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MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell ‘You and I Are Both White’ We Don’t Get This Whole Getting Offended Thing Like Muslims Do

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  • scr_north
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:19pm

    Why does this moron still have a show? This isn’t about race, it’s about ideology (or theocracy I suppose). There are a lot of white radical muslims that are just as worrying as the brown radical muslims, the yellow radical muslims, the black radical muslims etc. In fact, I would say that radical Islam (or for that matter Islam in general) is not racially specific at all.
    God, she’s stupid, I mean really, really dumb as a sack of hammers stupid. I’d love to see Sarah Palin in an interview (only the unedited video allowed to be shown) with her. You know that Andrea will try to make Palin look bad and Palin would respond by reducing this ditz to a blubbering pile of liberal opinion.

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  • hannahh
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:19pm

    Put a Burka on her so she doesn’t offend me!

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  • DeathsHead
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:19pm

    No, we as whites have to be super sensitive to other nationalities. Any form of white pride is construed as prejudice. Thats why there is no European American history month, no National Assoc. For The Advancement Of White People, no United White College Fund, etc

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    • patjr1124
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:54pm

      White History month, the Advancement of White People, White College fund….these all contribute to the problem and doesn’t solve a thing, IMO. The Tea Party is about the individual. Judge a man by the content of his character and not by the color of his skin. If you can’s afford to go to Duke University, go to County college until you have the money. White or black. Just go and learn about American History, economics, medicine, whatever. Waiting for, and demanding that some one else pay for you is a complete waste of time.

      Education….until the priciples of the individual rights are taught in our schools, there is no hope for freedom.

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    • DeathsHead
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 9:28pm

      @Pat–I totally agree. Respect is earned not given. But we live in a society where people want to cast blame on others for their lack of ambition. I was generalizing by the way

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    • thepatriotdave
      Posted on March 11, 2011 at 2:37am

      Look, I really don’t care about my skin color or yours, but I do get pretty damned mad if someone questions my Patriotism. I am an American and darn proud of it. Period. End of story.

      http://tinyurl.com/4rv8xsm

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  • the frog
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:18pm

    she should be fired for this,

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  • Maggie in Indiana
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:18pm

    How understanding she is of minorities even though she’s white. isn’t she tolerent and blind as bat and deaf as a post.

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  • vennoye
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:17pm

    Good for the Congressman!! I am so glad that he did not let her intimidate him by throwing the race card at him. All of the problems we have in our country right now cannot be viewed only through the prism of race……race is not the root problem. Differences in ideals and values are big divides.

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    • lcam67
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:36pm

      well said, she could not reply to ” what does that mean “? by the rep. just the same ,call everybody a racist and that makes me right.. no andrea it does not

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    • NOBALONEY
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:49pm

      Right on VENNOYE. Stoning is one example. Sharia law stones women buried up to their head, and men buried up to their waist. Jesus said, let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

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    • ablisterin
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 4:29pm

      Values and morals are the problem. Most of the values morals I hear spewing from liberal mouths are perverted beyond belief. How many of the 10 Commandments are held dear in our society today? I can only find1 & I’m worried that it soon may be thrown out the window.

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  • twotwins
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:16pm

    The h______l we don’t get offended Andrea!!!! Liberals are constantly putting down my “white” ancestors – putting down my “white” grandmother, grandfather, mother, father – everybody. I was just in the company of a white liberal yesterday who blathered on and on and on and on about how wonderful Holland is – (where she has dual citzenship) – and then out comes the “ugly American” crap.
    Okay so a lot of “my people” have never been to Europe – and don’t realize that tuna fish sandwiches aren’t poplular over there – but what does this liberal do???? She calls this American an “ugly” American! I practically told her to just stay in Holland if it’s so great – and please don’t come back. Ingrates! Ingrates! Ingrates!

    I saw a freedom fighter in Egypt crying out – “give me liberty – or give me death”. For all you simple minded liberals out there – that is what it is all about.

    The WORLD wants Freedom – based on what the American Founding Fathers started – they watch – they see- they listen around the world. NO MORE RUTHLESS DICTATORS FOR THEM – THEY ARE TIRED OF THE POTENTATES!

    AND LOOK WHAT FACEBOOK HAS DONE FOR THE WORLD. THE WINKLEVOSS TWINS AND PHILO FARNSWORTH CHANGED THE WORLD! LOOK IT UP!!!

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  • code green
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:15pm

    It is best Andrea, to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and prove it

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  • mcFirst
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:15pm

    can the press really handle complex subjects – i don’t think they can.

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  • Nigel2
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:14pm

    Nonsense, I am offended every day by clueless brainless liberals.

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  • Mack truck
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:14pm

    Jessie Jackson ment to say “Funky Town” not “Himme town”.

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  • nappy
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:14pm

    ok. now muslims are a different race.

    My God. This woman is the perfect example of stupid. White get a LOT OF THINGS you idiot. For one thing we GET that you are an airhead.

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  • Helldogger
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:12pm

    What does skin color have to do with being Muslim?

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  • Weusedtokillcommies
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:12pm

    The other party was in the super majority for a while. If they were so damn concerned about the feelings of Muslims, they could have held hearings about their feelings all this time. For me, I will try to get into their heads….115 grains at a time.

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  • djohn78
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:12pm

    What are the odds of Andrea not getting something?

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  • JP4JOY
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:12pm

    More racial divisiveness brought to you by our MSM affiliates. So very sad, extremely dangerous behavior.

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  • Redwine
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:12pm

    Mitchell is extremely ignorant. Islam isn’t a race and Muslims are not all non-white. In fact, the majority of Middle East Muslims are actually white, not to mention Balkan and former USSR Muslims (Uzbekistan, etc.) who are also white.

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  • inexiletill2012
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:11pm

    ’You and I Are Both White‘ We Don’t Get This Whole Getting Offended Thing Like Blacks Do
    ’You and I Are Both White‘ We Don’t Get This Whole Getting Offended Thing Like Lesbians Do
    ’You and I Are Both White‘ We Don’t Get This Whole Getting Offended Thing Like RedHeads Do
    ’You and I Are Both White‘ We Don’t Get This Whole Getting Offended Thing Like Orientals Do
    ’You and I Are Both White‘ We Don’t Get This Whole Getting Offended Thing Like Mexicans Do
    …….
    (15 years from now)…..’You and I Are Both Muslam We Don’t Get This Whole Getting Offended Thing Like Americans Do

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    • mike1119
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:18pm

      irish oppression in 19 century. O SORRY that dont count.to white

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    • southerngal
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 3:00pm

      wheeee! thats a hoot. Sarcasm with a twist. Along the lines of when they came for the …….. I said nothing.

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    • Juan Gault
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 3:20pm

      15 years from now, are you kidding me? The time is now,the hour fast approaches. Prepare for the worse, PRAY for the best . Jes saying

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  • Lesterp
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:11pm

    Dumb as a hat full of crap!

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  • presley311
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:11pm

    If you don’t have an honest talks in this country about people out to kill americans.. Then we will all be ghost white when we all die. Grow up MSNBC…

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  • APatriotFirst
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:11pm

    Andrea Mitchell is brainless. Enough said.

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    Truth Wins Every Time  
    • the frog
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:18pm

      i agree

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    • Cowgirl
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 3:11pm

      Nah! She has a brain. She just chooses to misapply it.

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      SpunkyGal  
    • marine249
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 3:42pm

      Nan! she has a brain? she just sitting on it

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    • Cowgirl
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 6:42pm

      You’re right Marine. I have no clue what she’s actually doing with her brain, I just know she isn’t using it. But working with people who actually are mentally impaired, I know she has a brain in there somewhere. She’s just done the worst thing possible – and that’s misusing it. Better to be without one than misapply it.

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    • Toastery
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 6:51pm

      The educated elite can know, without a doubt, everything about anything else and instantly become as brain-fogged as a deer in the headlights when it comes to those of a different color! Hey, Andrea! Here’s a clue: we’re all human! Is that so tough?

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  • Richardthefirst
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:10pm

    She is a clueless moron with a microphone. Shut up Andrea while you still have a shred of decency left to call your own.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:09pm

    So, I guess at least Chechen muslims won’t be offended by the hearings? Andrea, Andrea, Andrea….

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 3:02pm

      Well technically, just like Albanians and people in Bosnia, they simply don’t get why they’re offended, even when they get offended. No, really. You can go to Albania on any given day and you’ll see Albanians running around through the streets with pitch forks screaming “Death to…somebody..I don’t know who! Or why!”.

      Happens *all the time*.

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  • RightPolitically
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:08pm

    Oh shut up Andrea. Your head and that of your husband would be two of the first lopped off by these Islamo-fascist miscreants it they had the chance. YOU ARE A FOOLISH WOMAN!

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    • REETZBEE
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 3:19pm

      I wonder how quick she’d make that comment if one of her family members got murdered by a radical Muslim. How loud do we have to scream “we don’t think all Muslims are bad, just the radicals that commit jihad.” If the KKK were blowing up people yelling Allah Akbar I would hope we’d have hearings on that hate group too.

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    • Lucy Larue
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 4:04pm

      RIGHTPOLITICALLY,
      Amen! Amen!
      I never before knew that MUSLIM was a color. Yikes..,is CATHOLIC a color? What about, Mormon,Methodist and Presbyterian? Baptist?
      Cheezus! The marketers at Crayola have a vast new frontier thanks to the wee brained Andrea.

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    • butler180
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 4:12pm

      ?? is she inferring the Muslims are Black or some other color??

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:06pm

    Can anyone say “Bigotry and Prejudice” along with “Terminally clueless’ as is standard for anything dealing with MSNBC?

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    • CatB
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:11pm

      lol .. PMSNBC .. never ceases to amuse. They are clueless even when they are clueless.

      CatB  
    • TexasCommonSense
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:13pm

      KKK, started by Democrats. Japanese-American internment during WWII, by a Democratic President.

      I’m white, too, and I’m offended by being called racist because I support the TEA Party. Taxed Enough Already has nothing to do with race.

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    • sleazyhippo
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:16pm

      Ha Ha Ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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      MONICNE  
    • herculesmom
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:17pm

      Does MSNBC have anyone over there thats not an idiot?

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      herculesmom  
    • Bigliardi
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:18pm

      Their typical “head in the sand” attitude…..Progressives are baffling entities….I think they are simply scared of most things….

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    • cessna152
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:18pm

      Not only are you white, you’re stupid and delusional.

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    • lovenfl3
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:21pm

      They always have to make everything about race and the KKK. Funny that they never mention that the KKK was started by the Democrats to intimidate conservatives in the south. Ever heard of Robert Byrd?

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    • michael48
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:23pm

      Soros must be paying these insects with Cali-Muni-Bonds or IOU’s…..how DUMB do you have to be to work at ANYTHING NBC????????

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:24pm

      @TexasCommonSense

      Yeah, but are you white? If so, it just follows that you’re racist.

      It’s like peas and carrots, peanut butter and jelly, hamburger and french fries, white and racist.

      Saying a non-white is racist is like the MSNBC schlub the other day said when he refused to read his own stat when making his point that all hate groups in America are Christian, White, and one the Right: “that just doesn’t make any sense.”

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    • absolutely
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:26pm

      If there is really such a thing as a Moderate Muslim and I hope there is, they are probably rejoicing that we are having a look into the Radical problem. Without our support, they would be all alone and unable to do anything without repercussions from the Radical elements. By the way was anyone else able to watch S Jackson Lee make a complete ass of herself. She is so good at it. Why are the Dems so afraid of the Muslims? I am so sick of their ignorant responses to everything, they just all repeat the party line, kind of like the union stooges, they all sound the same. Makes it sound like they are all bought and paid for, doesn’t it? Absolutely

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    • Chrono_Sleuth
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:26pm

      Here’s what I don’t get about Liberal thinking. Ok, so the idea is that we should care about how Muslim Americans feel correct? Fair point, it makes them feel uncomfortable, so where does one go from there?

      If you don’t continue to talk about it, open up the dialogue, continue the conversation, it only pushes the issue further into the shadows, further creating tension, further creating a separation. In this case, such a separation helps to foment the most adverse and perverse people, those who wish to train the “useful idiots” (Lenin may have stated it, but history proves this is a common thread of thought amongst those with truly despicably evil agendas).

      Rather they want it driven underground. It’s why we had internment camps in the US, it’s why slavery lasted so long and why the KKK was allowed to form. The more information is put into the open, the more the dialogue is put into the open, the more light is shed on it, and the harder it is to hide from that reality. Not that it will always work this way, but it is the only way to make it work.

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    • Red Meat
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:27pm

      Why does the Blaze, as well as other conservative blogs, insist on reporting on things the state-run-media broadcasts? No one with a brain cell cares what they have to say.

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    • Showtime
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:35pm

      @Texas Common Sense ~

      –unless you’re talking about the race to the finish line in 2012!

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    • jmmjr49er
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:36pm

      Amen. I am amazed when I read and hear statements by liberals and say it is not possible for them to be any dumber, then they prove it.

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    • leftiesaredangerous
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:37pm

      As a white person, I’m offended by this racist comment.
      As an intelligent person, I’m offended by this racist comment.
      As an Earthling, I’m offended by this racist comment.

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    • ishka4me
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:46pm

      muslims are peaceful, move along, nothing to see here.. typical leftist attack, accuse the patriots of racism. very old , not to be taken seriously anymore, remember the boy who cried wolf?. the bad thing is the cry of racism is so often now, that real crimes of racism are ignored.

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    • TexasCommonSense
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:48pm

      Showtime, that can’t get here soon enough. Either Obama will be gone, or he’ll have a second term with no chance of being re-elected and will do even more damage to our country.

      I’m not really a tin hat kind of guy, but isn’t it interesting about the 12/21/2012 prophecy? It falls during what will hopefully be Obama’s lame-duck session after he’s been voted out, but before he leaves office, and still wields the full power of the Executive branch.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:51pm

      Albanians aren’t white? The rather sizable Muslim population in the former Yugoslavia, are not white?

      What does a religion have to do with skin color?

      I mean, for real, really? Really really?

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    • Cowgirl
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 2:55pm

      Ugh! Seriously? I’m not handing out pity to any group just because they’re thin-skinned! Nor does the color of my skin reveal the content of my character. Just because I’m white doesn’t mean I’m racist!

      @TexasCommonSense: I really love reading your posts. You’re great.

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      SpunkyGal  
    • Miami
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 3:00pm

      MSNbc,

      Is a punchline

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      Miami  
    • Lincoln1
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 3:04pm

      herculesmom….as of this time the answer to your inquiry is ABSOLUTLY NOT

      It is true that MSNBC does not require any form of aptitude testing or knowledge skills….they just wing it

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    • Gold Coin & Economic News
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 3:05pm

      @CATB “They are clueless even when they are clueless.”

      Nice!

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    • thepatriotdave
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 3:39pm

      Andrea, if you want to feel how it might be, try being a Christian!!!

      What a stupid woman!

      http://www.americasteapartynews.com

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    • watchtheotherhand
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 3:44pm

      Could Andrea be any more transparent in her leading questions and non-verbal elitist attitude that seems to flow from her every pore as she tries to make completely baseless and ignorant points? She is a wonderful tool to expose liberal “intelligence”. She is the female version of Joe Biden.

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    • drbage
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 4:34pm

      Just when you think that it cannot get any worse, they double down and, not to insult the playwrights, they make the Theater of the Absurd look realistic. I’d like to pull a prog move and change the meaning of a couple of popular acronyms today: SEIU means “show everyone into unions” and MSNBC stands for “mindless simpering, never be credible.”

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    • Phantom2487
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 4:40pm

      How exactly is race tied to any religion, huh? Secondly how can you be a ‘Muslim American’ is there a country called Muslim? Thirdly, no matter what-American you consider yourself, your American, no something-American…

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    • avenger
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 5:49pm

      hey andrea…you must be one of the lib useful fools.I could give a rats azs what the muslims think… here is an update http://thereligionofpeace.com

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    • dawg of gawd
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 8:39pm

      You know how many Fox viewers are black? 1.3%. Median age? 65. Hence the ratings . . . Fox viewers have NOTHING else to do. I think it’s safe to assume the demographics here at The Blaze are similar. So, just how informed are you to comment on the nature of contemporary culture where minorities or youth or technology or communication or politics or economics or race relations are concerned?

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    • MOVETERAN
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 9:16pm

      Can someone give her a big steaming cup of SHUT THE HE!! UP???????

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    • CultureWarriors
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 10:13pm

      Um, what does “white” have to do with being Muslim? Certainly in the running for the dumbest statement ever. She should have said, we grew up in civilized country where people are free to pursue their dreams, we don’t get this thing about subjugating and torturing women, stoning gay people and beheading those who don’t belong to our cult.

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    • watchtheotherhand
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 11:06pm

      @ DIP OF STICK………………(aka DAWG) self aggrandizing by abasing others as a simple insecure school yard bully might do doesn’t really make you smarter. You know this right? In fact, you have revealed that you really aren’t intelligent enough to enter a discussion in the arena of ideas. Like a simple caveman that says “uuggghhhh” your response was predictably primitive and instinctual. So I submit a similar philosophical question to you that you posed, how is it you find that you are qualified to comment on things that matter to civil human beings?

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    • restorehope
      Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:12am

      Yet another example of MSNBC inserting foot in mouth. Every MSNBC reporter (and I use that term lightly) should wear some type of filter over their mouths. Said filter would trap all the inaccurate, ridiculous, and unfortunate things that seem to fly out of there.

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    • Jackers
      Posted on March 11, 2011 at 6:58am

      Does this woman have any clue what she’s talking about? What on earth does “white” have to do with anything? I’d rather our political representatives discuss and determine ways to prevent Muslim Radicalization, than suffer yet another Muslim terrorist attack…

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on March 11, 2011 at 8:52am

      @dawg of gawd

      “You know how many Fox viewers are black? 1.3%. Median age? 65.”

      Show me where you got those numbers please.

      “Hence the ratings . . . ”

      That’s a non-sequitur. The evidence has nothing to do with the conclusion you made.

      “I think it’s safe to assume the demographics here at The Blaze are similar.”

      Based on what, your own prejudices? Lots (not all but lots) of people I see state ages here are GenX, who are famous for NOT being 65 and older.

      “So, just how informed are you to comment on the nature of contemporary culture where minorities or youth or technology or communication or politics or economics or race relations are concerned?”

      As informed and qualified as any other human being with a functioning mind and reasoning ability. Understanding does not depend on skin color, and assume such is to embrace one of the most vile tenants of racism to be found.

      43 here, btw. Thanks for playing.

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    • kreese
      Posted on March 11, 2011 at 9:07am

      Herculesmon:

      No!

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    • TakeOurCountryBack
      Posted on March 11, 2011 at 10:08am

      Hey Mrs. Greenspan,

      In case you haven’t figured it out, Muslim in not a race…it is a religion. It sounds pretty racist to say that someone can’t understand a religion because of their race. I guess Bigotry has replaced Broadcasting in the MSNBC initials.

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    • patriot308
      Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:44am

      HEY! I resent that remark, I’m not white…I’m pinkish beige, or light cocoa brown in summer. Someone better tell my blonde haired, Bosnian, muslim mechanic. Andrea, you are such a tool (fool)!

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