This is quite a story. A man charged with unlawfully shooting and killing a grizzly bear in defense of his family, garnered so many supporters at his arraignment in U.S. District Court Tuesday that the judge had to move the hearing to a larger courtroom.
Even in the larger space, however, every seat was reportedly occupied as the man’s family, friends and neighbors vied for a place to show their support.
Jeremy M. Hill, 33, pleaded not guilty to killing the grizzly with a rifle on his 20-acre property near Porthill, Idaho, at the Canadian border.
Because the Endangered Species Act classifies the grizzly as a threatened species, Hill was charged with a misdemeanor.
The trial has been set for October 4 and Hill’s lawyer, Marc Lyons, said he plans to defend Hill on the basis of self-defense and protection of family.
Jeremy Hill’s father, Mike Hill, said his son was concerned for the safety of his children who were playing outside when the mother grizzly and her two cubs happened onto his property in May.
Hill has six children ranging in age from 14 years old to 10 months old and at least five were reportedly home when the grizzly appeared and was later killed.
CDAPress adds:
The bears had gone after some pigs in a pen that the kids had been raising, Mike Hill said.
He said his son shot one of the bears, then called authorities to notify them of the kill. The other two bears ran off.
He said his son could have just buried the animal and not said anything to law enforcement. He said his son is being penalized for coming forward.
“The charges are simply unjust,” State Sen. Shawn Keough (R-Sandpoint), who attended the heargin, told the CDAPress. “Hopefully common sense will prevail. It’s clearly an issue of protecting the family.”
According to her, the community has raised nearly $20,000 for Hill’s defense.
“Clearly, we have a problem with the ESA [Endangered Species Act] when situations like this happen.” Rep. Raul Labrador (R-Idaho) added. “We’re doing everything we can to make sure this man is treated fairly.”
According to CDA, the charge of killing a threatened species can carry a two-year prison sentence, a maximum fine of $50,000, and up to one year of probation.
(H/T: Drudge)
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bharris0
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:14amGather up all of the bleeding heart liberals and put them in a pen next to your livestock. If the bear comes after them, do nothing.
They can talk nicely to Mr. Bear and ask it not to eat them.
This just goes to show how out of touch and control, our government has become.
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one years food ration like glenn says
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:31amUmmm, Why not get your family in the house and call the authorities FIRST before shooting the bear ? Not that I agree with the mental EPA but, either the father isn’t explaining correctly or there is more to the story.. AHH , who cares ? I live in Florida, we have to shoot alligators here.. :~)
greensteam
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:38ambecause you also should have a write to protect your property. you dont watch a bear hurt your livestock either. it probably wasnt that big of a threat to his faimily. if he owned 22 acres than he probably was a great distance from any help.
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apbt55
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:41amIf you read it says they were going after his livestock (pigs), I don’t know about idaho, but in PA we are allowed to shoot any animal that destroys or is in the process of destroying our agricultural property, from the neighbors dog to a bear. But in our area it is pretty much farmers and country people, no need to call the authorities over a shot bear, Just skin it up and hand out some meet. A new rug and food for the freezer.
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JQCitizen
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:45amWe should also be able to protect our livestock by shooting predator animals. A grizzly can make mincemeat out of old barns, pens etc; – and we should not have to accept spoiling of our goods to preserve wild animals.
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rodamaa
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:46amThe bears would by-pass the Liberals as toxic substance
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Bluefish49
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:53amA few years ago a freind of mine purchased an old farm property in Effingham Co. Ga. He built a house and then his wife wanted a swimming pool. As they where digging for the pool they uncovered two old graves from the turn of the century. He made the mistake of calling it into the county. In the end to build the pool he had to purchase two grave plots, new caskets and have a service for the bones. To rub salt into the wound his wife refused to use the pool afterward. Lesson learned: Dig another hole, bury the bones,say nothing to the county and especially your wife.
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loriann12
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:00amThe problem here seems to be that a gun was used. We all know how against guns they are.
I would do the same thing in a heartbeat. No way a bear, no matter what type, is going to hold me hostage in my house. And I’m not going to watch it eat my livestock, either.
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Docrow
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:04amOnce an animal finds a place for food it will keep coming back. The guy did what he had to to and what most people with common (or uncommon how ever you look at it) sense would react. Who is on the top of the food chain?
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RedinLouisville
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:05amI guess the lesson for the day is, if you have to defend yourself against a grizzly, don’t call anyone afterwards.
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BoredWithLibs
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:07amDo you have a clue as to how fast bears can run, or how vicious a grizzly bear can be in the presence of her cubs if she thinks they are threatened?
No?
Then shut up.
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mdlwoods
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:31amYou absolutely read my mind! But I say, lets strap them to a tree, out in the forest. If no one is around to hear, does a tree-hugging environmentalist scream when a bear attacks?
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ashestoashes
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:38amThe bears were going after the children’s pigs. Kids raise pigs for fair projects, and they sink thousnds of dollars into them and they eventually wind up in someone’s stomachs. Aside from being lethal, as having a grizzly around can be, would you just stand around and let an animal attack and kill your animals on your own property? I still rememeber watching Planet Earth, how when a pack of lions took down an elephant, as the photographers were scared out of their wits in a truck with the windows rolled down. Had I been there, and had I been armed with adequate weaponry I would so have wanted to kill that pack or lions. I have seen lion and leopard hunters when shooting one, they will actually turn and come to get you. A Grizzly will eat it’s own cub if it is lame. Maybe humans are no where near extinct, but I would still defend one over and animal, a tree, or a rock, just as I would defend one animal being attacked by another.
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BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:39amOMG- I read the headline and first thought that it had to be sensationalism, it’s so absurd. But, wow, oh, wow. The idiot left will not be happy until PEOPLE are on the endangered species list.
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Ronko
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:41amI see nothing wrong with what this guy did and the fact that he is being charged for self defense and preservation is ridiculous. The Bear thinks we are food and no damn law is going to change that mindset.
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jueta
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:46amTo One Years Food Rations
Yes, he does have a right to protect his lively hood, his live stock. Once these bears find a source of food the will continue to return. It’s like a handout it’s easier than having to track something down and work to catch it and kill it. If this guy lost any pigs and got new ones the bear would just come back for them too. He would never feel safe letting his kids go outside again with out being armed or him watching over them and armed himself.
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a12iggymom
Aug. 25, 2011 at 10:18amShould he have waited til his family became lunch? These people need to be put in a cage with one of their buddy-bears and see how fast they beg someone, anyone to shoot the thing…..BEAR’S EATING ME, GIRL TOLD MUM IN CALL http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/265455/Bear-s-eating-me-girl-told-mum-in-call
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nptden
Aug. 25, 2011 at 10:19amAnother example of govt control over common sense. Put that administrator in the same position, then don’t help him. He can sacrifice himself as a good Comrade.
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Bloody Sam
Aug. 25, 2011 at 10:21amHell…even in The People’s Republic of Massachusetts, we have the right to shoot and kill any predator who is harassing our livestock.
Our Federal Gubmint needs to be curtailed, trimmed, slashed, and neutered.
It is making us less free and unable to enjoy the fruits of or labor and our liberty.
It has “becomes destructive to these ends” and we need to be “abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect” our “Safety and Happiness”.
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rrjenn
Aug. 25, 2011 at 10:33amLast thing in the world I’d want to do is kill a mother grizzly bear if I didn’t have to. I wonder did he really have to kill the bear? Was his family really in immediate danger from the bear? Shouldn’t he go out into the woods and make sure there are no more grizzlies withing say 100 miles just to be safe, and if they are kill them, just to be safe? Ever heard of bear mace? Really great deterrent unless you just really want to annihilate the grizzly bear population, just to be safe since you now occupy their world and they need to go.
urrybr
Aug. 25, 2011 at 10:42amTouche’!!! In fact, let’s get PETA supporters in the pen with the bleeding hearts . . . kill two birds with one stone . . . uh . . . one pissed-off grizzley momma.
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CrazyTexan
Aug. 25, 2011 at 10:54amPeppa,
Here is where you are so screwed up. If you scramble up an eagle’s egg, you can go to jail, but killing an unborn child in the human womb is perfectly legal. Either the unborn eagle is life or it is not, you cannot apply one standard to one species and another to humans, just because it suits your political agenda. Until you get some consitency in your thought processes, everything else you say is just bunk.
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maumau
Aug. 25, 2011 at 11:13ami guess this is how they wanted it to go down.
“get the kids inside dear there is a bear coming, oh wow look at that beast hey dear how much of our money is this guy going to eat today my, my better call the police while i take a tally of it. you know we might get lucky and he will leave us a chicken or two by the time the police get here. wow hun you dont see an endangers species everyday come look at this magnificent animal, oh sh#* no one told little timmy about the bear, quick hand me the frying pan!”
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banjarmon
Aug. 25, 2011 at 11:37amSomething that big, with a huge mouth and yellow teeth, coming after me, I’m a gonna beat it to death with a hickory stick or run it to death, him chasing ME! It’s his choice.
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addie
Aug. 25, 2011 at 11:53am@One Food – Do you know how fast Grizzly’s can run? 30 MPH! Yes, that is right, WAY FASTER than a child. Gathering the family and putting them in the house may spark interest from the MOTHER grizzly and this story may not have such a happy ending. He did the right thing as a mother bear is probably the most dangerous animal one can run into.
I was going to buy a house on a lake here in FL when I was reading about alligators. It is a felony here to kill an alligator, even to protect your dogs. I called my friends who live here as well and they said, “Kill it and call us, we will help you take care of the body” Now that is what I call good friends!!! lol. Although I decided against the house, it was worth taking a chance.
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JimmyP
Aug. 25, 2011 at 12:37pmTrue. True. Recall the little girl who “forgave” the shark that bit her. She said the shark didn’t “mean to” hurt her. Just exactly were did this idea come from? Her parents, teachers or Bible class? Maybe mom, dad and all her little friends can go swim to tell Sammy the Shark it is all OK…
I met a neighbor told me he and his wife routinely need to calm their crying children because the polar bears are dying or some other eco-terrosit crap as taught to them by their teachers…The school board did nothing when told of these incidents.
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ltb
Aug. 25, 2011 at 12:40pmThis guy should have shot the bear with a tranquilizer gun, loaded him in a pickup truck and dumped him near the home of a local Fish and Wildlife Service bureaucrat.
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Pujols
Aug. 25, 2011 at 1:42pmWhat was He suppose to do? Try to pet it?
PETA, You should stand up for this Man. Just think if you were there and He saved your life.
TRY THINKING THAT INSTEAD OF THINKING OF HIM AS ‘A BEAR HUNTER!’
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Stfwud
Aug. 25, 2011 at 1:49pmI read Cass Sunstein appointed the bear an attorney.
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North Idaho08
Aug. 25, 2011 at 3:03pmhttp://www.idahoforwildlife.com/Website%20articles/Jeremy%20Hill%20grizzly%20incident.pdf
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doughoward
Aug. 25, 2011 at 3:45pmI’ll vote for that as many times as Obama will let me!
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Nightjar
Aug. 25, 2011 at 3:56pmbharris0, yeah, even GRIZZLIES matter more than American citizens…..
Shows how cheap life has become.
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henryKnox
Aug. 25, 2011 at 4:15pmAmazing how liberals run away from their policies when they are shown to be wrong. In the first place the constitution gives us the right to defend our property. The EPA and the ESA are just ways to bypass the constitution. Liberals don’t really care about the animals protected by ESA, they use these regulations to impose policies on the American people that they couldn’t do through constitutional means. Authoritarian, unconstitutional branches of gov’t like the EPA need to be abolished and laws should have to be passed by congress. Hopefully, stories like this will begin to wake Americans up. It is amazing how many are in a deep slumber (or hybernation in the stories vernacular).
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Publius Huldah
Aug. 25, 2011 at 4:24pmYes, the federal government is “out of control”. Congress has no constitutional authority to make a law which purports to prohibit people from shooting grizzly bears who come on to their private property! If anyone has contact with defendant or his lawyer, give them this: http://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/category/criminal-code-us/
It should come in handy. They should defend the case on at least two grounds: (1) That the Statute under which Defendant is charged is unconstitutional as outside the scope of the legislative powers granted to Congress in the Constitution, and (2) self defense.
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sagewoman
Aug. 25, 2011 at 4:54pmgive me a break, I’m a bleeding heart liberal, yes, he should have taken the children inside and called authorities, if a human was threatened, then shoot the bear, this is what happens when human beings incroach upon animal habitats, they get threatened by their presence — hello! What did you expect when you moved out there, chihuahuas?
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Nyle
Aug. 25, 2011 at 5:16pmHe shouldn’t even have to claim he was defending his kids. If an animal comes to eat livestock you should be able to kill it. If it’s willing to break in an eat livestock, what do you think – it thinks of people in a house?
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avenger
Aug. 25, 2011 at 6:30pmthis is beyond stupid.should have buried the fkng bear..end of story.the fkng gov.is out of control with stupid laws that place animals above humans !
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DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
Aug. 25, 2011 at 6:38pmHey “sage” woman… um aren’t humans part of the animal kingdom? (especially since libs are mostly evolutionist) So… bears get to live where they want and not vice versa? Bears can kill to eat but humans can’t kill to eat (or so humans can eat their livestock)? The problem with your “logic” is that you are not pro-animal, you are anti-human. You are a nihilist. This is an indefensible viewpoint. Everything animals can do, you claim that humans cannot. Humans invade their territory? What is our territory? Cities? Where were cities built and how did they get there? So if humans can not tread on bear lands then bears should stay of human lands? Is this all confusing?? It’s called leftist circular “reasoning”. Consider yourself served.
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damrite1969
Aug. 25, 2011 at 6:52pmYes Sir…… them Lib’s would make great bear bait..
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408 CheyTac
Aug. 25, 2011 at 6:59pmThose of us who have lived in the country long have realized there is a proper way to deal with this sort of thing.
” Shoot, Shovel, and Shut Up!”
Works with eagles poaching the ducks out of the pen, cougars, foxes, timber wolves, bear, deer, or whatever else shows up.
Remember, once you dial that phone, you are at their mercy, and their job is to write citations, and make money on fines. Only a complete dumbass calls the constabulary once the booger-hook presses the bang-lever.
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BigJohnT
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:01pmBan all bears.
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Ready2Rumble
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:12pmMore governmental stupidity.
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droysdon
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:07pmI agree! Feed em’ all to the bears! Idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111
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droysdon
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:16pmOh Ms. “Peppa”, what world are you from? There is no “spin” on this. Just who do you think inacts laws like this that end up screwing those that are innocent. And you said that no one would do what this article is implying? Uh excuse me but they have already arrested this guy for protecting his family. I live in bear country and I WILL defend my family against bears, snakes or thieves however I have to!
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georgiavietvet
Aug. 25, 2011 at 11:07pmthe enviromental wackos at it again. i would have done the same thing that this man did…………………
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the hawk
Aug. 25, 2011 at 11:20pmthey should put the officials who filed these charges in jail 2 yrs ! ! ! ! Or just _____________them !
Gov gone Crazy, This is’nt even Government, Their are so many laws that precede this?…………………
Cass Sunstein is this you idea? was are criminal a Tea Partier?
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dr_funk
Aug. 25, 2011 at 11:25pmThe only reason the Grizzly is even a “threatened” species in the US is because its native habitat barely extends into the US. They’re all over the place in Canada.
The ESA is just another avenue for leftists to exert oppressive force on the citizenry.
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dr_funk
Aug. 25, 2011 at 11:39pmhttp://dsc.discovery.com/videos/bear-feeding-frenzy-a-grizzly-attack.html
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robbpa
Aug. 26, 2011 at 12:18amKill a bald eagle with a windmill and it’s OK. Kill an attacking grizzly and you go to jail. Am I missing something?
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TheSoundOf Truth
Aug. 26, 2011 at 12:47amSagewoman, what makes you think the bear wasn’t encroaching on the *people’s* territory?
We have as much a right to this land as the bears do, no?
Tell ya what: why don’t you move to an arid, barren wasteland out in the Gobi, leave all of your worldly possessions behind (give them to drug addicts, you know, like what liberals like to do), and live out in the wild completely naked and instead of eating animals and plants and stuff (you, know, *living* things) just photo-synthesize and then die like the moron you are.
Let’s hope Social Darwinism runs it’s course and people like you are simply bred-out of the gene pool.
LOSER.
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Rampart
Aug. 26, 2011 at 1:23amAnd our tax dollars are paying for a TRIAL over this incident because WHY?!?
If I were in this position, I’d take the $20k and the dead bear to a taxidermist, have it stuffed and mounted in a standing attack position and haul the beast into court to stand beside me at the defendant’s table during the hearing, fleas and all.
Ladies and Gents, our country is swirling the drain–It’s time to end this dance with stupidity, cowardice and illogic. Life is too short to accomodate morons of this caliber, no matter their pedigree.
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The-Monk
Aug. 26, 2011 at 2:05am@all the anti gun people…
Well, since the Grizzly Bear is dead, let’s put the jury in a room with another Grizzly Bear and see what they would do. Give 6 people weapons and give 6 people no weapons, Let’s take a vote after 5 minutes. What do you think the outcome will be?
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MistyBlueAngel
Aug. 26, 2011 at 2:09am@ “One years food supply”, have you ever seen a bear break into a house? It happens all the time. A grizzly bear can stand up to ten feet tall on it’s back legs, and it is one powerful creature. It will not be stopped by a door or a window. In fact, there was a case some years back where a bear was breaking into a couple’s cabin and the man “went for help”. Of course while he was gone, his poor wife who was left behind was eaten alive. No, sorry, when it comes to my life, or my kids life, I’m not going to “wait for the authorities” who may take all day to get there and find only the remains of me and my family. I’m going to shoot to kill, the bear, that is!
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ghostsouls
Aug. 26, 2011 at 5:39amCalling the authorities would do nothing. Has anyone ever had to call animal control over a dog running loose, chasing you and your family? I have 8 days later they came by to see what that was about. Now if you don’t do anything, they will keep coming back, every day. They found food, and will consider it a place to come to eat. Telling the bear “I just called the authorities on you!” Won’t do much of anything. I lived in the country growing up, raised livestock. If you don’t shoot or kill the predators coming after your livestock, they will keep coming back for more. So what then, you just keep inside your home 24 hours a day 7 days a week? How long do you think then” authorities” will stand guard over you and your children, your livestock and property? People need a dose of reality.
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lornair
Aug. 26, 2011 at 8:06amTis a shame we value wildlife over our families..Gosh THE LORD gave us authority over the wildlife not to destroy what He created but to honor it..How have we become so twisted in our values that we are punished for killing a possible threat..True what the bible says: In the last days we will see evil as good and good as evil..Killing without reason is not honoring that life, but killing to protect your loved ones is valid….
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IlovemyAkita
Aug. 26, 2011 at 2:54pmHey wittle bear. Nice, pretty bear. Would you like to come inside for a nice big bowl of porridge? You can tell me your concerns and I will pass them on to the proper agency that will make sure you receive the food, shelter, and a cell phone,simple things that every living creature deserves, so that you won’t feel different, misunderstood or oppressed………………………………………….:):):)
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FlCracker17
Aug. 26, 2011 at 4:25pmRRJEN and Sagewoman
Comments like yours are further evidence of the ignorance of liberals. We aren’t living in or encroaching on their territory. Its our territory. Humans do not live outside of nature. We are as part of nature as bears, wolves, deer, gators or others. We are an apex predator just like the bears, wolve, gators, etc. As such when two apex predators overlap one has to go. The man defended his home territory and family from another predator, period.
RRJEN
Let’s put bear mace in your hand and see how comfortable you are with your children near a mamagrizzley.
This bear clearly lives where it is illegal to hunt bears. In these locales bears have no fear of humans and humans are twice as likely to be attacked by bears.
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aack73
Aug. 26, 2011 at 5:44pmpeppa it’s all the bleeding heart liberals is why this country is upside down now. liberals suk…..but don’t swallow. ;-)
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Michael Crites
Aug. 27, 2011 at 12:37amTo Peppa
Look lady anyone knows that when a predator and a scavenger find an easy source of food they come back. Grizzly bears are not an animal you want on your property. These things are 800lb killing machines that can easily kill a full grown man let alone a child. So maybe research the animal and find out why it was common sense to shoot the animal, and stop blaming human beings for once. Also as a liberal your gonna get ragged on because your lifestyle doesn’t make sense, your beliefs don’t make sense, and your ways aren’t sustainable.
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1realperson
Sep. 1, 2011 at 12:31amBHARRISO, I must say that you are totally correct when you talk about what should be done. The U.S. Government has shoved the Canadian Wolf down our throat in Central Idaho and they still let all of those who do not have to live with it make up what ever rules they want.Well it is time we put the Wolves and the Grizzly Bears back where they originated from central California and the New England states even the white house could use a good petting zoo and see how they like that when it is in their back yard and one of their own is in trouble for protecting their family.
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Meyvn
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:13amThis is BS. Send a live Grizzly into the prosecutors office and see what happens.
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Southernguy
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:15amlol, there ya go!! Good post ;)
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starman70
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:16amEven better, turn one loose in the courtroom during the trial. Can you imagine the reaction?
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rose-ellen
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:03amIt’s enough to make me want to join a tea party!
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one years food ration like glenn says
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:45am@PEPPA.. Why don’t you just leave, man, ? Why put yourself though the misery of trying to get your liberal views across to us, ? when in fact WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH , your just a blind sheep that never did any digging around to find out what your beloved liberal/demoncraps are all about.. Here , read this book and come back and explain to us all.. What he is trying to do with this information ,Saul Alinsky: Rules for Radicals.. BTW Hilary Clinton did her thesis on this man and book.. Hmmmm…..
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rednrusty
Aug. 25, 2011 at 11:32amlol lol lol
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Confederate Abolitionist
Aug. 25, 2011 at 12:36pmSend it to thwe ESA agent and tell him “skin that one Pilgrim.” Where is Jeremiah Johnson’s
buddy Grizz when you need him?
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avenger
Aug. 25, 2011 at 6:52pmI want to watch !
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chasbronson
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:09amRegulatory agencies run amok.Its happening every where.Job justification.Call your reps,demand they cut all their appropriations for these agencies.Shut them down.They are stomping the Amreican people into the ground.
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booger71
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:35amThe Fish and Game Dept is just one of many of the Federal agencies that need to be disbanded.
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dscon
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:26amit sure would be nice if the govt could be
just as blind (black and white in thinking) with illegal immigration
and deport all violators without question.
NOT
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rose-ellen
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:28amThen again join the tea party-i can’t bear the thought!
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ashestoashes
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:41am@Rose Ellen….Never say never Rose. It could happen…
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avenger
Aug. 25, 2011 at 6:55pmyou bet..shut them down..fkng simpletons “I am just doing my job”.yo…same shet all thru history for myriad of abuse !.
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cmburnett2000
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:04amHumans are the real endangered species here because of the leftist idiots who value everything else and blame everything that goes awry on the earth on humans every chance they get.
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starman70
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:19amYeah, but it is alright to abort thousands of human babies every year. If you kill one Bear in defense of your family, you go to Jail. UUUUUUUGH!
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JLGunner
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:51am@ star agreed, remember, Michael Vick did prison time for fighting dogs where as in Maryland, a man repeatedly raped a young girl for three years and a judge wanted to give him “probation”.
Folks need to wake up. When a Grizzly is staring at you and your family the only animal that is endangered one is human.
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rose-ellen
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:30amThe second amendment gives me the right to bear arms -and the right to arm myself against bears!
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UlyssesP
Aug. 25, 2011 at 10:15pm@rose-ellen
Nice!
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GlassHalfFull
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:02amSo next time he should let bears harm his family and livestock?
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RightUnite
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:26amNo, next time, just “F” the authorities, and bury the d*mned thing!
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one years food ration like glenn says
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:32amNo, bring them inside and make a phone call…
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Race
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:42amGetting the “authorities” involved is a bad move. Just shoot ‘em, shovel ‘em, and shut up about it.
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apbt55
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:50amBring them inside and call the authorities, you have no clue. You have obviously never been in this situation, or have no livestock.
First if they were going for his pigs, how does he get his pigs inside without getting attacked, second, a hungry mother bear will go in a barn or a house for food, especially and hungry mother grizzly. Heck in our area a black bear will come in your house if it’s hungry enough because of the idiots like you who say call the authorities. All they do is move the danger to become someone else problem. Like the bears near us from the developments in NJ. All trash fed and not afraid of people. That is a horrible combination.
In this situation the only sane thing is to shoot the bear. Not call the totalitarian extension of the state known as the game commission.
besides, what are you some big government regulate people’s rights on their own property type of person, that is how your statement comes across.
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one years food ration like glenn says
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:52amYes true the livestock.. He also has a right to protect his livestock.. Ok thats the part I was missing, even thought it was right in front of my stupid eyes.. Guess I’ll read more carefully now..
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eddvoss
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:54am@oneyearsfood, getting them in the house is not always as easy as said. Come up to the Northwest and see how fast you are against a full grown grizzly with cubs. Also this is tall timber country and it is easy to end up with the bear between you and the house. I don’t live far from Couer d’Alene and can tell you that the nearest police office is 11 miles and that the sheriff’s office is over 30. He did the right thing by shooting the bear.
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one years food ration like glenn says
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:04am@EDDVOSS.. Yes I dod rethink my position.. How can I make an assumption and NEVER have lived where grizzlies roam… open mouth insert foot…lol ok ,ok I’m on board Shoot the bastard and make a rug, but by NO means call the friggin gestapo..
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Shellback
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:40am@Race,
I agree, but what about the bearf?
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KangarooJack
Aug. 25, 2011 at 11:42am’1yrs Ration’…hope you live in a “safe” environment. Such as a big city. A Big City where you can call the police/authorities to take care of the safety for yourself and your family.
Ask those people who kept calling 911 for help during: Katrina/Black on White Flash Mobs/Greek Riots{what about the people in the bank?}/London/Manchester/Birmingham/Chicago/Philly/etc.
This man had every Right and frankly, a DUTY to PROTECT HIS CHILDREN. Another poster brought up a very basic and true scenario. If an animal finds a food source (livestock) the animal will return to that site again and again…eventually, one of the children will be easy prey.
Sheep look to the shepherd to protect them. Shepherds protect their sheep. Which are you?
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Sluke
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:00amI would have just shot the bear, then packaged up the meat and put in the freezer. Then I would have went to sleep on my big new bear rug. Why do the right thing and tell anyone?
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Bluefish49
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:05amI smell Cas Sunstien..
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Southernguy
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:15amMy thoughts exactly! lol
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Mil-Dot
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:19amI love animals, including grizzly bears. There are just too many people running around. They are fricking everywhere. You can’t get away from them. There are two sides to every story, the truth is usually in the middle. But anyway, “no good deed ever goes unpunished” is true. Why try to do the right thing nowadays, it will just get you more trouble. If nobody else obeys the law, including politicians, govt employess, minorities and illegal aliens, why should the rest of us?
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florida123
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:57amAnyone still wondering what the hell is wrong in America? Gov’t spending thousands to convict someone and then house them for 2yrs for what? Defending themselves against a known killer…….Pathetic!
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StonyBurk
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:09amYou Nailed it –T’anks. When the statuteory Endangered specie act trumps the Second amendment and our God given right to self defense of our other God given rights then Houston-We’ve got a problem!” As with our Space program it remains a problem that can be fixed. These false charges must be dropped without prejudice and this family payed restitution by those prosecuting them.I don’t fault bears for being bears– but this legal case is just plain wrong.Our God given fundamental rights are under a threat by a government that is chasing chimera.
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Jack Rackham
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:14amWelcome to the world turned upside down!
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59 Fender Pro
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:29amThey should be dropped WITH prejudice, without would allow the prosecutor to refile at a later time.
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searching for the Truth
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:56amThey are unleashing ” bears ” practically everywhere now ( fulfills prophecy ) . You will just have to , somehow, some fashion, protect your children. Don’t leave your children unattended !
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Rob
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:52amOur friend has a ranch and endangered elk wander in from time to time and eat his crop, he shoots a few, buries them and problem solved until the next time.
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OLDBIKEFIXER
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:00amHe buries them? What is he, a vegetarian? Barbecue those critters!
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Gorp
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:06amThat was my thought too. Aren’t Elk good to eat? One would come close to filling a freezer.
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trolltrainer
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:12amHello Robbert,
And your friends name is?
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Southernguy
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:16amBury them he**!!!! That’s some good meat!!!
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SingerGuy
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:23amMaybe he just buries what’s left after a good cut-n-wrap session! ;-)
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MidWestMom
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:33amElk = Yummy
Bear = Yummy
Shoot ‘em, Skin ‘em & Eat ‘em
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one years food ration like glenn says
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:34am@OLDBIKEFIXER: He meant he buries the bones…lol
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saranda
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:03amWhere do you live that Elk are an endangered species? Protected species maybe, but not even threatened anywhere I know of. Need a permit to hunt but really that only stops the idiots from blasting away at anything that moves.
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eagle2715
Aug. 25, 2011 at 10:40amBEAR does not = yummy…skin one once and you’ll never do it again… They only make decent sausage…
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MARCH4HIM
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:52amThis countries moral compass is upside down. when an animals life is worth more than a humans
GOD FORGIVE US
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Rob
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:51amI have no problem with ALL Grizzly’s being killed, sharks too…. if it can kill me, I want them gone.
Freaking lefties would save the dinosaurs if they had a chance..
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SLARTIBARTFAST
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:56amThe 2nd Admendment gaurantees the right ti bear arms, not to arm bears! (OK, OK, someone had to say it),.
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trolltrainer
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:13amyeah, elk too!
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Rocky_biskit
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:50amI know a good recipe for bear!!!! By the time the authorities figured out the bear was dead, the evidence (in my case) would have been consumed!!
As a side note … I consider Jeremy Hill to have been on the “endangered species” list at the time he shot the bear!
Jeremy 1 Bear 0 GAME OVER!!!
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marhee9
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:55amGreat post, that was hilarious. Only in today’s screwed up world could this happen. It’s like the store owner who was recently sent to prison for shooting the man who was robbing him by gunpoint.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKZhaEFA1Yk
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robert
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:58amI’m a pro-conservationist when in comes to wildlife, but I draw the line when it involves predators that exhibit a threat toward my family.
Never, never, never, ever report a necessary killing of aggressive potentially deadly bears, rattlesnakes, and alligators to the attention of the brainwashed radicals in power.
Dealing with ANY government entity is like dealing with a mindless robot that has been programmed to believe it’s job is to rule over people and not serve them.
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RightUnite
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:29am@Robert… Spot on… Only a fool would report something like this in the future…
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MOLLYPITCHER
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:44amGod’s law trumps man’s law. God expects a man to defend his family, no matter what comes down the pike as consequence.
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itsmyfirstday
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:43amWhat if all the bear wanted was a hug??
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OLDBIKEFIXER
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:01amA bear hug? Hmmm…
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Southernguy
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:18amlmaoooooooooooooo
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kickagrandma
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:42amApparently he shot the wrong “grizzly”.
WE THE PEOPLE ARE NOW the ‘”endangered species”, people. I think it is time we “grizzlies” stand up. Count me in.
SILENT NO MORE!
The lawyers for the overreaching government need to spend a week in grizzly territory with NO GUNS, NO DEFENSE, NO CELL PHONES. Just them alone with nature…..and the bears….. then let’s see what tune they sing.
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Southernguy
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:19amThey better not sing real loud, if they do. hehehe
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greggor
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:40amI believe that this man would be just as justified in shooting the judge, as he was in shooting the bear.. in order to preserve his family.
What frikkin’ BS. It is already too late to save this country.
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yougottabekidding
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:54amAgreed! This is only the tip of the proverbial iceburg. When we put the life of people as secondary to animals we have lost.
California and the cute little fish that shut down farms.
The millions of geese that could feed homeless that no longer migrate, but bring planes down and deficate every where, It goes on!
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bikerr
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:40amWho ever is responsible for the Endangered Species Act should be responsible for all money needed to defend this person.Then they should become endangered themselves!
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MOLLYPITCHER
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:45amThey don’t care they WANT man to become an endangered species.
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SCHEXbp
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:52amOn a South Park episode, they said you have to shout the phrase, “Look out, it’s coming right for us.” Then you can shoot it to protect yourself.
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maryann72961
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:39amJust another example of how Goverment regulation over rides common sense.. I’m sure they will attach a stiff fine, and call it a day, after all, the fines that our local goverments are giving to people for the least infraction of the law are over the top. Here in michigan, we have what I call double jeopardy, I recently drove a friend to the hospital to have a procedure done. After she was cleared and we were leaving, I somehow missed the on left turn sign and made a left turn onto the main street going by the hospital. the ticket cost was 120.00, I was guilty, but I asked to go before the magistrate, and thankfully he was willing to lower the fine to court cost only, 40.00 dollars. I paid the 40 bucks, and within a week, I get a letter from the secertary of the State telling me, I have a choice I can take a driver education class at 75.00 dollars per class, or they will notifiy my insurance company, and I Will have 2 points on my record, plus my insurance will goup.. legal extortion. My point is, our goverment is out of control at every level, including the local as well as the national. People are getting sick and tired of being over regulated and penalized for simply defending ones family, or not seeing a sign and making a mistake.
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momsense
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:37amAnother exampple of EPA/politically correct terrorism.
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bigjack940
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:35amThis is not anything new , from our current administration. Just surprised they didn’t confiscate his gun, and fine him for trying to save his family from the bear. Did he read the bear its rights before he shot it.? No wonder the country is in the shape its in. When an animal thats threatening you or your family , has more right to life then you and they do. Time to stand up to these fools and put a stop to this kind of headline, now.
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Bluefish49
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:39amLesson learned…Don’t talk to local or government authorities…keep your mouth shut and bury the evidence. The government is not your freind unless you are a 3rd generation, hand out, lazy baby making machine.
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MidWestMom
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:30am“……Just surprised they didn’t confiscate his gun, and fine him for trying to save his family from the bear…..” – And then investigate him for “child abuse and endangerment” of his kids.
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cthomas7239
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:32amI believe that all of the people who support this kind of intrusive government should have to spend a least one day a year in grizzly country with no weapon. Eventually nature will take care of those people.
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one years food ration like glenn says
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:40amTROLLTRAINER would be one of those that you are referring to..
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ConservativeChristianB1954
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:31amSave the animals but let’s kill babies in the womb. Those horrible babies are a threat to our society.
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Marylou7
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:44amExactly, I have a very soft spot in my heart for animals BUT these idiots don’t care anything about human life especially human babies. HUMANS first.
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bikerr
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:44amSad but true,we need to remove these animal loving,people hating vile out of office and the elected officials who support such crap!
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one years food ration like glenn says
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:46amYes and it all in the name of ” womens rights” ppffft … Mens right ? Not so much, but women ? yes , yes , yes.
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IlovemyAkita
Aug. 26, 2011 at 2:30pmuhhh, i guess it depends on the color!
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aggiebrewer
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:31amClearly, the gun is at fault. If only we had listened to the gun control nuts the bear would be alive, its belly full of pig and children.
What a joke. C’mon Idaho!
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one years food ration like glenn says
Aug. 25, 2011 at 8:44amYou’re right , the friggin law is there so that people don’t go HUNTING for grilzzies.. Protecting ones family is another story.. I agree totally..
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BeHeardAmerica
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:31amWelcome to what we get with our FAT TAX HAPPY Government. More control less common sense
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patriot4ever
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:25amI would have carved that thing up and grilled it.
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will
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:33amMaybe he should have called the SPCA to protect his pigs?
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anothermetalhead
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:35amjust think of how full the freezer would be….(have to buy extra freezers).
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megansmom
Aug. 25, 2011 at 7:38amAnd a new rug for the floor.
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highcarry
Aug. 25, 2011 at 9:17ami’d have killed the cubs too. depending on how old they are, they could become a real problem.
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macpappy
Aug. 25, 2011 at 12:03pmAbsolutely.
Shoot the damn thing, shoot the cubs too; they will be back if you do not. It is your decision to protect what is yours or not. Maybe you are like Grizzly Adams, and want to run out and rub noses with the cute little bear….not me. I envision the freezers full of “1 year supply of food”, some cub soup, and the rug sounds real good.
The only mistake this guy made was involving the police.
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UlyssesP
Aug. 25, 2011 at 10:19pmYou people are crazy. Shoot the cubs? How could you. What a waste!
Why pass up a chance to club them like baby seals and really piss off PETA!?!?
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abbygirl1994
Aug. 26, 2011 at 12:40amThe truth is, is this a conservative site.. and very few of you liberals come here, we know you come to just drive us crazy.. it pretty bad that someone so young and pretty wastes her time coming on here just to stir the pot… I have read or listened to “I have a dream” yet!! Yeah I remember you a very mixed up young woman.. do they pay you to come on here to spread your joy.. what I don’t understand is why don’t you go somewhere where there are like minded people… truly I pity you.. so young and pretty and nothing better to do than try and make the conservatives angry.. is this your only purpose in life?? Sad if it is!!
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