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Aug. 31, 2012 8:15am Billy Hallowell

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Bible Believers Protest Against Mitt Romneys Mormon Faith at the RNC

Fabian Calvo (left) and Reuben Israel (right) (Photo Credit: YouTube)

On Wednesday, blogger and vlogger Fabian Calvo caught up with the “Bible Believers,” a group of controversial Christians who have distinguished themselves for their protests against Islam, among other subjects.

But this week, the troop has apparently turned its attention to the Republican National Convention (RNC), where its members are taking a stand against presidential candidate Mitt Romney and his The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints religious adherence.

Calvo caught up with Ruben Israel, one of the faith leaders who founded the controversial group. As the clip unfolds, Israel can be heard saying, ”As a right-wing conservative myself, you’ve offended me,” in response to party adherents who are willingly embracing Romney as the nominee. It is the candidate’s faith that is at the center of the protester’s angst.

Here’s a portion of the transcript from Israel’s controversial comments to Calvo:

“Unfortunately, I am a right wing conservative and I have issues with our party saying that this man is going to represent us. I think he’s a fantastic business man. I think he’s got morality. But when it comes to religion, this is what Mormons wear [Israel holds up Mormon temple undergarments]. And so, I’m waving the dirty laundry of the Mormon church. And you cannot separate a man’s religion from who he is. It’s like saying he’s not a Republican…can we trust somebody who’s going to get in a pickle, that’s going to pray to a God who told him to wear this [again referring to the undergarments]…we find nowhere in the Bible where we’re supposed to wear this stuff.”

Calvo went on to ask Israel about Glenn Beck’s faith as well. Interestingly, the protester avoided delving into commentary about Beck, although he did dub him “a converted Mormon.” Instead, he turned to radio host Rush Limbaugh, whom he said “has no Christianity,” citing his multiple marriages as purported evidence (Limbaugh isn’t a Mormon).

Watch the video, below:

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Individualism
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:51am
also its dangerous to have a preacher of a book with racist and anti semetic quotes in it. he could be the next hitler for all you know.

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- Pierreduski
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 9:16am
  you my friend are not very intelligent. Make your own opinions and decisions. Read the book for your self. #bigboypants
  
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- barber2
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 10:15am
  INDI is an atheist who thinks that the Mormon issue provides a good wedge for the Divide the Dumb Conservatives / Re – elect Obama Campaign .
  
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- grimmster
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 11:39am
  No, indi here is encinom, the Blazes idiot, just wish he would go missing……..
  
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- davidm313
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 3:23pm
  Jesus Died for All.
  
  “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for ALL, to be testified in due time” (1Tim 2:5-6).
  
  “And He Himself is the forgiveness [propitiation] for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world” (1John 2:2).
  
  Now it is due time that everyone knows that Christ died for all, not just Christians. Jesus came to save all those of this age (1John 4:14).
  
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BlackCrow
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:51am
There have always been kooks and goofballs but now the MSM is turning over every rock looking for their kindred sprites..

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tmansc
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:51am
You truly are an idiot. By the way, I’m NOT a Morman.

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AUsername
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:51am
They also blood tithe, blood atone and blood libel them.

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mikenleeds
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:49am
this loser is so sad because he can t find a story so he s doing his best to make up his own story ,, liberals are just to sad

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Eastinfection
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:49am
Wonder if he’s going to show up at the DNC waving a little banana hammock (speedo) like all the euro- socialist men wear to the beach?

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- SocialistSlayer
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 9:18am
  Well he does appear to have a European Man Purse!
  
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Individualism
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:49am
there basically like pitbulls, they act like saints and than suddenly they back stab you and the devil comes out, at that point you find out there sociopaths, you just can’t trust those folks.

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- javasport
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 9:07am
  I don’t bother listening to uneducated dolts who can’t tell the difference between they’re, there and their. What are you 10?
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 9:23am
  I don’t believe in the whole magical underpants. It is similar to magical focus in fantasy genre. It is something that forces you to think about your chastity or fidelity. It is just a constant reminder. Does it always work? I think not. But I bet the Mormon batting record at fidelity & chastity is somewhat higher than the norm.
  
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- Jezcruzen
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 12:30pm
  Taking into consideration, INDIVIDUALISM, your ignorant portrayal of pit bulls, I can only deduce that the remainder of your comment is just as ignorant.
  
  Personally, I care not one wit what sort of underwear Romney or any other man wears as long as they keep it to themselves. If his religion demands he wear panties from Victoria’s Secret, I don’t care. I only care about flushing that toilet in Washington, D.C. of whats been clogging the plumbing for the past four years!
  
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- Locked
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 1:00pm
  “there basically like pitbulls, they act like saints and than suddenly they back stab you and the devil comes out”
  
  Man, if I had a pitfull that could wield a knife, stab someone, and have the devil come out? I would take that act on the road: major cash in that.
  
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- pudssweetie
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 1:57pm
  @Indi, didn’t I just school you on this issue last night on another article? The problem with you and people like you, is you only believe in what you want, not what is the actual truth. You are the perfect example of someone who refuses to hear the truth because you hate to admit when you are wrong and don’t like to be proven wrong.
  I shouldn’t have to explain things to you, since you refuse to do any REAL research, but I will. When a Mormon goes to the Temple, White Garments are worn as the Temple is a Sacred place that is Holy and Pure. The color white is the color of Purity and is why Women typically wear White when they get married. Many Mormons also go through a special Ceremony where they commit their lives to following Gods commandments and using those commandment in their daily lives. After this Ceremony they wear the White Under Garments as a reminder of their commitment.
  If you had just Googled this you would have found this information yourself, but then again it takes wanting to know the truth and is something you have a hard time with.
  
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watersRpeople
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:46am
Yet on another note, I would think people would prefer a President who is religious, and actually believes in a God, over a President who is oh lets say Catholic but just pretends they are religious because out of seeing it as the best way to secure themselves and their assets.

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who_is_john_galt_in_RI
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:46am
this story just wasted 5 mins of my life… beck you owe me 5 mins…

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- watersRpeople
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:49am
  I’ll give you back your 5 minutes – plus a credit of 55 minutes. Go to a field and think about the Dandelions.
  
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- troymac20
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:55am
  I see your point…but the idiot was good for a chuckle.
  
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HOOT_OWL
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:43am
Coming from a guy, that if I had to take a guess goes commando .What a dolt.

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javasport
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:41am
Anyone who starts off a conversation with “I’m a right winger” isn’t. This guy is a douche.

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objectivetruth
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:41am
This is just over the top.I’ve never in my life heard such stupidity.Lets just say I have a little insight and know for a fact this man is full of it.Maybe someone told him this and be believes it to be true.Personally, I find anyone waving a set of underwear around [and it isn't in connection to a crime] to be suspect and disgraceful.
I’m aware that many aren’t familiar with the mormon religion.To many it seems a cult based on a modern day found set of scriptures.From an intelluctal standpoint I see how they believe this.From a spiritual viewpoint there soul is lost.When you stop believing that god works in mysterious ways [including finding modern day scriptures] you have lost your compass.
If you want to complain about romney on his proven track record thats one thing.To make it about the mormon religion isn’t the way to make a valid point.

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- javasport
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 9:05am
  Like Huckabee said, there is only one proclaimed Evangelical running on either of the tickets and he’s been ruining the country for the past 3.5 years. I think I will go for something different. I find it funny that Evangelicals would rather burn the country to the ground and risk losing their religious freedoms than elect someone who shows more Christlike attributes than they do. A bunch of Pharisees, they are who wouldn’recognize their savior standing in front of them, unless he resembled a pictured painted in their family Bible. Well surprise! You are exactly like the Pharasees of old who killed Jesus for not appearing Jewish enough. As Zig Ziggler would say, you need a checkup from the neck up.
  
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- SingerGuy
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 11:19am
  I love people who know how to quote Zig Ziglar. :-D
  
  “Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude.”
  
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- rt elms
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 10:29pm
  I thought that was a John Maxwell quote.
  
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love labs
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:39am
Hey dufus what type religion doesthe pres practice {behind closed doors} I DON:T MEAN TO JUDGE BUT HIS POSIS

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DeOppressoLiber
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:38am
I wonder if the DOJ CRS helped him put his protest together and high five each other? The DOJ is with the OQS crowd, look at the link below.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/29/Is-Holder-s-DOJ-Community-Organizing-Occupy-Activists-at-the-RNC

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SingerGuy
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:38am
“Speak unto the children of Israel, and bid them that they make them fringes in the borders of their garments throughout their generations, and that they put upon the fringe of the borders a ribband of blue: And it shall be unto you for a fringe, that ye may look upon it, and remember all the commandments of the Lord, and do them; and that ye seek not after your own heart and your own eyes, after which ye use to go a whoring: That ye may remember, and do all my commandments, and be holy unto your God.” (Numbers 15:38-40)

To fulfill the commandment of this scripture, strictly observant Jewish men commonly wear a special four-cornered garment, similar to a poncho, called a tallit katan. It is worn under the shirt, with the tzitzit (fringes) hanging out so they can be seen. If you’ve ever seen a Jewish man with strings hanging out of his clothing, this is probably what you were seeing.

Mormon garments are very similar in nature, but are worn completely out of view. They are sacred to members of the LDS Church, as they serve as a reminder of covenants made in their temples. What this man is doing is mocking another faith’s most sacred beliefs. What’s the point? You don’t believe what Mormons do? We got it! At least have the basic human dignity to debate on the battlefield of ideas and leave the sacred symbols of a religion alone. It only shows the weakness of his argument that he has to resort to sensational debasement in this manner.

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- Polarized America
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:52am
  I’m not sure if it’s true, but i read somewhere that when Ann married Mitt, her parents were not allowed to go to the wedding because they were not Mormons ..If true, what’s that all about !! what’s the deal
  it sounds so disrespectful.
  
  I’m not sure about other faiths, but i do know that to be Married in a Catholic Church that both the Bride & Groom must be Catholic but anyone can attend the wedding
  
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- Pierreduski
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 9:15am
  Yeah If it is true they are not LDS they could not have attended the wedding in our “sacred” temple. Its “sacred” and as such requires that the people who enter make certain sacrifices and commitment to enter. If Ann’s parents were not ready to make those commitments and sacrifices then no.
  
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- LibertyGoddess
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 9:42am
  Polarized,
  Read their history. They did not marry in the temple to begin with. They had a civil ceremony and her parent’s were that.
  
  With that said, people need to get over the “not being allowed in the temple” for weddings. There is a celebration after for everyone. Even those who go in the temple, there is no wedding attire, just goofy temple clothes. There is no hoopla. It is a 10 minute ordinance and the couple is sent back outside. Couples usually jump into their attire to have pictures taken on the grounds.
  
  If couples wanted to be more mindful of nonmembers, they could easily make the reception reflect whatever it is the others feel are missing. Just because the ceremony doesn’t reflect traditional ceremonies, doesn’t mean nonmembers are not welcomed.
  
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- Polarized America
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 11:20am
  LIBERTYGODDESS…thank you …and yes i should do more research, but i like to talk to people such as yourself, it’s more personal — thanks
  
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- MacPharlan
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 11:56am
  My wife’s grandma could not attend our marriage, but as pointed out it is a short ceremony where you are married/sealed for time and all eternity. It is sacred and done in the temple, and only those that live a certain standard can go in (even members of the church).
  
  Then you come out and have a reception, take pictures join in the family fun. Marriage is a sacred ordinance to us, not just a civil ceremony, so it is done in the temple.
  
  This person just makes me sad, and does not represent the America I love
  
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- Romans828
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:34pm
  Polarized America– dead wrong. I’ve been married to a Catholic for 40 years and I am a Protestant. Maybe what you “know” about Ann Romney is just as accurate, hmmmm????
  
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JawaJam
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:36am
All religions have some type of vestments that they consider holy. I wonder if this guy has the same problem with a Jewish tallism- sorry if I misspelled it, the Pope’s miter or the turban that Sikhs wear?

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- loriann12
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:42am
  From what I understand, the “magic underwear” protects them from Demons. Doesn’t sound much difference than the Catholics blessing water and crosses to protect from Demons. As a Christian, i believe the Holy Spirit that dwells within me will protect me from being inhabited by a demon, and to rid them, I need only invoke Jesus’ name. I cross is just a symbol to tell everyone else I’m a Christian. To each his own. The Native Americans burned sage to get rid of demons.
  
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- SingerGuy
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:55am
  “From what I understand, the “magic underwear” protects them from Demons.”
  
  You understand completely incorrectly. Garments serve as a personal reminder of covenants made in LDS Temples. Why is that so hard to understand for so many people?
  
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Steelhead
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:35am
Christians fighting over religion, how typical.They are just like the Taliban in that respect.

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- SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 9:01am
  @ STEEL…I’m afraid your statement is way to narrow to the point of being an inaccurate reflection of the world we live in. EVERYONE battles over what they believe is the truth, whether atheist or christian, liberal or conservative, pro-life or pro-choice (I hate that label), it is not any way contained to just the religious. Your statement, in fact, is a veiled and subtle assertion of your own position based in what you see as truth. Therefore, to highlight this episode to implicate the religious in batteling over their version of the truth is hypocritical in my opinion as EVERYONE does the same to one degree or another. Thank you….
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 9:27am
  Reuben Israel is a poser. He is actually gay. As such he is a very unhappy individual trying to bring down people who do not embrace his lifestyle choice.
  
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Jenny Lind
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:33am
Takes all kinds, doesn’t it?

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- TEXASGRANNY73
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 6:23pm
  @JennyLind Never did get back to you about the tea. Or did I? I have some tea from Boston about 3 years old (a gift from a friend) but aren’t you scared of me? I’m scared of me. Weren’t you in Texas one time something about a hanging judge? Or was that Lily Langtry?
  
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Coralchristie
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:30am
Look who we give air time to. Ignore the idiots.

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- Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:33am
  Actually let there be a small time (emphesis on small amount) for these idiots to remove all doubts about their idiocy before the world.
  
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RightUnite
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:30am
This is exactly what some left wing nutcase would come up with….

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pwatkins
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:29am
This man can say he is a conservative, but I say he is one of Obama’s tools wagging underwear for attention from the media. I think we will see more nuts like this in the vey near future.

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- Blackhawk1
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 9:20am
  No conservative I know would run around the RNC with a pair of dirty underwear protesting. Sounds more like just another liberal that has lost their marbles since realizing Obama is getting shown the door.
  
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- pudssweetie
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 2:16pm
  And as big as they looked, they are probably his dirty underwear that he took out of his dirty close hamper.
  
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- pudssweetie
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 2:18pm
  Ooops meant clothes, thought I had better correct my spelling error before I get busted by the spelling police ;)
  
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RightUnite
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:29am
Not buying that he’s a right wing conservative. I’m calling BS.

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soybomb315_II
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:25am
lol – watch out! Mitt Romney will have you arrested for a hate crime

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- pdw
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:38am
  Funny how hate is a badge of honor. Slander has become a past time for hate monger.
  
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contkmi
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:24am
Dude, we’ve got a socialist in the WH and you’re worried about underwear? Seek help from a qualified professional.

Sheesh, where do people come up with this stuff?

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- Copper Catfish
  Posted on September 1, 2012 at 9:13pm
  Looking at the lack of modesty in dress, I commend the Mormons for wearing Temple Garments and always covering them up with their clothing. I am so sick of seeing cleavage and knees in church!
  Why is everyone so obsessed with what kind of underwear Mormons wear? Sounds as if those who are ignorant of the Mormon faith (and who just repeat what everyone else says without checking it out for themselves) have some sort of underwear fetish.
  I highly recommend that everyone worship with the Mormons just once, for the complete 3 hours, and then give an informed opinion. As a Catholic (who wears a Scapular under her clothes), I was very impressed with their love for Jesus, and I have a LOT of respect for them. I will worship with them again.
  
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kickagrandma
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:22am
Oh, brother.

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- PeppermintCrush
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:33am
  I agree.. sort of funny how desperate they are. Has it really come to this? They are seriously waving underwear around now?? This is so ridiculous I can’t take it anymore. HURRY UP NOVEMBER!!
  
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- Steelhead
  Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:40am
  it just goes to show the tabloid nature of the Blaze, the editors just wallow in the mud so they can spread the dirt
  
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