1 Million Fish Go Belly Up in Calif. — ‘Naturally Occurring Event’
- Posted on March 9, 2011 at 8:53am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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REDONDO BEACH, Calif. (AP) — After a night of gusty winds rocking their vessels, boaters in a Southern California marina awakened to find a carpet of silvery fish. About one million lifeless sardines packed into the harbor, stacking 12- to 18-inches deep in some spots.
The sardines apparently depleted the water of oxygen and suffocated after getting lost in the marina, officials said. Despite a daylong effort Tuesday to scoop up fish in nets and buckets, the cleanup can take up to a week and the smell was bound to get worse.
“All indications are it’s a naturally occurring event,” said Andrew Hughan, a California Fish and Game spokesman.
The die-off was unusual but not unprecedented.
“In the world of fishing, this is an afternoon’s catch,” he noted.
The scale was impressive to locals at King Harbor Marina, which shelters about 1,400 boats on the Los Angeles County coast.
“The fishermen say they‘ve never seen anything this bad that wasn’t red tide,” Hughan said, referring to the natural blooms of toxic algae that can kill fish.
Hughan said water samples showed no oils or chemicals that could have contributed to the deaths. He said some of the fish were being shipped to a Fish and Game laboratory for study but the cause was likely to be uncomplicated.
The fish appeared to have come into the marina during the night and probably got lost, he said. The 30-foot-deep marina simply couldn’t provide enough oxygen for such a massive influx of fish.
Two tests of some of the water on Tuesday showed oxygen levels near zero.
Yet other theories abound.
Hughan noted that some fishermen reported waves coming over the harbor breakwaters during the night. That washes bird excrement off the rocks and into the marina, and can cause the water to be depleted of oxygen.
Staci Gabrielli, marine coordinator for King Harbor, said the fish appeared to have moved into the harbor to escape a red tide, then possibly became trapped due to high winds overnight.
Ed Parnell, a marine ecologist at Scripps Institution of Oceanography, called Gabrielli’s theory plausible, although generally he would expect the wind would have mixed oxygen into the water.
Parnell said these types of fish kills are more typically seen in the Gulf of Mexico or the Salton Sea, the enormous desert lake in southeastern California where millions of fish die with some regularity.
Brent Scheiwe, an official of Sea Lab, a Los Angeles Conservation Corps research program, said the fish may have gotten trapped in the marina while sheltering from rough seas overnight.
“They like to follow each other, so it only takes a few” to create a mass migration, he said.
“Over time, they will find their way out, but if it’s rough out there they probably stayed in shelter,” he added.
Redondo Beach police Sgt. Phil Keenan said he believed a predator fish chased the sardines into the marina where their sheer numbers caused them to suffocate.
Raphael Kudela, a professor of ocean sciences at University of California, Santa Cruz, said sardines are not the brightest fish.
“They are that dumb actually,” he said. “They get into shallow water and then can’t figure out how to get back out, and you’ve got such a concentration in one small area they literally pull the oxygen down until they suffocate.”
Fire department, harbor patrol and other city workers were expected to continue dredging up the fish and haul truckloads of them to a landfill, where they will be turned into fertilizer. City officials estimated the cleanup would cost $100,000.
On the water, nature was tackling the problem in other ways. Seals and pelicans flocked to the marina to feast on sardines, and large groups of other fish were seen nibbling at the floating mats of their dead brethren.
Carl Johnson, 59, and his wife, Marie, 57, came from nearby Torrance to see the fish calamity.
“We’ve had that stuff of the hundreds of birds dying in the Midwest, and now this. … You do think about life and death,” he said.
“These fish were swimming freely yesterday,” he said philosophically.
Marie Johnson added: “It’s really sad.”
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Associated Press writer Noaki Schwartz in Los Angeles contributed to this report.
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Comments (152)
Societal Misfit
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:44amWell the price of sardines just went “belly up”! LOL
Report Post »drago
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 12:00pmlol, nice ;p
Report Post »The American
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:40amThis happens in Maine as well, when you let politicians set limits on how many fish you can catch, this is what you get! Here in Maine a few years back they shut down the pogey season early, end result, Large schools of pogeys filled small harbors and suffocated! Nuff said, yes the govt is to blame!
Report Post »jedi.kep
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:27amGod help us when this type of “natural” event begins happening to humanity.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 11:28amlifeless sardines in the harbor represents Union members who are to follow in protest, they are that dumb.
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:25amSEARCH “HAARP” on your computer… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnRPZOUVhJ4&feature=player_embedded#at=30
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:21amWouldn’t it be a shame if the same thing happened to the delta Smelt? Then what reason would they have for turning off the water to the farmers of the San Joaquin Valley?
Got Bait?
Report Post »LIBERALSBEDAMNED
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:19amhttp://www.thetrumpet.com/?q=8017.6661.133.0
Report Post »uffdaubet
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:16amIt’s going to take a lot of flushes to get rid of that many fish.
Report Post »sizzlinsexybeckster
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:12amI don’t think this is a natural disaster…….. when anything goes wrong, it always seems to be man-made….maybe it’s just Obama testing out his new potion for his “lovely” health care plan…. who the hell knows… but I’m moving to WhoVille.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:21amFish die of natural causes all the time. An algae bloom in a pond can deplete the Oxygen and kill hundreds of fish overnight, with no help from man. It’s been going on since men lived in caves and the only pollution they produced came from their buts.
Report Post »drago
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:09amDead sardines, now where’ my crackers?…….
Report Post »Akira Gomi
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:06amNormal event my foot. Harp, Scalar? lets see how many earth quakes occur over the next two weeks, oh wait, there was one in Japan today hmm. There is nothing good afoot with the feds in charge..
hologram5
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:03am‘Naturally Occurring Event’
Report Post »Really?! I’ve been alive for 45 years, I’ve been in the fishing industry for 9 and have never seen anything like this so I call BS on that.
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 11:10amStudy your history.
From here: http://newmeadowspartnership.org/who.htm
“Impetus for founding the NMWP came from two events. The first was a massive fish die-off in 1991, caused by low oxygen levels due to over-enrichment of nutrients in the river (see picture, right).”
This kind of thing does happen, and has happened many times in the past. Even before man showed up, fish has had huge die offs, many of them famous for their severity (~360 million years ago, most fish in the oceans died, for example).
Report Post »RalphWaldoPanza
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:52amApparently sardines have union teachers dumbing down their schools as well.
Report Post »OneRepublic4us
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:05amThat’s a good one!!!!
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:47amCouldn’t have happened to a better state.
Report Post »OneRepublic4us
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:03amNow if they could only figure out a way to get the delta smelt to commit suicide northern CA could go back to growing food instead of sitting idle and becoming a dust bowl.
Report Post »Cabo King
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:40ami blame George Bush
Report Post »eat-more-bacon-USA
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:32amThey are hauling them to a landfill? If they are not diseased or poisoned, why not return them to the sea, and back into the food chain?
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:45amSeriously. Just leave them alone and mother nature will take care of them *very* quickly.
Report Post »workin4alivin
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 12:21pmHmmmm….. that makes sense-won’t happen.
Report Post »DevotedDad
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:30amI am 42 years old and there I have never heard or seen any “normal event’ where 1 million fish have died.
Are you f…ing kidding me?
We have idiots telling us that global warming is happening while half the friggin world is covered in snow. The damn planet is cooling and there is more snow than ever. Hey, why let the truth stop ya there. Just change the name – Climate change.
Now, after one of the worst oil spills in history, a million fish go belly up, and we are not even going to consider that the oil has tainted the fish?
Come on already
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:44amHow does an oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico translate into dead fish in California? That’s one hell of a long enduring and long traveling slick, you’d think somebody would have noticed that.
And yes, actually these kinds of things do happen. Some days in Florida, the beaches are forced to close because entire swarms (think thousands and thousands) of jellyfish wash up dead on the shore with the tide, for example.
Report Post »firstlast
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:59amA million fish went belly up IN THE MARINA on the PACIFIC OCEAN. The Gulf stream flows northeastward into the Atlantic Ocean, where it splits to form the North Atlantic Drift and the Canary Current. Oil from the Gulf spill would more likely be found in Newfoundland or Europe than in Los Angeles
Report Post »Leadthemtothelight
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:02amI have read many reports saying that these mass kill offs of animals are normal. I do have to agree with you though that it is suspect after millions of gallons of oil dispersements were pumped into the gulf. I also read an EPA report about a study on Prince William Sound that stated that most sites still had residual oil after the cleanup some 20+ years later. Perhaps the reason we wonder is if you read the headlines today it reads more like the book of Revelations from the bible.
Report Post »sonseeker
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:09ambuffoon
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:40amI think I might have to agree with you – I am 60 years old and I never heard of million of fish killed or birds just dying in large numbers. Makes a person wonder!!! http://wp.me/pYLB7-IY
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:50am@walkwithme1966
“I think I might have to agree with you – I am 60 years old and I never heard of million of fish killed or birds just dying in large numbers. Makes a person wonder!!!”
I strongly suggest you study history a bit. I‘ve read newspapers from the early 1800’s that talk about entire flocks of birds found dead in some farmer’s field. There was a huge fish die off in 1991in the New Brunswick watershed, ME. It’s a simple thing to look up. Not hearing about something, doesn‘t mean that the something in question hasn’t occurred before.
Report Post »bobodu
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 1:03pmYou would think that a 42 year old was capable of getting educated.
Report Post »http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_kill#Notable_events
11b40
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 4:39pmAre you saying the oil made its way through the Panama canal? Or did the fish run over to the Gulf and get them a drink? Or was it a one way trip and they went through the canal only once? That is just one examination of your (facts?) that you thoughtlessly came up with. Forgive me Dad, did your reasoning ability just progressive from what?
Report Post »liberty12
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 6:40pmI just sent off a complaint to my state EPA this week. Aerial chemical trails spotted and happening right before my very eyes overhead the last (2) Saturdays. There are reports from England, AZ, AR,FL, & Hawaii on U-tube, same MO. Be aware. There have been an unusual amount of reports this year about unexplainable mass fish & bird deaths. A retired house rep. says there have been (40) trees die recently on her 10 acre property in AZ.
Report Post »workin4alivin
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:25amA fine example of what happens when you take away rights. the liberal, marxist, communist of california-this is what they do…
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:20amman,those men have a nasty job,a job it is .i wonder are they union,because if they are those dead fish will be there for days and days, califonia, will just have tax all those sardines for dieing and force all the sardines to pay for it with their lives. stack um ,pack um , and rack um,boys.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:37amThe gulls and pelicans will have those cleaned up in a day or two, tops. Whenever we go deep sea fishing the cleaning of the fish attracts these scavengers like nobody’s business, and they don’t stop until every last cell of protein is gone. They’re ravenous.
Report Post »psst
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:19amPETA is up in arms.
Report Post »They have so many culprits to file lawsuits agin.
Red Tide, the birds that used the rocks as their “turlit” The high waves that washed the bird’s whachamacallit into the Marina waters. Mebbe Jaws that chased them into the marina,mebbe the weather, even the lead dumb sardine that they followed in. Naw. Scratch the lead sardine. That one is in the big waters in the sky.
Ya know. PETA have been telling US for quite some time humans are cannibals for eating fish
Sooo! There’s a silver lining behind every dark cloud. Now US humans won’t be able to eat all those fish.Cannibalism cured.
Bet that lwa suit will include pain and suffering.Beside murder.
nacilbuper
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:15amThis is something bigger folks. Birds falling from the sky, fish die all over the world. Sure, just turn the channel to idol. Stick your heads in the sand.
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:26amThe world is a much smaller, and far more accessible place now that the internet is around. There have been reports of these kinds of events for as long as Man has been communicating with others. When we see these on the internet today, they seem immediate, like they’re happening in our neighborhood. We’re used to local news and things that pertain to our lives taking precedence after all, so reports from around the world of a school here going belly up or a flock of birds there dying seem like it’s all here, now, ten feet from us.
Just try to keep some perspective. 200 years ago the same things were happening, you just didn’t get to hear about them all if you were the average guy sitting in Ohio.
Report Post »bobodu
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 11:42amYou have no trouble find something evil about natural mass deaths among animals but can’t believe our government would allow terrorists to fly planes into skyscrapers. Now THAT’S WEIRD !
Report Post »ClockKing
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:11amSend in the birds!
Report Post »GODSAMERICA
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:05amYeah but I’m sure the fish will be missed more.
Report Post »GODSAMERICA
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:04amMass suicide?
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 8:59amThey will make great fertiziler.
Report Post »Lesterp
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:09amI hope so. Knowing the way California works they may just get dumped in the waste fill.
Report Post »what4
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:54amThey should ship them up to Sacramento and dump them on the capital steps, it would help eliminate the odor comming from that building!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:15amWell fertilizer could be used .. if they weren’t restricting water some of the BEST farmland for a 2 inch fish and thus putting farmers and workers out of business and having LESS food to feed PEOPLE. I guess Nancy P. could use it maybe for her winery grapes.
Report Post »lillianrose
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:51amIndependent water/fish tests must be done- something here is fishy(no pun intended)!
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 12:32pmHate to burst your emd of the world theory, but fish need oxygen to survive. Lots of it. When the O2 level goes below what they need, (different fish have different requirements) they go belly up FAST. According to the article the level was nearly zero. Fish require at least 30 % dissolved oxygen.
Report Post »We raise a few trout and most springs in PA are oxygen difficent, therefore we use aereators at all times.
Eblaze44
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 5:57pmCat food. or. fertilizer – send them to the rose garden in DC
Report Post »Mikee T
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 8:58amUh Oh….Nancy….quick….it was the republicans and tea partiers again…..remember ? You saw it in the sixties…..when you were taking LSD…etc…..hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
PA PATRIOT
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:01amSpeaking of Nancy
Let us be reminded of one year ago today.
“But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.”
Report Post »March 9, 2010
FORMER Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi
MR_ANDERSON
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:14amIt must have been the violent rhetoric!
Report Post »NSDQ
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:15amWars and rumors of wars the sky and oceans running with blood, earthquakes and famine seems Ive heard this before?
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:18amIf that happened somewhere in middle America, the enviromentalist would have a fit, confiscate everyones boats and close down the harbor for good. They would shut down all the businesses and ruin peoples lives. Thank goodness there were no farmers working nearby. But since it happened in an elite part of the fruit and nut state, they will just clean up the fish and forget about it……….I hate California!
tobywil2
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:18amPerhaps, a fish school instead of a school of fish is the solution. Another opportunity for a humanitarian Earmark. http://commonsense21c.com/
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:19amIf you’ve ever seen dolphins herd sardines and other small fish into huge bait-balls, this kind of thing wouldn’t seem too out of the ordinary, numbers wise. They travel in huge schools, one straying off course and in shallow water probably would quickly deplete the oxygen.
Report Post »jbl8199
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:21amOh no!!!!!!!! It’s the end of the world everyone panic. AHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Ironeagle
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:26amI’m sure the EPA willl now come out with a regulation they will slap on God to prevent this in the future.
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:27amWouldn’t want to clean up that stinky mess.
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:34amRational Man
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:18am
If that happened somewhere in middle America, the enviromentalist would have a fit, confiscate everyones boats and close down the harbor for good. They would shut down all the businesses and ruin peoples lives. Thank goodness there were no farmers working nearby. But since it happened in an elite part of the fruit and nut state, they will just clean up the fish and forget about it……….I hate California!
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That is soooooo true…..
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:38amI guess Nancy Pelosi must have gone swimming in the dark; and the oxygen burned off from the sheer terror experienced by the fish swimming in a blind panic.
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:47amcould it be that 500 million climate change rocket of Obama’s that crashed and burned a few days ago? Way to go you lying environmentalists, you killed all of those fish and polluted the water with all of that fuel. Shame on you
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:49amSomething “fishy” going on here….
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:54amWe use to have this type problem EVERY year in CHICAGO back in the early 70′s.. think the fish were Adlevise or something like that.. they were all over the top of the water and got washed on to the beaches.. other than having to watch so you didn’t step on a bone.. the gulls ate them.. people went swimming in the clean area’s .. and OMG those same people are STILL alive today.. No headline news .. nothing..
Report Post »randy
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:00amJust curious where all the seagulls are? Or did they mysteriously die off also?
Report Post »You’d think the birds would be swarming all over this.
tobywil2
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:02amSnowleopard: You are partially right. During her weekly commute, Ms. Pelosi’s broomstick passed too low over the marina and the wake depleting the oxygen content of the water. http://commonsense21c.com/
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:12amFunny that this is in the state that has restricted the water and thus the growing of food on some of the BEST land in the country for a 2 INCH FISH! Perhaps “someone” is trying to tell them something. Food for people is more important than a “fish”.
Report Post »jakartaman
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:22amWhere is the fish union when they need them.
Report Post »Unions will go just like these fish due to a lack of brains and oxygen!
lillianrose
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 10:44am@RANDY- I was wondering the same – the seals and gulls would be going after them naturally. What about the oxygen being naturally replenished from currents flowing thru there?
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 11:11amId you were living in that run off water you’d go belly up as well.
Report Post »docgreen
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 11:20amHey people thats not the only thing thats bad! I just read this and we may want to follow this! This will send shivers up your back!
http://abcnews.go.com/International/electronic-warfare-north-korea-nears-completion-electromagnetic-pulse/story?id=13081667
If this is true someones going to have to do something about it! OMG, EarthQuakes, Fish, Birds, I guess the only thing left is humans!…..
Report Post »right-wing-waco
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 11:39amAnything this “fishy” has to be George Bush’s fault. Watch the price of Sardines. Lets dump them in Nancy’s yard.
Report Post »ozz
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 1:45pm@ ironeagle
ROFLMMFAO! :D
Report Post »gofigureinternational
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 2:38pm>“On the water, nature was tackling the problem in other ways. Seals and pelicans flocked to the marina to feast on sardines, and large groups of other fish were seen nibbling at the floating mats of their dead brethren.”<
So instead, the taxpayer will spend $100K of tax dollars to clean it up (likely underestimated) so that the boat owners do not have to suffer the indignity of smelling fish at a marina and cleaning pelican post sardine residue off their expensive boat…whoops, Yacht. Maybe they should apply for FEMA dollars as a “natural disaster” so all of America can contribute ‘their fair share’. Nature would have accomplished this clean-up free with some fat seals and pelicans being the result.
Secondly, if ‘large groups of other fish were nibbling’, wouldn’t that negate the need for testing this water for oxygen levels if that was supposedly the cause of this?
Report Post »fedfreakingup
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 6:29pmi’m sure it had nothing to do with all the oil that miraculously disappeared after the BP spill!
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 6:57pmWhere have I seen this before? Oh yeah……The Bible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:16pmSend all the little fishes to ms potus. Let her plant them in her garden like a good little Pilgrim. Make sure they are RIPE when she gets them.
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