14 Kids Fathered With Free Sperm: Feds Tell Man to Stop
- Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:08am by
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Trent Arsenault with Guatemalan children in 2008. (Photo via www.trentdonor.org)
SAN FRANCISCO (The Blaze/AP) — Trent Arsenault, 36, is being made an example of, and it’s not for his generosity in donating his sperm for free to sire 14 children with four more on the way.
Physicians and the federal government are using the example of this San Francisco Bay area man to show the risks posed by the informal market for sperm donations, which doctors consider unsafe but some people call a civil liberties issue.
Arsenault offers his sperm for free to women he meets through his website. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration have issued him an order to cease and desist, which he is contesting.
While sperm bank donors remain nameless and some men offer their sperm through anonymous ads on Craigslist, Arsenault’s site is filled with photographs of the trim, blond Midwest native. In its letter, the agency describes Arsenault’s service as a business. Arsenault disagrees.
“This is not a business or a clinic. It’s just people partnering up to have a baby out of compassion,” he said.
Arsenault says he donates sperm out of a sense of service to help people who want to have children but can’t afford conventional sperm banks. The 36-year-old minister’s son has four more children on the way.
“I always had known through people praying at church that there’s fertility issues,” Arsenault told The Associated Press. “I thought it would just be a neat way of service to help the community.”
The FDA sent Arsenault the letter late last year telling him he must stop because he does not follow the agency’s requirements for getting tested for sexually transmitted diseases within seven days before giving sperm. The FDA did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
Violators of FDA regulations on human cells and tissues face up to a year in prison and a $100,000 fine, according to guidelines published on the agency’s website.
Arsenault gets tested regularly, but following the FDA’s rules would make it impossible to keep offering his sperm for free, he said.
“The regulations may be little bit strict, but I think that’s appropriate,” said Dr. Mitchell Rosen, director of the University of California, San Francisco Fertility Preservation Center.
Rosen said it’s not uncommon for women to use donated sperm from someone they know. But trusting a donor who is being honest about his background is no substitute for screening for diseases that could be passed on to the mother or child, he said.
A sperm bank will also isolate the actual sperm cells from the donor’s semen, which reduces the risk of passing along pathogens, Rosen said. “In this situation there’s no reduction of risk. It‘s just as if they’re going out and having a one night stand.”
At the time of the FDA letter, the Silicon Valley computer security specialist had made 328 sperm donations to 46 women, a number he said is now higher. He can continue to donate sperm while the case is pending.
Experts say the volume of sperm donations by Arsenault creates risks for future generations. They say the greater the number of children, the greater the chances of spreading a genetic defect. Children who don‘t know they’re related could also unwittingly have sex, though unlike the anonymous sperm donor system used by sperm banks, Arsenault keeps careful track of his offspring.
“There‘s a danger of accidental incest or inbreeding if you’re the father of 14 children” and a habitual sperm donor, said bioethicist Arthur Caplan at University of Pennsylvania. “Nobody should be involved as a sperm donor on that level. It’s not safe.”
Caplan said the FDA may have a tough time asserting its authority over this kind of informal activity, though. Other medical experts think the agency may have a case since it deals with the safety of public health.
“He should not be allowed to do it unless he gets himself tested” and follow the same rules as sperm banks, said Dr. Stanley Korenman, associate dean of ethics at the UCLA David Geffen School of Medicine.
The difference between asking a friend to donate sperm and the San Francisco case is a matter of volume, experts says.
“This guy is doing it commercially. He’s turning out a lot of babies. If you have a friend doing it once or twice it’s not a big deal,” Korenman said.
The oldest child Arsenault has fathered is now 4. He and the recipients, whom he describes as “intimate partners,” sign a legal agreement ahead of time stripping him of any custody rights and absolving him of any financial responsibility for the children.
But he says that part of the reason of making himself publicly visible as a sperm donor rather than remaining anonymous, as is typical with sperm banks, is because he and some of the families hope and expect he will have some involvement in the children’s lives in the future.
He says he believes his case comes down to constitutional issues of a right to privacy and reproductive choice.
“It’s not that much more different than a couple knowing each other who want to have a baby,” Arsenault said. “It’s just from me it comes in a cup versus sex.”
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Comments (156)
aguraki
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:55am‘A sperm bank will also isolate the actual sperm cells from the donor’s semen, which reduces the risk of passing along pathogens’
wow, some one has never had sex before.
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 9:35amIf he was actually having sex with women who wanted a baby would the FDA still issue a “cease & desist” order? Last time I checked sex between two consenting adults was perfectly legal and didn’t require a FDA approval.
Report Post »FNTM
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 9:49amThe FDA has slipped down the slope of looking idiotic! The FDA attempts to ban or control semen in a medical environment but doesn‘t and can’t do anything about the millions of free sperm swaps that occur on a daily basis. How foolish can they make themselves look?
This is a prime example of supposedly intelligent people talking themselves into doing something exceedingly stupid!
Report Post »ozchambers
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 10:19amsponsored ad at the bottom of this story: “Glenn Beck declared this one of his ”favorite gifts” on national TV….”
BWAHAHAHA!
Report Post »Inappropriately_Conceived
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 10:20amActually some judges might consider this gifting of gametes a SEXUALLY INTIMATE PARTNERSHIP (SIP) or = SEX. If the guy gave his semen fresh in a cup to the recipient and the Babymama inseminated herself without a doctor actually doing the “method of conception”…… then it is no different than a ruthless women hell bent on getting pregnant taking fresh semen out of a condom. And She can go after the sperm donor for child support. Certain questions about the transactions and methods of insemination are not being disclosed. Is there a reason why this Donor may soon have DCSS knocking down his door for his debts to society. Unless we once and for all start holding single mothers truly accountable for their procreation choices 1
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:00amNO! The FDA is just doing what they do as a massive piece of big government does. The bigger the government the smaller the citizen. Just the FDA telling you outright (an arm of the fed gov) to stop and desist is another example of the soft tyranny America is atleast for now. When they lock this young man up, you will know how bad it really is. People are having sex and running out on their partners everyday leaving them to fend for themselves, in these cases the gov steps in with funds for the now single mom….think their jealous?
Report Post »TXVET48
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:05amFollow the money. That’s why the FDA is upset.
last frontier
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:23amWhat’s the difference if he was going to bars and nightclubs transferring cells, just like half of all the welfare recipients.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:45amThis story is fitting of the National Inquirer.
Report Post »db321
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:53amNow I see why Liberal want God out of this Country – I too am ashamed to let God see what is happening. Give these Liberals an inch and they will take a Mile.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:01pm@ROOK
That would be (E)nquirer.
And enquiring, or inquiring minds still wan’t to know if you are OK with Congress enriching themselves by trading on insider information?
You know, because it’s legal, it’s OK, right?
Report Post »Ronko
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:10pmGood they should tell him to stop, 14 is way too many.
Report Post »aragona
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:45pmIt‘s creepy and I wouldn’t do it but it‘s none of the government’s business.
Report Post »docvet
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 4:50pm@MIDWESTMOM
Report Post »My thoughts exactly. Is the govt going to address every teen boy who gets a girl preggers? How about the guy that picks up a woman in a bar (often) and gets her (them) pregnant? None of these boys/men have been tested. And on and on and on….
Papadoc
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:00pmUntil the FDA also starts tracking the private actions of ghetto daddies and rednecks who are doing the same thing and creating more welfare babies on Medicaid, perhaps they should mind their own business.
Ask yourself who filed the complaint. Him or the mommas? Nope! I‘d say the primary objection is probably from people who are making a fortune off of sperm donation and don’t like the precedent of people doing this in an organized fashion without their involvement. Clinics don’t keep track of the babies they make and who they date, but this guy does. So their stated fear is actually a bigger problem with the way they do business. Their real objection is the cash they aren’t making and the idea that they are being cut out of the loop.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:17pmIsn’t this the way the weak and the incapable in nature procreate?
Report Post »Anadara
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:51pmSeems to me direct injection is a better way to go. Anyway, those clowns at the FDA are just protecting their turf. That’s another bureaucracy that needs to be gutted.
Report Post »wellhangingchad
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 7:24amHe violated FDA regulation oh human cells and tissue? Wow! How long before we are considered human cells and tissue and we get strictly regulated?
Report Post »Jinglebob
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 11:13amI was under the impression that free sperm was easy to find.
Report Post »rabblechat
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:38amThe paranoia about incest is unfounded. Anyone with any experience in animal husbandry knows that virtually all domesticated species be it barred rock chickens or beagles come from a very small (typically a handful) of individuals. Even if a set of half siblings reproduced its very unlikely they would have problems. Typically inbreeding issues only pop up after several generations of very close ( father daughter or full sibling) breeding.
Report Post »I bet if you look at some of the “elite” families in the east cost, you would find less genetic diversity than between two of this mans offspring.
Its a shame that we have let our government regulate every aspect of our lives, all the way down to how we distribute and acquire our seed.
shagstar
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 2:15pmthis is the only way liberals can make babies! their bodies are so polluted with meds that they just can’t concieve normally!
Report Post »Jennifer_D
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 9:55pm@Shagstar
Homosexual men and women can‘t conceive and that is this guy’s target population. Without very current disease testing it is possible for the recipient to contract a disease. It says alot that people are opting for “free” sperm, placing themselves in danger, and risking the health of an unborn child.
What is going to happen when these people realize that it is much more expensive to raise a child than they previously thought and sue for child support? What is going to happen when these children start asking about their father? What if genetic issues do arise as a result of this man‘s DNA fusing with the recipient’s? This man shouldn’t be playing God.
Best part of the guy’s website:
fundamental rights are a feature of the U.S. Constitution, which, in the language of the U.S. Declaration of Independence, “all [human beings]“ are ”endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, among these [being]:”
Life – (cf. right to life)
Liberty (cf. freedom, free will, personal liberty)
the pursuit of Happiness
The fifth amendment of the United States:
“No person shall be… deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law”
Wow; all human beings are endowed by their CREATOR (GOD!) with certain rights including LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. God mentioned in conjunction with the law and acknowledgement of the right to life! Oh my!
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:37amAlex Jones sounds less kooky everyday.
Report Post »Rightallalong
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 9:35amI was thinking the exact same thing. When Alex Jones’ wild speculation starts becoming more often true than false we are entering a very scary world of government control.
So why does not the GIVERment go after some of the guys that have more than 14 kids with women all over the place – so thats ok to be donating sprem via sex with several hundred women and knockingup 20 or 30?
I think this is about the time the frog says – “Wow, this water in my pot sure is warm … I’m sure it will be fine”
Wake up people!
Report Post »rb5family
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:54amyour post caught my eye… I used to listen to Alex Jones as mostly hysterical entertainment… but it’s making more and more sense… I don’t know whether to get worried or hysterical about it…
Report Post »Sumrknght
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:28am… and the government is going into all the housing projects to stop fathers from cranking out babies that will be nothing but welfare checks, when? The government is so concerned about the lives of these children that they will stop abortion clinics, when??????
yeah right.
Report Post »Temporal
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:17amConceiving children outside of the necessary familial support structure is not in the best interests of the child. Study after study shows that the children born to married mothers and fathers have a much better chance of success in life.
With that said, the government’s prosecution of the donor is hypocritical. They now teach in the schools that even minors are sexually “autonomous” and that their parents are to have little or no say in their sexual activities. Worse, when unmarried mothers and fathers run around having litters of children, the government mails them a check.
Report Post »BrianBDB
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:29amAs an individual, did he give the FDA jurisdiction over him?
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:48amThey will be adding a warning label to his manhood I suppose…
Report Post »Temporal
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:19pmTo Briandbd:
If you listen to the rabid left, yes he gave the FDA consent to peek in his bedroom by the fact that both he and his recipients travel on the tax-payer’s roads in the process of sharing their DNA.
Of course, he does have a work-around available to him. All he needs do is donate the old-fashioned way and the government will likely defend his “right” to keep doing basically the same thing.
Sadly, as with most things the government does, it’s more concerned about the process than the end result.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 10:52am@ Brianbdb
Report Post »Exactly. The FDA’s jurisdiction is suspect — to put it mildly. A state could use its police powers in this matter, but where is the Federal authority? It reminds me of the Obamacare lawsuit that SCOTUS will hear.
Noonien_Soong
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:07amIn ancient times the Pharaohs, Ramses in particular fathered at least a hundred offspring. It makes me wonder how this all turned out in modern times with genetic anomalies amongst the Arab population.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:20amRameses was Moses, if I’m not mistaken.
Ra-Meses = “Moses -Son of Ra.”
Report Post »TedPearson
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:48pmRa-meses=Ra(the sun god)-Meses(is born)
Report Post »Moses= Meses(is born)
Gonzo
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:03amSo now the Federal Government controls our sperm? Get Bill Clinton under control and then we’ll talk Feds.
Report Post »Flyovergirl
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:54amThis is twisted , sick and cruel. I feel sorry for the kids who are the victims of this farce.
Report Post »yancie
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:49amI agree with smithclar3nc3 100% when will the feds put an end to the welfare queens having baby after baby to get a bigger check?
Report Post »Collapsitalism
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:39pmAnd by welfare queens you mean Black women.
Report Post »PheonixDragon
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:36pmWelfare Queens aren’t limited to being Black only. They come from all races; and they are only doing the popping out of babies, so their welfare checks get bigger. I have known several Welfare Queens who aren’t black, and any one of them would be willing to have babies by this guy, just to make their checks bigger.
Report Post »Personally, I don‘t see where the FDA has any right to tell him he can’t do this, even if they are calling it a business. As to that, it could be a business, but one in which the only party that benefits, is the mother of the child. He is giving his sperm away free. She is accepting it in order to have the child.
My question would be: “How many of these women are married to a man who shoots blanks? Who’s sperm is sterile?”
cemerius
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:45amHOW DARE he in the bowels of the Unionized Socialist City of San Francisco!!!! How dare he promotoe and encourage life to be born and NOT make a profit?!?! I know we can get him with ALL that huge red tape he he he……Imagine if he was offering a different service?? Rather than sending a bucket/dixie cup he just injected in person? They could have slammed him for prostitution or practicing a medical procedure without a license? Red Tape needs to be cut cut and CUT!!
Report Post »MOLLYPITCHER
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:40amThis isn’t the way that God intended procreation to happen. With sperm donations, there is always the possibility of unintentional incest.
Report Post »MOLLYPITCHER
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:45amIt’s not the governments business though
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 4:15pmWith any kind of procreation there is the possibility of incest. But, why does this bother you so much? If two people have the same father and grow up in different households and never learn of one another until they meet in public as an adult, and then don’t find out about their relation until after they fall in love, who are you to tell them they can’t marry and have children? And I’m being entirely serious here. How many adopted siblings or cousins have you ever know who ended up marrying a person from inside the family? How is that any better? I know your response will be that because they have no blood relation it is safe, but let me remind you that there is an infinite amount of variation in every generation. Even if these two people share one parent, there is no more statistical chance that they will pass on a fatal genetic trait to their children. It is simply a falsehood that has been repeated enough times that some people think it is true.
Personally, I’d feel alot less queasy about a couple with the same father but who never met until adulthood marrying than I would about a couple who were always cousins with the caveat that one was adopted from a foreign nation. Why do people like you feel the need to stick your nose where it doesn’t belong? This man isn’t out there murdering children like the doctors at the FDA. He is helping women (and some may be married w/ impotent husbands) have children.
Report Post »katzenbacker73
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:24amThis is hilarious and innovative. As for the government, I think we just found another department that needs cutting.
Report Post »Inappropriately_Conceived
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:19amThe only issue this is about is protecting the financial interests of SPERM BANKS !
It is competition, it threatens the multi-million dollar industry who writes the rules through lobbying and special interests ! In CA. the law says (Family code 7613 b) … As long as a supervising physician does the method of insemination and known donor is not a natural parent or liable for child support. Supported by case law Steven S. v Deborah D. (CA. 2005 ? )
Report Post »Now the State may claim that children are their #1 interests, but that is a lie. As proven by the cited case the #! liberty interest in CA. is the right for women to choose to have a child or not. What a mother wants regardless of the rights of the child is what the courts rule with. The superior liberty rights of the MOTHER. So if she wants a sperm donor, warts and all…… the State can not stop her. It violates her constitutional rights. And the FDA is guilty of COLOR of LAW abuses under CA. civil code 52, and under US codes Title 18 ss 241,242 and Title 42 ss 1983 an 14141.
Rightallalong
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 9:39amWell said – and you are correct. It is becoming more and more obvious that the GIVERment’s job is to protect certain special interest organizations – be they Big Banks that provide the bribes …oops I mean campaign donations or social engineering services.
Report Post »TulsaYeeHaw
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:06amYou know, God dealing with this man in whatever way God sees fit is one thing.
HAVING SAID THAT…. He should tell the federal gov’t to go screw a monkey.
- the dumbass doctor goes “er, huh-huh, I think its good policy”
Report Post »THAT IS THE PROBLEM. PEOPLE HAVE GOT TO STOP TELLING OTHER PEOPLE HOW TO LIVE.
objectivetruth
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 2:51pmNot unless the monkey is being protected by a condom.God do you know how many the diseases the govt carries.Aids in all forms insanity stupidity exc.Why pick on the poor poor monkey.Hes throwing crap, still far more productive than anything they have done in quite some time.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:05amWhen are they going to tell welfare mothers with a pile of kids they have to stop……. They are doing it commercially (to scam the system) and most of these offspring will end up in jail or will scam the system too
Report Post »BonnieBlueFlag
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:16amThe problem is welfare, not a sperm donor. If you don’t want people on welfare then fight to end welfare, don’t use it as an excuse to violate the sovereignty and free will of others.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:54amagree………but they only go after you if you are white and male. That is my point
Report Post »BrotherWill
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:04am“A sperm bank will also isolate the actual sperm cells from the donor’s semen, which reduces the risk of passing along pathogens, Rosen said. “In this situation there’s no reduction of risk. It‘s just as if they’re going out and having a one night stand.”
I haven’t heard such Eugenics BS since the experiments at the Nazi death camps. Are we trying to create the master race now?
Report Post »Noonien_Soong
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:02amMaybe this donor, unbeknownst to him, could recreate a “Boys from Brazil” scenario whereby his progeny cause a genetic abnormality in the human population..
My mom always told me beware who you sleep with, in this case where one sows their seeds.
Report Post »An Arizonan
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:59amA child is entitled to both a mother and a father. We have arrived to the iniquity level of Sodom. Judgment day can’t be far behind.
Report Post »rabblechat
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:51amMy understanding is he does it to help folks with fertility problems. Its not like he is slipping these women a ruffie and getting them knocked up. They may very well have a husband that is sterile.
Report Post »BlackAce41
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:56amWhen is it that the government can tell us what to do with our seeds of life?
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:06amas soon as the monsanto monopoly gets in on the action
Report Post »country_hick
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:56amYou can see where this is headed…Interstate Commerce Clause, General Welfare Clause, the Federal Governments ‘duty’ to protect the (small p) people…
Take it to the Brave New World/1984 conclusion, government enforcing rules that people trying to have a kid on their own MUST obtain approval which includes being checked for whatever they deem necessary, unplanned pregnacies will be terminated, eugenics backdoored in, Sanger/Planned Parenthood vision put into manditory affect…
I know trolls…just another paranoid rant from bitter clinger country…
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:01am@country_hick
Report Post »You are more right than some might think.
objectivetruth
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 2:55pmYou are on the money and they are already on the way there.
Report Post »IIIper
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:43amThe fact that anyone thinks this is any of the government’s business shows you that we have slid a long way down that proverbial “slippery slope”.
Report Post »Jomil48
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:49amGo down to the projects, you can guys that do better then that
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:04amLet’s get this straight the progressives that allowed ,welfare mother to have 8 or 10 kids on the tax payers tab and allowed 10′s of millions of illegals in this country is now trying to stop one white guy from creating more white kids…..HMMMMM
Report Post »Dindo
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:41amHe’s a freaking nut case, nothing more.
Report Post »IIIper
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:49am@Dindo, I’ll admin that *********** in a cup is an odd way to serve the lord, but being unusual is a long way from being illegal. I hope people don‘t get the idea that it’s acceptable to sick the government on anyone that they think is wierd. I hope you or I don’t do anything that someone else might someday think is wierd.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:40amWell I guess if the FDA can require people to get tested for sexually transmitted diseases within seven days before giving sperm. Will the FDA be able to do the same for everyone that has sex? Maybe that will be the the best way to reduce the number of people on welfare going foreward –Just a thought….
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:23amAnd how many of his offspring will end up on welfare ???
Report Post »BrotherWill
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:06amZero. He’s white.
Report Post »BonnieBlueFlag
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:21amThis is absolutely none of Big Brother’s effing business. When exactly did this become the USSA?
Report Post »collectorbob810
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 2:07pm2008 nov.
Report Post »objectivetruth
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 2:58pmActually when it comes to kids 1974.They passed CAPTA,right after a meeting with jordon on the state of childrens affairs.Think the mid east isn’t running the show by fiat ,think again.
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:21am“This is not a business or a clinic. It’s just people partnering up to have a baby out of compassion,” he said.
As an added bonus, he just gets o ff on the whole thing. ;)
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