Most Churchgoers Do Not Read the Bible on a Daily Basis, Study Says
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Most churchgoers do not read the Bible on a daily basis, according to a study on Bible engagement released Thursday by a Christian research organization.
The Transformational Discipleship study, conducted by LifeWay Research, surveyed 2,390 U.S. Protestants who said they attend church at least once a month, according to the Christian Post.
According to the results, 19 percent of respondents said they read the Bible outside of church services “every day,” nearly identical to the 18 percent who answered “rarely or never.”
Slightly more than a quarter said they read the Bible “a few times a week,” while 14 percent said once a week and 22 percent said at least once a month.
LifeWay Research Director Scott McConnell told the Christian Post he attributes the results to modern American culture.
“Regular Bible engagement is both personal and requires discipline. Neither are popular in Western culture today,” McConnell told the Post. “Too many churchgoers want the benefits of salvation without investing in personally knowing Christ and the abundant life he offers.”
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michael from Ga.
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:05pmMs. Madeleine Morgenstern; have You ever read the Bible?
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Max jones
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:25pmI know that is true…. we call them “pew potatoes”. You know- once saved, always saved. You don’t have to understand the bible, just listen to the sermon, leave 20.00 in the basket, Ignore the book of Revelation, You’re gonna get flown out of here anyway. Usually have kids that can’t tell right from wrong, or care either way. Don’t know that caine is the offspring of satan, and his offspring are everywhere you go. You know, regular ol’ folk.
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alinmatt
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:31pmVery few have actually read the Bible, in my experience. It would do the world a load of good if people actually started to.
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alinmatt
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:44pmI should add some sarcasm to my last post. I try desperately to keep away from the comment section on here, (because of harvest) but I can’t seem to help myself. I have spent 95% of my life believing in a book that I had never fully read. Please people, for the love of your god, read the damn book.
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Ming The Merciless
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:45pm@ Max Jones – last I checked in the bible – Cain was the offspring of Adam & Eve – not Satan.
Adam and Eve chose Satan’s way over God’s way. They were cast out of the garden and we have sin in our world as a result of their action in the garden. What Cain did to his brother was a manifestation of sin – not that Satan/Lucifer had offspring. That’s silly dude.
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Max jones
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 5:13pmMing, this what is meant by understanding, rightly dividing. Caine has no mention in Adam’s geneology. Look for it. It is not there. Means Caine was not Adam’s son.
Caine and Abel were twins….Adam was Abel’s father- satan was Caine’s, For Eve was “seduced”.
Caine’s offspring are the ‘tares’ Jesus told us about. A Strong’s concordance is useful, to rightly divide the Word.
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alinmatt
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 5:23pmHas it ever occurred to any of you guys, that if you have to go through Olympic gymnastics in reasoning to explain the Bible, that perhaps, just maybe, it’s wrong. Read it in the light of reality and you’ll find yourselves amazed.
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Sirfoldallot
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 6:15pmI have it on E-book, ty.
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SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 6:16pmGenesis 4 Adam made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, “With the help of the Lord I have brought forth a man.” 2 Later she gave birth to his brother Abel.
Serpent Seed doctrine is of Arnold Murray and is not biblical in any sense of the word. Arnold Murray also states that somehow the Kenites (Satan’s offsrping through Cain, survived the flood somehow and never a part of the house of Judah, but of Israel). As far as Cain not mentioned in Adam’s lineage that is an argument form inference and is illogical as the bible says that Adam had many other sons and daughters and they are not mentioned in his lineage either. Furthermore, he displays very illogical hermeneutics. The Hebrew word used here in Genesis is “nachash” and it means “serpent” or “snake.” If we take the word literally as snake, then Mr. Murray would be forced to explain how a literal snake could have sexual intercourse with Eve. If Mr. Murray were to acknowledge the potential of a figurative usage of the term here, then he needs to explain why the term “serpent” would be figurative and the term “seed” would be literal. Seed in this instance is more appropriately understood as a spiritual seed (Ro 2:28-29, Ro 8:14, Ro 9:8). The danger in the doctrine is that if you agree with Mr Murray you are not a Kenite, but if you do then you are “the seprent’s seed”. The teaching is unsound, the logica is unsound, and the hermeneutics are unsound. Thank y
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palerider54
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 6:42pmYour right Ming, in your reply to Max Jones
Cain tried to appease God with the works of his hands, just like his parents, Adam and Eve tried to hide their nakedness with fig leaves woven into a covering.
Able pleased God by offering an innocent lamb, that shed its blood to cover Ables sin.
An innocent animal had to die and shed its blood before God could give Adam and Eve a way to cover there sin.
Same as when Jesus, the innocent lamb of God, had to shed his blood and die for our sins.
Able understood this with his offering, Cain did not, and tried to offer a work of his hands.
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Max jones
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 7:09pmI have read what what Dr. Murray has said on the subject and I find nothing in the language that contradicts him. I have gone to his teaching since and find no fault. I know that his syntax and vernacular are unsophisticated, but his knowledge of the languages is huge. His reasoning on this subject makes perfect sense. You define “tares”. I’ll hear you out.
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Max jones
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 7:19pmHippo I see the type of bible you are using takes the real juice right out of your scripture. You probably think there is no reason to understand the Revelation of John, either, right? You will be long gone, fly away?
Anyway, nothing one man or another believes, changes the truth of the matter. Are you ready? It’s on.
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Hanner
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 7:24pmWhat an absolutely true story. This blog shows the actual truth to this story. If so-called “Christians” on this site actually read the bible there would not be so much division and confusion on here. God is not divided nor his word. I know there are trolls on here, but I have read posts on here that are really disturbing. How can anyone expect to live for God and make it to heaven if they don’t study up on the rules about how to get there??? TOLERANCE is a lie!!!!! God does not tolerate sinful behavior. The bible is very explicit about sin. The bible specifically names many sins, and I still read many posts on here by people claiming to know God, but wanting to accepting sinful behavior. Another disturbing fact is that the preachers, ministers, and priests in these pulpits ARE NOT chosen by God to lead his people. They will tell you that they are, but they are not! Jesus himself set the bar for his chosen ministers, and he has not lowered it.!! Example: the Apostles, the seven, and many more beyond them empowered and gifted by the Holy Ghost. The power of God working miracles through a man separates that mans message from all other posers. Where are those miraculous works, you ask? Aaaaahhhhh……now we are getting somewhere. Where have those chosen and anointed ministers of God gone? I’ll tell you this…a revival greater than the one on Azusa Street a hundred years ago is getting ready to take place and it will sweep the earth.
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Max jones
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 7:50pmHanner….Judgement starts at the pulpit, and so much of what you said is so true, but the way I understand the book of Revelation, is that the whole world worships the beast, or basically, dies. right down to the last two believers, who witness the whole process of the rise of the abomination. The resurgence you speak of, is on, This is it, now. They are coming for our weapons very soon, and the beast be coming right behind. He’s a bible scholar, par excella’nce, and he will try to muddy the waters.
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Max jones
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 8:01pmLooks to me like the Tribulation has been going on for a while, now…..You don’t think a Christian in Egypt right now is not in satan’s trib? We have a strong Christian Base, still, in this nation, and that has given us a cushion(Obama is here to remove that cushion). There are probably more scriptural Christians in this nation than in all the rest of the world…. we are the last and most vital target left.
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Dan_o
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 8:42pm@Max Jones, “adding juice” to scripture is strictly forbidden. You and Murray should both be careful.
“You define “tares”. I’ll hear you out.” I’ll answer your request with a question. If Cain is the example and beginning of tares and all men but Noah and his family were wiped out by the flood, then who are the tares of the present? Are women perpetually being impregnated by satan or has the world been free of tares for ~4,500 years?
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SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 9:52pm@ MAX…I use the actual original language that the OT was actually written and the verse I listed is all I need to show Murray is in complete error regarding his doctrine. Again, this is the plain meaning of the original language.
Adam lay with his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, “With the help of the LORD I have brought forth a man.” — NIV
And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bore Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. — NKJV
Now the man had relations with his wife Eve, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain, and she said, “I have gotten a manchild with the help of the LORD.” — NASB
And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. — KJV
Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, saying, “I have gotten a man with the help of the LORD.”—ESV
And the man knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man with the help of the LORD. — ERV
And the man knew Eve his wife, and she conceiveth and beareth Cain, and saith, ‘I have gotten a man by Jehovah;’ — YLT
I’m not sure what you mean by, ‘Are you ready? It’s on” I am in fact ready (for I am in Christ) and I am of the Amillenial persuasion so I do not hold to a rapture. Again, if you can’t find error in Murray, you aren’t lQQking for it..Tell me is it black’s or Jews that are of Cain’s lineage? This is a
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SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 10:18pmTares are those that do the will of Satan, not a race of his actual offspring. “tares” in the King James Version is translated from zizania. A better translation is “darnel” or “cockle.” Specifically, Jesus was referring to Lolium temulentum, a type of ryegrass (not to be confused with rye) that looks very much like wheat the entire time it is growing until near harvest season. At that time, the seed heads look different. It is also interesting that the seeds of Lolium temulentum contain a poisonous drug that can be fatal. A tare is not defined by an actual bloodline or race from Satan and Eve. The flood Killed all but Noah and his family (you I’m sure don’t believe in a world wide flood thus requiring you to do more hermeneutic gymnastics to justify a reginal flood or else your first assertion collapses on itself) which means Noah could not be the seed of Satan because Jesus’ lineage is traced through him. Your desire to twist scripture into an unrecognizable concoction to justify a hatred of a group(s) of people is born of an illogical and unsupported position. Again, to suggest the parable Jesus told of the wheat and tares somehow supports a Serpent seed doctrine is very poor hermeneutics. God clearly states to Cain that if he chooses to do right that he will be accepted, not to let sin master him. Would God say this to the son of the Devil? Clearly the PLAIN teaching of scripture is quite clear on the matter throught OT and NT.
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Max jones
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 12:00amDan-O…His example of scripture was from the niv, or similar bible. Their cheap translation changes meaning in many cases,(purposely) and the reference works for these “modern bibles” are not written for serious study…second subject…”two of each flesh included male and female of each race that existed…We did not get all the races from 8 Adamic souls. The races were created on the sixth day of creation. We have gentile races, therefore they survived the flood.
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Max jones
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 12:11amDan-o…third subject…the tares were with the Jews in the holy land when Jesus walked the earth. He identified a group of them in the gospel. Since the harvest is still in the future, I say that we still have that bloodline with us. The Lord said the angels would gather them into sheaves like straw and burn them at the harvest…hasn’t happened yet. so they are here. Adding to the scripture is a no-no, but omission is, too.
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Max jones
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 1:12amhippos thanks for the response…The OT is the story of the Hebrews. “et hah.adahm”..meaning ruddy complected, 8th day creation. The inception of the Hebrew race. So Cain was a half breed, (mamzar). A “geber”. From the Aramaic. Half (fallen) angel- half Hebrew. I see you brought a bit of accusation into your post, as if there was some kind of ‘racism’ in what I said. The Lord created the races (Gentiles) on the 6th day of creation, He looked and it was good. I believe him.
On the seventh day he rested. He then noted he had no husbandman, to care for the earth, and so created Adam, on the eighth day. Learn how to trans-literate, instead of reading someone else’s trans-lation. You can get a more accurate picture. Or not. I’m not here to change anybody;s mind about anything….evangelism is over. I am here only to serve the elect.
intent on my part.
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SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 8:37am@ MAX….God created Man on the 6th Day, not the 8th. I can and do my own translation. Your opinion on what the actual original language communicates is not accurate or scholarly. Genesis 2:2-3 ….By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.” The word translated as rested is the original word shabath which is actually better understood as ceased (47 times) rather than rested (11 times). Adam is called the first man by Paul in 1 Co 15:45. Adam named his wife Eve because she was the mother of ALL the living. Romans 5:12-14 ….Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned—for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come….BTW you didn’t answer my question is it the black’s or the Jews that are the offspring of Satan? Who are these people? Who do I need to watch out for? You have been taught doctrine of demons, you are not dividing the word rightly and you are twisting clear meanings and language of the original texts. Arnold Murray got his teaching from Mr Branham. Thank you…
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THERAPTURCOMES
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 10:22amMAXJONES
The serpent seed line is just out right a false teaching and if you have any real studies you would know this.
Eve did not have seual relations with the serpent, this is Gnosticism and heretical
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THERAPTURCOMES
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 10:25amMAX JONES
Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.
If you deny this verse that states plainly that Adam is the father of Cain then you deny God and claim you are greater. The bible is written by God through the Inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
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FatFreedom
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 1:30pmPeople abhor the bible as it is the light, that exposes our fallen nature. I am happy to see this study, and I doubt that even 19% actually do read the scriptures daily. If one reads the bible one is hard pressed to agree 100% with whatever evangelical church you might be attending. If you are a Mormon it should make you leave the Church after studying the bible, if you believe what you read. If you are a Catholic, it should stop you from praying to Mary and the St’s. But even in a Bible believing / reading church, there are multiple of areas that can be debated and should. As iron sharpens iron, it is only if one can test ones own knowledge against another brother in Christ, that one can see if one is on the right track or if one has overlooked some scriptures. In a healthy church these conversations should never be discouraged, as they often are. Often when Christians start debating they don’t act like Christians, full of pride and lacking humility. I think that this is unfortunately part of our culture, where we say there are 2 things we don’t talk about, Religion and Politics. That is a saying of the Devil as he does not want us to get to truth. Also by not having regular debates/conversations with Liberals, that when people do it gets heated, and at times with tones of anger, instead of a healthy discourse. With Obama as president, people talk more about politics then it was before :) Mitt, as president will do the same regarding the Bible
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Dan_o
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 8:19pmWell said, FATFREEDOM.
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SUNTZU
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:36pmMax
I stand with you.
Semper-Fi.
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Max jones
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:37amHippos If I were you I would not claim to do your own translation….I’m not the scholar you claim to be, but you, obviously, are not either. I know you are relying on schofield, heavily. pablum. when your milk teeth are gone, try some meat. Et ha-ahdam WAS created on the 8th day…the first Hebrew. Know thine enemy…..I’ll see you on the other side.
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SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:05am@ MAX…” I know you are relying on schofield, heavily.”….WRONG. Your suggestion that I am on milk is illogical given the topic we are debating currently and given the many many posts I have made on the blaze that would speak otherwise. The clear and simple meaning of the scriptures are very straightforward. God “stopped” all of his creating on the 7th day. There is no logical way around this statement nor its construction when lQQking at the original language. It means exactly what it says, he stopped. He did not create Adam on th 8th day he was created on the 6th day. Your claim that Adam and Eve were of a “ruddy complexion” meaning white, so are the blacks and Jews people I need to lQQk out for? Are they the Serpent seed? I noticed you failed to answer my question again on this issue. You use a incorrect word meaning for Adam to confirm this idea. By improperly inferring Strong’s word #119 for Adam {#119 is a Hebrew word, meaning dyed red , red, or ruddy}, in place of the actual assigned word meaning, which is Strong’s #120, which is properly rendered “man” or “mankind”, they teach that the “blushing” race descended from Adam. Consequently, in order to support their doctrine, Shepherds Chapel (Arnold Murray), must rely on substituting “root words” and/or assigning “possible” alternative meanings to what is actually written! Thereby altering the meaning of the beginning of Genesis! CONTINUED….
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SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:22am@ MAX….On every day of creation, God said (spoke) it first, then it came to be…First the command, then the result. This holds true on ever day of creation! (Gen 5:2) ….”When God created mankind, he made them in the likeness of God. He created them male and female and blessed them. And he named them “Mankind” when they were created.” The Hebrew word for “Mankind” in this sentence is Adam. No man was created until Gen 1:27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; “male and female created them” and that man was, as the ooriginal Hebrew declares, the specific man Adam (Eve’s husband), The same man spoke of in Gen 2:7 and again in Gen 5:1. Others may insist that Adam of Gen2:7 was created for a specific purpose “tilling the ground”, however just as Gen2:5 speaks of the creation already made in Gen1:12, so does Gen2:7 speak of the creation already made in Gen1:27, the first man, Adam. Gen2:7 is an expanded view of Gen1:27, Not some seperate creation! (e.g. just as the cattle were created in Gen1:24,these same cattle were mentioned again in Gen.2:20, not some seperate “8th day” creation of cattle! in this same context the same man of 1:27 is mentioned again in 2:7. There is NEVER any mention of “8th day” creation ANYWHERE in the bible. I sure hope you begin to open your eyes to the clear and straightforward teaching of scripture. Thank you….
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self-reliant man
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:51am@ FatFreedom: You said this
If you are a Mormon it should make you leave the Church after studying the bible, if you believe what you read.
I am Mormon and read the bible everyday. Explain this study http://www.pewforum.org/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx
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blackyb
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:59pmThe Word says: Study to show thyself approved. The same way with the Constitution of the United States of America. The liars have taken the Bible and tried to change and water down the meaning. You can get the real scoop with the KJV original and Scofield. What many are being taught are watered down versions that is taking the power out of the Words. People are being dummed down and led to destruction. They had rather not know the truth because it is condeming sin. People like sin “for a season,” but some are stuck with it, i.e., drug using, and carry this to hell with them forever wanting a drug there with no relief. Sin is like flypaper it sticks and adds up. It weighs people down and if people lived 500 years who were not saved, there would be no sin they would not get around to. If people lives many less years, there are no sins they would not do if they do not have salvation.
Sin long enough and your conscious is seared, like a psychopaths to where cruelty is considered a way to feel. People are bearing children with birth defects that is a result of promiscuity and drug usage, yet Hollywood promotes this by snickering, applauding and laughing at when drugs are mentioned. Know this: those Hollywood people who are living in sin are going to hell and it will not make your place in hell any better. You have been told, so re-assess your priorities or pay the price.
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Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:19pmGood post.
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hazeyz27
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:23pmWell sadly most christians think that reading their bible makes them a good christian. Jesus spoke of this while he was here, he said that you search the scriptures for the words of life and I am standing right in front of you. Meaning that the you can know the writen word and not even know Jesus. There are to many christians that know about Jesus but don’t know him. Jesus said be doers of the word, not just hearers of the word. Gods love extends to all people just as Jesus’s blood covers all people, that’s not to say that all will be saved. I am saying this, you can read the bible all you want, but if you are not walking with Jesus moment by moment then it doesn’t matter how much you know you will always have a dead faith. Good works are an extention of our relationship with him, not something we do without him.
So the survey doesn’t matter because it is not the bible that saves you, it is the grace of God by faith in Christ alone.
Ever wonder why billy Graham could preach the same message most of his life and see thousands and thousands saved. It’s because he never alters the original message. Gods saves sinners. The problem isn’t the message, it is the messangers, they want to put their two cents.
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Max jones
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:40pmAnd so?…..”Show thyself approved” wisdom approves. Wisdom to know that Meggido will soon be flooded with blood. Wisdom to know our leaders have the minds of children. Wisdom to know these same leaders are leading us into a fatal mistake. Wisdom to know the famine of the end time is for the truth, and the world drowns in lies. Wisdom to see through these lies and FIND the truth.There,are men here, important, influential men, whose only intent is to defy God, and lead his people to perdition.
Jude 4…For there are certain men crept in unawares, who before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord, Jesus Christ.
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westy98530
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:46pmKJV original? I’m confused by what you mean. You’re not calling the KJV the original bible, are you?
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Winedude
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 5:26pmSin is an imaginary disease created to sell you an imaginary cure. I’ll just leave it at that…
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PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 6:30pmThere was a flood that covered all the earth and the only human survivors were the 8 people on the ARC. So we are all descendents from the 3 sons of Noah: Ham, Shem, and Japheth. Ham had 4 sons, ( one of his sons was Canaan, he was cursed) Shem had 5 sons ( one named Arphaxad from whom descended Abraham and later Christ). Japheth had 7 sons. They all stayed in the same area and then Nimrod built the tower of Babel, God was not pleased and he scattered and confused all the people to the far reaches of the earth.
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Max jones
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 7:32pmpigs fly….there were 8 ‘Adamic souls’ on the arc, but Noah was told to take two of each flesh, male and female….. He saved the races…the gentiles. They were on the earth from the 6th day of creation. Adam was created on the eighth day of creation. Take it or leave it. It is all available, in the bible, if you can handle the languages.
The whole story is called the Key of David, and unifies the old and new testaments..
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 11:08pm@WINEDUDE
It’s amazing to me that Christianity is the main religion in this country.
Our legal says, “innocent until proven guilty”
Christianity says, “you are born guilty and need to accept a sacrifice on your behalf to avoid punishment.”
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Max jones
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 12:27amModeration is best….You;ll be Ok…You obviously feel that you are a self contained man, in need of no refinement, that you cannot take care of on your own. such a powerful way to live, no?
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 12:48am@MAX JONES
Your post was a little ambiguous but I”ll try to interpret what you said.
No, I don’t think I’m born worthy of an eternal torture and can only avoid such torture by accepting a human sacrifice.
I also don’t think you’re born worthy of an eternal torture, or anyone else for that matter.
It depends on what you mean by refinement. Christianity doesn’t offer refinement, it(as someone else said) offers a cure for a made up disease. It offers redemption simply for the “sin” of being born a human being.
I consider myself a better person because I fight for the rights of others.
I don’t judge someone and call them an abomination for simply loving someone of the same sex.
I no longer think that someone is going to get tortured eternally for not accepting a human sacrifice.
Religion doesn’t offer refinement, it offers obedience. An obedience that is unattainable and immoral.
Again, all of this is assumption because none of this supernatural garbage taught in the Bible or any other religious text has been proven to be true.
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Max jones
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 1:32ammoderation is best…Like I said you’ll be Ok….The “sacrifice” Christ made on the cross, was to provide eternal life…to defeat death. Sin is death. When he died on the cross, a spotless soul, He gave us a way to become immortal. Proof, if one believes.
If a man could live a sinless life, he could do it on his own, but he can’t. “Works” alone doesn’t get it done. Living a good responsible, generous life, probably will get you to a nice earthly existence, but won’t show you how to make it in the next.
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 1:46am@MAX JONES
And you just provide another example of why your religion is evil.
It teaches that good deeds are WORTHLESS unless it’s done with a faith in your religion.
Your religion says to someone
“Hey dude, I saw you spent your whole life helping poor people. I saw you giving your life to better other people’s lives…….unfortunately you didn’t believe me in so yeah you can go to hell”
Any being who acts like this, regardless if it exists, isn’t worthy of worship.
That is pure evil and I’m sorry that you’re so deluded that you can’t see how evil and immoral your religion is.
To answer your claim. Yup, I am fine. Thanks for noticing.
Keep living your life thinking other people worthy of an eternal torture and that someone helping someone else is worthless unless they accepted Jesus as their savior.
I will gladly live my life not accepting absolute stupidity and downright evil precepts and risk an eternity of torture then accept unimaginable claims as fact and evil teachings as “moral.”
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Max jones
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 2:26amModeration is best …earthly works are not worthless…but they are earthly, and this earth-age is about to become ‘past-tense’. We must put on immortality to continue. Really, this is the whole story, in a nutshell. The “new-age” ideas of self salvation are incomplete. All men die, and unless you know something the wisest of men haven’t discovered, since the beginning of time, you will too. And then…..?
As far as condemnation of a man “loving” another man…Loving one another is nice….sex in this relationship is just one of the disgusting, un-natural acts men do ‘to’ each other, rather than ‘with’ one another, on this planet. There are many others. Some a lot worse. And you’re right ..it IS a matter of obedience. Obedience to a proven method of getting the very best out of our time here on earth.
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 8:24pm@MAX JONES
So wait, in one argument you’re insinuating that this world doesn’t matter, now you’re saying it does matter.
Get a coherent message…..oh wait, you’re talking about the Bible. Nothing is coherent about that.
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Max jones
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:31ammoderation is best….We all live a life here on earth and some live it well despite any spiritual element guiding them. Adherence to God’s way guarantees four things 1. a guilt free time of family and honesty and love. 2. higher purpose. 3. immortality. and 4. A long string of whiney, self important, angry, and ultimately lonely jokers, getting in Christian’s faces for loving the Creator.
I will tell you this. Christian men are not to be trifled with. The only time you’ll find me turning the other cheek, is when I’m to blame for the conflict. Its happened before.
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jacobstroubles
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:49pmWhile sadly, that is likely true, think of how many do read it.. and then twist, and misinterpret it for their own personal gain. Those who use it to wield and gain control and power of others…
Lots of whack jobs out there, and lots of broken, damaged and easily bamboozled people.
GOD has been watching..and probably done with this shortly..
Rapture soon/tribulation follows
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Max jones
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:55pmThat’s it ignore Revelation. Don’t try to understand that the two witnesses die and you are here to see it. Satan first then the trib ..then we meet the Christ …in spirit, not in the sky. Look up Mary Mcdonald -circa 1830….find out where the pre-trib theory came from.
Ezekiel 13:20…Wherefore thus sayeth the Lord, God; Behold I am against your pillows wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and let the souls go, even the souls ye hunt to make them fly.
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PutMoreOnMyPlate
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 5:46pmPre-Tribbers will deny their way all the way to the bitter end. What does it take for a wake up call that the Tribulation could start any minute and what would it do to your faith if you recognized the signs? Would you give in to the Beast or hold onto your faith and stay true to Christ? I don’t agree with everything John McArthur says and I wish he wouldn’t do us such a disservice. Post-Trib because I believe that come what may I will stand firm in Christ.
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 12:11amThese type of stories always make me laugh.
I constantly hear
“We’re a Christian nation!” and other idiotic statements that are supposed to be some kind of beating of the chest of how dominate Christianity is.
Then I constantly hear how immoral our society is. Well you can’t have it both ways Christians. If we’re a Christian nation, then your faith is the reason why America is failing.
You all say it’s the progressives, the atheists or any other group you want, but supposedly all I hear about is some 75+% of the nation is Christian and some 90% have a belief in a God.
Surely, you will all say that it’s the “other” types of Christians who “aren’t really Christian” or “aren’t following the Bible as it was meant” that is the problem.
The main problem is
You live in a fantasy world where the unimaginable is considered fact and consider facts as lies created by humans to turn others away from your God.
You live in a society that is the wealthiest nation in the history of the world, while your religious book teaches “that it’s easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle then for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God”
The reason why America is so immoral is because its dominate religion has immoral teachings.
Things like
All humans are born worthy of an eternal torture
Accepting human sacrifices for redemption
Honoring a guy who said he would kill his kid to show his love for God
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Max jones
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 1:53amModeration is best….Very soon you will be forced to swear allegiance to a “Global” empire that includes “worship”….or die. Since you have no spiritual master I can predict what you will do. So can you. You have no alternative but to capitulate. You reject the ONLY recourse.
Oh, by the way, If you had spent some length of time, understanding bible prophecy, you would have a ton of proof of the veracity of the Lord’s Word, especially how it relates to these times we are in.
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 9:50am@MAX JONES
Oh, it’s another “end times” nutjob.
You people are such egomaniacs it’s hilarious. “The whole universe was built in mind for us. Jesus will return in my lifetime.” For how humble I hear that you people are supposed to be, I never see it on here.
People have been saying, “this is the end times” for generations, and they have been continually wrong.
Here’s something you may not realize.
You’re not that important. There is no grand design for you or me.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:42amPost-Tribulation denies the clear literal teachings of scripture and ignores Jesus’ teachings in Matthew 24. The Bible CLEARLY states that the tribulation (the 70th week of Daniel, the time of Jacobs trouble) is a 7 year period that begins with the Anti-Christ signs a peace treaty with Israel. Since Israel did not exist again until 1948 when the U.N declared them a nation ( as prophesied in scripture), when did that happen?
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Kidncatmom
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:45pmThe rather small size of the survey bothers me as well; however, I will play along. I am a Christian and have seen this very thing first hand. People I have know for years struggling with the SAME problems year after year and not experiencing the VICTORY in their lives that Jesus paid for with his life! Even if you do attend every Sunday AND go to Sunday School and a Wednesday night Bible study, it takes more than that to have a Christian life that changes us. How can we develop a trusting relationship with God on just 2 days a week for an hour or two? YOU CAN’T! You have to think about your Christian life as a relationship and NOT a requirement. There’s a popular Christian song called “More Like Falling in Love” that hits the nail on the head. I cannot go a day without reading my Bible or spending time in prayer. I do this several times a day and could NOT do without it! I must say that many Christians have not allowed the Holy Spirit to work in their lives and THROUGH their lives. If you ask the Spirit, He *will* give you a greater love and desire to get to know God in a deeper way. I recommend the study “Experiencing God” to any believer who feels that burning desire for more. Since my own encounter with God two years ago, my life has not been the same. I have more joy in my life and a better understanding of God than I had gained in 20+ years of striving.
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Creativethinker
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:34pm@Kickagrandma Totally agree, will not go to a church for the “church social” If the Holy Spirit is not invited to run the service and in it I won’t go.
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PutMoreOnMyPlate
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 5:49pm^ Agree :3
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drphil69
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:32pmNo surprises here… I’d venture to say most self-identified Christians also don’t attend church every Sunday, nor do most self-identified Jews attend Synagogue every Saturday. As far as I know, God never commanded daily Bible reading, so what is the big deal?
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CatB
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:55pmThey are working hard to take care of their families … pay the bills .. give of themselves .. so they don’t read the Bible daily ??? What I have found is when they are older and have more time .. they are more likely to do so .. it isn’t that they don’t want to .. it is a matter of time. I would worry more about daily prayer .. do they live a “Godly” life. .. than if they read the Bible or attend services every week.
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GoodStuff
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:04pm@Catb
“take care of their families … pay the bills .. give of themselves .. so they don’t read the Bible daily ???”
Does any of that trump your relationship with God? No.
People have plenty of time to devote 15-20 minutes to read the Bible and pray, yet they CHOOSE not too.
A lot of false converts in America today; in fact most church-goers are.
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Endyr
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:08pmYou make a good point. There is no requirement to read the written Torah, but there is a requirement to know it as best as one can and what better way to know it than to read it! The requirement for Jews is to pray, and indeed some prayers can only be said in groups, and what better way to find a group than in the synagogue! For those too far away, prayer groups pop up for this very important element. A sage referred to as the Rambam spent a great deal of effort clearing that up. For a fantastic resource if you are interested visit:
http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:28pmI live right next door to my church, so even though I may not read the Bible every day, ! and my family are involved with something church-related, from practicing in our church band, to making sure the church is locked up and things are running properly inside. My wife is the church treasurer, as well as the person who makes all the calls for the church, and creates and prints the church announcements. We also have to work and raise our family. I DO pray every night and sometimes two or three times a day.
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PutMoreOnMyPlate
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 5:48pmI work a twelve hour shift at work on Sundays and I rarely get a chance to read the Bible, but I listen to Christian radio every chance I get and get wonderful insight from different ministers. Still miss my dad’s preaching though ;(
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PutMoreOnMyPlate
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 5:54pmWow and the comments on this thread alone show me that many “Christians” are concerned with what others do that they aren’t concerned with their own relationship with Christ. If there’s anything I’ve learned, it is not ours to condemn others and beat up each other! Look in the mirror if you want a fight! That’s the revolution! It’s in ourselves against our own human nature to drive ourselves to love Christ and come closer to God! Forget everyone else :( That’s where we fall short All of us. And you think Christ wants a Bride that hates herself? If you look at the Church today I see an emo chick wanting to slit her wrists or her ankles or her own throat.
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Max jones
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 8:21pmThe condition of the church is dead. The Laodiceans make void the Word of God,and are spewed from God’s mouth. Man’s folly is inclusiveness and tolerance. I will not fellowship with Laodiceans. Where ever I pray and study my books IS church. Discernment is most important. Those who have ears to hear, HAVE heard, and those with eyes to see have seen…All the rest are for another place and time.
Let the devil have them for a season, then try again. They may be more open to the truth. Kind of like the old saying,”there are no atheists in a foxhole.”
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Max jones
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 2:44amIt seems the influence of Catholicism Is still deeply engrained in ‘our’ Christianity. The Catholic church enforced many “encyclicals” that only benefited the clergy, at the expense of parishioners. Terrible history, and a worse future.
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YAHSHUARULES
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:32pmMost people have no idea the price that was paid by martyrs of the past to give them the privilege that they so cavalierly reject. I went to a exhibit called “Ink & Blood” last week in Anaheim, CA and I learned that after Tyndale was strangled and burned at the stake for trying to give a common person the bible that the man who finished his work Rogers was burned at the stake while his wife and 9 children, the youngest at his mother’s breast stood and encouraged him as he “washed his hands in fire” the very fire that consumed the flesh off his hands and burned him alive. All so everyone could have God’s Holy Word, and not have to rely on capricious monarchs or a Nicolaitan priesthood for their interpretation, but allow the Holy Spirit to give us directly interpretation. Sad more don’t realize that in the past many died horrendous deaths because they knew what a treasure this precious Word is. It is a privilege to be able to read and study The Holy Bible, a gift given to me and all believers by the blood of martyrs who understood its worth to all mankind, without we are all doomed to a darkness of moral relativity, secularism, humanism where they walk it darkness and call it light.
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michael from Ga.
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:08pmI like your name, and comments.
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Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:27pm@YAHSHUARULES. GREAT post. You’ve given me a new point of view!
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PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 6:42pmI never understood what the Bible meant until i starting watching “through the Bible with Les Feldick” everyday on local tv station. I would even dvr it even if i watched it. It amazing when you start to learn the history along with the meaning and then start reading on your own..suddenly you know what you’re reading is truth and the Holy Spirit just fills you with God’s wisdom and understanding and humbles you beyond anything. It brings peace to you heart and soul because you find you’re not in charge HE IS. And that Jesus loves you and you are never ever alone. And the more you read and the more you understand that the veil was ripped from top to bottom in the Temple for the purpose of our access to His Glory. People you just don’t know how powerful we really could be if we are alive in Christ. Paul said ” I am in travail until Christ before me in You.”
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Texas.7
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 7:52pmGod bless you!
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proliance
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 9:04pmCan we straighten this out once and for all? Tyndale was not killed for trying to create a bible for the masses to read.
According to St. Thomas Moore, finding mistakes in Tyndale’s bible was like trying to find water in the ocean. The Protestant Bishop of London said there were as many as 2,000 errors in his Tyndale’s translation.
He was killed for blanantly disregarding the law and creating an aweful translation that was full of his opinion of what he thought the bible should be.
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YAHSHUARULES
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 10:25pmPROLIANCE I am not going to argue with you…matters not. Important thing is that Christians especially would reverence The Word of God. Would appreciate the sacrifices that were made to bring it to them. From the time of the dead sea scrolls to the first bibles printed here in the United States a lot of people died horrific deaths so each of us could have the Almighty through His Holy Spirit speak to us personally through the pages of his Holy Book. A Love Letter to those who have accepted the Ultimate Sacrifice of His ONLY Begotten son Yahshua.
PIGSWILLNEVERFLY thank you for your personal testimony. It was wonderful to read. Truly, if people approach the Word of God with an open mind the depths of it will capture you for a lifetime, The Bible is the only book with 100′s of years of FULFILLED PROPHESY – prophesies that were spoken hundreds of years before they were fulfilled. God proves his sovereignty. But what I love most is the elegance of how things concealed in the Old Testament are revealed in the New. The Types and Shadows that Yahshua was the fullfillment of. So much more. Science is just catching up with what was divinely revealed in God’s word.
For those who want deep scholarly study try Chuck Missler’s teachings.
You will learn alot with his “Learn the Bible in 24 hours” (its 24hrs of DVD’s and it just scratches the surface)
BLESS YOU and all those that hunger and thirst after righteousness we shall be filled.
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 12:28am@PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
So what your’e saying is you needed something outside of the Bible to confirm your faith in the Bible?
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kickagrandma
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:30pmBINGO! There’s the problem. It is easier to worship church and follow its teachings than it is to come out of this world and be GOD’S “peculiar people”. We are HIS and belong to none other, although it was close there for many of us, maybe even more than once. The good news IS THE GOOD NEWS, and we are telling it whether the churches like it or not.
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Creativethinker
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:26pmI bought a really good study Bible and it has opened up the Bible more and more to me. Its made reading the Bible even Revelations very easy to understand.
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drphil69
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:35pmAgreed. The study Bible I got gives a lot of historical perspective and understanding of the verses.
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Jezreel
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:25pmMost people go to church on Sundays for the social aspect. It is not the “assemblying of the saints”. They go to “gatherings programed by man”. The meetings are powerless and dull. Churches have to employ men ordained by man to hop and jump around and scream and yell, especially in a lot of black churches, they actually think because a man screams or yells that is the “anointing”. It is only the flesh. They have to have music programs to entertain. Satan is very active in the worship aspect of the system of organized religion and most people perform music they call “unto the Lord” to get noticed. Even the concept of “going to church” is a man made concept with ideas and traditions brought over from the Roman Catholic church. All denominations are cults. If people read their bibles, and actually prayed and sought God, they would realize that they need saved and need to repent and would not follow man instead of following the Lord Jesus Christ. HIS SHEEP HEAR HIS VOICE AND A STRANGER THEY WILL NOT FOLLOW.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:29pmThat’s because a Saint would even rather go into his own closet to pray, then to go to church.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:31pmI mean “Than” go to church.
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Max jones
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 12:21amAs long as a soul is aware that Satan comes at the 6th trump, and Christ at the 7th. At the END of Jacob’s troubles.
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Swalker
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:23pmI make it a point to never interpret the Bible but read it and seek understanding, there is nothing I know without the guidance of my God and he will show me the way.
There are so many seeking to teach me the word and yet have not the wisdom to know how God wants me to be. I believe His way is far better than the way of man.
But then, I am a simple man of little knowledge in these things.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:21pmNow isn’t it written that Elias comes to restore things, before Jesus returns? Well if things need to be restored, then things must not be getting told correctly.
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Max jones
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 5:29pmBeing restored as we breathe.
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Tigress1
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:20pm“Most churchgoers do not read the Bible on a daily basis.”
Why should they? They probably have it memorized!
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GoodStuff
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:06pmMemorized? really? That’s their excuse? That’s your excuse?
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Tigress1
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:28pmOnce you know it, you know it.
Seriously, I never claimed to have the Bible memorized, and I have no legitimate excuse for not reading it. However, I know people who DO have the Bible memorized, and can throw around more quotes and verses that it will make your head spin. While admirable, that’s really not my style. I just live my life the best I can, and hope God will forgive me for the rest.
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Max jones
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 8:41pmThe deeper I get into the ‘study’ of scripture, the more I learn about what I don’t grasp… the why’s and causes of events, and the motivations of biblical characters. And most important is the story of the bloodline of Adam being kept pure through thousands of years, to produce the immaculate conception, and the birth of Christ…the Key of David. .Ah the old testament…..Awesome. Memorization is okay for milk drinkers, but true believers need meat. Satan himself is a scripture lawyer.
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pantokrator
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:17pmI am not among those who attends church regularly with a crowd of people and a priest. However, I am unfortunately among those who does not read the Bible on a daily basis. I believe wholeheartedly in the Holy Spirit, and in the life of Jesus Christ, but I definitely don’t read the Bible as much as I should. I spend most of my time defending the existence of God, therefore in everything else in the Bible, than actually studying His Word.
It’s funny. When it comes to logic, philosophy and reason, it’s easy to discuss the existence of God with a skeptic. But when it comes to the actual Bible itself, I am almost always and completely baffled and confused. I find it much harder to understand the Bible than to understand a book on biology and astronomy. I suppose it’s because science is science, and it hides no message or has no metaphorical coding, whereas in the Bible, it’s so easy to misinterpret what it means, which is why we have so many perversions in Christianity, Catholicism, and many Atheists as well.
But I do acknowledge that I am very much lacking just reading the Bible, spending most of my time explaining why Christ was who He said He was (and still is), rather than focusing on my own walk with Him.
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standuppeople
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:51pmBrave post.
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DeathRattle
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 5:46pmBlueLetterBible.com is a great resource Pant, I’ll keep you in my prayers brother.
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pantokrator
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 6:49pmThanks, truly. I will definitely look up that website. God bless! :)
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Texas.7
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 7:09pmSomehow, we know that the Bible is true, even if you don’t always understand it. Don’t give up on it, but ask God to speak to you through it. I could read a verse many times and suddenly understand something in a very different way. That is because the Holy Spirit speaks to us thru His Word. And that is why we intuitively know truth, even when we don’t understand it all, and faith is rewarded with insight.
Atheistic scientists have their own faith in theories which can’t be proven. I especially love what little I know about Quantum Chromodynamics theory. Quarks apparently move “between existence and non-existence”, as if thru a barrier. They are calculated with both real and imaginary numbers. And the law which describes them uses fictional colors, based on the pattern of how our brain interpretes red, green and blue cone stimulation in the eye.
And the funny thing is they are probably fairly correct on their assessment of these particles. (I assume). But their knowledge is based on analogies which reference what can be seen (literally), to understand things that can’t be seen. And these guys even know that red, green and blue don’t even exist except as an interpretation made in our brain, to help us differentiate long, medium and short EM waves.
So how far of a stretch is it for a believer to find that the Red, Blue, Green force itself speaks of the Trinity. No imaginary numbers needed.
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Texas.7
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 7:43pmI meant, even if “we” don’t understand all of it… I know enough to know there is much more I don’t understand than what I understand. Good thing that every morsel is so filling. While we are left wanting more, we feel refreshed when the Lord speaks to us. I praise God that we can know Him through the living Spirit within us so intimately, yet there is always so much more to know. And His love and mercy is greater than any other knowledge at all. His love is enough to carry us, but more truth sets us on fire with even more passion and helps us to make sense to others.
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Max jones
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 3:21amPANTOKRATOR… there are a couple of precepts that led me to a greater understanding …The Old testament is the story of the Hebrews and the people they came into contact with. Their story is about the preservation and protection of the bloodline of Adam the first Hebrew. It is filled with prophecy, not only about Jesus, but about the end times. The new testament is about Jesus, his life among the Jews in the holy land, and the fulfillment of Old testament prophecy. His ministry and his passion. The “Key Of David” ties both together as the bloodline of Adam is brought , un-sullied, through Noah, to King David., to Mary, the mother of Jesus.
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elskid
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 6:48amThe reason the bible makes no sense is because what you have been TOLD about Scripture is in CONFLICT with what is actually written IN Scriptures. Preachers say, “Don’t believe ME; check what I say against Scripture.” That is EXACTLY what the Bereans did w/ Paul. Acts 17:11, the Bereans checked what Paul told them against “old testament”. Once they CONFIRMED that what Paul said was in the OT THEN they were willing to believe him. So ANYTHING Paul taught MUST be CONFIRMED by the OT.
You see, Scripture is the STANDARD. Theoretically, you should be able to let a person who is ignorant of church doctrine read Scripture and he would INDEPENDENTLY come up with church doctrine.
But that is not the case. Today, church doctrine CONFLICTS with Scripture.
The best example is the Sabbath.
Scripture tells us that the FATHER himself said that His people were to observe Sabbath ‘for all generations.”
So when Paul told the Bereans that the Sabbath was no longer to be observed, WHERE DID THE BEREANS FIND THAT IN THE OLD TESTAMENT?
How would a person, who is ONLY USING SCRIPTURE as his guide, come up with church on sunday, (instead of Sabbath) or christmas or easter (instead of the Feasts the Father created)? They cannot.
Those are things which were INVENTED by MAN /organized religion.
Today’s church REMOVED what the FATHER told us in Scripture, then INVENTED new things and then uses carefully selected verses out of Scripture to prove them.
That is wrong and that is why y
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chips1
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:15pmMost politicians have NEVER read the Constitution.
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cdcats8
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:11pmI agree with Johnny 916. I have enjoyed following all the biblical interpretations on the Blaze during the blogging on Mormon faith. I watched a gardening show and the man quoted the bible and the verses said things to him they might not say to another. We need to open our minds and let God speak to us. Most of us just don’t listen. I do not read the bible daily but when I start researching for small groups for Sunday I may read for a couple of hours. Stats can be made to show what ever the statistic taker wants them to. WHY do we all have to be a statistic?
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DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:07pm“Most churchgoers do not read the Bible on a daily basis…”
That’s a big, “So what?”
Most atheists have never even opened Darwin’s Origin of Species, let alone read it, yet they base all that they hold dear on what they’re told is in it.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:14pmThose are manuals for the dead anyways, and the lively realize the truth as more and more they come down off their wine. Although I do enjoy reading the so-called Apostle Paul in the way he tries to mislead.
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SNAFOO
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:54pmDemocrats, atheists and antitheists can REEEAADDDD?
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Blacktooth
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:00pmIf a person does not read the Bible, he will never understand what’s in it.
He will remain ignorant of God’s message to mankind and will not understand the sacrifice that God provided for all of us through Jesus Christ, His Son. Life comes from God and if we dismiss Him or ignore Him and His Son, what hope is there for us? – John 17:3
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:17pm99.9% will remain ignorant anyways, and especially since Paul helped blind people. After-all Jesus did speak of Heaven and earth fading away, and Jesus did say all he spoke of would come to be before that generation back then came to pass.
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Blacktooth
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:39pmOverseerwillie,
I would suggest you read Genesis chapters 1 and 2 again.
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GoodStuff
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:07pm@over
“the zionists have substituted over 37,000 words ”
Oh look, the Paulestinians are showing up.
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DavidLike
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:00pmIs this something like the 80/20 rule where 20% do 80% of the work? The anti-CHRISian crowd needs to fear the 20. That percentage in these dark and evil days manifest the “unmatched” Jesus Christ. In its in HIS playbook. We are living in the last days of the government of men who have made themselves independent of HIS laws. A word of warning to the nay-sayers. Don’t misinterpret God’s patience for His inability to administrate His justice.
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DeathRattle
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 2:59pmWhat do atheists see from a lot of Christians? They see them go to church on Sunday then walk their week in the worldy way. I have said for a long time it’s time to oil the hinges on our Bibles and set yourself straight with God. I ask God for a clean slate every morning and the power to get through the day.
I have lived the last 11 years dealing with pain at a level of 8 out of 10. I can attest to God’s grace in my everyday walk with Him. He will be glad to hear from anyone that hasn’t spoken to Him and glad to forgive regardless of the sin, please take the time now.
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Texas.7
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 8:32pmI am so sorry for your pain. I pray to God that He take that pain from you. It sounds like you have responded to adversity with an even closer walk with the Lord. May God reward your strength and courage with healing and refreshing, and may He use you to touch others who are in need of the same.
God bless you
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TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 2:52pmI do not attend church regularly; but I read or listen to the Bible daily. Old and New Testaments; as one cannot function without the other.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 2:59pmOh, what’s a unicorn then? Do you understand what you read? Like Albert Einstein said: the body is only to carry around the brain. What kind of chariot do you drive? Do you understand what you read? There’s no one here in the wilderness but me, therefore you must be like everyone else.
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Jenny Lind
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:02pmEvery day something comes along in my life where I grab the Bible and look up what it says about it. That usually gets me going to further research and reading. It takes away the confusion and fear and fills me with peace and hope.
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Totally Domestic
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 2:52pmThat is why America is in the mess it is in.
Church not being salt an light.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 2:51pmMost of them do not get much out of the Bible anyways because they take it literally. Case in point the mountains aren’t actually mountains such as the Rocky Mountains. And when your mountain melts that’s when the world population has increased so much that the spiritual mountains fade away, and then the souls of the unicorns come down to play. Now the walking dead will tell me I’m wrong.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:25pmI declare, you ought to mark the door to your house – that door that is near to the sheep’s pool, and the gate – you probably want to mark it with Christ.
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Max jones
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 3:49amwaterspeople Y’ can’t see the sunset without looking at the horizon. You can’t kiss without a mouth. You walk far enough , you get somewhere. You live…you die. You won’t get help, unless you ask. These are biblical truths…paraphrased.of course. Just for you timmy
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Psychosis
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 2:49pmThe Transformational Discipleship study, conducted by LifeWay Research, surveyed 2,390 U.S. Protestants who said they attend church at least once a month, according to the Christian Post.
in order to make this ASSUMPTION more accurate your would expect them to survey more than one religious ” sect”
a better way to say it is too few church goers read the Bible every day
too few Christians actually even go to Church anymore, much less read the Bible
surprisingly, this correlates with increase in crime statistics, and other unwanted behavior ……..whodathunk
“Too many churchgoers want the benefits of salvation without investing in personally knowing Christ and the abundant life he offers.
KINDA LIKE TOO MANY CITIZENS WANT THE BENEFITS OF HARD WORK, WITHOUT ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK
the entitlement attitude crosses all cultural and civilization divides ITS HUMAN NATURE ( something the left fails to recognize in most of their ” visions”
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Max jones
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 3:31amThe “church” is polluted: with the traditions of man..Has been for a long time. The truth is not there. It is more a feeling of belonging that brings people to church. I know of few churches that have leadership that 1. teaches the bible verse by verse and precept on precept 2. Actually study 3. Keep the traditions of man out of the celebrations.
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Johnny916
Posted on September 9, 2012 at 2:41pmAs a skeptic this is not surprising. I have seen many Christians who are proud of their faith, but they haven’t really read the bible. There is no shame for a Christian to read the bible. I enjoy looking at the bible and seeing how all kind of people can have different interpretations of verses, characters, and stories.
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