2012 Hopeful Herman Cain Blasts Obama for Omitting Declaration’s ‘Creator’
- Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:32am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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Herman Cain may not have officially declared his presidential candidacy yet, but he sure sounds like he’s on the campaign trail.
Appearing yesterday with Greta Van Susteren, Cain discussed what people should look for in a new president (not surprisingly, it sounded a lot like himself) and also took a shot at Barack Obama. Cain’s jab focused on Obama omitting “on purpose”* the word “Creator” during past recitations of the Declaration of Independence. He went on to extol the Founders, saying they “got it right.”
According to Cain, Obama’s omissions mean “something’s wrong.” And while he admitted he is a religious man, he did not go as far as to say Obama is not:
*It should be noted that the White House has never admitted the omissions were on purpose.
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Comments (283)
ImahaIngttta
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:01amAllen West/Herman Cain vs. Obama/Biden in 2012…Think about it….
Report Post »moreteaplease
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:05amNot a bad ticket if they stick to their guns.
Report Post »absolutely
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:10amDitto! Absolutely
Report Post »neverending
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 3:12pmHow awesome that would be. We should be so lucky
Report Post »MONEY_FOR_NOTHING
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 7:16pmThis ******* will campaign for that ticket all day long. West/Cain or Cain/West. Both have earned my respect and have demonstrated the leadership we need to right this ship…
Report Post »Ella
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 9:08pmI too would be glad to vote that ticket assuming what we see and hear is what we get.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:58amI will never vote for a former Federal Reserve Chairman for President.
It is a SERIOUS conflict of interests.
Report Post »Stopit
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 9:10pmWhile it is worth looking into more, my understanding is that he was not an employee but a citizen’s board leader of that regional branch. Not like he was a member of the CFR like Newt, Bush, & Soros.
I’ve heard too much of him on the radio to question his sincerity and strong conservative stance. He may or may not be anti-Fed at this point, but given more information it does appear he changed his comment position about them.
Bottom line he genuinely cares about the future of our nation, and is the best leader I’ve seen in the pack yet.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:53amCain was elected to the Board of Directors of the National Restaurant Association in 1988. In 1994 to 1995, he served as Chairman of the Board of Directors. While leading this association, he developed the organization into a pro-business voice via national debates and speeches concerning health care reform, employment policies, and taxation. Following this experience, he was appointed to serve on the Economic Growth and Tax Reform Commission in addition to serving as Chairman and Member of the Board of Directors for the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He then became a senior advisor to the 1996 Dole/Kemp campaign for the Presidency.
Report Post »Stopit
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 12:21pmThe 1996 Dole/Kemp campaign may be a good indicator.
Report Post »Thanks
Sinista MACE
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 12:46pmYea ,they would end the IRS, but leave us slaves to the Federal Reserve, who Cain doesn’t think needs auditing and ending.
Report Post »Independent American
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:58amIt would be a nice touch to use a spell checker on the headlines and text of your stories. It is distracting to see continual spelling errors on so many stories.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:57amHerman has got my vote if Christie doesn’t run; and btw, if Chrisite says he doesn‘t want to run then I guess that’s it. You can’t run for prez and not want to do so. The attitude has to be equal with the apptitude.
Report Post »gman46
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:54amNo one can pressure him, but this is more than him or any of us, it’s a duty to the country no matter what. We need someone to rise up to the challenge and make hard decisions.
Report Post »STQ
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:56amHow about Cain/West…..kinda kool
Report Post »LIBERALSBEDAMNED
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:54amThis man runs, this man has my vote PERIOD.!!
Report Post »Hungry_i
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:52amSpellcheck the title, Seidl. Sheesh.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:58amlol
Report Post »RECOVERING-LIBERAL-IN-WOODSIDE-CA
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:05amI agree…. who is writing these titles? Are you an educated liberal or an uneducated conservative. Kan’t u spel?
Report Post »neverending
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:52amThis man is a true and genuine leader. I so hope he does run. What a honor it would be to have a President we could believe, trust, and be proud of once again. His speech in Iowa was awesome. Brings so much to the table with all his successes, his common sense and most of all his love of country.
Report Post »GODSAMERICA
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:51amOf course everyone knows that it was on purpose! I’m still waiting for him to say that allah created this nation.
Report Post »Sinclare
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:51amI’ve already got a Cain for President 2012 sticker on the back of my truck. Had to pay for it myself but it’s well worth it.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:03amNot to be confused with McCain. That kind of similarity could be a liability for him with the uninformed masses.
Report Post »RepairmanJack
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:04amWe have a hand-made sign on our rear car window!
Herman is such a refreshing change from “politics-as-usual” like Romney, Huckabee, et.al.
Our prayers and support are with him all the way.
Report Post »Untameable-kate
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:36amHey TEXAS, I was just thinking that it would actually save money for McCain supporters who could just scrape off the Mc and have a free bumper sticker!
Report Post »dat bee
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:37amThanks…my thoughts too! His strength, knowledge, integrity and vision, give me reason to support and rally behind him. We need more than someone to just beat BHO! We need to retain our pride and American Values. I’d also support Alan West in the mix! He is also a champion for We The People!
Report Post »theLarry
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:51amSPELL CHECK!! Omiting Decleration
Report Post »joan k
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:10amYeah that spelling error was crying out to me, too. SPELL CHECK needed!
Report Post »OUTOFTOWN
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:50amLike this!
Report Post »americansfightingforcommonsense
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:45amOh yes, we know it was on purpose. Obama doesn‘t like this country’s priciples or our Constitution. Unlike Michelle, he isn’t proud of it yet.
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:52amVery good response….I agree.
Report Post »Untameable-kate
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:44amI would love to see someone in the presidency who understands the free market and Cain sounds like he has a great grasp on it. Business men are what we need to fix the economy, not politicians who put their own self interest before the good of the country.
Report Post »gman46
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:51amAgreed whole heartily! We need this guy and guys like Christie and West. It’s like George Washington said, “have I not done enough for my Country?” No gentlemen you have not, we need you, not lawyers or politicians we need people understands Capitalism and Free enterprise and most importantly small Government. It’s nothing more than a duty to your country and the people who need solid leadership.
Report Post »’nuff said.
Epic Fail
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:44amCain/West/Christie or any combination…. 2012!!!!!
Report Post »ClaudiaH
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:57amI agree with you 100%. I’ve heard Herman Cain speak a few times…he’s got my vote… he needs to make himself more visible. I’m telling everyone I know about him.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:58amI agree. At this point anyone but Obama would be better.
Report Post »Epic Fail
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:09amThe media tries to paint the Tea Party as racists because they don’t like Obama. I wish Cain/West would win in 2012 and the media would see the Tea Party rally around Cain/West. Then the media would have to find another fictional reason for the Tea Party to be racists.
Report Post »1959
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:43amGod Bless Herman Cain!
Report Post »absolutely
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:43amGo Herman, partial to you, it’s my middle name. Hey, I don’t know if you have a chance, but I like you and you are a true AMERICAN not AFRICAN-american if you get the difference. I kind of like Allen West, another true AMERICAN better, only because I feel like we need a Jack Bauer in the Presidency at the moment, it’s just the way I feel. You guys need to get more visable soon all I keep hearing about are the same ol, same ol, we can‘t blow this election in 2012 or it’s over for our kids. Absolutely
Report Post »MidAmerican
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:42amHerman brings fresh air to the mix. I like him.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:42amAlthough I LOVE Mr. Cain…we’d better come up with someone absolutely “perfect” or I really see Obama elected again in 2012…getting the “Republican” nomination is going to be harder than beating Obama!
Report Post »gman46
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:03amCome on Obama is far from perfect, it’s the media that covers up for him.
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 2:44pmNobody is perfect, that’s a given.
Report Post »You guys are going to beat yourselves up and very likely lose the 2012 election because nobody is going to please all of you – and one of your central principles is ‘no compromise’. A losing formula, life is compromise whether you want to believe it or not.
colascguy
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:42amhttp://www.hermancain.com/
Report Post »Untameable-kate
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:05amThank you for the info.
Report Post »Mettag
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:42amHerman who? We need a good well known candidate to be the Obama machine. My money is on Huckabee. But I think Romney will get the nomination.
Report Post »colascguy
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:45amWe do not need anyone well know. What we need is a clear concise message.
Report Post »Tyrone
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:55amI want a candidate that means what they say and say what they mean. Enough of this McCain wishy washy can’t we all get along BS. Definantly do not need a candidate that is afraid of the LAMERS.
Report Post »ImahaIngttta
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:57amWas Obama well known? Was Bill Clinton well known?
Report Post »Untameable-kate
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:18amI’ll take Cain over all the known RINOs.
Report Post »Mettag
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:51amObama went well know. When he started running. But he is POTUS and moderator popular among independents. True independents decide elections. We need someone not crazy, known, and popular in order to beat the Obama-union machine. I don’t Cain can do it or Palin. I don’t think Huckabee can either. That’s why I think Romney will be the candidate.
Report Post »Southpaw
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 1:52pmWe also do not need to pick the candidate from those NBC calls the ‘frontrunners’. Why we continue to make choices based on who our ideological enemies say we should is moronic. I’ll take Cain or West over Huckabee or Romney ANY day. PLEASE let us remember that the primary is as if not more important to vote in. The last thing we need is another McCain, Dole, etc. etc. who has ZERO chance. I believe the best candidate is one who can say, “I don’t really care what YOU believe, this is what I believe. If you agree, vote for me”. That type of leadership has been lacking for the last 23 years or so.
Report Post »EdgeOfForever
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 4:05pmNo Huckabee No Romney. Both are RINOs and should be discarded. Romney is the state media’s pick so that would a H#LL NO for me. I will take any two of the following: Bachman, Palin, West, Cain and Demint.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:41amCain has a head on his shoulders, He thinks and speaks well. I need to learn more about him. He might be POTUS material.
Report Post »CURMUDGEON
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:45amCheck out his talk show out of Atlanta.. He’s the real deal and has my vote, if Mike Pence doesn’t run..
Report Post »PavZilla
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:41amSo glad the typo in the article was fixed. But Boy Howdy – Deceleration of Independence did pack some mental punch as it’s happening all too quickly!
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:36amVery presidential! Go Herman!
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:53amI didn’t love his take on Libya, but I didn’t hate it either. At least he admits there are things he is not able to know.
Report Post »Untameable-kate
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:12amTexasCommonSense
Report Post »He isn‘t in office so he can’t have all the info he would be privy to as president. He has alot to learn as does everyone who wants to be president. I guess that he would necessarily have to surround himself with knowledgeable people, unlike BO who already knows EVERYTHING and surrounds himself with buffoons. I think he would put the country before his own self interests unlike most polititions.
TexasCommonSense
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:22amUntameable-kate, like they say, sometimes it’s not what you know, but who you know. I have no doubt Mr. Cain would surround himself with people who are very knowledgeable in foreign policy. I hope all is well in the great state of Arizona.
Report Post »patriotteapress
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:10pmAnything but a RINO would look Presidential next to Obama. I hope he’s around long enough to debate him. Obama will have a hard time with anyone that he can’t play the race card on.
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Report Post »ABC, may the God of Creation make you as smart as you think you are. Seems like I heard/read somewhere that “humility is the beginning of wisdom.” I‘m just one of the ignorant horde so I’m probably wrong . We need more smart people. Keep seeking! You might just find something.
Marylou7
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:34amAnyone except a progressive or marxist knows it was on purpose.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:43amYes .. .intentional and repeatedly
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:52amOf course it was on purpose. If you believe you’re rights came from government, and not your creator, then you’ll believe government can take away your rights. Communists have used that philosophy for years.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:54amOf course it was on purpose. If you believe your rights came from government, and not from your creator, then you’ll believe government can take away your rights. Communists have used that philosophy for years.
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:00amThe reason BHO didn‘t mention the Creator in his recitations of the Declaration of Independence is because he thinks he’s the Immaculation. Al Gore may think he created the Internet, but BHO thinks he created man in his image.
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:01amI believe Mr.Cain has a good heart, and A LOT of integrity. He exudes strength and confidence, and to quote Joe Biteme; “He’s clean and articulate.”
Report Post »We need more men like him in government. Go get ‘em, Herman!
Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:01amYes, and BHO doesn‘t think he’s destroying the country on purpose either.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:03amDoes anybody think Herman Cain’s history of defending the Federal Reserve and the fact that he WORKED for them (Former Chairman on the Board of Directors for the Federal Reserve Bank of NY) have any bearing at all on his viability as a candidate?
It seems like a severe conflict of interest to me, look what we get with Tim Geithner as Treasury Sec., former head of the NY Fed…
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:07amHe has my vote. If we can get him past the RINOs and Republican “leadership”.
Report Post »Stonewall_Jackson
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:08amI must admit I don’t know to much about Mr Cain. I will be looking to see and learn more regarding his beliefs. I do like Rep Allan West and hopefully the likes of Mr Cain and Allan West will give us options in 2012 we have not had before.
2012 is shaping up to be full of decisions for us tea partiers.
Report Post »Miguelito
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:15amDeny Me before man and I will deny you before the Father!
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:15amSinista MACE, I think it was the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. I see your point though.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:19amSinister Mace:
you like anagrams.
I agree, yet WE both already know that the deck is stacked against this country and it’s only a matter of time until they pull the plug. Everything else is theater, bad theater at that.
Ron Paul/ Rand Paul 2012.
Report Post »tobywil2
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:23amPerhaps, Obama deleted the word because he had never seen the document before. His performance certainly indicates that he has little familairity with either the Declaration of Independence or the U. S. Constitution! http://commonsense21c.com/
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:30amAny Constitutional Scholar such as Obama is aware of the intent to omit Creator. Obama is trying to appeal to everyone all the while distancing himself from true christians.
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:31amI LOVE HERMAN CAIN. He is who he says he is. Do any of you notice how often lately Obama talks about being Christian? Even Eric Holder made some remark about Christian. They are trying to buy our vote in 2012 by all of a sudden claiming they’re Christian. This sounds hollow to me and unbelievable. Joe Wilson said: “you lie” and my heart knew he was right.
Report Post »Too many folks in D.C. will sell their souls to have a well paying, elite office. Herman Cain, I believe, is a true honest person. A man we can trust to say what he means and we can take it to the bank. Unlike Obama who bought many voters with his lying words that ticked the ears and felt good. Well, I’m here to say I saw through it, but too many bought the lies and are sorry people now.
Curioso
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:34amCain / West or West / Cain for President and Vice President in 2012 got my support and vote.
Report Post »SavingtheRepublic.com
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:42amClearly on purpose, BHO doesnt like the Constitution. We all know this as fact b/c he is on tape saying its a charter of negative liberties. Fed govt is to restricted on what it can’t do to the people……
Who thinks like this? How does one aspiring to be Pres think like this and get elected? Dont answer I already know. Cain is dead on and he should be in campaign mode NOW. The sooner candidates start campaigning the better, heck BHO has been doing it since inauguration day!
BHO‘s day of reckoning is coming from whomever he will finally be up against in ’12. You have guys like Cain who are actual business men, and who love this country and the Constitution. Any of them will take BHO apart given the opportunity.
Any of these people run they will have my vote:
Cain, West, Christie, Bachmann, Palin(maybe)….. Trump
Yea I said Trump, he is the only one to date who has made it clear he will thunder away on other nations and not bow down; tell them to pay up! NO ONE running has ever said that. He knows how to run a business and knows what FAILURE is like! Unlike BHO, Trump has said he loves his country!
Report Post »http://www.SavingtheRepublic.com
the_zazzy
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:45amSaw this guy last night…love him!! If I voted for him instead of B.O. in 2012, would I still be racist?
Report Post »JohnAdams4Prez
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:51amHerman Cain is the real deal. I’m a long time listener of his along with all the other racists in Atlanta!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 12:01pmMr Obama‘s ’forgetting’ to mention of a creator is a deliberate insult to all who believe in a Creator regardless of their religion, he seeks the denigration of any and all religion not of the collective salvation junk he holds to his heart, and also that not approved by the state (his administrations own cronies) to be a hostile and subversive force against him.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 12:01pmabc, neither Darwin, nor anyone else, can explain how life began in the first in order to evolve.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 12:02pm@ DUSTYLUV
If the candidacy for president comes to Herman Cain and Alan West running….I’m going for Alan West.
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 12:02pm@CURIOSO. You got it! What a winning ticket. Love Allen West too. West/Cain or Cain/West. Wow, what a winning ticket. I’m almost afraid of all the old worn out people running or plan on it. Sometimes staying with re-runs reminds me of how we got stuck with McCain and got Obama. Refuse to go to polls again with a clothes pin on my nose and get stuck with the worst of worst.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 12:12pmabc, the Declaration of Independence doesn’t mention God at all. It simply says “creator”. If you believe your creator was aliens from outer space, that’s fine. The point is it was not government who granted these rights, that is why they are called inalienable, meaning the government cannot take them away unless you violate the rights of another. There are some kooky theories out there, but I do not know anyone who thinks government was their creator.
Report Post »Angry_Bird
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 12:20pmWould love to see him debate Barry, Go Herman !
Report Post »MOVETERAN
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 12:31pmGo get’em Herman. I feel the need to ask if anyone alive knows, has there ever been so many idiots and morons in Congress at the same time?
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 12:36pm@abc – Hear me now and believe me later. Gods words came before man in which he made man and said it was good.
Report Post »RJO
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 12:41pmI’m very impressed by Mr. Cain. He has the solid business/economic background…has style and is able to express himself in a very effective way. He’s also solid on the important social issues of the day and shows something that we so badly need…..LEADERSHIP QUALITY!
Report Post »abc
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 1:02pmPoverty Sucks, you are entitled to that opinion. But to become offended when someone else holds a different view is pretty dumb, since you cannot prove that what you believe is factually true.
Common Sense, actually, since Darwin we have established theories on how a single-cell life form can develop, which better explain creation than anything written in any one of the fairy tale or mythical books that organized religions offer. That we haven’t developed the technology to do it yet (although we are close) doesn’t mean much. The idea for flight and theory that man could undertake it someday preceded the actual technological accomplishment by some 500 years or more. As for the comments about the benefits of a creator establishing our inalienable rights, I would take issue. There are millions of examples of dictators controlling populations in the name of a creator. Further, if one really believed that distant and perhaps long-dead aliens created life on earth–as opposed to an omnipotent, all-knowing and actively present God–then they wouldn‘t form much of a bulwark to protect their creation’s progeny (i.e., us). No, the best protection against tyranny and inhumane acts is the same ongoing commitment to it and ongoing vigilence against threats to it…all of which are manmade in the first place. We say we are important, then we invent God in our image to bolster that fact. I say, drop the mythology and recognize what we are doing. It is perfectly rational to do unto others as you would have them do unto you, without needing to believe Christ was God. It provides all the benefits without all the dangers that organized religion, with its continual ideological struggles, wars, psychological slavery, and the rest of it. At least, that’s my reading of history.
Report Post »NUTHRDUMBCONSERVATIVE
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 1:09pmThere is no way Obama’s teleprompter accidently forgot about the Creator. The point is that Obama and his advisors know he is perceived to have little regard for our founding fathers, for the traditional Christian origins of the principles in our founding documents and for those of us who believe that our country is exceptional because it is founded on principles and a reliance on moral character being stronger than moral degradation. In this light, if he had any regard for those of us who believe in those founding principles because we believe in judgment of a higher power, he would make every effort to intentionally dispel the perceptions. Instead he very consciously avoided a term that would upset those who feel the opposite. The only reason is that he wants and needs the support of those who believe that our country is not just flawed but evil in its founding.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 1:24pmHerman Cain is the man!
Report Post »@ABC “since Darwin we have established theories on how a single-cell life form can develop”
And that’s all Darwin had was a theory. Where’s the missing link? Has anyone found it yet?
And they never will.
trolltrainer
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 1:35pmABC,
You are just smart enough that you are totally blind to your own ignorance! You write:
“Common Sense, actually, since Darwin we have established theories on how a single-cell life form can develop, which better explain creation than anything written in any one of the fairy tale or mythical books that organized religions offer.
That we haven’t developed the technology to do it yet (although we are close) doesn’t mean much. The idea for flight and theory that man could undertake it someday preceded the actual technological accomplishment by some 500 years or more…”
Number one, “we” do not have a CLUE on how life began from nothing. That is precisely why evolutionists are so quick to point out that their theories do not include origins. To this day we do not see any single celled organisms evolving. We only see mutations of bacteria that die off after a generation and have no benefit. This is why evolutionists are not even trying to twist scientific fact in this arena, they know it is a losing battle.
But your further statement, the part I separated from the first, is so blatantly ignorant in its illogical fallacy that it is beyond amazement that you would even go there! We do not yet have the technology to create life? In all of our INTELLIGENCE? Created in GOD’S image like we are? Yet we STILL cannot create life even in a controlled laboratory environment? Maybe because it is too complex even for us? Even in our age of scientific enlightenment, where we land men on the moon and explore the deepest trenches of the oceans…We still cannot duplicate what supposedly happened by accident, with ingredients on hand, totally unguided, and kept happening that life evolved into what we are today…
And you think you are so much smarter than us “fairy tale believing” Christians! ROFL…
Report Post »Dale
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 1:39pmSinista MACE;
Check your facts, he was with Kansas City fed (not NY).
Report Post »Dale
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 1:46pmabc;
I spoke with a Darwin believer and confessed I had not read ‘Origin of the Species”, his bible. I told him I would be happy to read it if he could find one example of a species evolving into a HIGHER species. He said he would, I have yet to hear from him. SO, where is the evidence? Can you provide one example. That is why evolution is STILL a theory! If ANY evidence existed it would be very easy to find, yet you and other evolutionists continue searching. Good luck, I prefer wasting my time with computer games.
Report Post »G.W. Dobbs
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 1:59pmThe FIRST time Obama ommitted “Creator”, I chalked it up to an error, a mistake; but when he did it a SECOND time, I realized he did it on purpose. Obama does and says and acts as HE ALONE is in complete control. The COURTS said it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL for Obama to block Oil Drilling in the Gulf; but he does as he alone desires, NO DRILLING.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 2:05pmIn Obama’s attempt to be inclusive he excluded a large segment of the population. When will liberals realize that you cannot escape excluding different groups !!!!!!!!! Father’s Day excludes mothers and vice versa. Veteran’s Day excludes non-veterans. Black History month excludes whites. Gay pride parades excludes heterosexuals. To exclude Creator from the statement may include those who don’t believe in a Creator but excludes those who do believe in one and that that is where inalienable rights come from. One being the small minority and the other being the vast majority. When the minority is preferred over the majority that is called Tyranny or in social terms…apartheid. You can give me that BS about separation all day and it does not apply to this scenario because there was no endorsement of one religion over another. If the framers intended what so many argue for in this regard then why did they (the framers) state it that way in our main document ??????????????
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 2:08pm@ TROLLTRAINER…………..Agree 100% and I would point out that even if by some “breakthrough” in technology we could form life it proves absolutely nothing about origins…know why? We are starting with certain chemicals and substances that at one point NEVER existed. We are not creating out of nothing new chemicals or substances in any way. We are using what already exists !!!!!!!!! It proves nothing on origins at all in any way even though many like ABC thinks that it would.
Report Post »Mad_as_Hell...
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 2:21pmCan I get an AMEN!
Report Post »NUTHRDUMBCONSERVATIVE
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 2:31pmABC
Report Post »If you are the intellectual that you pose to be you should be able to follow your beliefs through to a few logical conclusions: Those who commit heinous acts will use whatever means are practical to justify their acts to their audience. Declaring themselves to be guided by religious principles does make it so and does not reflect on the merit of those principles.
Genesis was “written” several thousand years ago during a time when very little of what we now understand about science was know, even you with your superior intellect would not be able to convey the knowledge we have today to those of the time with an accuracy that would survive so long so well. And how simple will your knowledge be in 3000 more years?
What exactly is it about the basic principles of the major religions that you believe is destructive to society? Don’t kill? Don’t steal? Don’t envy? Be true and consistent in your principles? Treat others as you want treated? Those sound terrible don’t they?
If you want to believe that somehow if it weren’t for religion there would be absolute paradise (Isn’t that kind of like a religious belief?), you would need to develop some method of dispensing the wisdom of the ages that does not lead to utter chaos or brutal tyranny. What basis would you use? Would you develop codes of conduct and ethics? Would they not end up looking a lot like religions?
SheriS
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 3:04pmThis is a man who possesses leadership capabilities! He has a proven record and know what he is doing unlike the current resident of the WH! Has a lot of appeal to a lot of people!
Report Post »FedupinFlorida2
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 3:36pmABC, You missed the main point while worrying about powdered wigs. Man hasn’t changed! We have hate and love and have war and peace also good and bad and smart and dumb. This what the Constitution governs, Man, not cell phones and Ipads. Power corrupts and it has been known way before Darwin and the Constitution. Three branches of power, checks and balances. Powdered wigs and all those guys lets call them Dudes to bring it into the present knew what they were doing. History is constantly changing and hopefully man will be become better but there will always be a chance for good and bad and corruption.
Report Post »UnkleBuck
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 3:58pmYou GOTTA wonder how black Christians (or those that “call” themselves such) defend Obama at this point when we have such glaring opposing examples of just what can be achieved by blacks in America these days. Furthermore, what kind of example is a schlubb like Jesse Jackson, Jr. demanding that a new Constitution provide an iPod, and a laptop to every child. The blind depravity in this country just gets more blind by the day.
Report Post »abc
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 4:07pmAnonymous, gravity acting on your body and germs causing disease are just theories as well. You give yourself away as being very uneducated when you discount a theory. To the scientific mind, all knowledge is probabilistic, so a theory, while overturnable, can have a very high probability assigned to it. Evolution would be one such theory. Got it?
Trolltrainer,
“Number one, “we” do not have a CLUE on how life began from nothing. That is precisely why evolutionists are so quick to point out that their theories do not include origins. To this day we do not see any single celled organisms evolving. We only see mutations of bacteria that die off after a generation and have no benefit. This is why evolutionists are not even trying to twist scientific fact in this arena, they know it is a losing battle.”
None of what you wrote is true. We do have theories on how the first single-cell organism emerged from a soup of amino and fatty acids. Just because you don’t understand those theories, doesn’t mean they do not exist or are not solid explanations. The idea of some magical life force behind life that we cannot comprehend ended as a credible idea more than 100 years ago, so you might want to update your reading to more modern books on the subject. Evolution absolutely applies to origins of life and not just species, contrary to what you say. And if you think bacteria are not mutating, then let me introduce you to the very real problem of antibiotic-resistant staph infections that have become a real problem in our hospitals today. There are a bunch of drug companies and researchers at NIH that will straighten you out, since they are devoting their lives to a problem you say doesn’t exist. And given how little you know, I won’t even bother to contest your totally bogus claim that evolutionists are losing a battle with know–nothing creationists and other religious frauds. When you are sick, you should thank those scientists (rather than God) for offering modern medical drugs for your recovery rather than maligning those folks, even if they do rely on darwinian theory to develop dosing regimins for such products.
“But your further statement, the part I separated from the first, is so blatantly ignorant in its illogical fallacy that it is beyond amazement that you would even go there! We do not yet have the technology to create life? In all of our INTELLIGENCE? Created in GOD’S image like we are? Yet we STILL cannot create life even in a controlled laboratory environment? Maybe because it is too complex even for us? Even in our age of scientific enlightenment, where we land men on the moon and explore the deepest trenches of the oceans…We still cannot duplicate what supposedly happened by accident, with ingredients on hand, totally unguided, and kept happening that life evolved into what we are today…”
There is much that happened by accident that we cannot replicate, so why you find that surprising is beyond me. It took billions of years of natural trial and error to create life, so it shouldn’t be surprising that it takes some time for us to catch up. We only discovered in the last few years how to build the scaffolding for human organs, but now we can construct a beating heart. So we are getting closer. But we are not there yet.
“And you think you are so much smarter than us “fairy tale believing” Christians! ROFL…”
I never made claims about my own intelligence, which is kind of irrelevant. I am not doing the scientific research at issue.
Report Post »Red Meat
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 4:08pmCain should run for Rep or Gov first. No way I’m voting for ANYONE that has no voting record.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 4:09pmI am SOOOOOO ready for someone intelligent to shred Obama and wipe that obnoxious smirk off of his face during a debate. I was screaming at the TV during the last debates when McCain let opportunities go by and didn’t challenge the man-child. I want to see Obama with the “deer in the head-lights” look, stammering, trying to talk his way out of his lies.
Report Post »abc
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 4:17pmWatch,
“I would point out that even if by some “breakthrough” in technology we could form life it proves absolutely nothing about origins…know why? We are starting with certain chemicals and substances that at one point NEVER existed. We are not creating out of nothing new chemicals or substances in any way. We are using what already exists !!!!!!!!! It proves nothing on origins at all in any way even though many like ABC thinks that it would.”
Please tell me which chemicals and substances you are referring to. We know what the primordial soup looked like, and those substances are the same ones that exist today and which all life needs to survive–or at least nearly all of it. Also, you are wrong to say we do not create new substances, since we’ve created unstable elements that do not exist in nature, and we’ve created subatomic particles that normally do not exist as well. But in any case, if we create life in a lab using substances that the fossil record shows were in abundance over one billion years ago, that is pretty compelling evidence.
Report Post »realindependent
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 4:18pmUm hate to break it too you guys but not all founding fathers were Christians. Just thought id say that.
Also we have a seperation of church and state in the constitution for all you constitution lovers.
Also we left England so we could practice any religion not just Christianity. Christianity might be the number one religion in the U.S. that doesnt make us a christian nation. We allow all religions thats what makes America—America….and God blesses it. Whichever God you believe in…
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 4:20pmABC, “We do have theories on how the first single-cell organism emerged from a soup of amino and fatty acids.”
They are still just theories. Talk about believing in fairytales. Something complex enough to heal and reproduce itself just “emerges” magically from basic building blocks? From where did the basic building blocks come?
We can go far deeper than cellular structure and into atomic structure. The deeper we go the fewer answers science has. God created all things including science. Right down to the very structure of the atom.
Without God there would be no science.
Report Post »realindependent
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 4:28pmSomething else ive gleamed from all the hatred spwen from am talk radio. How BO is a muslim kenyan anticolonialist marxist maoist communist loving “Other” Was it you guys that kept bringing up that he sat in Jeremiah Wrights church for 20 years? You know thats a christian church right? Might not be “your” type of christianity, but christian none the less. So that was just a front? He faked it for 20 years to throw you off when he became president? Just like you birthers who say he wasnt born here. So the state of his Hawaii lied about his birth, and the 2 state papers that had his birth anouncement faked the 40 years ago of course knowing he would be president one day? Give me a frickin break you crazy lunitics. He is president. He will win again in 2012. Cause you guys have no one that can stand next to him and seem normal. Romney did “government health care” Hukabee has no personality and his relgious view only appeal to a small amount of voters. Palin wont do a single interview unless on Fox and is a money grubbing fame seeking noob. Your only bet is Chris Christy and he said he isnt running and even if he did. President is a popularity contest. no matter how we tell each other it isnt. and to be blunt he is over weight and a loud mouth. and one Gafe away from a howard dean moment. So bring it Tea party right wing lemmings. Your candidates are at the childrens table at this Country’s party. BO Is the only grown up in the room.
Nobamazone
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 4:34pm@abc
“Common Sense, actually, since Darwin we have established theories on how a single-cell life form can develop,”
Really?? Would you be talking about the Miller-Urey experiment? I can see how you might be confused then, that experiment is used in many childrens text books as valuable proof of Darwin’s theory, I am guessing you were taught this, most likely more than once through your school years… it is a frequently used example of how life could form from non-life in the first place… you know, obviously required if Darwin is right. The problem is, this experiment would not work when they used molecules and elements actually found in our atmosphere, or water….. Like oxygen, seemed to cause a huge problem for the experiment. THANKFULLY… these “scientists” had the benefit of changing the ingredients until they were able to create an AMINO ACID. Amino acid is a necessary building block for life, but is NOT life. So no, he did not create life, nor has anyone else. Perhaps when you say “That we haven’t developed the technology to do it yet (although we are close)” you are referring to technology some day being able to clone life? You do know this starts with life in the first place right? You know, starting with DNA or stem cells…. That means they are not CREATING life, they are copying it, the information is already there.. YES we can do that! But gee…. That still does not answer where the information came from in the first place now does it??
Report Post »I am sorry you have been mislead by our education system to believe that life can just magically “be”.. it can not. I suggest you stop ready history, you are most likely reading the books full of lies anyway, check out original sources how about? Then, start reading more about science , and not just the progressive evolutionary scientists articles, check out the 1,000’s of them now standing up and saying there is NO WAY Darwin could be right. In fact, Darwin himself said if ever irreducible complexity was proven then his theory would fall apart.. Guess what… they have proven it, even evolutionary scientists admit this is a serious problem for the theory of evolution… http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/tj/v17/n2/admissions
Please reeducate yourself, you have been lied too! Once you accept the fact that we do have a creator, you will hopefully begin to open your eyes to the other lies you have fallen for.
abc
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 4:38pmNuthr,
“If you are the intellectual that you pose to be you should be able to follow your beliefs through to a few logical conclusions: Those who commit heinous acts will use whatever means are practical to justify their acts to their audience. Declaring themselves to be guided by religious principles does make it so and does not reflect on the merit of those principles.”
That’s the problem. There is no way to see what this supposed higher power thinks, since he isn’t telling anyone who holds truth and who is just making it all up. So all you are left with are the preachers trying to enslave your mind by telling you that they uniquely speak to God. The same is true for the folks that wrote the Bible, versus the Koran versus the Torah versus whatever book you like. There is no officially sanctioned belief system. There are just men arguing with each other. In the end, you either think for yourself and demand proof. Or you can blindly follow. The latter is slavery, since you are dependent on the subjective beliefs of another.
“Genesis was “written” several thousand years ago during a time when very little of what we now understand about science was know, even you with your superior intellect would not be able to convey the knowledge we have today to those of the time with an accuracy that would survive so long so well. And how simple will your knowledge be in 3000 more years?”
Not sure I follow this. If you could go back 3,000 years, you might be killed for being a crazy or a heretic. Or you might reign supreme. People back then, like today, would find accurate statements about the world compelling. If they are dying of famine and you show them how to irrigate, they’d make you king. If they are dying of plague and you show them how to avoid germs, they’d make you God. And you’d be doing a great service by disabusing them of the notion that praying would solve one or the other problem.
“What exactly is it about the basic principles of the major religions that you believe is destructive to society? Don’t kill? Don’t steal? Don’t envy? Be true and consistent in your principles? Treat others as you want treated? Those sound terrible don’t they?”
Those are all wonderful ideas, but they are hardly absolute. Lots of religious people kill, many in defense of their religion or in the proselytization of it. What some Muslims have a nasty habit of doing today, Christians and Jews did at other points in time with great regularity and with much bloodshed. You do know about the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition? You understand that the major religions all condoned slavery, right? The record on religion is very ugly at worst and mixed at best. And, by the way, those great notions supposedly promoted by religion were also espoused by agnostic people throughout history. Marcus Aurelius had more power than perhaps any other western leader, but he was never corrupted by it. Yet he didn’t really show any strong proclivity toward religion, which he viewed as a philsophy for the ignorant masses. Yet he or Socrates were at least as good a role model as Jesus or any of the profits from the Abrahamic religious tradition. In short, you don’t need religion and all of its bad things in order to get the virtues that you claim come uniquely from religion.
“If you want to believe that somehow if it weren’t for religion there would be absolute paradise (Isn’t that kind of like a religious belief?), you would need to develop some method of dispensing the wisdom of the ages that does not lead to utter chaos or brutal tyranny. What basis would you use? Would you develop codes of conduct and ethics? Would they not end up looking a lot like religions?”
I never said eliminating religion would create a paradise. But I think it would make the world noticeably better, but still far from perfect. And yes, there are similar dangers in non-religious but equally dogmatic, inflexible beliefs. And we must be on guard about them as much as religion. However, while in the past communist and anti-communist dogma was causing much of the bloodshed in the world, today it seems to be more caused by Muslims versus Christians or Muslims versus Jews. So while both are equal threats, the religious ones seem to be ascendant today versus say 40 years ago.
Report Post »Nobamazone
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 4:43pm@ G v dobbs
Report Post »even the first time I could not chalk it up to a mistake, good God… did you see his expression and his eyes while he paused before leaving out the word Creator? I honestly thought he was doing all he could to keep blood from squirting out of his eyes! It looked like just reading the word Creator might cause a bolt of lightning to hit him. It was no accident.
abc
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 4:49pmFedup,
“You missed the main point while worrying about powdered wigs. Man hasn’t changed! We have hate and love and have war and peace also good and bad and smart and dumb.”
I could not agree more when you speak of man’s inclinations and nature, which take more than a few thousand years to evolve.
“This what the Constitution governs, Man, not cell phones and Ipads. Power corrupts and it has been known way before Darwin and the Constitution. Three branches of power, checks and balances. Powdered wigs and all those guys lets call them Dudes to bring it into the present knew what they were doing.”
Clear enough.
“History is constantly changing and hopefully man will be become better but there will always be a chance for good and bad and corruption.”
No argument. But what does that have to do with dropping the creator language? That word reflects a non-modern view of where human rights come from. But that has nothing to do with checks and balances…
Report Post »abc
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 5:04pmTexas,
“They are still just theories. Talk about believing in fairytales. Something complex enough to heal and reproduce itself just “emerges” magically from basic building blocks? From where did the basic building blocks come?”
I love it. Just theories. As opposed to the Bible, which has zero evidence in its support. You take the ideas with zero proof over those with lots of proof, since one is called “theory” and the other is called “truth.” You are being fooled by semantics. I feel bad that you have so little ability to think critiically.
“We can go far deeper than cellular structure and into atomic structure. The deeper we go the fewer answers science has.”
Actually, the deeper we’ve gone, the less intuitive the universe looks. It is why Einstein couldn’t handle quantum mechanics, since, as he said, God doesn’t play dice. Yet younger scientists like Feynmann, who are atheists, kept going.
“God created all things including science.”
That statement says absolutely nothing. It is the same as saying I don’t know or the Riddler did it. It is this mentality that causes stagnation rather than progress. It is the road to the Dark Ages.
“Without God there would be no science.”
Please prove that statement.
Report Post »abc
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 5:14pmNobama, I never said that such experiments were successful. Rather, I said that there are theories on how such early organisms could form. I also wrote that those theories are a better explanation than anything religion can offer. You highlight a disproven theory and think that this overturns all of scientific research in this area (abiogenesis). That is more than an overreach. It is really rather silly and only reveals your lack of knowledge, not mine…
Report Post »abc
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 5:21pmNobama, I forgot to mention. While the Urey-Miller experiment was unsuccessful in generating life, it was very important in showing that a reductive atmosphere can produce the building blocks for life. That is a major advance that you wrongfully overlook.
Report Post »Clive
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 5:23pmway to focus on the issues herman. he paints himself into a corner with this stuff. theres plenty of things to legitimately criticize/press this president on. doing shi# like this creates the sideshow stupidity that turns off independents. focus on jobs. focus on money. this race will (again) depend on the center, the independents, and they know that anyone that wants to waste time on things like this, can’t have the position of president.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 5:33pmABC said – “We know what the primordial soup looked like, and those substances are the same ones that exist today…”
Whoa – talk about blind faith!
We get you deny God, but give it a rest. You’re just making yourself look more foolish.
Report Post »Nobamazone
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 5:41pmabc
Report Post »then do tell, which examples do you have that prove we can create life?
please name them, I WILL check it out
you see, I too used to fall for the evolution lie, fell for it for quite some time, then I started to question and seek and I have read tons on the issue, both sides
the evolutionists rely on way too much assumption for me, and false “proof”, and yes, Creationists also rely on assumption, but it is called faith, we assume God exists, we don’t have concrete proof that can be recreated in a lab, neither does evolution. What we do have can be put into theories and framework, and most the evidence out there points to a creator, NOT chance.
the link you provided is the more of the same junk, it showed that flowers can produce flowers, plants other plants .. the Bible already told us that, you know, plants and animals can repoduce their own kind. That means, flower flower, plant plant, etc. Keep in mind, MAN has created the groups they consider a “kind” in the article you provided, even the evolutionaries could not decide how to do that, several methods mentioned.. all thought up by man.
Keep studying, but don’t forget to check out the information from the other side of the argument
It is exactly the reason that ended up leading me to God, at some point I could no longer make excuses for evolution!
by the way, what is your answer to irreducible complexity, big problem to evolution… provide the links, like I said, I will check it out
CrazyJ
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 6:00pmWhy did Obama end his speech with “God bless America” if he intentionally left out the word “Creator”?
Report Post »Nobamazone
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 6:39pmabc
Report Post »the reductive atmosphere required NO OXYGEN,…. explain that one please
reductive atmosphere is itself a THEORY… one made up because it is required for certain other theories
this is how theories work you see, they are not proof
keep reading, eventually you will get there! that is my prayer at least, does not matter that you don’t believe, that does NOT diminish the power of prayer
Sinista MACE
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 6:47pmYea, my mistake, I had Tim Geithner on my mind.
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 7:17pmPresident Cain!!!!! What country would want to mess with a name like that!! Now McCain sounded like a new sandwich at McDonalds! But President Cain has a ring that young voters would consider cool!!!
Report Post »theCREATORisGOD
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 7:22pm@ TEXASCONSERVATIVE AND SNOWLEOPARD:
As always your guy’s comments are my favorite! :)
However,
@NOBAMA:
YOU ARE MY HERO!!!! You brought up AND PROVED the basic fallacy that is the foundation of evolution, that something cannot come from nothing. ABC has a theory on how cell organisms first came from a “soup of fatty and amino acids” but fails to prove that argument with facts. For someone who is so ANIT FAITH and requires evidence in order to believe, it proves puzzling that he believes the theories of evolutionists. Has ABC conducted these experiments in his own lab with his very own hands? I THINK NOT, so he is believing BY FAITH that these scientist actually performed these experiments and recorded their results accurately.
In other news, Herman Cain has my vote, as if I haven’t already said that enough on this site!
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 7:32pmABC, you sure do spend a lot of time bashing God and doubting his existence. Why?
Maybe you should hear stories of people who have died and returned. I’ve heard none say it was like a dream or anything like it. There are even people who have been without a heartbeat for almost an hour without brain damage.
Yes, God created science and all things made with science. Do you really think the intricacies of the atom, and even deeper, yes that includes quantum physics too, can just happen by accident? Even theories of the origins of humans cannot be fully explained by science. Atomic structure and quantum physics cannot either, not even a little. I am speaking of how they were created, not whether or not they exist.
I have one final question for you. What do you think happens to you after your biological life?
Have to go coach my youth sports team now. A reply from me may be a while coming.
Report Post »jayxdad
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 7:48pmNot only is he a marxist, socialist, anti colonialist, and communist, but he is first and foremost a LIAR. This small man is no Christian and is no friend of America or what this great country stands for. We all need to leave the politcal correctness behind and speak about how we really feel. Barry must be defeated or we will surely loose our nation and our freedom. God Bless Herman Cain, this man has solutions and is a true believer in our rights as individuals, not collective salvation.
Report Post »Nobamazone
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:11pm@thecreatorisgod
Report Post »AMEN!
I came from believing the evolution lie, I have read a lot on the issue and it just does not work, the whole theory is riddled with holes and impossiblities, it seriously takes more faith to believe evolution! I have tons of books and links to articles on the issues…. as I said before abc, provide your links, I will check them out
I now know better and truthfully, I was quite miffed when I finally realized how I had been lied too by the entire education system, ticked me right off
perhaps some day abc will get it… I never give up hope!
calamari12
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:38pmyou don’t make the same mistake twice if it really was an accident.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 9:38pmCreator is translated as YAHWEH!!
HAIL YHWH!
Hail to the Jewel in the Lotus!
Om Mani Padme Hum!
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:27pmSINISTA MACE there is a minus, he understands the banking system (MONEY). Better to elect another low-life lawyer…………DUH Homer
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:54pm@abc
Report Post »None of what you wrote is true. We do have theories on how the first single-cell organism emerged from a soup of amino and fatty acids. Just because you don’t understand those theories, doesn’t mean they do not exist or are not solid explanations. The idea of some magical life force behind life that we cannot comprehend ended as a credible idea more than 100 years ago, so you might want to update your reading to more modern books on the subject.
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Any idea who was the chef who made your “soup” of amino and fatty acids?
In the end, you will always come back to, “and where did that come from”. I can remember reading that “The Hubble will enable us to look so deep into outer space as to actually see the beginning of time and find out whether Darwin or Creation was true!” And thought it only fitting that a lens immediately went out on the Hubble, and we spent years unable to see anything from it. From time to time I see some awesome pictures, still haven’t seen Creation or Evolution. Let’s face it, what we do see, is just tooooooo amazing to be accidental. Put all the essential parts to anything in a bag and shake it up, you’ll never get from it the item you wanted to make. Chaos is what comes from happenstance, order comes from intelligent building.
I know a lot of people who (like me) must have gone out of existence 100 yrs ago, but we don’t believe in fairy tale magic being behind life. We believe in Someone, in whose image we are individually created in the womb. (Isa 44:24) Yes I’m quoting that Old, not outdated, but time proven book. But, I know it’s true, because, I’ve known that Creator personally since a mixed up 11 yr old child began to pray, and found a new wisdom for living that was never there before. He’s taken me through a journey of over 50 yrs now, and I can guarantee to you, that the promises made in that old manuscript (The Bible) are just as timely, as anything on this earth. If you’d spend a fraction of a day, attempting to find out WHY people like me insist on believing in a Creator, you’d be surprised to find, that not only is He real and waiting to hear from you, but He loves you, and wants to show you, too, that you could stake your life on those promises from that old manuscript, and they’d be able to hold you up. Not because it’s a book of magic, but because the God Who is the Creator, is a God of love and forgiveness, and Rebirth, just like the springtime we are going into. He made the laws of nature, They didn’t just happen, and He promised that as long as earth remains Summer, Winter, Spring and Fall, shall not cease to exist. Farmers stake everything on that promise every year, and from the beginning of time it has not failed. Can you think of anything modern which is so dependable?
Mil Mom
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 12:05am@realindependent
Report Post »BO Is the only grown up in the room.
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Yeah, and why do we have more pictures of him with a basketball, golf club, or slushee and icecream, than him sitting with rolled up sleeves, working at a table with a bunch of congressmen to solve the economic and budget crisis?
James83940
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:12amI echo @Dusty: “He has my vote. If we can get him past the RINOs and Republican ‘leadership’.” That is the real road block to beating Obama and taking back our country: the John McCain’s of the world.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:40amFor those interested, I found a great article about the “Reductive Atmospheric Model for the Synthesis of Amino Acids” theory. It’s a long read but worth it.
http://www.sjchurchofchrist.org/amino.shtml
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 9:49amI would vote for Cain, this man is a leader and a businessman, and that is what we need now! Kick the current WH fraud out, along with all of his progressive-communist minions in congressm in 2012, Let’s hope we make it that far intact!!
Either we take our country back from the tyrannical left, or we lose it COMPLETELY.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 12:52pmCain is a Gold Standard supporter and the KC Fed has for the longest time been the dissenting vote in the board of governors.
Paul – Cain 2012
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