today’s professional politicians have NO sense of duty. They are in it for themselves and we see it on both sides of the isle. It’s time for term limits and volunteer politics. FLUSH!!!!!!!!

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    • kentuckypatriot
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 4:57pm

      Did they or did they not take an oath to abide by their constitutiion? It seems to me the demonrats arent’ doing their job they were hired, again.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:08pm

      Ohio had their chance. I doubt we could make Ohio a “right to work” state now.

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    • towerguy
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 10:48pm

      Mod is Best: Ohio did vote down Senate Bill 5, and in doing so, created the results we are seeing now. The City of Marion announced a 25% police and fire workforce reduction once the bill failed; the fire union rep agreed to enough cuts (almost the same as the SB5 would have allowed) that the firefighters were kept on the job. The police union refuses to lower the wages and/or pay more for benefits, so their “brother” officers will be laid off. How exactly did losing 25% of your union workforce help the union? How did it help the police officers that are being laid off?

      I know quite a few teachers and public school system folks who railed against the bill, and when I asked them how they felt about their co-workers being fired to support their benefits package, they couldn’t come up with an answer. One did say that she hadn’t considered it, and another told me “that won’t happen.” For these fine people, I post every story I find about workforce reduction that can be attributed to SB5 being overturned on referendum. In November I told them that no whining would be permitted as the layoffs began, and that I would remind them that they made the choice, and that their choice had consequences. Tough Love!

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    • towerguy
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 10:50pm

      Sorry – post above in response to Anonymous T. Irrelevant

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on January 12, 2012 at 4:48pm

    We see the useless mentality of the left when their authority and power is challenged for real; they will resort to any means to achieve their ends, and watch for their union cronies to become beligerant, aggressive and dowright threatening-dangerous against anyone standing in their way. This matter can easily hit a flashpoint and become violent to where many people are injured or even killed.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 4:52pm

      You’re right, Snow.

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    • IMPEACHBHO
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 5:28pm

      Just like BHO – doesn’t follow the constitution, our laws – just does whatever he wants to get his way. They are all spoiled, ignorant children when you get right down to it.

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on January 12, 2012 at 10:02pm

      SNOWLEOPARD, I agree with you and feel the unions are now a threat to our country. They know that their demands are bringing down our country and they do not care.

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