Education

13-Year-Old Girl Suspended for bin Laden Facebook Post

A 13-year-old New Hampshire girl has been suspended after she wrote on her Facebook page that she hoped Osama bin Laden had killed her math teacher. And while the girl’s mother agrees the post was inappropriate, she says her daughter’s free speech has been infringed:

WMUR-TV reports:

Kimberly Dell’isola said her daughter was suspended for five days after saying she wished Osama bin Laden killed her math teacher.While she agrees the post was offensive, Dell‘isola said her daughter’s free speech should be protected.”In hindsight, she’s mortified that she said that, but she’s a 13-year-old kid,” Dell’isola said.

She said she frequently checks her daughter’s Facebook page, but she hadn’t logged on the day of the incident.Dell‘isola said she didn’t find out about the incident until she got a call from the school’s principal.

She said she agrees with the administrators at Rundlett Middle School that the post was wrong, but thinks the punishment is too harsh.”You are denying her an education based on something she did at home. That’s my business, not your business,” Dell’isola said.

As we reported in March, the feds have increased the pressure on schools to monitor kids’ off-campus activities.

What do you think?


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  • let us prey
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:11pm

    She would have received less punishment had she kicked the teacher in the stones.

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  • GayDem4Beck
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:11pm

    Then again, I wonder if this poor child has ever cursed there parents. It sounds like there’s a good chance of that. So how far is too far ? Maybe we should consult the bible for guidance. Wishing one be killed is as bad if not worse as cursing one’s parents.

    Exodus 21:17 And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.
    Leviticus 20:9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.
    Matthew 15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.

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    • blazer809
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:04pm

      absolutely in no way does that scripture have anything whatsoever to do with this story…please!?

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  • TeaParty_InTheSky
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:10pm

    dont tell me none of you when you were thirteen wished for your school to get hit by a tornado or your most hated teacher get in a car wreck so you wouldnt have them for a while. its wrong what she said but all kids have these thoughts and have had them

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  • Carborendum
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:09pm

    If the mom has a problem, she should keep her home and homeschool her.

    If it had been anyone else, the school should not be involved. But when the death wish is between a student and a teacher at the school, that gives the school the right to do something about it.

    I’d bet there is more going on here than meets the eye. Children don’t wish a teacher for no reason. Was it some idle thought? If so, that is a severe parenting issue. If it was real, I’d wonder what the girl perceives the teacher did to warrant such criticism.

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  • Bhaub
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:08pm

    Well, she’s white, so it’s fine. But if it was a Muslim 13 year old, we should have him maced. Love the Tea Party! Hating government when it gets into the business of whites, but blacks and middle eastern folks are cool!

    The posts on the “cell phone justice” page are clear evidence of your hypocrisy. Only Sinista Mace is consistent in his views, but you guys still attack him. Wonder why.

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    • MtnLou
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 3:15pm

      Keep throwing RACE into everything, see what sticks huh. Democrats have gotten really good at that, and it is a cancer that needs to be treated. Try some TEA and see what happens

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 6:37pm

      Thank you for your support. I think some people attack me and have a hard time pinning me down because I take a Conservative Libertarian stance and it confuses people because of their ensconcement in the FALSE left-right paradigm.

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  • Jenny Lind
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:07pm

    Let me get this straight-she was home, made a dumb kid remark and she got suspended? We have thought police in the schools? That was definately a Mom fix moment, as in “thats not appopriate and you shouln’t say things like that etc”. That is not a school issue unless she talks about bringing a gun to do away with her teacher.I am telling you, this is getting scarey out of hand.

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  • Elrik68
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:06pm

    It was not the school monitoring her facebook page. It was found by a parent of one her friends. Why this parent decided to tell the school instead of her parents I don’t know. With that said, if you post it, your accountable for it. Chalk it up to a life lesson and enjoy your suspension.

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  • 5headspro.com
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:05pm

    A death threat?? Im sorry, but wishing someone were dead or killed is not a death threat. And the school couldn’t reply because of what reason??? What a double standard.

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    • aragona
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 8:55pm

      I agree completely. There was no death threat in that post.

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  • TEIN
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:04pm

    When did a public blog become a concern of schools?? If the the school and teachers have time to montitor their students blog’s, then they have too much time on their hands. How about teaching?? Dishing out punishment from a rant of a child when that child is not at school?? Parents take heed…have your childern stay off Facebook!!! If possible shut that site down before it become (which it already has) part of the nanny state…

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  • DaveOregon
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:04pm

    Agree with comment on NOT the schools business. She did not say she was planning another “Columbine” event or planning to kill the math teacher – just said what 99% of all elementary and hihigh school kid’s think or say about one teacher or another at some time. How much $$ is the school admin trolls wasting on monitoring FaceBook? Yep – THOUGHT POLICE – coming to a home nera you!

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  • HuntsvilleAla
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:04pm

    I agree with the parent, it happened at home so the parents should handle the punishment.

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  • UpstateNYConservative
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:02pm

    A good lesson hard-learned. You just shouldn’t say certain things in public. Three days might have been ‘more appropriate’ to some I, guess, but I won’t complain the girl got five.

    And her mommy shouldn’t be fretting, either. Just have teachers swamp the girl with homework to make up lost class time. No video games; no Net; no TV until after the girl is normally allowed to have free time. And no sleeping-in, either. Up as if for school and get on those class lessons.

    The girl will likely come out better for it.

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    • 5headspro.com
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:07pm

      Really?

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    • caexpat
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:19pm

      it’s just a kid.she shot off her keyboard it was wrong.But to say she will.Come out better for it!…It’s Intimidation….If the school wanted to do something, they should have done is call the parents….it’s there handle…..

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    • UpstateNYConservative
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:22pm

      @ 5headspro.com
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:07pm

      Really?

      ______________

      It’s not like the school raided her diary or hacked through the privacy settings on FB the girl had in place. She obviously didn’t have the settings right.

      I know, I know–We all had our little ditties about meeting teachers “…at the door with a loaded .44…” I get this in full.

      But this is an entirely different era. When I was 13, only the Feds and top universities had computers. And even the most forward-thinking never thought, in 1972, we would have more computing power on a desk than they had in an entire room at that time. Then, there’s the Net–no one ever thought the entire knowledge of Man could be available worldwide with a few keystrokes. Well, except maybe the fictional (at the time) computers aboard the starship Enterprise.

      I see it this way: The kid learned something that will benefit later. If nothing else, she learns that Big Brother is always watching.

      Hey! We might have another budding Conservative here, for all we know. And that’s always a good thing!

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    • UpstateNYConservative
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:35pm

      @
      caexpat
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:19pm

      it’s just a kid.she shot off her keyboard it was wrong.But to say she will.Come out better for it!…It’s Intimidation….If the school wanted to do something, they should have done is call the parents….it’s there handle…..

      ____________

      In that vein, I’d be laying down Law on my own on top of what the school did. Please refer to my previous response to another.

      My view on free speech is that there are limits to it. Not imposed by government, of course, but by personal restraint. Liberals, on the other hand, think that even advocating self-restraint is ‘censorship’. That‘s how libs ’justify‘ keeping us regular folk from going to work because they closed a road ’in protest’.

      Yes, she can come out better–possibly seeing the concept that personal responsibility trumps an individual’s right to say whatever he/she pleases. Of course, I speak only from the the idea that it’s an individual choice how a Citizen will balance rights and personal responsibility under those rights.

      I also don’t believe the Constitution is meant for 13-years-olds to shoot of their mouths with impunity, and have mommy go to bat for them when they over-step.

      For an odd postulate, I imagine that’s how liberals are made.

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    • Mandors
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:01pm

      The school is the government. This was not done on school grounds. She did not use school computers or the school’s network. The school and its teachers have no jurisdiction to punish non-school activities off campus. When kids are in the building, on the grounds and in class they owe the teachers respect. Off campus, at home? They don’t.

      She doesn’t like her teacher and would be happy to see him or her dead–that’s her opinion. However distasteful to some, it is protected speech, and schools as the growing arm of governmental thought police that they are becoming can’t punish it.

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    • UpstateNYConservative
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:14pm

      @Mandors

      You are correct in every detail, but you missed one: The girl’s post included an individual of the school system. She did it in a public forum, it would seem to be.

      Of course the school is going to get involved in an instance like this!

      We can debate the nuances and re-challenge SCOTUS rulings all day, but the bottom line is this kid over-stepped where she should have had better FB security.

      I’m of the view that, while we have right of free speech, sometimes it’s better to keep your mouth shut. Not only for sake of Big Brother, but also for sake of prudence.

      Just some ideas.

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  • valarie
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:01pm

    Oh, seriously. Sheesh. Remember the songs we used to sing about our teachers to the tune of “glory, glory, hallelujah” and other little ditties? I swear to God, people live and breathe to tattle on one another these days and make drama. Yuck :P

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  • compatriotshonor
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:01pm

    Here we go! We have a kid in school that posted something on her face book page about how she feels and yes, even though it was wrong to say such harsh words, it is another to have a nanny state looking into our childrens business, calling it the NO BULLY POLICY, and suspending her from school.
    I dully believe in the right to free speech, even if the speech isn’t kosher. What I don’t believe in is any form of nanny state solution from outside the family home. That is the job of the parents to regulate, not the state or the government or any school! This is just another infingement against a persons rights!

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    • Insipid
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:28pm

      I agree 100% THe 1st admendment was there to protect political speech and also speech that others may find offensive. It is a true shame how far polictical correctness has come. There will never be a Utopia.

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  • Mandors
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:00pm

    Not on campus, not school computer–it’s none of their business. They have no jurisdiction once a student leaves school grounds.

    Just another example of creeping social control this time using the smiley faces of teachers and administrators.

    In fact, I wish Bin Laden did kill her teacher too, and the principal. Come try and suspend me.

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    • chips1
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:19pm

      Hey! Obummer! Your suspended for your muslim terrorist speach against America. There. That should do it.

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  • barrycooper
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:59pm

    The question is: where does it end? Do we really want government agents reading everything we write, and arresting us or harassing us if it is deemed inappropriate? At what point does that cross over into the overt oppression from which the First Amendment was designed to protect us? We’ve already lost the right to express religious opinions in many public forums.

    Tyranny starts slowly, and it will cloak itself as our friend. The question here is not “COULD she present a threat”, but rather DOES she present a credible threat? Babies don’t carry bombs, so the TSA doesn’t need to feel them up. Teenage girls have wished to get out of tests in many ways for the duration of education, but that doesn’t mean wishing their teacher were dead means they intend to try and bring it about.

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    • OneRepublic4us
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:10pm

      Where does it end? That was my thought while reading the other story about the kid that was questioned at school without his parents present. Are they data mining adult fb pages for key words like “conservative”, “republican”, “christian” and other terms they consider “a threat” to O’s next election?
      You have to ask yourself if you’ll be rounded up, harassed or targeted for additional taxes in someway to intimidate voters. Where DOES it end?

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    • searching for the Truth
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:04pm

      Conviction by law should rely on the “ over abundance” of proof or it would violate the most basic tenets of law. There are too many ways someone could compromise another person’s computer.

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  • caexpat
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:59pm

    OK, we all know big brother IS watching…Why are these children still on these sites?…Parents wake up, and get your kids off these things….

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  • mwieczorek43
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:58pm

    Regardless whether its right or wrong for this girl to post… With all of these stories out there … I’m wondering what the Public schools are doing reading students Facebook accounts?!? Is that what our tax dollars are supposed to be going to? Monitoring our students activities OUTSIDE of school?! Inside of school -> your job. Outside of school, our job. Hands off our kids!!

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    • Oldphoto678
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:40pm

      Well bright spot, If you had done your home work like like a good little Trogbecklodyte, you might have know that the school wasn’t reading students facebook accounts.

      On the other hand it does seem that being misinformed is some kind of badge of honor with the tea party class.

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    • chips1
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:11pm

      Oldphoto:
      It wasn’t a Teaparty that started this. It was a liberal democrap that spread the word to the school because they want to control everything. If I were you, I’d check other facebook accounts to see if your on a kids post.

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    • mwieczorek43
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:20pm

      Trogbecklodyte? Wow you’re a douche. How long did that take you to come up with?
      1) WMUR-TV reported it. The Blaze simply re-reported it, this isn’t a Glenn story.
      2) WMUR-TV stated, the principle called her into his office and had her open her facebook for him to read -> b/c her account was set on private, and the principle couldnt access it. THATS THE SCHOOL READING HER FACEBOOK smart guy. In the school, in the principles office no less. A genious you are sir!
      3) Tea Party isn’t a class, you class warfair puke. Proletariat! Proletariat! Proletariat! Douche.
      4) I’m not a tea partier, though i would like to be, assumptions and misinformation seems to be your fortay.
      5) If you’re such an anti-beck, what the hell are you doing on his news site, trolling around on people comments? Nothing better to do?
      6) Game over. Move along. Get a life.

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    • smokie
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 3:09pm

      I guess perusing students’ fb is easier and more fun than grading papers, developing a curriculum, or figuring out why they are failing miserably at conveying general knowledge.
      Teachers need to do the jobs they were paid for, and need to stop trying to recreating the glory days when they were students, themselves

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  • inexiletill2012
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:58pm

    She would not have been suspended if she told a friend at home after school was out……

    So whats the difference ?

    big Obrother is watching you ………….

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:15pm

      The difference is when you write something like that it goes viral. This is no different from bullying another kid on the Internet, only it involves an adult.

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  • UlyssesP
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:58pm

    Punk kid. Weak parents. Over-reaching school.
    Next story.

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  • afishfarted
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:56pm

    ok, so we have this silly sirl posting something that we all said as kids, or something akin to it. Then we had the boy visited by the secret service (SS) becuase he posted a comment warning that Obama my be a new target after Bim Laden. Ya see folks, they’re controlling the thoughts of our youth. Not educating–indoctrinating. Get your kids and grand kids outta these thought control mills

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  • commonsenseguy
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:56pm

    but she’s 13, well maybe you should have raised her better and taught her right from wrong, instead of blaming the school for her lack of respect,just maybe you need to look in the mirror, mirrors don’t lie

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    • Lana40
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:11pm

      Oh Good Lord have mercy…….What kid hasn’t said at some point, “I wish _____ was dead?” Come on. I was a Preacher/1st Sgt daughter and I bet I did at some point. Geezzzz.

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    • GTurner
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:15pm

      Agreed. My dad would’ve done MUCH worse to me: public apology, wash the teachers car for a year, OR ELSE!

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    • begtodiffer
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 4:03pm

      My own kids wished me dead more than once. Teach them right and wrong, be the adult let them be kids.

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  • I.Gaspar
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:56pm

    Wait til the government does it to everybody….if 2012 does not go conservative, it’s only a matter of time…

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    • Texas Grasshopper
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:22pm

      Local Grain Storage Bins Being GPSed: Talked with a local farmer. They had applied for a local building permit to build a grain storage bin on their farm. Within a few days a woman shows up with a GPS unit and is GPSing where the grain bin is being built. She also GPSed the 2 other storage bins while she was there. She said it was so that in an emergency, the government would know where all the grain is at so they could take control of it. Is anyone else across the country reporting this?

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    • USAMama
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:49pm

      Wow Grasshopper, that is scary. Things are getting insane, I agree with Glenn when he says if your storing food now, don’t tell anyone. I do believe if they know you have food and we have a national shortage they will come for it.

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    • Amren
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:14pm

      Holy crap, Grasshopper!!!!!
      I guess we should also be paying in cash for our food. Too easy to track purchases with a card. Oh, and I wouldn’t use your Safeway Club Card, either.
      Thanks for the heads up!!!

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    • USACommoner
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 3:42pm

      @ Grasshopper: I did an internet search on grain storage bin gps and these how-to instructions came up: http://www.apfo.usda.gov/Internet/FSA_File/21-ps_r00_a01.pdf Did your local farmer also apply for a govt loan for his storage bin? According to the online handbook, the grain can be used as collateral. After reading through all the mumbo jumbo, it does seem that there is a government grain storage bin database, and personnel with the right permissions can perform searches on such bins as far as who owns them (or producer), what kinds of grains are stored, in which counties/regions they are stored, etc. Makes one wonder, does it not…? Thanks for bringing this to the attention of Blaze readers.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 8:26am

      I think she was Joking, I found it funny
      that a man dead since 2003 could kill anyone
      Am I the only one here that watches Southpark ?

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  • Kai Wan
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:53pm

    lol, i love New Hampshire. i really want to live there. Too many dbagocrats have taken over. time to balance the slate.

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  • krjones
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:50pm

    Come on people. We just carry stuff too far

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    • Cerealface
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:53pm

      They should wash her mouth out with soap as well.

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    • D0ntTread0nMe
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:55pm

      You have the right of free speech yes, but you must accept the consequences for that speech. Period!
      http://www.mythoughtsfromthemiddle.blogspot.com

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    • biohazard23
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:56pm

      OK, maybe what she said wasn’t entirely appropriate, but c’mon! When did it become the school‘s responsibility to monitor kids’ FB pages??

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:58pm

      CIA is attacking your children for their free speech.

      Stop allowing your children to “socialize” on CIA-run networks.

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    • snowhite
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:00pm

      right! when are we going to stop trying give minority all they want and forget the majority

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    • GayDem4Beck
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:00pm

      a little soap, a little pepper, a little hot sauce, a chili pepper… no need to keep the kid out of school.

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    • Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:01pm

      There’s a difference in SAYING something and PUBLISHING it.

      When it’s posted on Facebook, legally, it has been published.

      It can then be considered libel if it is a threat or a defamation.

      People need to learn what “free speech” means in the constitution.

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    • for-what-its-worth
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:01pm

      Over the years I got to be quite a connoisseur of soap. My personal preference was for Lux, but I found Palmolive had a nice, piquant after-dinner flavor – heady, but with just a touch of mellow smoothness. Life Buoy, on the other hand…

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    • nacilbuper
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:06pm

      2/3 of the people asked hate fractions.

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    • restorehope
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:06pm

      It’s all about control here. The schools are carrying out what the administration wants them to do and that is to spy for them. This progressive/socialist govt is greedy for total control of all Americans (evidently our young ones as well). Discipline should be administered by the parents in this instance. Does the school principal think he has total jurisdiction over his students? If so, he needs to be replaced.

      One other thought. Is what she wrote that different from any other negative thoughts expressed in the books and movies that are regularly published today? You can say just about anything about anyone else. Freedom of speech trumps all accusations of improper speech.

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    • Showtime
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:13pm

      I agree with the mother.

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    • Elena2010
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:13pm

      @Cerealface – spot on! When I was a kid, that was one way my mother dealt w/inappropriate mouthiness fm me. I knew the taste of Ivory, Zest, Dial, and Safeguard. I prefer Ivory LOL

      I’d also take away her computer for some time.

      Make the punishment fit the crime. Most kids think they hate their math teachers. (I’m a former math teacher…no biggie.)

      That math teacher and school admin need to grow some thicker skin unless the kid attacked any teacher physically. How else is the kid going to learn how to process volatile emotions later in life? Let the kid work thru the anger and disappointment before she’s old enough to do some real damage w/uncontrolled and unplanned emotional outbursts.

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    • sbeejustsaying
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:19pm

      Why is the school spying on kids facebood page? Suspension: how about home schooling?

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    • Granite Stater
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:20pm

      Just to clarify, the school was not monitoring anyones Facebook page, it was a parent of one of the girls friends that saw the post and informed the school.

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    • mullet
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:20pm

      Most likely the school administration does not monitor each students facebook, that is silly and would require them to friend them all. This probably came as a complaint from other students or parents who saw the post, and in this way is just like she said it to one of them. If she were to state that to her friends and it was overheard she would be suspended as well, and she should be.

      There are consequences to what we say, and if the administration let this slide it would send a message to students that this is OK.

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    • watchmany2k
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:26pm

      School is all about culling the herd.
      It’s not about education, never was, and certainly not now.
      It is about defining the ceiling which you will never get above.
      Look at any HS graduating class and you can tell who will be the floor-sweepers
      and who will be the ruling class.
      THE best thing you can do for your child is keep them OUT.

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    • chfields62
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:30pm

      Since when can a public school police what a student does in their own home on thier own time?? While it was in bad taste and a really stupid thing to say, the punishment should be handled by the parents, not the school. Another reason we need to get rid of “the schmuck” and company, before they invade every aspect of our personal lives…..

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    • USAMama
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:32pm

      All I can say is I am so glad that Facebook wasn’t around when I was in HS!! I woulda gotten in trouble for sure. Kids do and say stupid things, its a fact of nature. Kids also love attention so one of the stupid things they do is post the stupid things they say (or pics of the other stupid things they do).

      I’m split on this, part of me thinks the punishment is harsh, but at least they didn’t handcuff her or put her in jail for “terroristic threats” or something. These kids do need to learn that the things they post are public and will have consequences or they will keep pushing the envelope. Kids need boundaries.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:33pm

      I don’t care how old you are, you don’t bully or threaten other people over the Internet. If someone in your workplace wrote this about you or your boss, would you think it was OK? The message in question could be viewed by all the students in that school. Get the picture?

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    • Lost in the Flyover
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:33pm

      This is rediculous, this is just a kid blowing off steam, It was not a credible threat against the teacher, there was no literal intent behind those words, should the kid be spoken to.. yes maybe, should she suspended one week from school, I don’t think so… Our schools have a lot more problems than stuff like this that they should be focused on..

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    • mill
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:33pm

      Such a trivial thing.
      Then we need to slap down Wanda Sykes, Rosie Odonnell, Joy Behar, Chis Rock, yeah, they’re all supposed comedians…but they come out with worse crap than this child….and people laugh…..

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    • RightWrite
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:36pm

      She got what she deserved. The punishment is minor for the stupidity.

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    • IvanK
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:40pm

      I cannot see how the school can suspend this student for something said outside the government funded “indoctrination center”. The school is absolutely violating her right to free speech. Especially since the school is operating under “the color of law”.
      Now that schools are operated entirely by the liberal theocracy, they believe they have the right to control a students private life. While I agree the comment is inappropriate – there is no indication what-so-ever that this is any kind of threat. Just a comment from a 13 year old girl.
      I would ask where the intelligent people were in her school’s administration but then again, this is a liberal indoctrination center…

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    • stheide1
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:41pm

      Well said Bible Quotin‘ Science Fearin’ Conservative American. It’s about time people get what is coming to them. Look at the slimball we let into the White House because we did not like the choice the GOP put up against BHO. We need to elect a God fearing person, may it be a male or female, it does not matter. Let’s get our country back on the right track.

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    • JoeBtfsplk
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:41pm

      FB is a tool of the Muslim Brotherhood Jihad.

      BEWARE AMERICA – OBAMA IS ON THE MARCH.

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    • searching for the Truth
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:44pm

      There are people or ways one’s computer can be compromised. They can manipulate one’s moniker, wording, punctuation, and complete blog – all from a different location. How do I know that? It happens to me.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:47pm

      For those of you who think the punishment should have been handled by the parents, or it was not the school’s business, h*ll yes it was. The message was against a faculty member, so the school and the teacher have every right to be involved. If that kid can get away with it, the CONDUCT will go viral. One of the reasons our public school system is in the dumps is that students don’t have boundaries.

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:49pm

      Even though the question here was crouched in order to urge people to limit speech, 1st amendment advocates still prevailed. Seriously we are suspending a 13 yr old for saying something stupid at home on her on time? Oh my. Nanny state nanny state.. Such a shame that America has come to this.
      Regardless they sure are desperate to reign in that “free speech” though aren’t they?? With people freely communicating over the Internet today bypassing major Media Conglomerates our Media masters are going out of their mind… Don’t be surprised to see BIll Oreilly, Sean Hannity and even our very own GB advocate restraining speech in the coming days… lol

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    • pajamash
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:53pm

      You have the right of free speech yes, but you must accept the consequences for that speech. Period!
      _____________________________________________________________________________

      This situation is complicated.

      It was a round about threat to a teacher.
      However, shouldn’t a ruling from the judicial system come before punishment from the school?
      Are we not innocent until proven guilty?!

      I have a real problem if the school had talked to the student without a parent in the room. I have an even bigger problem with the school requesting the student to open her Facebook page while being questioned at school without a parent in the room.

      While I feel the student was in the wrong it seems to me the school staff was WAY out of line in the way they handled the situation.

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    • Timbotim
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:03pm

      Suspended? She should be EXPELLED! For the crime of suspicion of interference with government-mandated indoctrination…er…edumacation.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:03pm

      MILL: Then we need to slap down Wanda Sykes, Rosie Odonnell, Joy Behar, Chis Rock, yeah, they’re all supposed comedians…but they come out with worse crap than this child….and people laugh…..
      ———
      And I can assure you students at that school mocked the teacher too. But school is no laughing matter. Some people just don’t get context.

      I sense an anarchic vein running on The Blaze. It’s libertarian gone amok, and an “equal and opposite reaction” to Obamanation. Speaking of consequences, that one doesn’t bode well.

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    • Sam Brown
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:05pm

      I suppose they will get the TSA to search eveyone involved…with the way you voted LOL

      Sam

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:05pm

      Bible Quotin‘ Science Fearin’ Conservative American: So you are saying that your are not entitled to “free speech” when it is published?

      First of all let’s be clear about what the girl said.. She said she “wish” OBL would have killed her math teacher.. That is neither a threat or a defamation. That is a wish, a thought or a dream. In addition, not that it mattters but in this case OBL was dead.

      I’ve heard many kids over the years scream at their parents the very same thing.. Want to start incarcerating them?

      I sincerly hope as a Liberty loving American, that we will continue to provide the broadest measure of protection when it comes to our 1st amendment right to free speech.. Far too many generations have only hoped and prayed for years to be able to voice their thoughts with out fear of murder from Gov’t agents..

      Serious direct threats of loss of life or obvious libel are the only two exceptions imo.

      You know Bill Clinton mentioned last week on CNBC that we need a new Federal Agency to combat “Conspiracy theories and Rumors”.. My god if you can’t see from that our Constitution is under a direct frontal assault from “evil doers” then one is just brain dead..

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:06pm

      D0ntTread0nMe: That was very ignorant thing to say.. If you are punished for free speech then it’s not free? My goodness man do you have a brain?

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    • IvanK
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:17pm

      Kraptonite,
      He’s the skinny… She wrote, “she wished Osama had killer her math teacher”. She didn’t say she was going to kill him. Just because you “wish” someone would do something – does not constitute a threat. All teenage kids say, “I wish you were dead”. THey don’t mean it, it’s just the way teenage kids express themselves. Unfortunately, the school administrators don’t have an ounce of common sense. This is why many Schools have “Zero Tolerance” policies. ZT simply means that an administrator does not have to make a judgement – it’s merely a liberal tool that allows them to avoid the decision making process. The lazy way out!
      Schools always teach kids to “think” – so long as the kids think the way they are taught to.

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    • pajamash
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:18pm

      “MILL: Then we need to slap down Wanda Sykes, Rosie Odonnell, Joy Behar, Chis Rock, yeah, they’re all supposed comedians…but they come out with worse crap than this child….and people laugh…..”
      _______________________________________________

      Kryptonite – You forgot the biggest smuck of them all…..Bill (I’m so much better than conservatives) Maher.

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    • pajamash
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:21pm

      “For those of you who think the punishment should have been handled by the parents, or it was not the school’s business, h*ll yes it was. The message was against a faculty member, so the school and the teacher have every right to be involved. If that kid can get away with it, the CONDUCT will go viral. One of the reasons our public school system is in the dumps is that students don’t have boundaries.”
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      And Kryptonite, do you feel it was OK for the school to interrogate the student without an parent or any other counsel present?

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:22pm

      kryptonite:
      Since I have to tell you this then it’s rather obvious that our public shcools have failed you and it brings me no great pleasure to do this but for the record:

      If I were to say:

      I “wish” someone that was “dead” would kill kryptonite.

      and

      I am sick n tired and angry at kryptonite and I’m going to kill him.

      One is a threat the other is not.. I sincerely hope that you are able to see the difference.

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    • pajamash
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:25pm

      “And I can assure you students at that school mocked the teacher too. But school is no laughing matter. Some people just don’t get context.

      I sense an anarchic vein running on The Blaze. It’s libertarian gone amok, and an “equal and opposite reaction” to Obamanation. Speaking of consequences, that one doesn’t bode well.”
      ____________________________________________________________________

      Kryptonite – Is it safe to assume you are somehow tied to the teaching profession? You teach, a spouse/loved one teaches, someone close to you teaches….?

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:26pm

      Techengineer11: Seriously we are suspending a 13 yr old for saying something stupid at home on her on time?
      ————–
      She didn’t say it, she wrote it. And it wasn’t at home. It was on the Internet.

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    • coladude
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:29pm

      This should not be news and the girl was right.

      http://politicalbowl.com – Political Videos

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    • Who would Jesus bomb?
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:32pm

      If she’d only said she wished George W. Bush had killed her math teacher, no one would have gotten upset!

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    • Wayner
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:34pm

      I hate Obama…. Am I violating my rights of free speech by saying that?

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    • apbt55
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:35pm

      Yeah to those saying this is a threat get real. Do yourself a favor and take a long walk off a short peer.
      Oh wait by your definition that is a threat, seriously people get over yourselves.

      She has the right to publish her opinion. Maybe her math teacher is a real tool, this is a public school. And maybe she does wish he would just die.

      What now you people want to control other’s opinions. Nice way to preserve freedom.

      It would be different if she said I am going to ask OBL to kill him, but she didn’t.

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    • Heather Mae 74
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:35pm

      @ Donttreadonme

      punishment for speaking would negate “Free Speach” don’t you think. I often wish that something would happen to all the commies running the schools and holding office before they destroy my kids future should I be put in prison for 5 days for saying that?

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    • AirForceMom2
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:35pm

      I dont agree….this is not an appropriate comment by a 13 year old regardless of where it was made.

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    • AirForceMom2
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:37pm

      Who said the school was monitering FB? One of her “friends” could have told on her.

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    • pajamash
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:44pm

      Kryptonite – I have four examples of incidents that have happened to my child or friends of his in school this year that come from the other end of the spectrum, the teacher(s) making comments. Not writing things on Facebook but comments made in class or during a sporting event. You tell me if what the teachers said were alright or not and if any punishment should have been levied against the teacher(s).

      1) Teacher makes comments to a student, DURING CLASS (more than one instance of the comment) , that they should not be in the class.
      2) Teacher makes the following comment to two boys that were talking in class, “are you two flirting?”.
      3) Coach tells three boys during a practice, in front of other peers, “You should not go out (for this sport) in the future as (this sport) is not suited for you”.
      4) Coach tells a boy, in the locker room again in front of his peers, “You should loose a few poinds”.

      As most would guess, no disciplinary action was taken in any of the incidents.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:54pm

      @PAJAMASH
      No, that was wrong. I agree that a parent should have been present.

      @IVANK
      Of course it was not a real threat. Your perspective of whether a person is thick or thin-skinned is not applicable to this situation. This is not personal. It has to do with undermining the teacher’s authority in the classroom, so it is a role issue. But you can’t have a debate without resorting to name-calling, so I don’t expect you to grasp that.

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    • Capt'nYams
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:56pm

      Yeah, there’s NO WAY this was a death threat! It was a kid making a stupid joke about how much she hates math class. Wake up people.

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    • Heather Mae 74
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 3:14pm

      @ PAJAMASH

      How about this my sons current math teacher did these following things to him this year
      1. when my son didn’t understand the skills they were working on and kept asking questions she yelled at him in front of the whole class and said that he would be living in his parents basement when he grows up.
      2. She went up to a student who she thaught was his big sister because of a simular last name and said “I hate your brother”
      And can you guess what the principal told me when I called to complain? He said he was aware of this teachers problems but there was nothing that he could do because she had seniority and his hands were tied.

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    • Edct
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 3:18pm

      Schools are too intrusive and she shoud sue the school for every penny she can get.

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    • pajamash
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 3:49pm

      @Heather Mae 74

      I feel your pain (spoken in my best Bill Clinton voice of course). FAIL on the school systems part.

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    • begtodiffer
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 3:54pm

      Can’t they send her to a FEMA camp somewhere.

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    • Wolf
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 3:56pm

      The school should be reprimanded and made to pay for her mental anguish and invasion of her privacy. None of their business what anyone says outside of class. As though something like this is new? I bet there are hundreds of kids daily wishing one of their disliked teachers will croak before morning. How many here have wished somone who bothered them was dead?
      More nanny state invasion.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 3:56pm

      TECH,
      But you know — or I hope you do — that if this had been a real threat it would have been reported to the police and/or the kid would have been expelled. It is called a threat because technically speaking that is how it can be dealt with officially by the school.

      Now to the real meaning of her words, I think you are the one who falls short here. No offense, but language is not just about the literal meaning of words. To interpret a message, you need to look at intent, context, mode of delivery and relationship between the speakers, among other things. There are many factors that determine the meaning of a given message. This girl used UBL to express her “hate” toward her teacher. If this had taken place in the classroom, it could have been handled easily and effectively; teachers and parents are used to that kind of reaction from young people. In this case, the teacher was rendered powerless to stop it in its tracks. Not only that, but it was done in a way to rally peer support against the teacher, thereby undermining not only that teacher’s authority, but every other teacher’s, since the conduct would have been replicated by other students. Thus the kid merited suspension. There is an appropriate age to be socialized. After that, there are juvenile detention centers and then prisons. Is that what you want? Or are you one of those people who believe kids should be allowed to grow out of their bad behavior?

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    • Tony Cat
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 3:59pm

      Did you people watch the video?? The school was not monitoring or spying on kids’ FB pages! A parent saw it and simply informed the school, then when asked to show it, the girl did. She could’ve refused, but did not. She could’ve chosen to have the thought, but not Publish it, but she did – she put in on the Internet!

      And I’m sorry, this is not a free speech issue. You said you wish someone had killed your teacher, besides the fact that it was OBL, you wished death upon your teacher! You openly shared on the Internet that you wish the world’s most notorious terrorist had murdered your teacher, and you’re suprised you got a 5 day suspension?? Are you frickin kidding me?? WTH is wrong with you?

      You’re all frickin sexist, you know that. Cause if this was a 13 year old BOY with a mohawk, then you’d think this was a RED FLAG, & the school needs to kick him out or put him in counseling. But since it was a “cute little girl” you’re all like “oh, she’s just a kid” – “let her mom handle it, this has nothing to do with the school”… excuse me!? It DOES involve the school when a kid talks about wanting her TEACHER dead!!

      This is a perfect example of Liberals & their desire for a Consequence-Free-Environment! You said something Admittedly “inappropriate” well guess what – inappropriate means “BAD” and when you do BAD things, you get Consequences! LESSON LEARNED!!

      Stop trying to take this lesson away from her, by pretending she was victimi

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    • markamerica
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 3:59pm

      #1: This doesn’t constitute a threat. She cannot tell OBL what to do, even if he weren’t fishfood. So let‘s dispense with this ’threat’ nonsense.
      #2: The parents should be mortified, nevertheless. The parents should take away her internet privileges.
      #3: If this was not posted using school computers, the school should have nothing to say in this case. Period. They are NOT the parents.
      #4: If this WAS posted using a school computer, AND the school has an explicit and clear policy to which parents agree prior to students’ use of computers regarding such conduct, the school can take any action it wishes consequent to her actions.

      These things really are simple if you remember principles and apply them. Now, I have no illusions but that any number of people will take this too far. I have no doubt that some people will look at this as ‘no harm, no foul.’ I realize all of that. What makes me worry is that the parents didn’t act to deal with this, independent of the school. Parents wonder why they find themselves yielding more and more of their parental authority to schools and government. HELLO! Start acting like parents. It‘s not your job to be the kid’s friend. It’s your job to be a parent. That means: Saying “No,” often, and meaning it, at any cost.

      Mark

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    • pajamash
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 4:03pm

      …”This shouldn’t be an issue at all, at least not a public one. Why is it that everytime some parent’s kid gets suspended for doing something childish, the media feels some great need to make it a nationwide issue?…”
      ______________________________________________________________________________

      Obviously the media is hoping for a reaction that will get them noticed for their report.

      I feel there is a huge hypocrisy within our system.

      We recently saw a video in which a boy was physically beat without any reaction on his part and the teacher in the class did nothing to assist the student.

      What is this ‘teaching’ our children? — That no-one will be there for them when they are in need.

      Our school systems will go after a student for writing something foolish on Facebook and hurl stiff punishment at the student. At the same time when a teacher does the same thing directed at a student, examples above as well as a college professor (Remember the article about Ellen Lewin?) who sent a profane e-mail response to college republicans yet no punishment is made upon the educator(s). If a punishment is attempted the union will do everything to block it.

      What are we teaching our children? That our system is corrupt and favors special interest groups over the students welfare.

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 4:03pm

      kryptonite: That is a very foreign form of reasoning to me.. I can honestly say that I do not know anyone in my personal life that thinks that way. May I ask if you are a Conservative Constitutionalist and if you are multi generational American?

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 4:14pm

      PAJAMASH & HEATHER,
      Teachers are a problem too. They say inappropriate and egregious things, but we are not balancing out two wrongs here, are we?
      ——
      Wayner: “I hate Obama…. Am I violating my rights of free speech by saying that?”

      Once again, can we put things in context? How does your hating Obama affect his ability to be a dictator? Pray tell me. sigh.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 4:30pm

      techengineer11
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 4:03pm
      kryptonite: That is a very foreign form of reasoning to me.. I can honestly say that I do not know anyone in my personal life that thinks that way. May I ask if you are a Conservative Constitutionalist and if you are multi generational American?
      ——–
      Tech, Are you trying to box me into your way of reasoning, namely, I don’t agree with you so I am not a Constitutionalist (conservative is redundant, BTW)? It looks like the school agrees with me. How is that “a foreign form of reasoning?”

      I don’t have any friends who feel the way you do about Jews. Talk about “foreign” way of thinking… LOL.

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    • pajamash
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 4:31pm

      “Teachers are a problem too. They say inappropriate and egregious things, but we are not balancing out two wrongs here, are we?”
      _____________________________________________________________

      Kryptonite – If you have read my posts you will understand I am not saying the child is innocent and nothing should happen. I do however feel there is a HUGE double standard in this case:

      1) Teachers are protected when doing something wrong yet students (children) are given huge punishment.

      2) Punishment without due process.

      3) Presumption of innocence was ignored and skirting of the student’s right to have counsel.

      And these points are just a few in a long list I could compile but I hope I make my point.

      Answer me this. Would a teacher be accused without a union representative being present?

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    • pajamash
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 4:42pm

      “…They say inappropriate and egregious things, but we are not balancing out two wrongs here, are we?…”
      _____________________________________________________________________________

      I feel what I have pointed out about the system is fair. If what I pointed out was completely from left field I would give you this one but I feel my point is valid. If a student is supposed to open themselves up for punished for an action of theirs then a teacher should be held to the same scrutiny. Teachers are not. So what are we teaching our children?

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    • Patriot Z
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 4:51pm

      ok listen folks..this is not free speech. its not a death threat either. its a stupid kid saying something stupid. if the school is monitoring kids FB pages then i say thats wrong. BUT she its not unreasonable to have a 5 day suspention for something like that. its not overly harsh. lets clarify free speech. it means the govt cant tell you what to say or think..aka the ;fairness; docterine. it does not mean i can say anything i want no consequences allowed. if i walk up to a big dude with a hot girlfriend. the govt cannot make a law stating that i tell her she has a great rack and i want to sleep with her. her boyfriend is not forbidden from finding that ‘objectionable’

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    • KewlBigDan
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 4:53pm

      This story is not about whether what the kid said was right or wrong according to Free Speech, it is Whether the School should be meting out the punishment. It is not the place of the school to punish what the kids do outside the grounds.

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    • cessna152
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 5:01pm

      @Bible Quotin‘ Science Fearin’ Conservative American

      Ummm… the Constitution does not have a bunch of goofy liberal, progressive addendums attached to it. Speech is FREE and yes it is UNLIMITED. Can you prove it differently?
      Amendment 1 – Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note

      “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,……”

      one thing the the Constitution does, is limit what GOVERNMENT can do. In other words, the Constitution is a contract which LIMITS the government to what it can do.

      There is either FREE speech or NO FREE speech. It is one or the other…you’re either pregnant or not.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 5:12pm

      PAJAMASH,
      I DID answer your question. I agree with everything you just said. I am not defending teachers, per se. I am defending boundaries, like the true conservative that I am. Letting students do whatever they like is as bad as letting teachers abuse their power. It’s all part of lib-induced social disintegration. There was another incident recently where two boys got physical in the classroom while the teacher stood by and watched, all because teachers are not supposed to “touch” students. Can’t you see that liberalism-communism thrive when they are able to “normalize” social chaos — and we buy into it in the name of “free speech,” useful idiots that we are.

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    • pajamash
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 5:25pm

      @Kryptonite – Fair enough. Attempting to get a total picture from a post limited to 1500 characters or less is difficult.

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    • American Soldier (Separated)
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 5:46pm

      While the First Amendment technically doesn’t apply here, being that Congress didn’t prevent this girl from saying what she said, but there is the issue of whether a school can discipline this girl for behaviors outside of the school during off hours. That is the issue here. However, we don’t know the whole story. Did she make her post on a school computer? Did she make her post on her smart phone during class (on campus during open hours) or did she post it at home that night?

      Do they even have the capability to determine that?

      Depending on what the state allows for the school to do, the school may or may not have the authority to censor certain language.

      Bottom line: If the girl made her post after hours off campus, the school has no right to discipline her. Period.

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    • piper22
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 5:51pm

      @Bible Quotin‘ Science Fearin’ Conservative American

      A worthy sentiment, but the Constitution makes no distinction between speaking and publishing.

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 6:00pm

      kryptonite: Sounds like birds of a feather flock together.. Lot’s of ignornat friends eh or maybe the same tribe?

      Seriously I blieve race religion gender sexual orientation and national origin all play an important role in forming ones outlook on the issues. Your view was just so strange to me that I was curious.. If you‘re ashamed or feel that it’s none of my business I understand.

      You can learn a lot about an individual just knowing those basics.. lol

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    • pajamash
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 6:15pm

      “Bottom line: If the girl made her post after hours off campus, the school has no right to discipline her. Period.”
      ____________________________________________________________________________

      @soldier – The school has a duty to protect its employees. In that regard I believe they have a right to pursue the matter. The student is only a 13 years old yet Eric Harris and Dylan Kliebold were only 18 when they went thru with their plans at Columbine High School. Now, before anyone jumps on that, I am not linking the two situations just pointing out that young people CAN do terrible things after making remarks so it is the schools duty to pursue a report such as the one they received from the other parent. I don’t have a problem with the school pursuing an investigation about the allegation. I do have a problem with the way the school performed the investigation.

      This student deserves some form of discipline (I say this as the mother confirmed her daughter did write what she is accused of writing). It should be of concern that the school did not allow the student to seek counsel. Especially due to the fact that she is a minor. This should be a concern for all of us. The government is NOT the be all and end all. The government does make mistakes. The government should not attempt to exclude, thwart or go around a parent or legal guardian. And the school should not disregard the students legal rights to counsel.

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    • Professional Infidel
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 6:24pm

      I wish he would have gotten Enciom. perhaps i will be kicked out. oh well, free speech isn’t all that free.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 6:25pm

      techengineer: Sounds like birds of a feather flock together.. Lot’s of ignornat friends eh or maybe the same tribe?
      —-
      So when you instigate people to adopt the kind of mentality that led to Reichskristallnacht and subsequently gave most Germans an excuse to look the other way while Jews were being dragged out of their homes and picked off the streets, THAT is OK , but I am “ignorant?”

      ==> “Seriously I blieve race religion gender sexual orientation and national origin all play an important role in forming ones outlook on the issues. Your view was just so strange to me that I was curious.. If you‘re ashamed or feel that it’s none of my business I understand.”
      —-
      Curious? Don’t think so. You were personalizing the attack. You still are. We can debate ideas, if you like. Don’t invade my privacy. :)

      You can learn a lot about an individual just knowing those basics.. lol

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    • FLALawMan
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 6:32pm

      How many of you talking mouths actually watched the video? It was never an incident for the school to get involved in. She posted that she “wished Osama Bin Laden had killed her math teacher”. She never threatened the teacher, she just wished that some force had intervened earlier to prevent him from being her teacher. And then another kid’s mother found the post and reported it to the SCHOOL?! Why not report it to her mother? Why go the school? I knew lots of kids growing up that wished harm and even death to their teachers. Should they have been suspended also? The real icing on the cake was that the principle refused to comment evoking “student privacy” issues. What about the privacy of the student’s FaceBook page when you ASKED her to open it in your office? She had “privacy” settings enabled on her page that prevented the school, and the teacher involved, from being able to read the post. This is an absolute travesty of justice

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    • No1YaKnow
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 7:59pm

      She’s 13 and there was no death threat there. This is b.s. Agree with the mother.

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    • markamerica
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 8:55pm

      This is no different, in fact, from the preacher who prayed Obama would die a natural death sooner rather than later. The SS went out and rattled his cage, and he shut up, but the fact is that a prayer is a wish is a hope is a pipe-dream. No different here, except this: The ‘wisher’ in this case is a minor child.

      Somebody actually remarked: “Well, this isn’t congress…” as if the first Amendment applies only to federal issues, when the body of law existing firmly says your rights under the federal constitution are supreme(supremacy clause) all the way down to local government. We had a civil war over that and other issues.

      So the school, as a local government institution, is constrained by the same things.

      The bigger issue is this: The school, during the attendance day, is acting in loco parentis, meaning they act with the authority of the parent in all matters, presumptively.

      I will go back to saying what I’ve said for 20 years: If you give your children over to the public schools, you deserve what you get, which will be an overly-persecuted, under-educated, supremely-propagandized dolt. Yes, yes, there are exceptions, but I am talking about the general rule. In the end, while it is the sole province of the parents to deal with this, unless it happened on school grounds or on a school computer, I don’t feel much sympathy for Mom in this case. Either re-take control of your kid or bear the consequences. And I mean that in all senses.

      Mark

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    • carnifex
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:38pm

      @FOR-WHAT-ITS=WORTH
      I love the scene where Ralphie’s helping his dad change that tire. That movie plays out so much like what I went through as a kid. I saw the sequel on PBS once called “Ollie Hopnoodles Haven of Bliss”. Ralphie, and the family go for a week of fishing to some camp. Rains constantly, and of course, “They shoulda been here last week. The fish was really biting then.“ Its not near as funny as ”A Christmas Story” though it had the same cast.

      CHIVALRY–NOT ALL GIRLS LIKE IT. JUST THE ONES WORTH DYING FOR.

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:07pm

      We need to get a handle on this issue…

      Here is an interview with Geert Wilders (from the Netherlands)…he is being interviewed on a Canadian program called “The Source”…The clip is 44 minutes long…but…the interview with Geert is the first 35 minutes…YOU NEED TO TAKE THE TIME TO LISTEN TO HIM! I totally AGREE with everything he says…He makes the statement, “A Muslim who is considered ”moderate”, according to their own Koran, would no longer be considered a Muslim”…AMEN! If you haven’t read the Koran, you should do so…that is, if you really do care about this nation!

      http://trevorloudon.com/2011/05/geert-wilders-in-his-own-words/

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    • casseopea42
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:09pm

      my son is 16…he is MY son, he doenst have free speech. I instruct him on what is appropriate and not. When he is old enough to serve his country then he gets free speech. What is next? a 5 year olds right to talk back to his/her parents?

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    • independentvoteril
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:35pm

      Kids strike out verbally.. that does not mean they mean what they say.. doesn’t make it right but does NOT make it the place for the school to suspend her.. tell her parents YES.. let the parents take care of it..she didn’t even say it in school or out loud.. she wrote it on her Facebook page.. How many kids say “I hate you” or “I wish I were dead” when they are told NO ?? No doubt if you said it at home you said it REALLY quietly so you getting get a slap upside the head for saying it.. and any person with an ounce of brains knows it wasn’t meant..

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    • independentvoteril
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:45pm

      @Bible Quotin‘ Science Fearin’ Conservative American.. here’s the thing.. KIDS don‘t understand it’s being published to them FACEBOOK is like talking to your friends.. NOT writing a BOOK.. and SELLING it.. and a 13 year old does not understand the LAW .. and the way they teach in public school she’s lucky if she can READ.. the SCHOOL is ONLY responsible for someones kids from time the bell rings in the morning til the time it rings letting them go home END OF STORY.. every parent should BLOCK all teachers from their kids facebook pages.. I am concerned about teachers and schools that SNOOP into my home via my child’s facebook pages seems a little creepy to me..

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    • jackrorabbit
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:57pm

      “We carry stuff too far” Like ignoring the VA Tech shooter and his problems?
      How about the loon that shot Gabby?
      She made a stupid statement from what she and her mother said, but how do we know what is actually going on in her head? Columbine anyone?
      She shouldn’t have been suspended, but she should be forced into counseling to make sure that she isn’t psychotic in some way.

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    • nptden
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 12:11am

      How many students were suspended when they called for Bush to be killed?

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    • Seneca
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 12:27am

      I remember movies being made about Bush being the target of an assasination attempt. Waw the director reprimended? Nope.
      How ’bout all those actors clamoring for the death fo Palin, Plain’s grandson? Any repercusions? Nope.
      Does anyone remember Letterman hinting at Bristol Palin being raped by a baseball player? How much time did he serve for that attrocity. Yeah, I thought so.
      So now a girl says something stupid and she gets suspended. By they way, she didn’t threaten the teacher, whe expressed her hope. Stupid, no question about it, but there’s a BIG difference between threatening someone and saying “I hope this or that happens to you”.

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    • Parnell3rd
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 2:43am

      She’s 13, she’s not old enough to have free speach rights! Ops! Did I say that out loud?

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    • jbl8199
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 6:08am

      this is one of the many reasons I hate Facebook. There’s just no privacy.

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    • frodis
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 7:52am

      No I think she got exactly what she should have gotten. Yes we have free speech and all but you can’t say you want someone dead, like your teacher and think you won’t get punished for it. If you say it’s okay then everyone will post that on their Facebook page knowing they can get away with it. If that’s free speech then calling people the “N” word would be too. But that’s hate speech. Their is a line you have to draw somewhere.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 8:22am

      Train the Slaves to turn each other in for speaking freely on their own website.
      while Corrupt Bankers on wall st and the Corrupt
      Private Federal reserve are destroying your futures with FIAT toilet paper
      Or selling the same Mortgage over seas hundreds of times.
      What about the crimes of GS,JPM,AIG and
      Citi bank to name a few ????

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 8:23am

      Her Mom should pull her out and home school anyway.

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    • gofigureinternational
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 9:54am

      With Freedom comes responsibility Ms. Kimberly Dell’isola. You might want to teach that to your daughter rather than turn her into a victim, since she is no doubt threatening a teacher’s life indirectly. Let me ask you this; if it were the President, V.P., Senator, Congressman, or sitting Judge, would you think that suspending her for 5 days was too harsh? Her spoiled little bahookie would be hauled in for serious questioning by the Secret Service (rightfully so) and if she were a few years older, imprisoned. The people who want to take the Constitution and pick and choose what is convenient, while infringing on SOMEONE ELSE’S rights, make me sick. The teacher could be a left or right wing tyrant and he does not deserve to have his life threatened by a KID! If you do not like the curriculum that is being taught to your daughter, move her to a different school or bring it to the school board.

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    • Cerealface
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 11:15am

      Little girls are the devil.

      Never wish death upon someone. It’s bad to do, now here are the consequences. Deal with it.

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    • Mee the People
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 11:35am

      they need to wash out the schools brain with soap

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    • jakewages
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 1:18pm

      Let me get this staight, they won’t punish a kid for insulting or hitting a teacher in school but they will suspend one for what they do at home? let the parents handle home and keep big brother out of our lives.

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 1:37pm

      kryptonite “So when you instigate people to adopt the kind of mentality that led to Reichskristallnacht and subsequently gave most Germans an excuse to look the other way while Jews were being dragged out of their homes and picked off the streets..”

      They had plenty plenty of reasons to look the other way.. the excuse was the Jewish thug murdering the German ambassador. I doubt many German men of that time regret at all what happened privately. I’m sure they felt they got what they deserved…

      Your tribe may cry howl deceive and demand sympathy from others through your lies and Media deceptions but you want get it from me. I know the truth.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 5:51pm

      NSA take on your 4th amendment rights
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGhcECnWRGM&feature=player_embedded

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