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‘A Big Cherry Picking Exercise’: Skeptics Weigh in on the Latest Global Warming Study

Aug. 7, 2012 9:30pm Liz Klimas

Over the weekend, TheBlaze reported NASA scientist James Hansen, a man who has been called the “godfather of global warming,” issuing a study that found temperature climb experienced over several decades was a solid result of climate change — nothing else. He was also advocating for government action to curb the effects of global warming.

Hansen and his study colleagues determined through statistical analysis of data — not climate modeling techniques — that the extreme temperatures experienced in recent years are so rare that the odds point favorably to it being a result of global warming, not natural trends.

This animation depicts Hansen’s review of surface temperature trends from 1955 through 1999:

Scientists have long held that the weather outside your window should not necessarily be attributed to global warming. But with more extreme conditions as of late, it is influencing the connection none the less.

Others now coming out saying the data used in the analysis by Hansen is “cherry picking.” The New York Times reported NOAA researcher Martin Hoerling, who is in fact concerned about global warming and the environment, previously calling out Hansen for “exaggerating the connection between global warming and specific weather extremes.” He told the Times this is the case with the latest study.

“This isn’t a serious science paper,” Hoerling said. “It’s mainly about perception, as indicated by the paper’s title. Perception is not a science.”

Anthony Watts, who maintains the skeptic blog “Watts Up With That,” detailed what he believes were many issues with Hansen’s animation and study that make it “a big Cherry Picking exercise.” Here are just a few of his criticisms:

1. Note all of the missing southern hemisphere data. There are operating weather stations during his time, but they are excluded from the analysis. Why?

2. The period chosen, 1955-1999 (in the bell curve animation) leaves out the warmer 1930′s and the cooler 2000′s. Why?

3. The period from 2000-present has no statistically significant warming. Leaving that period out (of the bell curve animation) biases the presentation.

Check out Watt’s full post for more of his thoughts on the research here.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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Listen_then_think
Posted on August 8, 2012 at 12:10am
Global warming is a proven crock again. How many times are the stupid liberal left going to play the same failing hand over and over? They are idiots.

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- pdw
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 12:48am
  No! they are just greedy thieves.
  
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- FormerLib
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 1:18am
  There are three questions concerning “global warming”, all separate issues, and we would do well to not conflate the three. They are:
  
  1) Is there global warming?
  2) Is man contributing to it or causing it?
  3) Can man stop it?
  
  The answer to question is in probably. As it always has, the earth is either warming or cooling. There is no “normal”climate. North America has been under ice approximately 30 times to one degree or another. It has warmed again,melted the ice,and in fact been much warmer than it is now. We know from fossils that tropical plants grew in Alaska and from archaeology that Vikings grew wine grapes in Greenalnd.
  
  #2, are we contributing to it? Perhaps, perhaps not. Is CO2 from a billion SUVs any more harmful than one volcanic eruption? And why is CO2 and any resultant warming always assumed to be harmful? In the Eocene age, CO2 levels were 300 times higher than today, and life exploded on the planet. Greenhouses are used to grow plants. Why are they good but a warmer planet is not?
  
  #3, probably not. But even if we could, how do we know we are not interfering with adaptation and evolution by doing so? The destruction of the dinosaurs led to the rise of mammals. Perhaps another mass extinction is necessary for the next wave of species.
  
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- ccprotect
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 2:19am
  Global warming is real! look at my scientific information I have gathered from my digital weather station in my back yard.
  December 2011 daily low temperature of 22.375F deg to July 2012 daily high temperature of 83.568F deg.
  that is a 61.193F degrees up swing proof that there is a warming trend. now to prove that it could be manmade I took a blow touch to my temperature sensor and the temperature went off the charts proof that man can affect the temperature. so, it is settled and you can’t dispute my facts…. Now where did I put all those carbon credits I bought.
  
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- Stoic one
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 4:30am
  I noticed that the 1930′s dust bowl years were NOT included.
  
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- Stoic one
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 4:39am
  Let’s see if this cut & paste works here:
  
  Gas Name Chemical Formula Percent Volume
  Nitrogen N2 78.08%
  Oxygen O2 20.95%
  *Water H2O 0 to 4%
  Argon Ar 0.93%
  
  *Carbon Dioxide CO2 0.0360%
  
  Neon Ne 0.0018%
  Helium He 0.0005%
  *Methane CH4 0.00017%
  Hydrogen H2 0.00005%
  *Nitrous Oxide N2O 0.00003%
  *Ozone O3 0.000004%
  
  * variable gases
  HMn………I think WATER has more of an effect than co2
  
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- tiki886
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 5:16am
  Just because he is an atheist doesn’t mean he is without capacity to have faith. He is the high priest of the new religion of Global Warming.
  
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- jens63
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 6:52am
  So are we (mostly all) agreed. Anytime someone mentions global warming to me as a negative I ask why is Greenland called Greenland? We can spout off all we want here, but to accomplish something we have to keep after our elected officials and spout off to them. They will backslide and take the easy way if we don’t keep after them.
  
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- lowerclassrepublican
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 9:35am
  Talk about water! What do all the greenys want us to do? Oh yea drive around in a million steam generators (Hydrogen cars) ,but only after we make the Hydrogen by burning a few billion lumps of coal.
  
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- Thomas_Jefferson
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 11:48am
  @Listen_then_think
  
  The sober liberals know global warming is a crock. They also know its a money maker, via carbon credits. Taxation without representation.
  
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- FingerBlisters
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 2:02pm
  The easiest and most cost effective way to make hydrogen is from natural gas. Of course the byproduct is CO2.
  
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- BIGWUN
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 5:35pm
  As long s they think they have a chance of stealing in the name of global lieing.
  
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- kjbow3359
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 9:11pm
  In about 3-5 years time it will be difficult to find anyone who will admit to believing in global warming.
  
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avgconservative
Posted on August 8, 2012 at 12:04am
Global warming scientists are the used car salesmen of the scientific community. I once said, “I trust science. I just don’t trust scientists.”

That insulted a couple of scientist friends of mine who said, “I don’t believe in man-made global warming either. So why do you classify me with the sleezeballs of the global warming ilk?”

Good question.

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- Detroit paperboy
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 12:12am
  Well , if it’s true, then I blame the Chinese ………they have all of our manufacturing.
  
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styxman65
Posted on August 8, 2012 at 12:01am
These scientist are liberal in their thinking. When liberals think of something, they are so blind in their beliefs they they manufacture data to prove their point and they ignore real data when it contradicts them.”example” last week they said Greenland is losing all of it’s ice due to global warming, they ignored the fact that for that last 10,000 years records have shown this happens every 150 years or so……. This scientist said he has shown it is getting hotter, but evidence in tree rings suggest it was hotter over a 100 years ago. LIBERAL….. they hate guns, but ignore the fact that everywhere they got them banned, gun crime has risen.

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- Stoic one
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 4:47am
  I believe that these scientists REALLY just follow the money. They swallow their pride do the science and then draw their conclusions based on how they will get more money. this would explain how such narrow and/or selective data sets are used. It is not due to a lack of computing power.
  
  data set as a whole says “Nothing conclusive here”–this equals –> no money…..unemployed scientist
  
  “Interpretation” of same “Yes there seems to be (or more specific)” this equals MONEY…scientist buys new house.
  
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- historyguy48
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 10:46am
  Stoic, are you saying that global warming scientists are like a whore? Pay them and they will do whatever you want?
  If thats they case, then perhaps we should pay them to do a snuff film. That way we won’t have to put up with their nonsense any more.
  
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- testandverify
  Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:07am
  You are 100% correct! Only one other thing should be highlighted are the Liberal colleges and schools that they were educated in and now work in. Parents pay attention to where you send your childern; you could be turning them into a loser like James Hansen; who is quickly becoming completely discredited on the world stage!
  
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psadie
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:56pm
This is plain idiocy!

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Timetolearn
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:42pm
It is incomprehensible to me that any scientist (or any government for that matter) can actually believe that they can influence global temperature when we are but one of billions of planets (maybe trillions or far more) in the universe that moves on an eliptical path around our sun which is part of our larger solar system which also moves, sometimes closer and sometimes further from other galaxies.

Really? You can control that?

It is my firm belief that all they want to do is dupe us into making them richer given that most of them have already invested in money making schemes like all the carbon exchanges around that want to steal more money from those of us who have worked all our lives and give it to those who have never worked but will likely vote for them. I just don’t see the reason (rationale) in paying for carbon dioxide that all of us mamals exhale. A tax on breathing is not only ludicrous, it’s inhuman. And if it really were a reality, all humans should be taxed. It should not be a pretext for taking money from some to give to others at the discretion of who is in power. You never know who might next be in power.

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- wvernon1981
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 12:00am
  You seriously have no clue how ignorant you are on the subject.
  
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- pdw
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 12:50am
  I am 76 and I know their attempt is a Crock.
  
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- oicu814me2
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 1:17am
  Billion planets moving arouind out sun is a little high estimate. I think your off by about 999,999,992 but i could be wrong
  
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- Stoic one
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 4:54am
  You appear to have a whole bunch of different “things” jumbled together. Sadly those on the progressive side will use YOU to damn the rest of the rational minded.
  
  Try doing a LOT more research on the web… or elsewhere. it is time to learn…THE FACTS
  
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kcinco
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:26pm
I’d like to see this scientist’s home, how he travels, what kind of car he drives, etc. I would venture to guess he leaves a large “carbon footprint,” much like al gore.

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buttpatriot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:25pm
don’t trust scientists. trust beck and limbaugh.

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- wvernon1981
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 12:01am
  like
  
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- Psychosis
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 12:04am
  i dont recollect either one of them commenting on this recent ” study”
  
  its past your bedtime , go back to the basement
  
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indyjames
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:11pm
Miserably hot in summer and debilitatingly cold in the winter. Always has been always will be.

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- Stoic one
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 5:17am
  NO ..NOPE….ZIP…absolutely wrong.
  
  Maybe….. just where YOU have lived, in YOUR lifetime.
  
  Always….-> forever….. Data show ANY position on the planet at SOMETIME has been a temperature extreme for multiple years.
  
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Carlinpa
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:00pm
A bias and incompetent climate study by a liberal? nooooooooo are you kidding? That’s a first , right? ..

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cookcountypatriot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:42pm
the severly retarded keep pushing this crap even after if has been debunked…these people are insane….lol,,, they even think they can control the weather…

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- pdw
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 12:53am
  Sounds like Bill Gates is going to try even after he has been warned it could cause greater problems.
  
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oldduffer
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:40pm
Snow in So. Africa today! It’s got to be due to Global Warming! Oh wait, they’re saying rare so that means it happened before. Darn. I have another one. Las Vegas today was a sweltering 108! Wait.
August we go up to 113 and higher. I finally have a good one—-Follow the money to find the bull that’s doing all the methane and piles of manure. Hey Al you there?

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- Exrepublisheep
  Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:30pm
  Follow the money? You’ll find a ton of it, smelling of Koch, in the deniers pockets.
  
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polmom
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:16pm
Hmmm- first, Mueller, then R. Pielke(sp?) in Foreign Policy a couple of days ago, F. Krupp in WSJ today– all brimming with supposed rationality and new found “pragmatic” revelations about the economics of climate change mitigation. I smell a revamped strategy. They realize climate alarmism is a loser so now we have a kindler, gentler approach to global tax and control of energy. Same song, different tune.

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grickm
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:06pm
Hansen has been a political scientist for decades. He was for global cooling (in the 70′s) before he was for global warming.

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purecolorartist
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:03pm
This guy should be fired from NASA, he is an embarrassment. I’m sorry, but he doesn’t know what he is talking about. I am an artist and I think I know more than him about Global Warming er Climate Change er Climate Disruption er Climate Weirdness. This guy should be arrested for the mess he has created.

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progressiveslayer
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:02pm
The warmer cultists can read this to but will simply dismiss it because it doesn’t align with their religion.http://fathersforlife.org/articles/gunter/greenhousedebunked.htm

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- Puddle Duck
  Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:12pm
  Heres another excellent article…read the comments section as well…
  
  http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/the_perspective_of_a_lifetime_on_atmospheric_modeling.html
  
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- Stoic one
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 5:51am
  Puddle Duck
  
  The comments are FANTASTIC!
  
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vtxphantom
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:54pm
How much federally funded grant monies does Hansen get? All Grant money is given to prove global warming, not for independent, non biased study.

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Fatheroftwo
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:53pm
Summer = HOT

Winter = COLD

Take to me again when; Winter = HOT

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TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:46pm
I used to have scientists that believe in the fraud of man-made global warming on my radio show. I grew weary of their lies and pretense and no longer do I chat with them. I always asked them, “Do believe in God” and those who didn’t get upset at me for asking ‘such a personal question’ told me they did not. I was never surprised at their answer but I was glad to allow them to show their ignorance.

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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:52pm
  Tron, what time to you do your interviews, Mountain time.?
  
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- TRONINTHEMORNING
  Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:01pm
  TRON TALK is on from 9a to 10a mtn. Still working on a new website/stream. But it’s 1040AM in the Springs and heard throughout southern CO, KS, and New Mexico. And to continue to shamlessly plug my show, upcoming guests will be John Sununu, Gov. Scott Walker, Ed Klein, Bernie Goldberg, and a bunch of other decent folks. Trying to get Obama but he never answers the phone!
  
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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:09pm
  I have the radio app, I will be listening at 9am. That is usually a break between meetings anyway.
  
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- TRONINTHEMORNING
  Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:20pm
  @DARMOK
  
  Let me know if you are able to tune in; you can email me at tronradio@yahoo.com
  
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- Puddle Duck
  Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:22pm
  Good luck with the show Tron, keep swinging for the fence I say !!!
  
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- wvernon1981
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 12:03am
  I’m not sure why anyone would listen to your show with such an arrogant overestimation of your own knowledge.
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 10:03am
  The answer is everyone on this site loves shows like this, people who are level-headed and look at the facts, weigh them out and are relaxed, calm and collected don’t have shows or for the most part even look at sites like this. His show will do quite well because of that.
  
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- CapitalismWorks
  Posted on August 9, 2012 at 7:28pm
  My mother-in-law worked in a science lab, and refused to believe anything that couldn’t be proven in a laboratory. Including God. The day came when my wife and I stood together looking at her dead body, and through her tears I heard my wife quietly and sadly say to her deceased mother “well mom, do you believe now?”
  
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Wango
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:45pm
Conservatives and science. Just don’t quite connect.

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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:53pm
  Yeah because libs don’t have an agenda,pure as the driven snow lol
  
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- sWampy
  Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:05pm
  Oh come on, there are a hell of a lot more conservative scientists than liberal ones. Most of the liberals out there are into art, lawyering, and prostitution. The few liberals “scientists” just can’t do science, so they work in universities, and the government pais them to produce results they ask for. I come across these guys all the time, using my hpc’s to do their calculations, and when they aren’t getting the results they want, first they blame the computers, then when shown they are working correctly, they throw out data, till the results they expected are produced. The conservative scientists work for companies doing real work, inventing new medicines, medical devices, types of radar, reactors, electronics, etc.
  
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- MrButcher
  Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:05pm
  @wango
  
  Neil de Grasse Tyson would beg to differ with your claim.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7Q8UvJ1wvk
  
  Republicans and Conservatives LOVE science.
  
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- FNGRNFAN
  Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:09pm
  This is one of the guys that got caught in the emails trying to cover there tracks in a fraud. Just becaus he went and got a degree and a grant with a pretty moving picture does not make it science.
  
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- thx1138v2
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 12:29am
  Conservatives like results that are verifiable through testing, e.g. logical examination of phenomena.
  
  Liberals like emotion (fear in the case of man made global warming). Who’s to say what about someone else’s emotions. Emotions are variable from day to day so have no way to be verified. Kind of like global warming. There is nowhere to do a controlled study of what happens with the current human population and technologies but without the carbon dioxide..
  
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JACKTHETOAD
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:43pm
Oh, no! Not the cherries too! Aaahhhhhh…

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Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:43pm
I haven’t seen this many cherries picked since rush week at the annual 72 Virgins and a Suicide Bomber convention.

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- JACKTHETOAD
  Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:00pm
  I wonder what the appetizers would be at a suicide bombers convention. Inch-and-a-halfers? Ladyfingers? Where the 7734 would you find 72 virgins anywhere these days? So many questions…
  
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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:06pm
  Mainly you find them at ComicCon.
  
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- stumpy68
  Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:35pm
  the sheep pen
  
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- oldduffer
  Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:41pm
  Have you seen some of these women? That’s why the Burquas and still virgins.
  
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progressiveslayer
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:42pm
The warmer cultists are an irrational lot and ‘the godfather’ is the king nut job looking to cash in.

For some sanity on this topic try this. http://climatedepot.com/ The ‘god father’ is thoroughly debunked. Man made global warming is a fraud designed to make a few trillionaires and the rest of us serfs.

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Walkabout
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:41pm
Drought in North America. Floods in Europe & China. Does that sound like Global warning?

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- Wango
  Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:45pm
  Yeah, it does.
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:46pm
  Sounds like nature
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:40pm
  PROGRESSIVESLAYER, Yes it does sound like nature. Sort of reminds you of similar things that occurred in the bible.
  
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- pdw
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 1:04am
  The weather here on earth has always been changing and always will so get use to the process. Most of the global warming is from all the hot air coming out of politicians mouths and we just cannot get them to shut up. We are the guardians of our earth but not by donating money to thieves! Icebergs break off and cool the oceans then we get global cooling again. They are the earths thermostat.
  
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- Twobyfour
  Posted on August 8, 2012 at 5:14am
  Warning? Must be them Vogons, but I thought they simply did not issue any warnings, whatso-evah.
  
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thibx
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:38pm
they want money plain and simple and will lie, cheat whatever it takes.

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- Puddle Duck
  Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:31pm
  Agenda 21 is the ultimate goal. The climate change hoax is just one of the means being used towards that end (Agenda 21 sustainable growth protocol). That protocol calls for a drastic reduction of the planets population by any means necessary (an all of the above approach).
  
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cloudedpoliticalviews
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:37pm
Might want to ask Mr. Hansen if he is affiliated with Agenda 21 in some way…

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- Jenny Lind
  Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:48pm
  There ya go! Fits doesn’t it?
  
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