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Fort Hood Shooter’s Beard Puts Trial On Hold

Aug. 15, 2012 4:37pm Mytheos Holt

FORT HOOD, Texas (AP) — The trial for an Army psychiatrist charged in the deadly 2009 Fort Hood shooting has been put on hold while an appeals court considers his objections to being forcibly shaved.

Maj. Nidal Hasan had been scheduled to enter a plea Wednesday to charges in the attack at the Texas Army post, but all court proceedings were put on hold before he could do that.

Major Nidal Hasan Wont Shave His Beard, Putting The Trial of the Fort Hood Shooter On Hold

Nidal Hasan. Credit: AP

According to a defense motion, Hasan indicated he wanted to plead guilty for religious reasons. Hasan, 41, is an American-born Muslim.

But the judge, Col. Gregory Gross, said he could not accept a guilty plea on the 13 charges of premeditated murder. That’s because the charges carry death as the maximum punishment and the government is pursuing the death penalty in Hasan’s case. Hasan also is charged with 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder.

The trial that was to start Monday will be on hold until the Army appeals court rules on Hasan’s objection to being shaved. An appeals court order issued Wednesday that put the proceedings on hold gives the judge a week to respond.

Hasan’s attorneys have said he won’t shave because the beard he has grown in violation of Army regulations is an expression of his Muslim faith. But Gross said Hasan would be forcibly shaved at some point before the trial if he didn’t shave the beard himself. He said he wants Hasan in the courtroom during the court-martial to prevent a possible appeal on the issue if he is convicted.

At the start of Tuesday’s hearing, Gross once again found Hasan in contempt of court and fined him $1,000 for disobeying orders to shave. Hasan then was taken to a nearby room to watch the proceedings on a closed-circuit television, as he has done since growing the beard in June.

Gross previously delayed Hasan’s trial from March to June and then to August. On Tuesday, he refused defense attorneys’ request to delay the start of the trial again and said it would begin with jury selection as scheduled Monday.

Prosecutors have a 265-person witness list for Hasan’s trial, including a terrorism consultant who says the American-born Muslim meets several factors indicating he’s a home-grown terrorist.

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another pucker
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:24pm
Let’s remember this THING, until he is tried and convicted, continues to receive about $6,000 a month, his salary, tax payers money!
I say immediate dishonorable discharge. Than let’s just try him in the civilian court! Remember, it is Texas, we follow through with the death penalty!

XOXOXO

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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:32pm
  He is still a US Officer and should be compelled to wear his uniform and shave. If he refuses MPs should shave him and dress him by force. He should be Court Marshaled for this behavior. Is the entire US Army now a Army of queers? Are there no real men left in our military?
  
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- BrownWaterVet
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:38pm
  Yes, he continues to collect his pay & benefits. The government has determined that this is a case of “workplace violence”, not terrorism. The soldiers killed & wounded are not entitled to any medals or recognition as a result. Based on the background info that has come out so far on this guy & the shooting, how is this NOT terrorism? Why is the government so afraid to call this what it is, terrorism?
  
  Semper Fortis
  
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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:38pm
  If the present US Army is too cowardly to do what should be done, Let General Franks take over. I and many old retirees will volunteer to help Franks straiten out that Court Marshall.
  
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- Flag-Man
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:54pm
  The rules of the military say no facial ****, so what is the problem here?
  He is still in the Army. Shave him.
  Semper Fi
  
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- manjodad
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 6:07pm
  The government decided it was workplace violence? You mean Obama decided it was workplace violence. Shave him, wax him, burn it off, pluck it out. Do whatever needs to be done. He was a soldier when he started this, he will remain a soldier until they dishonorably discharge him and put him before a firing squad.
  
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- Altair
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 6:07pm
  Sad to say, Muffy… this is the case where General Casey said a greater casualty than the deaths this animal caused might be “diversity in the Army.”
  
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- RaeAnnR
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 6:18pm
  “At the start of Tuesday’s hearing, Gross once again found Hasan in contempt of court and fined him $1,000 for disobeying orders to shave. Hasan then was taken to a nearby room to watch the proceedings on a closed-circuit television, as he has done since growing the beard in June.”
  
  He should be find $1000 PER DAY until he does obey orders to shave. We would get our money back and then some… This POS forfeit his rights when he shot all of those people… This pansy a$$ judge needs to grow a few and get this done!
  
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- turkey13
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 6:30pm
  If they can’t hold him down and shave him, do it the simple way, have someone smear bacon drippings in his beard and then he won’t be able to get it off fast enough.
  
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- panache
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 6:38pm
  Just release him and put him in a barracks with a few dozen army guys. They will take care of the situation. Whoops, the razor slipped. Too bad………
  
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- MIBUGNU2
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 6:56pm
  Shouldn’t be too hard to slip some knock-out drops in this
  TUR*S food or drink and then shave his sorry azz like a
  Q-ball…it’s not rocket science. drop all the charges, say
  one..for murder, wash him in pigs blood and hang him..
  along with the rest of the Git-Mo residents, and knock off
  all this Liberal politically correct bullshi**..”Get Err’ Done”
  GOOD GAWD…………………………………………………..
  
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- DesdemonasCrew
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 8:08pm
  I say shave him. Right about shoulder level.
  
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- DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 9:43pm
  Handcuff him, shave every inch of his body, put lipstick and eye shadow on him, stick his fat rear end in a flowery sun dress and march him into the courtroom to be tried, convicted and put to death.
  
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- Jaycen
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 10:28pm
  @muffythetuffy
  
  You must’ve missed the article on the gay General. The answer to your question is “yes”.
  
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- dmerwin
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 10:56pm
  Just add insubordination and mutiny to the charges and proceed. I believe the military still has the death penalty. In a court martial this could take 20 minutes and justice rendered by sunset.
  
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- poorrichard09
  Posted on August 16, 2012 at 8:51am
  @Muffy: court martial him? Big deal-he’s already got all those death sentences pending. Forget the Army regs, try this pos and execute him!
  BTW-ever notice how ALL these mass killers have that crazed look in their eyes?
  
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- StonyBurk
  Posted on August 16, 2012 at 8:57am
  Let’s not forget either–all those years when he was pretending to be an Officer and a gentleman and merely promoted the HATE of Islam in his power point programs and such– it was ok for the Muslim to live and to slay his fellow soldiers and wage jihad against them with no beard–but now that he is on trial suddenly he doesn’t want to die without a beard? What a pantload of pig dung.
  
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- Bluefish49
  Posted on August 16, 2012 at 10:00am
  Sedate him and shave that nasty thing off….case closed…..dammit man….he killed American Service Men and he is treated like a foreign national on amnesty.
  
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- ahall925
  Posted on August 16, 2012 at 10:46am
  Sadly, he is being Court Martialed by the Military. When given the death penalty, he will be transfered to Fort Leavenworth. The death warrant has to be signed by the President. So you know it will never happen.
  
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- Gremlin1974
  Posted on August 18, 2012 at 5:58pm
  No civilian court. I want this trash to Hang, period.
  
  Message to Mitt Romney, within 24 hours after you win the election order the Justice department to officially review the charges in this case and have it classified as it should have been from the start, as an overt and open act of terrorism. Heck, even the accused says it was Terrorism for crying out loud.
  
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Dismayed Veteran
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:23pm
Force shave him and get on with Army business.

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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:35pm
  The Army would never tolerate some white male acting like this. MPs would be ordered to shave him with a dull razor and scrub him down with a scrub brush. Is our whole US Army now a bunch of sniffling homosexuals?
  
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- Msgt Ret
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 8:07pm
  Yep!
  
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- TAXEVERYONE
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 9:19pm
  Would the Army like some help shaving him?
  
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- devildogger
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 11:22pm
  No Muffy, those who serve are not unable to perform the task. This goat f*cking subhuman just needs to be sprayed clean with a firehose. The military is NOT a democratic organization. It is a dictatorship. Maj. hasan has no rights he serves under the UCMJ, not the Constitution. Tie him down, anesthetize him and shave him. And shave him every damn day. And when he is executed for his crimes, bury him with a freshly killed pig. Just like BlackJack Pershing did in the Phillipines
  
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- PATTY HENRY
  Posted on August 16, 2012 at 1:01pm
  Add your comments @ TAXEVERYONE I’ll help!
  
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- IIIcorp
  Posted on August 16, 2012 at 3:15pm
  Start fining him $1000 per day that he has the beard. His Attorneys will get him to shave when they see their fees going away. Muffy the real men in the Armed forces have stripes on their sleeves. Once the gold goes on the hat brim, they become politically correct wimps.
  
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- Gremlin1974
  Posted on August 18, 2012 at 5:59pm
  Force shave him, give him a BLT for breakfast and lets get this court thing on.
  
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bcope01
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:13pm
Shave the SOB and get on with the trail. Recommend death by firing squad.

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clockwatcher
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:12pm
He should get Islamic justice just like in the peace loving people of Syria, you know tie the guy up and throw him off a 4 story building. After all is the way of the religion of peace.

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- KenInIL
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 6:41pm
  Why has it taken 3 years to “bring him to trial”. With dozens of witnesses, why do the LIARS need so long to prepare, they should be tried for incompetence. He was a serving US officer, he obviously wasn’t nuts. This is a military court, he committed treason, execute the traitor.
  
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Old Truckers
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:10pm
How would you like to be the barber who is assigned to shave that flea infested beard?

Remember, you can’t ‘slip’ with that razor, or you could then get the death penalty for murder. Nice huh?

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- Walkabout
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:31pm
  How is it that his beard delayed the trial last month & the month before that?
  
  He should have been to trial way before this.
  
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- Patriot Z
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:46pm
  thats easy..no need to kill them…id just forget the shave and go for a wax. fing the biggest gayest hairdresser and give this mussie the brazillian of a lifetime
  
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FEMALL
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:06pm
One of the soldiers he murdered was pregnant.Why is he not charged with 14 counts? I say put the trial on hold until after November, charge him with terrorism and put him in general population at Leavenworth.

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- JoJoStarbuck173
  Posted on August 16, 2012 at 12:12am
  Excellent idea, and would end up saving the taxpayers a considerable amount of money and time on the appeals that he is sure to get after he is found guilty.
  
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ElChupaCabraDeUSA
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:03pm
on second thought, I volunteer to remove his beard….with a ball bat

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- RossPoldark
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:10pm
  He should be forced to have a bikini wax all over his body…painfully slow!!!!
  
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:02pm
“the judge, Col. Gregory Gross, said he could not accept a guilty plea on the 13 charges of premeditated murder. That‘s because the charges carry death as the maximum punishment and the government is pursuing the death penalty in Hasan’s case.”
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Couldn’t accept a guilty plea? How does a judge get to steer how the trial goes? If the defendant wants to plead guilty, why does a judge object? Personally, I think he should be put in front of a firing squad.

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- The-Monk
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:25pm
  Hi Anonymous T. Irrelevant,
  
  I think it has something to do with the death penalty can only be recommended by a jury and not a judge. So the judge wants a jury trial because the prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.
  
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- damnedifwedont
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:41pm
  I’d love to see Allen West in charge of this BS. Domestic terrorist? No way. Islamic TERRORIST
  
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- MIBUGNU2
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 7:41pm
  @DAMN
  
  Col. ALLEN WEST would be the MAN for this trial……OORAH !!
  I think Col. West did the right thing in Iraq.. saved some of his
  Troops lives, by his actions, a true HERO in my eyes..Semper Fi..
  
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ElChupaCabraDeUSA
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:02pm
Can someone just give him a shaving cream pie in the face filled with NAIR?

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ZAP
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:01pm
Hang him by beard until dead

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cookcountypatriot
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:59pm
i dont want him to shave..i want him to rot..bearded or not

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sgtbrown01
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:56pm
Lets get past this silly distraction the judge should simply sign off on a no shaiving “****” and get this prosecution done…..who cares if he has a beard….convict and hang this terrorist so we can move on to something more productive

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Old Truckers
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:56pm
This is really ridiculous, why does he even need a trial?
So many people saw him shooting his victims, and who cares if he is shaven or not?
Just let justice prevail for once without all the lawyer inspired drama.

The “justice” system is a joke as far as I am concerned.

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Tri-ox
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:56pm
Just behead the stinkin’ terrorist already – stop wasting time!

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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:14pm
  Don’t be in such a dang hurry. First we need to give him an hour alone with Barney Frank. Then we cover him in bacon and booze and porn. THEN we hang him.
  
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ellietoo
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:53pm
Oh, wow. I can hear the White House screaming now! “What ever happened to religious liberty in this country?” Shave the guy and get it over with. The people who were slaughtered by this guy deserve better.

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justangry
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:51pm
TRAIL?! Why waste our time and money? I don’t care if he shaves between now and when they stick the needle in his arm.

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- Too_Far_Gone
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:58pm
  Take his whole head off and save a razor !
  
  They’re use to that treatment, heII they made it a standard ..
  
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- hayesstephen
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:07pm
  He certainly deserves death no doubt about that. In his case keep him in prison for the rest of his unnatural life. I think he is paralyzed from the waist down. As Marshal Rooster Cogburn said, ” those boys can be pretty rough on you gimps.” I’ve probably misquoted him but you get the idea. To me to lose one’s freedom is far worse than death, living behind locked gates and doors is a living hell to me. Yahweh grant Paradise to all the dead, and comfort their families. Comfort, Heal the wounded.
  
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- momrules
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:11pm
  Hi Just…….I want him to get the needle NOW. This farce has gone on too long and Hasan seems to be running things, not the judge. Same as with the Gitmo prisoners.
  
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- Hugh Williams
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 7:11pm
  According to a defense motion, Hasan indicated he wanted to plead guilty for religious reasons. Hasan, 41, is an American-born Muslim.
  But the judge, Col. Gregory Gross, said he could not accept a guilty plea on the 13 charges of premeditated murder. That‘s because the charges carry death as the maximum punishment and the government is pursuing the death penalty in Hasan’s case. Hasan also is charged with 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder.
  Grant his wish, accept his guilty plea and execute him! Don’t waste any more of the taxpayers’ dollars on a forced trial.
  
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Nanaswords
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:48pm
Beard or no beard … Get this person sentenced before O’s lame duck period !!! Do not want to see this one walk !!! There is no question as to his deliberate actions to kill our men and women at Fort Hood !!! Is this the same image as saddam hussein…for sure…Should end the same as s.h. did !!!

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- sgtbrown01
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:50pm
  we are both right on this one the beard is a distraction and a delay tactic,…… who is the prosecutor on this case “Barney Fife”…..get it done convict and kill this guy before obumer lets him off the hook.
  
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Ranger45
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:48pm
Interesting….so this “workplace violence” was motivated by “religious reasons.” Smells surprisingly like jihadist terrorism to me.

I say sit on him and shave him with a dull blade.

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Steel Monkey
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:48pm
How about using bacon grease and a dull razor! He is a piece of **** and deserves nothing! If it was a Jewish rabb, they would cut his beard! Stuff a pork chop up his ****!

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capitalismrocks
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:48pm
He is a (dishonorable) office in the military and MUST abide by the code of conduct over religion first, the beard comes off !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Knock him out and shave it off !!!

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- Too_Far_Gone
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:31pm
  Hang him then shave it off ..
  
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- HumbleMan
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 6:17pm
  In G. Washington’s time, he would have simply been shot by firing squad. By the way, Mao or Joe Stalin would executed him. If you are military, no matter what side, an act like this man committed is not tolerated. Do you have to have a degree in law to see this?
  
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Madmilo
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:47pm
Take a straight razor and shave it off right at the neck. (Head and all).

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- Seth Patriot
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:50pm
  Damn. You beat me to it Milo.
  
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- iampraying4u
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:52pm
  to beard are not to beard
  
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lukerw
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:45pm
Mission: Shave your Beard… Refusal to obey Orders: Execution!

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let us prey
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:44pm
Trim it with a machete and then stone him.

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- Welcome Black Carter
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 9:54pm
  You want to put a dent in the national debt? Sell tickets… the winner gets to shave him. I’m in.
  
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Champflyer
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:42pm
He didn’ have trouble shaving before he decided to be a cold blooded killer so take the SOB and cut his freaking beard off, and DAM his religion!

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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:45pm
  I agree, cut his head off. Oh wait, you said beard didn’t you? That too.
  
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- team1blazer
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:48pm
  Amen! Stop screwing around with this sorry POS.
  
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kaydeebeau
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:40pm
hand cuff, sedate and dry shave this b@$tard….

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- dman78
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:50pm
  don’t sedate, shave him with Nair as the shaving cream and a rusty dull razor. strap his head down, we don’t what him to be cut, badly.
  
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- Champflyer
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:51pm
  Amen, or use a Weedeater!
  
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- momrules
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:53pm
  Yes! Do it, shave the SOB, get him tried, convicted and executed. This has gone on long enough.
  
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- kaydeebeau
  Posted on August 15, 2012 at 4:56pm
  I should have also said – make sure the barber is suffering from the DTs…..
  
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