13 American NATO Service Members Killed by Suicide Bomber in Afghanistan
- Posted on October 29, 2011 at 9:45am by
Christopher Santarelli
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(AP) A Taliban suicide bomber rammed a van into an armored NATO bus Saturday in Kabul, killing 13 American troops and four Afghans, U.S. and Afghan officials said, in the deadliest attack on coalition forces in more than two months.
The explosion, which occurred as the convoy was passing the American University, sparked a fireball and littered the street with shrapnel. Heavy black smoke poured from burning wreckage at the site.
The armored personnel carrier, known as a Rhino was sandwiched between of a convoy of mine-resistant military vehicles traveling on a four-lane highway frequently used by NATO forces in a southwestern section of the city.
NATO said 13 service members were killed, but a U.S. official confirmed they were all Americans. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.
The Afghan Ministry of Interior said three Afghan civilians and one policeman also died in the attack. Eight other Afghans, including two children and four other civilians, were wounded, said Kabir Amiri, head of Kabul hospitals.
The Taliban claimed responsibility for the Kabul attack, as well as for another suicide bombing outside a government intelligence office in the northwest province of Kunar.
The attack occurred near the entrance of the American University and the nearby landmark Darulaman Palace, the bombed-out seat of former Afghan kings.
NATO and Afghan forces sealed off the area as fire trucks and ambulances rushed in. An Associated Press reporter at the scene saw two NATO helicopters landing to airlift casualties, while coalition troops using loudspeakers ordered bystanders to evacuate the area.
It was the deadliest single attack against the U.S.-led coalition since the Taliban shot down a NATO helicopter on Aug. 6 in an eastern Afghan province, killing 30 U.S. troops, most elite Navy SEALs, and eight Afghans.
In other violence, a man wearing an Afghan military uniform opened fire on a joint NATO-Afghan base, killing three NATO service members in Uruzgan province, an area in the restive south that is traditionally viewed as the Taliban’s stronghold.
Afghan Defense Ministry spokesman Mohammad Zahir Azimi said officials were investigating whether the shooter, who was killed in the incident, was a member of the Afghan army or a militant wearing an army uniform.






















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Comments (133)
Johann
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:13amMore troops killed in a useless war on behalf of stone age moslems. Let us get out of Obama’s, Clinton’s, McCain’s war as soon as possible. And let us stop using the ruse when soldiers are killed that they are Nato casualties; this is a way of obscuring the fact that every soldier that is killed is in fact an American; there are no German, French, Italian casualties because they do not fight. End the war now and bring all the troops home not only from mideast but also from Europe and Asia.
shirelover
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:31amYou are wrong, I know for a fact (I just can’t back it up, if you get my drift) that there are NATO forces there.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:45amOk, we bring all the troops home and then what? How are we to make friends and spread Democracy? What would happen to our status as The Worlds Policemen? How would Germany bailout Europe? We have an obligation to the world….sending our young men and women is a small price to pay. Oh “PAY” nah we just borrow the money for this small sacrifice.
Report Post »Stryker
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:50amYou are VERY wrong, I know and CAN back it up, that there are many NATO forces I served with while I was there less than 3 months ago. Get your facts straight before you spew.
Report Post »spurjimmy
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:52amDitto to the Nth degree
Report Post »spurjimmy
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:57am@commonsense
Report Post »You should be named “common propaganda believer” and your small price to pay must be at someone elses expense.
bobnabq
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 1:27pm“Let us get out of Obama’s, Clinton’s, McCain’s war as soon as possible.”
Report Post »Hmmmm ~ Clinton was out of office before the Afghan war began. And you left out Bush & Cheney who started the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq resulting in the deaths of thousands of US troops.
Andrew Panken
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 2:07pmIt‘s Obama’s and Bush’s war. Not sure why you included Clinton and McCain, maybe some long irrelevant explanation? Regardless, we do need to get out of there, as soon a possible. We’re a bankrupt country. We can’t fund these wars, just bring the troops home.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 2:29pmKind of funny how when Obama got elected, Code Pink hushed their mouths. Also interesting that the MSM stopped with giving the numbers of US soldiers killed.
Also interesting that wet behind the ears, no military experience, no leadership experience, anti Iraq war, candidate Obama spouted that Iraq was the wrong war at the wrong time, and that Afghanistan was the right war at the right time. No one in the MSM wanted to remind him that Empires have collapsed from fighting in Afghanistan. Alexander the Great, Great Britain, and the Soviet Union all took a swing and failed. You will also notice that the surge Obama put into Afghanistan was not aimed at getting OBL, it was geard toward nation building. You can not make chicken salad from chicken crap.
there are plenty of NATO troops in Afghanistan, and most are a wast of time and space, and provide little to nothing. The Brits and Canadians were the only NATO troops that were of much use when I was there last year. I believe it was the Italians and Spanish that were paying off the taliban not to hit them, in return for them no actually doing anything other than building fancy FOBs to live on.
Report Post »Puppy
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 2:49pmSuck it up, dude. Had we had that attitude during WWII, where do you think we would be today? That attitude caused the slaughter in Vietnam after the liberals pulled the rug out from under the South’s feet and now you propose the same in this case…sad to see that American’s have grown soft and mushy. By the way, I am both a Vietnam and Iraqi Freedom Veteran so I’m not just blowing smoke.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 3:01pm65% of the Casualties are American. I expect as the war goes on that percentage will be higher.
1,757 American deaths in Afghanistan, which 39% of the deaths in Iraq. But you wouldn’t know it, because the LSM does not report a death count every night with a a Democrat President.
The execrable Liberal press & the rest of the left always says there are no coalition forces. They said the same of Iraq. Then they crowed every time the browbeat a country into pulling out like Spain & Honduras, which showed their lie.
http://usiraq.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000671
Report Post »thop1960
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 3:33pmActually, it‘s America’s war. So what happens when we leave? How about the same thing that happened when the Russians left. Taliban gets stronger, Alkida moves back in, plots and trains for another 9/11 against us and there we are right back over there again kicking ass. This cycle will not pass until we eradicate all those who want us dead. Like it or not, it’s us or them. There is no middle ground, that’s just a waste land of decapitated bodies.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 3:34pmDid the Blaze change the Headline? Now it says American, I did not see this before. Please tell me this is not true.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 3:53pmI’ve been saying for awhile now its time to come home and say we did the best we could for these people. We kicked some serious butt but we cannot stay there forever and we cannot ultimately defeat these people by merely waiting them out because we cannot kill them all. This is cannot be a War of attrition and its just not gonna happen that way. It can only be a War of absolute desolation and firm resolve. We will never do that so it is time we count our dead, pay them tribute and move on. God Bless the families of the fallen in this bombing.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 4:01pmbobnabq
I regard Usama as a Democrat contrived problem. Terrorism is not a problem, where you can use a law enforcement approach after it gets to 1,000s of people.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/clinton-passed-on-killing-bin-laden/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4540958/ns/nightly_news/t/osama-bin-laden-missed-opportunities/#.TqxbCXKwVqI
Report Post »the hawk
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 5:16pmcheifgeorge,
Report Post »Hit the nail on the head ! Stop building schools and roads ! Bring our Troops home and BOM !!!
motonutt
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 5:36pmI hope we are going to open a big can of pay back. I say at least 5 of them for every one of our soldiers. I’m talking men, women, babies,children, dogs, goats, etc. Just like God istructed the Israelites to do to the philisteins, kill them all, do not leave anything alive, so say’s the Lord God.
Report Post »junkmaninohio
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 7:09pmWar without end and for what? What a waste of blood and treasure. Our troops have to die to prop up a corrupt Afgan government who stated recently they will side with Pakastan if the US attacks that country. This is just one of many reasons America remains the laughing stock of the world.
Report Post »rabblechat
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 2:34pmOne thing I find interesting is before we invaded, the Taliban had nearly wiped out the opium production in that country. One year after we invade (and the subsequent years) and they have record crops. Why are we allowing them to produce record levels of opium when heroin is at nearly epidemic levels in this country?
Report Post »Opium fields do not move or change their appearance like Taliban; we would have no problem eradicating the opium poppy if we wanted to…
rabblechat
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 3:24pm@Andrew I’m pretty sure they are referring to our SoS Hillary Clinton not Bill Clinton.
Report Post »Hickory
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:12amThe Muslim animals only understand one thing, force. The solution to this is when they kill one of ours; we kill one thousand of theirs. If we run out of theirs, tough luck! I do not like Muslims and I do not want to trade any of our troops for theirs. Bring our troops home and nuke the place. We should have done that to start with. A single tactical nuke at Kandahar would have cleaned out the whole upper echelon of the Al-Qaida and the Taliban leaders. This would have sent a message to the whole terrorist world that we mean business. Bush blew it big time.
Report Post »sarg356
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:29amamen
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:30amYes …Because George Bush had a decision to make..He had the opportunity to destroy the evil that infested Islam ..But we would have had to reach into the soul of the nation and done the hard work of destroying a enemy that isn’t going away ..But instead he got yanked into following more temptation ..Believing what some fool was telling him…We can have prosperity and fight a war …They bit right into that sin of self gratification …Two weeks in and what did we hear…Nobody’s flying ..Bailout the airlines…Nobody’s shopping …Start the money presses …No we had one and one goal only…Destroy our enemy first….
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:42amWe wouldn’t have been able to drop a nuke on them. It would lead to the muslim world throwing one back at us asap. With Iran, pakistan, and the connectivity of the world these days, they’d really accelerate prioritizing the acquisition a nuke if we dropped one. For humanity (and the animal world), there cannot be any nukes attacks from any country anymore.
Report Post »proudinfidel54
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:00pmHickory, after we nuke um any Heroin that is left would be radioactive so we would be able to tell who was using it, they would be the ones glowing in the dark. Shoot, all we would have to do to find their stash is get a Geiger Counter…lol
Report Post »toto
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 2:03pmI am with you. I am sick to death of political correctness that somehow gives equal value to these animalistic people. They will never become civilized, and have resisted it for thousands of years. They should be isolated in every way possible and destroy all the poppy fields very time a new crop appears. They are unable to move beyond the 7th century.
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 4:26pmAs much as it pains we to say it, you might have a point. It took burning two cities to ash to stop the equally fanatic Japanese, and that level of force might be required to stop these zealots as well. It’s time to stop playing games and show this wannabe empire what the price of a real war is. And when their mothers and sisters are drowning in the blood of their husbands, fathers and brothers they will learn their lesson.
Report Post »fiftythree
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 6:42pma quicker way is to vote obama out.
Report Post »rabblechat
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 3:20pm@Toto We have accomplished what we set out to do there, the Taliban are no longer in power and AQ is functionally extinct. Why are we still there? I’m sure there will always be a percentage of the population that is against us, I don’t think in the history of Man we have ever seen a occupying force supported in whole by the indigenous population. I don’t think Afghanistan will be and exception.
Report Post »We cannot even afford to maintain our own nation, why are we attempting to build and maintain theirs?
Jezcruzen
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:12amBTW, these were not “NATO service members”. These were American troops! F&*k NATO.
Report Post »kennyg933
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:15amHey, as long as the opium supply is controlled, it’s worth it, isn’t it? What? It’s not? Who said that? You must be unpatriotic.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:11amThis is not going to end. Our Combat troops have had their hands tied behind their backs by Barack Obama. We need out of a war that has been made impossible to win. I now consider the death of ANY American soldier as murder at the hands of PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA.
God give the families of these fallen warriors Your strength.
Report Post »shirleyandpearl
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:55pmAgreed! ‘just glad that my son is no longer a soldier with that weak, socialistic, self indulging commander in chief! It’s high time to pull out, physically and fiscally,of Afghanistan and batten down the hatches under a new president who would the same values as most Americans and puts priorities in the right order. Obama feigns a show of half a rat about the fallen only on behalf of his poll rating for the day. God bless and take care of the fallen and their families!
Report Post »sarg356
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:10amYou can’t fight savages with rules and guidlines in place and expect to come out the winner. War have no rules if you want to win. Our gov’t is failing us. They are bastards.
Report Post »neverending
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:40amYou are exactly right. We have no commander in chief only a bastard in chief and we should not be losing any more lives – not one.
Report Post »Channel3
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:33pmWe should turn the WHOLE country of Afgahnistan into “suicide bombers”.
Flatten every structure from 20,000 feet with 2,000# JDAM’s.
Vaporize EVERY non-U.S. vehicle.
Dig enormous pits and bulldoze all the rubble into the pits and bury it.
Report Post »AnAmerican111
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:06amOur military men & women put there lives on the line every day while garbage walks around our cities calling themselves ‘occupiers’!
Report Post »Hickory
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:13amI agree.
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:00pmLet’s send the “OCCUPIERS” to Kabul, they like living in
tents and in their filth, would be at home there. Pull all
our Troops out, and send in all these America Haters…
Pray for all the Families of these Brave Troops…OORAH !!
Report Post »South Philly Boy
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:04amVery SAD
Report Post »Agnes
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:03amEach and every time an American military person is killed (especially unnecessarily) it breaks my heart. My best wishes and thoughts to the families who have lost loved ones!
Report Post »jimroc
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:01amGet out of the U.N. and Nato.
Report Post »staggerlee32
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:13amNot the govt we have now…. they won’t, but I agree…. also we can kick out all traitors in the CFR and Trilateral Commission. Type illuminati backards (itanimulli) sandwiched by www. and .com and see where it takes you…. it may blow your mind.
Report Post »staggerlee32
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:15ambackwards*
Report Post »Marine 1
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:31amExactly right! What was the mission of the undeclared war to begin with? Kill the terrorists? Try again. Iraq and Afghanistan are the biggest theatrical productions I have ever seen. This is not a war, it’s a dog and pony show run by corporations for profit. It only took the United States and it’s allies four (4) years to defeat Germany and Japan on two fronts. (My father was a B-25 pilot in the Pacific killing Japanese left and right.)
I had a commander in the Marine Corps, a Lt. Colonel, that said, “If you’re not going to move through the objective, kick @$$ and take names, then plant the Stars and Stripes on the high ground then don’t bother.” That, my friends, is my idea of winning a war. What is happening in Iraq and Afghanistan is bravo sierra and waste of American lives, time, and a huge amount of money.
In the end we will walk away with what? End to the drugs being manufactured in Afghanistan? Nope! New occupied territory and oils for the United States? Nope! More control over the “terrorists” and other enemies of the U.S.? Nope! We walk away with nothing. What a deal.
Now the Border Patrol is letting the Canadian border pretty much go as well. This is nuts.
We need the military back home to guard our borders. Especially the National Guard that has no business even being overseas. they need to be on the southern border protecting the U.S. citizens from the Mexican invasion.
Report Post »proudinfidel54
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:02pmAnd get the UN out of the USA also stop funding them.
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:01amYou have this today because we couldn’t muster the spine on 9/12 and do what needed to be done…Send one clear message to the Muslim world .When you see our armies wave a white flag of surrender and submit to our will or stand and die for your misguided beliefs, Then destroy them to a complete victory…….10 years ….Thousands of the bravest men we have ….Loss of personal freedom liberties here …People do you see where weakness and not using the sword given to us to destroy evil …Has led..
Report Post »GUNNSUP
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 8:48pmWell said Marine 1….S/F!
Report Post »Channel3
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:01amWhat really upsets me is that after 10 years, our troops are still being killed by roadside bombs, IED’s, RPG‘s into helo’s and car/truck bombs.
We either need to get out now or drastically change our tatics and Rules of Engagement.
This cannot continue.
Personally, I think we should follow the example of Alexander the Great.
Lay waste. Crush insurgency. Remove family members of insurgents. Rule the land.
But we do not have the will thus Afgahnistan will once again become the graveyard of another empire.
Report Post »Jezcruzen
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:10amTroops went in after 911 and kicked terrorist’s ass. Mission accomplished. Lesson learned. They should have been withdrawn after six months.
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:20amVery true…..and your point are well taken .Stop and think about this for a minute …Not one…. I mean not one ….Person in the Pentagon was ever smart enough to think that all these people know and will follow is the strongest leader. So if we would have from the start given a general full authority to let these people realize that there was a new sheriff in town and it’s his way or the high way . We may have been able to take control..But no were to PC today..So just throw in the towel again and give up…Dishonor the fallen…Loose more security…The evil that infested Islam is coming soon and will be knocking on our door full time soon….
Report Post »jimroc
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:00amF–kin Iran!
Report Post »docmo
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:59amGod Bless the fallen troops and there families.
Report Post »ith our rules of engagement this will continue to occur. The obamist administration is to blame for these episodes. Get our troops out of Uganda before they are casualties.
spfoam1
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:49amToo bad we have an Islamic president who will do nothing to retaliate. We better get rid of Obama, and bring out the big guns to end this BS.
Report Post »dontbotherme
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:49amGod, please welcome these soldiers into your arms. Please help their families somehow cope with the losses of their loved ones. This rips my heart apart. I have never been anti-war before, but I am wondering why we are still there. We are a Military family & I am terrified of such a loss. It’s time for our people to come home.
Report Post »sissykatz
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:34amOh how awful. God bless all those brave men and their families.
Report Post »Carol Ingian
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:20amI pray for the soldiers and their families. How horrible it must be to receive this news of a loved one.
Report Post »When will we be rid of this muslim jihad horror?
relayer24
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:16amNot a time to criticize here, with this story. 13 of our best have died defending us. Honor them, and pray for the people they have left behind. Including for the wisdom of the leaders that place them to guard the gates of freedom.
Report Post »hi
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:09amOur men and women should not be under the command of incompetent NATO leaders!
Horrendous.
Report Post »alwayssora
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:05amMay God recieve all our brave men who were lost to us in this senseless attack. Hold them close to you and bless their families and friends.
Report Post »neverending
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:42amAmen.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:05amI pray for the families. I also pray it is not my good friend over there, I have not heard from him. Please bring our troops home from these God forsaken places and let the Muslims live the way they want to live. We have enough oil here and in Canada. we don’t need blood soaked oil. Israel can protect itself easily too…Bring them home NOW!!
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:12am@dustyluv
Report Post »I pray everyday for the safety of our troops. Will add your friend to my prayers. My son arrived in Kabul a few days ago. Terrifying.
Exrepublisheep
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:16amI agree. And I hope your friends O.K. too.
Report Post »HectorL
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:03amLooks like whenever we close the can of whip ace our guys start to die. Let them fight or bring them home.
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:21amhectorl – I second your comment.
Report Post »Either go big or go home.
For the record, I think we need to get the hell out of Afghanistan
grandmaof5
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:38amAmen. Drill, baby, drill, and get our military home. If they want to fight to the death, so be it, we have enough trouble in our back yard that we don’t need our nose in a fight that has been going on for years and years. Pray for our military, police, firemen/women and border patrol, things are heating up, by design, and they need all of our prayers, as does THIS country.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:49am@Grandmaof5 — it is long past time for our troops to come home; Obama has put the leashes back on to ensure the war is lost completely, and I expect him to put the full blame on them while claiming he won the war until the troops lost it.
Report Post »mvsanders
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 9:56amGod bless them and their familys
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:08amYes, God bless them, as the conservative GOP/bank/military machine sends them to slaughter.
Report Post »Do you not see your part in causing this?
I saw my part and it turned my stomach. I’m an staunchly anti-war (except for defense).
This is very graphic, but do you want to see Libya, the American killing of civilians/children?
Everyone that supports a war candidate is guilty of this:
YOU TUBE DELETED THE VIDEO!
It was children killed in a village during America’s “liberation of Libya”
Sickening!
YepImaConservative
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:31am“… as the conservative GOP/bank/military machine sends them to slaughter.” ~~ VECHORIK
“I am an staunchly anti-war (except for defense).”~~ VECHORIK
I saw a sign just like this at an OWS rally here in Tampa, Florida on the way to work. Was that YOU VECHORIK wearing that leftist Code Pink tee shirt? Ron Paul supporters and Code Pink are quite the cosy leftists.
Report Post »michael79
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:35amVECHORIC has things so twisted up in his mind, he doesn’t even make sense.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:48am@Vechorik — for the record, OBAMA the DEMOCRAT MADMAN is the one that gave Libya to the terrorists, not the GOP. Get your facts straight before ranting and raving…the GOP is not in power, OBAMA IS, and HE sent our troops into harms way.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:51amCall me names, but look into your own heart.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:03amSome education, for those who wish to see
U.S. Destabalizes entire Middle East, wastes $1 Trillion, Mission Accomplished? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZtOfddom4Q
FBI creates terrorists to arrest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtkgDl6mmO0
Why should I do your homework? Do your own!
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:03pmIf calling out most Libertarians, many so-called Constitutionalists here, All Ron Paul Supporters and VECHORIK for what you are… “thrifty Liberals/Quasi-Conservatives”… then consider yourself… name called.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:19pmYour screen name says you’re a conservative. I suggest you research the concept and realize you are closer to the liberal neo-conservative agenda than you are to true conservatism (as the founding fathers were). Then your screen name and comments wouldn’t be so conflicting (ignorant) in nature.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 1:04pmLMAO> You VECHORIK. The Libertarian Party/Ideology has more in common with the “New Left” these days more so than it does with the “Old Right.” You can wish yourselves the title of being the children of the Founding Fathers, but just like the left has corrupted our society over the years… Libertarians corrupt the memory of those men by not being able to move into the reality of the world as it is today. A Libertarian society will further this Liberal corruption of our society in the name of Libertine Liberty and Freedom as just a mask for further continuance of self indulgance, self importance and eventually… self destruction.
Take Ron Paul’s endless years in Congress… the Founding Fathers would be rolling in their graves.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 8:19pmYes, our Founding Fathers would be ashamed of us:
Report Post »“Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none.” -
— Thomas Jefferson
Vechorik
Posted on October 30, 2011 at 11:55amI wish these dead soldiers could speak about the foreign policy.
Report Post »Here’s a disabled Vet speaking about it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwqaoZsgIN4
LiveforFreedom
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 9:53amGo easy Bro’s
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:34amDitto.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 9:53amFor God’s sake when are we getting the troops home from a war that we have lost thanks to Mr Obama…get them home now!!!
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:51pmObama’s wars? What about Bush wars? What about all wars?
I like what Judge Andrew Napolitano has to say about it — it’s a mirror to show us who we really are
Report Post »U.S. Destabalizes entire Middle East, wastes $1 Trillion, Do you feel safer? More free? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZtOfddom4Q