
People pose during the official convention photography during day two of the Democratic National Convention at Time Warner Cable Arena on September 5, 2012 in Charlotte, North Carolina. The DNC that will run through September 7, will nominate U.S. President Barack Obama as the Democratic presidential candidate. (Credit: Getty Images)
WASHINGTON (AP) — On Day 2 of the Democratic National Convention, speakers cherry-picked employment numbers to make President Barack Obama’s record on jobs look better than it is and misrepresented Republican proposals on Medicare to cast them in the worst light.
A look at some of the claims from the stage, in speeches preceding former President Bill Clinton’s featured address Wednesday night, and how those assertions compare with the facts:
Rep. NANCY PELOSI of California, House Democratic leader: “Democrats will preserve and strengthen Medicare. Republicans will end the Medicare guarantee.”
REP. STEVE ISRAEL, D-N.Y., chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee: “Paul Ryan wrote the budget that turns Medicare into voucher care and could charge seniors $6,400 more every year, while funding tax breaks for millionaires. Here’s their economic plan: if you’re a millionaire, you win the lottery. If you’re a senior, you lose your Medicare guarantee.”
THE FACTS: Both are on shaky ground in declaring that Republicans will end the “Medicare guarantee,” and Israel’s figure for how much more seniors could pay is outdated. It’s actually based on a Congressional Budget Office analysis of the 2011 version of Rep. Paul Ryan’s Medicare proposal, different in several important ways from the Republican vice presidential candidate’s latest 2012 version.
The latest Ryan plan would offer future retirees the choice of a government program modeled on Medicare or private plans subsidized by government. That’s not a proposal to end a Medicare guarantee. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office does, though, estimate future retirees would get less from the government under the Ryan plan than if current law continues. Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has endorsed Ryan’s Medicare ideas in broad terms while saying the White House agenda will be his own, not his running mate’s, if they win.
Ryan’s plan only affects people joining the program in 2023 or later. It’s expected that private health insurance plans serving seniors would have to guarantee some basic level of benefits, yet to be spelled out. Finally, there’s no such thing as a “guaranteed” Medicare benefit for the ages, because Congress can change the laws.
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PELOSI: “Under President Obama, we’ve gone from losing 800,000 jobs a month to adding 4.5 million private sector jobs over the last 29 months.”
STEVE WESTLY, former California state controller and chief financial officer: “President Obama understands that future. He knows that this election is about creating jobs today. That’s why he’s helped create 4.5 million of them, growing the economy from the middle out, not the top down.”
THE FACTS: While that figure has become a White House talking point, it’s only part of the story. It’s a selective number that refers just to private sector jobs created in the last 29 months, from the trough of the recession through July. Governments – especially state and local ones – have continued shedding jobs. And the claim ignores job losses during Obama’s term before the employment picture bottomed out.
The economy lost 8.8 million jobs from the time employment peaked in January 2008 until it hit bottom in February 2010. Between then and this July – the most recent month for which there are figures – just 4 million jobs have been recovered. Never since World War II has the economy been so slow to recover all the jobs lost in a downturn.
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PEDRO PIERLUISI, non-voting member of the House from Puerto Rico: “The president is a champion of comprehensive immigration reform and is preventing the deportation of thousands of young men and women who were brought here as kids, have played by the rules and have done nothing wrong. Indeed, they are doing everything right by getting an education or serving in the military. But if Mitt Romney gets into office, he has vowed to overturn that action and veto the Dream Act if it ever passes Congress.”
THE FACTS: During the Republican primaries, Romney did pledge to veto the DREAM Act, a bill that would provide a path to citizenship for many young illegal immigrants brought to the United States as children. But Romney has not said what he would do with Obama’s deferred action policy, which allows many young illegal immigrants to avoid deportation for two years and get a work permit. Romney has only said that he would work to create a “civil but resolute” long-term fix to illegal immigration.
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CECILE RICHARDS, president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America: “When Mitt Romney says he’ll get rid of Planned Parenthood, and turn the clock back on a century of progress, it has real consequences for the 3 million patients who depended on Planned Parenthood last year. ”
THE FACTS: Romney has proposed to eliminate federal money for Planned Parenthood but not get rid of the organization. Planned Parenthood’s budget is roughly $1.1 billion, and it receives about $75 million in federal financing, which cannot be used to pay for abortions.
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PELOSI: “Democrats passed health reform to allow Americans the freedom to pursue their passion; to make health care a right, not a privilege.”
THE FACTS: Access to health insurance is essentially becoming a right under Obama’s health care law, although one that most people will pay for, and that right comes with a mandate to obtain coverage. Those who don’t will be penalized. It is true that insurers will no longer be able to deny coverage to people who have been sick or charge them exorbitant rates, once the law takes full effect.



















































































































ActualData
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:05amYear Avg jobs gain/month
2006 172,000
2007 92,000
2008 -300,000
2009 -421,000 (much smaller losses by end of year)
2010 86,000
2011 153,000
Over 22 straight months of jobs gains– no months with losses– at an average of 150,000+ jobs gained a month…
Over 4million jobs gained since the bottom of the recession in late 2009…
Job gains in 2012 so far– over 1million, and that is with the leading edge of babyboomers retiring at huge extra rates, an extra 0.7 to 1million a year) since 2011.
Facts are readily available here:
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth
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jblovesAmerica
Sep. 6, 2012 at 4:27pmToday 355,000 new unemployment application.
that’s for the week
multiply by 4 weeks 1.2 million each month
thats 12+ million for the year
have we (BHO) made 12+million jobs??
don’t think so.
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solongsuckers
Sep. 6, 2012 at 9:41amwhat does it feel like to know that you are DONE?!?!..finished..KA_PUT!!..i see the far right scramblin’..weak attempts at damage control..problem is..Americans are much smarter than you would believe..they have seen the future, where you yearn to return to the past..there is no going back..we will NOT restore YOUR America..if you were smart, you would get with the program..roll with U.S..or get rolled over..choose yea now…there is still time to wise up..that is, if you want to RISE UP!!..done.
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EqualJustice
Sep. 6, 2012 at 8:42amTell it like it is. it’s not “twist”and it’s not “spin” it’s called telling LIES!
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blackfeather
Sep. 6, 2012 at 7:16amall the more reason to vote these animals out.
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80mesh
Sep. 6, 2012 at 6:44amI’ve found the cure for HOPE
obama 2012
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DOra Glasberg
Sep. 6, 2012 at 6:33am“A government plan MODELED on Medicare” is the end of Medicare AS WE KNOW IT?
Did I miss something? Was that a code of some kind?
VOUCHER VOUCHER VOUCHER.
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13th Imam
Sep. 6, 2012 at 8:35am“Chicago” 715 Billion taken from MEDICARE by DEMOCRATS led by Barak Hussein Oblabla,
Mmmm, Mmmmm, Mmmmmmmm
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Delores at CH WV
Sep. 6, 2012 at 5:16amHow about Lies? The truth are facts and cannot be twisted. Lies just twist in the wind and the
Dems are experts in this field of human nature. The term Kool-aid drinkers should be changed to mentally missing brains.
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HKS
Sep. 6, 2012 at 7:30amDeloris, my H as well, These dems are acting like commies, oh yes I think they really are.
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HI_Don
Sep. 6, 2012 at 2:50amBlaze – fact check this-
Clinton’s remarks on how many jobs created under Democrat vs. Republican Presidents.
My gut feel is 1) He is exaggerating the numbers of course they always do.
2) He cherry picked the exact duration of the included dates to exclude some of the other sides prosperity
3) He doesn’t take into account one of the most significant contributors – who had the congress and house control.
I don’t know how he got the numbers he did, but for one – giving Clinton credit for a balanced budget or prosperity and blaming the Bush presidents on either side is purely disingenuous giving no credit where it should clearly reside in the Contract With America of the Republican House and Gingrich. Clinton’s presidency was destined for disaster until it was seized and pulled back by republicans – at least that is what I remember when I lived through those days.
Always have to appreciate it when you have a finger wagged at you and your told listen to me – coming from the “I didn’t have sexual relations with that woman” Bill Clinton.
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watersRpeople
Sep. 5, 2012 at 11:45pmEvery aspect of a nation is build around the need for dependency.
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watersRpeople
Sep. 5, 2012 at 11:44pmSomeday just as battery power is turned into RF, RF will be turned into energy for people residences, and utility companies will be a thing of the past.
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Tigress1
Sep. 5, 2012 at 11:33pm4 million jobs IN McDONALDS!!!! How about jobs that actually pay an actual salary that people can live on???
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Stoic one
Sep. 6, 2012 at 12:15amI got my new obama job at circle K ( the gas station). It is only 2miles for home ….
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Sirfoldallot
Sep. 6, 2012 at 12:15amHow about reality, make belief land is there hope & change the facts.
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loriann12
Sep. 6, 2012 at 6:55amThey also added in temporary jobs and seasonal jobs to boost their numbers. They neglect the part about people being UNDER employed, meaning those who don’t want to take unemployment insurance and do any sort of job they can find. I know someone in construction who got laid off for a while, and refused unemployment. He did odd jobs here and there to feed his family. It meant a lot less money, but he kept his pride.
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BurntHills
Sep. 5, 2012 at 11:16pmeverything Slick Willie has said so far has been an outright LIE. how disgusting!!!!! and those mindless little communist drones drooling in the audience are eating it up. thank God that they are in the minority now as more Americans realize what obama is and that these are just his loudmouth liar sycophants.
notice Hillary has put thousands of miles halfway around the world to distance herself from this DNC, and she’s just been disrespected overseas too. .
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heavyduty
Sep. 5, 2012 at 11:15pmMost of the people there at the DNC are sheeple anyway. They wouldn’t know what the numbers mean even if it was spelled out for them. These are the ones that have no clue.
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BurntHills
Sep. 5, 2012 at 11:13pmSlick Willie is on now, telling the elderly that they will be killed off by the Republicans cutting out all medicaid and that all disabled people and children with Downs and Autism will be cut off hence killed off as well. just totally lying, but how disturbed is he.
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CatB
Sep. 5, 2012 at 10:41pmIt’s all they have .. LIE LIE AND MORE LIES!
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floridareader
Sep. 5, 2012 at 10:46pmThis is no news. It;s just their life style.
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DarkJello
Sep. 5, 2012 at 10:47pmWe are rapidly approaching an economic nightmare.
Progressives want to go even faster, conservatives want to change direction.
Oh, and Owebama being “charismatic” does not help pay the bills. Nifty, but not needed.
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VoteBushIn12
Sep. 5, 2012 at 11:00pmBarack Obama– 74% Half Truth or better
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/\
Mitt Romney– 58% Half Truth or better
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mitt-romney/
Speaks for itself:
Forget their policies. I wont elect a liar into office.
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soybomb315_II
Sep. 5, 2012 at 11:26pmyup, they are similar in that they lie more than they tell the truth
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therealconservative
Sep. 5, 2012 at 11:47pm@soysauce
Yep, just like Ron Paul/Gary Johnson lie, lie and lie.
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Sep. 5, 2012 at 11:54pmPolitifact does not use neutral sources when checking things like what an apology tour is. I don’t consider them credible.
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hold_my_stones
Sep. 6, 2012 at 12:35amThe O-man, Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the world works, no balls, nothing but abstract, empty rhetoric devoid of real substance
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VoteBushIn12
Sep. 6, 2012 at 10:37pm@ANONYMOUS T. IRRELEVANT
That’s a laugh.
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Ghandi was a Republican
Sep. 5, 2012 at 10:36pmThey don’t want you to have a choice. They always say “you don’t have a plan” and then make up a nasty plan and say “this is YOUR plan” Meantime they themselves only have 1 plan. Make sure that you don’t ever find out their real plan! Then they are stuck trying to implement their plan in secret, behind closed doors in secret meetings away from the public eye, at which point they are found out and sent packing for another decade or 2 till they can try their same lame scheme again. The very definition if insanity. More Republicans are created every time this process is witnessed.
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mtsnj
Sep. 5, 2012 at 10:33pmLiar liars they will fudge their own birth certificate to stay here. An American travesty..a non naturalized citizen gets to be president, and runs up the bills like no other..The truth will be told.
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soybomb315_II
Sep. 5, 2012 at 10:31pmah, everytime i see any of the speeches at the RNC or DNC they are chalked full of lies designed to dupe the independent voter
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Ghandi was a Republican
Sep. 5, 2012 at 10:40pmSorry– I didn’t heart any lies, although the media and Democrat aloonsky-ites claim that there were..,
It’s not a lie because a liberal says it’s a lie unless and only If it is in fact a lie.. An extremely rare event, proportionately. It’s nothing but an Aloonsky tactic..
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therealconservative
Sep. 5, 2012 at 10:41pmKind of like Ron Paul/Gary Johnson speeches, full of all talk and no action.
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DarkJello
Sep. 5, 2012 at 10:49pmSoy:
There is not any 5 R leaders that can compete with the river of lies from the DNC chair.
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13th Imam
Sep. 5, 2012 at 10:52pmDid someone say something? I could have sworn I heard gas passing. Nevermind
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soybomb315_II
Sep. 5, 2012 at 11:28pm@13th
Did it sound like this….”pffffft”
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kickagrandma
Sep. 5, 2012 at 10:27pmWell, of course they do. They LIE, always.
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Brittany-Imbriaarts
Sep. 5, 2012 at 10:38pmIs it a surprise that they are lying about these issues. Cause its the only way to hold on to their zombie like followers.
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