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Cardinal Dolan Prays For Protection of Unborn Children at Dem Convention

Sep. 7, 2012 12:14am Jason Howerton

Cardinal Timothy Dolan Prays For Protection of Unborn Children at DNC

Cardinal Timothy Dolan (AP)

Directly after President Barack Obama’s nomination acceptance speech at the DNC, Cardinal Timothy Dolan in his closing benediction prayed for God to protect the lives of those “waiting to be born,” seemingly lecturing Democrats whose official platform defends a woman’s right to have an abortion.

“Grant us the courage to defend life…waiting to be born, welcomed and protected,” he said. He also prayed for “life, without which no other rights are secured.”

He went on: “God grants us the right to life so we can choose liberty and happiness…We praise You for the gift of life, grant us the courage to defend it.”

Dolan was initially rejected by the Democratic National Convention but was later invited to give the closing benediction after the convention was pounded with criticism for the move.

Watch Dolan deliver the closing benediction via the Washington Free Beacon below:

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DIR
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 1:20am
With all due respect Cardinal, what a dummy. While at the demonic convention. just give the unborn last rights before they’re put to death, and be done with it. Most those people there (sandra fluke, babs, boxer, nancy pelosi and a cast of thousands of women, all being robbed of the reproductive rights by nasty republicans) are killers and at the least are accomplices to murder.

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- kryptonite
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 1:44am
  He might as well have gone down to the pit of hell and prayed.
  
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- PATTY HENRY
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 2:03am
  I assure you, Cardinal Dolan go where he’s directed to go for reasons we may not understand. He takes his walking orders from GOD. The only place any of us should take our walking orders!
  
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- Watermain
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 2:34am
  @kryptonite: He may well have been in the pit of hell tonight.
  
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- spikebu
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 2:39am
  He’s a Priest. Isn’t he supposed to preach The Word to people who either haven’t heard it, or don’t understand it? Great venue. These are the people who booed God.
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 3:52am
  @PATTY HENRY
  I usually agree with you, but not this time. Words from the Master:
  
  “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet… “(Matt. 7:6)
  
  @WATERMAIN
  In a way, I guess. A lot of the ambassadors of Hell were there, that’s for sure.
  
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- Sayre
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 4:38am
  “So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth; It shall not return to Me void, But it shall accomplish what I please, And it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it.” Isaiah 55:11.. I believe Cardinal Dolan, a man of prayer who recognizes that being a Democrat, or pro-abortion, does not divorce these people as objects of Christ’s command to love. He seems to have a good understanding of the power of prayer and the Divine virtue of Hope. We will never know how many people, there at the convention, or on TV… who may have been, ever so slightly, touched by his words of truth. Cardinal Dolan sowed the seeds, God knows the quality of the soil, they landed in.
  
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- PaxInVeritate
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 6:47am
  Here is the gist of it, the truth was given in prayer. Some souls will hear and respond, others won’t. Those who won’t respond and repent will be doing so by their own free will, which God will abide by, and righteous judgment will be meted out to their portion by their own free will. Therefore, fast and pray that those darkened souls who were present will respond to the Spirit of the Lord. It’s 3:50 AM here, insomnia once again, so might as well pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet for the conversion of those souls.
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 7:02am
  @PAXINVERITATE
  Here is the gist of it, the truth was given in prayer
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  Hello, PAX. I think I’ll side with TEDDRUNK who said: “Some may say that him speaking there lent credibility to the Democratic Party, the party of dead children.”
  
  Yep. That’s what they wanted, and that’s what they got. We are to be instruments of righteousness, not useful idiots (no disrespect intended). Just saying it like it is.
  
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- omni3460
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 8:55am
  Still it’s worth the effort. USA has become an uncilivized barbaric society.
  Father’s beloved Farmer Democrat Party is now the above, kill babies and hate God.
  However, how can they love God when Government is their God. So sad ! JB
  
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- Alecto
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 9:03am
  Dolan thinks he’s an adept mediator. I’m sure he’s hedging Catholic bishop’s bets by planting one foot in each camp by praying at each convention, but all he’s done is show that he’s willing to sacrifice Catholic principles by attending the godless, intrinsically evil Democrat National Convention. Those people are insane or possessed.
  
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- bogaridy
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 9:04am
  I watched to closing prayer and thought it was fantastic. Not only did he slap dems on abortion, but he also prayed for a return to natures law, slapping the homosexual community. He was definitely doing God’s work. Bless Him!
  
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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 9:16am
  How can any Catholic attend a Democrat Convention but a Cardinal? Democrat Party kills babies, the elderly, the sick, and will setup Death Panels. The Democrat Party is party that Booed God. I now believe the Jews were right about the Catholic Church supporting Hitler during WWII. The Cardinal’s attendance does not have any other explanation. What about the Democrat Party dons’t the Cardinal understand?
  
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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 9:24am
  PATTY HENRY
  PATTY HENERY
  
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 2:03am
  I assure you, Cardinal Dolan go where he’s directed to go for reasons we may not understand. He takes his walking orders from GOD. The only place any of us should take our walking orders.
  ====================================================================
  
  Do you really believe that?
  
  Bishop Sheen warned back in the 1960s that the DEMONIC had infiltrated the Catholic Church and he was worried.
  
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- westtitus
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 9:36am
  At least he prayed for them, more than some do. You either take action and prayer is an action or you should not even get in the conversation, You can volunteer at Birth Right or other groups out there and make a difference. Doing nothing is the same as being for it.
  
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- myownperson1970
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 10:12am
  Do you mean the way that Jesus came down and lived among sinners like you and me? Or do you mean that salvation is only for “good” people like you? I’m confused by your comment. It’s not a Christian point of view, is it?
  
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- BetterInformed
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 10:12am
  Muffy
  
  So you think the Cardinal would be better off ” preaching to the choir ” ? Remind me not to hire you when I stat my church.
  
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- Dismayed Veteran
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 10:14am
  As a Catholic, I am very disappointed that Cardinal DolaIn chose to go the DNC convention. I realize that many Catholics are Democrates and he was reminding them of the Church’s teaching concern abortion.
  
  However, I believe that the Catholic Church must send a clear and undiluted message to Catholics in the Democratic Party that membership in that party is a direct attack on the Church’s fundamental teachings.
  
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- Balrog28
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 10:16am
  I believe Jesus showed us the way to live our lives. Who did he hang around with while he preached the Good News? Just the good and decent folk? No – he hung out with a whole lot of sinners and even people who would end up denying or betraying him before he died on the cross (for us all – even those people at the DNC).
  Mark 4:12 so that, “‘they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!’”
  It’s the ‘otherwise’ part – that’s the reason that Cardinal Dolan was there. Hopefully we will all see some of those that turn their hearts and souls back to God when we, hopefully, are with God after we are finished on this earth.
  
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- independent2
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 10:33am
  don’t forget that Jesus came for the sinners, not the righteous. pray that the Holy Spirit
  will touch those who were there to experience enlightenment.
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 10:54am
  @ALROG
  I believe Jesus showed us the way to live our lives. Who did he hang around with while he preached the Good News? Just the good and decent folk? No – he hung out with a whole lot of sinners and even people who would end up denying or betraying him before he died on the cross
  —–
  Geez, some of you are so religious you are no earthly good. You’d better get your doctrine straight, or you will become useful idiots who unwittingly serve the evil that is trying to/has in good measure engulfed America.
  
  Jesus categorically did not “hang out” with sinners. He called sinners to repent, i.e., preached the gospel to whosoever would hear, and He received all sinners who came and honestly repented: “He who has ears to hear, let him hear.” Matter of fact, Jesus spoke in parables, so the gospel would be hidden from people like the DimComs who hate God and only use Him as a means to an end. (Matt. 13; Luke 8:10)
  
  Jesus had FELLOWSHIP with his chosen men — very intimate fellowship with three of them — and with holy women who had also cleaned up their acts. Judas was the exception, but notice Jesus called him “a devil” and Judas never partook of the Lord’s Supper. Judas himself chose not to belong. He was too busy stealing money and being a tool for Satan to have Jesus killed.
  
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- Balrog28
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 11:27am
  @Kryptonite
  “Geez, some of you are so religious you are no earthly good. ” – What does that even mean? I was speaking in a general way when I said ‘hung out with’ – yes you’re right – he called people to repent and sin no more, and some of them even became his apostles. I meant that he went and spoke to sinners, comforted the afflicted, and afflicted the comfortable. That was my point in the first place.
  But you disregard wholly Mark 14:17-19?:
  When evening came, Jesus arrived with the Twelve. While they were reclining at the table eating, he said, “I tell you the truth, one of you will betray me–one who is eating with me.” They were saddened, and one by one they said to him, “Surely not I?”.
  
  I don’t mean to start a bible quote battle at all – but surely you believe that Judas was with Jesus in the upper room?
  
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- oneshiner
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 11:29am
  He was there for a reason, unknown to us. Perhaps he struck a nerve with some of the people who will re-think killing babies, just because they’re a nuisance. Heaven or Hell? Jesus loves the little children was the song I learned when I was young, and I believe it.
  
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- Gumbie
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 11:42am
  Didn’t even Jesus eat & congregate with “sinners & tax collectors”? Cardinal Dolan was doing what he must.
  
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- LAURIE NULL
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 1:00pm
  Although this man is not a prophet, the point is made. Hopefully, there will be some in the audience that will heed the warning. Ezekiel 2:5~~And they, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear, (for they [are] a rebellious house,) yet shall know that there hath been a prophet among them.
  
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- Sara123
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 1:07pm
  The lions’ den is exactly where Christians must go to pray. Put some light on that darkness and generosity and love in front of that envy and hate.
  
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- Drewed1
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 2:39pm
  God Bless Cardinal Dolan! Even in the court of the ideologues that prefer the death of the unborn to the birth of a new God created Life, he spoke Truth and of Justice! I believe he did well!
  
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- sw12
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 3:26pm
  I thought it was a great speech given at just the right time at the right place. I bet that was a hard pill for them to swallow. No wonder why they didn’t want him to speak.
  
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- edmundburk
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 6:45pm
  I thank cardinal dolan for his efforts at the DNC, but I still think he should not do the al smith dinner with
  obama.
  
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- Reverend-Joe
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 7:50pm
  Cardinal Dolan is a hero of the conservative movement. He will take the fight to ANY battlefield. The most extreme element at the DNC was recently wounded by the inclusion of God and Jerusalem in the platform, then the Cardinal showed up to rub salt in the wounds and further widen the rift within the Democrat party. I wonder how many democrat vote Obama lost among the fringe Democrats.
  Also – let’s spread “Patriotic Correctness” and use the designation “Pre-Term” babies. All babies who were never conceived are “unborn” babies. A “Pre-Term” baby is similar to a “Premie” except it is not outside of the womb.
  
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- Want our country back
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 8:00pm
  This article is VERY long and a little disjointed because it’s an interview with a WH insider but if you have time, it’s interesting.
  http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/09/07/death-from-denver-barack-obamas-2008-convention-revisited/
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 8:32pm
  @BALROG
  I don’t mean to start a bible quote battle at all – but surely you believe that Judas was with Jesus in the upper room?
  ——-
  Brethren don’t fight, but we can spar a bit if you like. :)
  
  Yes, Judas was in the upper room eating the Passover meal, but he left and walked into the night — both literally and spiritually — before the Lord taught and celebrated Communion (breaking of the bread and drinking of the wine.) Cp. Matt. 26:23: “He who DIPPED HIS HAND WITH ME IN THE DISH” with John 13:26, 30: “That is the one for whom I shall DIP THE MORSEL and give it to him. So when He had dipped the morsel, He took and gave it to Judas…Having received the piece of bread he [Judas] then went out IMMMEDIATELY. That is an entirely different event from the breaking of bread (one whole bread representing the body). Jesus took bread, BLESSED IT and BROKE IT, and gave it TO THE DISCIPLES and said, “Take, eat; this is My body.” THEN He took the cup, and GAVE THANKS, and gave it to them… (Matt. 26-29). [emphasis added]
  
  Luke’s gospel is not a chronological narrative in other instances, so we need to put together the events based on the other three gospels. (CONT.)
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 8:37pm
  @BALROG (CONT.)
  You also need to read 1Cor. 11 where the Apostle Paul’s expounds on the Lord’s Supper. It announces/remembers the New Covenant in his blood (vs. 25-26), thus it can only be partaken of by believers; if you eat or drink of the Lord’s supper in an unworthy manner, you sin against his most holy sacrifice, which is why the Lord will judge/discipline you even to the point of sickness or death, to spare you from being condemned with the world (vs. 27-32).
  
  If you understand the holiness and power of the Lord’s Supper, it will be evident to you that Jesus would not have allowed “a devil” to partake of it. He would have defiled his own sacrifice. I am not Catholic, i.e., I don’t believe in literally drinking blood (which is strictly forbidden even in the New Covenant), but the Lord’s Supper is a spiritual act with actual spiritual consequences.
  
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- PaxInVeritate
  Posted on September 8, 2012 at 12:53am
  Hello to you too KRYPTONITE…
  I don’t think giving a benediction (prayer) that blatantly points out the moral errors of the democratic plank as lending “credibility” to the Democratic Party.
  To say that they are “dead children” is passing judgement on the final disposition of their souls, which is Jesus’s domain, as well as saying that they are incapable to receive the Truth and respond. If I were to project your position to Lot in regards to Sodom and Gomorrah, he wouldn’t even have asked God to save one soul from His wrath.
  If I remember correctly, they did not want Cardinal Dolan to be there at all. But because of all the bad publicity in the lead up to the convention they thought better of it.
  No disrespect taken nor given. Right judgement in regards to human righteousness is on ideas and actions but not the soul, nor who gets to hear the Truth which is the ultimate instrument to save souls.
  
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- PaxInVeritate
  Posted on September 8, 2012 at 2:06am
  KRYPTONITE…
  ”I am not Catholic, i.e., I don’t believe in literally drinking blood (which is strictly forbidden even in the New Covenant), but the Lord’s Supper is a spiritual act with actual spiritual consequences.”
  
  Please understand, John 6:55-57 (NIV):
  “55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. 57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.”
  
  Why do Protestants take the words of Jesus literally for everything but this? He meant what he said.
  
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- PaxInVeritate
  Posted on September 8, 2012 at 4:06am
  KRYPTONITE… If you would please, click this link and take the time to read this message in it’s entirety.
  
  September 4th, 2012
  http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/my-name-is-no-longer-revered-my-name-is-cursed/
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on September 8, 2012 at 1:19pm
  PAX,
  I think TED was alluding to abortion when he used the term “dead children,” since it is the Dims who want to abort babies in the womb.
  
  Regarding the Lord’s Supper (LS), let me put it this way: I do take the whole text literally, but the interpretation is spiritual, not physical. That’s what I meant in my comment to BALROG. Therefore, the LS is not simply symbolic to me, it’s “SPIRIT and life.” (emphasis added).
  
  The rule of thumb to interpret a verse is to look at the whole counsel of God. Jesus explained quite clearly what he meant by his body and blood in John 6:36: “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.” (CONT.)
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on September 8, 2012 at 1:33pm
  @PAX (CONT.)
  Even if it were possible to literally eat Jesus’ body and drink his blood, it would do no good. The sacrifice on the cross was a spiritual act to redeem us from spiritual rebellion resulting in a spiritual state called “sin.” We commit sins (plural) — acts or attitudes that are contrary to God’s commandments — because we have sin (singular), i.e., a sinful nature. That is a spiritual condition. Unless the Spirit convicts you of sin (singular) you won’t even know works can’t save. You can go to whatever church, pray, confess you sins/wrongdoings and be religiously “good” and still not be saved. You have to be born again of the Spirit, because our spirits lost their communion (died) with the most Holy God when Adam sinned. All this is explained and expounded upon in Romans and Hebrews.
  
  In re the topic of this thread, our part as human beings is to receive the good news. The Dim Party not only continues to reject the gospel, but it is now viciously opposing it because of Obama, so I do not believe in being a part of his/their ploy. To me that is being a tool. As they say, we will have to respectfully agree to disagree. Note: the vs. is John 6:63.
  
  Aw, PAX, there you go again, wanting me to read your Catholic theology. :)
  
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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on September 9, 2012 at 6:24pm
  Dolan helped to deceive millions of Catholic Hispanic voters with his presence at the Convention. Its no different than the Priest who is the President of Notre Dame University covering up all the statues of Jesus so Obama would not be offended when he visited.
  
  I begin to think that the Jews are right when they accuse the Catholic Church of knowing about the Holocaust and supporting the Nazi German Government. If Bishops support Obama’s government knowing what is happening why would they not have supported Hitler. Its all about Obama care and killing babies and many Catholics don’t care.
  
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- thankfulness
  Posted on September 10, 2012 at 8:48am
  Don’t forget Johah. When God commanded him to go to NIveah. And Johah as a mere human did not want to obey God because as a human he judged people of niveah as unworthy. And yet he ultimately did go to Niveaha to spread the Word. Though he did not like doing it. Anyway we are mere humans and as humans we really have no clue whatsoever what Gods will is. All I do is believe. And I try to do what is expected of me and believe that the Will of God is sometimes hard to understand. The point I am making is that God always reaches out to those in most need of his Word. And He wants All his children to be given a chance. It is our choice whether or not to believe and it is our choice whether or not to follow.
  One of my most favorite quotes is “those without sin cast the first stone” Something to think about.
  
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WINNEBAGOMAN
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 1:16am
That must have been a different crowd cheering and praising Sandra Fluke the other night.

Took God out of the platform. And openly cheering for stances which really declare abortion at any time for any reason. I wonder if the good Cardinal was there for Caroline Kennedy’s speech? She began her statement with “As a Catholic…” and then went on to support “reproductive rights,” which – well – let’s call it what it is: Abortion rights. I wish TImothy Dolan would have marched on stage and excomunicated her right then and there. Not so much for her stance (that came as no surprise to anyone, really), but for being so stupid. “As a Catholic…”??? Really?

I wasn’t alive for JFK. All that I’ve read and heard is that he was a brilliant and articulate leader. That gene must have died with him. Every other Kennedy I’ve heard speak in my life-time, falls far short of JFK’s standard. I hope we (Americans) can stop with the romantic vision of an American royal family. That’s not what this country is about. But if some people must have their royalty, can we please pick worthy family?!

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- Girard1974
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 4:02am
  “All that I’ve read and heard is that he was a brilliant and articulate leader.”
  
  From whom did you hear such a thing? No, actually he was rather pathetic during his short presidency. Had he actually been doing well, he would still be alive today; the only reason he was in Texas was to shore up votes for the election nearly a year into the future. LBJ (his VEEP) should have been able to deliver Texas, but because of his Bay of Pigs debacle and other lackluster leadership, Kennedy couldn’t depend on him.
  
  JFK is remembered today with such reverence and respect due to the sacrifice of his life to an assassin’s bullets – and he certainly has earned his place in history because of November 22, 1963. I like so many other Americans remember precisely where I was when I learned of his death; I watched Jack Ruby kill Oswald on live television two days later; and then saw on my B&W TV as John-John saluted his father’s casket as it rolled by (well-rehearsed, by the way, but poignant nevertheless).
  
  Regardless, let’s try to remember the political history as it truly panned out for Kennedy. The true tragedy was that brother Robert was robbed of his chance at greatness; and thank God Edward was never given the opportunity to screw things up due to his homicidal tendencies.
  
  Anyway, that’s how I remember the Three Kennedy’s. But then again I was only seven years old, so what did I know?
  
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- Meyvn
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 3:36pm
  They probably bus different crowds for different events as needed.
  
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- Virgil_Lance
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 9:23pm
  If JFK were alive today – I wonder if he would be a leader in the Tea Party?
  http://governmentgonewild.org/jfkvsbarackobama
  
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pwatkins
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 1:16am
His prayer showed them that God is still in control and that all of us will be held accountable for our sins, no matter whether you get permission by an evil government or not. God will never be taken out of anything by man.

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- Cavy2see
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 9:52pm
  We should all be praying maybe a few heard his message…God only knows what is in the heart of man/woman…but we need for them to hear it…Cardinal Dolan is a brave man…good priest…trying to make God and Country heard into the hearts…maybe just maybe…some will turn to the saving of our babies…and elderly to live good lives…until natural death…we do have hospices to help for pain today…suffering is part of our Christ like lives…look at the way Jesus was treated…thank you Cardinal Dolan for trying…God Bless…and God Bless America…I do not want Obama again to win…but God help us if he does I am worried…praying to not worry but I do….we need to pray…
  
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Woungo
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 1:14am
Thank you Cardinal Dolan for defending the weak , silent and defenseless, especially the children living in their mother’s womb.Thank you also for defending our first amendment right of freedom of religion from government intrusion and dictates, as this was the primary reason our country was founded. One realizes how as government gobbles our individual freedoms, they are trying to replace God with government.

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- Texas.7
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 2:13pm
  Yes, thank you Cardinal Dolan. While many are disappointed in your choice to attend the convention, I say go where God sends you, to pray for friends and enemies alike, to speak truth, declare the rights of the helpless, and to encourage faith and love. May your brave act melt many hearts- and I know it took bravery to face that crowd!
  
  Cardinal Dolan was invited to pray where God was rejected. But remember that the crowd was torn. Joseph honoured God before Pharaoh, and Daniel honoured God before Nebuchadnezzar. Let the Spirit work in their hearts.
  
  Why should he have turned down the invitation to prayer? If they wrote his prayer for him, as a watered down appeasement, he should have declined. But these were obviously his own words, based on scripture. If his invitation was meant for pretence by some, God can still use it for good.
  
  Freedom of religion is vanishing. We need revival, and many who are standing on the wrong side right now will find Christ before it is too late. Millions of home viewers were able to hear the wonderful prayer of Cardinal Dolan. What a privileged for him to have that opportunity! Surely, God’s Word does not return void, and many hearts may have been touched.
  
  Also, he provided a stark contrast between God’s love and the god-of-self, which justifies abortion. May the truth about human rights and the love of Christ find a home in many hearts.
  
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vtxphantom
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:53am
This was the only part of the convention I listened to. I tried listening to obama but soon found it was BS like all his other speeches.

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- kryptonite
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 2:56am
  But were the Dimrats listening to the Cardinal’s prayer? The close-ups appear to show a general atmosphere of respect, but starting @3:18, the camera pans over the audience and you get a more accurate picture of what’s going on while the Cardinal is praying: people talking, laughing, checking their smartphones, their backs to the podium, etc. In other words, it was a staged ritual to them. Who do those godless souls think they’re fooling?
  
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Chet Hempstead
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:51am
God bless our valiant abortionists, true sentinels of liberty, and keep them safe from the fiendish depredations of the fetus right loonies, the wicked foes of freedom.

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- Hex_Omega
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 1:24am
  In the words of Maude.. “God will get you for that!” Say hello to Margaret Sanger on your journey across the river Styx.
  
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floridareader
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:46am
I just listened again Cardinal Dolan’s benediction at RNC and although basically he used the same words, during the RNC he thanked, amongst other things, for the generosity of our country, and didn’t need to say much about the protection of the unborn as he did said and repeated at the DNC.

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Wesley
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:43am
Cardinal Timothy Dolan’s closing benediction was the very best part of the DNC.

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- QuincySmith
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 1:00am
  Wesley;
  
  Yes, not only the thanks he gave and the blessings he sought, but that it was finally over.
  
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- GlennaBeckski
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 4:58am
  He stood out like a Rose in a plethora of thorns.
  
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- teddrunk
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 6:42am
  Some may say that him speaking there lent credibility to the Democratic Party, the party of dead children.
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 6:52am
  @TEDDRUNK
  Some may say that him speaking there lent credibility to the Democratic Party, the party of dead children.
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  I, for one.
  
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- Gonzo
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 8:15am
  Anyone know why TV commentators often call him Timothy Cardinal Dolan vs. Cardinal Timothy Dolan? The first time I heard it I thought the reporter just got toungue tied, I hear it a lot now.
  
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- by faith
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 9:44am
  Gonzo
  
  Timothy Cardinal Dolan is the proper way to address the Cardinal
  
  this link might help address your question
  http://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/d003rpHowToAddressClergy.html
  
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- by faith
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 9:53am
  It is a more formal address. Like saying thee or thou instead of the
  
  The formal word order originated in the time when last names were not common, but individuals were known by occupations or even places. For example, “John, the Smith” (or Blacksmith) eventually became “John Smith.” The same evolution occurred with Cardinals: What would have been “William, the Cardinal” would now be, with the use of family names, “William Cardinal Keeler.”
  
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- Gonzo
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:35pm
  Thanks By Faith. I appreciate the effort.
  
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OlefromMN
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:41am
Cardinal Dolan did what his calling asked. He prayed for the unborn. He prayed for wise leadership in the human race. He prayed for guidance in general. It was non-partisan if anybody is intellectually honest.

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VoteRightDammit
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:36am
We NEED to stop referring to these babies as “UNBORN” ….. that puts them is some separate category, playing into the abortionists hands (similar to calling the baby a ‘fetus’).

These babies are “not yet born”

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- OlefromMN
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:46am
  I apologize for my post that has not yet been shown. I agree.
  
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- spikebu
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 2:45am
  Why not just call them what they are? Babies.
  
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- DOra Glasberg
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 6:24am
  And don’t forget babies born 10 years from now!.
  Maybe we should also go back to criticize ‘men spilling their seed’?
  
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- WindyDualism
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 7:21am
  Dora
  Would this not be a fabulous thread to share again your two abortions and your apathy over them? “meh”, was your previous verbiage, for reasons unknown. Stellar, upstanding human you are.
  
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- bitterclinger
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 10:27am
  “Babies not yet born.” Excellent!
  
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- mary12153
  Posted on September 8, 2012 at 12:43am
  Its a baby when you want it. Its tissue mass when you don’t want it.
  
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E.Z. Las Vegas
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:34am
Dolan mentioned liberty and freedom about 15 times during the speech. He also mentioned Devine Providence, and natural law. In short, he tore the whole convention apart in five minute.
Clearly Cardinal Dolan is positioning himself to be a leader of the Black Robe Brigade! God bless him.
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- TheCowardlyLion
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 2:26am
  I couldn’t agree more he brought light into the darkness!!! He truly went to tend to the sick who needed healing…. Hopefully something he said pierced some lost souls through Christ our lord!
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 3:39am
  @COWARDLYLION
  Hopefully something he said pierced some lost souls through Christ our lord!
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  You mean there’s hope someone in that crowd decided not to vote for Obama after listening to the Cardinal’s closing prayer? Really, friend? Are you that naive? Nobody gave a **** what he said. Their unison “Amen” was akin to spitting in the face of almighty God. Why? Because EVERY Dim in that crowd will still vote for abortion activist, Barack Obama. They have all forsaken the living God to follow after a worker of iniquity, i.e., a man who does everything in his power — and he’s got a lot of it — so that the will of God is NOT done on earth as it is in heaven.
  
  Rather, we should all be praying for Barack’s removal from office.
  
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- Texas.7
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 2:27pm
  kryptonite,
  Jesus was that naive when He said of the men nailing him to the cross, “forgive them, for they know not what they do”. I’ll be the first to say that they can make my blood boil, but I refuse to believe that some among the deceived will not find the Lord before it is too late. That is our purpose right now, to help them find truth, to take the country back if we can, to teach all that are or would be deceived, and to strengthen the faithful. Paul killed Christians, and God was able to change his heart. I believe God may have sent the Cardinal to the party that denied God, so that His Spirit could shine light on the contrast between truth and lies, and open the eyes of many. Half the convention attendees voted for God, and half to deny God. Obviously, for some, there is an opening for truth, even if they are following the enemy right now. It is not ours to close the door in their faces if the Lord stands with the door open, calling to them.
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 9:07pm
  TEXAS
  I don’t disagree with you in principle.
  
  Some observations: At the cross, Jesus forgave those soldiers who acted out of ignorance. Contrast that to what he told Pilate: “You could have no power at all against Me unless it had been given you from above. Therefore the one who delivered Me to you has the greater sin.”
  
  And about Judas: “The Son of man goes indeed, according as it is written concerning him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is delivered up; it were good for that man if he had not been born.” (Matt. 26:24)
  
  Paul, speaking of himself says: “… who before was a blasphemer and persecutor, and an insolent overbearing [man]; but mercy was shewn me because I did it ignorantly, in unbelief. (1 Tim 1:13). He also says that God’s grace towards him, “has not been in vain.” (1 Cor. 15:10).
  
  I made two points. First, that we are extended grace, but God may give you up if you continue to knowingly and egregiously sin and rebel against him. We see that in Rom 1 and many other passages. Second: We don’t know if and when that happens, so we need to continue to preach and intercede for the unsaved. However, this event was staged by the DNC as a political ploy. Giving a “closing benediction” there was not transformative; it was mere religiosity. In fact, the good Cardinal took the opportunity to throw several not so indirect political jabs at the DNC.
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 9:47pm
  @TEXAS
  Two quick final pts.: 1) Re-inserting “God-given potential” hardly constititutes “voting for God.” It’s meaningless.
  
  2) I agree with you that we need to reach out to individual Dims. This, however, was an official DNC event. The PARTY as such is anti-God — vehemently and actively so. They are sold out to evil. I hope you can see that. Otherwise, you will be deceived and used by them.
  
  Paul says: “… so that no advantage would be taken of us by Satan, for we are not ignorant of his schemes (2 Cor. 2:11). It’s good advice, no matter the situation.
  
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- Texas.7
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 11:08pm
  kryptonite,
  I’m sure we mostly agree. We know they are on the wrong side, listening to the enemy. But Cardinal Dolan’s prayer may serve an important purpose as far as I could tell. I am hopeful that there were SOME in the convention hall who voted to keep God mentioned (at least) in the platform, who are Christian, but were enticed by the lies. Could any of these awaken to truth? I don’t know, but I’m sure there was more of a mixed crowd of viewers at home.
  
  Cardinal Dolan helped to illustrate the vast difference between these parties. He brought a message of life to a people who largely approve of killing babies. He has sparked national discussion which must leave some moderates wondering why they are Democrat.
  
  And if we are to walk among non-believers, preaching the gospel to all nations, I have to say that the Democratic convention is as alien as it gets. And yet they invited him to pray. They didn’t give him a script. Some famous pastors praying at national events have so watered down their message for the audience- but Cardinal Dolan did not comply if he was asked. More podium time for devout Christians with worthy messages is a no brained as far as I can tell. Again, he didn’t play on their team at all- he just spoke at the game. And some might change sides, as the contrast between parties becomes more clear for anyone who hasn’t been paying attention.
  
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- Texas.7
  Posted on September 8, 2012 at 1:39pm
  kryptonite,
  I need to apologise to you in part. While I still believe the prayer was appropriate, I had a realisation this morning which I need to tell you. Our lying president who embraces God in public when it will help his image, and denounces Him through both words and action- has the audacity to pretend (when it suits him) to believe in the words that were spoken. THAT may, in fact, be why the Cardinal Dolan’s speech wasn’t edited. Obama is a chameleon- a wolf who is comfortable pulling out the sheep skin over our eyes.
  
  But God’s Word will not return void. The Spirit will reveal hearts. Moderates, if they pay attention, can witness the Democratic party imploding upon itself, as extremists fight against the president whenever he pretends to be mainstream.
  
  It will be very important for the Republicans to showcase that contrast. A powerful add would include clips of the convention hall rejecting God three times. Another add might show the Cardinal’s words next to Obama’s words, contrasting truth with Obama’s belief system. Show the lunacy which was the Dem convention, and their radical move to the left under Obama. Show what is under the sheep skin to expose the wolf.
  
  Cardinal Dolan’s prayer was appropriate and showed both grace and courage. He did not play to the crowd. Now the ball is in the Rep court to expose the lies of the enemy, and the true convictions of a deceptive candidate.
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on September 8, 2012 at 1:58pm
  TEXAS,
  I appreciate your views and respect your position. Personally, I think there is a time and place for everything (Ecclessiastes) and this was not it, being that it was inextricably tied to an evil intent. Frankly, this debate about abortion has become center stage since Obama started persecuting the Catholic Church, so I doubt that the Cardinal’s short benediction made a difference. The people who attended are devout Obamanites. My foremost and most fervent plea is for God to remove the man. He is the satanic vessel and head there, and unless he is taken out of the way — something only God can do — it will be an uphill battle to snatch those souls from the fire.
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on September 8, 2012 at 2:10pm
  TEXAS,
  Sorry, I replied before seeing your second comment — very insightful observation. Yep, that’s Obama, the worker of iniquity.
  
  Let’s continue to intercede before Almighty God. I believe the Romney-Ryan campaign will focus on the economy. The spiritual battle is ours to wage.
  
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- Texas.7
  Posted on September 8, 2012 at 3:18pm
  Amen, though I hope that we find a place where the bravery to express one’s convictions returns to the public arena. Political correctness is killing us. Bless you
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on September 9, 2012 at 12:59pm
  GBYT and GBTUSA
  
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DOra Glasberg
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:33am
How about some protection for BORN children instead of giving pedo priests $20,000
to quit the church Timmy?

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- FSM_47
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:40am
  The most dangerous place to be a female is in a Latino or Black womb.
  
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- floridareader
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:56am
  Dora, pedophiles are not only in the Catholic church. Other churches have them too, but because the Catholic Church is the largest and (people presume) the wealthiest, it gets all the attention and the blame.
  And before anybody say something about the wealth of the Catholic church, it is in the museums, in the art, in the centuries old buildings, not in the safes hidden somewhere in the Vatican.
  Actually, the Vatican Bank always runs in red, since its budget must support charities, parishes, schools, and other organizations around the world.
  
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- QuincySmith
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 1:03am
  Dora;
  
  You astound me. FIRST, one has to be BORN to be a VICTIM. Your reasoning precludes any VICTIMS because there would be no births. You are truly a sad and hateful person.
  
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- DOra Glasberg
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 6:26am
  Why is that? Too much spicy food?
  
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- teddrunk
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 6:43am
  Wipe your chin dear.
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 7:22am
  DORA,
  You seriously expect men here to listen to what you have to say, when you use Marilyn Monroe as your avatar? I know you don’t look anything like her, so what’s the point? It’s a distraction, just so you know.
  
  OTOH, you may be MONICNE, the girlman, (whose writing style resembles yours), in which case your avatar makes perfect sense.
  
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- proliance
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 8:31am
  The Catholic Church has a lower rate of offending priests than does the various Protestant churches, teachers and even the general population. Let’s fix the problem instead of narrowing the blame to a certain group and ignoring the rest.
  
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- mficentral
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 9:32am
  DORA……………since pedos are everywhere, when are you going to stop kicking that dead dog That’s all you’ve got?
  
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- VRW Conspirator
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:58pm
  Dora…
  
  how about a deal? the Catholic Church will turn over all files on priests that were abusive if the Democratic party suspends forever all federal funding for abortion, Planned Parenthood, and admits LIFE begins at conception, returns abortion to the will of the States as per the 10th Amendment (as well as healthcare, education, Social Security, welfare, transportation, commerce, labor, and energy), and finally gets over themselves and admit that 55 of the 58 Founding Fathers belonged to a Christian denomination, practiced Christianity, and through their writings flat out acknowledge that the United States was ABSOLUTELY a Christian Nation founded on Judeo-Christian teachings and the Laws of Nature and Nature’s God…..
  
  Deal Dora….yeah…thought no…
  
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smokeyridgerunner
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:33am
Sir if you are fighting for unborn children why are you at the Dem’s big party?

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- Dougral Supports Israel
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:39am
  What better place to stick a thumb in their eye?
  
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- E.Z. Las Vegas
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:46am
  Why would Jesus go to prostitutes, lepers, and the demon possessed.
  
  To heal sinners, you have to go to where the sinners are.
  
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- mr.marine87
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 1:00am
  cuz he just pulled a sleeper cell move what better way to protest than in the ending prayer when all ears are listening.
  
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- TheCowardlyLion
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 2:49am
  Why do doctors go to the sick???
  
  Please why do you try to sow discord or anti-catholic prejudice????
  
  You should be happy that truth is being spoken at a convention filled with lies (unless you disagree with Dolan)
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 6:42am
  E.Z. Las Vegas
  Why would Jesus go to prostitutes, lepers, and the demon possessed. To heal sinners, you have to go to where the sinners are.
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  Actually, the prostitutes, lepers, etc., came to Him. :)
  
  It’s true that Jesus went everywhere preaching the Word. However, he never offered a prayer as part of a secular ceremony/event.
  
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- iampraying4u
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 9:42am
  And the demorats boo God?
  
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woodyee
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:32am
Did they pan the crowd during his prayer? I’d like to know if there were any facial expressions of revulsion, or if some in the audience were flipping the Cardinal off, or performing any anti-social behavior that DemonicRats are well known for?

AND – what about the ows/black bloc? I know they were there. Why was there a news black out on that incorrigible group?

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MATT IN MN
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:30am
God bless Dolan. They probably missed it as they were dazed after the sermon from their savior.

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BODYBAG
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:30am
Have to give the good father healthy respect for trying. Especially after the
delegates 24 hours earlier denied & booed God 3 times.

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- TheCowardlyLion
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 2:52am
  How many times did Peter deny Christ?
  
  Hopefully this party will repent and fall back into the fold of our savior
  
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v15
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:26am
If God exists then he tuned out 4 years ago after Reverend Wright’s blasphemous prayer……

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- OlefromMN
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:32am
  Why do you feel God “tuned out”?
  
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- floridareader
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:50am
  V15, it is humankind who tuned out, not God.
  
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- Leopold
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 1:07am
  My God, these democrats are such hypocrites.
  
  Do they really believe God will honor their prayer?
  
  I am not including Atheists in this list. They have an excuse. They don’t know any better.
  
  These democrats are nuts. It really is like God says. They think evil is good and good is evil.
  
  Dem. delegates want to kill Romney.
  
  Live for government.
  
  Eliminate profits for corporations.
  
  Limit choice to only include abortion.
  
  Think republicans want to drown black people.
  
  Think Republicans are Nazis
  
  Think Christians want to kill Jews.
  
  Think Obama is Jesus.
  
  Heck, maybe even Obama thinks he is Jesus. He did say he will lower the sea and heal the planet?
  
  They hate Israel.
  
  They hate God. Here I include Atheists.
  
  What did Anderson Cooper say? DWS is in a different universe?
  
  I think that goes for the whole spectrum of democrats.
  
  Obama has brought such ugliness to America. Doesn’t matter where he was born. He truly brings out the worst in people. From hatred to racism, jealousy, envy, violence, greed. He can also be described as the lawless one.
  
  I hope that God is giving America a second chance. Obama has been good for one thing. Many people are awake and more informed then ever before. He has brought to light what the left is really all about. If people still vote for Obama, the world will have to deal with the consequences.
  
  Remember the world was also clamoring for Obama. And the world belongs to Satan.
  
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- v15
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 1:10am
  @OlefromMN, mother’s intuition lol
  
  @floridareader, Apologies. This white guy hasn’t been to church in awhile…..but Obama is about to scare me back!
  
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- v15
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 1:31am
  Leopold: “Obama has been good for one thing. Many people are awake and more informed then ever before. He has brought to light what the left is really all about. If people still vote for Obama, the world will have to deal with the consequences.”
  
  1990s…was a kid when Clinton was around and didn’t care for politics..
  2000….Bush era…partied too much and still didn’t care for politics…
  2008: Obama gets elected…I just turn 28..and started paying some attention..
  2012: Almost 4 years have passed…now I’m 32 and feel almost forced to keep up with politics. I admit I don’t know the full gravity of the situation but know that my days of sitting on the fence are over…..
  
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- DOra Glasberg
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 2:59am
  But god told Zimmerman to shoot Trayvon.
  Zimmy said so.
  It’s was god’s will.
  
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- DOra Glasberg
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 6:27am
  I think god tuned out when George W. Bush blame HIM for invading Iraq.
  
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- WindyDualism
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 8:09am
  Dora
  Why bring a dead teenager into it? You and your “meh” society are as much to blame for his death as the Zim. Drugs, meh. Beat up a bus driver, meh. Skip school and get gang bling, meh. Get shot for being a wanna be banger, meh. Dora said something, meh, she is probably high on something again, meh.
  
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MarshalRight
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:26am
I’m sure the Liberals will be characterizing this guy as some kind of Hitler monster thing by tomorrow morning.

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1_Smoot_Tall
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:25am
Interesting, he didn’t mention the guilty waiting to be executed at the RNC prayer; hmmmm.

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- angelcat
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:28am
  Those guilty CHOSE to commit the crime which resulted in their punishment. The Catholic Church does NOT forbid capital punishment as it does abortion also, though it does have strict guidelines. Go read a catechism.
  
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- joboww
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 10:37am
  true but you would be hard pressed to find it a real need to have the death penalty in a country like the US with our resources in comparison to poorer countries where capital punishment might (might) be permissible
  
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floridareader
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:24am
Thank God Cardinal Dolan gave his benediction to the DNC. But they need an exorcism.

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- DOra Glasberg
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 6:28am
  Dolan is one big MEH in NYC.
  
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- WindyDualism
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 10:02am
  Let’s expand on your two “meh” abortions…classy gal you are. Frat party scenarios or somebody’s moldy OWS tent? Share Dora, entertain with your meh existence.
  
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Rocky_biskit
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:24am
This was the highlight of the entire convention for me!!!! Yes God still made it into their convention even against many of their wishes!!!

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angelcat
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:22am
Bravo, Cardinal Dolan! I was afraid you might try to be too diplomatic, but you didn’t disappoint me. I bet the Democrats are wishing they had continued to decline your offer about now. I love the way you emphasized God at the end also – 3 times within less than a minute. That must have really annoyed the delegates that wanted it out of the party platform.

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Hillbillybone
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:22am
I am glad to see someone take a stand for a human life at the DNC Convention!

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- DOra Glasberg
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:34am
  What about human life OUTSIDE the womb?
  
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Psychosis
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:20am
democrats arent smart enough to recognize they got punked

have you seen the video asking them dems about their support for choice???

it seems a rather selective support

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denkat56
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:17am
abortion is murder.

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- Hillbillybone
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:23am
  Agreed!
  
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- floridareader
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:24am
  It certainly is. Enough of calling it an issue of women’s health.
  
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- ModerationIsBest
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:26am
  If your God is so all mighty and all knowing, pray that he’ll stop giving babies to women who he knows will get an abortion.
  
  It’s really that simple…..unless of course not everything is possible with God
  
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- Maxim Crux
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:27am
  Yes, I agree
  
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- woodyee
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:28am
  And Gaybama’s the one (in Chicago) that wants a doctor on standby to finish the job that a primary abortion “doctor” botched. Yep – if the baby survived the abortion, Gaybama wanted it finished. If he has no compunction about killing the truly innocent, what would an Gaybama Socio-Communist gobblement NOT do to those who won’t tow his line?
  
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- E.Z. Las Vegas
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:42am
  Moderation is best:
  
  Forgive me if I cite the wrong book off the top of my head, but I believe it is the book of Deuteronomy that says…For today I have set before you a choice between life and death. I ask you to choose life.
  God will always give us the choice…but bear in mind that making the wrong choice can have serious consequences later.
  
  Like a choice between heaven and hell.
  
  And a choice between Republicans and Democrats.
  
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- cykonas
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:48am
  @Moderation
  pray that he’ll stop giving babies to women who he knows will get an abortion.
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  God gave us all free will. It is our responsibility to moderate our actions to reconcile with his laws. It’s not up to the Deity to police our indiscretions. Not here on earth, anyway. Thus I will pray that men and women make the right choices, and that when things to go awry that they will look at alternatives other than abortion. Peace.
  
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- refoundit
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:50am
  @ModerationIsBest: it is called free will. i.e., you get to choose. but you are not forced to choose correctly.
  
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- papakono
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:59am
  Agreed. Abortion is the way demonrats(the true racists) control the population of blacks and latinos, since a full 60% of mothers murdering thier own children are those races. KKK=democrats. Did you know that Martin Luther King was a republican?
  
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- ModerationIsBest
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 1:05am
  Then obviously God doesn’t care that much about abortion.
  
  Also, free will isn’t what is in question here.
  
  I constantly hear Christians say that God knew their child before they did. That God counted the number of hairs on their children. There are stories in the Bible of supposedly barren women getting pregnant because of God.
  
  So therefore, if God hated abortion so much he would stop giving babies who he knew would get an abortion. Therefore they wouldn’t even of had the choice to have the baby or have an abortion.
  
  Plus, let’s not get into free will because there are tons of Christians who don’t believe in free will. Also, if everything is supposedly the will of God, then there is no free will.
  
  Let’s also not get into God “hardening” Pharaoh’s heart. Maybe Pharaoh would’ve released them if God hadn’t of hardened his heart.
  
  Your Bible is the antithesis of peace, love, justice and mercy.
  
  It’s cruelty, hatred, genocide.
  
  Let’s not even get into the new testament where you use Jesus as a scapegoat and willingly accept a human sacrifice on your behalf for some supposed “original sin.”
  
  I find it hilarious that a group of people can say how evil people are that we need to accept a human sacrifice but then say they’re also full of love.
  
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- Leopold
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 2:21am
  @Denkat
  
  Yes, abortion is murder. Before I was a Christian I did it. And I agree, I murdered my own child.
  Carried a heavy load of guilt for 13 long years. I didn’t know Jesus then. Funny thing is, I always knew that it was wrong.
  
  Now I know I will see him again. I wrote a letter to my child. Asking for his forgiveness. I can hardly wait to see him one day.
  
  @moderation
  
  You really should come up with something new.
  
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- DOra Glasberg
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 3:01am
  Not in my religion and according to the laws of the USA. Are YOU above the law?
  So there ya go.
  
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- The Jewish Avenger
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 6:09am
  God Bless the Cardinal, bravest person at the DNC.
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 8:16am
  @MODERATION
  Why are you mixing apples and oranges? It’s one thing for a barren woman to ASK God in faith for a child, and something entirely different for a woman to get pregnant without prayer. The former is a miracle; the latter, the natural human reproductive act.
  
  Who said everything is the will of God? Many of the things we do, even as Christians, are not God’s will. It is definitely not the will of God that any should perish (2 Pet. 2:9). If you go to hell, it will be your choice not his.
  
  God hardened Pharaoh’s heart because Pharaoh hardened his heart first. That’s why it is very dangerous to reject God’s gift of salvation over and over again. A time may come when God will cease dealing with you and you’re toast. God is not a doormat, you know. All is explained more thoroughly in Rom., Ch. 1. Read it.
  
  You bring up all kinds of unrelated points of contention every time a faith story is posted here, specifically, Jesus’ redemptive work on the cross. If you find his sacrifice disgusting, you don’t have to accept it. I, and millions of other human beings, happen to think it’s sublime. End of story.
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 9:20am
  I’ve never heard more horrible things in all my life
  
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- floridareader
  Posted on September 7, 2012 at 9:24am
  to Moderation
  Many times I have had the same reasoning, especially when I have learned about women that have beautiful children and decide to kill them. I always ask “why does God give children to those who don’t deserve them?” and I have to answer to myself: God gave us the Ten Commandments to follow, but He also gave us free will to decide.
  For too long already mankind has gotten away from God. Not only we see it in everyday news, but also saw it this week in the DNC debate to include or exclude God.
  For too long we have seen it since prayer was ousted from schools or when many in the judicial system argue about the constitutionality of the Ten Commandments. This moral rules are not about religion, they are about respect. Yes, respect to God, but also respect to one another.
  When society turn its back against them the world comes to what we have seen maybe too close to comfort this week: booing God while applauding the execution of babies.
  And if you look around, in the world, the farther society is from God, the closer it gets to chaos.
  
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