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As reported on TheBlaze, Democrats returned the words “God” and “Jersusalem” to their DNC platform on Wednesday afternoon. The vote was controversial and actually booed by many in the hall.
Shortly after that content change, Mark Alan Siegel, the Palm Beach County Democrat Chairman spoke with Scottie Hughes of Patriot TV and made some rather pointed and anti-Christian statements. Mr. Siegel was wearing a “Jews for Obama” pin. Ms. Hughes spotted the pin and asked the chairman about his support for Obama despite the administration’s record with Israel.
Here are a couple of the offensive comments made by the Palm Beach Democratic Chairman:
“I’m Jewish, I’m not a fan of any other religion than Judaism.”
“The worst possible allies for the Jewish state are the fundamentalist Christians who want Jews to die and convert so they can bring on the second coming of their Lord.”
You can see the full interview with Mark Alan Siegel on Conservative Videos.
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The Third Archon
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:16pmTo call Mr. Siegel’s speech “anti-Christian” is HIGHLY disingenuous–it would be far more more accurate to say he is opposed to Christian Zionism. Moreover, if THIS is what constitutes “anti-Christian” (i.e. being a firm believer in one’s own, non-Christian, religion to the exclusion of all others) then Christians are EVERY BIT AS GUILTY of the EXACT SAME ARROGANCE in the own professed belief and rejection of all other religions as false. He suggests nothing more than Judaic version of the typical Christian opinion on all religions NOT Christianity.
The_Jerk
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:25pmProblem is, he speaks as a Jewish Zionist that is not against Zionism, but rather, the Christian version of Zionism. He is anti-Christian.
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paperpushermj
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:31pmNo matter how you cut it … It was a Stupid Comment that will play well in Romney’s Florida Ads.
sillyfreshness
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:09pmJews are traditionally very Marxist. They were behind the communist revolution in Russia and they are behind it in the US today. Jews are no friends to Christianity or conservatives. That’s why I don’t understand this love affair the right has with Jews, because it’s a non-reciprocal love affair. Stop kissing Jews @sses because they haven’t done anything for conservatives except fight them on every issue. Jews are a lost cause and let the Marxists (Democrats) have them and keep them. Let Dems try to deal with them.
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DarkJello
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:29pmSay what you want sir, but his comment was very dumb at best.
I would move away from any attempt to defend the merit of the statement.
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Seede
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:29pmTHIRD ARCHON
What in the world are you talking about? Did you not comprehend what you have just read? It could be no clearer to any one that can read English.
Re read this portion — “I’m Jewish, I’m not a fan of any other religion than Judaism.”
“The worst possible allies for the Jewish state are the fundamentalist Christians who want Jews to die and convert so they can bring on the second coming of their Lord.” —
The Jew said that the worst possible ally is a fundamental Christian. The very people who fed them billions of their taxpayer money over many years and fed and clothed them for as many of those years. And this guy is a democratic chairman of the Palm Beach county in FL. He’s supposed to be foremost an American but is proud to inform the Christian suckers that he is foremost a Jew. This is the very reason that the world has turned against the Jew. There is no thank you involved and one day in this near future there will be repercussions of this very attitude that the Jew has. This explains one of the reasons that the Jew has and always will be socialists.
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AmericanEagle1392
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:32pmHey, Third Reich. What planet do you live on? He said, ““The worst possible allies for the Jewish state are the fundamentalist Christians who want Jews to die and convert so they can bring on the second coming of their Lord.” Sounds pretty anti-Christian to me. This from a guy who belongs to a political party that has put Israel in dire jeopardy. There is no way Israel can rely on this crew of Democrats to watch its back.
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billjac
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:41pmThird archon, substitute Islam or it’s equivalent for Christian everywhere in your rant and you will be correct. Otherwise you just parrot the bigotry and ignorance of your fellow Obama supporter, Siegel.
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jwmedina
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:42pmIt is one thing to say that you are opposed to Christian Zionism, it is quite another to claim that “fundamentalists” want to see the Jews slaughtered. That is pure distortion and hate-induced slander. That man has a serious problem.
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DesertRose1960
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:49pm@Americaneagle, The man is talking about people like Glenn Beck and John Hagee and Josh McDowell and Hal Lindsay. These folks claim to support Israel, but they don’t want Jews to continue with their way of life. They confuse and conflate Israel, Judaism, and Zionism. They want Jews to be what they imagine them to be, not what they are. Mr. Seigel told you how he feels, it’s how a lot of the Jews I know feel.
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Shiroi Raion
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:53pmHe’s a real conspiracy theorist… a seriously crazy one.
Psychotic anti-Christian, apparently no one vetted him.
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tbl10
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:59pm@SILLYFRESHNESS You couldn’t be more correct sir. Their are 2 types of Jews in the world today just as there was during the time of Jesus. The Ashkenazi Jews aka (Zionists) are the ones that have and continue to create all the problems in the world. They do not believe in Jesus Christ being their Savior, these would be the Pharisees of old and the money changers that Jesus chases out of the temple. Jesus refers to them in John 8:42-47 are the children of Satan and they belong to the Synagogue of Satan. Then you have the Sephardic Jews that have been persecuted throughout time because they do believe in Jesus as their Savior. Hopefully, one day people will realize the lies of the Ashkenazi (Zionists) and pray to Jesus for their forgiveness. For now America needs to stop supporting them and support the true Israelites, the Sephardic Jews of Israel. The destruction of America will come at the hands of the Ashkenazi (Zionists) they hate America because we are a Christian Nation and seek to destroy us because of this. We must stand with Israel and ask forgiveness for the attrocities that this country has committed because of the Ashkenazi Jews. Only then will this country be healed and continue to receive the blessing of GOD.
http://rense.com/general95/myfarewell.htm
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Mil-Dot
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:00pmI’ve always wondered why the American Jew sides with the evil communist progs. I always thought in the back of my mind that it is because they don’t like Christians. In fact they hate them. There is no other explanation for why the most accomplished ethnic group in the world will side the the most vile disgusting progs. They both hate Christians. That’s why.
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To the Point
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:08pmsillyfreshness,
In general, the less religious a Jew is the more likely they are democrat. The same holds true for Jews who were socialist, they were either non-religious or close to it.
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DownWithDems
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:08pmThe statement about Jerusalem was put back into the RNC platform, but both the below statements from the 2008 DNC Platform, have NOT been put back into the platform.
-The United States and its Quartet partners should continue to isolate Hamas until it renounces terrorism, recognizes Israel’s right to exist, and abides by past agreements.
-The creation of a Palestinian state through final status negotiations, together with an international compensation mechanism, should resolve the issue of Palestinian refugees by allowing them to settle there, rather than in Israel. All understand that it is unrealistic to expect the outcome of final status negotiations to be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949.
Why not Mr. Obama?
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Iron Rider
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:12pmYou are a fool sir, Christians have always supported and identify closely with Israel, and if you knew anything about Christians in America, besides your own obvious and disgusting prejudiced opinion, you would know that they refer to themselves as Judeo Christian. Here sir, learn something besides the prejudice garbage you spew. http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0304/prager_2004_03_30_04.php3
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Lordcsmith
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:17pm@TBL10 Zionism is a political movement within Judaism and is more often embraced by secular Jews than religious jews, the folks that still follow the Tikkun Olam. Ashkenazi just means they descended from the German Jews or central European. Sephardic is Spanish or Iberian Peninsula. There’s Mizrahi, middle eastern or african as the third main sect with various smaller sects in the diaspora. It’s not conspiratorial. Google is your friend………
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Pilgrimsarbour
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:19pmI don’t get the part about wanting Jews to die and convert. Perhaps he doesn’t understand that we want people to receive Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour for their own sakes BEFORE they die, since afterward it’s too late. I can’t get past that phrase die and convert. I guess he thinks we think one is as good as the other?
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cramerchronicles
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:29pmHe probably doesn’t realize Jesus was Jewish. Christians are not the ENEMY! cramerchronicles.com
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PutMoreOnMyPlate
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:32pmThe whole point (at least the point I live by) is that being gracious and generous to someone doesn’t ever get the gratitude the act “deserves.” This does not mean Christians should stop (unless it becomes blatant enabling). Give when you can and don’t expect anything back, because people will let you down. Take when they don’t expect anything back, because you will let them down. Then take only as a last resort. If the person outright rejects you then walk away. There is no argument needed or complaining, they made their bed, they have to live in it. But always be gracious and generous when you can because everyone will be at the point in their life where they need the help of someone else. Call it karma call it what you will but show the same grace and love that God gave you.
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Nlitend1
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:37pmJews are indeed communists. I can attest to it because I am a jew and at our meetings, where we talk about taking over the world, we pledge out loyalty to stalin and those other guys. No, but seriously, these statements are exactly how I feel. Fundamental christians are crazy, just like any other fundamentalist religious group–including those orthodox jews. I’m sure they don’t mean any harm in it, but being a diehard religious zealot requires that you think that people who don’t share your views are evil, or damned, or abominations. Maybe one of you zealots would clarify this for me…Is he wrong? You are looking forward to the second coming, right? And this does require Israel and the Jewish people, or so I’m told. Why should I see you as my friend? Fundamental Christians don’t send aid to israel, America does. America is a secular country, no matter how many times you say it is a Christian nation. At any rate, you have a new target that you just must hate now. That’s all I ever notice from so many of you very very christian folk on this website…hate.
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TiredOfIdiots-1
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:41pmTo SillyFreshness:
Wow. Jews are Marxist. And Jews are Communists. And they control Capitalist Wall Street. And they control the Banks. And they’re good with money.
I hear they’re really really smart too. Must be to be behind Big Business, all the major Capitalist areas of the economy AND all the major Socialist and Communist agenda too. They must be effing brilliant!!!!!
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v15
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:04pmYeah….I think The Blaze went overboard with the “Spews Anti-Christian Hate” and tried labeling Christianity from a Jewish person’s perspective as hate speech. I clicked on the story expecting flat out hate speech but after you put it back into context and the background the guy is coming from, it was an overreaction by The Blaze.
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tzion
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:07pm@TBL10
Congratulations on being the most ill-informed person on Judaism that is arrogant enough to pretend otherwise. Sephardi Jews don’t accept Jesus any more than than Ashkenazim do. If they did, they would be Christians. Sephardi Jews are Jews who lived primarily under Muslim rule during the period when the Muslims still controlled Spain. For Jews living under Muslim rule (since contact with more Christian areas was difficult due to Christian-Muslim animosity), The Jewish community of Spain (Sepharad in Hebrew) became a cultural center, much like Persia had been before it. The differences between the two groups include slight changes in prayers, different ways of wrapping the Torah scroll (Sephardim use a cylindrical box of sorts while Ashkenazim use cloth wrappings), and different synagogue layouts.
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jewbait
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:26pmguessing Alan understands the origin of his name Siegel is from old German ‘Sieg hiel’ – very becoming to this PB sand ******, back to the soap factory for you Al
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Max jones
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:33pmNone of you jerks know the first thing about Jews, Israel, or what is at stake. You spout the same unreasoned claptrap that your mentors have spouted for decades…..You won’t be able to stop what God has started. I know the progressive agenda and its “self-salvation” philosophy. Go for it. Save Yourself. Save the world. Save those little twisty things off the bread wrappers.
You don’t even know what question to ask…but you spout off about “solutions”. claptrap.
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Constantine Ivanov
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:44pm@SILLYFRESHNESS:
Unfortunately, I as a Jew agree with you. (Sorry, I am very much Conservative Jew, though.)
Pathological gravitation of Jews toward Socialism/Communism/Kibbutz-ism/Liberalism and other types of Marxist onanism (even many years after the oppression of Jews in Tsarist Russia ended and no social or moral grounds for any Marxist rebellion are left) is fundamentally incompatible with the kernel American values….unless America wants to be “fundamentally transformed” into Bolshevik Russia, as Obama shouted in 2008.
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KevINtampa
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:55pmThis man is to Judaism what Obama is to Christianity.
Do not let this man’s evil tarnish your love for the Jewish people, just as you don’t accept people taking the words and actions of Obama to be a representation of the true Christian faith.
What you are witnessing is the rise of the false prophets, do not follow these men; and know they abound in every walk of life. It is a trick. Just as Ba’al is no longer worshiped around an alter of sexual sodomy whilst swimming in feces but rather in the immediate self gratification of lesser desires, the false ones no longer wear robes and write scripts tricking those to turn against God, they now wear suits and speak to you over the airwaves and 0′s and 1′s. Evil has always been first to use technology against the human soul before the human mind can wrap itself around it. This is why religions that have taken into account thousands of generation’s of history into their philosophy have always warned about advancing technology before the human mind can rationalize it in terms of good and evil; it has always given evil the advantage of trickery of the human mind.
We are all now so inundated with lies that the truth even if found would hardly be believed. Evil does exist, and evil is winning.
Always stay true to yourself and always stay true to others. Do this, and evil has no place.
To the trolls who incite to simply cause a rise in people for the lulz, may God forgive you.
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Mr SId
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 12:03amThe problem here is that we aren’t talking about Christians, we are talking about the DNC chair who just accused most of the country of wanting a holocaust. Instead of shifting the blame why don’t you condemn what he said?
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paperpushermj
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 12:14am@nliten1.
At any rate, you have a new target that you just must hate now. That’s all I ever notice from so many of you very very christian folk on this website…hate.
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WHAT!!!!! You come here, do a drive by,making broad generalizations along with disparaging remarks do your best to stick your finger in our eye and finish your remarks with… Oh Pity me, you people will be picking on me… you hate me…… PLEASE
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Chet Hempstead
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 12:29amThis is absolutely not anti-Christian and not hate speech. The people that Mr. Siegel describes really do exist. They are a very small percentage of Christians, and a very small percentage of Christian supporters of Israel, but they very much are false allies who Israelis and other Jews would be wise to distrust.
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Ded-Bred
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 1:12amJudaism worships the same GOD as Christians. The early church, including Jesus Himself, worshiped LORD GOD of Abraham, Moses, David, etc. And how can Christians convert Jews if the Jews are dead?
The basis for such accusations are sophomoric @ best. That DNC politikker is a traitor just for kissing up to those who want nothing more than killing his whole race. No defense for it- God will handle it.
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AvrahamYishai
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 1:25amTo all our Christian friends, don’t let this man’s inaccurate views taint the good relations that we Jews now enjoy with you and yours. Most of us in the Orthodox Jewish world (and many outside of it) are grateful for the Christian support for Israel, and the plainly obvious spirit of repentance that so many of you exhibit for the Church’s past abuses of Jewish People in past generations. Those of us who have worked closely Christians know and understand that much of our theology is shared, and that where we differ is no cause for animosity. We extend our hand in friendship and fraternity. And together we pray for our ignorant brethren — both Jewish and gentile. May all peoples everywhere be united in their love of the Creator, and may we all embrace Him and seek to walk steadfastly in His ways. And may the Almighty send the Redeemer speedily in our days, and bring an end to all bigotry, blindness and hatred.
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Ohello
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 2:18amThe guy doesn’t support the religion of Judaism, He supports the Jewish race. Most Jews are anti-Christian, even though Christ himself, and all the apostles were Jews. It is no different today than it was 2012 years ago when the Jews through the Roman empire crucified Christ. The establishment Jews did not believe Christ when he walked the earth, and they do not believe Him today.
That said, God says that salvation comes through the Jews (meaning Christ). This guy does not understand Judaism either. The Old Testament (Torah) clearly prophesies the coming of the Messiah in the end times (ref: Isaiah, and Daniel). The fact that he targets Christians as causing the return of Christ and the end times means that he is not a believer of the OT Scriptures. In fact, nowhere in the Bible does it say that anyone can cause the return of Christ. It simply says that when all the crap that is happening today…. happens, Christ will come and destroy evil.
Iranian leaders on the other hand have stated that they think they can hasten the return of the Mahadi by cause blood to flow through out the world.
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Tacitus Talks
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 3:30amActually, a Christian believes Christ will return whether the Jews “convert” or not. According to Zechariah, they will embrace the Messiah upon his return.
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Your uncle
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 6:07amTo The_Jerk No. He is against Christian Zionism.
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weneedrubio
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 6:13amThat’s two of the most ignorant statements I’ve heard, he says we want them to die which is insanely dishonest. The basis of Christianity is respect for all people regardless of their beliefs and tolerance for moronic statements like yours. You and this Dem hater should talk about things you know about and stop the childish insults. The biggest reason we need Romney elected is to get grown-ups who actually do care about someone other then themselves running things. Go back to your comic books and bong and get out of the way.
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muffythetuffy
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 7:11amCHRISTIANS?
It was Democrat Liberals who are now a Godless party not Christians. It was Democrat Liberals who voted against Israel not Christians. It was the Democrat Party that Booed God not Christians.
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Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 7:14amThis guy is a schmuck and sadly very typical of too many liberal Jews. Personally, I don’t care if Christians support Israel because they want the second coming of their Messiah. Anyone who supports Israel is welcome. I’m sure God likes them too.
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twilsa
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 7:57amIt is so sad to see a man who has clearly misplaced his tin foil hat.
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chicago76
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 8:02amIsrael is an ally. Marx and Engels believed that Jews needed to be destroyed because their belief in God prevented them from becoming atheist-communists. Read the Marx-Engels treatise on the Jewish question. Also Marx believed that American Christians equally needed to be destroyed because they like the Jews would not accept atheism-communism because they like the Jews had accepted an individual God. Not a collective God or atheism. Israel certainly has not proven it is a friend, but it is an ally. Communists are the enemies of Israel. Atheists are the enemies of Israel. Both Adolf and Stalin tried to resolve the Jewish question. Communists are the enemies of America. Atheists if they are communists are also the enemies of America. Just the way it is.
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DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 8:10amThe Jews inhabited the land Israel sits on thousands of years ago…long before Muslims were created out of thin air by a murderous, pedophile thief in the 7th century. The Muslims have no claim to that land – except for what liberals have granted them out of their own hatred for the state of Israel.
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jerryeyes1999
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 8:23amJews create more anti-semitism than anyone else on the face of the earth.
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dviljoen
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 8:43amI’m sure that my Jewish wife and Jewish children would be surprised to discover that I want them dead. It surely was a surprise to me, until this tool pointed it out.
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DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 8:44amJERRYEYES1999 – didn’t Hitler say something like that as he led them into the gas chambers? Blame the victim for your own crimes – it’s their fault you hate them.
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Whistleblower
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 9:01amIs President Barack Obama being blackmailed ?
http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2012/09/01/is-president-barack-obama-being-blackmailed/
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Deacon1
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 9:50amI think your a little confused here. Unlike most people’s belief systems, we do not consider being Christian a “Religion”, in fact we consider ourselves a an off shoot of the Jewish faith because that is the origins of our faith. We support Israel, not to convert them, but because we are instructed to under the tenets of our faith and because God instructed us to in the Bible. As far as us trying to bring the “coming” of Christ ?, sorry but we do not have the power to do that, nor do we have any idea when that will happen because we have never been told when. Yes we believe the Bible to be correct, but every person of every faith believes thier faith to be the correct one or it would not be a faith. WE do not dislike, hate, or exclude any other beliefs. We do not refuse to employ, help, or do anything for any other faith, unless our actions may cause harm.
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Nae
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 9:55amThe Third Archon: Lies and more lies! I know of NO accepted Christian leader going around saying “We want ‘so and so’ to die so we can hasten our Lord’s return.”
You’re wrong on this. You’re trying to equivocate and defend an indefensible comment.
Are you just spewing hate for your own gratification?
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ChildOfTheKing
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 10:12amI agree with HIS right to free speech. Let him and let them all talk. IT WILL BE TO THEIR VERY OWN END.
The true followerS of Christ LOVE THE JEWISH PEOPLE – PERIOD, no matter what they say or do because they ARE God’s CHOSEN PEOPLE.
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djward77
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 10:28amThis guy has it all wrong as do most people who don’t understand Christianity or the Bible. Christians do NOT believe that the slaughter of the Jews will be the cause for the return of Christ. Muslims believe that their Mahdi cannot return until all of the Jews are destroyed. Furthemore, it is a common perception that Christians are arrogant because we refuse to compromise the truth of the Gospel with false religions and worldly doctrines that exist solely to sooth people’s itching ears. Truth is a divisive thing by its very nature because when truth exists, everything contrary to the truth is false. Anyway, I pray for all unbelievers to actually research and study the word of God before criticizing or attacking it. I pray that all of us can find a way to have a dialogue in peace. However, peace cannot come on the account of compromise of God’s Word.
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TEARS FOR AMERICA
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 10:45amSo, Christians want to kill the Jews? What??? Jesus was a Jew…warped teachings brings warped thinking who are bigots and this is a, sorry to say, sad example of hatred. This is no different thinking than radical Muslims.
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techengineer11
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 10:54amI just pray that the Jews do not slaughter us since that is their history and tendency and they do run America today…
They rule America with an Iron Fist!
Most idiots on the Blaze think that it’s Liberals, Progressives, Elites, Bankers… etc. lol You are so deceived.
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techengineer11
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 10:58amChildOfTheKing: You a fool idiot and a disgrace to the Christian religion. Ignorance knows no bounds amongst fundamentalist!
Never have a more diabolical treacherous hell bent people ever walked the earth than your so called Chosen people.. Their one and only aim is total global domination and if they can use dum*** goy in America to accomplish that goal then you better believe and be prepared for more War because they are itching..
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techengineer11
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 11:01amFinally and Fortunately the masses are beginning to see the true nature of the treacherous and blood thirsty Jew in America… It simply can not be hid in the information age. The truth will prevail and they will be punished for their crimes against humanity!
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 11:14amAmazingly stupid and ignorant understanding of what fundamentalist believe about Israel and the last days is on display here. No fundamentalist christian (and I am one) wants to see a single Jew killed. Of course we want to see them convert as we would like to see all people convert. Difference is, we try to persuade people by the love of Christ. Not by the edge of a sword. We believe true conversion comes from God, not us. We believe in the promise of God to Abraham that He will bless those that bless him (Abraham and the Jews) and curse those that curse him.
It doesn’t matter though. Atheists will continue to solely attack us because we worship the True God whom they hate and despise. The Jews are the chosen people of the True God which is why they are so hated and despised by the world as Jesus foretold. “If the world hates me, know that it will hate you also. For no servant is greater than his master.”
WE WORSHIP A JEW! It’s amazing that you genius’s would find it so hard to contemplate why we love Jews so much. And there are Jewish Christians and even Christian rabbis. For a christian is nothing more than a Jew (by faith, not by lineage) whom believe the Messiah has come. It was our enemies that named us Christians in order to mock us (Read the book of Acts). We kept the name as it is a blessing to be mocked for Christ’s sake.
Lastly, Almighty God is a Zionist. And I cheer for my Heavenly Father’s team.
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Indygal
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 12:09pmI think your post is just as ignorant as the Jewish man’s is. Christians support and feed people of all other religions around the world, to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars per year, a far cry from wanting anyone murdered. There is a wide gulf between most Christians and the Catholic church which is not recognized by either of you. It is true that Christians want the 2nd coming more than anything, but that in no way includes any danger whatsoever to the Jews or any other religious group, in fact the New Testament indicates the Jews themselves will bring about their own demise by making a deal with the Anti-Christ when he comes to power. (It appears this man is more than willing to do that out of his pure spite for Christians) There are so many Jews around the world who owe their very existence to Christian charity, it defies all logic that anyone would ever make such a claim except as demagoguery for nefarious purposes.
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Aceinspace
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 12:21pmIf only Alexabder the Great had not retired when he did
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COFemale
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 1:08pmsillyfreshness Not all Jews feel the same way this man does. Many Jews who support Obama I classify as self hating fake Jews; like Rahm Emanuel, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, George Soros. They would have actually supported Hitler to save their own skin had they lived during that time period. In fact, we have George Soros did just that. He turned in his Jewish friends to save his own skin. COWARD. They also do not support Israel.
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Atomheartmother
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 1:36pm@The Third Archon: No, what constitutes being anti-Christian are Siegel’s other remarks; that Christians want Jews to “die and convert”. They’re also idiotic, as last time I checked it’s tough to convert to anything when you’re dead.
Amazing to me that liberal Jews in America are willing to sell out their brethren in Israel like this…if it were up to them and the Democrats whom they support, Israel would be annihilated by the fanatics which surround it.
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73084
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 1:41pmin response to Chet,
He wasn’t talking about a small portion of christians he was talking about all christians. he said. “The Christians just want us to be there to be slaughtered and converted”. He later mentions fundamentalists and zionist but he started off generalizing about christians. But really what is wrong with being a fundamentalists. Practicing and believing 100% in the fundamentals of your religion is kind of the point dont you think.
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matt93312
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 2:00pmCorrection: it is not the “fundy” Christians who want the Jews dead. It is any and all forces that want to withdraw US support from Israel. Whether this Jewish gentleman likes it or not, Bible-believing Christians will continue to support the Jewish state… undivided, with Jerusalem as its eternal capitol.
And as for the conversion part… that is true. We would prefer that they embrace the Meshiach this side of Jacob’s Trouble. Conversion is a personal issue that each person must decide for themselves.
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Whistleblower
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 2:20pmFormer Rezko partner says he gave Tony $400K for Obama
http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2012/02/27/former-rezko-partner-says-he-gave-tony-400k-for-obama/
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vietnamvet
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 2:36pmThe Jews rejected the Messiah the first time and are still Rejecting him.
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TMLutas
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 2:42pm“The christians just want us to be there [Israel] so we can be slaughtered and converted” is a quote from the Democrat Palm Beach Chairman. Watch the video and listen. There aren’t any qualifiers on that as to fundamentalist christians, zionist christians, or anything else, though he separately talks about fundamentalists later. I think the vast majority of jews would repudiate that sentiment. Why are you carrying this bigot’s water?
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Constantine Ivanov
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 3:17pm@DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL:
You said:
“The [Jews] inhabited the land Israel sits on thousands of years ago…long before [Muslims] were created out of thin air…”
While I completely agree with your nickname, I am stunned that you, like a Democrat, like a cardsharper, are cozening with notions (I put them in brackets.)
“Jews” is a ethnic notion; it’s an ethnicity, a nationality. Not all Jews are religious. Jewish sources say, there are at least 30% non-religious Jews.
“Muslims” is a religious notion; it’s a religious affiliation. No all Muslims are Arabs. Not all Arabs are Muslims.
Therefore, in your phrase, you compare a bus with an apple.
Now, let me replace a few words in your phrase accordingly:
“The [Jews] inhabited the land of [Israel] thousands of years ago…long before [Palestinian Arabs] came out of thin air…”
This edited version is the one I hear very often.
Is it a good argument for defenders of Israel?
Let me replace words in brackets:
The [Indian tribes] inhabited the land [of the North and South America] sits on thousands of years ago…long before [European and others] [came] out of thin air…
Now imagine: Indians come to Americans (former [European and others]) and demand their land back: “Our religion says we are Chosen people and this is our Promised Land; we lived here long before you came here.”
What will American say, what do you think?
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santababy52
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 3:24pmIt sounds as though we are trying to bring Jesus back and the only way we can do it is oust Jews. He clearly does not know much about Christianity. Jesus second coming has nothing to do with ousting anyone. My belief is that He will come when it is time. We do not have to ready the world for Him like the Muslims are trying to make ready fro the coming of a caliphate or the 12th Imam. This is the most ridiculous statement I have ever hear. Jesus will return when it is time and what we do as Christians has nothing to do with it. We just have to have ourselves ready…that’s all.
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RWCT
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 3:57pmJesus states: I AM the way, the truth, and the life. There is NO OTHER name under Heaven through whom one can be saved, but by HIM. I believe HIM. YOU, on the other hand will have to answer to HIM! I do not like your chances of a winning argument! TRUE Christians believe what Jeremaih 31:31 says. God said HE would make a NEW covenant, with HIS people, the Jews. That covenant is IN Jesus Christ, coming the first time as Meschiah Ben Joseph, and returning as Meshiach Ben David. The Jewish person speaking misunderstands his own Torah.God will protect HIS chosen people, the Jews, and Jerusalem. 2/3 will die, but better than the 90% of the gentile population who will perish.
I stand with Israel, with THEIR captial of Jerusalem.
Shalom, and Maranatha
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bobball
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 4:40pmHe said we want them all to die. Did you not hear that? The best thing bout the DNC this year is they are revealing themselves and their true beliefs much more than in the past. This will cause most Americans to recoil and vote against them regardless of party affiliation.
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robertsgt40
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 5:08pmWell I guess Mr Siegel would be in favor or returning all those billions the Christian USA gave Israel over the decades. If he doesn’t like his host nation he can always return to the home parasite.
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hgpsurf
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 5:48pmHe thinks he will do better with the Muslims?
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stonehillady
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 6:28pmThis guy is as racist as they Come, Who the heck have given Israel their tax money for 60 years ???
Yes, we the Goyim of the United States….if it wasn’t for the Goyim Israel wouldn’t be there today.
The Christians for Israel survival do it for they feel, the Bible tells them that if don’t protect Israel their will be hell to pay. Many disagree because in those days Israel was NOT a Place but, the word Christian was not yet concieved & those that eccepted the Messiah as Jesus was called Israel so, we have valid argument on what Israel is ? a place or a people of the ones back then the Pharisees as Israel or the converted Jews of Jesus’s Jews….!
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Grey Eagle
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 6:58pmThis jerk is full of hate against Republicans mostly and Christians. He needed to go back home and keep his darn mouth shut for awhile. His comments will turn out Republicans to vote these loud mouth Dems out of office.
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73challenger503
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 8:58pmJudaism is Christianity. They just haven’t recognized their Messiah yet.
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decendentof56
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 10:17pmThird Archon……
Then explain to me how it is that Christians founded a country that allows “all” religions to practice their faith freely.
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Constantine Ivanov
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:18amInterestingly enough, neither DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL nor anybody else have answered the question I posted to DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL on September 6, 2012 at 3:17pm:
@DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL:
You said:
“The [Jews] inhabited the land Israel sits on thousands of years ago…long before [Muslims] were created out of thin air…”
Now, let me replace a few words in your phrase accordingly:
“The [Jews] inhabited the land of [Israel] thousands of years ago…long before [Palestinian Arabs] came out of thin air…”
This edited version is the one I hear very often.
Is it a good argument for defenders of Israel?
Let me replace words in brackets:
The [Indian tribes] inhabited the land [of the North and South America] sits on thousands of years ago…long before [European and others] [came] out of thin air…
Now imagine: Indians come to Americans (former [European and others]) and demand their land back: “Our religion says we are Chosen people and this is our Promised Land; we lived here long before you came here.”
What will American say, what do you think?
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I think, American will say to Indians (of course, in two short words):
“We are having and will keep having a sexual intercourse with you Indians.”
More or less the same are Palestinian Arabs saying to Israelis.
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Winghunter
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 3:03amWould you say Muslims and Socialists (i.e. Communists) are more or less of a threat to Jews than ‘fundamentalist’ Christians?? Mindnumbing Idiot!
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Qtaug
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 5:27amWith your propensity for generalizations about Christians, I assume you are a Racist as well…….t
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Constantine Ivanov
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:53pm@WINGHUNTER:
I am not sure whom you’re talking to, because you cowardly didn’t indicate it.
But I’d like to answer your question.
I assume that ‘fundamentalist’ Christians, as you call them, are not a threat to Israel at all. At least, I never heard them threatening Israel.
I also believe that “Socialists (i.e. Communists)” (again, using your wording) are not a threat to Israel simply because, even though Israeli Jews are slightly less inclined to Socialism than American Jews, who are pathologically voting for Obama (now also – at least 68% for him), Israel has nevertheless already many distinctively Socialist features, like Kibbutzim (at present there are 256 Kibbutzim in Israel, including 16 “religious kibbutzim”) etc.
In general, Stalin supported establishing Israel by Socialist Zionists Ben Gurion and Golda Meir as a Communist outpost in the Middle East. He clearly expressed that idea; he, like Lenin, loved using Socialism-loving idiots.
As for Palestinian Arabs and Muslim non-Arabs, like Iranians, they definitely are threatening Israel on a constant basis.
Palestinian Arabs have already lived on that land almost 2,000 years, since the Bar Kokhba revolt was suppressed in 136 C.E. And since their religion, Islam, doesn’t recognize Jews as a “chosen people” and Israel as a “promised land,” it’s clear that they see Israelis as occupiers
As for your gentle “Mindnumbing Idiot!”, I assume that you humbly called yourself that honorable name
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wisehiney
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:15pmEver notice how extremely hard some of the trolls on this site try to discredit anything that is good and decent? They may never understand what makes them terrified when they are alone in the dark.
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chips1
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:47pmYou pretty much have the right idea. They are so ashamed of what they are that they will say almost anything to get someone to pay attention to them. Misery loves company!!!
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Max jones
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 1:47amIf you have an ideological idea and no facts, but you push it like you do have facts…..you’re a troll
If you hate a particular group or individual, and you have no idea why…you’re a troll…
If you have no idea of the question, but have all the answers….you’re a troll
If your greatest revelation came to you without effort…You are a troll
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texastommy
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 8:43amGee, Max. According to your list there, you’re a troll.
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michael48
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 2:34pmfor decades the world “thought” dem-wits to be nuts…they have removed ALL doubt…
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floridareader
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:14pmFundamentalists Christians? Is this man for real?
No others than Fundamentalists Muslim want Jews dead, and Christians, and non-believers. This man was either drunk, senile or crazy.
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Gonzo
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:19pm“This man was either drunk, senile or crazy.” He’s an Obama supporter, let’s assume all three.
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Bill from NJ
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:22pm“This man was either drunk, senile or crazy.”
This is a prerequisite to vote Democrap!!!
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OhSnappage
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:45pmThis guy falls into an Obama supporter intelligence level. Another whiney lil biatch* whose man card has been revoked and taken away.
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Texas.7
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:13pmI could only guess where he gets these ideas- not from the Word of God, and not from any Christians that I know. As a matter of fact, most Christians do believe that in the end, there will be a great revival among the Jews, as Paul speaks of the grafting back in. BUT- and this is a big but, most Christians believe that our support of Israel and the Jews is the will of the Lord. And they cannot be saved if they are dead. The enemy has always sought to destroy them- but God desires that they come to know the love of Christ while there is time. He may in fact delay the end on their behalf, so that many more will be saved.
It sounds like this man has been reading about the 12th Imam, because from what we have learned, he is supposed to return after the Jews are destroyed. There is a Redeemer and there is a destroyer. If any will truly hear the words of Christ, they would never confuse the two again.
God desires reconciliation, not destruction. We know how it ends, and we can trust in the Lord. He will complete His good work, offering life and love to all who will receive it. And many who are on the wrong side today will come to know truth. That hope, is why we are here.
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SITDOWNANDSHUTUP
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:17pmGonzo’s comments always catch my eye…….too funny. (and sadly, too true)
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RedDawn-2012
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 1:47amFundamentalist Christians are by far the biggest group of tourists to visit Israel, especially Jerusalem, and they are VERY much appreciated by the local Israeli Jews for their touristic dollars. American secular Jews despise these Christians, and, as an American agnostic non-Jew, I must admit they get on my nerves, especially the scammers posing as TV evangelists. My wacky sister is one of them, and in three weeks she’ll be dancing in the streets of Jerusalem with 60,000 of her fellow travelers.
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Chromo200
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:12pmWhen in modern times did the Christians force their religion on anyone. I say modern because in the middle ages the leaders of the Catholic Church did things that were no Christian.
Mark Seigel is a sellout to the Jews. He is like Weiner/Soros selling their religion and race for money. Christian want people to accept Jessus as their savior but it has to be done willingly and not by force.
Mark Siegel Keep it up and see what the muslim brotherhood will be doing to you. I say come to a Christian neighborhood and stand on soap box and asy “I am a Jew” and then go to the Gaza Strip and do the same. I wonder which group will kill you.
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DesertRose1960
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:57pmWhen in modern times did Christians try to force their religion other people, how about today, in this country. When you say “He’s a Good Christian” as some sort of code for his being a good man; you risk offending people who either aren’t Christian or aren’t religious. When you say that America is a Christian nation, that’s what you’re telling Jews, Muslims, and Hindus. I’ve had very unpleasant discussions on my doorstep with Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons, Baptists, and Fundamentalist Christians. They come and try to sell me their faith. When I try to turn them away, some of them get very insistant and a few have been downright rude. I also know that some Christians are taught to tell people that unless they become their time of Christian, then that person will go to Hell and they tell them that to their face. If you aren’t their type of Christian, that’s a highly offensive message and when you aren’t a Christian at all it’s even more offensive. And when you insist that everyone “Pray in Jesus’ name” at some public or sporting event, you’re forcing your religion onto others.
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Chromo200
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:16pmDesertRose1960 They may be rude they maybe pushy, but they have not forced you to be a christian. They may have used guilt.. It is my job to bring the word to you.. Up to you to accept.
Did they pull a gun on you and force you … no .. Did they go to your boss and get you fired … no … did they call you hateful names … no. I am not talking about the crazies.
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drs1969
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:45pmJehovah’s Witnesses went to the Supreme Court to get the right to knock on doors. I’m not a JW, but I have talked to, filibustered, them more than once. I wonder if they could get a decision in their favor now. Look at the Jewish content of the Supreme Court, no wonder Obama-Care was upheld. It’s another gov. monopoly for them to plunder!
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Max jones
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:52pmRose, you don’t have to worry about all those offensive Christians stalking and harassing you for much longer. The consensus seems to be that everybody who can hear, has heard. Soon there won’t be anyone who cares whether you go to hell or not. I know that my interest in you is marginal, at best.
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nobull14
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:09pmThis is the Democrap party
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dealer@678
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:07pmIts sad but that is how a lot of Jews feel about Christians. I’ll ask this question to a Jew. Who would you rather be in a foxhole with when the SHTF. A Christian OR someone else. HMM
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The_Jerk
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:12pmThey answered that question 2000 years ago. They crucified the Christian and had the occupiers do it for them.
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starman70
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:15pmI personally support Israel and the Jewish people every chance I get. I am a Christian!!
I’m sure this idiot wouldn’t want to share a foxhole with a Moslem Brotherhood member.
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Individualism
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:21pmjesus never existed no proof he did, religion is a bunch of lies and fairy tales.
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The_Jerk
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:30pmStarman70, nothing wrong with supporting the Jewish people. There is a problem supporting the Zionist state. If you support Zionism, you are a radical, zealot, Christian… Cut from the cloth of radical, zealot, Islam.
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paperpushermj
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:52pm@ INDIVIDUALISM
.jesus never existed no proof he did, religion is a bunch of lies and fairy tales.
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.Lies and fairy tales you say. Tell that to the masses feed,Clothed,Sheltered,Educated and had their Medical needs meet from around the World.
I will use the same criteria when looking at YOU. How and people have You feed, how many have YOU clothed, how many have YOU given shelter to, how many have YOU taught, how many have YOU given loving care to.
It seems the mouse is yelling at the Elephant
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bhelmet
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:27pm@individualism
You better hope (I would pray, but that, obviously, is not for you) that you are right.
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WyoSagebrush
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 5:38am@ Individualism:
If Jesus never existed, please explain this for me. C. S. Lewis once had the same view as you, yet he became the greatest Christian Apologist of the 20th century.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 11:22am“jesus never existed no proof he did”
Yea, except for all of the ancient history of Christians. Even recorded history of the pagans. The Antiquities by Josephus who mentions Him. Ancient archaelogy. 1 Corinthians in which Paul names the people who seen Christ after His resurrection to show proof.
Oh, and the church on every corner of the free world. If Jesus never existed, it would have to be the greatest hoax ever to be devised with billions of people in on it.
This qualifies as THE STUPIDEST THING EVER STATED. Your mother should be ashamed for birthing you.
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Standstrong
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:06pmThe funny thing is that if he really believed that Judaism was the one true religion how come he is not wearing a yamikah (Jewish cap). The bottom line is this guy is full of ****. As a Jew ( a religious one) I find what he said insulting. It is obvious that he is clueless about both religions. FYI, if you are a democrat and by definition you cannot be a religious Jew. The whole platform of the Democratic Party is anti G-d.
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The_Jerk
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:14pmSo true:
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/index.cfm
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Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:26pmMany true Christians don’t wear crucifixes. Many false Christians do. Judaism is comprised of many sects just like Christianity. Is a nun not in a habit not a nun?
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RebelPatriot
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:38pmSo true, there are those who are not practicing Jews that make up a huge minority of this type of voter. They really aren’t committed to their Jewish heritage. They have fallen way out of line in keeping with their religious convictions and find it accommadating to be a liberal and blame the Chrisitians.
When Nazis threatened to commit genocide on the Jewish nation it wasn’t atheist or Muslims who came to their rescue. It was the God fearing Christians who had been pushed out of Europe that came back to save them.
The Jewish friends we have understand the close relationship that Judaism and Christianity share. If not for converted Jews, Christianity would never had prospered.
We don’t need to convert the Jews, we simply spread the Gospel of Jesus, to those who want to accept, an eternal life is granted.
For all those who still persecute the Christians, maybe you are just feeling guilty?
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paulwbrown
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:06pmSomewhat bizarre when many Christians are more supportive of Israel than many Jews in this country.
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The_Jerk
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:16pmNot the same. Secular Jews, Marx-type Jews, are in pursuit of the commune, kibbutz, communism. It’s the culture.
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Individualism
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:27pmwell many folks in the fairy tale bible interpret magic man jesus as a socialist or even a communist.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 2:25pmSO JERK and INDIVIDUAL whatever. Let’s say you were in a court and the judge charges you with a severe crime and you can’t pay the fine. You are facing a life-ending situation. Suddenly, someone
comes into Court, pays your fine and you are free. You’ve been told this before but you didn’t “get it”.
The one who came, died and paid your fine was the SON of GOD. Sent by GOD. You were created by God who created it all. YET, all you two can do is insult, ridicule and lie about this Wonderful individual.
Here is the truth. GOD MADE US ALL. GOD MADE EVERYTHING. When you die – you will exist in the situation YOU created. You don’t disappear; you don’t come back as someone else…you just exist. IF you refuse GOD and you die, your options die. GOD doesn’t chase you into eternity. BUT ONCE created, you remain in existence. Your brain doesn’t stop. Your eyes still see; you talk and no one hears you and you are ALONE. You didn’t want GOD – you wanted to be separated from Him and so you are.
Instead of marveling at how wonderful everything is that you are HERE; That life is a miracle; That this wonderful Creator created you to be with Him; YOU choose to ridicule. To strike out in hate. To slap your Creator. SO, He says “Okay if that’s how you want it” and there you sit…for eternity.
YOU can’t explain how you got here, but you’re damned and determined to insult the GOD who created you, then you doubt that HE will put you
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Radpat12
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:06pmI can not believe what I am hearing. They are showing their true colors. It is like God reached down and took the mask off.
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doomytram
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:05pmWhere’s the civility Commies? I feel sorry for the MIS/DIS/&ILL INFORMED clueless idiots that think Democrat means Center Moderate….. Get a brain Cell….today’s Demoncrat’s means.. Communism here we come.
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ReaganBaby
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:05pmLast i checked it was the Christians who stopped the Holocaust. I am Christian and i support Israel this guy is a dope
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DesertRose1960
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:37pmIt was also “Christians” and the family values of “Church, Home, Children” that caused the Holocaust. Why, exactly do you “support Israel”? What do you know about Israeli politics? And how many Jews do you know, I mean really know well enough to be invited to sit down at their table and talk about politics and religion? How many Israelis do you know? If you’re like most Americans, you can’t explain why you support Israel, don’t know much about the internal politics and you know few if any Jews well and you have had no contact with any Israelis.
drs1969
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:45pmThey were sent to fight the Germans AFTER Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. My Grand-Dad always pointed this out. He was drafted to go and did, but it was fear of jail that forced him, not love for Jews. Bankers make a fortune on wars, many bankers are Jews. Wake up America! Your future is being wasted serving them.
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:03pmIs anyone surprised? Anyone? Anyone? Buehler?
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Wolfgang the Gray
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:11pmNothing the DNC says will surprise me, they are going for the lowest of the low in supporting a president that has tarnished the position in how he has divided the people of this nation instead of uniting them.
They are so low, they have to go up to walk underground. They are lower than a snake’s belly.
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DOra Glasberg
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:00pmOne guy does not speak for a whole party or whole religion.
Always looking for non-stories here.
Guess a NEW Black Panther didn’t fart this week.
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paulwbrown
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:08pmAre you monitoring their farts?
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therealconservative
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:08pm@Dora The Explorer
He’s just echoing the words of your employer the DNC
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:32pmDORA
Ah, but when the shoe is on the other foot, they ARE stories, and one person DOES speak for the whole party. Weren’t you saying something about Akin last week or so?
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:54pm@Dora:
Dora, I ask this of you, as a spokesperson for your kind, and I ask with all sincerity and with the hope of an honest answer: Why are liberals so stupid? Please help me understand.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:00pmJesus speaking of the things Daniel spoke of.
Matthew 24:34
Truly I say to you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Mark 13:30
Truly I say to you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
Luke 21:32
Truly I say to you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
Then – Heaven and earth faded away!
Most of Today’s Christian’ churches are frauds, and they will imprison all who attempt to bring the truth reinstalling the understanding of Heaven and earth.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:07pmAnd the American Jew believes that Christians are fools given over to their will to be their warriors.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:09pmWhy else do you think it is the American Jew keeps voting for Communists?
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Garryruddjr
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 10:15amHe also said that many would come in His name professing that He is the Messiah and would deceive many in this way. Matt 24… ” many will come in My name saying I am the Christ and will deceive many” and for those who say He is talking about false Christs you are incorrect for He goes on to say next that there will also be a false christ ect ect ect . so to transliterate He is saying that; in the end of the age that many people professing to be Christian will even declare that Jesus is messiah , yet they will deceive many with their doctrines.
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toiletclogga
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 7:56pm..and the number 1 reason why Christianity exists is because of Jews; one in particular.
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The_Jerk
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:06pmFact is, the Jews had the Galilean killed. He was not from Judea, and thus, not a Jew. That’s been the historical mistake.
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:20pmYou forgot in the story, Christ and his family were originally from Bethlehem. They had to return their for census reasons. At that time it was an Israelite city in the Judean mountains.
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Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:22pmJews were created as a race special to God. It doesn’t matter where they are, or where they were born, it’s their lineage, not the nationality.
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kaydeebeau
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:27pm@ Jerk – actually it was always God’s plan for Jesus to die and He used the secular Hebrews and Democrats (Romans) of the day to accomplish His work, just as He is using those 2 groups today to open the eyes of Americans…2Chron 7:14
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:29pmI think The Jerk supports the idea similar to that spouted by the 1940′s National Socialists and modern white supremists that Jesus was not a jew, but of Aryan descent.
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Walkabout
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:33pmThe_Jerk
I have been reading up on ancient Canaanite & Jewish antiquity such as who were Jews their relationship with Samaritans & the Jews. Basically the Samaritans were Jews, who did not get deported & mixed with deportees form elsewhere in the Babilonian (or Assyrian) Empire. They have somewhat similar religious practices.
Israelites ranged from the Negev up until what is now southern Lebanon almost to Damascus & parts of Transjordan. It just depends on the year. After Israel split into two kingdom & the northern one was defeated & deported, Jews came back after Persian defeated the Babilonian Empire. They all did all go back to Judea. Some when to the northern part of the old Israelite Kingdom. They lived in the north & yet Jerusalem was their cultural centre. How else would Jesus care about the customs of the Temple or argue with the priests about law.
As a descendant of David the priests would put up with Jesus debating them. People remember their blood lines.
Next you are going to argue that Jesus was not a Jew but a Palestinian. I am beginning to think you are a Palestinian or a Palestinian sympathiser here to stir up crap. You are probably part of the International Middle East Solidarity.
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The_Jerk
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:34pmSacredHonor1776, no. At that time it was Judea. Christ was from Nazareth of Galilee, not Judea. Joseph, Christ’s adoptive father, was from Bethlehem. Joseph was not Christ’s father. Nothing other than a legal guardian.
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:44pmTechnically Christ if one believes the story was not the blood of either parent… He was God born as a child, and Mary was his ‘surrogate’. That would have made both parents ‘guardians’….
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Walkabout
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:46pmThe_Jerk left out the Maccabean Revolt against the Seulicid, one of the successor states of Alexander the Great’s Empire.
Under Hasmonean rule the Jewish state expanded south to Idumea (Edomites who left Edom after an a$$kicking to occupy southern Judah) & north to Samaria/Galilee & Iturea.
We are to believe using JERK logic that the Jewish state expanded but the Jews did not spread out within the confines of the new state after 134 BC
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tzion
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:22pm@Jerk
Still spewing your “Jesus wasn’t a Jew” spiel. You’re guilty of being intentionally ignorant to historical context. The Jews were named such after the Kingdom of Judea that existed until around 586 BCE. Jesus, by your own holy texts accounting, was a descendent of those who were exiled when this kingdom was conquered by Babylon and who then returned during the reign of Persia. Just check the Bible for yourself. The Hebrew term Yehudi, which translates to either Jew, Judean, of refers someone from the tribe of Judah, was used to describe Mordecai, who lived in Persia, not Judea. Mordacai is also stated to be from the tribe of Benjamin so clearly it was the modern usage of Jew that was being used as no other usage fits. If Mordecai, who lived before Jesus, was a Jew despite not living in Judea, then Jesus would be a Jew by the same reasoning.
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divinewind173
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 3:09amAmen to that my friend.
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wisehiney
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 7:56pmThe devil runs loose in the world. People of faith please him by bickering and infighting over nothing. We’ll come together when we hang together.
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TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:07pmTrue. He already has everyone else.
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 7:54pmWhat a lie. Jews sometimes are their own worst enemies. Read the Bible and you will see that they seem to have a love/hate relationship with themselves. A Jew has the nerve to say that Fundamentalist ‘want them to die”. That is a lie. If it were not for fundamentalists the liberals in the government would have abandoned Israel years ago. Look at their own party. They just put in the name of God and Jerusalem back in the wording of their convention only because of Christian fundamentalists and the Republicans mocking them about it. Democrats and obama are NOT friends of the Jews yet Jews still remain democrats. Go figure.
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:05pmThat’s Pastor Hagee’s idea to convert all the Jews because they are going to hell. Glenn Beck is allies with Pastor Hagee and he and his new nationalist fifth column support this plan of genocide.
Then there’s the Jew haters who say “they killed Our Lord. It says do in the Good Book.”
Fundamentalists are enemies of the Jewish people. The only want a new temple built in Israel for some end times prophecy fulfillment.
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The_Jerk
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:11pmJew is not synonymous with Zionist. Israel is a Zionist state that has hijacked the religion of Judaism, much like the radical Muslims have done with Islam.
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NHwinter
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:18pmmarybethelizabeth – You sure spout a lot of hate. Why is it you think you actually know what people think and what they want. You do truly look like a fool. I guess trolls get some kind of pleasure being on sites like this one and throwing out obnoxious posts just for fun. Do you not have anything productive to do in your life?
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momrules
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:22pmMarybeth……….I listen to John Hagee all the time and I have NEVER heard him say anything like you claim. Pastor Hagee is a friend and supporter of Israel just as I and any real Christian is. We believe in God, Jesus Christ and the Bible.
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Stelex
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:46pmGuy’s, Girls, MarywhatetheFK, I’m 48, started looking for the answers when I was 18 or so. People a whole lot smarter than me been lookin, people a whole lot dummer been lookin. People believe, people don’t believe, jews are right, christians are right, muslims are evil…..that one is obvious. The only way to find out for sure……and I mean for sure……is to DIE. All the rest is speculation, belief and conjecture. Who’s going first, I’ll be right behind you…….kinda leading from behind to quote the Muslim in Chief. Live and let live…….religion is not the fight of the day……Communism …..thats a problem
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Walkabout
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:55pmmarybethelizabeth
That‘s Pastor Hagee’s idea to convert all the Jews
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People generally try to convert other people to their way because they believe it is better, unless they are a businessman or a soldier. Those people do not want to make their competition stronger.
The only problems in trying to convert people is if you are tactless or try to use force. Some people cannot be converted via persuasion. Your only chance then is to let them be & to show by good example & let them come around on their own however long that takes.
I see no problem with wanting to convert people so long as a person is tactful & doesn’t use force. It also means butting out for periods of time. You cannot dun people.
Apparently Mary thinks Hagee is out there with a scimitar or something. No wonder she doesn’t like him. but then Mary or Elizabeth is not all there.
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:56pmPay attention when you listen. Pastor Hagee is a friend of Israel, but not a friend of Jews. He’s not the only one with such beliefs. He’s just the one that Mr. Beck dragged his keys too. The theory of Jews all either converting or going to Hell is a defining belief of the fundamentalist cult.
You know: John 3:16
I think Mr. Beck just wants to eliminate the competition. Joseph Smith declared himself King of Israel and claims Israel as the LDS Church’s birthright.
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:04pmSee above.
That’s not me
Those are your fellow keys arguing just what I wrote that they would argue.
It’s ok for them to say it, but it’s not ok for me to point out their inhumanity; their subhuman identity.
I don’t accept their hate of Mr. Beck’s hate.
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Neils60
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 12:15amMARYBETHELIZABETH, Interesting commentary about Pastor Hagee, the featured speaker (Bloomfield, Connecticut) for outgoing Senator Joseph Lieberman-I-Connecticut, an Orthodox Jew.
Pastor Hagee was also the most honored guest of the now ailing Prime Minister of Israel, Ariel Sharon.
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steveh931
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 1:20amThe only temple Jesus cares about is the one in your heart. Jesus does not care about buildings, never has, never will, don’t belittle the Lord, praise him. As far as the end of time only the Father knows.
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BondmanPhil
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 3:46pmThe_Jerk is completely wrong. The Israelite Nation was a Nation before it became a religion. It only became a religion when it lost its national homeland. Judaism without Zionism is like Christianity without the Resurrection. Only in the Land of Israel can a Jew be in full compliance with Jewish Law, and fulfill his destiny as a complete Jew. The Jews who reject Zionism, even if they appear to be “religious”, are as confused as The_Jerk.
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USA5
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 8:41pmI think Jewish may be one grroup behind lawsuits of public crosses.
Makes me wonder the Vampire myths origin…funny.
Anyway this belief Christians want Jews to die is fear based, which actually they will/have created
violence against Jews and have aided in obam as President a Muslim who hates Jews.
So, they put their enemy in power…anyone seen this before..Hitler.
The second coming of Christ/Jesus has nothing to do with a particular church or religion.
It will be an opportunity for expansion of individual spritually. Expanding, accepting the Christ within a person, man, woman, children, animals, and earth.
There may be some Christian groups that want death to Jews, but they are not God or Jesus.
God and Jesus have their plan.
Humans have their plans, and it is choice if they want to create love/peace or hatred/violence.
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drmac2012
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 7:53pmWow, I don’t even know how to respond to the hate speech I just heard from this sorry hateful little man. He needs a serious check up from the neck up. How very sad he is and very very hateful. If a Christian said something like that they would be brought up on charges. Sad.
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John 1776
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 7:52pmIs it just me or does the front of that podium look like the front of a Roman Chariot ??
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banjarmon
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 7:52pmMr. Siegel your remarks are the most asinine I have ever heard. You should be in Egypt and say that about the brotherhood.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 7:51pmThat’s funny because Jesus didn’t call his church Christians. And Jesus just said they will put many in prison. I should also mention that Jesus said those things would come to pass before the end of [that] generation. Today’s Christians are frauds.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:03pmThey wasted no time putting down the truth – that’s why the woman was given the wings of a great eagle to take her to a place prepared for her.
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LeadNotFollow
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 7:51pm…
Wednesday “afternood” ???
The Blaze needs to use spell-check and proof readers.
They will catch the error shortly, and change it to “afternoon”.
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pissantno.10
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:14pmget over it most people are just responding to the stories in a quick time line
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The_Jerk
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 7:51pmFor nearly 50 years, Hollywood has been pushing the anti-Christian agenda. Who is Hollywood? Let’s ask them:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-stein19-2008dec19,0,4676183.column
Keep your heads buried in the sand, but it will not change the truth. Nor will it end the problem.
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Walkabout
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:00pmMichael Medved has already covered this & refuted it.
Try Again Harder Troll!
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The_Jerk
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:08pmWalkabout, funny that you mentioned Michael Medved. He once wrote the same in the Jewish magazine, “Moment.”
That would be two Jewish sources for the same facts.
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Walkabout
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:09pmLike I said.
Try Again Harder!
http://townhall.com/columnists/michaelmedved/2006/08/09/why_the_world_hates_the_jews/page/full/
BTW does you master keep you chained to the computer desk?
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Walkabout
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:14pmMaybe the LA Times is going down in circulation because it prints increasingly more drivel. Like that opinion piece you referenced.
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The latest decline was not as steep as the 8.7 percent drop seen in the previous reporting period, which ran from October 2009 through March of this year.
Sunday circulation fell 4.5 percent in the April-September period, also a smaller decline than the 6.5 percent drop in the six months before that.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/25/newspaper-circulation-dow_0_n_773362.html#s164307&title=1_Wall_Street
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Individualism
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:20pmchristianity like any other religion is submission to fake a non existant authority and waste of a life.
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NHwinter
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:35pmIt looks like Satan’s trolls are typing away on this subject.
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Walkabout
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:38pmThe_Jerk
Walkabout, funny that you mentioned Michael Medved. He once wrote the same in the Jewish magazine, “Moment.”
That would be two Jewish sources for the same facts.
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No, that would be 2 different columnists writing pieces for the same magazine to earn a living but having different opinions & different command of the facts. It is telling that you chose to side with the guy, who is not so bright.
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cookcountypatriot
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 7:51pmself loathing jews are pitifull…he belongs to his god obama
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drs1969
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:55pmThe Jewish-Banking Puppet, Obama.
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The_Jerk
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 7:48pmI don’t know how many times you have been told, but the truth is, the number one enemy of Christians and its culture are Jews. Fact.
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Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 7:53pmI disagree. Planting the weight of an entire culture/race on one idiots proclamations is unfair.
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Jenny Lind
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 7:53pmDoesn’t matter, we are still to do good for them and to support them. If they don’t get it, not my problem, I’m serving God, not man.
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therealconservative
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 7:54pmThank you Adolf
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The_Jerk
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:01pmTherealconservative, were I really Adolf, the Zionists would be begging to be my friend; as their history has shown.
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html
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therealconservative
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:11pm@thejerk
Yeah there were 6 million of them, expect they where begging to stay alive.
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Standstrong
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:12pmyour an idiot. Question ….. have you ever met a Jew in your life?
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Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:17pm@THEREALCONSERVATIVE. Disagreement with a Jew makes people Nazis’? You’re part of the reason the term has almost no effect on people now.
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Individualism
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:19pmlook nazi, religion is the number one enemy of humanity. and the murderers are not those in power buy the enforcers of those in power that happen to be bald white christian males.
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therealconservative
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:32pm@ex
“You’re part of the reason the term has almost no effect on people now.”
No, it’s people like you that refuse to learn history and would rather be told what to think.
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therealconservative
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 8:33pm@indiv
The number one enemy of humanity is clowns like you.
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Individualism
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:30pmrealcommunist, religion is the number one killer of man, billions dead cause of it.
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therealconservative
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 9:38pm@socialist
Billions? Are you looking at the McDonald’s sign? Actually it’s the anti-religious that have started most wars/killing.
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drs1969
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:16pmThe teachings of Karl Marx, a Jew, to be exact. Hundreds of millions of non-Jews have died due to his followers! Many, many times more than those Adolf killed. Just as deserving of life as the precious Jews we hear about, Ad Nauseum.
You never hear it framed that way in the USSA. Can you guess why?
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tzion
Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:31pm@Collectivism
Man is the number one cause of war. 100% of them are the fault of mankind. Your argument uses as its backing the fact that atheism is 1. a relatively recent phenomenon and 2. that most societies have been religious. You have no evidence that an atheistic society would be any better.
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steveh931
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 1:04am@JENNY LIND,
Well Said
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Garryruddjr
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 9:42amYou sir could not be any less accurate. That may be your opinion but the facts do not bare out. Firstly secularists have been the most active in their opposition to Christianity here in the US and abroad. Next in line would be communist nations then I would say Islamic nations. Jews are way down the list of anti-christian peoples. Although “Christians” do indeed have a rich history of jew hatred far to many historical facts to list.Also as a side not I have heard personally , Christians speak along the lines of what this man has said. ” We must be ruptured so the jews can suffer and realise that Jesus is the messiah but first we must help them to build the third temple ect… ect …. ect….. Some Jewish people do feel the same or similar to what this man seems to , mostly because of the history and statements of Christians themselves. The Judea o christian scriptures do say at the end of the age that ” Jerusalem will be a burdensome stone for all people: all that all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered against it. This man has made the same error that many make, by putting an entire group of people into one category. Just like most jews do not feel the way this man does, I should nkow I am one of them.
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Tom Arr
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 7:30pmThe only thing holding back Christianity is the perversion that Jews slip into believers minds on a regular basis, that and the Jews unbelief.
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