Students Sue High School That Banned Christian Club
Students at New York’s Hicksville High School were prevented from starting a Christian club by the school principal who allegedly said, “I don’t want any of these Christian clubs at my school.”
Via Fox Nation:
A federal lawsuit has been filed on behalf of a group of Christian high school students in New York who said their principal banned them from starting a Christian club.
“The principal said, ‘I don’t want any of these Christian clubs at my school,’” said David Cortman, an attorney with the Alliance Defense Fund, a conservative advocacy legal group. The ADF filed the lawsuit Monday against the Hicksville Union Free School District in Central Islip, NY.
“Public schools cannot ban Christian student clubs simply because they are religious,” Cortman said. “If officials at government-run schools did their homework, they’d know that students have a constitutionally protected right to express their beliefs.”
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kickagrandma
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:18amTo those who think it’s “ok” / fair to have a transgender, “gay”/lesbian club in high school, I have this information for you.
AMERICA is a CHRISTIAN nation. We follow GOD ALMIGHTY, MAKER OF HEAVEN AND EARTH. HE tells us that homosexual behavior is an abomination to HIM. HE tells HIS kids to stay far away from that sort of behavior as it is a perversion to HIS plan for us.
By being GOD loving and GOD fearing (respecting) people, we cannot allow what HE hates in our lives, in our schools, in our society. We have, and that is why we are in the mess we are in.
If we follow HIM, there is room for HIM and none other.
Perversion is a demeaning god. It destroys all who embrace it.
It is time to call it what it is and to uncover the lie that it is “ok”. It is not. Not now. Not ever.
CHRISTIANS are standing up for the GOD we serve and follow. HE will do a mighty work because HIS kids are no longer denying HIM, the love of our lives and our entire reason for being.
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Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:31amAmerica may have been founded on Judeo-Christian VALUES, but it was not founded on any specific RELIGION. Your practice of religion in no way impugns anyone else’s rights. Rights are one of the few things that if you want to enjoy them yourselves, you have to give them to others too.
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Wes
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 3:12pmThank you so much!! People like you make my day so much better!! Freedom of religion should be practiced in public schools- if someone wants to start a Christian Club, they should be allowed. If a principal doesn’t let them do that because he doesn’t “want any of [those] Christian clubs” at his school, he is basically violating their freedom of religion. Things like this just make me want to hurl.
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christos
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:17amOur Country was founded on Judeo+Christian values,suggestion Mr. principle—you find another Country that better serves your ideals,as for the name of you school it is fitting for your attitude,might add your attitude will be the least of your worries on Judgement,of day unless you change course,leave the kids alone,& quit hindering them you should be encouraging,them,& attending yourself.Bless You
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hobbitfellow
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:13amThe club should get Jay Sekulow and the ACLJ on board; they argue religious liberty cases, including several before the Supreme Court, and they rarely lose. I know they’ve argued cases like this one before with great success. This principal has no legal grounds upon which to stand.
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capitalismrocks
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:13amExcellent, this is just the kind of thing ALL Christians need to do more and more, turn the tables…. how many lawsuits have bankrupted Christian churches and schools into closure, turn the tide and reverse their tactics and do it back against them…. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” Teach your kids well, everyone sit down with your children and explain to them during a casual conversation that they may one day here something about Separation of Church and State. Explain that there is no such law, but there is the law above and it protects you and your children from any government agency from blocking or prohibiting your free exercise of religion, this goes for Christian clubs in school, to Christmas tree’s in a town square to having a moment of silence in school or even to sing outloud “God Bless America” — No one in government can stop you…. these are your rights, fight for them with every fiber of your soul…
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Darla_K
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:11amI wonder what club this principal belongs to. Good luck with the Christian Club high schoolers. :)
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snidley-whiplash
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:03pmThis is what we can do…………….http://www.hicksvillepublicschools.org/schools/hs.html
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NC
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:01amsome more info @ http://www.onenewsnow.com/Legal/Default.aspx?id=1340948
…”But according to the Alliance Defense Fund (ADF), the Christian legal alliance representing the students, the principal would not allow any religious clubs to be recognized, despite the fact that 12 other schools in the county already had Christian clubs.
After receiving further pressure, the principal finally admitted that the real reason was limited finances. But ADF attorney David Cortman does not buy that excuse.
David Cortman (Alliance Defense Fund)”It’s simply ridiculous in this case that Hicksville High School says it has no budget for a Christian club but somehow has enough to pay for 35 clubs, including a ping pong club,” he notes….”
NC (doing a Glenn Beck and my own research)
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Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:07amObligations under the law do not know from financial need. Even if the school plead poverty, they would still be legally obligated to allow the club to form and meet on campus.
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capitalismrocks
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:16amHe doesn’t have a choice, as a public (aka government) school, he has to abide by the first amendment “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”
He cannot bar the free exercise thereof….
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Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:58am*facepalm*
When will principals ever learn?
But, you know, simply refusing to allow a club to form is ALMOST as bad as disbanding clubs to prevent a club from having equal access to school facilities.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/28/951100/-Texas-School-District-Bans-Christian-Club-to-Stop-%E2%80%9CGay-Club%E2%80%9D
The principal of the Flour Bluff Independent School District in Corpus Christi, TX banned all non-curricular clubs at the district’s high school, including the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, earlier this year to prevent the school from having to approve a Gay-Straight Alliance (GSA), to be called the Tolerance Club, as they would be required to under the Equal Access Act.
How’s that for a kick in the crotch? It doesn’t feel good when it happens to your own, but I’m sure plenty here have no problem with banning GSAs as long as it doesn’t catch up Christian clubs in the collateral damage.
Needless to say, if the Hicksville *snicker* High School allows any other non-curricular clubs at all on campus, the Christian Club is guaranteed access under the Equal Access Act, just like the Tolerance Club is guaranteed access to the Flour Bluff High School. But I see no reason to believe that the principal’s name, being Hindi in origin, should be evidence of motive here.
Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere.
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teachermitch32
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 11:15amThe principal’s name was Brijinder Singh. He is most likely, although I am not sure, Sikh in his faith. Either way, it is most likely a religious prejudiced decision on his part.
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MacWell
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:08pmOk LPHP, we get it, you’re gay, all I can say is, So what? Look my friend, personally? I don’t care who or what you consider “life partner’ material, but, who or whatever you choose, I fully support your right to that choice. I don’t think many people here really care who you share your life with, that’s your decision. If you care to have a conversation about the effect of your (cause), so-called equal rights, then fine.
My questions to you are,
# 1 “why do you think your chosen nick here helps society to accept your lifestyle and make life more pleasant?”
#2 “Do you think Hitler was really a Nazi?
lol
My point is that we the people don’t have much time left. Next years election will be the most important in our history.
Will America remain “the land of the free and the home of the brave?
or
Will we become just another socialist nightmare?
ONLY “We the People” can decide!
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thermonator
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:57amLets be clear. The left doesn’t want tolerance or freedom for everyone. When enough people finely realize that leftism is the religion of the left will we be able to find an antidote for this disease.
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bible quotin' science fearin' conservative american
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:05amCrystal………..
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Jim in Houston
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:14pm357 magnum?
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Jenny Lind
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:52amyou all know this is going to get worse before it get’s better; Glad there is one group of good guys to take up these causes, and once in a blue moon the aclu does something right. The kids are taking a stand-and they know who they are! GOOD FOR THEM!
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WVBeagleMom
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:43amGod Bless them in their fight against progressives.
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boiz
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:34amNew flash for the principal. The school belongs to the tax payers! You didn’t build it, pay for it, buy it, etc. It’s NOT yours!
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Jim in Houston
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:13pmBut he/she/it is doing their best to destroy it.
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awakeningiscoming
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:29amACLJ= American Center for Law and Justice… for all you out there who do not know =)
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Kazooskibum
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:27am“The principal said, ‘I don’t want any of these Christian clubs at my school,’”
Hey buddy, it’s not your school !
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trooper
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:26amGood for them! I wonder if the ACLU will bet involved and try to sue the students for standing up for them selves. I bet it would be welcomed if muslimes staredt up a muslime club though, hu?
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bible quotin' science fearin' conservative american
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:37amI get they won’t bet involved…
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awakeningiscoming
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:24amYup… Pres Clinton took that protection to the next level. In a nutshell, if a school issues a rule or tells a club they cannot (or can) do one thing or another, that same “rule” or “privilege” has to be extended to all clubs on campus.
When I was in high school, I was deeply involved in Christ on Campus. Our major goal was school service projects. For Christmas, we passed out candy canes for every single student and put them on every single desk during homeroom. We made a video for the morning school news, as so many other clubs do, to explain the candy canes were from us, to say Merry Christmas, and read Isaiah 9:6 (only the “unto us a child is born, a son is given..” and that’s it. That’s all.
Well, ONE teacher, the most liberal teacher in the school, complained to the teachers’ union. She was upset that we said the word Christ (in our name) on TV and that we read scripture. This is what they were accusing us of, LEGALLY. “Reading scripture to a captive audience.”
They were filing to make sure our club ceased to exist.
When they found out the principal was 100% behind us, they decided they would only file to have our “Terrier news” privileges away. We would never again be allowed to have access to running ads or announcements on the tv.
Our Christ on Campus teacher sponsor contacted the ACLJ. The school was prepared to cut all access to terrier news for ALL CAMPUS CLUBS (because of that law). The teacher’s union dropped the suit. =D
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bible quotin' science fearin' conservative american
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:35amWOW !! you must be proud…
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bry
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:06amAnd what have you done lately to make this world a better place? Aside from posting witless comments here?
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bible quotin' science fearin' conservative american
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:14am@bry.. I did 100 push ups this morning :~) … Pipe down.. You think my first post was witless ? Then there really IS something wrong with you, because it’s a post on your side … Dope.
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JustPeachy
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 1:09pm@Bible. He should be proud! Standing up for our rights in America is a good thing.
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langushire
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:21amFinally, a group to defend good, Alliance Defence Fund, against evil, Anti Christ Lawyers Union (ACLU). Stupid Principal!
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AU Patriot
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:20amGreat News! We need to add this case to our prayers.
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Marylou7
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:32amAlready started.
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florida123
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:18amWhen are the taxpayers going to get tired of paying off these lawsuits brought on by their Employees aka Gov’t Workers? We need to call these Gov’t workers and elected officials on the carpet big time when they choose to violate a citizens Constitutional Rights, and it cost us out the nose!!!!! Wake Up America!
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bible quotin' science fearin' conservative american
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:32amyou start it off I’ll meet you in the middle…
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338lapua
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:17amWhat would Eric Cartman do?
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Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:04amShout, “Respect Mah Authoritaaaahhhh!”?
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commonsenseguy
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:12amwhen it comes to defending Christians, the a c l u is no where in site, but muslims,and the destruction o f our flag and country they are all front and center. thank you “”ALLIANCE DEFENSE FUND,”"”‘ peopel this is who we should be helping, groups who still believe in the traditional values, of god and country.
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bible quotin' science fearin' conservative american
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:23amWas thinking the same thing about the ACLU….
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Jim in Houston
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:08pmYou mean the All Communist Lunatics Union, that ACLU?
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Nepenthe
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 2:18pmI was thinking of the same thing, then I remembered that the “ACLU doesn’t help Christians” was already easily debunked.
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Bhaub
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:08pmExcept the ACLU wouldn’t have a case here, since it’s an obvious matter of separation of church and state. The ACLU would fully support a free speech case or a right to assemble, as they have done many, many times for Christians. But you’d have to look that up and use facts, and that’s soooo hard, isn’t it? :(
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59 Fender Pro
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 11:27pmI am grateful that the ADF took the case. On a more personal note, Bhaub, why don’t you go get yourself a muhamed icon and go spew your liberal ideals over at http://www.sharia4america.com ? I typically tolerate the trolls, but your icon is offensive, and considering your posts, I am concerned that you do not know the man in the picture you post.
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Bhaub
Posted on May 7, 2011 at 10:57pmWhy is my icon offensive? It’s a smiling Jesus beside a cross.
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kickagrandma
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:09amYou go, kids! Proud of you for your stand. GOD is, too.
Remember that the world will hate us because we follow HIM. You are in good company. Hold fast to HIM. HE needs youto love and to obey HIM. Not many do these days. You are among HIS chosen. HE will be faithful to you through all you are enduring in HIS name.
GOD BLESS AND PROTECT IN JESUS’ PRECIOUS NAME, AMEN.
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Nobamazone
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:21amAmen Grandma, we all need to be praying for these brave kids!
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theye
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:08amYa gotta watch those christians! all that prayin and hoping for good! real troublemakers!
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Marylou7
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:08amWhere do they come up with all these progressive principals and teachers??
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streetrodder
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:20amTeachers union.
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Itchee Dryback
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:50amProgressive colleges, and on line courses.
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true2myword
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 9:18amIt’s a very selective club. You have to be a liberal (or at least pretend to be) to get a job teaching. Therefore, almost all teachers are liberal.
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jackeric61
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 10:48amDid anyone notice that since this was not a progressive ideal the students used the legal route instead of chaining themselves to the desks and chanting. Nice to see a civil response to a dictorial principal.
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Bhaub
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:07pmColleges. Conservatives can’t make it to that educational level.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Grasshopper42
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:08amIf history repeats itself, the school will loose.
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StevenL1955
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:05amAnd people wonder why our society is falling apart?
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RepubliCorp
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:12amPrincipal – Brijinder Singh: <<<<< understand NOW!!!!! We have a hate crime
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commonsenseguy
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:16amrepubliccorp,we have hate crimes,to bad Eric holder will not prosecute his own people, { communist anti American } but he will prosecute any conservative that has gotten out of line with the communist agenda, we need more to stand up, it well be bad at first, but it will get better and better,when the forces join and become one.
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ISeeDanger.com
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:16amI read this story on CNN…
Just kidding…
http://Emergency-Foods.org
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bible quotin' science fearin' conservative american
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:21amyes, muslim club ? by all means, but those nasty evil violent Christians to start a club ?.. NO WAY !!! not in my school they don’t..
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RepubliCorp
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:21amCOMMONSENSEGUY you are right….
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grandmaof5
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:29amOfficials at government run schoos have a government education so what else would we expect from them; that, and the fact that they aren’t smart enough to know the law, which I doubt. The principal was just trying to intimidate these students and, good for them, they fought back. Too bad they can’t sue the principal personally and set up a fund for a good Christian college education.
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cassandra
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:36amit would be OK if it was a coummunist club
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WestOfThePecos
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:38amI thought it was a public school. What part of ‘my school’ does this principle mean? Is this some new collective ownership?
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southerngal
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:54amthe correct pronuskiation is “those’ Christian clubs”
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sissykatz
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:55amI will pray that they get to have and keep their club. It amazes me that when it comes to Christianity the people think they can just run over us. Why not? We have sat down so long we have “Lost” our rights.Things
are going to be different now that “WE THE PEOPLE” have awaken. We shall take back our rights and stop letting one person change the traditions we grew up with. It is for sure the kids out there today need all
the help they can get.
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Obama Bin Lying
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:27amBut yet if it was the Young Bin Ladens club, he would be ok with it…..
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j_man
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:35amI’m going to donate to the ADF.
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Stoic one
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:44amFINE
NO Christian club, THEN:
None of the FOLLOWING
muslim, jewish, gay and *****, afro-American, (fill-in-the-blank)ethnic-American, environment, communist, ANY SOCIAL OR RELIGIOUS CLUB
Reading, Writing,and Arithmetic ONLY
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southerngal
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:48amWhen I was in school the Catholic nuns came to the public school on Wednesdays for religious ed. The rest of us just went to a study hall. It really was a sort of cultural experience. We knew who the catholics were and they knew the rest of us were not. We had sunday school before church on sundays. It was respectful and no one made a big deal out of it.
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hillbillyinny
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 9:22amInteresting re. the principal, @repulicorp, isn’t it!
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mikem1969
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 10:16amOnce again, a hate crime against christians. Sue their pants off.
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independentvoteril
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 11:53amGOOD for the KIDS standing up.. I AM PROUD of them and their conviction.. IT’S about time..
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banjarmon
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:28pmYou go kids… carry the Cross High and Be proud!!
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obamanation
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 2:10pmTeachers are dumb. That’s why they teach it instead of actually doing it.
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Polwatcher
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 3:52pmWhat you wanna bet that they allow a Muslim club.
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Mustangrider
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 9:02pmapparently the principle thinks he paid for the school himself instead of the taxpayers, of which Christians are part.
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papapatriot
Posted on May 8, 2011 at 1:19pmFor too long we Christians have sat back and allowed the secular progressives to make the laws pertaining to religion. We must become relgious zealots. Not to foist our religion on others but to defend it against those who choose to destroy it. The many hours that I have spent reading the Constitution I have yet to find “seperation of church and state”. Our Constitution gives us the right to freedom of religion not freedom from religion. This all started when we allowed the SCOTUS to remove prayer from our schools. Since then there has been a constant erosion by secular progressives to remove all vestiges of religion (Christianity) from our lives. Without God our inalienable rights disappear, no God, no rights. Heed and adhere to the words of Thomas Paine “It is the duty of every Patriot to protect his country from its Government”. God Bless America.
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