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Comments (196)
mamawalker
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:21amThe sad part is that many Americans believe this garbage all the while they have Obama on a pedestal!
Report Post »Alex
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:18amGood montage of idiots babbling.
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:14amIf Freud were alive today, he would have a field day with MSNBC.
Report Post »MrObvious
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:14amBush didn’t order a bunch of civilians be rounded up, trapped, then executed. Mao did, Stalin did, Hitler did, Husein did.
Bush never ordered for any civilians to be killed.
Any collateral damage done during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were/are unfortunate; but, not mass murder.
Under Bush, our military did more to minimize collateral damage, during war, than any other nation in history.
Clinton invited collateral damage when he ordered the bombing of civilian targets and infrastructure during that little war we waged on Serbia for alleged war crimes against Albanian Muslims – the allegations turned out to be largely false.
The last president before that to ignore not care about collateral damage was LBJ during the Vietnam war.
I see a pattern forming.
Report Post »bry
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:24amI agree with your comment, I also see a pattern forming.
Report Post »The left wants us all to forget what happened to us on 9/11…not to mention the attacks on Americans going back 30 years. Remain the hostage taking in Iran? The left does not. Remember the attack on the barracks in Lebanon? The left does not. How about the attack on the USS Cole? I guess the left agrees we brought it on ourselves. We are evil and undeserving, reading between the lines of Obamam speak.
How dare George Bush defend and protect such a horrid country as this? Bush must be the crazy one.
MrObvious
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:39amJust to add to that, the terrorists were all obeying Sharia.
Islam may be a religion of peace; but, only when Sharia is not enforced.
We need to start separating Islam and Sharia, in our conversations.
Most Muslims don’t really follow Sharia.
Many may live in countries that enforce it – like Iran; but, they don’t really follow it or want it enforced – their countries’ governments may; but, without true free elections, governments are not of, for or by the people.
Just look at the changes in Iraq and most of Afghanistan.
Kandahar may still be stuck; but, they still have a Taliban/terror problem there.
Report Post »Johnnyp1958
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:13amBOIL all of these COMMUNIST in a KETTLE OF PUSS
Report Post »Dstarr55
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:11amI can’t believe the rhetoric of these people – I think we now know where all the hate filled speech comes from. As much as they try to say the tea party and conservatives are spewing hate towards Obama, I have never seen as much vitriol towards Obama as these people that thrown at George W. Bush. Where is the respect for the Presidency that they demand for Obama?
Report Post »iwalkalone
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:11amWe need a huge broom to just sweep them all out. Starting from zero might be better than trying to climb out of the hole we are in. I dont think we can rewire the thoroughly washed brains coming out of universities.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:10amGee, I feel really bad about criticizing Obama’s policies now. The left bent over backward to be fair to W.
Report Post »bry
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:17amNow that’s funny!
Report Post »Diamondback
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 12:39pmBwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Diamondback
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 12:40pmIf Comcast doesn’t clean up this network post haste we should all cancel our Comcast and go with a competitor!
Let Comcast know your thoughts please.
Report Post »MarkInSavannah
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:06amListening to these moonbats talk leads me to believe they all continue to suffer from that strange psychological disorder that has yet received any attention from the medical field: Bush Derangement Syndrome. There really needs to be a support group set up for these poor and suffering people!
Report Post »JD Carp
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:06amIt is a sad day in America to hear American citizens speak like this. Freedom of speech is a right, but I retain the right to call them liars and to change the channel. Let the lack of ratings and network cancellation be the judge.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 10:29amthe soros-funded obama democrats stopped being “Americans” quite awhile ago.
Report Post »Ponyexpress
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:06amTake a look at this old video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwqh4wQPoQk
Report Post »OneRepublic4us
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 11:22amThanks Pony, great video!
Report Post »ConservativeFeminist
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:05amChris Matthews thinks Bush was in over his head? That Bush needs a lie detector test? This would all make sense if you took out the name “Bush” and inserted the name “Obama” !
Would also like to point out that the press is giving Obama a “free pass” on the current death and chaos in Haiti.
Report Post »annieoakley
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 10:59amOne can make the case that Matthews is in over his head.
Report Post »Midwestgirl1116
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:04amHistorians have already made up their minds?? HAHAHAHA
Report Post »Sandy
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:01amThis is Daddy Soros sending his minions out to destroy Bush again. Anyone ever wonder why Soros wanted to spend so much to get Bush out of office? Bush wouldn‘t totally go along with Soros’s plan. Bush said he made tough decisions that some people didn’t like, it now makes so much more sense.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:19amI think they all work together as both of them work for Lucifer
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh4JHB3yo0s&feature=related
CFR and Bilderburg you can also look at the Bohemian Grove
and Skull and Bones, these are not Christian groups.
Lucifer promised Jesus the world and he turned him down.
NickDeringer
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:00amMr. Malloy, you never actually sucked the brains out of babies in their mothers womb. but is there a just a qualitative difference between you and any other any other mass murderer of little children?
Report Post »what4
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 10:26amGood point!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:00amHe clearly displays many to all of the traits of a sociopath. And his policies are in line with many policies endorsed by the former National Socialist German Worker’s Party. So there you go.
Report Post »scuba13
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:42amTake it easy he’s just a liberal radio talk show host that few people listen to.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 10:09amI was speaking about Obama. :)
Report Post »scuba13
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 11:11amoh, ok then
Report Post »bry
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:00amOMG…listening to this just gave me ear cancer. Stop the insanity!
Report Post »Johnnyp1958
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:00amWhy do communist talk with such hate in there tone
Report Post »bookofwisdom
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 11:02amBecause they don’t believe in God. I will continue to pray for them, that they will have a change of heart and our country will thrive once more. May God Bless.
Report Post »Eyore
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:59amSo how many civilians have been killed by Obama’s drone attacks
Report Post »Last I herd more civilians were killed in Afganistan and Pakistan by Obama than Bush at least according to AI
That is why the Pakies are all pissed off
tower7femacamp
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:36amyes and soon those Drones will be targeting Americans
Report Post »along with being water boarded , Glen better watch his back
with these guys, look at the DC madam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSl_bLi3EjM&feature=related
pls be careful Glen
Dstarr55
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 11:25amTower7, just a question – were in in the tower when it fell?
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:58amWhy no mention of Depleted Uranium in this ? Neither side will touch this subject
Report Post »http://www.seattlepi.com/national/95178_du12.shtml
this is worse than Hiroshima. Yet no news coverage ?
theVirginian
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 12:48pmEven though the health consequences of DU is still debated, there is NO comparison to instantly vaporizing 80,000 people. That stretch of road in Iraq was not the first place DU was used in combat (they were used in the Balkans by NATO without ill effect) so maybe something else is going on there. To claim that the road is littered in radioactive wrecks is misleading and sensational.
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:57amWow! They let all the looney libs out of the zoo today.
Report Post »starman70
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:27amCan we have a roundup?
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 11:27amYeah, how about we create a new zoo, or detention camp. I bet they’d like that.
Report Post »Mary M. Tebbe
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:54pmIt has been said that the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world. What kind of mothers did these idiots have anyway???!!!
Report Post »Spokavriel
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:56amThe only way George W Bush will be seen as worse than Obama is if history books continue to be written by the revisionists that paint Wilson and FDR as heroes. I find this whole video sickening that people really believe these things. Apparently they blame every civilian death and bit of collateral damage on Bush personally. Even when discovered terrorists repeatedly kill everyone around them in attempted captures.
Report Post »Lesterp
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:01amI only got half way through the video, these people are complete fools.
Report Post »mexicanhasmyjob
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:53amthis is how it all starts. god bless (((GB)))
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:52amI also believed in the New World Order of 1 world Govt, like your Bush’s,
Clinton‘s and Obama’s do today.
I also approved of torture.
Adolf Hitler
sbleve
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:45amOne world order was being produced before Hitler. Social academicians of Germany had before Hitler,discovered that Marxism would lead to unavoidable dictatorship. Not so unlike the previous Kingdoms of old. Along comes a politician-Hitler that thought he was smarter than that clown over there. Ask his generals about Hitler smart. His generals were supporters of National socialism, not what became of Hitler-ism-Nazi. Surround yourself with individuals that think and support your very moral base, that none will offer a conflicting viewpoint, and you will have perpetuated Mans guarantee to repeat history over and over.
World order absence of National Identity is closer today than in Bush 43′s time, as it was being wax-on wax-off in Pres 26 time.
The struggle of National Party power (D & R) to maintain their dominance, is also shown in the media’s distortion of grass roots political swelling, partially portrayed by tea party individuals. National socialism is usually born within the greed for Power over another human. The very reason that Lenin failed (he actually died before failure was evident). One World Order would not allow the ‘keeper of liberty’ that is in Open Primary electoral process. This would also chop off at the knee our National Party power machine. Removal of the D & R & I & C etc on any government paper would also shorten the need for a national political party machine.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 10:28amyes I agree sbleve, Alexander the great tried it and so did Rome
Report Post »it was offered to Jesus by Lucifer in the desert.
So I feel the One world Govt has it’s roots with Lucifer
how does the Bush’s reconcile this with their supposed Christianity.
which takes me back to Skull and Bones and Bohemian Grove’s
worship of Moloch
ron the veteran
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 10:37amlets talk about all the deaths caused by socialists or communists they are both the same thing 100million deaths in the past 100 years keep talking commies we want to know who you are.
Report Post »free2bme1961
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 2:16pmBelonging to the Left or Right, is just an illusion. There is no such division, in the ‘scheme’ of things, okay?
Report Post »Dubya’s grand-dad, supported Adolph, and so did JFK’s dad. Look it up! One is left, & one is right.
I do not see a disagreement amongst left & right there, do you?
If everyone choses to remain ignorant, about what the Afghanistan, and Iraq wars are really about, it will cost us our freedom! This NWO plan, has lurking in the background, just waiting to pounce, for many, many years! What better way to conquer us, than to keep us divided, with lies!
Btw, father served over 25 years in the USAF & Nationl Guard; my daughter served almost 9 years….I am not liberal, conservative, or tied into any politcal ploy. I believe in fighting for FREEDOM that is not based, and presented to us, under dispicable lies!
Lesterp
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:52amThat’s how these idiots think, protect evil.
Report Post »Cemoto78
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:02amAs a former Marine, thinking of this day to honor all veterans, I am proud to have served and fought to protect the right of even these wackos to have free speech. God bless this great country.
Report Post »DrammyCoke
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:03amGetting this all documented is great!!! Gotta love idiots!!
Report Post »biggreenboo
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:04amOMG… i can’t get the video…. I WANNA SEE!!!!
Report Post »DimmuBorgir
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:07amMarine veteran here. I love freedom of sepech and would fight for it again. still would want to shut her up though
Report Post »DimmuBorgir
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:22amI served in OIF 2 & 3
there were most definitely WMD’s in Iraq.
The only problem is, these dumba$$ draft dodging liberal hippie cry babbies think that WMD = NUKE. So apparently the only way you can go to war is if the other team has a nuke or they are raising green house gasses.
Report Post »mizflame98
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:44amBut putting a Hitler mustache on a picture of Obama is racist & horrifying. Go figure.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:45amI have to say since 2006 when the Progressives really started to rear their ugly heads in their take over of the DEMOCRATIC Party.. the stepped up Progressives Propaganda machine has been in full speed ahead.. I have piles of CD’s with all their activities for future generations.. Just in case they try to SCRUB this type of stuff.. Something I had been lead to beleive couldn‘t be done but as things I once viewed are suddenly no longer available it’s nice to know I have a copy and there are blogger’s out there that have even more in their archives.. have to say people like these are making their base flee.. my son in law who voted for Obama.. at first defended him and the party.. is now DONE with the party after the NOVEMBER ELECTIONS when he noticed that for some reason the people in Chicago voted for a governor who is hell bent on raising taxes.. his quote is people DON’T vote to have LESS money in their pockets..Now he‘s looking to move out of the city cause there won’t even be an election for mayor.. Obama already put out the word this is RAHMS reward for twisting arms without even running he will win..BTW my son in law is Hispanic and knows the Latinos HATE Rahm.. but he will still win and stay like a Daley.. FOREVER..
Report Post »Muslim in Chief
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:46amIt is sad to see how the left thinks. Here it is ok to Bash a sitting President at the time (Bush). But if you do it now, it is deisrespectful, and you are a racist. I would say remove PMSNBC from the Airwaves, but that would only upset the 5 people who actually watch it.
Liberalism is a mental disorder
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 10:08am@DimmuBorgir
No guy, there were not WMD’s in Iraq, even Bush admits that now. The only known WMD’s to date that actually are capable of massive societal destruction, are nukes. And you know what? Yes, you do in fact have to wait until another nation attacks you before you can invade them. That’s how America was supposed to work. Read up on the Founders and read the Constitution. We haven’t had a declared war since WW2, so all wars since WW2 are/were illegal.
I’m sorry that you had to sacrifice so much of your youth and time at the behest of evil politicians guy. You don‘t have to carry their water now that you’re out though.
Report Post »ron the veteran
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 10:29amlet them run their mouths and hang themselves. they are doing a great job of it so far. keep it up idiots we want to know who you all are so we know where to find you. i just love how these ******** are trying to put bush into a catagory with mass murderers. it was democrats who voted to go to irak they sure love to white wash the truth. keep talking commies!
ron the veteran
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 10:34amwmds are anything that kills in mass like gas or nukes and anyone who dont know that is just plain f***in lame or a ******* or both
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 10:50amGhostofjefferson, I’ll say it again, go ask the Marsh Arabs and the Kurds about WMDs, maybe chemical warfare is OK by you but they didn’t seem to like it much.
Was 9/11 not an attack on America in your opinion??
Thank you to all veterans, Happy Veterans Day, God bless.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 10:54amChemical weapons are not WMD’s. They’re nasty, without question, but they‘re not WMD’s. The only WMD know to man, prior to Bush’s big push to get us to invade a nation that had done nothing to us, were nukes.
I refuse to destroy the language to enable politicians, sorry.
If you want to say “Hey, we should have invaded because they were using chemical weapons on their own people”, that’s one thing, and accurate insofar as details go as to the reason. But let’s stop erasing meaning from words in order to uphold a political agenda please.
The emotionalism doesn’t work on me, btw. If you want to claim a thing is something other than what it is, and throw in veiled smears or appeals to pathos, you’re not going to impress me. Sorry.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 10:55am@ ron the veteran
I had no idea Gatling guns were WMD’s. Huh.
Report Post »Rogue
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 11:12amFirst I want to say thank you and God Bless to all of our Veterans today, past and present!
Also, before my comment, I fully support our servicemen and women, and I want to see us accomplish our missions overseas before bringing them all home, but I hope it is done quickly and efficiently. We have offered these countries thousands of American lives and billions of dollars – it is time they take responsibility for thier own lands.
What irks me about all these liberals is, if they were so upset about the wars we are fighting now, why is there no public outcry directed at Obama? He is carrying on the wars just as Bush did. As soon as Obama got into office, the demands for withdrawl magically went away overnight. If we get a Republican in the White house in 2012, you can bet your @ss his first day in office, the issue will be front and center again. Where are the protestors standing in front of the White House? Where are the demands for the President to end the wars? What a bunch of phony hypocrits.
The other major problem I have is that the media in general does carries VERY few stories about the wars. War coverage is “bad for ratings” – apparently no one wants to be reminded of what our soldiers are doing over there, and certainly don’t want to be burdened by the sadness of lives lost every day. It sickens me that the media sweeps the wars under the rug. News outlets would rather show a video of a kitten playing with yarn than take a few minutes to tell a story about one of our heroes or his family back home.
How many children in this country even realize we are a nation at war? Not many, I suspect. I am guilty of this as well, and am ashamed of it – there are some days that pass when life has me so distracted, I don’t give thanks to those fighting for my freedom.
Please, on this day, make a commitment to contact a servicemen overseas and tell them you support them. Give to a Veterans charity or support group. Send a care package. At the very least, take a moment right now and pray for our men and women in uniform.
Report Post »BlazingPatriot
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 11:15amLet’s pack up these liberal skunks and send them to N. Korea !!
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 11:37amWell, we are still in Iraq. We are still in Afghanistan. Should they not be saying the same things about President Obama?
Report Post »lulu229
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 11:43amfrom Wikipedia:
A weapon of mass destruction (WMD) is a weapon that can kill and bring significant harm to a large numbers of humans (and other life forms) and/or cause great damage to man-made structures (e.g. buildings), natural structures (e.g. mountains), or the biosphere in general. The scope and application of the term has evolved and been disputed, often signifying more politically than technically. Coined in reference to aerial bombing with chemical explosives, it has come to distinguish large-scale weaponry of other technologies, such as chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear. This differentiates the term from more technical ones such as chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear weapons (CBRN).
From Answers.com:
(′wep·ən əv ′mas di′strək·shən)
(ordnance) Nuclear, bacteriological, or other weapon capable of causing widespread death or destruction.
From soucewatch.org:
A basic and deliberately limited definition for the term weapons of mass destruction, also known as WMD, comes from the National Strategy to Combat Weapons of Mass Destruction of 2002:
“Weapons of mass destruction (WMD)–nuclear, biological, and chemical–in the possession of hostile states and terrorists represent one of the greatest security challenges facing the United States.” Also included in this category are missiles capable of reaching both the United States and U.S. interests abroad.
Report Post »lulu229
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 11:44amThanks to all our vets! Americans do support you and honor you!
Report Post »Pnxgld
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 11:56amMizflame
While I don’t agree with the above video, racist? Hateful, absolutely! WMDs in Iraq of chemical & biological were there.
Report Post »Kasman
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 1:22pm@GhostOfJefferson
Just another stO_Opid clueless ******* babbeling….
Irrefutable Facts : WMD’s FOUND IN Iraq -
Ove 500 Metric TONS of Yellow Cake.
Over 140,000 Liters of various chemical agents including CV, Mustard, and many others.
FACT :
Cananda secretly smuggled ALL of these materials out of Iraq for the US in order to keep terrorists from attacking and obtaining said materials.
Gee it was news ALL over the REST of the world and only a minor story here….. wonder why and who….. DUH
FACT :
With 1 single pound of yellow cake and a very small amount of American ingenuity, someone could easily kill ten’s of thousands of innocent people.
Just 1 SINGLE drop of CV can in fact kill well over 1000 people…..
But hey, your a Commie/Fascist/Socialist/Libral/Demonicrat, so yea, those arent WMD‘s because they don’t destroy buildings and such… they just erase LIFE and leave those precious building and what-not intact.
I guess it would be more fitting to name those item‘s WMA’s = Weapons of Mass Annihilation
Thank you and have a nice Day……
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 1:26pm@lulu229
No doubt the language has been changed.
Even taking the New Definition ™, Iraq simply didn’t have any of that, and FURTHER, if they did, it was the business of the Iraqi people to deal with it. Bush himself SAID THEY WERE MISTAKEN. Get it?
We are not supposed to be invading nations pre-emptively. Goodness, how we like to ignore the Constitution, our history, our heritage and our long tradition of never starting a fight when it suits our goals.
I’ll tell you this. We’ll never, ever get out from under the progressive net if we continue to bleat on and on for war. If there is one truth that many noted philosophers and economists have noted the last one hundred years it is that the welfare state and the warfare state go hand in hand. We‘ll never return to a Constitutional republic if we refuse to follow our own Constitution when it’s inconvenient to us. If you want a war, then make Congress declare one, as the CONSTITUTION REQUIRES. But that would take answers to questions like “where were we attacked” and “when did they declare war on us” and we’d never get to go die on battlefields to make politicians feel all brave and macho in their offices back home.
I’m a vetran myself. It sickens me how so many otherwise good people have been propagandized to reflexively do a blood dance and war whoop at the command of politicians.
Your choices right now are, a Constitutional Republic, or a lawless dictatorship. Keep whooping it up for invading other nations like this and you might as well throw the first option in the trash and set it on fire.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 1:38pm@Kasman
You are uninformed in your judgment. Further, you clearly have not read my posts outside of this particular thread, or you’d know that I’m exactly the opposite of what you claim, and further, you’d realize that I’m probably much more of a Constitutionalist than you will ever be. With that fact in mind, you immediately jump to ad hominem and smears, and I mean immediately in the first paragraph of your response to my words. You know you cannot justify your desire for blood with the Constitution, you know that our history has always been to not strike first like dictatorship nations always do, and you know that we have no business in Iraq and never had business in Iraq. So you name call, throw out “facts” that even Bush states were not present, so you might want to inform him of your “facts” as well and stomp off with your little Made In China flag waving proudly.
Name calling, smears and ad hominem, isn’t that interesting? Those are EXACTLY the tactics of the left and progressives. And wouldn’t you know it, the progressives have always been the ones screaming for blood and war…until they taught the right to do it in the 1970’s as they slipped the Trotskyites/Neoconservatives into the GOP. In case you don’t know your history, the GOP was traditionally the anti-war party. The old slogan, way back when, was “Peace and Prosperity” and they took great pride in not being the ones who got the nation into war. Study up and humble yourself a bit.
As a former soldier I find the very notion of a civilian population sitting at home screaming for our military to invade other nations who have not attacked us, repulsive. The lives of our men in uniform are worth more than that, and they should be brought back home to defend our borders as they were supposed to be doing all along. You want to make kings or topple other governments? Well hire yourself a mercenary crew and go to it, that is another thing Americans used to do, put their money where their mouth is (see the Flying Tigers).
But it is easier, I’ll admit, to sit on the internet and do a war dance.
Meh. We’ll never get our constitutional republic back. I was afraid of this kind of thing once we got some level of power back (the tea party). The neocon element would start whooping it up in their war dance. Keep it up, and we’re done, kiss America good bye.
Slainte.
Oh, have a nice day.
Report Post »Immyfathersservant
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 2:01pmHey JEFFERSON,
•The Weapons of Mass Destruction Control Act of 1992, Title XV of the Defense Authorization Act of 1993, P.L. 102-484 (enacted October 23, 1992), relates “to the proliferation of nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons (weapons of mass destruction) and their related technology . . ..”
Put that in your ******* pipe and smoke it. Maybe I should also provide references from many other countries, including the sacred (bow down to the world) UN. Would a 100 other countries definitions pre-dating 9/11 satisfy you. How about pre-dating 1990? Would that do it? How about I print them all out, roll them up, and shove them in your posterior, maybe then you would understand. My guess is – nope, nothing in the world would change your mind. Not even if some radical group, poisoned an NFL stadium full of people leaving 50,000 dead of neurotoxin, not even that would change your mind. Your hopeless and probably Godless.
Report Post »Immyfathersservant
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 2:13pmAs far as Constitiution Jefferson, your correct. The Congress did not declare WAR. They did however approve of going to war and funded it with every vote since. Not only that, but the use of force was also authorized by the world body (U.N.). The simple reason they “WILL NOT” declare war, they are afraid to give a president that much power. They want to make sure there is a balance of power, and that they (the congress) can control a Presidents action by threatening to defund. It all is very democratic, and absolutely within the constitution.
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Posted on November 11, 2010 at 2:20pm@Immyfathersservant
Hey, fatherservent. That doesn’t mean we should invade another nation, and further, Iraq had none of those, ask Bush, he says so clearly (”we were wrong, but we thought they were there at the time” in paraphrase). Invading other nations that haven’t attacked us first is the act of a tyrannical nation.
Also, what father do you serve pray tell? The Prince of Peace? :)
Also, I note the assumption that being against pre-emptive war means that somehow I’m a liberal/leftist. How interesting. I’m probably more of a Constitutionalist/traditional conservative than you, but you may not know that since your first reaction to anybody questioning war-dancing was to smear them without investigating their words posted in other places.
It’s clear to me that many here do not know what the “independents” turned away from the GOP in 2008. And it‘s equally as clear to me that we’re going to blow it again before 2012 by reverting back to the progressive-neocon war dancing. You folks can learn, or not, but don’t be surprised when your nation disappears within ten years. You will have brought it on yourselves.
We need our troops back home, yesterday. We need to remove our “social programs” and all other unconstitutional programs, for good (incrementally of course). Our debt is going to LITERALLY enslave our children and grandchildren, we can ill afford more military adventurism, or more welfare statism. If we call for the left to give up its coveted welfare state, we’re going to have to purge ourselves of the notion that we have to patrol the planet at all times. Otherwise, no dice, and good by USA.
But hey, don’t listen to me. Just call names and smear me some more. Eventually, the truth will be seen. I just pray it won’t be too late by then.
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Posted on November 11, 2010 at 2:22pm@Immyfathersservant
Sorry guy. It’s “legal”, but it’s not constitutional. Just like Obamacare. It’s legal, but it’s not constitutional.
I don’t give a pair of fetid dingo kidneys whether they “authorized spending”. They were and continue to act in an unconstitutional manner. Either declare war, or get us the hell out. Just like the Founders would have advised.
Report Post »henryclay
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 3:07pm@ Ghostofjefferson
Let the name calling from the non thinking posters roll of your back…
You made one mistake, getting involved on whether there was or wasn‘t WMD’s and what one is….
Fact: We attacked Iraq only because they wouldn’t do what we said…..Is that Constitutional-NO
Fact: WMD’s in form of a Nuke was not present, otherwise Israel would have eliminated Iraq…
Fact: Welfare states/warfare states do go hand in hand…
Fact: Taking out Saddam only boldened Iran the true enemy
Fact: Saddam said he lied about WMD’s to hold off Iran; George Bush says there weren’t none…
Fact: Congress declares war not the president….
Fact: George Bush was progressive just as Obama just the other side progressive………
Truth hurts but get of Ghostofjefferson’s back…
Report Post »Those calling someone names just because they don’t agree with you are behaving as an anarchist/communist/socialist as the book “rules for radicals”…….
henryclay
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 3:15pm@untameablekate
Yes 9/11 was an attack. Dud Congress declare war on Afghanistan?
Second where does Iraq come into play for 9/11? Thought the hijackers were Muslim Saudis?
Third did the U.N. authorize U.S. force in Iraq as we have signed our power under them? Nope! Did Congress declare war on Iraq? Did Iraq attack us?
Answering these questions will help you find TRUTH…..We are a nation of laws…..we must follow ours so politicians should as well….
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 3:23pm@henryclay
Thanks mate, great post(s)!
Slainte
Report Post »Dstarr55
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 4:56pmHate to step in to the mudslinging but Iraq lost a war after they invaded Kuwait and had to abide by certain parameters which they often violated. There was a no-fly zone in which Iraq was on a daily bases shooting at our planes. After 9/11 it was agreed by the UN that a rogue state was not acceptable. The difference in all the other Resolutions that Iraq ignored was Resolution 1441 was not just a piece of paper to President Bush. Even France after the resolution was passed stated the consequences of breaking this resolution meant war and only back pedaled once the resolution was again ignored by Iraq and Bush was going actually hold Iraq accountable. To say Iraq didn’t attack us on 9/11 is accurate but to imply we simply decided to ‘invade’ with no foundation is untrue and deceptive.
Report Post »henryclay
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 6:11pm@DSTARR55
Good info..and yes name calling is a waste of time.
I ask you respectfully to read that you said Iraq broke UN resolution 1441….That isn’t a U.S. resolution. So to say they attacked us by not following a UN resolution is more deceptive is it not?
What gave us, as in the U.S., the right to go against the UN, whom we are in packed with, and invade Iraq without declaring War thru Congress? What did Iraq do to the U.S. to warrant war according to U.S. Constitution?
To be honest I believed every bit of going to war and all the hype on both wars…All the fact misinformation and sensationalism you nudge believing it….But to be honest to myself I have to look at the facts and they goes to Ghostofjefferson’s points.
Report Post »Dstarr55
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 6:52pmWe are part of the UN Security Council and as such there should be an obligation if we sign something to actually mean what we sign – other countries may shrug off their duties but that does not mean we should as well. In addition to the violated UN Resolution the US congress authorized regime change through the Iraq Liberation Act which was signed into law by Bill Clinton – he just never acted on it.
Report Post »Fear The Voices
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 7:01pmGhostofjefferson it totally wrong!
First, a bipartisan congressional committee evaluated all of the 16 items provided to them before they voted for the war. They agreed ALL 16 items had been met; yes, this even includes that they acknowledged something they deemed to be weapons of mass destruction had been met. Nukes are not the only weapon to be called WMD’s. Biological and chemical weapons also fall into this classification…. Do some honest homework.
Secondly, Iraq was in clear violation of the terms of peace from the first Gulf War, we needed no vote or approval of the congress or UN to take action upon them. Just as G.H. Bush, and Clinton took measures to keep them in compliance (or retaliate for violations of those terms), G. W. Bush had the same authority to do so without prior approval.
Third, there was clear evidence that Iraqi leadership aided and supported terrorism. It had been rumored long before the war, and evidence found had supported it.
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Posted on November 12, 2010 at 10:23amIf we didn‘t have free speech we wouldn’t know how the Fools really are. Just let them talk. They will show you who they are everytime.
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