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Sep. 4, 2012 9:36am Billy Hallowell

Ex Christian Singer Jennifer Knapp Discusses Her Sexuality & Music Career

Photo Credit: Jennifer Knapp

A decade ago, Christian singer Jennifer Knapp was riding high with a successful music career, a Grammy nomination and numerous Dove Awards under her belt. But, in 2003, she turned her back on her evangelical fame and virtually disappeared. Years later, Knapp is back — but with a few surprises.

She’s now an out lesbian who, in the minds of many, is starkly different from the girl who once performed and toured with her famed Jesus-inspired tunes. TheBlaze recently interviewed Knapp to discuss her career and her shocking transformation.

KNAPP DISCUSSES HER BACKGROUND & CAREER

The singer explained that she had never aspired to be a rock star. In fact, she said that prior to entering the faith-based music industry, she had little, if any, knowledge about it. Her journey, though accidental, did, indeed, lead her to monumental music success. It wasn’t until Knapp went to college that she was exposed to intense religious adherence.

As a child, she recalls growing up in a somewhat non-religious family. When the singer turned 18, she said she “made a concerted effort” to truly begin exploring Christianity. While she remembers being “really inspired to follow this mystery of Christ,” the singer said that it took her quite a bit of time to figure it all out.

“In evangelical terms, I accepted Christ and then it was like six or eight months before I was deciding about how much I was going to engage in the church community,” she recalled.

Photo Credit: Fairlight Hubbard/JenniferKnapp.com

As this transformation was taking place, Knapp also began exploring her musical talents. Little did she know that her journey would be fast-paced and that it would lead her to heights she never intended to reach.

A fact some may not know about Knapp is that she didn’t come to Christianity with a clean slate (then again, many faithful share a similar experience). She described herself as “a woman of the world” prior to becoming a Jesus follower, and explained that she had “a lot of sexual experience, drank [and] smoked” in the time leading up to her conversion.

“I was all the things that were preached against,” she said.

All that changed, of course, when her career commenced.

Considering her level of fame and this startling decision to leave it all behind back in 2002, naturally, there are many questions worth asking Knapp. Among them: What was her reasoning for quitting her music career?

WHY KNAPP LEFT CHRISTIAN MUSIC BEHIND

While some may assume that her sexuality played a role, Knapp is adamant about proclaiming that this simply wasn’t the case. Instead, she said she found herself exhausted and in need of a break. The exit process wasn’t easy.

“I spent a year trying to extricate myself from Christian music — I had a really tough schedule and I was tired,” she explained, going on to say that she also realized that her unconventional views were creating issues for her career. “Any time that I would express my own theological view in public that didn’t fit the evangelical mold, I was finding it was making my job difficult.”

Photo Credit: Fairlight Hubbard/JenniferKnapp.com

So, Knapp divorced herself from Christian music.

“Nobody does that. It just didn’t make sense to anyone,” she said of her decision. “It took me a year to clear my schedule — and to convince people that I was not going to work again.”

TheBlaze did push her a bit on the homosexuality front, asking her to describe if, at all, the decision to leave faith-based music was based on her realization that she was attracted to women. She maintained that it was not and that other issues forced her to take time away.

“It’s really important to me that the timeline is really well respected, “She explained. “I didn’t leave Christian music because of my sexual orientation.”

KNAPP’S SEXUALITY

In fact, it wasn’t until her late 20s that Knapp recalls starting to have an inkling that she might be a lesbian.

Throughout the majority of her music career, she remained celibate “to avoid [an] appearance of evil.” The music industry experience left her somewhat disconnected, she said, claiming that she “didn’t [even] know how to be friends with people.”

“I didn’t want to exercise a rebellion, but I wanted to sit down and ask myself a hard question,” she said of her sexuality when it came time for her to address it, saying that she wanted to explore the question rather than simply ignoring it.

Unlike other performers who have come out vocally to tell the world about their same-sex attraction, Knapp decided not to make a big announcement. Having already exited the Christian music world, she quietly entered into a relationship with a woman and refrained from touring and album-making. Today, she’s in the same relationship — one that has lasted a decade.

THE SINGER’S CHRISTIAN FAITH IS STILL STRONG

Knapp says she’s still very in-tune with her faith. And, in many ways, she says that she’s able to be more genuine than it was a decade ago. In fact, she called it “more heart-driven and spiritual than some of the efforts I had to make 10 years ago.” Knapp says she’s less concerned with engaging in “traditional” actions to express her faith in Christ.

“I’m still very serious about my faith,” she said. “It really becomes a daily component that you have to walk through — your faith is still your faith.”

Photo Credit: JenniferKnapp.com

But the journey wasn’t easy. Knapp admitted to walking away from her faith briefly to explore herself a bit throughout these monumental transformations and realizations. While she’s never questioned her sexual orientation since accepting it 10 years ago, Knapp said she spent a fair amount of time “trying to undo” her religion.

“Most of my struggle was, ‘how do I deal with a faith community that doesn’t understand me,’” the singer explained. “I wasn’t willing to exchange my value of myself.”

When she first met her partner, Knapp’s Christian friends told her to exit the relationship — something she wasn’t willing to do. This, of course, was challenging for the musician, who described feeling as though she was being asked to “sell” her partner “down the river” simply because she was a lesbian.

KNAPP WEIGHS IN ON THEOLOGY AND HOMOSEXUALITY

Throughout the interview, the singer maintained that her sexuality was part of her very person and that she is doing the right thing — at least by her own standards — in embracing it.

“I’ve never heard an audible voice from the heavens — and you go ahead with as much as you can with your head and your heart,” she said when asked to weigh in on where she believes God stands on same-sex attraction. “There’s a point where I just accepted who I am and that may be right — that may be wrong.”

When asked to explain why so many Christians reject homosexuality, she was candid.

“There are over 34,000 denominations [and] there’s a wide variety in the way people navigate experience and scripture,” she claimed, remaining respectful of the divergent views that people have on the subject.

Below, see a portion of an interview between former CNN host Larry King and Knapp back in 2010:

“The reality is this is the choice,” Knapp maintained, although she said that she “hate[s] using that word. “I am who I am. If God is a God who judges and strikes people of same sex attraction — then he’s going to strike me down. This is the way that I am and now I know what it means to fear God.”

Knapp remains hopeful for Christianity on the whole, as she said she’s looking forward to a day when the church is interested in truly delving into peoples’ unique stories.

“I’m dying to see the church get back to stop throwing people out and start listening to the stories that people are having on a day-to-day basis,” Knapp concluded in her interview with TheBlaze.

Knapp came back on the music scene in 2010 with a non-Christian album called “Letting Go.”

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vaman
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:13am
Of course the purpose of this story is to promote outrage at gays. Nothing more. The blaze strikes again with a seemingly nice story about someone in music, but the blaze editors fully understand it has some of the dumbest readers ever and that a story like this will get their bigot fur up. Just look at some of the comments, the blaze got the response it wanted. Whatever the reason this singer left evangelicalism, at least she did and can now begin to lead a normal life not constrained by the hate and prejudiced surrounding evangelicals.

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- rangerp
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:19am
  There was nothing “Christian” about her music in the first place. Nothing new here, just a typical rocker, living in their own filth.
  
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- avgconservative
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:21am
  @VAMAN
  
  Your view is very twisted. Homosexuals are loved by evangelicals. Homosexuality is abhorred. Since you probably can’t separate the two, you will never understand.
  
  Homosexuality is LEARNED.
  
  Young people are MOST attracted to it because they have a shallow basis of comparison in life.
  
  There is no Homosexual gene. Otherwise, there would be no homosexuals. Simple numbers.
  
  Get the politics out, and compassion in.
  
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- rangerp
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:23am
  From the article “A fact some may not know about Knapp is that she didn’t come to Christianity with a clean slate”
  
  That is as foolish of a statement as was ever made. No one comes to “Christianity” with a clean slate. If your slate is clean, then you do not need Christianity.
  
  Jesus did not die to save those with clean slates, he died for sinners.
  
  Rom 3 10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
  
  Rom 3 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
  
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- vaman
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:34am
  AVG,
  Only religious extremists hold your views. It somehow allows you, at least in your own mind, to legitimize not liking someone. The old “hate the sin, love the sinner” is the most egregious example of passive anger religious extremists have in their arsenal and it takes a particular type of arrogance to use it. The same type of extremism and random quoting of the bible has been used to support and promote slavery, Jim Crow laws, the subjugation of woman, prohibition and is now getting aimed at gays and non-believers in general. We despise muslim fundamentalism, but somehow christian fundamentalism gets a pass. It slow, but the world progresses on and we see people turning away from the extremism that makes the world such a horrible place.
  
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- rangerp
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:43am
  In my a above comment, I left out a few words.
  
  “Sex”, they are not talking about between a man and woman
  
  Meant to say – they are not talking about between a man and woman who are husband and wife.
- capitalismrocks
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:47am
  Vaman —
  
  Actually you need to get your head on straight…. Conservatives and Libertarians believe people should be able to live their own lives the way they wish. However they must be personally responsible for their own actions. Sure there are those who are called “bible thumpers” who curse and damn anyone whom they feel is not in line with faith, whether they are gay, straight or otherwise…
  
  Its the personal responsibility part, its also that while you may wish to live your life your way, don’t push it on others, this is true or religion as well. As a Catholic, I don’t push my religion onto others, but I will defend my religion and my faith. There is nothing wrong with LBGT’s but when they have rated R to almost rated X parades on the streets, its digusting and filthy…. if straights did the same thing, dressing in ridiculous sexual tight outfits, touching themselves and making rude gestures in a parade, I’d find it equally as disgusting and filthy…
  
  If you want to be gay, go for it, its your choice, if you don’t believe its a sin, or you don’t believe in God, then when you do pass away you will find out on your own. I don’t support your lifestyle, but I won’t discriminate against you or ban or block you, I would expect the same in kind. Just because I won’t support LGBT doesn’t make me phobic, fearful, bigoted, it just means I don’t agree with your way of life and your choices, as an individual I have that right not to agree and supp
  
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- JQCitizen
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:50am
  RangerP:
  
  Love your comment about the “clean slate”. I also noticed this, and felt it incongruent with Biblical Theology of Salvation.
  
  I would also note that the Bible is very clear that fornication, adultry, and homosexual practice are part of the SIN that we are saved FROM; – and I John makes it clear that someone who is “in” Christ, cannot “practice” or be living “in” SIN. The two are INCOMPATIBLE!
  
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- avgconservative
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:56am
  @VAMAN
  
  My guess is that anyone with a moral compass right of bestiality is an extremist to you, right?
  
  You prove my point… you do not know how to separate homosexual activity and the individual. Thanks for proof.
  
  Ahhh the word “progress” what a key word. What a favorite word. What an identifying word. What a re-defined word.
  
  Amazing how you express your opinion without facts.
  
  There is no homosexual gene is a fact! Proven both by genetic research and by simple deduction. Homosexuals will not reproduce. Those who “perverse” themselves into a hetero relationship and achieve reproduction, still are part of the 0.02% of the population. This gene pool is unsustainable.
  
  Therefore, it is obvious that homosexuality is learned.
  
  You just gotta face the facts. This is a social disease/fad.
  
  And nothing is unforgivable except the denial of God’s existence. These things are written and shown by the Bible.
  
  It takes the inventive mind to pervert these thoughts into your type of mentality, to call them extreme.
  
  If there is progress, it is progress in degrading the human species into an animal. Congratulations, that’s what you guys think anyway, right?
  
  But, wait… we came from animals, right? How is that progress?
  
  Oh, sorry, my poor little ignorant mind is twisting me all up in knots again. Maybe you guys who have the sum total of all mankind’s knowledge should be the only ones allowed to express their opinions.
  
  Oh wait, you guys belie
  
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- rangerp
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:01am
  Vaman
  
  “but the world progresses on and we see people turning away from the extremism that makes the world such a horrible place”
  
  I think you used the wrong word. You used “progresses” when it should say “regresses”.
  
  We are not moving forward with homosexuality, we are going backwards, and in a path toward destruction. We are not the first. Rome, Greece, and others have traveled this road, and it led to destruction then, just like it will now.
  
  there is a reason why gays have such high suicide, drug and alcohol abuse. There is a reason why they have 70% of the new HIV cases, and 64% of the syphilis. The only STDs that they do not lead in, are those that are generally not passed on by anal sex. They are a diseased and miserable bunch for a reason. It is destructive to the individual, and destructive to the nation.
  
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- cessna152
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:11am
  VAMAN,
  
  I been through this so many times.Been Sent threats by the gay community, bank account compromised by gay activists, sent hate mail and email and shunned by school teacher that support them. Call us whatever you want and I know the reasons for the attacks by the gay activists. A few questions I want to ask you;
  1) Why are you a hetero-phoebe? Why do you attack those that believe in “one man to one woman”. Please explain your hatred towards Heterosexuals.
  2) How come when a Christian is ACCOUNTABLE to God we are hateful bigots and when we go against what God says to “appease” you we are hypocrites? Well…which one is it?
  
  So let me get this straight (if you’re not offended by the word Straight), you want Christians to walk away from what God says is wrong and risk disobeying God? For you? A mere human…You know, the basis of our belief is Faith, obedience and serving. Not Disobedience and pleasing those that oppose God. Hmmm… whom should I please. God or those against God…whom do i fear for all eternity?
  
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- HKS
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:12am
  When she takes that last breath I suspect she will be scrambling for some forgiveness for her sins, they always do.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:13am
  “In fact, it wasn’t until her late 20s that Knapp recalls starting to have an inkling that she might be a lesbian.”
  
  If it takes you that long to figure out you are gay, then you are not gay just gullible & brainwashed.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:18am
  Ranger Dan, more Christian than Christ. Ranger Dan the one anointed to to determine what is and isn’t christian. Catholics, not Christian, music made after 1950, not christian, Americans that date to live their own lives and not according to the teachings of Ranger Dan, not Christian.
  
  Ranger Dan, like the Taliban, is on a crusade against music. Regardless of the facts that songs of praise are mentioned in the bible, still Ranger Dan seeks to condemn all music to hell.
  
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- HADEN0UGH
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:21am
  @RANGERP
  “Christian Rock is of the devil. Only one angel in the bible was ever attributed to having power with music, and that is Lucifer. Do you think he might have a little knowledge and ability to use music for his work?”
  
  Why is it that only Christian Rock is of the devil? If the Bible attributed Lucifer to have power over music, why doesn’t that include old time hymns or other gospel songs?
  
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- D-Fence
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:21am
  Who’s outraged at gays or lesbians? I could care less. Don’t ask me or my church to perform a gay / lesbian wedding because, then I have to diminish my beliefs to accomodate others.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:21am
  WALKABOUT..so much for the “born this way” meme the homosexual lobby keeps throwing around. Her story adds weight to the case that homosexuality is a psychologal state, an aberration of the human sexual psyche rather than a genetic predisposition which is what the homosexual lobby wants us all to believe.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:27am
  vaman
  
  It slow, but the world progresses on and we see people turning away from the extremism that makes the world such a horrible place.
  ***
  Really?
  
  You must count funny. In fact you must be lying or just plain insensate. Looking at Demographics & the rights people have or don’t have, there is less freedom. Just look at the Middle East or Europe. Look at how many are persecuted.
  
  We are not talking about disdained. We are not talking about tolerated. We are talking about losing their life, being beat to a pulp persecuted.
  
  Try living as an openly gay male in the Netherlands. You can’t. You won’t. You refuse. Because sooner or later you number will come up. You will look at the demographic shifts, the crime reports & listen to the grape vine.
  
  On the bright side it is not too late for you to learn Polari & keep doing what you do in an increasingly extremist world.
  
  Heck if you learn Polari you could keep on keeping on in Amsterdam, London or NYC right under the noses of the Muslim morality policy.
  
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- rangerp
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:41am
  Encinom
  
  Once again, you attribute a whole lot that I never said or stated.
  
  There is brand new music out there that is very “Christian”, and gives praise. I have never condemned praise worship. What I stated is that there is not such thing as “Christian Rock”. By the pure definition of “rock and roll”, it cannot be Christian.
  
  Notice that you are an atheist, but want to school me on Christianity
  
  As far as Catholics being christen. I believe without a doubt that there are plenty of Christian who happen to be catholic. That being said, Catholicism in of itself is not Christian, nor is it Biblical.
  
  Ranger Dan is not the standard for anything, the Bible is.
  
  The Bible clearly defines marriage. It defines Christianity
  
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- rangerp
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:43am
  Hadenough
  
  “Why is it that only Christian Rock is of the devil? If the Bible attributed Lucifer to have power over music, why doesn’t that include old time hymns or other gospel songs?”
  
  Judge each on its merit, or hold them up in light of Bible truth, and you will see that which is Christian, and that which is not real quick.
  
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- TheEndIsComing
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:50am
  Vaman, it’s sad that the majority of the people in the world choose the path of least resistance and give into their feelings, including homosexuality. It has never been the masses that were saved, usually the minority that walked the higher path.
  
  Keep making your excuses for sinful humanity, but God calls us to a higher moral plane that requires surrender and a different life than what the majority of this world subscribe to. It’s sad that Jennifer had a bad childhood and now sees herself as a lesbian. That will ruin her life. There is hope in Jesus Christ and loving friends and family that can help her leave homosexuality.
  
  You are correct that Christians have been real bad towards homosexuals. They will be held accountable for that. But that does not mean that homosexuality is right.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:52am
  AvengerK
  I can just see a number of guys pining away to peg her & once they do they are like Jennifer who? They figure that once they had Jennifer they can move 1 point up on the 10 point scale. Given a bunch of that crap it is not hard for a woman to convince herself that she is lesbian. The keyword is convince herself. She wasn’t born that way. There are some other dynamics going on, but that may be one of them. Guys can be cads. That is why fathers try reason with their daughters with the analogy “if you give away the milk who wants to buy the cow”.
  
  Jennifer gave away a lot of milk & she never got a relationship out of it. So disappointed she convinces herself she is gay.
  
  I am not shocked. I expect some of this to happen.
  
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- leetpriest
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:02pm
  At this point, I think it’s a fair assessment that VAMAN is a theophobe that cannot cope with his hatred of Christians and Christianity.
  
  His hypocrisy is sad, really.
  
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- sillyfreshness
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:02pm
  Gayness is a mental illness.
  
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- COFemale
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:10pm
  And yet hear you are Vaman adding your 2 cents worth, guess you are just one of us dumb readers. Welcome to your own club.
  
  So you think women on women is hot and sexy? Frankly, it is perverse and disgusting to NORMAL folks. Those who don’t have any moral code have no problem with two guys boffing in the rear. I do.
  
  So I guess you condone pedophiles having sex with little boys or girls too? Where do you draw the line? I draw it at same sex.
  
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- HADEN0UGH
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:22pm
  @RANGERP
  “Judge each on its merit, or hold them up in light of Bible truth, and you will see that which is Christian, and that which is not real quick.”
  
  Exactly. You can’t say ALL Christian rock or ALL contemporary Christian music is of the devil. You should judge each one by it’s own merits.
  
  I also disagree with you on the meaning of rock and roll. It was established in the 50′s (before the drug-induced haze of the late 60′s) and was a blend of black rhythm-and-blues with white country-and-western.
  
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- sickoftalking
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:22pm
  @vaman , what are you talking about? Christians have considered a lot of things sins, which range from minor things to major things, including having sex out of marriage, procrastinating, eating more food than your fill, acting out of anger, gambling, smoking tobacco (its a vice). But the typical Christian no more has “passive anger” towards procrastinators and smokers than towards people in gay relationships. In fact, I’m sure many Christians are procrastinators and smokers. They might hate gay activism, but that’s another topic.
  
  And there may even be Christians who do hate gay people, but it has nothing to do with “love the sinner, hate the sin”, which is as harmless and innocuous in this case as it is with procrastinators, gamblers, and smokers.
  
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- theprofessor1031
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:28pm
  @RangerP. You are gravelly mistaken about there not being any true Christian rock. I play bass in a Christian rock band in Oklahoma called Heaven’s Rain. We are all clean and sober. We are all in church, and our lyrics are all biblically based lyrics. Remember, satan didn’t create anything, he just corrupts it. That means he didn’t create rock music. Please feel free to check out one of our songs that we have posted on FB, and if you have any concerns, please don’t hesitate to contact me, that way you can get your answers from someone directly involved instead of making uneducated comments about it.
  
  Link to We The People, a song we wrote inspired by Glenn.
  
  https://www.facebook.com/heavensrainrocks/app_2405167945
  
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- Pontiac
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:31pm
  @COFemale
  Speaking of little girls. Mary (12), arranged marriage to Joseph (36), conveniently impregnated by “god” very shortly thereafter. But don’t worry, it was “consensual”. Now lets build our entire religion and society on those morals. . .
  
  I don’t want to see two guys “boffing in the rear” either but whatever eliminates the competition and takes two damaged men out of the gene pool is alright with me. Just keep it private.
  
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- rangerp
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:37pm
  Hadenough
  
  “I also disagree with you on the meaning of rock and roll. It was established in the 50′s (before the drug-induced haze of the late 60′s) and was a blend of black rhythm-and-blues with white country-and-western”
  
  Yep, that rock music of the 50s, that had the rhythmic driving beat that just made you want to gyrate your hips, and let down your hair, sure turned sinister in less than ten years. It was just as much about rebellion in the 50s, as it is now. Rock has always been about rebellion, and thus it can not be Christian. Yes, it did originate from the black blues music. It was said that Elvis was the first white man that could do the black mans music. Let us not forget his addiction to drugs. Like most rockers, he died a miserable death, and a death related to his drugs.
  
  You try to justify it, because you like it. Prov 14 12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death
  
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- rangerp
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:41pm
  TheProfessor
  
  “satan didn’t create anything, he just corrupts it.”
  
  Rock music is corrupted music in any form. It can not be hinged to rebellion and be Christian.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:42pm
  Vaman, Encinom
  
  To recap
  We Are Not Born Gay, Sweedish Twin study Shows
  http://current.com/community/89099881_we-are-not-born-gay-sweedish-twin-study-shows.htm
  
  Legalizing Same-Sex Marriage
  Will Increase Prevalence of Homosexuality: Research Provides Significant Evidence
  http://www.drtraycehansen.com/Pages/writings_legalizing.html
  
  Swedish high school student fails bio class for saying homosexuality ‘abnormal’
  http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/swedish-high-school-student-fails-bio-class-for-saying-homosexuality-abonor
  
  I put in the last two links to show why the homosexual agenda must be defeated. They are trying to grow & establish their dogma
  
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- Shiroi Raion
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:49pm
  Never heard of her.
  
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- Pontiac
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:53pm
  You guys need to learn to ignore RangerP (as well as some others on the blaze)… They’re psychotic, among other things.
  
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- 71FOREVER
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:58pm
  @VAMAN I must have read a different article because i didn’t come away with any opinions about bashing gays. What I read was an article that was very moderate, and if anything, was bashing the Christian music industry. I feel the writer was trying to offer us a way to understand where this once-hot artist went and see that she is not misunderstood.
  I felt is was well written, including the negative about the Christian music industry.
  
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- theprofessor1031
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 1:01pm
  @RangerP. How is the music I play hinged to rebellion? Man gave the label to this type of music, doesn’t mean it’s all bad. By your logic, the rainbow is evil, as it has been hinged to homosexuality. By smearing all Christian rock, you are attacking me personally, and I have an issue with it. You don’t know me or where my heart’s at. Are there artists out there that use the Christian market to get a start, absolutely. But not all of us do that. Believe me, it’d be a lot easier to get shows if we weren’t a Christian band, but we stand on the word of God, and do what we do to give him praise, and to lead people to him, through our music.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 1:01pm
  Pontiac
  You guys need to learn to ignore RangerP (as well as some others on the blaze)… They’re psychotic, among other things.
  ***
  & not ignore Encinom, monicne, vaman, vanceuppercut & other trolls.
  
  Okay whatever.
  
  P.S. On the other hand the trolls seems vastly discomfited, when you post good links refuting the scientific basis for their errr … proclivities.
  
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- FatFreedom
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 1:04pm
  @Vaman
  
  Let me clarify for you, and this not meant to be hateful, only truthful:
  
  Homosexuality is on small step above pedophilia and Bestiality. In other words not normal, or according to Gods purpose.
  
  Sodomy was punishable by law for most of time, and perhaps we should go back to that. Being that being able to go to bath houses and public rest stops and having sex with random people when the urge is there is not enough for gays to be content. Then you need to flaunt your perversion with your parades, and push it on the normal people in society. The fact is that gays knows it is a sin and wrong, and when you look at normal married people you are reminded of your own sinful ways. So deep down, many think that if only everybody where gay we would not feel the guilt.
  
  I got news for you, we will never accept it, and in fact the way it is being pushed, I am starting to think that we should look at least to criminalize public display of gayness, to put a lid on you pushing it on us.
  
  I am surprised that you give TheBlaze a hard time, being I am sure that staff members there are Gay, since there is a new gay story everyday, much to my disappointment. In fact I wonder if this post will be posted, since my views of homosexuality, though shared by a large portion, have in the past not been posted by TheBlaze, as they seem to be afraid that if people read what I say.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 1:11pm
  Pontiac
  
  Where is the keeping it private part? It looks like they celebrate, advocate & they to spread it.
  They do it so much so, that your remarks come across as disingenuous.
  
  Legalizing Same-Sex Marriage
  Will Increase Prevalence of Homosexuality: Research Provides Significant Evidence
  http://www.drtraycehansen.com/Pages/writings_legalizing.html
  
  Swedish high school student fails bio class for saying homosexuality ‘abnormal’
  http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/swedish-high-school-student-fails-bio-class-for-saying-homosexuality-abonor
  
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- HADEN0UGH
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 1:11pm
  @RANGERP
  
  So because it was born out of rebellion it is evil? Apparently the entire American existence must be evil because it was based on rebellion. We didn’t want to give Ceasar his due :p
  
  Do you know the definition of a legalist and a liberalist as it pertains to the Bible? A legalist is someone that adds things to the Bible based on their own preconceived notions while the liberalist removes or ignores things that they disagree with. You sound like a strict legalist. No where in the Bible does it say that music, a rock beat, or dance is wrong. There are some forms of music and dance that are against Biblical teachings, but not just because of what they are. It’s like saying money is the root of all evil.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 1:37pm
  Walkabout
  
  P.S. On the other hand the trolls seems vastly discomfited, when you post good links refuting the scientific basis for their errr … proclivities.
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  So post these good links and not the rantings of quacks and bigots.
  
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- Hanner
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 1:40pm
  1 John 2 v4–Anyone that says “I know Him” and does not obey him is a “LIAR!”
  
  This woman is a liar, and she does not obey the word of God. Any argument that supports this woman’s perverted view or lifestyle stands in direct opposition to God’s word. Any argument against the truth also stands in direct conflict with God. God called homosexual behavior an “abomination” and I haven’t read anywhere else that he has changed his mind.
  Rock and Roll: I don’t care when it was created. It was never created to give God glory and praise in the first place. Bringing Rock, Rap, and many other delusions in the church is no different that bringing in the wages of a prostitute, male or female, into God’s house to pay tithes or offerings. These things are of the world and should be left there. You will not Rock your way to God dude! You will approach God with the humbleness and reverence of a child or you will get nowhere. I am stunned at how many people do not read the bible or just flat out refuse to obey it. OR, make every excuse in the world to justify themselves.
  
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- Ghandi was a Republican
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 1:42pm
  Nobody hates gays. Everybody hates gay “organizers” who seek to build their straw man and exploit gays by attacking heterosexuals and their rights as a “get the gay vote” tactic. Very lame, despicable and unworthy of America! Defending everyones rights is not an attack on anyone’s rights.
  
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- The Jewish Avenger
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 1:48pm
  You sure are entertaining.
  
  And wrong.
  
  You just HATE the fact that people dont like homosexuality and the only one thats do HAVE LEARNED THIS BEHAVIOR but to admit to that would also lead to an admitance that perhaps GASP! Your like minders MAY BE WRONG.
  
  So I understand that tolerance peace and diversity thing while being politically racists.
  
  But I dont have to agree with you nor her.
  
  I choose not to; I surround myself with friends who choose not to and I teach my kids and they have taught their kids not to.
  Oh dont get me wrong, we’ll help you when you are poor sick tired and hungry
  But we wont agree with your behavior
  
  and that..
  
  makes you and your kind…
  
  …MAD….
  
  and in turn you end up here trolling to hopefully “*****” someones mind with guilt over the thought that they are suppresing someones livlihood WHILE AT THE SAME EXACT TIME, feel that WE should be repressed so that YOU can have EQUALITY.
  
  No, dont think so.
  
  I have family that are gay and I love them, they fear God and stuggle and because they are human, I know they fall short as we all do. But I’d throw them out the door if they ever tried to tell my kids that their way of life is acceptable.
  
  Lets be clear, if they THINK and express that they THINK their life is acceptable, thats one thing, for them to force their belief on my kids and to make them accept it as acceptable is NOT ACCEPTABLE.
  
  No more than I can come in and force your kids to follow a faith in God. (Which
  
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- petitegirl
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:05pm
  Sounds like straight hate to me!
  
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- ZaphodsPlanet
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:07pm
  She’s gay…….. who gives a crap? My guess is she’s trying to endear herself with Hollywood. Watch…. if her career doesn’t go anywhere someone will catch her with a dude….LOL. Prior to this article I’d never heard of her, now I will forget her name. Another gay chick who wants to be famous…. whopptido. WHO CARES!!!!!
  
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- rangerp
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:24pm
  “Sex is really an exciting part of rock and roll. When I dance onstage, I dance to turn people on. When I’m dancing, I turn myself on as well. Dancing is a sexual thing to do, you know” (Adam Ant, Rock Fever, May 1984, p. 13).
- rangerp
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:24pm
  “When you’re in a certain frame of mind, particularly sexually-oriented, there’s nothing better than rock and roll … because that’s where most of the performers are at” (Aerosmith’s manager, USA Today, Dec. 22, 1983, p. D5).
- Mil-Dot
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:35pm
  Any women who does not know how to handle a man, and would rather handle another women is a biological mistake of the highest magnitude. And notice, she is not a musician, she is a gay musician. The perverts always predicate their occupation with their sexual preference listed first. Ever notice that?
  
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- PiNkFuRy
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:36pm
  LOVE LOVE LOVE Jennifer no matter if she is gay or not! She is a awesome singer and wonerful person!
  
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- theprofessor1031
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:44pm
  @RangerP.
  Psalm 95:1
  O come, let us sing unto the LORD: let us make a joyful noise to the rock of our salvation.
  Psalm 98:4
  Make a joyful noise unto the LORD, all the earth: make a loud noise, and rejoice, and sing praise.
  Psalm 98:6
  With trumpets and sound of cornet make a joyful noise before the LORD, the King.
  
  You seem to condemn the rock crowd, have you bothered to pray for their redemption? Do you minister to them? If not, you are a hypocrite. We are able to go out and minister to people through the music, reaching people that are not normally going to go to church. Unfortunately, people such as yourself push them away with your uneducated vitriolic hatred. Maybe you should come out and watch us play sometime, then you could see firsthand the youth that give themselves to the Lord. You are truly speaking on a subject that you know absolutely nothing about.
  
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- theprofessor1031
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:50pm
  @RangerP I notice you keep quoting secular artists. Don’t you think their view of rock music would be a little different than how Christian artists view it? Again, by your logic, the rainbow is evil. ALL music was given by God, including rock. Man and satan corrupted it, what part of that don’t you get? You keep talking about drugs and sex being synonomous with rock music, yet myself and everyone I know that listens to our music or other Christian rock are all clean, church going people. That alone shoots down your absurd arguments.
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:52pm
  This girl is waaaaaay too pretty to be a lesbian. She’s most likely just frigid down there.
  
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- justadad76
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:56pm
  Its unfortunate that u can be so hateful in the name of tolerance. As for being dumb Ill match wits with u anyday.
  
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- rangerp
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:58pm
  Professor,
  
  It would appear that I am very educated on the subject.
  
  The “rock” in Psalms is Jesus, and has nothing to do with the filth we know as Rock Music.
  
  I condemn no man, that is not my place. I do know filth when i see or hear it. It does not take a whole lot of Bible application and reading of everything that is “rock” and the supposed “Christian Rock” to decipher that both are of the devil, neither glorify God.
  
  One again, Jesus and his Apostles never reached the sinners with offering them the filth of the world. They reached them with the Gospel of Jesus. Jesus preached on Sin, he did not hand it out like the Rock and Roll crowd.
  
  Study with an open mind and heart, pray for wisdom, and be enlightened. your rock music is nothing more than filth.
- rangerp
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:03pm
  Professor
  
  “I notice you keep quoting secular artists. Don’t you think their view of rock music would be a little different than how Christian artists view it”
  
  Your christian rockers are joined at the hip with the secular rockers. They are one in the same.
  
  “Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.”
  
  Rock music is clearly characterized by “the lusts of the flesh, the lusts of the eyes, and the pride of life.” A better definition has never been written.
  
  When asked what is currently in her CD player, CRYSTAL LEWIS replied: “Michael Jackson, Thriller; Billy Holliday; Led Zeppelin; Radiohead, Ok Computer; Radiohead, Kid A; and Sting, Nothing Like the Sun (“Ten Questions with Chrystal Lewis,” CCM Magazine, March 2002).
  
  The worldliness of DELIRIOUS is evident in their choice of “musical heroes,” which include “Radiohead, Blur and other big British modern rockers” (CCM magazine, July 1999, p. 39).
  
  In April 2005, Rick Warren sang Jimi Hendrix’s drug-drenched song “Purple Haze” before his congregation on the church’s 25th anniversary, accompanied by his praise and worship band (“Rick Warren Hits Home
- rangerp
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:04pm
  JARS OF CLAY names Jimi Hendrix and the Beatles as their inspiration (Dann Denny, “Christian Rock,” Sunday Herald Times, Bloomington, Ind., Feb. 8, 1998). The lead guitarist for Jars of Clay is said to be a “Beatles fanatic” (Christian News, Dec. 8, 1997). When asked by Christianity Today to list their musical influences, Jars of Clay members “listed no Christian artists” (Christianity Today, Nov. 15, 1999). Jars of Clay performs Ozzy Osbourne’s “Crazy Train” during their concerts. Osbourne is the filthy-mouthed former lead singer for the occultic rock group Black Sabbath.
- LuvsYeshua
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:07pm
  A key component to being saved by the blood of Jesus Christ is admitting your sin and turning from it every single day (repenting). God has clearly called homosexuality sin in both the Old and New Testaments, and He has clearly punished nations for the outright acceptance of it. If this woman decides that God was wrong about His command against homosexuality, then she is denying His sovereignty.
  
  “Why do you call Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?” (Luke 6:46).
  
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- theprofessor1031
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:11pm
  RangerP,
  I’ll pray for you. You are obviously a religious person, and not a follower of Christ. I believe you have good intentions, however misguided you may be on this subject. I have firsthand knowledge. What I do is a form of ministry, and I have seen lives changed.
  I know you to be a decent person from your other posts, but on this one, you are truly wrong.
  
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- Commander8080
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:14pm
  @ avgconservative
  
  I cannot agree more. It is the sin that Christians should condemn and not the person. More to your point; homosexuality is easy lust and that is why it is so popular. With a heterosexual relationship, a person needs to compete with others for a suitable mate. In a homosexual relations, it is much easier since many courting aspects are waved for the sake of easy relationship.
  
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- scarebear83
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:17pm
  Rap is probably the worst kind of music out there right now. I mean the other day I happened to turn over to MTV and they were rapping about strippers and it seemed just about every other word was bleeped out. Having said that with the the rock n roll of yesterday yeah I can see it was more about sex (Pour some sugar on me, Cherry Pie etc.) But there are some rock songs out there not in the slightest bit are about sex or satanism or have cussing in them (Evanescence). But I’m not here to argue the merits of listening to rock or abstaining from it. The problem I see period, is the use of mechanical instruments in a worship setting. The first century Christians didn’t use them and we are told to sing psalms hymns and spiritual songs, to sing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. (Eph. 5:19 Col. 3:16) The command given is to sing, a person cannot sing with a clarinet in their mouth nor can anyone else sing during a person’s solo or a choir’s ensemble. Plus the command to sing rules out any other. For example, If I told you to go get me an orange that would exclude apples, grapefruits or blenders. I wouldn’t have to say “get me an orange but don’t get me an apple, don’t get me a grapefruit, or a banana, or a blender etc.” It is a specific command just like singing is a specific command that rules out all others.
  
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- RSHLUVER
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:20pm
  Who cares about this woman? Why is it news that she is gay and left Christianity?
  
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- Truthurts
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:39pm
  As you all can see, RangerP has spent a great deal of time and energy gathering quotes from all sorts of rock icons, mostly the unchurched, only to justify his outrageous condemnation of any and everyone involved in Christian rock. RangerP also ruled that referring to Jesus as a rebel is blasphemy. According to my understanding of the New Testament scriptures, Jesus repeatedly challenged the pharisees on their hypocrisy and application of Jewish law. He most definitely rebelled against their overtly pious superior leadership. The pharisees ridiculed Jesus for associating with the unclean, just as RangerP has condemned those that reach out to people in a special language they understand. Jesus compared the pharisees to drinking cups that only appear to be clean on the outside, but are unwashed on the inside. I will confidently follow the path of Jesus before I will follow the direction of RangerP. In order to save a drowning man, you must get wet. RangerP seems to be satisfied standing on the shore scoffing at both the drowning man and the lifeguard. RangerP also seems to have more in-common with the members of Westborough Baptist Church than any Christians I know. I will pray that RangerP will have a change of heart.
  
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- stik
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:45pm
  Ms. Knapp is making a choice, we all make choices in how we live and relate to each other and God. I encourage Ms. Knapp to hold to her Christianity and look into the Bible for answers of her own. I might not agree with all her choices as I imagine she does not agree with all my choices. As a Bible believer it is not my call on what happens to anyone else but me. I can only point out to those I directly communicate with to my understanding of the Bible. I can and do pray for all people, the ones I know I am more specific in these prayers. In the case of Ms. Knapp I hope for God’s best for her just I do for all people.
  
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- toto
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:47pm
  Personally wish homosexuality would just go away. That is not going to happen. Have no trouble accepting that people are likely born wired in that way, though maybe a few who profess to be gay became through experience. All that said, it is PROMISCUITY that is the biggest problem and that IS learned and or accepted, or not. There is no excuse for it. It is harmful to society, but extremely harmful to children!
  
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- ERP
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:49pm
  Who is she again? Somebody important?
  
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- ERP
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:51pm
  @vaman
  
  I read The Blaze daily. I don’t believe I am “dumb”. I have never met your sorry @$$ so don’t assume things about people you have never met you pr*ck.
  
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- ERP
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:53pm
  @vaman
  
  Judging by your statements in this story, I believe you consider anybody who has some sort of faith to be an “extremest.”
  
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- ERP
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:55pm
  @encinom
  
  I’m waiting for the day your fingers fall off so we never have to read what you type ever again.
  
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- jonnydoe
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:05pm
  I have loved Jennifer Knapp’s music since her first record. I’ve been to one of concerts and she is a very sweet and humble person. I wasn’t too thrilled with her decision of “coming out”, but I still love her just the same. Her latest cd “Letting Go” is excellent as well.
  
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- HADEN0UGH
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:23pm
  @RANGERP
  
  You’ve listed quite a few examples where man has interjected his beliefs and has corrupted something. You’ve failed to provide any Bible verses which condemns music or dancing.
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:40pm
  Hadenough
  
  this is RangerP -
  
  It is not my intention, or was it ever to condem music or dancing, both are in the Bible.
  
  What I did, was give you Bible, words from Rockers, words from the so called Christian Rockers to show you that there is nothing christian about Rock music, nor will there ever be.
  
  Drugs, Sex, and Rock and Roll
- rangerskippy
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:42pm
  TruthHurts
  
  “In order to save a drowning man, you must get wet”
  
  Jesus went amongst the sinners, but he never dabbled in their sin.
  
  Drugs, Sex, and Rock and Roll
  
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- 4kidsandacat
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 5:03pm
  I have no idea who this girl is and could care less about her career path. However, I do care about her in as far as she is a child of God and in this respect I will pray for her.
  
  Everything in this world is actually neutral and becomes good or evil depending on whether or not it is used in its proper context. Sexuality, music, dancing, food, drugs (aka medicines)…all of it is neutral until it is placed into a context, then it becomes either good or evil. Using drugs to make a sick person well is good, using them for fun or to escape reality, evil. Just an example.
  
  However, I am a Catholic and since my religion is “not Biblical”, I probably have no idea what I am talking about. Then again, I have taken non-Catholics to Mass with me and they were stunned as to how very Biblical my faith actually is…How can Catholics be Christian but their faith not be Biblical? By definition Christians follow the NT which is in the Bible…I think I need more clarification on this.
  
  How you got from the Blaze posting this article to it being an invitation for gay-bashing is still a mystery to me Vaman. As others have posted, disagreement with someone’s espousal of a particular lifestyle does not equal hate. Calling someone hateful is just a quick and easy way to win an argument.
  
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- Tony Phillips
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 5:29pm
  You’re an Idiot. The Church has taught for 2000 years that homosexuality was a sin in the eyes of God. She left the Lord, the Lord did not leave her. As for church, she made the choice to engage in her lifestyle choice instead of living a life dedicated to Christ.
  
  Maybe you should do some research and study before opening your mouth to reveal the ignorance of your thoughts.
  
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- TEARS FOR AMERICA
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 6:03pm
  A “normal life”, VAMAN, of rebellion against a Living God Who demands our whole hearts and whole devotion is sexual perversion and idolatry. God will not be mocked.
  
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- RWCT
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 6:31pm
  Outrage against Gays, by Christians?? I am a Christian, and I LOVE Gays/Lesbians. I, though, like Christ Jesus, HATE their sin. Romans Ch1 V19 on, is VERY clear what GOD thinks about this sexual activity. HE calls it perverse. Argue with HIM, not HIS disciples. We are to REPENT of our sins. We cannot have salvation without doing so. Many Pseudo Christians, like this singer think they can BARGAIN with God, or revise Scripture in their minds to justify their continuation in sin. Their end, IF they do not repent, will be eternal separation from our creator, and Saviour. I pray she, and others, involved in this activity, will rpent, and believe the good news.
  Maranatha
  
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- debloo
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 6:41pm
  I am a Christian and I do not hate Jennifer Knapp or anyone else for that matter. Saying that all evangelicals hate homosexuals is like saying all Democrats hate Republicans. It’s simply not true. Jesus called us to love. “Just as I am” is how we are suppose to come to Jesus. Then HE alone will do a work in our hearts and lives and make us into the person that HE wants us to be. No where in God’s word do I read we are suppose to hate others. We are to love others.
  I’m not saying homosexuality is the lifestyle that would please our Lord and Savior. But neither is lying, cheating, stealing, or any other sin we commit on a daily basis, all sin is sin it God’s eyes. Where the rubber meets the road is what will I do with the knowledge of Jesus as my Savior and what God’s word teaches me. Because of His great love for me, you know, dying on the cross for me, someone who didn’t deserve His love, having that love in my heart gives me a greater understanding of real love.
  But please don’t keep saying that Christians hate Jennifer or anyone. I don’t!
  
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- lemonfemale
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 8:17pm
  Actually a reply to Avgconservative. At least for some of the more outspoken preachers in my city, it is really hard to see the love. Can’t speak for them all, of course. But the distinction between the sin and the sinner does not get made that often. To be fair, though, would I ever say about a pedophile that I loved the sinner and hated the sin? Probably not. I believe two adults treating one another decently is not sinful, so there I part company with Christian teaching.
  To Vaman, I don’t think this article intended to whip up gay hatred. The writer allows her to say her leaving the scene was not due to her orientation and takes her words at face value, My best to her and her lady.
  
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- FREEDOMoverFEAR
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:14pm
  RangerP you and I probably agree most of the time on most subjects but you have a way of making yourself look really stupid.
  
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- JDale
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:51pm
  Vaman — you are completely wrong about the Blaze editors having some kind of ulterior motive of stirring up rage at homosexuals. That’s just stupid. But then I read a response like RangerRP saying Ms. Knapp’s music was “never Christian to begin with,” and I have to say that at least SOME of the readers of the Blaze ARE as dumb as you charge.
  
  “It is easier to go to a consistent extreme than to stay at the center of Biblical tension” ~ Dr. Robertson McQuilkin
  
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- NOT A CRAZY
  Posted on September 5, 2012 at 12:15am
  Ranger…you do know that many hymns that are sung in church are set to secular music don’t you?
  
  Here is some of my favorite Christian music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljPHcjhqhh8
  
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- NOT A CRAZY
  Posted on September 5, 2012 at 12:20am
  Here is another one of my favorite Christian Rock songs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOEo8TS230Q&feature=fvwrel
  
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- Smeh
  Posted on September 5, 2012 at 4:29am
  “..but the blaze editors fully understand it has some of the dumbest readers ever and that a story like this will get their bigot fur up..”
  We call this projection- the poster claims to know the level of awareness of readers and uses this “knowledge” to project his/her own bigotry. Bigotry in any form is bigotry, and VAMAN unwittingly reveals his/her ignorance with brilliant clarity. BTW- VAMAN obviously reads the Blaze- soooooo.. as a reader, is this an admission of dumbness?
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on September 5, 2012 at 7:21am
  Not a crazy
  
  This is RangerP Because of my posts on rock, blaze blocked me
  
  This is not the first time doing this debate, it always turns out the same.
  
  Show the history of Rock and Roll, and that it is unequivocally tied to rebellion, and that the power and people behind the music are anti Christian
  
  Show Biblically that rebellion is a form of witchcraft, and that Rock Music cannot be Christian
  
  Get accused of judging – show that judging “stuff” is Biblical, but that you are not to judge people in reference to who is actually saved
  
  Show hundreds and hundreds of quotes from secular rockers, in how rock is tied to sex, rebellion, drugs, and is a worship service in itself. Show that the life of rockers is not pretty, and they are generally heavy into drugs, sexual perversions, and often die of suicide, drug overdose, and lead miserable lives.
  
  Get told that I only showed secular rockers to be anti Christian, and left out the so called Christian Rockers.
  
  Quote the so called Christian Rockers, show how they are intrinsically tied to the hip with secular rockers, show that they get their inspiration from secular rock, and are not Biblical in their beliefs.
  
  Generally this is about the time the so called Christian Rock crowd begins to call me names, and “judge” and tell me that I am not a Christian, because I quote Bible, and have lifted the veil, and shown them truth that they cannot deny.
  
  You have to remember, rock and roll is a very powerful drug,
  
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NOT A CRAZY
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:10am
I didn’t read the article but I can tell you this: Homosexuality is an abomination and anyone who is a homosexual isn’t going to be selling very many “Christian” albums. That would be the real reason why she “left Christian music behind.”

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- termyt
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:24am
  I didn’t read your full comment, but I can tell you this: Comments on articles that you haven’t read will probably be off topic and less valuable.
  
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- rangerp
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:33am
  not a crazy.
  
  What most do not understand, is that this modern day “Christian Music” is not Christian at all.
  
  The Christian Rock crowd and Contemporary Christian Music (CCM) is filled with dope heads, homosexuals, and evil.
  
  There never has been Christian Rock, There is none now, and there never can be any such thing. It is not possible.
  
  Fill in the blank from this popular saying from back in the 60s and 70s. Drugs, sex, and _____?
  
  If you guess Rock and Roll, then you guess correct. When they talk about drugs, it is not aspirin, but mind altering drugs for recreation use. Same for “Sex”, they are not talking about between a man and woman. the link that ties all of these together is “rebellion”. the message behind Rock and Roll was never listen to mom and dad, stay in school, read your Bible, and follow Jesus. The message behind Rock and Roll is rebellion. It is drugs, and it is sex. What does the bible tell us about Rebellion? 1 Sam 15 23 tell us that ” For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft”
  
  So can you have Christian witchcraft? The answer is no.
  
  Christian Rock is of the devil. Only one angel in the bible was ever attributed to having power with music, and that is Lucifer. Do you think he might have a little knowledge and ability to use music for his work?
  
  The term “Rock and Roll” was a slang term for having sex in the back seat of a car.
  
  Christian Rock is a misnomer. It is not Christian, and anyone who claims it
  
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- randy
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:34am
  Gee I thought his comment, without him reading the story was Spot On…
  
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- rangerp
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:46am
  Not a crazy
  
  As to your last comments- Well stated
  
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- encinom
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:21am
  If God is opposed to homosexuality, why does he continue to create more gays?
  
  This article is a litmus test, it separates those crazy, fanatical, religious nuts with similar views to the Taliban and unfit to live in a modern, secular republic from the sane citizens that understand bronze age myths have little relevance to the modern world.
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:43am
  I didn’t read the article, but I feel fully qualified to say something anyway and bask in the righteous waters of my ignorance.
  
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- rangerp
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:49am
  ENCINOM
  
  “If God is opposed to homosexuality, why does he continue to create more gays”
  
  God does not make more gays, no more than he makes more rapist, or child molesters. God created man to have a free will. Men chose to engage in these wicked lifestyles or sexual deviances.\
  
  HIV is not God’s punishment for homosexuality as much as homosexuality is a punishment for ungodliness. When nation move away from God, or move away from Biblical morality, they become homosexual. When nations become homosexual, they fall. Every nation that has gone the route of homosexuality as being accepted as normal has always soon after collapsed.
  
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- Truthurts
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:07pm
  RangerP,
  
  As a performer of Christian Rock, I can say unequivocally that you appear to be a bigot for judging a group of people based on your poor biased understanding. You just made outrageous accusations towards me, everyone associated with me and an entire genre that is doing God’s work. We are all sinners, my friend, regardless of the music we perform or enjoy. My brand of music is intended for the market that is ready to receive it. I am OK with the fact that it does not reach you. No problem. You obviously are not in the target audience. While you are prolifically quoting scripture, you seem to have overlooked the numerous Biblical instructions to judge not. I advise you to heed those scriptures and knock it off!
  
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- encinom
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:16pm
  rangerp
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:49am
  
  ENCINOM
  
  HIV is not God’s punishment for homosexuality as much as homosexuality is a punishment for ungodliness. When nation move away from God, or move away from Biblical morality, they become homosexual. When nations become homosexual, they fall. Every nation that has gone the route of homosexuality as being accepted as normal has always soon after collapsed.
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  Not quite, I do understand that Christianity has replaced logic for you, but still lies and untruths are never facts. Your God has never had a seat at the table. Our laws, our Constitution that protects our rights are not divine creations but drafted by men. Your views are more inline with the views of the taliban and others that have no love for individual freedoms and instead seek to restrict the rights of the individual under the repressive boots of theology. I rather be free and condemned, than a slave on my knees to a god of bigots and fools.
  
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- rangerp
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:30pm
  Truthurts
  
  Notice that you did not have the ability to argue what I wrote Biblically, or deny the statements I made about Rock.
  
  You would do well to actually study the Bible. When commanded not to Judge, it is refering to judging who is actually saved. That is up to God. Paul declared, “He that is spiritual judgeth all things” 1 Corin 2:15. It is our positive duty to judge.
  
  Through proper biblical judgment, God protects believers from false teachings since Satan has three goals in leading people to:
  
  DOUBT God’s Word… “Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?” Gen 3:1
  DENY God’s Word… “Ye shall not surely die:” Gen 3:4
  DEIFY Man… “Ye shall be as gods,” Gen 3:5
  
  Satan is using the same lies, as he used with Eve, to deceive people today; unbelievers and believers alike.
  
  We are to “prove all things” 1 Thes 5:21. When there are differences, we are to reprove, rebuke and exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine, 2 Timothy 4:2
  
  Nowhere in the New Testament, did Jesus, or the apostles win people over with filth from the world. They just gave the gospel, and they preached against sin. They did not adopt sin, and try to “Christianize” it.
  
  Rock music is of the devil, and always has been.
  
  If you put a whiskey still in your back yard, and call the byproduct Jesus Juice, you could argue that it motivates, and that people like it. It would still be whiskey, and there is nothing Biblical about it.
  
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- rangerp
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:32pm
  Truthhurts
  
  Once again-
  
  Just because it seems good, or the fact that you like it, does not make it good.
  
  Prov 14 12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
  
  Jer 17 9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
  
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- Truthurts
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:48pm
  RangerP,
  
  You do not seem to be able to follow the very scripture you choose to site. You are in fact judging those that are saved and spreading God’s message in a way that you are incapable of understanding. You are not only preaching to the choir, you are pointing a finger of condemnation. Do you really think that God will look more approvingly at you than me? If so, then I submit to you that their is a veil upon your eyes that has yet to be removed, a veil that you refuse to release. My work here is done. My comments are lost on you, but may be better understood by others.
  
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- capitalismrocks
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 1:01pm
  Good one encinom – you step right over your own argument – “Why would God create more gays”
  
  So lets look at your POV ….
  
  Gays can’t pro-create, not without artificial means, so by nature making one gay (as supposedly is the case versus someone just being attracted to same sex, in no different a way then a man may only be attracted to blondes or big boobs, whatever) but lets go with the whole “I was born this way” crap-science…. well if you were born that way, then it means most likely that there is something wrong with your genetic lineage and that by being gay, you can’t have kids (without artificial intervene against the natural process) and therefor your generic line dies off, so the bad genetics are being killed off by being gay then, so there is your answer to “I was born this way” and God made me gay as you are stating, bad genetics=deadend to your lineage. Even Charles Darwin said that being gay was a deadend because eventually the claim that people are born gay means eventually the “gay gene” will be weeded out through natural selection…
  
  See, no religion, no God…. the argument and counter-argument are put right on the table in liberal-speak – aka “I only accept a scientific explanation” gays are genetically headed for extinction if they are “gay-gene’d” vs. “gay is a choice”
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 1:28pm
  encinom
  
  If God is opposed to homosexuality, why does he continue to create more gays?
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  Did God create Gays or did he allow them to become gay of their won free will? If you have free will then you are able to choose evil.
  
  Funny how it took her until after age 25 to figure out she was gay. Most gays solemnly avow that they knew they were gay at age 3 or 5. That is the gay religious dogma after all.
  
  Please try to keep up enciclown.
  
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- NOT A CRAZY
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:07pm
  Ranger…The Blaze took down my second comment that we agreed on. I just read your anti-Christian Rock comments and I have to fully disagree with you. I have been listening to Christian Rock since the beginning with bands like Stryper, XSinner and White Cross. There have been other bands in between, like Deliverance, that are spot on in their message. Now their are many, many Christian bands that deliver the message to a hurting lost world like no one else can. I like bands like Project 86, Demon Hunter, Disciple, Corpus Christi and so on. Have you been to any of these concerts? I have and I have hung out with some of the band members. I can tell you two things. There are people in some of the bands with questionable lifestyles who are just there to play music. But most of these bands are full of people whole love Jesus and they want to get the message out. They typically give altar calls at the end of the concert and they spend a lot of their time witnessing and helping people. I grew up in AofG churches with a bunch of judgemental people who said the same stuff you said and I can’t find that stuff anywhere in the Bible. You have any scriptures that you can quote, IN CONTEXT, that apply?
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:46pm
  Truth – This is from RangerP
  
  “You are in fact judging those that are saved and spreading God’s message in a way that you are incapable of understanding”
  
  I judge no man. It is not my place to judge men.
  
  What I have done, is use the Bible, the words from Rockers, the words from the so called Christian Rockers to enlighte you that there is no such thing as “christian rock”/
  
  Drugs, Sex, and Rock and Roll
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:51pm
  Not a Crazy – From Ranger P
  
  Your quote “They typically give altar calls at the end of the concert and they spend a lot of their time witnessing and helping people”
  
  Mark 13:6; 21-22
  Many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and will deceive many. At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘Look, there he is!’ do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and miracles to deceive the elect–if that were possible. So be on your guard; I have told you everything ahead of time
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 6:26pm
  By all means ENCIDIOT…explain to me how over 61% of new HIV cases in this country each year are attributed to homosexuals ( who comprise less than 2% of the population-an overrepresentation of more than 2750%). can be conidered “normal” or should be tolerated.
  What’s “normal” about that champ?
  
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- NOT A CRAZY
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:11pm
  Ranger, you must have mistaken Christian rock for TBN and Benny Hinn. If you want to find false prophets that is the first place to look.
  
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- Hanner
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:14pm
  @RangerP– You have made your point crystal clear in your quotes from these so-called christian rockers. Some advice: don’t cast any more pearls before these swine. Those that argue with you at this point are: A- deceived, B- in delusion, C-in rebellion, or D- God has not convicted them in their hearts yet. I will commend you on your stand, good job and God bless.
  
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- FREEDOMoverFEAR
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:23pm
  RangerP you’re just a crazy old cook aren’t you? I bet even your grandkids want you to die. Oh wait you don’t have any grandkids because no woman would procreate with a hatefilled pious pr1ck.
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on September 5, 2012 at 6:54am
  FREEDOMoverFEAR
  
  I am no old enough for grand children yet, but do have kids. They hate the rock music also, and are educated in why it is evil.
  
  drugs, sex, and Rock and Roll
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on September 5, 2012 at 7:14am
  Hanner – This is RangerP Because of my posts on rock, blaze blocked me
  
  This is not the first time doing this debate, it always turns out the same.
  
  Show the history of Rock and Roll, and that it is unequivocally tied to rebellion, and that the power and people behind the music are anti Christian
  
  Show Biblically that rebellion is a form of witchcraft, and that Rock Music cannot be Christian
  
  Get accused of judging – show that judging “stuff” is Biblical, but that you are not to judge people in reference to who is actually saved
  
  Show hundreds and hundreds of quotes from secular rockers, in how rock is tied to sex, rebellion, drugs, and is a worship service in itself. Show that the life of rockers is not pretty, and they are generally heavy into drugs, sexual perversions, and often die of suicide, drug overdose, and lead miserable lives.
  
  Get told that I only showed secular rockers to be anti Christian, and left out the so called Christian Rockers.
  
  Quote the so called Christian Rockers, show how they are intrinsically tied to the hip with secular rockers, show that they get their inspiration from secular rock, and are not Biblical in their beliefs.
  
  Generally this is about the time the so called Christian Rock crowd begins to call me names, and “judge” and tell me that I am not a Christian, because I quote Bible, and have lifted the veil, and shown them truth that they cannot deny.
  
  You have to remember, rock and roll is a very powerful drug, and t
  
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HOOT_OWL
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:08am
Nope not buying it.
She is doing a different version of what the Hollywood movie stars do.. They
become famous and then they come out of the closet.Declaring to the world,
who they really are. whether we are talking about Homosexuality or some worldly
affiliation and if you noticed people like this woman, keep their personal beliefs
or sexual preference very hush hush until AFTER they have made a name for
themself.I have no doubt that this girl couldn’t make it in the highly competitive
pop music world. So she decided to enter into the less competitive world of
Christian music.. And now she is using it as a stepping stone to pursue her true dream.
And this is to ‘Make it in the pop music world’. But in order to do this she needs to
provide shock and awe to secular masses , so that they will notice her,Because its
just not enough for her to be able to sing or play. There a dime a dozen.

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- Freebird
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:30pm
  There you go.You hit the nail on the head.
  
  Amy Grant is another example of what you’re saying.She didn’t come out as a lesbian,but she did leave the “christian music”genre seeking more fame and fortune in secular music.
  
  Look at the countless number of people,early on in the music business,who started out singing in their church,who left that behind to make a career of singing rock and pop songs.
  
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:07am
The earth was without form and void, and humanoids were without form and void. But it hadn’t started to rain yet, and God scraped Adam together from the dust placing him eastward in Eden. Adam didn’t know the rain, and therefore when it finally rained trouble Adam took from that tree, and he fell.

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- jestice
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:32am
  wait. what?
  
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- Dr Vel
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:06am
  watersRpeople lithium is not that expensive. I do not understand why you keep going without it in rebellion against your doctors advise.
  
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ccrabill
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:05am
Jennifer, we are all born with a sin nature, homosexuality being one of many manifestations of that. That is the point of Jesus carrying that burden to the cross, to be delivered from our sin nature thus enabling us to fulfill the high calling of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

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- Wildblue3
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:13am
  Well said. What she thinks is god is actually the devil in disguise
  
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- woodyl1011fl
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:15am
  Satan promises liberation but it is the slavery of depravity and rebellion against God in disguise as the Holy Spirit had the apostle peter to write in 2 Peter 2:18-19 “For speaking out arrogant words of vanity they entice by fleshly desires, by sensuality, those who barely escape from the ones who live in error, promising them freedom while they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by what a man is overcome, by this he is enslaved.” This process has continued to repeat itself since Genesis 3 and the consequences of such decisions are still devastating to the person(s) involved and it is and always has been a decision made to choose what moral choices you live your life by you are either for God or against Him there is NO Third track, you are transformed by the Holy Spirit or you are not because you have rejected Holy and a renewed mind. This lady never let Jesus into her life no transformation ever occurred but Jesus still loves her and desires she come to Him for salvation and eternal life. John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.”
  
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copatriots
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:02am
The sad beginning to her life might be a contributing factor. Pray for her to find the Truth.

“Knapp was born in Chanute, Kansas on April 12, 1974, and was brought up irreligiously along with her twin sister Lori. Knapp’s parents were divorced when she was three and she spent an unhappy childhood with her remarried and abusive father until leaving home at 18″

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- avgconservative
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:02am
  VAMAN
  
  Nope… you are taking the views of a few, and throwing the blanket over the whole group.
  
  I am confident that the world will descend into abomination. You are evidence of it.
  
  I know for a fact that when Jesus returns, the world will be in total chaos. You are adding to it.
  
  It is a certainty that the world will not understand sound thinking. You are clearly a part of this.
  
  There is no doubt that people will replace God’s intention, with their own. Here, you have a PhD.
  
  Just some observations… I leave the validity of my statements to the Lord.
  
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oldduffer
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:02am
Sure going to be a lot of divorced and unhappy people when the homosexuality fad goes away.
Lot of screwed up people that just want to be wanted and have problems dealing with life.

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- vaman
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:17am
  Good point, I mean that fad has been around since the beginning of recorded time, but sure it’s going away very soon. Living stupidly is your choice, but please don’t share it with the rest of us. As we see in many cases of blazers, stupidity is contagious.
  
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- avgconservative
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:29am
  @VAMAN
  
  Again, you seem to be the ill-informed one.
  
  The “fad” refers to the “coming out” not homosexuality. Man’s burning desire for the same sex has been around from time immemorial. It has never been an accepted practice. Every culture shuns it. Except “post-modern” man, who has made it into a fad to come out and main stream the perverse and unhealthy lifestyle.
  
  Maybe YOUR ignorance needs to be bottled up.
  
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- vaman
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:47am
  AVG,
  “when the homosexuality fad goes away.”, is the quote. No mention of coming out at all. Cultures up until puritanical societies of Europe had and accepted homosexuality. Today, virtually everyone accepts it, except for the extremists. The greatest downfall of your argument is the world today. Gays in the military, gay marriage getting accepted and promoted in the civilized nations of the world, out-of-the-closet gays as your neighbors and guess what, nothing has happened. The dire predictions of doom promoted by the extremists has not come true and never will. So your argument will continue to fail. The world will continue to move forward, but religious fundamentalists want a world that is based on nonsensical superstitious beliefs from the past, that are of no value in a modern world.
  
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jammin johnny
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:01am
Maybe she’s just a liar and taking the path of least resistance. It’s probably a lot more profitable to be a homosexual in the entertainment business.

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- SSG Tal
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:55pm
  “Like a good chess player, Satan is always trying to maneuver you into a position where you can save your castle only by losing your bishop.”
  
  C.S. Lewis
  
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Beckaj
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:59am
I wish there was more tolerance from both sides on this issue. We have to be true to what we believe, but in the end it doesn’t matter what we think. We are not the ultimate judge. We are all sinners and it will be up to God to make the final call as to what our fate will be after we die based on the life that we have lived.

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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:14am
  Well, that’s your opinion but it’s not biblical. God tells us in advanced how we know where we will spend eternity. Jesus didn’t hang on a cross to tell us to try to be good. He did it to tell us we can never be good enough. But by faith in His grace and sacrifice, we can spend eternity with Him. Quoting what God says in His Bible is not being extreme, it’s being honest.
  
  Not telling someone the Truth is not being kind nor is it helping anyone. We can be honest and compassionate at the same time as Christ was. But He NEVER equivocated on Truth!
  
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- encinom
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:24am
  AT Squid, do you have wear clothes made of different types of cloths? What about eating shell fish and pork? You don’t have any tattoo do you or slept with your wife after her time of the month but before she was able to clean herself according to biblical laws? Or do you pick and choose the laws you will follow to help hide your bigotry.
  
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- BrutalTruth
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:51am
  Encinom,
  
  Reading for comprehension is always a good thing. Now, to whom were these laws given and why?
  
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termyt
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:59am
We spend way too much time talking about our sexuality and almost no time dealing with the issues that spring from it. We would rather condemn folks who think differently than try to understand and reason our way through.

It looks like Ms Knapp is truly seeking, and if that is true then she will find.

Homosexuality is not consistent with Biblical teaching, but neither is lying, divorce, adultery, and a myriad other lifestyle choices that seem to attract much less attention.

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Detroit paperboy
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:59am
Uhhhhhh, never heard of her, and could not care less what she is having sex with,,,,,,next.

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- BODYBAG
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:20am
  Ditto
  
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- nappy
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:04am
  ditto
  
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zorro
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:58am
She’s a hottie.

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SquidVetOhio
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:58am
“This is the way that I am and now I know what it means to fear God.”

That is the most untrue sentence in this whole story. Like all heretics, they love Jesus. It’s just that pesky Bible keeps getting in the way. So they invent their own version of “Christianity” to fit their lives and justify their personal sins instead of repenting of it.

“Let God be true and every man a liar.” – Romans 3:4

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- Vigilent American Citizen
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:07pm
  I think she speaks the truth of the ‘Word’ with that statement.
  
  This is the way I am … I know the fear of the Lord
  
  She feels the fear of the Lord in her life daily obviously. ” …The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom …” If you are not operating in the fear of the Lord you don’t even have the beginning of wisdom. It’s just earthly, sensual, and of the devil!
  
  Father bring her to the understanding and acceptance of your Word I pray this in Jesus Name!
  
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PutMoreOnMyPlate
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:58am
K so this article is here to see who would throw stones at who. Well I’m not buying into it.

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woodyee
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:57am
I didn’t need to know she was **** – did you? Why put it out there? Because to a ****, sex is their life’s priority.

Dingleberry here says she was “a woman of the world” prior to becoming a Jesus follower, and explained that she had “a lot of sexual experience, drank [and] smoked”. Okay, so prior to her “conversion”, she was a brain-dead slutty dope-er. AFTER her “conversion”, she became a RICH brain-dead slutty dope-er, but found the Road to Peace too rough a road to stay on. Such is the Liberal mindset;

to be a Liberal, all you have to do is surrender your morals (or redefine morality) and agree with the perceived majority. THAT’S the EASY road…

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watersRpeople
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:56am
I think what she means is that Christ puked her out, and not the other way around as those ones would have you believe, because they want to make it about themselves to draw people out with them.

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Stelex
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:55am
Its really sad that these folks define themselves through there sexuality. I never struggled with my hetrosexualness……..CAUSE ITS NORMAL

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- Obamujahadeen
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:08am
  Exactly and to do what they do is ABnormal. No one cares who they $#%^& but they do because if they don’t make a federal case out of it they can’t ‘normalize it’ and pull in new recruits.
  
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tothepoint
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:52am
Fearing God means we must respect Him and His Word.
Christians don’t “fear” God as they would fear something that is out to hurt them.
Christians respect God and His Word.

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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:01am
  “Whom the Lord loveth He chasteneth, and scourgeth every every son He receiveth”
  
  The fear of the Lord is akin to the fear of disobeying your parents. We love our parents and know they love us. But, will take to paddle to us when we need it for our own good.
  
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DamocleAurelius
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:51am
She seems to be genuinely struggling with reconciling her sexuality with her Christian beliefs. I do not agree with her current decision. But I hope that she continues that struggle tho, as who knows but maybe she can turn around.

Don’t be so quick to judge, my fellow Christians.

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- Gonzo
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:09am
  When someone is telling the world that practicing homosexuality and maintaining a relationship with God is not only possible but, acceptable to God… we are required to judge.
  
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- vaman
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:19am
  Thankfully, your judgement doesn’t matter.
  
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- avgconservative
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:35am
  @VAMAN
  
  Again, your stupidity calls me to comment.
  
  There are two types of judging. One is eternal. The other is common sense.
  
  You judge people on TheBlaze as ignorant and foolish automatons. You judge correctly in some aspects, but in error with others. That is your right and responsibility as a human.
  
  Christians have the right to judge who embraces their core values… not only the right, but also the command. Jesus said to judge ourselves by our “fruit.” Homosexuality is not “fruit” of God’s will in anyone’s judgement.
  
  HOWEVER… eternal judgement is not up to ANY Christian. It is The Father’s, and The Father’s alone.
  
  GONZO and others are warning Christians to not be too hasty in judging whether or not she can return to her senses.
  
  Have I helped your ignorance any? Or do you care?
  
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- Shifty6
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:46am
  I don’t think we are supposed to judge. I think we are to tell the truth – that she is wrong based on what God has said in His Word, NOT on what I think, or anyone else for that matter. We are also called to hold her accountable to her actions as a believer. If she chooses to ignore that accountability, we are to look at her and treat her as a non-believer. So in other words, we are to trat her with respect and love…no different than we should treat everyone.
  
  Look, if she wants to be gay, that is cool with me. It is not cool with God regarless of what she wants God to think. I got my own problems to worry about.
  
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- vaman
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:00am
  AVG,
  Ignorance is something you have a lot of. The message is clear. Your personal belief in god is not relevant except to others that believe the same thing. That is why your judgment or the judgment of your god means nothing and your arrogance prevents you from acknowledging that fact. I’ll make it is as simple as possible for you. Always question the intelligence and sanity of anyone that wants to set 21st century social policy, based on extremism, on a book of myths cobbled together during the Bronze Age. Although you don’t continue to use medical practices from that era or continue to use the science of that era or the governmental forms of that era, you have chosen (this one is a choice) to use the religious tenants of that era; at least your distorted view of them.
  
  Have I helped clear up some of your ignorance and more importantly your arrogance? No? That’s a shame.
  
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- Wango
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:09am
  GONZO! Yes! We are required to judge! That’s obvious! If not us, who? If not now, when? Reminds me of a story, You’ll like this. A rock n roller – and we now know thanks to RangerPee can never be a Christian – actually crapped in his pants for a week to avoid military service AND AND AND he’s a self-avowed pedophilator.
  
  I teenk you gots some judgin’ to dooooooooooo! I look forward to your denunciation (and your flowing robe!)
  
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- TeresaJ
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:47am
  @ Damo
  
  That is exactly what I thought about it. She said she doesn’t know if she’s right or wrong. She shows a respect for God and whatever decision that He makes. That is a most important quality. It’s when you shut your heart away from God that is troublesome path.
  
  Chastisement and stone-throwing can be a fine line. A few comments on here seem to go over that line. Especially the ones that seem as if they did not even read the article. God knows the heart, and He knows if the comments were meant in chastisement with love, or not.
  
  In response to RangerP above, I agree that much of Christian music today is not very Christian, and I have never heard of Jennifer Knapp. But I disagree that Christian Rock is a misnomer. Music is just music until it is expressed through the artist, which gives it whatever degree of purity or unpurity it will have. There is some very good, scriptural Christian Rock out there.
  
  So, with all that said, I have a song that I hope will not come off too preachy to my fellow Christians, and maybe teach a thing or two to Christian and non-Christian alike. Call it my sense of humor to this thread. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WToYXi3Z_k Even Christians could lighten up sometimes. :)
  
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- Gonzo
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:36pm
  I didn’t make the rules Wango, just trying to tell you what the Bible says..because you’ll never bother to read it.
  
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- Judeo_Christian
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:45pm
  VAMAN, why come here? Is the point to argue for argument sake? If you do not believe in God, you have that right. God gave you that right (some things are true whether you believe in it or not. )
  
  I don’t come to gay or liberal websites and tell them that they are idiots if they don’t believe as I do. So what is it that brings you here? Your tone makes it obvious that you are not here to engage in civil discourse.
  
  I believe in God because science asks me to believe in impossible odds. The religion of science asks me to believe that 13 billion years ago, some accidental event occurred where all the energy in the universe happened to concentrate itself into one incredibly small space. Doing such on its own volition. It then caused an explosion in which this energy turned into mass, created all the known atoms in existence. The Big Bang THERORY.
  
  It gets better. The religion of science wants me to believe that from this explosion the mass shot through out space creating stars and planets. It is just an amazing occurrence that our solar system has the correct size of sun, burning just right temperature. Also that around this sun is a planet that contains just the right ingredients to support what we know as life.
  
  It still gets better. The religion of science tells us that by shear coincidence some of the chemicals mixed together in just right amount that life sprang into existence.
  
  Yet you tell me that I believe in fiction. Kettle…this is pot. You
  
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- Freebird
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 1:18pm
  @VAMAN
  Using your pretzel logic,the same could be said about your comments on here.
  You’re saying that whoever believes in God,has no say in this matter,simply based on the fact they believe in God.Doesn’t that disqualify your argument based on the same premise?
  Finally,
  “I’ll make it is as simple as possible for you. Always question the intelligence and sanity of anyone that wants to set 21st century social policy, based on extremism”…
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 1:22pm
  WANGO, Take a good look in the mirror, or simply re-read most of your posts. You cast judgement on practically a daily basis here.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 6:18pm
  WHACKO..nice to see you take some time out of your “busy” retirement to post more of your drive-by insults at the Blaze champ.
  This time you passed judgement on people passing judgement. Hypocrite much?
  
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4smohrs
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:51am
um does sodom and gomorrah ring any bells…..any? Let me help you out Jen!

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 – “Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” (NIV).

.1 Corinthians 6:11 – “And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.” (NIV)

Leviticus 18:22 – “Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.” (NIV)

Leviticus 20:13 – “If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.” (NIV)

Romans 1:26-27 – “Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.” (NIV)

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- PPMStudios
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:05am
  Since you apparently like the NIV translation, let me direct you towards one more;
  
  Matthew 7- 1-5 (NIV)
  
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- copatriots
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:24am
  @ PPM
  
  Galatians 6:7
  
  Christians are called to be discerning so that they are not deceived. A Christian society accepting immorality in our culture will not end well for us.
  
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- morostheos
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:32am
  @PPMStudios
  
  Ahh, the favorite verse of liberals and the most mis-quoted verse in the Bible.
  
  Since you apparently lack reading comprehension (like the 99% of people that quote this verse and think it means you shouldn’t judge people because they don’t read past the comma), here’s an explanation of what is being said in simpler terms so you can understand it:
  
  You are not to judge UNLESS you are willing to be subjected to the same standard. What happens at the end of verse 5? You are told that you can remove the speck from someone else’s eye (ie judge them) but ONLY AFTER you are certain that you have met the same standard (ie remove the log from your own eye).
  
  We are commanded to judge but we are to do it without being hypocrites.
  
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- PPMStudios
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:37am
  @morostheos
  
  Wow! What arrogance you have!
  
  First, I’m not liberal. Second, I am very capable of comprehending what I read. Third, I’m merely pointing out that the ‘holier than tho’ attitude from those ‘claiming’ to be Christians is really amazing.
  
  Finally, I don’t know a lot of ‘liberals’ who quote the Bible with the high-handed authority and condescension as those ‘so-called’ people claiming to be Christians.
  
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- morostheos
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 2:05pm
  @PPM
  
  Apparently, you still need some help with reading comprehension because I didn’t call you a liberal. I said it was liberals favorite verse. I’m sorry if that hit too close to home for you or if the distinction is lost on you. And had you comprehended the verses you threw out there, you wouldn’t have posted them out of context in an attempt to silence someone providing relevant verses.
  
  I understand that I appear arrogant to you. That is often the case for the person who is wrong. I’m just stating facts. You either lack of comprehension of what you read in those verses or you are lying by twisting it to suit your purposes. Take your pick. I’m just telling you what it actually says as opposed to what you were trying to imply it says.
  
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- PPMStudios
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:47pm
  @MOROSTHEOS
  
  What did I imply? I said “Let me direct you towards one more”.
  
  The implications are on you. No facts in that?
  
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- morostheos
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:19pm
  Fair enough. I assumed your implication. Tell me I’m wrong about what you were implying. And when you do, make sure you include what you were implying.
  
  If you can’t tell me I’m wrong about what you were implying (because we both know what you were implying), then stop diverting and just admit you simply wanted to use that verse to silence somebody you thought was judging somebody else because you mistakenly think that verse means we shouldn’t judge.
  
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teddrunk
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:49am
Just another gay individual trying to tell the world how normal they really are and their deviancy shouldn’t offend those who truly believe in God. The sad thing is, so many morons buy these deviant tales of still being a Christian.

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- 4smohrs
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:54am
  Let’s help little jen out here –
  
  1 Corinthians 6:9-10 – “Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” (NIV).
  
  .1 Corinthians 6:11 – “And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.” (NIV)
  
  Leviticus 18:22 – “Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.” (NIV)
  
  Leviticus 20:13 – “If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.” (NIV)
  
  Romans 1:26-27 – “Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.” (NIV)
  
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NewLife24
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:47am
We have turned to our own ways and denied the creator who bought us with His very blood. We have embraced sin. After death not so sure there will be all the celebration. Sadly. Very Sad. I am praying for this child who was misled.

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Eastinfection
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:47am
This makes me think of the opening “crawl” at the beginning of “IT’S A TRAP!”- FamilyGuy’s parody of “EMPIRE STRIKES BACK”:
………..A LONG TIME AGO.. BACK BEFORE GAYS WERE ALL UP IN YOUR FACE ABOUT IT…
I support everyone’s right to pursue whatever social lifestyle they prefer. It’s the people who stand on American street corners screaming about what they do with their genitals that bug me.

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- nonliberal
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:06am
  exactly!!
  
  DO IT AT HOME AND LEAVE ME ALONE!!
  
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ltcwilly
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:45am
Ahhhh, the 34,000 denomination lie has to be continually droned until everyone believes it. Poor Jennifer.

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Gonzo
Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:44am
“she is doing the right thing — at least by her own standards — in embracing it” Couldn’t a pedophile make the same claim? It’s not your standard that counts lady, it’s God’s standard you should worry about.

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- Mandors
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 9:54am
  Agreed, the Tree is known by its fruit.
  
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- vaman
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:23am
  The judgment of your “god” is highly irrelevant. It looks like she is finding many churches that don’t use the bible to promote hate, but are accepting of her and whatever life god has chosen for her. She chooses to reject extremism and prejudice by leaving the evangelical church and not turning back. Good for her.
  
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- avgconservative
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:41am
  @VAMAN
  
  It is true, that if you do not care what God thinks, His judgement is irrelevant. You speak the truth.
  
  It only becomes relevant 1 second after His judgement. Until then, I guess you are right.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:57am
  @GONZO: pedophiles don’t have consenting adult partners. Same with sheep- shaggers.
  
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- Gonzo
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:41pm
  OK then East substitute alcoholic for pedophile. Some say there is an alcoholic gene much like the gays are looking for a ‘gay gene’. So a drunk can drink himself into oblivion every day and he is doing what is right in his own eyes.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on September 4, 2012 at 1:38pm
  @GONZO I don’t believe drunks or gays were born that way but i certainly believe drunks can drink all day if they want. I likewise believe gays can be gay all day if they want. PS: this IS a good analogy… Have you ever tried to “help” a drunk get sober who didn’t want help and had no desire to quit drinking? Pretty big waste of time and effort.
  
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