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The Democratic Party may be getting a fair amount of attention this week — and not only because the political movement is hosting its national convention in Charlotte, North Carolina. Another point of focus has already been the contents — or the lack thereof — present in the 2012 Democratic Party Platform.
Earlier today, we told you that the document fails to mention Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, a proclamation that was previously touted by the party. And now, in an even more shocking revelation, CBN News is reporting that the Democrats have removed mentions of “God” from the document as well.
This is a departure from the past. In 2008, the platform read (emphasis added), “We need a government that stands up for the hopes, values, and interests of working people, and gives everyone willing to work hard the chance to make the most of their God-given potential.”
With the words “God-given” removed, the 2012 platform sticks to a more secular script: “We gather to reclaim the basic bargain that built the largest middle class and the most prosperous nation on Earth – the simple principle that in America, hard work should pay off, responsibility should be rewarded, and each one of us should be able to go as far as our talent and drive take us.”
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In the end, the Democratic platform doesn’t mention the words “God” or “Lord” even one time. In contrast, the GOP platform mentions God 12 times. A simple comparison to past years’ platforms shows a disparity. In 2008, the Democrats had only one mention (the aforementioned ”God-given”), but in 2004, God was mentioned seven times.
But, as CBN’s David Brody notes, the Democratic document isn’t entirely devoid of religious sentiment. A portion discusses the notion that faith has always “been a central part of the American story, and it has been a driving force of progress and justice throughout our history.”
Below, read the remainder of the Democratic platform’s views on faith:
“We know that our nation, our communities, and our lives are made vastly stronger and richer by faith and the countless acts of justice and mercy it inspires. Faith-based organizations will always be critical allies in meeting the challenges that face our nation and our world – from domestic and global poverty, to climate change and human trafficking.
People of faith and religious organizations do amazing work in communities across this country and the world, and we believe in lifting up and valuing that good work, and finding ways to support it where possible. We believe in constitutionally sound, evidence-based partnerships with faith-based and other non-profit organizations to serve those in need and advance our shared interests. There is no conflict between supporting faith-based institutions and respecting our Constitution, and a full commitment to both principles is essential for the continued flourishing of both faith and country.”
While faith communities being given credit for embracing “justice and mercy,” it’s quite odd to see that the word “God” — a central tenet in most areas of American life, including the political, is absent.
(H/T: CBN’s David Brody)
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HelloWorld
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:13pmThey are comfortable with who they are. That is why we are not comfortable. A safe world is one that believes in the blessings of our Lord.
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sillyfreshness
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 5:13pmDemocratic Party=Communist Party, Worker’s Party, Labor Party, Marxist Party, Bolshevik Party, or whatever you want to call them. They subscribe to that same stale, old, tired communist ideology.
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cloudsofwar
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 5:31pmno surprise here, theres no room for GOD in the dem party only abortions(murder of the innocent).
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ChiefGeorge
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 5:33pmTalk about the party of exclusion and hate.
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Dan
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 5:43pmIf you denounce God, HE will not know you when you stand before him come judgement. May God have mercy on your souls.
Dan
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colt1860
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 6:05pm“The practice of morality being necessary for the well being of society, He [God] has taken care to impress its precepts so indelibly on our hearts that they shall not be effaced by the subtleties of our brain. We all agree in the obligation of the moral principles of Jesus and nowhere will they be found delivered in greater purity than in His discourses.” – Thomas Jefferson
“I am a Christian in the only sense in which He wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to His doctrines in preference to all others.” – Thomas Jefferson
Jefferson was against any priesthood in bed with Government, not against morality, religion, or virtue.
“The older I grow and the more I read the Holy Scriptures [the Christian Bible], the more reverence I have for them and the more I am convinced that they are not only the people’s guide for the conduct of this life, but the FOUNDATION of our hope respecting THE FUTURE STATE.” – Thomas Jefferson
President Adams, along with Congress, ratified the Treaty of Tripoli in 1797. The treaty of Tripoli remained on the books for eight years, at which time the treaty was renegotiated, and Article 11 was dropped.
The majority of citizens in this Nation are Christian, and our State Constitutions ALL acknowledge God. The Democrat’s platform more closely conforms to the views of the French and their radical revolution.
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WATER-THE-TREE
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 6:09pmNiether party knows GOD, But the Dems are so much closer to Satan the devil and his wishes than any other party…. And everyone is Totally wrong as to what made this country great…. This country was made great because of a promise that the GOD that the dems hate and the GOP does not really know, made to Abram, then after the promise was made, Abraham!
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Walkabout
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 6:18pmHow can God be present when Barney Frank is at the DNC?
Alleged picture of Barney Frank with belts around his neck.
http://charlotte.johnlocke.org/blog/?p=19122
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mattmo79
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 6:19pmDems are godless, soulless vermin! Just like the bloodsuckers they are sharing their rooms with!!
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paperpushermj
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 6:43pmLets see how the Black Ministry equivocates on this latest and greatest Democrat blow against religion. They passed on Abortion, got some backbone over same sex marriage and if history guides us, will take a walk on this latest slight.
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colt1860
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 7:05pm@WATER-THE-TREE
Covering the Lost Tribes of Israel and their modern locations: http://stevenmcollins.com/homepage.php
George Gordon’s School of Law: http://library.georgegordon.com/audio
From what I understand, Israel was divided into North and South. The Northern Kingdom, comprised primarily of ten tribes, was taken captive into Assyria, and became the lost House of Israel; whom Jesus and Jude mentioned in the New Testament. The Southern Kingdom, comprised mostly from the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and Levi, remained in the Holy Land, until their dispersion several decades after Christ’s birth. Later on, the Southern Kingdom was known as Judea, for the kings thereof came from the tribe of Judah, and all the citizens therein became known as Jews, regardless of what tribe they originated from. The blessings which the US has received bear a remarkable resemblance to the blessings Abraham was promised and the blessings Jacob passed on to the sons of Joseph. Take note, that Joseph was from the Northern Kingdom, and his sons also became a lost tribe.
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colt1860
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 7:20pmHere’s another kicker:
“Sixty-six members of Congress sent a letter to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta on Friday urging him to issue guidance to counter an “alarming pattern of attacks on faith in the Air Force.”
In their letter, the lawmakers blame Chief of Staff Gen. Norton Schwartz for cultivating a crackdown on religion within the service…
In the letter, the lawmakers say Schwartz is most responsible for what they say is a continuing pattern of anti-religious bias. They said a Sept. 1, 2011, memo issued by Schwartz imposed a “stringent policy with regards to religion”.
“The memo stated that Gen. Schwartz expected ‘chaplains, not commanders, to notify Airmen of Chaplain Corps programs,’ suggesting that the mere mention of these programs is impermissible,” the congressmen’s letter stated.
“We believe this statement exemplifies the troubling ‘complete separation’ approach that is creating a chilling effect down the chain of command as airmen attempt to comply.”
Individual moves taken within Air Force circles since Schwartz’s guidance go beyond the requirements of the U.S. Constitution, lawmakers wrote. “The changes lend credence to the notion that the Air Force will remove any references to God or faith that an outside organization brings”
http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2012/06/airforce-lawmakers-letter-panetta-religion-062212w/
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colt1860
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 7:34pm…While Obama orders Gay Pride celebrations?
“Just when you thought the Left’s campaign of cultural degradation couldn’t become any worse, Barack Hussein Obama, ostensibly the Commander in Chief of our Armed Forces, sent down a decree that the Service Branches must celebrate “Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month.” The purpose of this mandate is to affirm the minuscule number of homosexuals (2-3 percent) serving in the military ranks — mostly in rear echelon positions.
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta dutifully carried out the order, saying, “During Pride Month, and every month, let us celebrate our rich diversity and renew our enduring commitment to equality for all.”
Obama’s declaration came during the same week the DoD announced it would comply with atheist group demands that all military editions of the Bible be removed from Base Exchange centers…”
http://patriotpost.us/alexander/13881
Lord help us. Seriously. Have mercy on us.
“Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the Lord hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me. The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master’s crib: but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider. Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the Lord, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.” Isaiah 1:2-4
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 7:49pmColt1860 I take screenshots of your posts sometimes just because they’re so wise
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ProbIemSoIver
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:25pmThis Post will eventually explain why they are removing religion:
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INCOME TAX began in 1913 due to a contract between our Government and the PRIVATE BANK !!!!!
The FEDERAL RESERVE PRIVATE BANK !!!!!
In 1933 we breached that contract, and the PRIVATE BANK
SEIZED AMERICA !!!!!
First thing they seized was the government’s gold reserves.
It was not enough to absolve the debt.
Second thing they seized was the citizen’s gold.
It was not enough.
The gov‘t then pledged our gov’t branches, our LAND, and OUR PEOPLE !!!!!!!
Social Security came out in 1936. This is a Bond for the creditors to hold.
They made you a number, because you belong to them.
Pledged by your gov’t to pay a % of your lifetime earnings for that bankruptcy !!!!
Retirement Package is a Bold faced LIE !!!!!
They have been playing this ponzi scheme a long time.
In 1944, at the Bretton Woods agreement, the Federal Reserve transfered the lien to the IMF and World Bank, which created the UN the Next year.
The UN’s IMF has been the Creditor of the Bankruptcy and the trustee of the U.S. since then.
(That explains the UN’s Influence over us)
In 1992 they began foreclosure and liquidation.
Executive Order 12803 – Infrastructure Privatization.
AMERICA FOR SALE, OR LONG TERM LEASE TO INVESTORS !!!!!!
Foreign and domestic
PARKS, PORTS, BRIDGES, ROADWAYS, and MORE !!!!
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ProbIemSoIver
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:31pmAndrew Jackson killed America’s Second Privately owned Central Bank.
When asked on his deathbed, what was his life’s greatest accomplishment, he didn’t say being president.
He said “I killed the Bank”.
Those were his last words and are engraved on his tombstone.
America’s Third Central Bank (The Federal Reserve PRIVATE BANK) got it’s Tentacles around America in 1913 when we had to turn to them for financial help.
(the Federal Reserve Act, sign by the flaming progressive, Woodrow Wilson)
The Infamous Pyramid on our Dollar Appeared in 1933. The year the Bank seized America.
Why did no one know of this? Probably “national security”, “classified information”, or just the simple fact that the Rothschilds bought rueters and the associated press a long time ago.
If it were not for the Internet and deathbed confessions, we would still be in the dark.
The Global Elite built Fort Knox in 1937 to store all the gold it seized from America.
The “United States” is a Corporation established in 1871.
(look it up – of course anywhere but wikipedia, they probably can’t deny it either)
Obama and Bush are Cousins (distant, but still cousins)
90% of America’s media is owned by only 6 Corporations.
Nancy pelosi (and every other politician) is a private company.
The Congress, the Senate, the Executive office of the president, The Department of Justice and all the rest, are PRIVATE COMPANIES !!!!!!
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ProbIemSoIver
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:36pmAbraham Lincoln stated that he feared the Global Bankers more than the Confederate Army,
right before he was assassinated.
An Attempt on Andrew Jackson’s Life was made, but the gun misfired.
JFK signed Executive Order 11110, Granting Authority BACK to the U.S. Treasury (Not the Authority of the PRIVATE BANK – the FEDERAL RESERVE) to print REAL MONEY (not Notes) backed by silver. He had 4 Billion dollars worth of 5 dollar silver certificates printed up 5 months before he was killed.
Our other assassinated President Garfield, was also at odds with the Global Elite Banksters.
After America was for sale in 1992 (the same year the UN’s Agenda 21 map of the U.S. emerged)
The UN opened the Floodgates to help dilute the “resistance”
The Global Elite’s U.N. does not like your Bibles or Guns, and will never stop trying to eliminate them.
They don’t like the U.S. Constitution. It is a fly in thier ointment.
They own the media. They will continue to dumb-down and Indoctrinate the masses into a marxist ideology.
The Founding Fathers Hated Democracy.
Democracy means 51% of the people can take away the rights of the 49%.
The Constitution Says 99% of the people can’t Vote or Take away the 1%’s inalienable rights !!!!!
It is just that simple.
A person is free to do what he/she wishes, as long as they don‘t infringe on another’s rights !!!
The Global elite don’t want you to know this. Go back to watching your ball
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ProbIemSoIver
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:44pm*con’t
Go Back to watching your ball game at hooters and drinking your fluoridated beer.
Oh, and pay your taxes.
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Leadthemtothelight
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:49pmMay the good Lord strike down these people for their insolence.
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cramerchronicles
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:01pmAmerica is turning into a GOD-LESS nation. We need to change the dollar bill. “IN GOD WE TRUSTED” – cramerchronicles.com
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Kristina In Americaland
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:02pmSick of politicians in general, missing Ron Paul 2012, or think you are too busy to follow this election?
The Kardashians Don’t Need You, America Does – Mommy’s, Daddy’s & Libertarians LISTEN UP!
http://kristinainamericaland.wordpress.com/2012/09/04/the-kardashians-dont-need-you-america-does-mommys-daddys-libertarians-listen-up/
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NeoFan
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:27pmI disagree that the democrats are dropping god completely from their platform. They are just trading the God of Abraham for Baal.
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TH30PH1LUS
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:40pmThis about sums up those drawn to the DNC … “… just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.”
From Paul’s letter to the Romans – chapter 1
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TeresaJ
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 12:07am@ RealLiibertarian “instead of it being Christian worship”
Also, if what happened 200 years ago no longer matters, we should just throw out the Constitution then. No America.
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KissMyAmericanFlag
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 3:42amNo G-d in the democrat party, eh. That only leaves His opposite for them to represent, in all forms history has revealed — communist, marxist, and the like.
May G-d bless our USA.
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the_system_disconnect
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:55amDoes it really seem all that weird? I can’t imagine why anyone would think it is. There have been a few in the past 4 to 6 years who have been working overtime trying to wrench God out of the hearts of Americans. Thankfully they are the very very few.
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RWCT
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 1:36pmThe DEMS have no need at ALL of mentioning God during their convention. After all, THEIR God will be speaking Thursday night.
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RWCT
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 1:38pmFAITH in what and WHO is the question that should be asked.Certainly not the TRUE God.
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cbrown
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 6:18pmBreaking News: Now God is in the platform, time to vote for Obama.
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momrules
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:12pmI believe the Dems/progressives dumped God about the same time abortion, same sex marriage, homosexuality and communism became a hallmark of that party.
They may not want God on their ticket but He knows each and every one of them and He has a long memory for those who embrace evil.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:19pmThat’s alright, when they spill coffee on their pants and they say “Oh no, not right now.” Who do you think they’re talking to?
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:19pmIndeed; God will not be mocked or denied in the end.
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Want our country back
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:31pmMom, are you saying that GOD has a memory like an elephant rather than a donkey….. haha
This is so sad for our country.
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UnsilentMajority
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:32pmIt started long ago. Here are some of the stepping stones that got them to where they are today. If you would have asked me 10 years ago if I believed what Im about to post. I would have said you go too far with the comedy man. Being laid off for a year gives you time to open your eyes. Read and then ask yourself what you really believe to be true. All of these points can researched and verified over and over and over again.
http://rense.com/general32/americ.htm
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encinom
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:35pmObama is not running to remain Chaplain in Chief, we are a secular republic. This platform conforms to the wishes of the Founders, that the Government not be a Christian one, but an American one. Too bad the GOP has decided that they desire a taliban styled theocracy instead.
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woodyl1011fl
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:45pmDemocrats faith is a vacuous meaningless phrase. they have faith in nothing but they could adopt Charlie Brown’s “The Great Pumpkin” perhaps the “Great Pumpkin” will rise out of the pumpkin patch to give them a guiding presence they will bow down and worship the “Grest Pumpkin”. The democrat party is our official Secular/Evolutionary/Marxist totalitarian party of Atheism!! Never Thought I’d See The Day that my country would have party in power so dedicated to destroying the nation with such a visceral hatred for and attacking, persecuting Christianity, freedom of religion guaranteed in the constitution, hatred for Israel. This party must be defeated at all levels they all are enemies of Liberty, freedom and our constitution – wake up America and you better do it now!!!!!! .
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:52pmYou know, they want to remove God because they think they are perfect – of course that will cause them to fall.
But God doesn’t think about himself as perfect, because if God did, then God would keep on falling. That’s why God rather enjoyed, and approved of Job‘s rational thought when Job rationalized himself as not being a perfect lest he doesn’t see his own flaws. Satan sees himself as perfect, and also doesn’t see himself. His dust is in all people, and yet people look elsewhere for Satan – just as they do look elsewhere for Jesus. The greatest trick Satan ever did was to convince people Satan wasn’t in them, because if you don’t know Satan is in you, then there’s nothing to circ-umcise.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:57pmYea, that’s right ENCINOM. Remember all the non-christians we rounded up during Reagan, Bush, Nixon and every other Republican administration? It must hurt to be so stupid.
Besides, I thought you liberals loved the Taliban? Or was it the PLO? Or the Iranians? Of course, I’m old school. I’m used to you guys loving the Soviets.
It gets confusing trying to remember all of our countries enemies you guys adore.
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rawmilker
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:00pmWe all know marxists do not belive in God….
ENEMYM, you’re a hateful SOB aren’t you?
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Sirfoldallot
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:06pmI don’t reconize this party anymore, & they r so arrogant now they think they r god. They will pay 4 turning their back .
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:11pmSo, are they removing the money from their wallets and purses and tossing it away? I’d bet not.
Idiots.
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colt1860
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:19pmObama is running to be dedicator in Chief. We are a constitutional republic founded by a majority Christian population. Our Declaration of Independence expresses the views of We the People and our Founders, that our Rights don’t come from men, but from our Creator. Too bad the Democrat Party has decided that they desire a North Korean styled regime void of any accountability to a higher authority.
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just the facts
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:20pm@ ENCINOM
I’ve been watching your statements for some time now.
My conclusion: your a reprobate.
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RealLiibertarian
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:20pmWoody- nobody is attacking or persecuting Christianity. You need to get the fact that not everybody sees the deity in the same way that you do. Some of us see a Goddess, some see many Gods and Goddesses, some are animists. To say ‘God’ in the context that you wish, denies everyone else the equality of religion that the First Amendment guarantees. Just because you are not being given the primacy of the pulpit, does not mean you are being persecuted.
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OldGeek72
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:24pmSomething Thomas Jefferson said comes to mind. It’s etched into the wall of his memorial. It’s a reference to God’s justice.
Let’s see if any of the liberal trolls can find it.
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RossPoldark
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:32pmNot Helpful
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ESV / 7 helpful votes
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
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colt1860
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:51pm@RealLibertarion
You need to get your facts straight. Jefferson stated, in his ‘Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom’ (1786), that, “ALMIGHTY GOD hath created the mind free”. He also stated, in the Declaration of Independence (1774), that our Representatives were appealing to the “Supreme Judge of the World”. While your opinion may sound nice and sweet, it bears no resemblance to the foundation of our Government. This same Jefferson, along with Mason (Father of the Bill of Rights), stated, in ‘Virginia’s Declaration of Rights’ (1776), that, ” it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian forbearance, love, and charity toward each other”. Our state constitutions all acknowledged God during our founding. James Monroe (fifth US President), well stated that the blessings “with which our country has been favored, those which we now enjoy, and the means which we posses of handling them down unimpaired to our latest posterity” come from the “the Divine Author of All Good.” Indeed, since the founding of our nation, our forefathers have proclaim ONE invincible hand which has guided and protected us through and through. Washington, in a letter to Brig. General Thomas Nelson (1778), declared, that “the Hand of providence has been so conspicuous in all this, that he must be worse than an infidel that lacks faith, and more than wicked, that has not gratitude enough to acknowledge his obligations.”
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Lotus503
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:52pmDoes the term, “Godless communists” come to mind?
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PreachersKid
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:52pmJust a note to all you democrats that call themselves Christians, is this really acceptable behavior for your faith in God and your commitment to continue to support this party? Honestly, ask yourself about what God means in your life or do you hide all reference of Him too? Lord have mercy, our president has already thrown Israel under the bus in regards to Iran, if this is the transparency that he claims to show in his administration, I don’t care WHAT party you are affiliated with, he is setting us up to be doomed and judged by GOD Himself. We pray for our administration every day and on Wed at church, that God would open their eyes and abstain from ALL appearance of evil and get right. What are you dems doing? If they continue down this path, it won’t be a pretty outcome. Now I just pray for people to use common sense, is this the kind of world we want to be a part of? If you don’t stand for God you will fall flat on your face …….I said my peace, take it or leave it but I won’t let anyone take away my God given rights, or do they not call it that anymore? MERCY and shame on us Christians?
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Chinishque
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:53pmOur Constitution was made ONLY for a MORAL and RELIGIOUS people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. John Adams
This is the foundational fact that the democrats understand…the only way to rid themselves of the control of the constitution is to remove religion and create an A-Moral people…and I believe they are well on their way to accomplishing just that very thing.
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Chinishque
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:59pm@Encinom…We were not at the founding nor have we ever been a secular republic. We have freedom of religion but that doesn’t mean we are secular. I think if Thomas Jefferson knew that his few words to the Danbury Baptists would have been twisted the way they have he would never have talked about a wall of separation between church and state. And by the way, he only said that in the context of the establishment clause which did not allow for government sanction of any one sect as the selected church of the government. All of the founders personal writings, especially TJ supported the mutual understanding that we were founded as a Christian Republic.
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BIGWUN
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 5:17pmYes, adopting a policy of murder for convenience is contrary to God’s will and ways. Dems can dump God from their secular belief system but they do not change the fact that God created and still runs the whole show.
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encinom
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 5:26pmThe day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. — Thomas Jefferson
In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot … they have perverted the purest religion ever preached to man into mystery and jargon, unintelligible to all mankind, and therefore the safer engine for their purpose. — Thomas Jefferson, to Horatio Spafford, March 17, 1814
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion — Treaty of Tripoli (1797)
Some of the citizens of this Nation maybe Christian, but our government is a Secular Republic. The Democrat’s platform more closely conforms to the views of the founders.
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ChiefGeorge
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 5:36pmHe is also a forgiving and graceful Lord who can remove and excuse these things esp when they are done out of ignorance. As Paul wrote, He found me in my ignorance and forgave me. The ones that truly despise God and make a coordinated effort to remove his name and forget him altogether is another story. They will however stand judgment for their wicked ways meant to stumble and harm others.
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BuzzardSays
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 5:46pmGod is my God. Jesus is my Savior. I believe in Jesus. I accept his gift for my life. We will soon be gone and Obama and his evil minions can have it for the finale. I wonder about heaven and anticipate a wonderful banquet set before mine enemies. I pray Jesus comes soon.
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RealLiibertarian
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 5:55pmColt- Nice set of quotes, but they mean nothing in this context. The US Constitution says that no religion may be established by the government. To choose one particular religion over any other and to give it primacy is to act in direct opposition to the Constitution. What you want is to set up a Christian theocracy, and you want the parties to validate that. The further we keep religion, all religion, yours and mine, away from government, the safer we are.
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colt1860
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 6:13pmThe Establishment Clause does not ban the favoring of a Religion, rather it prohibits the Government from instituting (creating into Law) AN ESTABLISHMENT of Religion.
“The General hopes and trusts that every officer and man will endeavor to live and act as becomes a Christian soldier defending the dearest rights and liberties of his country.” General Order, (9 July 1776) George Washington
The House of Representatives of the Thirty-Fourth Congress, 1854,… passed the following preamble and resolutions, “Whereas, The people of these United States, from their earliest history to the present time, have been led by the hand of a kind Providence, and are indebted for the countless blessings of the past and present, and dependent for continued prosperity in the future upon Almighty God; and whereas the great vital and conservative element in our system is the belief of our people in the pure doctrines and divine truths of the gospel of Jesus Christ, it eminently becomes the representatives of a people so highly favored to acknowledge in the most public manner their reverence for God:” (pp. 327,328)
The Constitution doesn’t prohibit religious expression, anywhere. The Constitution doesn’t state, Congress shall make no law respecting religion. Rather, it prohibits adopting any one ESTABLISHMENT of religion, as though it were PART OF Government.
Madison said it was a “separation between ECCLESIASTICAL and civil matters”.
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ButtersDurst
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 6:16pm“Some of the citizens of this Nation maybe Christian, but our government is a Secular Republic. The Democrat’s platform more closely conforms to the views of the founders.” – Enicom
1. If by ‘some’ you mean 90% of the US population (and that is a conservative number). Yes the majority of the country is Christian in some form.
2. Sorry but despite gay marriage, abortion and some of the other radical views the founders probably never even fathom would happen, the founders would NOT support the Democratic party simply on the principle that Democrats support big government. No matter how many times you rationalize it, there is no way around this point.
GG
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 6:55pmENCINOM, Did you bother to read the entire letter to John Adams, or where you just hoping that none of us knew of it actual contents. And, to think that you were one of the fools screaming that we took Barrack 0bama’s “You didn’t build this” speech out of context. LOL, I can’t really call it context. You just choose a highlighted part of Jefferson’s letter while giving no matter what came before nor afterwards. He was rather disgusted that Adams had previously requested him (Jefferson) to become a Calvinist. Jefferson vehemently disagreed with Calvin and thought him more of an atheist, of whom Jefferson said that he could never be a member. Apparently, in his very own words in the very letter you have brought forward, Jefferson states that he could no be an atheist like YOU either.
You sir, have put forth Jefferson’s own words in a blatant attempt to tell a lie to those here.
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RealLiibertarian
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 6:55pmColt- The Establishment Clause does not ban the favoring of a Religion, rather it prohibits the Government from instituting (creating into Law) AN ESTABLISHMENT of Religion.
So, which Christian sect shall we ‘favor’? The closest to the most prominent at the time of the founding fathers would be Episcopalian. Oh, but hold it, you guys keep decrying them because they aren’t pure enough for you. So who shall it be? Congregationalists- good old New England tradition? No, no, they are too ‘liberal’, according to your pundits. And the Catholics aren’t really Christian, even though they are the oldest denomination. Face it, you want a religion ‘favored’ that is not even close to what the founding fathers believed, a hard line evangelical faith that bears no resemblance to the founding of this country and that wants nothing to do with the freedom promised in the Constitution.
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colt1860
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 7:15pmReligions doesn’t mean sect. Religion could be used in a general sense. In the first Amendment, “Establishment” was added to the word Religion, negating the meaning that the word “religion” alone bears.
Jefferson said CHURCH and State, not RELIGION and state. There’s a HUGE difference. One is an establishment, organization, institution or legal entity, the other is a set of principles, morals and values. Our GOVERNMENT is not comprised from some body of clergymen, nor is it a political entity existing as one with the church, or any ecclesiastical body. That means that we have no ecclesiastical monarchy as in England or clerical dictatorship as was in the Holy Roman Empire. The first amendment prohibits Government from instituting or adopting, as a function of Government, an ESTABLISHMENT of Religion, it does not prohibit it from recommending or “favoring” religion in general.
“On Monday last the Circuit Court of the United States was opened in this town. The Hon Judge [Supreme Court Justice] Paterson presided. After the Jury were impaneled, the Judge delivered a most elegant and appropriate charge… Religion and morality were pleasingly inculcated and enforced as being necessary to good government, good order, and good laws, for “when the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice”… After the charge was delivered, the Rev. Mr. Alden addressed the Throne of Grace in an excellent, well-adapted prayer.” – NH Newspaper from Portsmouth, 1800.
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RealLiibertarian
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 7:29pmColt-it does not prohibit it from recommending or “favoring” religion in general.
Then you would have no problem with government recommending religion in general to include Wicca, Santeria, Hinduism, Taoism, and the animist religions of the Native Americans.
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colt1860
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 7:38pmI adhere to a balance of original meaning, original intent, historical background and strict construction.
The first official act in the First Continental Congress was to open in Christian prayer, which ended in these words: “…the merits of Jesus Christ, Thy Son, our Savior. Amen”.
On Mary 27, 1854 the House delivered a report (the Senate report was very similar), responding to a group petitioning Congress to separate Christian principles from government:
“Had the people [the Founding Fathers], during the Revolution, had a suspicion of any attempt to war against Christianity, that Revolution would have been strangled in its cradle. At the time of the adoption of the Constitution and the amendments, the universal sentiment was that Christianity should be encouraged, but not any one sect [denomination]…. In this age, there is no substitute for Christianity…. That was the religion of the founders of the republic, and they expected it to remain the religion of their descendants.”
Two months later, the Judiciary Committee made this strong declaration:
“The great, vital, and conservative element in our system [the thing that holds our system together] is the believe of our people in the pure doctrines and divine truths of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.”
Washington said, in his Farewell Address, when speaking to the American people, “With slight shades of difference, you have the same religion, manners, habits, and political principles.”
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colt1860
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 7:42pmWhile encamped on the banks of a river, Washington was approached by Delaware Indian chiefs who desired that their youth be trained in American schools. In Washington’s response, he first told them that “Congress… will look on them as on their own children.” That is, we would train their children as if they were our own. He then commended the chiefs for their decision, “You do well to wish to learn our arts and our ways of life and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ. These will make you a greater and happier people than you are. Congress will do everything they can to assist you in this wise intention.”
Every new session in Congress opens with a prayer. The following is the beginning of this tradition:
“Let us enter on this important business under the idea that we are Christians on whom the eyes of the world are now turned… [L]et us earnestly call and beseech Him, for Christ’s sake, to preside in our councils… We can only depend on the all powerful influence of the Spirit of God, Whose Divine aid and assistance it becomes us as a Christian people most devoutly to implore. Therefore I move that some minister of the Gospel be requested to attend this Congress every morning… in order to open the meeting with prayer.” Elias Boudinot; President of Congress; Signed the Peace Treaty to end the American Revolution; First attorney admitted to the US Supreme Court bar; Framer of the Bill of Rights; Director of the US Mint.
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momprayn
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 7:45pmRJJING, ENCINOM, MOM —- RJ, thanks for posting the explanation you gave about the context of the truth about that letter. I read it – you are correct. He was pointing out the heresies of other so – called “Christians”, and the inevetibility of apostasy where they will say ridiculous things which Encinom highlighted – of which he did not believe of course.
ENCINOM, shame on you and all others like you that deliberately deceive in order to try to get others to believe as you do. I pray you “see THE “Light” before it’s too late for you…..
MOM – you might want to check out WHEN the COMMUNISTS started to infiltrate the Democrat Party – back in 1948 and the leading part by Frank M. Davis, Obama’s mentor. Very enlightening folks:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/frank_marshall_davis_and_the_subversion_of_the_democratic_party.html
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RealLiibertarian
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 8:02pmJust be honest, Colt. It is, after all, what your religion supposedly tells you to do. You want a Christian theocracy, with the rest of us forced to bend to your rules, your morality, and your Bible. You care not one bit about freedom, and given the choice, you would eliminate any freedom that is not in concert with your narrow beliefs. And when any of us from other religions stands up to push back, you call it ‘persecution’.
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colt1860
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 8:22pm@RealLiibertarian LOL. You can assume whatever you want. I quote our founders and state facts, and now I’m forcing “my” rules, “my” morality, and “my” bible? LMAO! Did every President in US history also swear their Constitutional Oath on “my” Bible? And has every US President stated “So help me God” because I forced them? LOL. I’m enforcing and encouraging what our forefathers held as true and self evident at our founding. Theocracy? LOL. That ain’t even work when God tried it in the OT. The people always became rebellious. LOL. Why would I attempt that with men in charge? LOL. You seriously had to mention “theocracy? LOL. It never fails. Next I’ll read of sky gods, tooth fairies, that I was forced by my parents to sit for two hours in a church, and that believing in Santa is the same as believing in God? LOL. Okay. These same things are eventually repeated all the time. If quoting our founders leads you to believe that I support or espouse some form of a “theocracy”, then you really are misled and have little hope for understanding anything even remotely objective and not bias. Then again, this makes me question your reading comprehension. I quote our founders, and now, I don’t care about freedom? LOL. I quote what our Continental Congress stated, and now their resolutions are “my” narrow beliefs? LMAO! BTW, I never once mentioned the word “persecution”. Your attempt to malign me and distort what I posted is laughable, very much so.
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RealLiibertarian
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:22pmColt- then why care? Why not let people live as suits them best? Why care if the Dems removed ‘God’ from their platform? If you don’t espouse theocracy, then what difference does it make if some of us don’t follow your rules and want to live to a different standard? Freedom means just that. Pursuit of happiness? Mine does not lie within the bounds of Christian dogma.
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colt1860
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:52pm@RealLibertarian You’re taking everything I say out of context and to the extreme. I haven’t expressed any specific Christian creed or dogma. The fact is, it was our nation (people), which was 98% Protestant Christian during the Revolution, that was able to establish the most freest and prosperous nation ever. Check the Muslims and their Arab nations, the Hindus and their Indian nation, the Buddhist’s and their Communist Nation, the Roman Catholics and their Marxist nations (Latin America), the Voodoo adherents and their Haitian nation, etc. etc. The reason we have freedom today is because a few pilgrims and religious folks decided to escape tyranny from Europe and establish true religious and civil liberty, on the basis that our individual rights come from God our Creator, that natural Laws are governed by a Governor of the Universe, and that our acts and deeds are accountable to a Supreme Judge of the World. Only a Christian populace was able to truly, spiritually, and unabashedly accept this. The blessings you are enjoying today would be impossible if the populace was anything else than Protestant Christian. The world all over proves that. They may have a democracy, but none have a constitutional republic as we do.
Maryland’s preamble states, as do most of the state constitutions, in similar manner:
“We, the People of the State of Maryland, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberty”
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TeresaJ
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:24pm@RealLiibertarian “Nobody is attacking or persecuting Christianity” Colt has done a fine job on the “church and state” part, so please allow me to refute the remaining:
Senior citizens in Balch Springs, Texas, were told to stop praying before their meals, listening to inspirational religious messages, and singing gospel songs in their senior citizens’ center because of a new city policy banning religion in public buildings. The citizens sued to defend their right to religious freedom. The seniors were told that if they won their lawsuit, their meals would be taken away since praying over government-funded meals violates the “separation of church and state.”
Elementary school student Raymond Raines was “caught” praying over his meal at his elementary school. He was lifted from his seat and reprimanded in front of the other students, then taken to the principal who ordered him to cease praying in school.
Dr. Frank Turek was fired for his religiously-motivated view that marriage should be between a woman and a man. He had never expressed this view at work, but did express it through a book he authored. Dr. Turek was fired without having been addressed about the issue or given opportunity to speak and despite high regard from other employees and managers.
The University of Texas fired two women for privately praying for an absent co-worker after work.
Source and more stories http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=PG12H03
Nevermind CHICK-FIL-A and “God bless th
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RealLiibertarian
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:31pmThe first settlers did not come to this country to establish religious freedom, they came so that they could make the rules and be the oppressors for once. Read Saints and Strangers by George Willison.
Comparing to 3rd world countries is not a reasonable argument. Compare instead to northwestern Europe where freedom increased as religion lost much of it’s hold. Even Spain, that bastion of Catholic thought has legalised gay marriage. Ireland, another Catholic country has legalised abortion. We live in a post christian world. For those who wish to live by those standards, it is still their choice, but for the rest of us, we should not be held to beliefs that are not ours. The secular Constitution is what counts, not the commentaries of the founders. The world changes. The country evolves. What may have been true 200 years ago, is no longer necessarily valid or even true, in a country with a vastly more diverse and educated population.
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RealLiibertarian
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:36pmTeresa, what would your reaction have been if, instead of it being Christian worship, they had been praying to Odin or to Diana? How about if they had been making the sign of the pentacle over their food? Chanting Bhuddist prayers? Would you be so quick to defend them?
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TeresaJ
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 12:01am@ RealLiibertarian “instead of it being Christian worship”
Constitution of Maryland 1867
it is the duty of every man to worship God in such manner as he thinks most acceptable to Him, all persons are equally entitled to protection in their religious liberty: wherefore, no person ought, by any law, to be molested in his person or estate on account of his religious persuasion or profession, or for his religious practice, unless, under the color of religion, he shall disturb the good order, peace, or safety of the state, or shall infringe the laws of morality, or injure others in their natural, civil, or religious rights;
Yes, I would defend their right to pray. We have a right to be religious, not godless.
Responding to the reply above that one, we are not Ireland, or Spain, or anyone else. We are AMERICA. You mistake godlessness for freedom, which Colt has already refuted.
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TeresaJ
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 12:13am@ RealLiibertarian
Also, if what happened 200 years ago doesn’t matter, we should just throw out the constitution then.
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colt1860
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 3:22pm@relliber I don’t think you have thorough knowledge of American history. Your over generalizations and false assumptions don’t prove or substantiate anything you say, but on the contrary, makes you look ignorant of real history.
The first settlers, unlike Roman Catholic Spaniards, came to this country to establish religious freedom, based on the freedom Jesus taught.
“…We, whose names are underwritten… Having undertaken for the Glory of God, and Advancement of the Christian Faith, and the Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage to plant the first Colony in the northern Parts of Virginia; Do by these Presents, solemnly and mutually, in the Presence of God and one another, covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil Body Politick, for our better Ordering and Preservation, and Furtherance of the Ends aforesaid: And by Virtue hereof do enact, constitute, and frame, such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions, and Officers, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general Good of the Colony; unto which we promise all due Submission and Obedience.” – Mayflower Compact (1620)
Comparing our founding to third world countries is legitimate. Take Haiti. France civilized and brought Government to that country. The natives rejected their presence; now they are third world filth.
I’m well studied in libertarian thought, and speak none of it. Your comments reek of liberalism and willful ignorance.
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colt1860
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 4:31pm*and you speak none of it
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Tri-ox
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:11pmDemocrats have replaced God with obama – this will be their downfall.
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Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:30pmIt’s kind of a simple trick, really. Read the platform scripts, find out what’s not there, and complain about it.
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mamatango
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:49pmYes, and as we saw in 2008, he was more than willing to take God’s place! Remember all the “halo” pictures,his speech at a mock-up of the Pergamon Gate, effigies of him as Jesus riding on a donkey! And I see this theme starting again this year. Nothing but sheer BLASPHEMY for anyone who believes in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!
I weep for what is happening to my country, and the hearts of her people.
“In his own autobiographies he tells us how he favored Marxist professors and student radicals in the Ivy League colleges where they are fostered. After he graduates, he becomes not just a student but an instructor in the social manipulation methodologies of openly Marxist revolutionary Saul Alinsky. In the opening pages of his worshipped masterpiece Rules for Radicals, Alinsky dedicates the book to the first true radical — Satan.’
http://spectator.org/archives/2012/08/31/election-2012-america-will-nev
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zjak
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:24pmAnd yet people who confess religious fervor still vote for them!!! I will never understand it. I was showing a Liberal friend of mine the platform of the DNC convention and he lamented the good old days of Bill Clinton. Even Liberals who are god fearing are starting to question their party’s motive.
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floridareader
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:51pmAnd remember, they are selling calendars insinuating BHO is Jesus.
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colt1860
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 5:11pmRemember, Obama more than three times, left out the mention of our Creator when quoting the Declaration of Independence.
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Shasta
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:00pmObama replaced God with Obama a very long time ago. Soros thinks of himself as having God like qualities. Obama worships himself, believing he is God.
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Raging_Waters
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 12:13amYesterday Drudge had a picture of Obumites gleefully grabbing at Obuma’s hand, with the caption: “In Obama They Trust.” Very sad, but true..
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avgconservative
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:11pmThe Democrats are now truly… GODLESS.
(but we knew that)
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Zipit
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:03pmAll at the direction of our “Muslim-in-chief” I’m sure!
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chips1
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:55pmSo that’s why Obama has all those scars on the back of his head. He might be an abortion survivor that restricted his learning abilities.
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Lucifers Hammer
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:11pmProving definitively that you cannot be a Christian, Jew or Muslim AND be a democrat. If you are…you are a moron being used by a cabal of leaders who think you are too stupid to understand that they are destroying your religions before your very eyes.
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LIBERTARIAN T38
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:29pmYou are 2/3 correct. The Dems have replaced God with government, but they seek to harness radical Islam. Remember, Islamofascists are allies of the new Democrat party.
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Chinishque
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 5:03pmIf you look at Islam today they can barely feed and clothe themselves without the Christian West buying their oil they would be less than 3rd world countries.
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barber2
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:09pmWell, if you are pushing gay marriage and abortion, that God ” thingy” gets award. Also explains the rise of atheist activism and the anti- Christian ( the Left’s favorite religious target / especially the Catholic Church ) comments we get here on the Blaze. Yeah, who needs to refer to ” god” when you have Big Brother and Obama looking after you ?! ( America has been invaded by the International Left and our traditional values have been hijacked by the New Far Left American Democrat Party . ) NOBAMA 2012 NO DEMOCRATS 2012
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barber2
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:32pm( I get the poor Proof- reading award ) correction: should be ” gets awkward” Sorry.
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ReaganBaby
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:09pmthe only things they consider God is BO
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mamatango
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:33pmYup, BO and THIS!
The Communist Takeover Of
America – 45 Declared Goals
http://rense.com/general32/americ.htm
Not to mention that they are deeply in bed with the Muslim extremists.(Think Hillary) Guess they will either declare religion a crime or try to replace Yahovah with the Muslim god as the state religion to keep everyone in line. Yeah, that oughta do it. Practice your belief, and lose your head!
How in God’s green earth can American Jews vote democratic???
We need to try to pray like Daniel…God forgive us…help us!!!
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Jim
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:09pmI, for one, am glad they’ve finally come out and transparently acknowledged in their platform what we’ve known for a long time. Although I’m unimpressed with the snippet of a placating statement that mentions “faith”…faith in what I have no idea…
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wkw58
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:08pmAnd the Lord God said in a thunderous voice, “It’s on, ye bretheren of the DNC”.
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mamatango
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:53pmApparently the humongous videoscreen directly above the podium (on the tiny DNC stage) is looking like something out of 1984!!!
http://washingtonexaminer.com/tiny-convention-floor/article/2506813#.UEZBiGzCz8A
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djaznh
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:07pmI understand the anti-American Rev Wright is speaking tonight. (You know, the one Obama threw under the bus in 2008) So, yes, there will still be no references to the God I KNOW.
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barber2
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:27pmDJ: And Wright will probably lead a stirring chorus of : God Damn America .
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barber2
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:30pmDJ: Reverend Wright is now back from ” under the bus” because Obama has taken off his mask. Now the Reverend is again a useful tool for stirring up the angry, anti-American base that Obama is appealing to .
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HigherRoad
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:05pmScripture says in Matthew 12:30: “He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.” If the Democrats are not with Christ, they are with Satan.
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kickagrandma
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:13pmBING-o!!!
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happyday49
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:21pmTrue, however, they are so reprobate, they do not realize it!! And as do practicing christians who attend church services weekly, praises God and then stomp the ground for Obama.
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dixie63
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:24pmAmen!
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tbo
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:01pmDid they Drop God …
or did God pull his support for them?
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imsteph
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:10pmthey worship at the idol that is gov.
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happyday49
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:23pmGod is always waiting for us to come to Him or return when we leave from under His amazing Grace.
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cookcountypatriot
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:01pmlike the muslims they kneel before the democratic party is the anti american party..they are what stalin said would happen to our country,,,we would decline from within and they are the root cause of our decline….but have no fear…in november we will not only throw obama out but many in that evil party will be sent packing.,…we the people will stand together and evict that hatefull demonic party from our midst…and when they have thier hissy fit..fine ..we will repel them once and for all….oooooo i cant wait
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taxpro4u03
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 5:15pmAccording to the ‘hiSTORY’ I read, back in the day Russia sent two ships to the US – to keep England at bay when Uncle Abe refused to do bid-ness with the Bank of NY (Rothschilds controlled central bank) to fund his lil shin-dig — He issued ‘greenbacks…’) – anyhoo… Stalin borry’d that line from Lincoln his-self. —> “All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined could not, by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we ourselves must be its author and finisher.” Abraham Lincoln If one were to ‘believe’ the polls – it’s neck and neck — Must be why the LOUDEST of ‘haters’ spring up amongst those who advocate ‘tolerance,’ and ‘diversity.’ –
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progressiveslayer
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:59pmSo they’re not referring to Barry? Oh what will the Obama zombies worship then?
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NHwinter
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:06pmThey will worship government. That is who gives them life, or takes it away, and feeds them, and they hope for the government to give them a house, car, food stamps, and free education. Remove God and you have cleared the way for an all powerful government and a dictator.
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barber2
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:25pmNH: Big Brother Goverment is their god. They do not believe in God. They do not believe in a spiritual world or an after life. For The Far Left, it’s all about right here in this world. That is why they are big on that ” social justice / revenge ” idea. They can’t let getting even go beyond the grave. Just like they don’t care how they win or what moral code gets them them. It”s all about the physical world. Getting the “stuff” now. Getting the stuff here. A jungle of the survival of the fittest AS DETERMINED BY BIG BROTHER.
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needmoinfo
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 8:01pmMohammed. They will replace God with Mohammed in our Funk and Wagnals. Obama’s Christian mask is shrinking faster than the witch in the Wizard of Oz.
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kickagrandma
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:59pmSee, y’all. It IS up to us, “HIS KIDS”:
“If MY people who are called by MY name will humble themselves, and pray and seek MY face, and turn from their wicked ways,
THEN,
I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.” II Chronicles 7:14
democrats, you need to read the rest of the chapter. The news for you is not good.
May GOD BLESS AMERICA. May HE PROTECT HIS KIDS. And, may HE GRANT US COURAGE TO RETAKE THIS COUNTY IN HIS HOLY NAME, AMEN.
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LibertyGoddess
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:59pmIn order to hate America, you have to hate God first. In order to hate family, religion, and morality, you have to hate God because he is the sponsor of those things. Now we know who is behind the Democratic party.
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doomytram
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:59pmThe Obozo administration is at War with the Catholic Church, Women, Baptist Christian Churches, The Jewish, Hispanics (Fast n Furious) et al
The shear unmitigated gall of the Obozo the Clown to think that the above is his base, and somehow he can campaign to get the votes of the above without laughing is laughable.
The Obozo Administration and his Truth Team will be dedicated the DNC convention to Muslim Outreach of NASA like nightmarish capacities.
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I SPY
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:58pmThat’s because God is definitely not on their side.
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Chinishque
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 5:17pmGod doesn’t take sides, though I wish sometimes he would. The actions of groups of men hold no sway with God…it is only what is in the individual hearts of men that means anything. Collectively, what the democrats are doing my fly in the face of God but many of them actually believe that what they are trying to do is for the greater good and therefore justifiable. They will be judged as individuals whether they are actually seeking to do good or not.
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bikerdogred1
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:57pmHow about the muslims,it is OK to talk about them.PHONIES
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Sy Kosys
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:57pmHow much GODless US dollars are they going to spend at this Convention?
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Steelhead
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:56pm-What God do you believe in Billy? The Christian one or the Mormon one?
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barber2
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:19pmHead: And which one do you believe in ? LOL
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Chinishque
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 5:09pm@Stealhead…I always find it interesting when people comment on Mormons being not Christian or believing is some other God just because they dont agree with the old established religious dogma. You unfortunately lose any credibility when you attack people this way.
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TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 6:21pmThe only God that is to be believed; is the God of the Old Testament and the New Testament. Same God, same Creator; same Jesus Christ from everlasting to everlasting.
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 7:54pmMormonism is an aberrant Christian theology, but darn it, Mormonism is STILL a Christian theology.
We can argue about the validity of LDS when we stop this gushing debt problem
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Garman1
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:54pmLet’s see if they say “God Bless America” to close any of their speeches. If not, there goes the voter groups they say they are helping.
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CatB
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:54pmNow if we call them Godless DemocRATS … are they going to get mad? Keep exposing yourselves and we will keep spreading the word!
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CatB
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:53pmTalk about EXTREMISTS .. MUSLIMS YES … GOD NO … got it people. Abortion Good … babies at Convention bad (I saw babies at the RNC convention) feel free to add on ….
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doomytram
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:00pmFluke thinks she is a fekking God, and the Obozo team wants to raise her up, but Fluke is a fekking nothing…… a shill an Obozo Pawn.
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kickagrandma
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:16pmHi, CATB~~~
I would add: PRAY that GOD lets them strip themselves naked in front of the world, so the world knows whose they are. They are well on the way.
I, too, enjoyed seeing the children at the RNC and hearing, “GOD bless you.”
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RANGER1965
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:53pmThere are consequences for doing that. I wonder if they understand the damage they are doing to themselves, and this country
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progressiveslayer
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:00pmThe mask is clearly off,they’re communist heathen and they’re putting that front and center.
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barber2
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:18pmPRO: Agree. Will be interesting to see how a ” godless” convention turns out. Hear they have many more police to control the crowds than at the Republican Convention. Fasten your seat belts. ( Well, we know Chicago’s own Saul Alinsky dedicated Rules For Radicals to Lucifer and the Community Organizers there, like Barack Obama, sure studied Alinsky’s guidelines . Wonder if the Democrats dedicated the 2012 Platform to the same First Radical ?? Sounds like the devil would heartily approve of it . )
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