This is the final installment of the “biggest lies” series TheBlaze has been producing surrounding the untruths and slippery language that has been used at the Democratic National Convention (DNC). We’ve already discussed the five more pronounced lies that were told on the first and second days of the convention. Now, we’re back with five additional lies from Thursday’s event. Here they are:
1) On Thursday, Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) made some bold claims about the GOP’s handling of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid — the nation’s largest, most intensely valued — and most controversial — entitlement programs. The congressman said that “Republicans stood on the sidelines” when these programs were created, a notion that PolitiFact found to be false.
“When too many of our senior citizens who were living their golden years in the darkness of economic security, Democratic President Franklin Roosevelt and a Democratic congress created Social Security, lighting a candle, while the Republicans cursed the darkness,” Clyburn said during his DNC speech.
And he wasn’t done there.
“When too many of our elderly found their lives darkened by unaffordable and inaccessible health care, Lyndon Johnson and a Democratic Congress lit the candles of Medicare and Medicaid, while Republicans stood on the sidelines and cursed the darkness,” he then added.
But, here’s what PolitiFact had to say about these claims:
Although some of the biggest and most vocal opponents of the bills were Republicans, it’s wrong to say that “Republicans stood on the sidelines” when the bills were being considered. On the final vote on Social Security, Republicans overwhelmingly supported the bill. On Medicare and Medicaid, a majority of Republicans voted for the bill in the House, as did a significant minority in the Senate. We rate Clyburn’s claim False.
This statement came from Clyburn just days after he made the bold — and factually inaccurate claim — that Republicans who happen to be Christians think “there’s something wrong with feeding people when they’re hungry.”
2) Vice President Joe Biden took the stage, too, last night, where he made a statement about Romney and Osama bin Laden that wasn’t factually accurate. Rather than placing the comments in their proper context, Biden claimed that Romney once said “it’s not worth moving heaven and earth” to catch the infamous terrorist.
Under a section called “Biden’s bin Laden Baloney,” FactCheck.org wrote:
The claim, which Republicansdisputed, fails to include the rest of Romney’s quote from an Associated Press story. Romney said the country’s focus should not be on one person, but it should be a “broader strategy to defeat the Islamic jihad movement.”
Biden: Folks, Governor Romney didn’t see things that way. When he was asked about bin Laden in 2007, here’s what he said. He said, “It’s not worth moving heaven and earth and spending billions of dollars just to catch one person.”
3) President Barack Obama, too, had some verbal blunders. Among his misleading statements was a claim that his tax plan would merely restore rates to what they were under President Bill Clinton’s administration. This, though, doesn’t take into account the tax increases that the wealthy will face as a result of Obama care; these additional taxes kick in next year. FactCheck.org writes:
Obama refers to his wish to allow the Bush tax cuts to expire for families with over $250,000 annual income, or for individuals with over $200,000. The top marginal income tax rate would return to 39.6 percent, where it was set by Clinton’s 1993 tax increase, up from 35 percent, where it has been since 2003.
But that’s not the whole story. Obama has signed some new taxes to help finance the Affordable Care Act, increasing the burden on those upper-income taxpayers. Starting Jan. 1 next year, they will pay an additional 0.9 percent of wages for Medicare payroll taxes. And they will also be subject to a 3.8 percent tax on investment income from such things as stocks, bonds and sale of real estate. Those are taxes that didn’t exist when Clinton was president. If Obama succeeds in raising the top income tax rates to Clinton-era levels, total taxes on those making over $250,000 family income are thus likely to be higher than they were under Clinton. (They’ll still benefit from the Bush cuts on their income below $250,000, because Obama wouldn’t restore those lower-bracket rates to Clinton levels. So some upper-income taxpayers could still end up paying less federal tax than they paid under Clinton, depending.)
4) Obama also repeated the same claim that Clinton was called out for on Wednesday — that the current president has a plan that will cut deficits by $4 trillion. During his speech, Obama said, “Independent analysis shows that my plan would cut our deficits by $4 trillion. Last summer, I worked with Republicans in Congress to cut $1 trillion in spending.”
The Washington Post’s The Fact Checker debunked this claim, once again, writing:
But, while the numbers seem large, the results are unimpressive. At the end of the 10-year budget window, Obama would have the national debt at a 76.5 percent of gross domestic product. That actually would be an increase over the 74.2 percent of GDP in this year. In contrast, the debt reduction plan envisioned by the Simpson-Bowles commission — cited by the president — would reduce the debt-to-GDP ratio close to 60 percent.
Moreover, independent analysts have criticized the administration for claiming some $800 billion in phantom savings from winding down the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, even though the administration had long made clear those wars would end. (The Bush administration had started the wars on borrowed funds.) Then, the president proposes to spend a good chunk of the nonexistent money on other spending — as he put it in his speech, “rebuilding roads and bridges; schools and runways.”
The $1 trillion in savings negotiated with Republicans, mentioned by the president, actually accounts for the bulk of his proposed reduction in spending. Indeed, much of the president’s debt reduction would come from tax increases on the wealthy, not spending cuts.
5) The final lie comes, again, from Biden. During his speech, he contended that “the experts” claim that Romney has a corporate tax plan that would create hundreds of thousands — 800,000 jobs, to be exact — overseas. In reality, only one expert asserted that this is the case and she was careful to say that it depends on the details.
Even if these jobs do grow in other countries, she said it was possible for that to happen without hampering U.S. employment. FactCheck.org explains:
She notes in her study that “jobs abroad need not displace jobs at home” — that is, provided that the present economy improves, and U.S. unemployment drops to a low level. So depending on the economic circumstances, creating jobs overseas doesn’t necessarily mean losing jobs in the U.S., as Biden’s listeners might have assumed.
Furthermore, a critique of Clausing’s figure by the Tax Foundation (a group supported in part by corporate donations) says that she based it on current corporate tax rates — not on the lower 25 percent rate that Romney proposes. The lower rate, it is argued, would attract foreign investment and lead to importing jobs.
There you have it. Five of the lies that were told during Thursday’s closing speeches at the DNC. What do you think about these claims? Let us know in the comments section, below.
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Comments (221)
pirate052
Sep. 7, 2012 at 11:07amMore lies, more lies, it is unbelievable how many people believe those two idiots when they speak.
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mersey
Sep. 7, 2012 at 12:13pmAnd on a different note, the Democrats reward child pornography and sex abuser.
“Gary Glitter could be set for a royalty windfall after his track ‘Rock And Roll Part 2′ was played at the Democratic National Convention.
Glitter, whose real name is Paul Gadd, was convicted in 1999 of possession of child pornography and served four months in prison. After his release, he relocated to Vietnam, where he was subsequently convicted of a string of child sexual abuse offences.”
muffythetuffy
Sep. 7, 2012 at 12:55pmOBAMA MUST BE IMPRISONED FOR HIGH TREASON
At the Romney Inauguration Obama must be placed under arrest by US Marines. We cannot put Biden under arrest just for being our first alcoholic VP. Obama must pay for what he has done and all the laws he has violated.
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ambrosia
Sep. 7, 2012 at 1:39pmEastwood’s AND America’s Sweet Revenge…in his OWN words:
http://www.pineconearchive.com/120907-1.html
Don’t stop now Clint, America & Romney STILL need you
to help get us across the finish line……more, more, MORE !
eagledown
Sep. 7, 2012 at 2:12pmThe only lie I need to keep tabs on is in the White House. When this lie/fraud is removed, so will the rest.
But, this all a matter of perspective isn’t it, from the point of view of a Marxist Dictator who uses obfuscation as his tool, these are truths.
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Gold Coin & Economic News
Sep. 7, 2012 at 3:59pmDid anyone here hear the part of Obama’s speech where he said “and the kind of bold, persistent experimentation that Franklin Roosevelt pursued during the only crisis worse than this one”?
Did you hear that “bold, persistent experimentation” quote? Experimentation on the economy. I’m surprised no one is talking about that quote here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QecoDSOHkbk
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Goodforall
Sep. 7, 2012 at 3:59pmThey have nothing else. He is by far the worst president in our history and has done more to damage our economy and reduce us to third world nation status. Just imaging what he could do with four more years. God help us if that happens!
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BlessedGirls2
Sep. 7, 2012 at 6:23pmIdiots ..I missed romney and ryan last night…darn!
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PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Sep. 7, 2012 at 7:24pmCDR Kerchner’s Blog: Sheriff Joe’s lead investigator just back from 2nd trip to Hawaii; only pResident ever to have 3 aliases – new interview. at http://www.Gulagbound.com…scroll down to lower right of screen find under: Key Links in our Chain. It is in 4 parts and about an hour long video. At the end it concludes that O is a foreign plant and a subversive operation is being committed as a silent coup and the US gvmt is being overthrown. The highest levels are complicit or cowards and it has been decades in the making. Another thing i did not know, when O was a jr sen. he traveled to Russia with sen. Luger and O was detained by the Russians as a possible british spy. they can’t take the info the justice or fbi or congress….it’s so hot no one will touch it. Also, the repubs think they can beat him without putting him in chains and they did not want to run against hill c. The whole thing is amazing, frightening and wow…it all makes sense now. Hope i can sleep tonight.
Marine25
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:12pm@muffy
What laws would those be?
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VoteBushIn12
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:15pmIt speaks for itself:
Mitt Romney lies more than Obama
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mitt-romney/
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/
And the GOP keeps fewer promises than Obama
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/gop-pledge-o-meter/
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/
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mike1127
Sep. 8, 2012 at 12:19amDo you know how to tell when Obama is lying? When he is talking to the voters. He broke every single one of his last campaign’s promises. Why should anyone think he will keep these? Obama is our Liar-in-Chief, nothing more.
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strewth_cobber
Sep. 8, 2012 at 12:24amHe seemed to find it amusing to mock the bible, re his words about Deuteronomy and Leviticus in 2008. Why would he and his cronies ever honour Exodus 20:16?
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RSHLUVER
Sep. 8, 2012 at 1:37amThey only found 5?
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Niruba
Sep. 10, 2012 at 7:54amObama’s first lie each day is “good morning America”. But if he didn’t lie he’d have to drop out of the job market which would allow the honest working man a chance.
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Ilovenh1
Sep. 14, 2012 at 12:56pm“You can’t convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it’s based on a deep seated need to believe”
Carl Sagan
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blackbean
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:59amMarxist/liberal/progressives don’t let facts get in the way when telling a story. Tell it often and maybe the public will be gullible enough to believe them. They must think we still get our info from TV’s made in the 50′s instead of from instant internet. Empty rhetoric from an empty suit sitting on an empty chair.
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BlessedGirls2
Sep. 7, 2012 at 6:24pmAdd your comments
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Texas.7
Sep. 7, 2012 at 6:39pmThe Dem convention may have been their best gift to the Republicans since “You didn’t build that!”
I love moments of truth, which cut through the lies. Joe the Plumber in 2008 was such a moment, when we heard the president say what he meant. “You didn’t build that” was such a moment.
- Voting God out of the platform three times (and if you ask me, the nays had it!) was such a moment, revealing the hearts of at least half the attendees.
- The twitter storm over the cardinal’s prayer was such a moment for the hateful Godless.
- And there was no short supply of video footage which showed hate, ignorance, greed and extremist activities.
To any sitting on the fence: There you have it. There has never been a clearer contrast as was seen through a comparison of the two conventions. America is in trouble, and there is only one choice. And ignorance will no longer be an excuse.
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moonbat666
Sep. 8, 2012 at 3:04amBlackbean
Just wondering, how exactly can ANYTHING sit on an EMPTY CHAIR?
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bplumb23
Sep. 10, 2012 at 6:02pmNot even remotely true. Come on, we can do better than this. There good arguments to be made, and good reasons to complain, stop this nonsense.
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Wango
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:50amWe’re not going to let our campaign be run by fact checkers.
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WindyDualism
Sep. 7, 2012 at 11:00amOnly your vote can change the weather WangDang, only yours.
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AvengerK
Sep. 7, 2012 at 12:14pmAnother unsourced quote WHACKO? You’re still trying to play “gotcha’ by quoting a Romney campaign advisor and using it as bait so you can play your juvenile games? You’re quite pathetic.
I’m going to give you an unsourced quote now…
“Today I am pledging to cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office.” Feb. 23, 2009. …LOL.
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DarkJello
Sep. 7, 2012 at 3:51pmWango, wango, wango. [smiles]
I lit a candle for you. Turn to the light.
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bplumb23
Sep. 10, 2012 at 6:04pmSure, no problem:
After it was noted that myriad fact checking organizations had found the ad false, Newhouse stated, “we’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers.”
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/president-obama-quotes-romney-pollster-dismissing-fact-checkers/
We are BETTER than this GOP. Can we finally unite??
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TwoHipFourWords
Sep. 16, 2012 at 12:06pmI was wondering if there were any posters who disagree with the majority here. I think fact checkers are important. To not want fact checkers means that person is poised to lie.
There are differences between members of the Republican party. It s a popular belief that moderate republicans have been shunned by the Tea Party. Their party would be stronger if the persons in their party were more harmonious. But, therein lies the conundrum. The Tea Party members seem to be inflexible, so in order to get along, one must go along.
That plan is creating a group of people about to have to go at it alone, otherwise, they might find more in common with democrats.
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:09amWhat the heck is factcheck looking at? National debt is NOT 74.2% of GDP.
US GDP was just over 15TR in 2011 and is on pace to come in somewhere around 15.5TR this year. Our national debt just hit 16Tr. I’ll have to recheck my calculations, but I’m pretty sure that’s over 100%.
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JRook
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:26am“There you have it” Another episode of taking things out of context, misrepresenting and presenting selective facts to support claims that a speaker is taking something out of context or misrepresenting the facts. How can you possibly discuss the PRESIDENT’s deficit reductions without mentioning that the Ryan budget plan does not attain a balanced budget til 2040. So why not actually do some real work and calculate what the federal deficit would be after 28 more years of annual deficits. And by the way you really need to find another motto. You have little truth, you have only an agenda. And GB saying you are not partisan is not one of your little truth’s. But then again billy is one of those people who would actually try and defend Fox as being fair and balanced. LOL.
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WindyDualism
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:43amPot meet kettle. Rookie, you are laughable at best, sheerly mocked at worst. You actually believe your own crap, that is almost sad, if the laughing would cease. Blather blather blather, I am standing by a Marxist pos no matter what. Couch it in super special crap, still crap.
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Max jones
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:57amJROOK…..I am partisan, and the reason for this is, I see evil in nearly everything “liberal”. I see evil in our abortion laws. I see evil in forced redistribution. I see evil in our treatment of our allies. I see evil in our enslavement of blacks to the entitlement machine. I see evil in the weakening of our military. I see evil in the “normalization” of deviant sex practices. I see evil in rewriting our history books to indoctrinate our kids. I see evil in unjust enforcement of racial aggression. I see evil in illegal immigration for voting advantage.
To be against these things is righteous.
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JRGJR
Sep. 7, 2012 at 11:42amMax Jones
Amen to that.
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TEIN
Sep. 7, 2012 at 11:56am@JRook… so the same fact check that was accurate for the RNC, is now invalid for the DNC???
BTW how was the summer reeducation camp???
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jeffile
Sep. 7, 2012 at 12:11pmThere you have it. Another poster defending the presidents ineptitude by comparing him to another. You don’t justify someone’s ineptitude because someone else’s is as bad. That’s like justifying the failure of your son’s school test because your daughter failed hers.
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AvengerK
Sep. 7, 2012 at 12:18pmJCROOK…who said this?
“Today I am pledging to cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office.”- Feb 23, 2009.
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Sep. 7, 2012 at 1:14pmJRook,
I have. I’ve posted it numerous times. It adds 18Tr. dollars until it balances the budget in 2042.
I’ve never defended the Romney economic plan other than to say that it drives us off the cliff at a slower speed than your idiot Kenyan idol’s plan does.
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gwm
Sep. 7, 2012 at 6:34pm@jrook you are an imbecile, note the big picture. we want to cut spending, they want to continue spending. i hope that helps you understand.
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januscatinhat
Sep. 7, 2012 at 11:01pmOkay, let’s just revamp Washington, take over, and it must time for the “girls” to step up, but just those “called” to the job. This is a job of serious tasking for the people, not the all boy’s club it always has been. The boys have misbehaved badly, felt only war can bring profit to their pockets, and what about the “other stuff”? A few good women with service to duty can do very nicely it does seem. Not sure who they are–bet we don’t know them yet–but, yes, now is a good time.
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pudssweetie
Sep. 8, 2012 at 12:16pmThe US GDP as of right now is $15.3T. Gross Debt to GDP Ratio is 104.3%, Revenue to GDP Ratio is 32.5% and Spending to GDP Ratio is 43.0%. Here is a link the Nation Debt Clock;
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
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republic2011
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:07amthe only thing that amazes me is that they only found these few lies. Every time the POTUS and VP open their mouths, they are lying.
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oneshiner
Sep. 7, 2012 at 11:03amCan’t prove what they say, but the few times I turned it on (then off) all I heard were distortions if not out and out lies. I’m sure if Fact Check printed all the lies there would be hundreds because that all they did, lie & blame or distort so badly you wouldn’t recognize it.
Tried to be a good citizen and watch, but couldn’t take the finger pointing Biden is so good at. The most troubling was the Kennedy girl swallowing this bunk, hook, line & sinker (unless she was lying.)
(Believe me: LV Pawn Stars was far more interesting and fun than the lies on the DNC)
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Rillobymorning
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:02amI’m with Hannity on this one. In his words, it was the “Re-invention, smear, slander and lie convention. I just couldn’t watch it for fear I’d have to chew my arm off, in doing so.
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Bluebonnet
Sep. 7, 2012 at 1:19pmGood analogy. Described how I felt having to listen to parts of that flip-flopper dullard Kerry, the idiocy of the VP, all talk and nothing of substance (lies, distortions?) and not the least of them, obama, Wow, what a bunch of nothing. same ‘ole, same ‘ole, (point bony fingers.O that was Bill.)
My guess is, he’s going to fake an illness and drop out of the race so Hillary can run in his place, which explains why Bill was so flowing in his speech (if you believe that) everything he said could have been taken two ways, good or bad, for or against…….I caught it, anyway. The bow to obama was condescending or mocking. Hmmm
I think obama lost his sparkle and can only repeat what he said in his last run for office. He knows he’s incompetent and a failure and wants to go hide and suck his thumb. Why else did he & Mz spend our money like crazy having the time of their lives? What’s the old saying: Your end is near?
Clint Eastwood was right on: It’s an empty suit. Clint was just embarrassed having to point it out.
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goengo
Sep. 8, 2012 at 6:45pm@BLUE BONNET
I don’t believe that Obama has failed. I believe that he has been extremely effective in doing what he set out to do. Remember that his agenda was to downgrade the American economy,bring poverty and dependence on the government, lessen America’s status in the world, lessen our use of fossil fuels (even if the sun and wind provide no usable energy), remove all religion from the country, thereby eliminating charities and normalizing gay lifestyles and the aborting of full-term babies, and turn us into a third-world nation. He is shutting down coal plants, with nothing to take its place. By the end of his second term, he will have us more economically deprived than his beloved Kenya, or his second home of Indonesia.
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geo01
Sep. 7, 2012 at 9:52am.
The problem we have in America . . .
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Is that THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEED TO KNOW THIS . . .
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Are smothered with disinformation or lack of information from a press that knows no bounds in hiding the truth.
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DOES THIS LIBERAL PRESS NOT KNOW…..that if our Democracy fails . . .
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THEY WILL ALL BE OUT OF A JOB?????????????????????
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marybethelizabeth
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:00amThe press is unbiased for the most part.
Most of the stories copied by theblaze are from the main stream media.
Rush Limbaugh used to joke about how the main stream media was biased right before he read a story from the main stream media. That’s funny, It is a jokes. But it’s not the truth.
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geo01
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:23am.
Thank you for your opinion.
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You are correct. The mainstream media is where they (the Blaze and others) get the information to show just how biased the so called “mainstream’ media is.
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Those that believe everything that the so called “mainstream” media reports . . . are those that have been dumbed down by that same media.
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Max jones
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:30amDOES THIS LIBERAL PRESS NOT KNOW…..that if our Democracy fails . . .
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THEY WILL ALL BE OUT OF A JOB????……..I think they’re in training right now to move right into the new govt. sex industry. Once a whore…….
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WindyDualism
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:48amMbe
What is the coolest Marxist business model? Share some of your insight. Come on MBA/MBE. Why do you have to hold back-show us. You can change the weather with your vote, but you won’t share your insight? Shame, shame.
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Stone Cold Truth
Sep. 7, 2012 at 12:45pmNo, Mary. Not most. Some. Most THINK they’re unbiased, but being around pro Marxist piers, teachers, and bosses one cannot help but reflect the beliefs they subscribe to. True unbiased media coverage is random and rare. Rush can’t possibly boycott all news or he wouldn’t have anything to talk about. It’s news analysis.
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walkintruth
Sep. 7, 2012 at 3:24pmThe press is to blame for the ignorance of the people. The difference between the right and left is that some of the people on the right will listen to what the left is saying and will fact check it. I am listening to both sides and then I make a decision based on what will be the best for our country. The left doesn’t care to listen to the other side. They vote for their party no matter what. Wonder how many people from the left actually heard anything from the RNC?
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marybethelizabeth
Sep. 7, 2012 at 3:26pmGE001, if the stories from the mainstream media are only believed by the dumbed down, and you believe what theblaze copies, then you must be dumbed down.
You Birchers and neo nationalist fifth column adherents make no sense.
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hifi74
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:23pmNeo nationalist, this coming from someone who supports a party and president that openly touts and lauds socialist ideas and is the cornerstone of the NAZI party. See this is what I don’t get form people like you, you spew this inanity across my screen and try to call it logical discourse. I can assure you it is not logical discourse. It is about 7 shades of crazy and stupid, and is indicative of this entire presidency and administration. You are the perfect sheep for the Hypocrat party because you are too stupid to even realize it.
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pudssweetie
Sep. 8, 2012 at 1:28pmMarybethelizabeth, Back in Oct. of 2009, Anita Dunn during an interview said “The Obama campaign controlled the spin and “worked” the Mainstream Media. Whoever controls the media controls the masses and the spin like true totalitarians”. Obama’s campaign may have started controlling the Media for his 2008 election but never stopped and is still controlled to this day.
Here is the link to Anita Dunn’s interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlGNhAnwp_Y&feature=related
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bplumb23
Sep. 10, 2012 at 6:10pmwalkintruth
Posted on September 7, 2012 at 3:24pm
“The press is to blame for the ignorance of the people. ”
No – hogwash. The people are to blame. And too many of our friends and family encourage and propogate that ignorance with nonsense. We can only cure this with education and blaming the media and universities and such is only hurting our cause.
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MBA
Sep. 7, 2012 at 9:45amFile photo: dumb and dumber. The liberals in this country should be so proud. NOT!
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calebjim
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:02amIf I were not ambitious and dedicated to working for what I get and what I have, I would be a Democrat (Liberal). They think that the feds should dictate what I do and what I have. The Democratic “Socialist” Party convention was a side show displaying the clowns of the party. It was a basic popularity contest. Most of what was said was not true. To be blunt a LIE!
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ThoughtCzar
Sep. 7, 2012 at 9:35amMore wealth envy from the left.
For the most part their base has learned they can vote themselves a piece of the treasury via the D party. One day which will never come, I’d like to see one of the lefty 1%ers take no tax deductions and double, no triple their tax bill – there is no law, nothing stopping them from doing this but you’ll never see it. Limosine lefties – the worst.
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marybethelizabeth
Sep. 7, 2012 at 9:55amVP Biden quoted Mitt Romney saying he didn’t think the elimination of Osama Bin Laden was an important strategy. How is that wealth envy?
Hating on America is for losers
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Max jones
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:35ammarywhatever…Well now that made a lot of sense, girl…I counter that by saying …We put men on the moon that means you are quite intelligent.
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WindyDualism
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:58amMbe/loser
As a purported female, how did it feel when Valerie let 0 shoot OBL? In that über huge tent you guys have, what is Cair’s stance on glitter bombing from the lgblt crowd? What? You stand for Marxism? Huh? Speak up mbe, you are fading. You do know that “speach” will now be on a loop at gitmo? Wait, was gitmo another broken promise? You enjoy Marxist lies over standard lies?
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AvengerK
Sep. 7, 2012 at 12:20pmHAIRYBETH…killing OBL isn’t a strategy. Capturing and interrogating him is a strategy, like we did to KSM from whom we found out about the courier that eventually led us to OBL. Is this lost on you sweetie?
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Stone Cold Truth
Sep. 7, 2012 at 12:54pmHe didn’t say it wasn’t important. He said that killing Bin Laden or any other single person is not going solve the Islamic terrorism problem. Like Hydra, another head grows in place of the last, so we must also stay focused on the long term problem of jihadi terrorism. President Obama didn’t do anything special to catch bin Laden. It wasn’t his savvy new plans that suddenly made that happen. It was years of intelligence spanning almost a decade. Mit Romney or almost anyone else would’ve given the same order in that position.
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Stone Cold Truth
Sep. 7, 2012 at 1:02pmHating on America is bad, Mary. That’s why we don’t like you OWS/commie types. Stop pretending you liked America before leftists took over. The only reason you like America now is because you think you guys are going to change it into something completely different than what it’s been.
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marybethelizabeth
Sep. 7, 2012 at 3:16pmFocus Stonecoldtruth.
This story is about lies.
What Joe Biden said isn’t a lie.
You are right though about Osama Bin Laden. They should have captured him. I wrote that in a longer post, proving that 5 points are true, that theblaze never posted. Cutting off the head,ie Killing Osama Bin Laden, IS a strategy, and hasn’t worked so far.
These are not LIES.
Double Speak is a brain washing tool that Mr. Beck has used effectively.
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moonbat666
Sep. 8, 2012 at 3:14amWhy would anyone want to triple their taxes to support stupid things like wars to benefit Haliburton etal?
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goengo
Sep. 8, 2012 at 7:05pmOh, Marybeth, Marybeth, when will you ever learn?
Your comments, I realize, are only meant to inflame and anger others. Does it make YOU angry when you are answered with reason? And you are correct that the issue here is the lies of the Democratic Party. Speaking of lies, didn’t you state that you wrote a post proving all 5 examples to be true. But, oh yes, somehow, you posted this info right here on the Blaze, in this category, but somehow it mysteriously did not appear. Funny, all my posts show up…..
Throughout the convention, almost everyone spoke about “birth control.” But you know that they are speaking quite literally (to quote Joe Biden). They aren’t talking aout the birth control pill here. They are using the term to refer to abortion – to stop BIRTH, not conception. But no…they never lie!
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AnAmerican111
Sep. 7, 2012 at 9:30amLiberals Lie! Americans with Intelligence understand that!
It’s the rest of the pathetic morons who can’t grasp much of anything except a hand out!
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marybethelizabeth
Sep. 7, 2012 at 9:36amMr Beck is trying to redefine the word lie.
We can debate the merits of each of the 5 points but there is nothing untrue about any of them.
Hating on the President and America is for losers.
America’s going to win.
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Max jones
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:43amMarybets…..as long as there are people, like yourself, whose naivety has been cultured and trained, the U.S. will never come back from the long slide the progressives have started. The really sinister thing is you don’t know they are using you, and others like you…for evil.
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WindyDualism
Sep. 7, 2012 at 11:09amMBE
Where are the new talking points coming from? We have a dictator and regime. Who feeds you that crap? I still really want to hear about your best case Marxist business model… All ears, no offense to your idol.
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The_Jerk
Sep. 7, 2012 at 9:04amThey’re all liars. What’s the real news here?
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WindyDualism
Sep. 7, 2012 at 11:04amNone were jewish? That should be noteworthy in your world. Shalom.
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Max jones
Sep. 7, 2012 at 11:33amYeah, but they were probably ALL zionists………..
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Centralsville
Sep. 7, 2012 at 9:02amU.S. national debt, 140,000 dollars per taxpayer. Total debt, 683,000 dollars per family. Stick a fork in us, we are finished.
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bigbear_awake
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:59amhttp://visiontoamerica.com/12050/gallup-sued-by-doj-over-unfavorable-poll-numbers-for-obama/
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PA PATRIOT
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:58amThe Orioles beat the Yankees 10 to 6 in an awesome home run derby last night at Camden Yards bringing the AL East to a virtual dead heat with the two teams. The Orioles and Yankees share a record of 77 wins 60 losses each.
The Yankees managed a 5 run inning in the top of the 8th to tie the game at 6 However the hard hitting O’s came roaring back in the bottom with home runs from Jones,Andino and Reynolds to blow the game apart and secure the win. Mark Reynolds had two of Baltimore’s season-high six home runs. The Oriioles, who have won 10 of 13 — a run that includes three of four over New York. The Yanks and O’s square off again tonight at Camden Yards in the second of a four game stand in Baltimore.
How was the speech?
I thought so.
WTP
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bigbear_awake
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:52amneed a pdf file of ALL the UNTRUTHS from DNC
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dave88
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:48amI think if you covered all the lies democrats told at the convention they would have to expand the internet.
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Detroit paperboy
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:43amI’ll tell you the biggest truth about the DNC,,,,,,that was the largest gathering of **** ugly people I have ever seen……….is that the root of their anger ?
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Chromo200
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:39amUntil Obama gets rid of his Czars, and those extreme socialists in the WH, comes forth with his grades and college applications, access to the birth certificate, fires Holder , and the list goes on, I am not going to trust him.
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progressiveslayer
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:35amI like the pic of the Marxist mulatto in chief and his drunk lap dog,a pair of frauds destroying our republic.
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themachinist239
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:27amWhy was the mention of skin color even necessary?
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themachinist239
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:29amWas mentioning his skin color necessary? Why is it even relevant?
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progressiveslayer
Sep. 7, 2012 at 11:10amWhy are you repeating your question? I’m stating a fact Barry is a Marxist mulatto POS.
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themachinist239
Sep. 7, 2012 at 11:36amDouble posted on accident. Yes, I can read that you’re stating his skin color, I’m asking why.
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progressiveslayer
Sep. 7, 2012 at 2:06pmAs a public service to set the record straight,he’s a mulatto he isn’t black or white he’s both..He isn’t a natural born citizen either which makes him ineligible to be POTUS but since we haven’t followed the constitution for roughly a century it doesn’t matter in his case either.
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Max jones
Sep. 7, 2012 at 2:20pmThe word in hebrew is “mamzar” It means half-breed. Not to be trusted with high office.
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SadVietNamVet
Sep. 8, 2012 at 3:26amYou are actually the POS. If you are so stupid as to think this country could elect a non citizen as President then you probably have alot of other irrational thoughts.That’s what happens when you are manipulated by hate mongering radio hosts and radical websites.
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SadVietNamVet
Sep. 8, 2012 at 3:37amSir I must point out your statements are not true. Obama is a natural born citizen or he could not be The President. You are being disrespectful by calling him mulatto. Does that make you feel superior?
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goengo
Sep. 8, 2012 at 7:18pm@MACHINIST:
I don’t much care for PROGRESSIVE SLAYERS wording either. But the fact is, that nearly 100% of Blacks in America voted for Obama. Most of those that answered polls right after voting (of all races)cited the fact that Obama is black as the number one reason for voting for him. While race may not have been relevent in the post above, the fact that he is black is a relevent issue in this race, just as it was (at least for some) in 2008. And, I regret to correct you, but mulatto is the dictionary-correct term for a child that is the offspring of one white person and one black person. Not everything you see is intended as a slur. That being said, I do not know what was in PROGRESSIVE SLAYERS mind, so I cannot speak as to his intentions.
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progressiveslayer
Sep. 9, 2012 at 10:35am@SADVIETNAMVET A natural born citizen is one born of two U.S citizens,Barry’s father was a British subject thereby making Barry ineligible for POTUS,don’t believe me read the supreme court case.
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/us-supreme-court-precedent-states-that-obama-is-not-eligible-to-be-president/
As to disrespecting the POS BHO or Barry Soetoro or whatever name he has used over the years I feel it’s my duty to disrespect this fraud POS because his office is being held illegally.
If you’re naive enough to believe this government and this POS fraud masquerading as a president doesn’t have bad intentions for it’s citizens that’s your problem.
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bplumb23
Sep. 10, 2012 at 6:17pmThis nonsense is what will cost us the election.
Policy answers instead of angry racism. Put this birther crap in check and focus on real failures and we can win. This nonsense makes smart Republicans look stupid.
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Edohiguma
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:35amJoe Biden, biggest circus clown on the planet. I’m not American, but when Biden basically said the Osama raid was the most audacious operation in 500 years… I wanted to hop on a plane, hunt him down and beat him with a toilet seat. I mean, how can anyone with a sane mind put someone like him up as VP? How can a country have a VP who fully embodies every single anti-American prejudice of how Americans are ignorant, arrogant and stupid?
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kickagrandma
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:50amThank you for your comments. I AM AN AMERICAN and I approve your message!!!
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bigbear_awake
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:56amjob security for the muslim
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Tractorboy
Sep. 7, 2012 at 9:31amDid anbody notice the little red mark on Bidens forhead? my wife and I were wondering if they gave Old Joe a fresh Labotomy before the puppet masters sent him out on stage.
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calebjim
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:05amA fool usually surrounds himself with other fools.
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Max jones
Sep. 7, 2012 at 11:28amHere’s Max’s dumb conspiracy for today….Bin laden is NOT dead….The Seal books and the hooplah are nothing but lies…..Osama was not killed. He is being readied to assume the grand Caliphate. He will be presented as being resurrected, just like Jesus Christ.
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EqualJustice
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:33amHow were the numbers? I don’t know anyone who watched. No one wanted to hear the used car salesman PUSH the clunker on them… AGAIN!
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Cemoto78
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:46am368,000 dropped out of workforce
96,000 jobs created
8.1% unemployment
whats the under employment figure?
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SadVietNamVet
Sep. 8, 2012 at 11:05amYou are facing four more years of misery sir. My question is how much more hatred can you spew? I am ashamed of this country because of you right wing hate mongering truth be damned hypocrites.
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goengo
Sep. 8, 2012 at 7:34pmI watched the DNC…and the RNC…every bit of both. Yes, it was painful, but not nearly as painful as the injury that had me bedridden with nothing to do but watch the news for day after day after day. The Democrats there loved all the speeches, but hated having “God” and “Jerusalem” put BACK in the platform after the Dems had removed it. They actually booed when it was put back in, which required a 2/3 majority. I’m not even sure if they had a SIMPLE majority, but they deemed it passed anyway.
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Vegasdad702
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:30amAHHH! Im so glad the circus is finally OVER!! It was painful to watch, but really sounded much like the RNC. Lots of big talk NO specifics. The dems are infinitely living in a dream world, but I can say the one thing I did enjoy about the event was watching Gabby Giffords say the “Pledge of Allegiance”. That was the ONLY thing worth watching. Im voting for Gary Johnson. Oh and don’t tell me its a vote for Obama, because the Dems are whining on their threads that its a vote for Romney. NO its a vote for PRINCIPLE and I wont have ANYTHING to do with any party that does what they do to the delegates on the floor like we witnessed at both the RNC and the DNC! A vote for liberty is honorable. Thank you and good day!
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woodyee
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:39am“Im voting for Gary Johnson. Oh and don’t tell me its a vote for Obama, because the Dems are whining on their threads that its a vote for Romney.”
VegasDad, does the name Ross Perot ring any bells? The Lefties WILL vote for Gaybama – mob-mentality is a well-defined DemonicRat trait. Your vote for Johnson WILL be lost ot Gaybama.
“NO its a vote for PRINCIPLE” – see McCain/Palin 2008.
RepubliCorp
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:46amWho cares??? Vote for the fool and waste your time
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Redsbengalsbucks
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:47amWell it might not be a vote for Obama, but it sure is a vote against Romney. Do you really think that voting for a candidate with no hope of changing anything is better than voting against what Obama has done to this country? Please help get the progressive/socialist out of office. Make your stand in the primaries, not when you vote hurts others.
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Vegasdad702
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:59amI was on board until this happened-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKaXqoC4DjE
You have no clue how many Tea party votes and Freedomworks people left the party over this. You go ahead and tell yourself whatever you want to justify your vote. Me i’d rather stand for something than vote against someone. I will not trade one tyrant for another! God Bless and Good day sirs. :) :)
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Vegasdad702
Sep. 7, 2012 at 9:22amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKaXqoC4DjE
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RightThinking1
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:11amWoodeye:
You seem to be under the impression that the election is a referendum regarding your personal philosophy. It isn’t. The election is about who is going to be President. There are two choices: Obama or Romney. That’s it. If you want to sit it out, then vote as you have indicated, because your vote will be meaningless, except in your own head.
I certainly heard the same thing from friends voting for Perot. The phrase then was “vote your conscience”, or some such.THAT is a rationalization that begs reality. The election was not about people’s ‘conscience’, it was about who was going to be President. The result was that Clinton won with 39% of the popular vote. A disaster for which have paid dearly, and will never completely overcome.
The situation now is much, much, more critical. Sure, go ahead, allow your ego to compel you to vote for Johnson. Justify it as ‘doing the right thing’, ‘refusing to vote for the lesser of two evils’, etc., etc., but at the end of the day, your self-satisfaction may well contribute to the collapse of a secure Republic.
I think you should ask yourself if this is the way you make decisions that affect your family. Would you insist on buying a Chevy (pick your brand) on *principle* even if you knew that it would never run. Would you insist on buying a solid brick house (on principle), even if the foundation was inadequate?
To reiterate, I admire those with strong principles, but they should not be blind to a
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Sep. 7, 2012 at 10:58amVegasdad: Your ignorance is overwhelming. You would cut off your nose to spite your face. If you have any sense of dignity and love for this country, or for that matter, if you at least have one functioning neuron left in your head, you will do whatever you can to get the socialist pigs out of the whitehouse. Your vote for anyone other than Romney/Ryan is a vote for the destruction of this country. Pull your head out brother and smell the fresh air. Your vote for Johnson is a vote to send the greatest country this earth has ever seen straight to h e l l.
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Max jones
Sep. 7, 2012 at 11:07amVegasdad….You are being obtuse…….wasted vote. but your pride will be intact.
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gwm
Sep. 7, 2012 at 6:48pmjust another blowhard wasting a vote
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gwm
Sep. 7, 2012 at 7:10pmi looked at clip. true it is a travesty, but someone has to trample these RINO’s and you can’t trample someone if your not in the tent.
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gwm
Sep. 7, 2012 at 7:20pmthe speaker Baaanor is a RINO and should be trampled, but first things first. now is the time to get rid of Obomo, then we can concentrate on trampling those stinking RINO’s
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Vegasdad702
Sep. 8, 2012 at 2:17amHow, by putting MORE PROGRESSIVE RINO’s in power???? You ALL a guilty of the arrogant pride, and foolish wasted votes you accuse me of. Look I have dedicated years, and YEARS to the republican party. I ignored my fellow Libertarians and Republican friends who begged me to compare Obama/Bush/Romney/Ryan voting records, and how they were SO VERY much the SAME. I did the homework that Mr. Beck asked of his audience. I read the words of our founders for many, MANY years now. I am CERTAIN who THEY would cast their vote for. How many of you called Romney a Neocon or Progressive, and supported ANYBODY but Romney during the primaries? 90% of you did. And yet now even after standing against the PROGRESSIVES you would belittle me for not selling out and voting for one?? REALLY?? With all due respect gentlemen I TRIED very hard to stand for the lesser of two evils as described, even when I knew in my heart that I could NOT defend Romney and his record. I voted for Mccain, and even Mr. Beck said Mccain would have been worse than Obama. WHY? Because hes a PROGRESSIVE! Stand for something, or fall for the same game you CLAIM to know and understand. You can spit on me, but I CHOOSE to STAND with PRINCIPLES and not be led like sheeple to the slaughter. Your hypocrites to call me names and in your hearts YOU KNOW IT! If you watched the clip I posted and can TRULEY in your heart still vote for our corrupt and lost party, then you are no different then the Progressive democrats from the left!!
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Vegasdad702
Sep. 8, 2012 at 2:18am“Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say ‘what should be the reward of such sacrifices?’ Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”- Samuel Adams
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bplumb23
Sep. 10, 2012 at 6:21pmYeah, and we have to be hateful spiteful bigotted people just to not be called RINO and thrown from our own party because we believe the words of the Constitution and Bible that have been corrupted and abused by some wackos who claim to be from our own party?
Driving the wedge in our own party doesn’t defeat the opposing one, get a brain.
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starman70
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:28amONLY 5 BIG LIES? They must be improving.
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starman70
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Big South
Sep. 7, 2012 at 4:52pmFools All !
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huey6367
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:23amThe entire convention was one big lie
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kickagrandma
Sep. 7, 2012 at 8:51amIndeed it was!
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