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Is This the Most Confusing Speed Limit Sign You’ve Ever Seen?

Feb. 16, 2012 9:53am

WHITE LAKE TOWNSHIP, Mich. (The Blaze/AP) — An unusual school zone speed limit sign in suburban Detroit has drawn the attention of an irked driver.

Confusing School Sign in Michigan Lists Six Different Slow Down Times

Greg Smith tells The Oakland Press of Pontiac that he noticed the sign recently — which was put up on Jan. 12 — in Oakland County’s White Lake Township that lists six separate times when drivers should slow down to 25 mph on school days.

Smith says drivers “practically have to come to a stop to read it.” An elementary, middle and high school all are nearby.

Confusing School Sign in Michigan Lists Six Different Slow Down Times

Greg Smith and the odd sign. (AP)

Police Chief Ed Harris says a meeting is being called with the White Lake Township supervisor, the school district and the county road commission about the sign. Harris says the township didn’t put it up but is trying to resolve the matter.

“I’m thinking of printing out the speeds and attaching it to my dashboard,” Smith concluded.

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  • Thighmaster
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:44am

    When I was young we were much faster and in much better shape so we didn’t need drivers to slow down in their commute to wherever they were going. I think it should be illegal for students to have cell phones turned on during these hours to give them a fair shot on our roadways..

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    • SpankDaMonkey
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:52am

      .
      Slow Fat Kids are why I have a Brush Guard on the front of my truck……….

      My Mama taught me to look both ways before crossing the street. Must be a lost art……

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    • JohnHW
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:59am

      Whatever happened to school crossings and REQUIRE the STUDENTS cross there. Then you have a sign showing 25 with the words saying WHEN KIDS ARE PRESENT. But, of course, we can’t hold “kids” to any standards. I learned very quickly to use a crosswalk or cross ONLY at intersections. I don’t remember any student being hit in the crosswalk in the ’50s. Now, if a kid wants to do or act a certain way, everyone else seems to be at fault if they try to prevent it.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 11:07am

      That was pretty good Monkey. :-)

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 11:21am

      Just drive 25mph on any given school day. KISS. Keep it simple sailor.

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    • The Gooch
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 11:24am

      Wow. A couple of Darwinians chime in. Yep. kill off the slow, fat kids. What about the slow, fat adults? Funny… the The Blaze is a forum where posters assert the govt. can’t make sure your kid gets a healthy meal in school (and, no, I’m no fan of the food police), but when the general public is behind the wheel of an automobile, kids are moving targets that damn well better stay out of the way. Sounds about right.
      Replace the time range sign with a flashing light and turn the light on when drivers are expected to abide by the 25 mph sign. End of story. And fine the hell out of any turd who can’t be bothered to respect the law or other human beings. My wife was hot on the stick behind the wheel of a car ’til she got busted for speeding in a school zone. It’s amazing how a driver’s safety course, choking up a big wad of cash and points off your license can get most folks’ attention. And no children had to be turned into examples. Go figure.

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 11:34am

      Slow children playing grow up to be slow men working.
      just saying.

      the idea of putting “When Children are Present” seems to be the most logical statement yet.

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    • Nasado
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 11:40am

      @The Gooch
      I am sorry that they either forgot or were unable to teach you what sarcasm is. I hope that you may one day invest in a dictionary and discover this great knowledge for yourself.

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      Nasado  
    • Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 11:57am

      It’s not fat kids, it’s lawsuits. This city wants a digital sign that would change on a timer but they can’t afford one. A light seems like it would do.

      Either way, if you don’t live in this city and drive down this street WHY DO YOU CARE?

      Bunch of gaggling chicken heads.

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      Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American  
    • TomFerrari
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 12:02pm

      I have noticed several in my recent travels, with these bizarre start/stop times.
      7:22am??? REALLY???
      Let me pull over an whip out my atomic clock to synchronize with the school zone.

      Round it off to the half hour. If that is asking too much then at least round it to the quarter hour!

      This many time periods has to be a record, though!
      I’m pretty sure nobody could possibly read all that, even going the lowest speed limits.

      Ah, big government. Isn’t it GREAT?!?!

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    • GeorgieBaby
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 12:02pm

      Adults aren’t that swift either. I was always taught to watch out for cars backing up, that the driver most likely coulnd’t see me, and to NEVER walk behind a car backing up. I think I was the only one taught that valuable lesson on this planet. Adults, and their children walk behind cars backing up all of the time. Stupidity.

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    • 83plus
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 12:45pm

      You’ve got to be kidding me, in my area it’s simple 7:00 AM to 5:00 PM. I don’t recall seeing ‘school days’ or ‘weekdays’ specified but it might still apply.

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 12:56pm

      This is the point where I just stop reading and do 25 in that zone during school hours.

      You wanna honk at me while speeding by? Do so at your own peril.

      Oh- and whoever the moron was that made this speed trap up needs to be fired.

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    • 83plus
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 1:40pm

      Just have it say 6:49 AM to 4:30 PM

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    • 83plus
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 1:42pm

      They can leave ‘school days only’ if they want.

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    • bccrane
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 1:54pm

      Schools in our area have a yellow flashing light and the speed limit sign with the words “Speed Limit When Flashing” (yes I know there may be some smart remarks about that).

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    • Christhefarmer
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 2:00pm

      Umm how bout drive 25 when the light is flashing. Then have a light that flashes during those times.

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    • Wilbur Longshank
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 2:12pm

      Gee here is an Idea. put up a sign after the school area that says end of school zone. then the drivers can speed up again.

      They can’t be that stupid up in Mich oh wait look at the shape the state is in after all those years of liberalism.

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    • libtardian-refugee
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 2:47pm

      In Michigan? are you sure this isn’t in Hazzard County, kind of looks like Roscoe P. Coletrain’s handywork

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    • shack
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 3:12pm

      Just drive the normal speed limit. This and any speed limit based on time is invalid and will be thrown out in court. There is no law, in any state, requiring a driver to know the correct time or even possess a clock. Disregard the sign!

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    • Protoham
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 3:33pm

      So what is the speed not during these hours 25???

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 4:47pm

      Looks like it says 25 MPH all day school days.

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    • Rohawk
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 4:55pm

      I wonder how many kids will get hit while drivers are trying to read the whole sign to figure out whether they should slow down instead of watching the road!

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      Rohawk  
    • GunnsAblazinG
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 6:18pm

      Had a sign very similar to this one near my old neighborhood in Idaho. At an intersection near a high school and jr. high school.

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    • The Gooch
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 6:41pm

      @ Nasado:
      Just trying to point out the disparity in stances some stories seem to force with some posters on this forum. Hell, I’m down with the joke. Dead babies are always funny, right? Swift’s ‘A Modest Proposal’ is a favorite work from my under grad years… it was one of the writings that led me to consider NOT being a liberal jerk. Maybe any kid that can’t make it across the road is used for lunch or breakfast (depending on what time of day the kid is made an object lesson on survival of the fittest). I would counter there is a world of difference between mean-spirited sarcasm (once described to me as “the devil’s tool”) and intelligent satire. Feel free to shuck and jive by calling another poster stupid… it seems this tactic is used liberally in both conservative and progressive sandboxes. Yawn.
      The sign referred to in this story is stupid. Its intended purpose is not.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 9:02pm

      So, if I get pulled over at 7:16 am according to my OnStar GPS device and the Cop writes me a ticket for speeding at 7:14 am, according to his wrist watch, who will the Judge believe? OnStar or the Cops wrist watch?

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    • BLACKDIAMONDSKIER
      Posted on February 17, 2012 at 7:46am

      If you think this sign is confusing… Wait until the government decides that in order to be sensitive to other cultures we need to also make signs in each language that is spoken in the US. Then it would take you 25 minutes just to find the sign written in English.

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    • grannyrecipe
      Posted on February 17, 2012 at 8:11am

      That has to be a prank by some duds that are now laughing their heads off. Whats funny is that it does seem plausible that some governmental entity would do this.

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    • TXPilot
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 1:27am

      Obviously, this is meant to be a speed trap, but one has to wonder, how many kids have been run down, due to drivers trying to both read the sign and check their watch at the same time.

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  • Lumbar Spine
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:42am

    Yea…obviously it’s Obama’s fault. And it means the death of liberty and freedom, too…

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  • Tri-ox
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:28am

    Don’t worry, if obama gets his way, soon we will all be driving Chevy Voltobama-Mobiles, which explode if driven over 25 MPH – Problem Solved!

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    • CatB
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:34am

      Oakland County MI … this burg is Detroit … heck half of them probably can’t even read having gone to Detroit schools .. they need to do what they do here where I live .. 25 mph when LIGHTS are flashing (have lights on sign) ..

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    • AmazingGrace8
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 11:07am

      Love your humor! Reminded me of the movie “Speed”! I have a wicked-sense of humor and love to see these unusual signs. Remembered a Crematory Business that had a bright-red-neon-sign in the window that read “OPEN”…I found that funny! With the cost of “signs” this confusing sign is a Liberal’s view of CONTROLLING with DRAMA, drivers in that area. A simple 6:30-4:30-25 MPH-School-Days-Only sign is a Conservative’s view for drivers in that area!
      I still chuckle about warning labels for idiots and the classic: When removing or replacing fan-belt, please HAVE CAR ENGINE….wait for it……OFF!!!

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    • 83plus
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 1:37pm

      @AmazingGrace8

      I was just thinking myself.

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      83plus  
  • LukeAppling
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:23am

    Bureaucrats only think in terms of themselves never what their audience might see…look at the Obama administration and their regulations as an example.

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  • zman173rd
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:23am

    Here in Montanan we like to “go fast” cause there’s not much between point A and point B. There’s a school zone by me that has a posted sign of 45MPH. When the school is in session the sign pivots to 35MPH and the amber light flashes. Kind of like those bilboards that use shutter type panels. Works for me.

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    • GardenoftheGods
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 1:40pm

      Our town in FL had an interesting way of slowing you down in a school zone…they made it a speed trap. EVERYONE slowed down! It was a nice moneymaker for a small town too :o)

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  • NOBALONEY
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:22am

    “When Children Present” will do.

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  • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:19am

    At least the Police Chief is trying to do something about it, instead of taking advantage of it.

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  • I.Gaspar
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:19am

    It’s not just a sign…it’s an ATM for local government.

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    • skitrees
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 11:19am

      Hahahaha! That’s great…and SO true. You know – when you penalize even those who do their best every day to abide by the law, it’s a bad law/sign.

      Bastogne simply has big signs indicating pedestrian crossings – and they aren’t kidding – there is no “stop, look, and listen” going on there. The drivers learn quickly that pedestrians are king. No extra signs needed.

      Side note: The John Stossel piece about traffic in third world countries is pretty good.

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    • Brainmuffin
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 12:49pm

      People routinely go 40 (instead of the posted 25) through school zones around us and there is never a cop to pull them over.

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  • s0ck_monkey
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:15am

    I’m surprised anyone even noticed the sign at all, considering how busy everyone is texting and surfing Facebook, Twitter, etc while they’re driving…

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    • SoupSandwich
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:22am

      I can’t beleive the racists are allowed to use the name White Lake Township. Have they no govt issued white guilt? The horror, the horror… Meanwhile, back at the ranch, granny is beating off the indians, don’t scalp me, don’t scalp me…. 80% reduction in nuke arsenal, Iran is rattling rusty sabres and we need to discuss a universal minimun tax… sure.

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    • 50Caliber
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:47am

      I can’t believe those lucky Indians.

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  • Jsor2112
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:15am

    Here in FL they did away with the times. Now the school zones have a yellow blinking light on top of the school zone sign that is posted at the beginning and at the end of the school zone … it’s simple … if the light is blinking you go slow … if it’s not it’s regular speed. The light is programmed so when there is a day off or for school vacation the light does not blink and when summer school is in session it blinks at the correct times because the start/end times are different for the day.

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    • Tom K
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:34am

      @JSOR2112: That blinking yellow school zone light worked well in our Florida town until the power outage this past Monday morning: two traffic lights were out too. Meanwhile, back in Michigan; they could post the 25 m.p.h. speed limit from 6:49 a.m. – 4:29 p.m., Monday – Friday. The way it is now, your watch / clock better be on the correct time and the cop’s too. Maybe the local government won’t mess it up.

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    • Jsor2112
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:40am

      @Tom …. The ones where I live have solar panels that store power to be used when needed or backup battery packs. I am in Volusia county.

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    • AlansTigg
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 11:02am

      ours are solar powered here too (central FL)

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    • Thighmaster
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 11:06am

      I suspect the only flashing light you will see here is on top or in the grill of the car transporting the overweight cop who will write you a ticket for not heeding the sign.. but if you look real close you might see a glistening (sun)light flashing off the donut icing on the corner of his mouth as he asks for your drivers license and registration..

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 12:58pm

      GASP!! I blinking light?!

      FREAK OUT! THAT’S NOT GREEN!

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  • flatdaddio
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:13am

    whomever came up with this should be fired…..apparently they are not competent….

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    • Gold Coin & Economic News
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:16am

      Just like our current POTUS.

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    • KickinBack
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:21am

      Thank you big government for only making it six different times instead of ten!

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    • goahead.makemyday
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:30am

      I never got why there are six times. Just say go 25 from half an hour before till half an hour after school ends.

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    • JayCee
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:41am

      Not really.
      They probably got fed up with all the bickering over school zone speed limits and effective times and decided to give the citizens everything they were asking for.

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    • ozchambers
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 11:00am

      Better make sure your watch is keeping correct time!!

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    • Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 12:03pm

      Whoever WROTE THIS “NEWS” ARTICLE should be fired, moron.

      Other news outlets are reporting that the city is attempting to replace it with a digital sign but they dont’ have the funds yet. Sadly, you only get your news from the bubble.

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  • outwest
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:12am

    Yeah, they should post all the ‘non-school’ days somewhere on this sign….another ridiculously long list.

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  • Rick494
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:07am

    And if the police officer’s watch is a couple of minutes fast or slow?

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    • DD313
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:49am

      Have the officer’s watch calibrated like they do for radar guns.

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    • JayCee
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:54am

      It would be interesting to know if anyone who has been ticketed ever uses that argument.
      Maybe we should have our own dashcams with date and time stamped video recording to protect ourselves.
      Some guy used his gps tracking data to fight a bogus ticket and he won.

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  • hauschild
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:07am

    Answer:

    Home school.

    Removes the need for silly speed limits, school buildings, progressive indoctrination, unions, pensions, property taxes, the nanny state …..

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  • JP4JOY
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:05am

    We have a couple of those type of time zone signs here too. Just a tricky way to raise ticketing revenues. Our school zone fines start at $250 and everything is doubled. Speed over limit, points, fines per infraction, all these are revenue generating enhancements. The PD stake out our school zones with dedicated motorcycle units.

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  • brickhouse_22
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:04am

    The sign fails to mention if those times are Standard Time or Daylight Savings Time. Also, I think they should put a sign with the school calendar on it so the drivers know what days are ‘School Days”.
    Wither than or just make the speed limit 25 permanently.

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  • olddog
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:04am

    The Head of the World Bank is stepping down and Hilary want the job, Obama’s behind her 100%, but I say absolutely not. If Hilary knew anything about head, Bill would not have strayed so far..
    Hilary is a woman that will do or say Anything to be in charge of something…

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    • katie5
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:15am

      You’re commenting on the wrong story.

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    • goahead.makemyday
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:34am

      What Hillary did the financial backing for this sign as a way to grow support for her getting the position? Wait so that isn’t what your saying? Then I believe your are more confused than I was all .0003 seconds I had to take to realize your on the wrong story.

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  • COFemale
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:03am

    Here is a thought put in flashing yellow lights when the school zone is in force in the morning 7am – 9 am when children are going to school, turn it back on when students are leaving school from 2-4. Problem solved. Better yet, put the times 7 am – 9 am and 2pm – 4pm is the 25 speed limit. How hard can that be?

    What is up with the 6: 49 am crap? Never hire a man to do what a woman can do in 15 seconds and logic.

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  • FREEDOM_IS_NOT_FREE
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:02am

    If you think this is confusing you should see the school rules for bringing your own lunch. LOL

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  • FREEDOM_IS_NOT_FREE
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:00am

    Who’s idea was this? Maxine Waters? Nancy Pelosi? Meeshell?

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  • Captain77
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 10:00am

    It would be much too simple to simply have the times be from 6:50-4:30. After all, since when was government clear and concise?

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    • JayCee
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 11:04am

      That has been tried.
      Too many complaints from drivers having to slow down when kids are supposed to be in class.
      I have a school zone sign in my front yard but rarely see a kid walking to or from school.

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  • EqualJustice
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 9:59am

    Why don’t they just say “WHEN BLINKING” and put in a blinking warning light? That’s what most schools have.

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  • Drum Man
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 9:58am

    Government run amok….

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    • JBaer
      Posted on February 16, 2012 at 3:39pm

      So true, but at least they spelled “school” correctly. Haha

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  • Ironeagle
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 9:56am

    Its a damn traffic hazard…who is going to take the time to read all that and be distracted while driving? Unless, its meant to help maximize traffic violations–which it will do.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on February 16, 2012 at 9:55am

    Must have been designed by Obama.

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