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6 Dead After Bus Carrying Young Israeli Tourists Explodes in Bulgaria

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Smoke rises into the sky after an explosion at Burgas airport, outside the Black Sea city of Burgas, Bulgaria, some 250 miles east of the capital, Sofia, Wednesday, July 18, 2012. (AP Photo/ Burgasinfo)

  • A bus carrying Israeli youth exploded in the Bulgarian city of Burgas.
  • At least six people were killed, with Israeli media putting the death toll at seven. Thirty-two people were wounded.
  • A witness said she saw someone board the bus before it exploded.
  • Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said “all signs point to Iran” and vowed to “respond with force.”

SOFIA, Bulgaria (AP) — A bomb exploded on a bus carrying Israeli youth in a Bulgarian resort Wednesday, killing at least six people and wounding 32, officials said. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called it “an Iranian terror attack” and promised a tough response.

The explosion took place in the Black Sea city of Burgas, some 400 kilometers (250 miles) east of the capital, Sofia. TV images showed smoke billowing from the scene – a parking lot at the local airport where the Israeli tourists had landed shortly before the blast. Several buses and cars were on fire near the shell of the exploded vehicle.

Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, after being briefed by his Bulgarian counterpart, said the explosion was caused by a bomb placed on the bus. He said seven people died, but by Wednesday night the Bulgarian Foreign Ministry had placed the death toll at six and the number of wounded at 32 people.

No group immediately claimed responsibility. But Israelis often have been targeted outside their country, and Wednesday’s attack coincided with the 18th anniversary of the bombing of a Jewish community center in Argentina that killed 85 people.

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Israel suspects archrival Iran of being behind several of those assaults. The two nations have long been in dispute over the nature of Iran’s nuclear program. Israel has warned it will use military force to curb Iran’s program if it must because it believes Tehran wants atomic weapons – a charge Iranian officials deny.

The Israeli premier noted that Wednesday’s attack followed similar attacks or attempted attacks in India, Georgia, Thailand and Kenya and Cyprus in recent months. He said that once again, “all signs point to Iran,” though he did not offer any evidence to back up the claim.

“This is an Iranian terror attack that is spreading across the world,” Netanyahu said. “Israel will react strongly to Iran’s terror.”

The White House, which has preferred to pursue sanctions and diplomatic pressure against Iran in the nuclear dispute, also strongly condemned the attack, with President Barack Obama calling it “barbaric.” British Foreign Secretary William Hague also condemned the attack and expressed condolences to the families of the victims.

Tehran did not immediately issue any comment.

Bulgaria, a majority Orthodox Christian country of 7.3 million that borders Greece and Turkey, is a favorite tourist destination for Israelis. In recent years, Burgas has become popular as an inexpensive haven for groups of Israeli teenagers taking trips after finishing high school and before their military service.

Lieberman said the bus was transporting tourists who had arrived in a charter flight from Israel. There were 154 people on the flight.

Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Jonathan Rosenzweig said the flight was coming from Tel Aviv and landed at 4:45 p.m. He said the blast took place about 40 minutes later. The tourists were apparently boarding the buses to go to their hotels.

Witness Gal Malka told Israel’s Channel 2 TV that she saw someone board the bus just before it exploded. Malka, who was lightly wounded, said the bus was full of Israeli teenagers. “We were at the entrance of the bus and in a few seconds we heard a huge boom,” she said.

The Burgas airport was closed and traffic redirected. In Sofia, meanwhile, Mayor Yordanka Fandakova ordered a stronger police presence at all public places linked to the Jewish community. There are some 5,000 Jews in Bulgaria and most live in the capital.

Iran, which insists its nuclear program is peaceful, has in the past accused Israel of being behind deadly attacks on Iranian nuclear scientists.

Israel has not admitted a role in those strikes, but it and others have accused Iran of reprisal missions, including a February bombing in New Delhi that wounded an Israeli diplomat’s wife and the discovery of a cache of explosives in Bangkok that Thai officials claim was linked to a plot to target Israeli diplomats. Iran has denied involvement.

In Azerbaijan’s capital, Baku, security officials in March announced the arrest of 22 suspects allegedly hired by Iran for terrorist attacks against the U.S. and Israeli embassies and other Western-linked sites.

Wednesday’s attack also coincided with the 18th anniversary of the bombing of a Jewish community center in Buenos Aires that killed 85 people. An Argentinian magistrate has concluded Iran was behind that attack.

Israeli officials also have long feared that the Iranian-backed Hezbollah guerrilla group would try to attack Israelis abroad. Hezbollah has accused Israel of assassinating a top leader in Damascus in 2008 and vowed vengeance. Israel has never admitted involvement in the death.

Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon on Israel’s Channel 2 TV said there was no advance intelligence on an attack in Bulgaria.

But counterterrorism expert Boaz Ganor said Iran and Hezbollah were the most likely culprits. He told The Associated Press that all the indications pointed toward them. He also cited the arrest of a Hezbollah operative in Cyprus in recent days who was suspected of preparing a similar attack.

“This is probably a parallel operation and likely not the last in a series,” he said. “All this looks like Hezbollah, Iran or a combination of the two.”

This post has been updated since it was first published.

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Comments (83)

  • Central washington
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 5:01pm

    Jerk,,,,, you complain about the Jews moving into what is now proper Israel in 1948. You may complain about Moses and other biblical figures but you are going to be batting your head against the wall if you ignore bible prophecy which is being fullfilled today as we speak. You will never destroy Israel.

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    • Grey Eagle
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 10:43pm

      Bulgaria will cooperate because it happened in their country, but the Mossad are likely there already and they are deadly. Whoever planned this attack, will not escape justice.

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    • Secret Squirrel
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:36am

      .
      It’s reported that the bommer carried a (Fake?) Michigan driver’s license.
      Dearborn, no doubt. U.S. largest muslim population.

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  • RugDog
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 4:38pm

    And obama smiles.

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  • SilentReader
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 4:32pm

    Score one more for the OIC who have abrogated Christianity and Judaism and are now following suit with murdering the Christians and Jews worldwide. It’s been going on now for 1400 years and all the Western criminal politcians are aiding and abetting them, by collaborating with them, in their horrific genocide.

    The OIC is accomplishing the UN’s agenda of creating chaos to orchestrate their world tyranny over us all.

    Remember the OIC defines:

    terrorism = killing a Muslim with no Right
    human rights = Shariah
    religion = Islam only (they have abrogated Christianity and Judaism
    Islamophobia = Islam’s Law of Slander (silencing all non-Muslims)

    Is it any wonder that these Islamist Supremacists are allowed to carry on their worldwide genocide against us all? They have a perfectly willing partner in the UN-EU-NATO Enforcer.

    Vote them all out. Then bulldoze the UN and turn it into a parking lot.

    Then kick Hamas-Muslim Brotherhood linked PR-PC CAIR and all the Muslim Brotherhood entities out of America by declaring the Muslim Brotherhood what it is. A terrorist organization.

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  • Itsnakemo
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 4:00pm

    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/51836/7-israeli-jews-dead-20-injured-in-bulgaria-from-suicide-bombing-attack-on-bus-religion-of-peace-peacefulness/?replytocom=1013886#respond

    Oh, and by the way, lest you think this is a far away event, it isn’t. In fact, the identity of the MUSLIM Argentina suicide bomber, Ibrahim Hussein Berro, was determined after his proud Shi’ite MUSLIM Lebanese family members living in Dearbornistan, MichagaN gave DNA so he could be identified.

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  • OniKaze
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 3:12pm

    More fun times in Eur-asia….

    Muslims and Jewish people proving again that they are religions of peace (just like every other religion…)

    I HATE John Lennon (freakin Hippy) but I wonder, what would this world be like without religion (besides having alot more people on it….).

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    • SquidVetOhio
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 3:45pm

      Pol Pot – Athiest Murdered 3 million

      Stalin – Athiest Murdered over 10 million

      Hitler – Athiest Mudered over 6 million

      You were sayin?

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    • Itsnakemo
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 4:01pm

      ONIKAZE
      why are you blaming the JEWS in this story? Are you brain dead?

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    • usedCZARsalesman
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 5:56pm

      To answer your question…the world would be a cold, dark place of mass murder and chaos…NO charities for the poor, no reason at ALL to live by any other code than “survival of the fittest”…The Church INVENTED the hospital, among thousands of other things…

      To compare Islam with ANYTHING else (other than atheism, since both are completely devoid of God) is moronic…at best.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 12:33am

      Hey Onikaze,
      Let’s test your statement. Make fun of Jesus, Moses and Muhammad publicly. I’d tell you to burn a Qur’an, but I don’t want hundreds of innocent people to be murdered because of you. Did your balls just shrivel, pal?

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    • Conservative-Atheist
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:56pm

      @SquidVetOhio
      Pol Pot – Athiest Murdered 3 million
      Stalin – Athiest Murdered over 10 million
      Hitler – Athiest Mudered over 6 million

      Here we go again with this horse excrement. Try a little reading…you might learn something. None of those 3 people were atheists. Saying so over and over again does not make it so. Just makes you sound like an ignoramus.

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    • Conservative-Atheist
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 11:00pm

      usedCZARsalesman

      To compare Islam with ANYTHING else (other than atheism, since both are completely devoid of God) is moronic…at best.

      That’s the most moronic statement I’ve read today….and I’ve read a lot of moronic statements today but yours wins the prize. I have a copper plated jackass for you, just send 187 dollars plus 193 dollars shipping and handling to claim your prize.

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  • raderby
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 2:56pm

    so this “jerk” person is a plant from Iran, on their payroll, or on Obama’s. Ignore the poo stain and maybe he will go away.

    BTW, JERK: I would be happy to discuss over a beer, like, let’s have a beer conference ! – just let me know where we can meet . . ;k?

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  • MN NICE
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 2:55pm

    Hmmm, had to have been a bus malfunction because our very own state department insists the war on terrorism is over…

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  • KidCharlemagne
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 2:54pm

    “All signs point to Iran” as the perpetrator of the murderous terror attack in Burgas, Bulgaria, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said Wednesday evening.
    ============================================

    Sounds pretty suspicious to me….

    Netanyahu instantly blames Iran with no evidence….

    What about Saudi Arabia?……you know….the land where Mecca is located??

    How come he never blames it on Saudi Arabia (the world capital of Islam)?

    Shouldn’t he make sure it wasn’t Saudi Arabia before he goes pointing the finger at Iran?

    In fact, it’s awfully peculiar that Netanyahu NEVER publicly talks about Saudi Arabia being responsible for ANY attacks (even though that’s where Mecca is located)……and he NEVER broaches the subject of launching a military operations on Saudi Arabia….

    Isn’t that awfully peculiar to anyone else besides me?

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    • SquidVetOhio
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 3:48pm

      “Netanyahu instantly blames Iran with no evidence….”

      And you are privy all the intelligence? Let me ‘splain something to you. I worked in Intelligence. BiBi knows who did this just as we knew who was responsible for 9/11 5 minutes after it happened.

      So, adjust your tinfoil hat. It’s fitting a tad tight.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 4:19pm

      I find it interesting everything is pointing at Iran. I mean what evidence points at Iran 5 mins after a bombing? I understand we are not privy to this information and the Israelis are good at intel but this seems about bit quick.

      As for the Saudi’s they are never blamed for anything. A majority of the 911 hijackers were Saudi.

      If Iran did it, let Israel beat the crap out of them. We need to bring our troops home. This is not our fight. I support Israel diplomatically and military wise if they are attacked but starting world war 3 over this seems absurd. Its not just Iran. China, Russia, India, and many others that have “real” nuclear weapons have a vested interest in Iran and their oil supply. Would we like someone invading Canada over similar claims? We need to wake up and realize we are going bankrupt. If we dont the least of our problems will be a bus blowing up in Bulgaria. We will have buses blowing up here. We will have murder, rapes, looting, and riots on our streets. We will have the government taking guns and indefinitely detaining citizens here.

      Wake up.

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    • usedCZARsalesman
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 8:28pm

      Umm, or they ALREADY had 90% of the intel just not the where and when??? You think these things just happen without ANY warning of ANY kind…take your own advice and WAKE UP!

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  • Too_Far_Gone
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 2:29pm

    The fuse is lit ..

    Hang on, things are not going to get better anytime soon ..

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  • ThoreauHD
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 2:27pm

    Look Ma! It’s Obama’s religion again!

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  • paulusmaximus
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 1:35pm

    Young people are dead and injured by the religion of hate! Mohammad was a mongrel dog! Alia is a lie!!
    The suicide murder is in Hell now and knows the truth!

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 1:46pm

      Who was more ruthless and genocidal than Moses? There are many, many, more examples of genocide written in their words.

      Midianites
      ” Moses was angry with the officers of the army… ‘Have you let all the woman live?… now therefore,
      kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man… But all the
      young girls… keep alive for yourselves.’”
      – Numbers

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    • tzion
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 2:13pm

      @Jerk
      I think you need to double check your sources. Moses’ wife was a Midianite. The Canaanites, meanwhile, the people you were probably referring to, have been shown through archaeology to have been practitioners of child and human sacrifice. You have children. Would you allow a village of these pagans to exist next door to you?

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 2:32pm

      TZION, you’re usually better at this.

      Check out Numbers 31. You are correct, the Midianites did take in Moses in his time of need. They treated him as one of their own, which is why his genocidal rage is even more despicable. It’s reminiscent of Abraham’s abuse of the Pharaoh when he pimped his wife Sarah for power and wealth.

      The Old Testament shows that this was the future Jewish way. As you know, they were not yet Jews at that time.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 2:43pm

      TZION: http://suite101.com/article/midian-attacked-by-moses-in-numbers-31-a209265

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    • SquidVetOhio
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 2:52pm

      “which is why his genocidal rage is even more despicable”

      It wasn’t Moses’ genocidal rage, you bigot. Moses was commanded by God. God created us, He can destroy us if He so wishes for any reason He wishes. He was clearing the land of brutual godless pagans for Israel to be born. So call God a genocidal maniac, if you dare.

      P.S. Abraham was the first Jew. The first time in the Bible the word Hebrew is used was referring to Abraham. Like the word “Christian”, it was meant in a dorragotory manner because it’s thought to have originally meant “someone with no homeland”.

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    • Fubared
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 3:37pm

      Jerky
      Was it a hot little number or a flawed diamond? Really man, you align with murderers of children to back up your little points. Swell doctrine to have for personal insight. Perhaps some time on the west bank with your Euro looks would build some testicular fortitude for you. We can pass the hat if you cannot afford it. Do you have a day where you aren’t all for killing and hating Jews? Does it hurt that that little tiny country smacks down your fellow zealots every time they raise arms? How many of your ************ brethren must they send to Holla for the message to stick? You are mocked and jeered on a daily basis like some whack job lib, but still you try. Any converts at all? Do you have a swastika between your brows? Little tiny country smacks your punk ass brethren down every time, and still you persist. Insanity is_____. Answer: The Jerk.

      Fubared  
    • DayoftheRope
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 4:37pm

      the_jerk, you r very intelligent. i like your style

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    • DayoftheRope
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 4:42pm

      u really should read some real history, fubard. maybe something other than the b. s. propaganda u get from the history chanel. David Irving anyone?

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  • momrules
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 1:27pm

    A preplanned Muslim attack on Israeli kids. The Israeli’s will get to the bottom of this, have no doubt they will. Whether it was the MB or just your typical Muslim murderer from some obscure terrorist cell the rest of them will be hunted down like the dogs they are and killed.

    The Israeli people will expect retribution and Netanyahu and the Mossad will make sure they get it.

    May God be with the hunters and may God be with the families of the murdered.

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  • OperationNorthwoods
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 1:13pm

    This is horrible. Leave the kids out of it whoever did this ****.

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    • mike_trivisonno
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 2:17pm

      The muslims have a special hatred of non-muslim children. They are despised and hated. Learn about the children of Beslan to see the sort of jihad violence envisioned by muslims for the children of America.

      This is violent Jihad. Bulgaria should immediately 1) Outlaw Islam, 2) Close the mosques, and 3) deport the muslims.

      Remember the Children of Beslan.

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    • Sol Invictus
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 5:06pm

      Remember the children of Utøya island.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 1:01am

      MIKE_TRIVISONNO
      They rape their own children. What else can you expect when you serve Satan under an alias!

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  • zoro51
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 1:10pm

    murdering MUSLUMS they have no care whom they KILL save that they KILL thier “religion” a man made CYLT of hate n death their god allah a FALSE STONE IDOL man made god no heaven only HELL for ALl muslums.. p more proof of MURDERING MUSLUMS,…

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  • jamesctheman
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 12:57pm

    Just like we have expected gang. MB, Iran. Pick your group. It could have been any one of them. Iranians are more cowardly so they would most likely be killing kids. Typical civilian killing. Hallmark of the jihadists. I expect this to be ramping up another notch. We’re not building up our presence in that area for nothing. Obama is just trying to hold the cards close because Nov. is right around the corner.

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  • bikerdogred1
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 12:54pm

    The jews will get even,the muslims can not get along with each other never mind the jews.

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  • MrKnowItAll
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 12:52pm

    Main Steam Media will Not cover this. I Pray Constantly for the people in Israel. You should too. These Murderers Hate us just as much and it’s only a Matter of Time before someone sneaks out of Dearborn, Michigan and starts doing this here.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 1:01pm

      Who are the real murderers? http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIWvcBzbqVc

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    • SimpleTruths
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 1:04pm

      It was reported on all major news outlets, typical conspiracy theory BS.

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    • tzion
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 1:46pm

      @Jerk
      Here’s a sample of your supposed victims taken from your own sources:
      Muhammad Ashraf Abed-Rabo Ghaban, 17, of Beit Lahiya, Gaza, killed by an IDF shell while trying to bomb the Gaza perimeter fence.

      Aysar Yasser Fawaz Zaraqah, 15, of Mazra al-Sharkiya, near Ramallah, killed by Israeli settler gunfire to his back after throwing stones at the settler’s car on the Ramallah-Nablus Road near al-Bayada.

      Fares Fayq Odeh, 14, of Gaza City, killed by IDF gunfire to his head while throwing stones near the Karni checkpoint.

      Amr Qathem Kamal Arafat, 17, of Nablus, killed by IDF gunfire to his back while throwing stones from the roof of his school.

      I could continue but the point is clear. Over 90% of the “children” your source mentions were teenagers, over two thirds of those were killed at, near, or from injuries suffered at or near a “demonstration”. What exactly is happening at these “demonstrations” that is causing so many people to be killed? Why is no information available for the years prior to 2000? How is “hostilities” being defined? Why is your source holding Israel responsible for the economic conditions of those living under Hamas? Why does one of the sources not print the Palestinians killed by Palestinians in the first intifada (I can answer this one: more Palestinians were killed by each other than by Israel)? Why no condemnation of Jordan for Black September?

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 2:41pm

      TZION, perhaps you misunderstand. Both sides are despicable, but one side started this mess.

      European Jews and American Jews, supported by international Jewish financiers, took homes and land owned by others. These foreign Jews engaged in ethnic cleansing. These foreign Jews moved people into ghettos. These foreign Jews walled in these ghettos.

      These foreign Jews have done to others that which had been done to them. Hypocrisy to all who support this modern day atrocity. If these Jews are not the abhorrent today, then they could not be the victim of yesterday.

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  • rickc34
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 12:49pm

    This is nothing new for the Israel , they have enemies all over the world, why? because they are Gods chosen people and a stumbling block to the world, All that suicide bomber got was a quick ticket to hell.

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  • SquidVetOhio
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 12:49pm

    I see an Israeli air strike in the not-too-distant future. These pigs are going to learn the hard way that BiBi “ain’t no punk”!

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  • The_Jerk
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 12:46pm

    An attack not perpetrated by Americans, victims not Americans, and did not take place in America. Why is this news in America? Disproportionality of a minority.

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    • SquidVetOhio
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 12:51pm

      Don’t worry, you favorite healines about TomKat are still on the front of every magazine. A few dead jews won’t get in the way of the important stuff, eh jerk off?

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 12:56pm

      Proportionality is a concept that never applies to the chosen. Are there Gettysburg memorials in Europe? Why are there holocaust memorials in America?

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    • tzion
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 1:13pm

      @smackthejerkdowm
      We hear about terrorist attacks against Spain, Britain, France, Greece, etc. What’s so unusual about reporting about attacks against Israelis in Bulgaria? Why is it you never complain about news reports about Syrian rebels or which paint Israel in a negative light? And as for your whole Gettysburg comparison (and I use that worse very loosely since there is no comparison), how does a memorial commemorating a critical battle in a war compare to a memorial for victims of a massive campaign of extermination? Are there not memorials for the Rwandan or Armenian genocides? Cambodia? Darfur?

      Your not fooling anyone but yourself with your pathetic attempts to cover your blatant prejudice and bias against Jews. The fact that you probably believe what you said only proves how much of a fool you are. Your are way too willing to believe your own lies to be taken seriously on any topic.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 1:36pm

      TZION, good to hear from you once again. My problem, as many pro-Israel propagandists would say, is one of fairness and balance in reporting. Conventional wisdom is that Jews are always the victim, when reality paints a different story. The ‘problem’ is that the reality is rarely reported.

      Since you brought up the extermination argument, let’s take a closer look at why Jews were singled out as enemies of the German state. Let’s see who declared war on who, first. Let’s see who boycotted who, first. Let’s also ask why those who declared war shouldn’t have suffered the exact same consequences that all others, who have declared war, have suffered.

      Let’s do this, not in my words, but theirs:
      http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/jewishwar.cfm

      Let’s look at a real piece of history that is never taught in our schools because it doesn’t fit the victim narrative:
      http://www.iamthewitness.com/doc/Samuel.Untermyers.speech.in.1933.htm

      I am of the belief that all topics should be up for debate, and that the truth should be let out of the little black boxes.

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    • tzion
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 2:09pm

      @Jerk
      That’s your source? Every source you quote is one that intentionally represents information in support of their own agenda. Even with it your argument is mind numbingly idiotic. How does a group of American Jews number in the hundreds or thousands at most calling for a boycott on German goods justify the systematic murder of nearly 11 million people over half of them European Jews? Do you seriously believe that Hitler was only responding? Only a collectivist, for whom the concept of individualism and individual rights are ludicrous, could possibly make that argument. Hitler was a collectivist (Aryans are inherently superior), as are Communists (the rich are all evil), antisemites like yourself (Jews are all guilty of cultural subversion) etc.

      Hitler’s hatred of Jews was made clear long before the Holocaust itself came around. My grandparents and great-grandparents were German Jews and they started leaving their homes, businesses and coming to the US long before WWII and Holocaust officially started. My grandfather got out so early that he had become a US citizen, been drafted, completed his training and been stationed at Pearl Harbor all BEFORE the Japanese attack. What inspired his family to flee? My dad has found reason to believe that a Nazi attack on their local butchery, which they repelled, followed by someone taking a shot at my great-grandfather might have been what set them on edge.

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    • mike_trivisonno
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 2:20pm

      Please stop feeding the troll. The_Jerk is a troll.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 2:51pm

      TZION, you can attack the source, but it remains the truth. You can do your own own search, historical fact is fact. All you do is make and argument that attempts to lessen the impact of those facts, because these facts lead to a different conclusion and reality than your contrived reality.

      Look, Einstein was an admirer of fellow Jew, Marx. Marx’s philosophy has led to the deaths of hundreds of millions. None of this changes the facts of his special theory of relativity.

      You may not like the source, but the facts are indifferent.

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    • DayoftheRope
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 4:44pm

      tzion, u r a sick depraved jew just like ur grandfather

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    • tzion
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 9:48pm

      @jerk
      You failed to see that I did indeed address your point and failed to answer how a boycott called for by some justifies the murder of millions. You failed to prove that Hitler’s dislike of Jews was caused by the event you cited. In fact, your entire comment was a waste of space because you failed to even address my points preferring to dismiss them.

      @dayoftherope
      You do realize that my grandfather fought for your right to say that. In fact, both my grandfathers, my uncle, and two of my great-uncles all fought as part of the US military. You’re clearly a collectivist who prejudges individuals based solely on their background. You’d make an excellent communist or fascist.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 2:03am

      @TZION
      Are you aware that most — if not all — of these Jew haters are really Islamists? They fly under the radar in hopes of winning a few weak souls, especially among the Paul sheeple. Don’t be fooled by their hatred of Obama. A true Islamist hates Marx and his followers. Also, Hussein is drone-catapulting to hell any jihadist who threatens Obamanation. If only they would kill each other off.

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  • RJJinGadsden
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 12:20pm

    Just saw on Fox an updated report that as these tourists were getting on the bus a suicide bomber got on with them detonated his bomb. Apparently a well planned attack by a group who knew they were coming.

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  • oldschool66
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 12:14pm

    And now lets back a few stories and we have the muslim brotherhood infiltratrating our federal govt under this admin…….they have already changed training policies on ranger and spec op groups making us look like a bunch of “racists” …..admit it they are trying to take over the world and they calll themselves peaceful ..when the American people have the cloud removed from their eyes by the blaze then action will come to pass let it be sooner than later

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  • drattastic
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 12:11pm

    Must be those wacky peace loving muslims again. Them and their practical jokes ,what a riot. Cheers all around in the White House ! Keep voting democrat American Jews and we’ll all skip to the ovens together in the not so distant future.

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 12:11pm

    Obamas friends strike again……..

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 12:03pm

    The child murderers are probably affiliated with our new best friends, the Muslim Brotherhood.

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