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MSNBC’s Chris Matthews has made it clear his goal this election fall: He will be the one trying to remind everyone that birthers exist within the Republican party  (despite the fact that it was a theory introduced by Hilary Clinton in 2008). And it seems he will go to great lengths to do it. Take this interview with Condoleeza Rice on Wednesday.

After Rice wowed the crowed with a sans-teleprompter speech, MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell scored an interview with her. During it, Matthews seemed unhappy with the questions and at one point awkwardly (and to the seeming frustration of Mitchell) interrupted Mitchell to interject a question about — birtherism.

“Andrea, Andrea, can I ask a question?” he asked. “It’s Chris Matthews. Could you ask the Secretary — her speech was so overwhelmingly positive — but was it kind of a rejoinder to all the birtherism and the narrowness she’s heard in their party?”

Mitchell then repeated the question, but only after Rice gave a puzzled look during the period of silence.

“Well, I think on both sides of the aisle, quite frankly, we’re hearing some voices for America to pull back,” Rice responded. “It would be a shame if America pulls back, because we’ve done so much good in the world. … That was the theme of the speech, and I had a great audience. It was well received.”

Later she added:

“The birther movement is an extreme. There are extremes on both sides of the political spectrum. The great majority here believe that we are one America.”

You can watch the awkward interjection below:

On Monday, Matthews drew the ire of many for his rude interaction with GOP party Chairman Reince Priebus. That scuffle was also over Matthews waving the birther flag, accusing Priebus of the “foreignization” of Obama. Priebus eventually fired back with some shots at Matthews and said an MSNBC representative was trying to smooth over Matthews’s actions.

(H/T: Business Insider)

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