Anderson Cooper: Wasserman Schultz Living in ‘Alternate Universe’ Regarding Dem Platform Change
After the ugly scene that played out on the floor of the Democratic National Convention Wednesday, during which the Democratic Party amended their platform to reinstate “God” and mention that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, CNN’s Anderson Cooper went to DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz for her reaction to the entire ordeal. But after she spoke, Cooper determined she was living in an “alternate universe.”
CNN’s Brianna Keilar asked Wasserman Schultz on the convention floor how she felt as one of “the most prominent Jewish lawmakers” when she learned that any mention of Jerusalem being the capital of Israel was struck from the Democratic platform.
Wasserman Schultz said a “technical oversight” led to the omission, adding that the platform was amended to reflect President Obama’s personal views and the views of the Democratic party. Conveniently, the DNC chair said a “technical oversight” also led to all references to”God” being left out of the platform.
“The bottom line is we’ve taken steps, we’ve amended it, President Obama felt it was important to reflect his personal view and it’s done. And we’re moving forward and continuing this convention,” she said, adding that she is very proud of the president’s record on supporting Israel.
But that wasn’t what sent Cooper into a tizzy. Even though video of the platform amendment vote shows a chaotic scene, many people booing and hollering in protest, Wasserman Schultz argued that “there wasn’t any discord” during the vote.
After watching the interview from the CNN studio, the always fair Cooper said: “I mean, that’s an alternate universe.”
Cooper reminded his audience that it was Wasserman Schultz who attacked Mitt Romney’s campaign because “it is the candidate who sets the platform, who designs and writes the platform. It wasn’t true when she was saying it two weeks ago — but now isn’t it fair if she claimed that about the Republican platform to claim that about the Democratic platform?”
“From a reality standpoint, you can defend it, as the head of the DNC, but to say flat out there was no discord is just not true,” Cooper added.
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Comments (295)
capitalismrocks
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:25pmAnderson will still vote Obama, but at least he’s willing to admit Wasserman is 1 gallon shy of a gallon.
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JBaer
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:30pm“1 gallon shy of a gallon.” Love it!!!
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cramerchronicles
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:30pmShe is crazy and always contradicts herself. Speaking about flip flopping! cramerchronicles.com
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v15
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:49pmThis wasn’t a random act of journalism from CNN. This was revenge. Remember when Debbie Wasserman Schultz misquoted the LA Times story regarding Romney and abortion and used those lies to raise funds for the DNC? She lied about it to Anderson Cooper for over seven minutes and I believe he took this personal because she basically said he was misinformed and stupid. I think this was less about politics and more about Anderson Cooper showing the American people what a deceitful liar this woman is. And, in doing so, he exercised some journalistic integrity – Wasserman Schultz tends to have that effect on people. And, yeah, that‘s the first time I’ve seen her tame that Medusa-with-snakes-meets-a-pot-of-Ramen-Noodles **** of hers.
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randy
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:59pmBullShlT!
Here is Obama real view on Jerusalem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZLe_p_OwjpE#!
Or did we forget.
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sillyfreshness
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:03pmDebbie Wasserman Schultz=”chosen people” leftist, progressive, Marxist, communist propagandist of the Democratic Party (Communist Party). Just another “chosen person” in high places controlling the masses. Typical.
Democratic Party=Communist Party, Worker’s Party, Labor Party, Marxist Party, Bolshevik Party or whatever you want to call them. Either way, they are evil.
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ugot2believe
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:07pmJust sent a contribution to Karen Harrington running against Debbie, I cannot tell the truth, Schultz. Please send a contribution every time she tells a lie, so we can get her out of office. http://www.karenforcongress.com
badge02812
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:11pmWOW !!! Debbie is either deaf, a total dumbo or lying through her teeth for political expediency.
I hope her Jewish constituents are watching this !!!
I hope all Israel is watching this !!!!
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Detroit paperboy
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:19pmWhat’s gotten into Anderson Cooper ? Ewwwwe wait, don’t answer that, sorry……yuck.
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:27pmShe, like many other Democrats, especially their boss, will look you straight in the eye and lie to your face, even when video exists showing the opposite, they will deny, deny, deny. The ONLY reason they switched back was that they saw they were going to lose votes. They quickly found out that a lot of democrats aren’t completely ready for pure socialism.
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db321
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:58pmGood, I’m glad CNN and Debbie Philis Diller got that straight. There for a while Obama’s Muslim heritage was coming out 60 days to early. Every Dictator knows you don’t throw God out and ignore Israel until after the most important election. Once reelected Obama you will have more leverage to wipe the Jews and Christian off the face of the earth like a good little Muslim.
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Debra1776
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 12:13amI honestly do not know how anyone can interview this woman–when asked a direct question concerning her party and party politics she continually answers the question with, “well the Republicans are hurting women and taking away the rights of the poor” and that type of answer never has anything to do with the question that was asked. And by the way, did all of the prominent democratic women get makeovers to think they would be able to fool us with their half-truths? There is just a really different aura surrounding this group of people–maybe it is the ‘collective’ attitude showing up.
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Sirfoldallot
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 12:17amAnderson Cooper scratching his head saying ” WTH ” ?
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mtnhimike
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 12:30amDebbie Blabbermouth Schultz will be history as soon as the Convention is over they will send her to the showers and bring in a new pitcher.
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Smoke Ranch
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 12:31amOne flake short of an empty box.
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mharry860
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 12:40amAnderson is at least honest. He may be gay, he may be a liberal, but he doesn’t let untruths pass by. You have to respect him for that, unlike 99% of the liberal media. He’s the only lib media person that I can watch the clips of, I actually respect the guy. We could sit down and talk and agree on nothing, without either of us being mad at the end.
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Sirfoldallot
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 1:09amDoes Anderson Cooper watch Modern Family & cry ?
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getitgotitgood
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 1:32amevery democrat there is going straight to hell. especially dws the whore
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JACKTHETOAD
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 5:15amOMG! Is that the same woman, or was she kidnapped and replaced? I think she cleaned up very nicely for the show. Almost even…gulp…pretty. …nevermind…
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biohazard23
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 7:34amJack, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Was it beer goggles? A momentary lapse of reason? Yikes!!! Help us understand! ;)
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Bill Rowland
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 7:42amDebbie takes lessons from Joe the Joker Biteme. It takes training to get both feet in your mouth and your head up your rectum at the same time.
OMG Nov 6, 2012
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 8:33amCooper is still a Communist but it looks like a little “realism” is shinning through !
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NHwinter
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 8:37amWatching both conventions and asking, which one do I feel more comfortable supporting? The Republican convention made me feel like I was in the world I grew up in, patriotic, happy, and hopeful. The Democratic convention made me feel like I was in a foreign land with hostility toward the America I have loved and hostility toward anyone who disagreed with their socialist agenda. The DNC was a scary, angry, hostile place. Everything they say about Republicans is a projection of what they are and what they are trying to do to our Republic. It just felt evil.
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TAXLORDCOMETH
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 9:46amThey never fire their incompetent leaders from Pelosi to Reid to Schulz — these just lurch from one embarrassing moment to the next.
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drbage
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 10:02amMy goodness, another random act of journalism from Anderson Cooper! Debbie Washerwoman Shoes doesn’t recognize nor acknowledge the truth even when she is presented with a video of what she said. Just following the Demoncrat meme of never letting the truth get in the way of the meme. Like Dick Turban’s attack on Brett Baier and FOX news regarding God and Jersalem in the party platform on Tuesday and then being unavailable for comment on Wednesday. For those who still practice the dying art of using common sense, the Demoncrats may be running, but they have fewer and fewer places to hide.
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NancyBee
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 10:58amV15…Word must have gotten back to her about ****!! LOL
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De minimus
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 11:01amFirst last and always, she is a Marxist and that dominates everything in her world.
Everything else is a distant second place to that, even being a Jew and the welfare of the Jewish state of Israel. This is so with all Marxists. Marxism is pre-eminent in their lives and everything revolves around those beliefs. They gave up on critical thinking long ago and of course any serious discussion of they ideologies.
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TomSawyer
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 12:49pmI think someone should call Guinness’s book of world records; I think Debbie just broke the record for the most obvious lies by one person.
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Bluebonnet
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 1:56pmFinally dawned on me, that most of the Democrat women are chosen because they are capable of being dumbed-down and can twist the truth faster than my wringer washer.
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Whistleblower
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 2:25pmFormer Rezko partner says he gave Tony $400K for Obama
http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2012/02/27/former-rezko-partner-says-he-gave-tony-400k-for-obama/
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trtmntdude
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 3:19pmAwesome!
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DenverKitty
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 3:36pmShe’s got more than a “little leak”. hahahahahaha
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AzTopCat
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 3:50pmHo wonder she is so crazy did you see how tight her **** is curled. What a lap dog for the Obama administration. Ruff Ruff Debbie
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markbhoward
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 4:39pmI would have expected the phrase to be Debbie is ’4 quarts shy of a gallon’. Thanks for using measurements the liberals can understand. ’1 gallon shy of a gallon’.
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BadDog40
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 9:41pmTruthfully, I’ve been watching some CNN, and have been amazed at Anderson Cooper lately. He sounds like he’s really trying to keep it on an even keel. Wolf Blitzer too. Could it be that losing 75% of their viewers over the last year is having an effect. Kind of fun not to have to watch Fox 24/7. Now it’s only about 22/7.
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randi3927
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 1:16amRotflmbo
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Callie369
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:36pmI wouldn’t want to bet more than a dollar that Anderson will vote for Dumbama!!!!! That’s all I can afford to lose. If you pay attention, he is a lot more conservative than you think.
As for Muttonhead Schultz, i think a better description would be, “she’s 5 quarts shy of a gallon.”
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Puddle Duck
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 9:58pmJbaer and Cap….I say we extend that excellent Will Rogers-esque metaphor to …..DSW, a gallon short of a pint.
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Scarybones
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:24pmThe leftist Media has been backed so far into a corner that even they have to call her out or lose all credibility. We have hit critical mass!
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702TruthSeeker
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 4:36pmAC better be careful or he’ll end up just like Juan Williams, yet another washed up lefty who was stupid enough to question the machine, thinking that the truth means anything to them
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perry1980
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:24pmdebbie schultz has never met a LIE that she did not like to tell. Exposed again
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dwilco77
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 3:10amIn 2011, the White House removed any reference that Jerusalem is the Capital of Israel. This is the current Administrations platform. How is this fact missed by all News shows including Fox.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/white-house-cleanses-israel-website_588127.html
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ozchambers
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 9:49amDWILCO, That is a brilliant point and I wish you were a member of the MSM. That point is absolutely spot on and the original changes to the platform perfectly reflect Obama’s views on Israel. The Dems had just hoped these changes would be overlooked and that they wouldnt have to answer any questions about them. The REAL journalists of alternative media exposed these changes and forced the MSM to ask some questions and the reversal is nothing but obvious damage control. The video and audio of that farce of a floor vote should be playing from every media outlet. When progressives show their true colors, the majority of Americans move away from them. For what it’s worth this CNN segment is a little taste, while not anything close to a full serving, of what journalism is supposed to look like.
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jimv2000
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 11:26amNever met a lie she didn’t like? Sounds like she’d fit right in at the RNC too!
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Magnum1
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:21pmThis just in – the Democrat Party has just inserted another new statement into the platform. The statement acknowledges for the first time that “George W. Bush isn’t actually the devil, but is, in fact, related to Satan on his father’s side.”
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HappyHaloHousewife
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 8:48amFunny!
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bikerdogred1
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:14pmMars rover has found a house on mars under a rock and they believe it to be long to little Debbie wasserman Shultz.
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repairsea
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:14pmA pair of air heads that slept their way to the top.
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wheeler44
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:14pmAnderson better straighten up. He’s straying a bit from the media reservation. His name will be mud if he keeps asking real questions and not toeing the party line.
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cemerius
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:56pmSince he is Gay he will be untouchable……
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CatB
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 12:05amHe better be careful. … the Muslims don’t like gays anymore and even less than women.
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Freedombeliever
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:13pmThis is a desperate campaign. A DNC that has to lie about attendance for the final stadium event being cancelled due to “weather” (20% chance of showers) while we all know it’s lack of attendance. The scramble to add God and Jerusalem back into their platform after outrage. And 3 hours of speeches (only televised on C-Span) pretty much only talking about allowing abortions and women’s reproductive rights! An insult to ALL women!
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13th Imam
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:18pmNuttin like DEMOCRATS for slicin and dicin babies
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timetobelievenow
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 4:48amYou sound like the total Idiot,that you are > your DumbAss comment just proved it !
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hillbillyinny
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 6:21am@ Freedombeliever
You are 100% on target!
The Dems realized they had gone too far with the platform as originally stated–just listen to the blow back on several shows, even on some of the MSM. When they saw that it was not just Reps who were using their “no God, no Jerusalem capital of Israel” stand against them, they quickly saw that to keep even black Christians and those Jews who are Jewish in more than name only, they needed to “correct” their miscalculation!
By stating that it was the “President’s position,” they address two issues, calming down some of the uproar, AND trying to put Obama in a better light (even though Obama’s God and Christianity is much different that Bible believing Christians that many black Christian are), and we know Obama’s stand on Israel through his actions!
The DNC is totally out of control. They’re trying to be too many things to too many people, and it will not work. You cannot support socialists and communists, while keeping a base of active, believing Christians, Jews (religious or not!), the gay community and Muslims who hate Jews, homosexuals and Christians!
The Great Deceiver is hard at work! And those hungry for power will use all of his ways to try to grab that power.
Self-centeredness, humanity’s greatest sin! “I will be God”!
My mom told me about the socialists and communists during the first half of the 1900′s, and I’m now getting to watch them back at their old tricks in my day!
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betsyyoung
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 10:07amYou are spot on with everything you said!!
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yiska8
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 7:18pmPure DESPERATION. Left wingers are a scary bunch. Not even the Southern Poverty Law Center knows how to study or has a protocol to target radical left wingers, only the we RIGHT wingers are a threat. The radical liberal wing of the Democrat party is riding on FAIL SAFE. If they win, Americans LOSE. If they lose, they’ll cause chaos and riots. Either way, it seems like in their deranged minds, their going out in a “blaze” of glory and Americans lose again. Godless bunch.
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yiska8
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:13pmI saw this whole thing. The reporter tried to get Debbie out of the obvious lie she was placing herself in, but not brainwashed lib Debbie. It was so ridiculous. “We have no dissention.” While the boos were clearly heard in the background as God and Israel were placed back onto the platform. She held on to the talking points SPIN according to Team Obama. Say the lie enough and people will believe it. Apparently Obama loves Israel! And backs Israel! And stands by Israel! How proud she was tonight along with being suuuuuuch a devout Jew herself. Taking her Jewishness to work daily! NO ONE BUYS IT DEBS!! The spin,the lies, and the alternate universe that Debbie highlights yet again how ridiculous, and mentally unstable she and Obamanite are. I laughed watching Anderson Cooper’s face! Not even he could believe what she was saying.
TOO LATE Anderson.
You and your network created and nurtured this nightmare and now you got to deal with the insanity in the form of this President,Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and countless others. Thanks a lot Cooper.
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00gabooga
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:12pmShe’s FROM an alternate universe, summoned here by Aleister Crowley in a dark ritual.
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teddrunk
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:12pmShe’s a woman, so of course she is ignorant and evil. The handmaiden of Satan himself. Like all women she’s a liar. A truly loathsome creature.
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chips1
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:26pmYou need a Viagra badly. Remember to inflate Judy before you take it.
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teddrunk
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:37pmThat’s OK Chips. Just don’t lose you wife’s purse when she makes you carry it while she shops.
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kansas hawks 3
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:43pm@teddrunk, May I remind you of who has been running our country= Men. Who has been lying their @ss off=Men. I think that you let your personal life cloud your ignorant mind that is most likely empty. Not all women are as stupid as your and the morans that have run our country in to the ground.
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bry
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:51pmDear Ted…as a woman, I would just like to say that you are a really nice man, and, also, good looking and smart.
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teddrunk
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:58pmHey Kansas, the word is moron, not moran, genius.
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teddrunk
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:02pmThanks Bry, and, (biting lip) I feel your pain, too.
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garb67
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:56pm@kansas Hawks3-DWS is a woman who has been lying her ass off. Elizabeth Warren is another women who has lied her ass off. While I am sure that are many liars in this world, please don’t insult anyone’s intelligence that only men lie. She’s a politician, and you know the only way to tell if a politician is lying. Class? Bueller? Anyone? That’s right , her lips were moving. Even Howard dean couldn’t hold a candle to this Pinnochio.
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JACKTHETOAD
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 5:45amA few bad apples don’t spoil the whole bunch Ted. Sober up a bit or become a master baiter. See, it’s working already. I’ve responded to you. I hope you wife does too.
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teddrunk
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 6:50amA few bad apples? Exactly who do you think votes in traitorous Communists besides the minorities & deviants? Why women of course. Example: Watch an old Ted Kennedy speech. Check out the crowd. Overwhelmingly female. Think about it. Women applauding a man who killed a woman. Did nothing to save her, and invented the waitress sandwich, and he’s a hero to them because of his support of them killing their own child. That’s stupidity and evil of biblical proportions.
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ginger100
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:12pmHo hum 4 more years.
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13th Imam
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:06pmAndy will still vote for The One, in the end.
Liberals are liberals, first, last always.
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Freedombeliever
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:15pmOf course he will, but every time one of the left comes out with a truth like this, it could sway just a few more handfuls of independents. Far left is hopeless, we need the independent vote!
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bpodlesnik
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:21pmI wouldn’t be so sure, but we can only hope he won’t.
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Gums
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 7:14amI think the independents actually hate Israel just like the Democrats. At least the Paul pots do. I talk to them all the time and they are more anti-Semetic than the average Dem. A lot more actually. I’m sure most of you reading this have seen it in their comments on the Blaze and youtube. They scapegoat the Jews and Americans. It is the blame America AND Israel first crowd. The average independent that you are referring to probably doesn’t read the news or even know what really Israel is. No, the real independent votes will come from the diseased economy and being mislead and straight up lied to.
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deadend
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:05pmShe is so full of dug. How do you know when she is lying she is taking a breath. Good GOD (or mabe I should say ala with these ah’s) would not suprise me if this Odummer is the anti Christ. Come on guys you know they were booing God they are communists.
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Leadthemtothelight
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:12pmAnderson Cooper: Wasserman Schultz Living in ‘Alternate Universe’ Regarding Dem Platform Change…..Anderson Cooper the voice of reason? Holy ****! somebody pinch me I MUST be dreaming. You know how you can tell when the libs are lying right??? Their lips are moving :)
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DarkJello
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:30pmThe libs strike again! So many unforced errors in the DNC.
Why in the world do they deserve 4 more years? “Incomplete” is correct.
Cooper called it straight up during his analysis.
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BlackCrow
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:03pmThis is bad. Anderson Cooper can no longer cover for the lies pouring out of the mouths of Communists. Who’s next?
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Sy Kosys
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:34pmIf its Chris ‘Tingles’ Matthews, watch your head for some terminal velocity amphibians
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Pedro
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:03pmIf it was good enough for ObamaCare then why not the DNC platform? Debbie Washerboard-Schultz is simply following the same line of argument. You hear racial slurs when there are none and no discourse even when both are caught on tape. Who are you going to believe?
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Whiskey_Tango
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:01pmLike him or not, AC has been up DWS’s ASS about the hypocrisy of her and the DNC. She is going to singlehandedly destroy the democratic party, and I can’t wait to watch it all unravel!
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NewLife56
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:00pmHell, she isn’t part of any realistic universe
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Freedombeliever
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:08pmAnderson nailed that one! “Curly” does nothing but spout bald-faced lies and denials. Kinda like Jay Carney. Only worse. I am enjoying this – watching the demons dig themselves into their own grave.
Romney/Ryan 2012!
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dusko
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:00pmCooper is turning on his own people?
This could get good!
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:06pmCooper living in an alternate universe as well… where grown men take it up the wazoo for the love of Pete. WAIT, that’s his reality. Listening to either of these two makes my head hurt…
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chips1
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:11pmCooper only turnes on his own people if they are males.
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JACKTHETOAD
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 5:48amTurnes? Olde English much? I love it. If you’re a woman, marry me. If you’re a man, disregard this comment please.
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762x51
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:59pmOh Donkeycrats, when you’ve lost Anderson Cooper, your party is toast. Apparently, the only living argument in favor of abortion, Debbie W-S, has pushed Anderson too far or his hypocrisy will only go so far and is insufficiently huge enough to cover the Socialist party.
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dealer@678
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:58pmIf Shultz is Jewish she one day is gonna stand before the King of the Jews and have to answer for her lies. I pity her
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chips1
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:21pmI’ve said it once before, but I actually expected to see green pea soup splatter all over the reporters face. I even think she can spin her head all the way around.
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Meyvn
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:58pmSound like they have “technical issues”.
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red_white_blue2
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:57pmThese people would say that a nuke from Iran was a stray missile. They never intended to launch it. God they are stupid!
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Alvin691
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:56pmFor once, her **** actually looked nice.
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beatobama
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:02pmActually, her **** is the antenna she uses to connect with her alternate universe.
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Todd P
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:02pm@ BEATOBAMA:
ROFLMAO! Hehehehehehehe
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huey6367
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 7:56am“The bottom line is …” which means: I don’t want to talk about this anymore.
I was never for or against Cooper but he is starting to reflect what a journalist is supposed to be – centered.
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kaydeebeau
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:54pmWow another random act of journalism from CNN
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1me2ao
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:00pmEither for commercial so he can claim to be neutral or planning on jumping ship.
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