Ron Paul Knocks DNC & GOP Conventions as ‘Taxpayer Funded Spectacles,’ Reminds Both Parties the U.S. Is a Republic

Associated Press/Jae C. Hong - Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, talks with a Texas delegate on the floor at the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Fla., on Tuesday, Aug. 28, 2012. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)
Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) on Monday criticized the GOP and the DNC for throwing lavish conventions at the expense of U.S. taxpayers and knocked both parties for constantly referring to the U.S. as a democracy.
“Last week marked the conclusion of the grand taxpayer funded spectacles known as the national party conventions,” Rep. Paul’s statement reads.
“It is perhaps very telling that while $18 million in tax dollars was granted to each party for these lavish ordeals, an additional $50 million each was needed for security in anticipation of the inevitable protests at each event,” it adds.
However, as Rep. Paul notes, the fact that both conventions cost approximately $136 million is nothing when compared to the amount of debt the U.S. government has accumulated through reckless spending.
“Parties should fund their own parties, not the taxpayer,” the statement continues. “At these conventions, leaders determined, or pretended to determine, who they wished to govern the nation for the next four years amidst inevitable, endless exaltations of democracy.”
And it’s that “exaltations of democracy” that has Rep. Paul annoyed.
“[W]e are not a democracy. In fact, the founding fathers found the concept of democracy very dangerous,” the statement reads.
“Democracy is majority rule at the expense of the minority. Our system has certain democratic elements, but the founders never mentioned democracy in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, or the Declaration of Independence,” it adds.
Indeed, as the Texas congressman’s statement reminds us, the first amendment itself — technically speaking — isn’t “democratic.”
“[T]he First Amendment protects free speech. It doesn’t — or shouldn’t — matter if that speech is abhorrent to 51% or even 99% of the people. Speech is not subject to majority approval. Under our republican form of government, the individual, the smallest of minorities, is protected from the mob,” according to the statement.
Rep. Paul’s statement continues:
Sadly, the constitution and its protections are respected less and less as we have quietly allowed our constitutional republic to devolve into a militarist, corporatist social democracy. Laws are broken, quietly changed and ignored when inconvenient to those in power, while others in positions to check and balance do nothing. The protections the founders put in place are more and more just an illusion.
This is why increasing importance is placed on the beliefs and views of the president. The very narrow limitations on government power are clearly laid out in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution. Nowhere is there any reference to being able to force Americans to buy health insurance or face a tax/penalty, for example … Because we are a constitutional republic, the mere popularity of a policy should not matter. If it is in clear violation of the limits of government and the people still want it, a Constitutional amendment is the only appropriate way to proceed. However, rather than going through this arduous process, the Constitution was in effect, ignored and the insurance mandate was allowed anyway.
This demonstrates how there is now a great deal of unhindered flexibility in the Oval Office to impose personal views and preferences on the country, so long as 51% of the people can be convinced to vote a certain way. The other 49% on the other hand have much to be angry about and protest under this system.
Very angry, indeed.
“We should not tolerate the fact that we have become a nation ruled by men, their whims and the mood of the day, and not laws,” Rep. Paul adds. “It cannot be emphasized enough that we are a republic, not a democracy and, as such, we should insist that the framework of the Constitution be respected and boundaries set by law are not crossed by our leaders.”
“These legal limitations on government assure that other men do not impose their will over the individual, rather, the individual is able to govern himself. When government is restrained, liberty thrives,” it concludes.
With Rep. Paul’s words in mind, and as Election Day draws closer, ask yourself this question: Out of the two men running for the highest office in the nation, who is most likely to expand/restrain the role government plays in the life of the U.S. citizen?
UPDATE — Apparently, I need to clarify this (I thought it would be understood): Out of the two men running for the highest office in the nation with a realistic and reasonable chance of winning, who is most likely to expand/restrain the role government plays in the life of the U.S. citizen?
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Comments (257)
jespasinthru
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:47amY’all are just gonna stay home on election day, and you know it. You won’t bother to go out and vote for the one who is less evil than the one that you’re already stuck with.
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survivorseed
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 2:50amNot less evil, just more visually comforting
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:00amwhat business does light have with darkness?
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techengineer11
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:40amAmerica is in grave trouble and just getting rid of Obama is not going to correct it.. I don’t know if I can vote for Romney yet.. As much as I despise Obama Romney just doesn’t really give me a reason to support him.. He never speaks of liberty the Constitution or small gov’t.. Never! He’s simply less radical than Obama imo and I’m not sure if that’s reason enough to support him.
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Landon410
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 11:39amnot voting for Romney IS A VOTE FOR OBAMA
you want this health care bill to be completly implemented? don’t vote at all, you want higher taxes? don’t vote at all, you want us the keep dropping lower and in lower in the list of “free” countries? don’t vote at all
Romney was not my first pick either, but I’m not too short sited to see that not voting for Romney is a vote for Obama.
We are ranked 10th in a list of countries in order of economic freedom… maybe we should change our anthem… “and the home, or the 10th most free….”
we are losing ground in monetary freedom, investment freedom,and freedom from coruption,
Thanks, barry!
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Landon410
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 11:41amObama has increased borrowing by 332%
again 332% over what Bush did
think about that, then consider if you can’t vote for Romney
MadAsHeII
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:12pmI had a post that was on the top of this first page, but now it is on the second page with a little advise to everyone. Hope you read it.
Now, all that say a vote for anyone bur Romney is a vote for Obama. I am not sure where anyone in their right mind would think this way. A vote for Romney is a vote for Romney, a vote for Johnson is a vote for Johnson. I hear people say that competition is good, and that liberals are giving trophies to all the young children so their feelings are not hurt, and this is a terrible thing as the liberals are not teaching competition. But when it comes to politics, there is no room for competition from any type of grassroots candidate, to the point that the RNC has pretty much made that impossible going forward. They do not want competition against their chosen candidates and all of you just go along with that theory? Romney is for the Patriot Act and the NDAA as Obama signed into law. A Marine was unlawfully detained from profiling done under these laws. Others are also having the same experience. Here is a story of a 16 year old that did a video for a school project. He got an A+.
The video touches on a number of issues, including the National Defense Authorization Act, evidence suggesting the Republican caucus in Maine was fixed to disenfranchise Ron Paul, the activist group Anonymous, military drills taking place in American cities, as well as evisceration’s of the right to free speech. He was visited and questioned by the FBI!
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:19pmContinued… Here is the video the 16 year old submitted and then questioned on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsxkLkv1Ckw&feature=player_embedded
After everything, this is a statement the 16 year old gave:
“So that’s my story, a teen from the suburbs who was questioned by the FBI about a harmless free speech protected video I made for school. My record forever scarred with the truth that the FBI questioned me. When getting a job they will see that, when getting a passport they will see that, when going to college they will see that,” he writes.
This case represents merely the latest example of Americans being questioned, harassed and intimidated by different branches of the federal government over their political beliefs.
Last month former Marine Brandon Raub was kidnapped by authorities and held in a psychiatric ward for political posts made on Facebook, just one of thousands of similar ongoing cases. Gun owners are also having their firearms confiscated having been declared “mentally defective” due to their political beliefs.
We will not get rid of this tyranny until people wake up to it. Voting Romney or Obama will not do it. Only sending a message to both parties by voting third party for once, will do it. If not this election, when will we finally speak out against tyranny? Never.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:32pmOne more thing, Obama’s polling just keeps going up, +3.1: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
I heard Fox News trying to say that Gallup was being strong armed by Obama’s administration. When Sean Hannity asked Dick Morris if Gallup should be discounted, Morris said no, they are a reputable polling company, and I agree. Gallup would not change their polling just because they are told to by Obama. If that was the case, then it must be true with Rassmussen too? I do not think so. This is just the way the polling is going. McCain was ahead at this point in ’08 and he lost big time.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/obama_vs_romney_compared_to_obama_vs_mccain.html
Everyone needs to stop thinking that Romney is going to win by some big landslide as I do not believe he has what it takes to win at all.
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Evongelo
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 5:05pmI will not, and let me repeat that, WILL NOT, throw my vote away on Mitt Romney no matter how bad the other guy is if for no less a reason then that I fully believe they are one in the same. You tell me to vote for the lesser of two evils, then tell me this: how has voting for evil turned out for YOU so far?
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 5:18pmjust imagine if all these republicans had voted for Pastor Chuck Baldwin in 2008 instead of McCain. It would have altered the whole political landscape and we would be in a MUCH better place today
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Stink Fist
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:07pmIf you don’t want to vote for Romney vote for Paul. I’m sure he’ll get 20% of the vote even now. They really screwed him big time. Blaze only ran one story on him, and it was about his wife’s cookbook. Meanwhile Paul had thousands of people at his events compared to Romney’s 20-30 old dudes. Report on that Blaze, and shame one you.
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Vegasdad702
Posted on September 12, 2012 at 7:15amWOW!!! Ron Paul KILLED it as usual!!! You guys would not believe the heat I have been getting from fellow registered Republicans because I will NOT vote for Romney because of the evil power grab exposing Romney and the GOP as dirty as the DEMS!!! Look anyone who doesn’t see it, is living in la la land. I tried to get on board and vote for Romney because Obama really is that bad! He’s AWFUL!!! But Romney hasn’t even won, and is already exposing himself as a big government PROGRESSIVE! We ALL listen to Glenn Beck, and respect the man VERY much, and even Mr. Beck has said “WHAT IS ROMNEY DOING???”. Im of coarse referring to Obamacare. Incase you missed it Romney said there are some things he REALLY LIKES! Like pre existing conditions!!!! Which Mr. Beck explained was NUTS!! And will drive insurance up like crazy!!! The other reason I CANNOT vote for Romney is the robbery of the floor vote at the RNC, where Boehner stole the vote and damned the delegates by ruling what was on a teleprompter!!!! I will ad the video. If you still can vote for Romney after seeing this, than you need your head checked!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKaXqoC4DjE I tried friends BUT EVEN TODAY on Mr. Becks show his guest said Ron Paul was the ONLY guy that was trying to stop a tyrannical government!!! I love how on the Democrat sites their crying “Don’t vote for Johnson its a vote for Romney!”. NO SHEEPLE ITS A VOTE FOR PRINCIPLE!!!! What happened to my fellow conservatives???? PLEASE WAKE UP
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Vegasdad702
Posted on September 12, 2012 at 7:46amYour gonna vote for Romney?? REALLY??? Look I get it, Obama is that bad. Even Rand Paul said he’s gonna vote for Romney and still have his beliefs in the morning. But Me, ahh, well, I just got tired of loosing debates with friends about trying to convince them I had principles even if I vote for a Progressive. I mean after all, he has to be BETTER Than Obama right??? No I was just trying to convince myself. Men like Ron Paul will be remembered and spoke about for hundreds of years because they NEVER backed down on their PRINCIPLES. How can I be a man of principle knowing full well Romney is the same thing as Obama? He just has an R instead of a D in front of his name? Look whatever you choose to do, God bless you. Im not gonna tell you your stupid, or your wasting your vote, or whatever. I just know in my heart I am a Libertarian in philosophy. I understand what Progressives are. I get how bad both Bush and Obama have been for our Republic. I will NOT trade one tyrant for another. But thats me. Good luck because it has been a very tough and hard choice to leave my party. But heres a link if your still not convinced that Mitt is a puppet, who will do EVERYTHING that Obamas handlers have told him to do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c&feature=related
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Sorionc
Posted on September 12, 2012 at 12:28pmUr question at the end if the problem with our country. U think we can only vote for one of two people. Voting for the lesser of two evils leads to a terrible outcome anyway
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Vegasdad702
Posted on September 12, 2012 at 6:44pmhey everyone, VEGASMOM702 here lol. just wanted to put an idea out there and see what you guys think. the debates are held by the tv networks, and they decide who gets to participate in the debate. none of them will even let gary johnson participate. seeing that as of today glenn has his own network on dish, i challenge him to have a debate and invite all three candidates. are we really going to get something different with this network? remember the truth has no agenda. the truth is there is 3 candidates running and we deserve to make an informed decision. they didnt let him speak in the republican primary, even when he was invited to attend the debates. what do you guys think?
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Chet Hempstead
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:35amRon, we all know that this is a republic. No country in the world is a democracy in the sense that the Ancient Greeks used the word, but we’re not living in ancient Greece and we’re not speaking Greek, we’re living in the twenty-first century and speaking English. When people use the word democracy today they are referring to constitutional republics with elected legislatures just like ours. The word republic is too imprecise to be meaningful, since one definition of the word is any country that is not a monarchy, and most dictatorships have the word republic in their name. So people are going to continue to refer to the countries of the free world as democracies, because it’s shorter than calling them constitutional republics with elected governments, and you might as well get used to it, because that’s what the word means now to speakers of twenty-first century English.
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k8ti
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:50amDon’t make excuses…..when you look up the word Democracy it has a VERY different meaning than that of the word Republic! I want our future American generations to know the difference, and not go along with what their being told to think. It’s VERY important we maintain calling our form of government a Republic and stick to our history, don’t change that because your being told to…that’s very dangerous waters!!!!!
And since you seem to be so against (extreme CONSERVATIVE) Ron Paul (probably because you’ve been told to be without really knowing what he stands for)….would it make you feel better to know that Allen West ALWAYS says this EXACT same thing!? And, I love both Allen West and Ron Paul….we need more men like them in government…we wouldn’t be in the mess if there were.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:51amOligarchy: NOUN:
pl. ol·i·gar·chies
Government by a few, especially by a small faction of persons or families.
Those making up such a government.
A state governed by a few persons.
Bushes and Clintons in power positions for over three decades. Talk of Hillary in 2016. Sounds like an Oligarchy to me, not a Republic.
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KevINtampa
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 2:16amChanging the language much? How very Progressive of you. Idiots to the left of me, idiots to the right, and both seem to be arguing who’s more useful. Sad bad true.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 3:04amKevin, this ones for you, you are right. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8StG4fFWHqg
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justafollower
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:24amChet – words have meanings. They’re in this book called a dictionary. We can’t just ‘say democracy’ and mean ‘constitutional republic’ that’s absurd!
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lordjosh
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:49amOut of the two nominees for the one party split in two…….NEITHER! And if you think differently, your willfully blind.(Must be willfully because you seem to have enouph intelligence to read and write)
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BenInNY
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 10:22amShorter LordJosh: “if you disagree with me you’re Stoopit!”
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General George
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:56pmNo, dummy, the meaning hasn’t changed like the word gay. It used to mean happy, now its far different. democracy is a very bad thing as the founders knew but you obviously don’t. Just because its a different year on the calender doesn’t make truth change. There’s NOTHING NEW under the sun.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 2:26pmUm, Chet, that’s the silliest thing I’ve read in a long, long time. If people use the word “airplane” to mean “automobile” they deserve to be corrected at every opportunity. You don’t get to change word meanings and make language unintelligible “just because”. Sorry.
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Chet Hempstead
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 4:08pmFolks, the dictionary is a guidebook to the language, not a rule book for the language. The meanings of words change all the time, and the dictionary changes to reflect how words are used in the language as it is currently spoken. I’m looking at the definition of democracy in this year’s dictionary, and it says:
b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections.
In other words, just what I said, a republic with a form of government resembling that of the United States. That’s what the word means today. That’s how people use it. That’s the only meaning people have any use for since there’s no such thing as a democracy in the original sense of the word and there never will be.
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Vegasdad702
Posted on September 12, 2012 at 6:16pm@Chet- Sorry to break it to you buddy, but thats EXACTLY what PROGRESSIVES and uneducated people want and think. Did you see Michael Moores doc- “Capitalism a love story”? If so you would know the climax and message at the end of the film was a call for an end to our REPUBLIC and a call to have a DEMOCRACY!!! Nice try man, but the LEFT is VERY aware of the power of this word, and so is the PROGRESSIVE right.
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Brother Winston Smith
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:16amActually, FAKE-conservative/Libertarian Beck/Blaze, this is NOT a “released” “statement.” It is a WEEKLY REPORT that DOCTOR, VETERAN, ECONOMIST, CONSTITUTIONALIST Ron Paul pens and records. EVERY WEEK!!!!!! WHY ARE YOU CALLING ATTENTION TO IT, ONLY IMMEDIATELY AFTER HE WAS CHEATED OUT OF PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION? Coincidence? Why have you COMPLETELY IGNORED his “released” “statements” FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS… until now?
Why?
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BenInNY
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 10:25amOne of two reasons:
First time it came in to the tip form recently
or THEY”RE not FANS of CAPITAL letters in the COMMENTS section.
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General George
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 2:08pmAs a Republican, I can only vote my conscience. Unfortuately I have to vote Gary Johnson because he has a far better record than tyranny hard (Obama-Davis) or tyranny light (Mittens Romney). And,
after the blatant cheating the Republican establishment pulled with Ron Paul. Im gone from the Not so grand party.
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Skrewedretiree
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:15amRon Paul is today’s Ross Perot: He carries a large following, but if the Paulistas don’t vote for Romney, or vote for Obama, they guarantee another 4 years of totalitarian government. So…do they get what they want?
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TheSkepticalLibertarian
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:33am4 more years of a totalitarian government is better than 8 years of a marginally less totalitarian government.
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stormking
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:35am@Skrewedretiree
If you vote for Romney you get the exact same thing as you do with Obama. Why do you guys keep fooling your self’s by thinking you will get anything different?
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:36amLook, I voted for Romney in the primary, it stunk, but I did. I had planned on putting a clothespin on my nose and voting for him in the general election, but then this happened: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKaXqoC4DjE&feature=youtu.be
I and many Freedom Works Tea Party members decided that was the final straw. Then the DNC did this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cncbOEoQbOg&feature=youtu.be
Neither party is listening to the voice of the people. This is true tyranny. If we want to take our country back, the only way is to send a clear message to both parties by voting for, as Brewster said, none of the above. Gary Johnson is a Republican with libertarian leanings running on the Libertarian ticket after the GOP treated him unfairly in the debates. If we want our country back, we need to vote third party for one election, then if the other parties get their act together, we can look at them again. I heard this from another blogger and it makes sense to me.At least listen to Johnson here: http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/front
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 2:09amYou know, I am finding that there are a lot of closed minded people on this blog. That is not a virtue you know. Ideas should be looked at from all people, researched and conversations to debate back and forth. On here, it seems that most have this idea that they are right no matter what and that is it, do not talk to me, I am smarter than you, no communication, no power of the mastermind here. I am in sales and I am damn good at it. But in order to have a team work together to one goal, we all talk together, take the ideas from one another, research everything and come up with ideas that are good for the whole. I have different ideas than you, but I will listen to yours, give you mine, expect you to listen to mine, look at the facts, come to a conclusion that gets us all to the goal line. I do not see that here.
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KevINtampa
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 2:12amBecause they don’t want to face the ever real reality that there’s useful idiots on the Left and Right. Should they do that, they would have to realize they’ve been co-opted by the same Progressive party that propped up both Obama and Romney. There’s no sense in discussing reality with either side. America is lost, they know it, but they are clinging to Hope and Change, this time with Romney. Same ole’ story, same ole’ ball and chain.
I mean just look at the attitude on the Right right now. Name calling people who have backed Paul. Seems to me just two years ago they frowned on such behavior when they were called TEA Baggers. Now, they’ve bought the hype, drank the cool aid, and have shown their true Progressive colors and are acting as such by supporting an overtly obvious Progressive. I’d be laughing it wasn’t so damn sad.
WAKE UP!
Obama vs. Romney is the EXACT same thing as Hogan vs. Savage, the Rock vs. Stone Cold. It’s fake! It’s simple theatrics. Right now the only election is, who sells the Progressive mind set better, Romney or Obama? The winner gets to be the face of the Progressive Party. That’s all this election is about. A moron could see that’s the case. No, I will not vote for either one. I’ll write my own name in first before I’d concede that I think Romney is any different than Obama. Keep on Hoping for Change Romneyites, just know you won’t get it even if your horse wins. Suckers.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 2:34amKevin, I agree, I just posted up above a type of solution, if people are willing to listen, before I read your reply. You are right, we must start acting like responsible voters, gather all evidence, no matter how much we do not like it and come to a decision. What I find on here is that nobody researches what others say, they just call names and say you are wrong, without sharing any proof that someone is wrong. We have to take what people put on here at their word, but research what they have presented, then come back and either say, you are right, or, you are wrong and this is what I found that shows you are wrong. That is what we do in sales and it will work here. Let us find common ground to get Obama out, no matter what that solution is. If it means getting behind another candidate, so be it.
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PutMoreOnMyPlate
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 3:13amAt least Gary Johnson is on the ballot and I would rather pay $8 for gas than see either jerk in the white house. Romney isn’t cutting it with pointless mudslinging and dodging important issues. Supporters have to fill in the blanks with false hope that our debt will just magically disappear. Entitlements need to be drastically reformed and ALL of Obamacare has to go. I will not vote for anything less than this whole nightmare to go away.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 3:29am@PutMoreOnMyPlate, Two of Gary Johnson’s best commercials: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP69507fTKY&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrU6hTWyj6s&feature=player_embedded
He is a better choice for us this election, I agree.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:10amYou would think after the Ross Perot and Ralph Nader debacles that the republicans and democrats would have learned better and fixed the election laws – but they havent
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circleDwagons
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:36am@ skrew. according to you it does not matter which presidential candidate we vote for. The only wasted vote is the none vote. Love and Liberty
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Brother Winston Smith
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:07amI vividly remember the same tactic in 2008. After the FAKE-conservative, FAKE-tea, FAKE-libertarian republican media CHEATED Ron Paul out and John McCain in… Ron Paul was EVERYBODY’S BEST BUDDY AND POLITICAL MENTOR.
Seems as long as Paul cannot DO anything… he suddenly becomes the pinnacle of American grit and wisdom to the LEFTIST media (CNN, FOX, MSNBC, Clearchannel, Townhall, Hotair, Blaze, etc).
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Brother Winston Smith
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:03amFAKE-conservative/libertarian Beck/Blaze,
Please IMMEDIATELY CEASE USING THE NAME RON PAUL. You had MONTHS AND MONTHS to tell the truth about DOCTOR, VETERAN, ECONOMIST, CONSTITUTIONALIST Ron Paul… but you chose to assist in CHEATING him out of presidential nomination with your LEFTIST PROPAGANDA… thus ultimately REELECTING OBAMA in a few months.
DO NOT SAY THE NAME RON PAUL!
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stormking
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:58amWhy do you fools keep saying a vote for Garry Johnson is a vote for Obama? Its my vote! I can vote and sleep soundly at night can you? You guys can waste your vote by voting for Romney just because he isn’t Obama even though the only difference between them is the letter before their name.
A vote for Obama is a vote for out of control big government!
A vote for Romney is a vote for out of control big government!
A vote for Johnson is a vote for liberty, freedom, smaller government and the restoration of the Constitutional Republic for which we are blessed to live in.
I am fully awake and wont be fooled by this 2 party shell game where they appear to present 2 choices even though there is really only one.
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Kenszen
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:03amSimple answer to your question: Because Johnson doesn’t have a chance to get elected. Period. I agree, it is not a wasted vote for you and I respect that and have nothing against you voting your conscience.
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ashestoashes
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:19amThe truth is that no ones votes are going to count..unless they go toward the Rothschild’s pick..Both of the candidates have been picked by them..but only one will they choose to be the puppet..My guess is it will be Obama..because he is awesome at doing those executive orders..and he will finish the work quickly..Since the US became a corporation in the 1860′s..a rogue government is leading us..and that is why they can get away with placing a foreigner in office who has no qualms about destroying us..The Constuttion is still there…and in tact..but the Congress works for the unFederal Reserve..and not for the people..We will quickly be brought into the Communist New World Order.
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american1st
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:22ami dropped my republican party voter registration right after they cut the legs out from under the tea party and Ron Paul supporters at the GOP convention..
- every republican living in a open primary state should do the same!
- every tea party, limited government republican in every other state should do the same! and not worry about switching back till before the next primary…
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Lucifer197666
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:29amThe only reason Johnson is not electable is because you have been told he isn’t… wake up America if we don’t take back our country than Obama/Romney will have won and we will have another 4 years of hell or until the revolution starts
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Sutter Buttes
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:32amIdiot!
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RepubliCorp
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 4:44amLUCIFER197666 90% of America would say “Gary who”? That is why he doesn’t have a chance. You are being unrealistic
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bplumb23
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:51amBut it is their vote. They should use it exactly as they see fit.
It’s unfortunate, but at the same time, depending on where you live your vote isn’t worth as much anyways, it’s just how the electoral college works. And even if you try to make it marginally better then you are worse off, like when a state splits their electoral votes instead of winner take all, then they receive less attention.
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MontaraMissileMan
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:51am10% know who he is, less that 50% are registered to vote. That 10% who know are going to be the most politically active to know the name of a third party candidate. So that means that at least 1/5th of those who are registered at least know who he is and those who know who he is are very likely to vote. We typically see a turn out of around 40% for presidential elections, so that means that the 10% is now 1/4 of the voters at least know who he is.
Voters are split into approximately 1/3 Democrat, 1/3 Republican and 1/3 Independent.
How do you figure that the man isn’t electable with at least 1/4 of the likely voters knowing who he is and doing everything to spread the word to everyone else?
Guess what, you could actually make a difference and get a Libertarian elected which will help put us back on the right path instead of just voting for the Statist you’ve been told to vote for by the Progressive powers that be.
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endgamer
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:34pmI’m with ya on Gary Johnson! He’s the only one that truly supports the Libertarian viewpoint and Dr. Paul’s vision.. See who you side with.. Post your results in this thread with a link.. http://www.isidewith.com/
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endgamer
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:00pmHere are MY http://isidewith.com results.. http://imgs.isidewith.com/results-image/106773028.jpg
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drenfroe
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:45amI have to say Ron Paul is the only one who has stuck to the constitution and our founding fathers ideas. I didn’t really know much about him but the more I see the more I like. Too bad his followers made such a spectacle at the meetings that media had such an easy time black balling him. I would have liked to see him run as an independant for president.
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justangry
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 3:03amThey media black balled him long before his fans did anything different than any other candidates’ supporters.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:42amHere is the problem, I voted for Romney in the primary, but I, along with many Freedom Works Tea Party members will not in the general election. The reason is the way the RNC and Romney campaign treated, not only the Ron Paul supporters, but all Tea Party grassroots organizations across the country. They didn’t even have to do what they did as Romney had the nomination wrapped up. It was like they just did not want the votes. I believe that a lot of blame should be directed at Reince Priebus as his leadership seems to be incompetent and he should be forced to step down. Romney should go on TV and demand that the rule changes, that started all this, be repealed immediately. His polling is going in the dumps and I believe it will get worse. The DNC did the same thing to their delegates at their convention, ignoring the voice of the people. If you want to make change and get rid of all the establishment control over the voice of the people, you need to get together for that purpose. Vote a third party in one time. Send a clear message to both parties that we will not stand by and let our voices be silenced. If, after four years, they get their acts together, we will look at them again. We need to stand strong, not give in to tyranny. Gary Johnson is a Republican with Libertarian leanings, but a Republican all the same. His ideas are not that bad for Republicans. At least give him a listen: http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/
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Taldren
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:39amThere goes crazy uncle Ron … talking sense and the constitution again. Coo-coo
Notice how all the fanb0i Republicans and Democrats can’t disagree with the message and so attack the messenger.
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Sirfoldallot
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:50amI agree w/him on this, most all but foreign .
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ashestoashes
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:34amYou guys who don’t agree with Ron Paul’s foreign policy..I do not understand..China doesn’t medal.. and she has superceded us as a Super Power..Here is a under 5 minute video on 9/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yu00AGWQl1g
Here is a FBI translater on 9/11 who had a gag order placed on her to silence her…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=ylKWivA3B4M&NR=1
We got duped..plain and simple..Oh …I was livid when I first saw the utube vid “Fabled Enemies”.
Our gov issued visas to the men involved..and they were trained at a naval base in Florida..and Bush was briefed on the intent for up to 2 or 3 months prior to its happening..and the Israeli Massad followed said men clear up to the incident and had a front row seat and were high fiving each other when the planes hit..it’s in the Fabled Enemies.. They took our military for murder.. world power.and domination.for the Communist NWO. We have killed over 6 million people in these wars…Ron Paul wanted to bring our troops home and guard our borders..we are spending 338.3 billion on illegals each yr..This is happening for their votes..so what do you think is going to happen when you have that many welfare people voting? You won’t own possessions for very long..Check out the Ayn Rand vid I posted..
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riseandshine
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 2:24am@Ashes….I like the original better…the music at the start just makes it :)
http://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/
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riseandshine
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 2:41am@Ashes….Here’s another one for you :)
http://www.911blogger.com/news/2008-08-27/nist-wtc7-report-parody-video
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justangry
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 3:04amYes, Sirfoldalot agrees with the CFR and Fox on foreign policy.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 3:59amAshes, If we do not get a handle on our foreign policy and start doing things right, this may be what we are looking forward to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJwmzWFfFAQ
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ashestoashes
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 10:22am@RISEANDSHINE..Thanks for the vid
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Mutiny
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:29amThe GOP establishment sheep will look back and regret the Romney choice just like everyone does McCain. I think he is in better shape now after the DNC chaos but good lord a monkey could run against Obama and have the same poll numbers as Romney.
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ashestoashes
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:45am2nd try…Here is an exerpt of David Rockefellers Communist New World Orders memoirs..before 9/11 he said we just needed one major crisis to bring us into the NWO..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZZklPnVs-Y
Here is Ed Griffens thoughts on the left/right paridigm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxDwT55rmIw&feature=player_embedded
And this is Ayn Rand on democracy and how when there are many more welfare recipients than tax payers http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=U5jWCAms2p8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=U5jWCAms2p8
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:13amThe problem is, I dont think the GOP regrets nominating McCain
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stormking
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:27am“With Rep. Paul’s words in mind, and as Election Day draws closer, ask yourself this question: Out of the two men running for the highest office in the nation, who is most likely to expand/restrain the role government plays in the life of the U.S. citizen?”
There is 3 candidates not 2!
You people have got to be kidding me. Why even post a story about Ron Paul? you guys are just big government republicans who masquerade as the tea party and claim you want liberty and freedom. You will vote for whoever you are told to as long as its not Obama. You people honestly believe Romney will be any different than Obama? Sorry i wont buy into the establishment kool-aid and vote for who i’m told to. I’ll be voting for liberty and freedom and wont be sacrificing by integrity by voting for the 3rd party candidate Garry Johnson.
Why all the hate for Ron Paul? He tells it how it is. You guys hate him because he isn’t for unconstitutional wars and thinks we shouldn’t be going around bombing people left and right.
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ashestoashes
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:13amThe truth is that no matter who we want for President..we will only getyhr puppet that the un Federal Reserve has chosen to carry out their plans..After all..the plan to take over the world has been going on since the 1700′s…and we are seeing it played out in full spectrum..Before 9/11 David Rockefeller said that all they needed was one good major crisis to bring about the New World Order..spoken in his memoirs here.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZZklPnVs-Y
This is Ed Griffen..on the left/right paridigm and what most do not understand http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxDwT55rmIw&feature=player_embedded
And here are some opinions of Ayn Rand..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=U5jWCAms2p8
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The-Monk
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:25amI’d like to remind Dr. Paul that he is not a contender for POTUS for 2012.
And any Vote for Dr. Paul or Gary Johnson is a vote for 4 more years of Obama.
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TheSkepticalLibertarian
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:30amDo you watch much Fox News, by any chance?
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Taldren
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:44amI like to remind you that Paul still has millions of supporters … that is millions with a “M” … which means his first amendment right to free speech has far more weight then some guy posting on a forum like yourself.
Also, A vote for Obama is a vote for Obama … if you retards keep pushing away libertarian republicans some of those votes you aren’t going to get anyway might actually make it to Obama out of spite.
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West Coast Patriot
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:00amI know, I know, I said I was gone, but I just could not help it. Romney does not have a chance! Have you been watching the polls? He is going down in flames. I know many Ron Paul supporters and they are not voting for him, period. They will write in Paul’s name or they will vote for Gary Johnson. Romney cannot win without us and if you guys do not Wake Up quickly, you are going to give Obama another four. It will be your fault, not ours as we have warned you. If you would like to hear Dr. Paul’s comments, since The Blaze did not put it on the story, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTmdfYNdlTc&feature=youtu.be
He is right,he has always been right. You guys were wrong. He was forced out through illegal means and Paul supporters will not forget that at the polls. Face it, if you do not act, you will be responsible.
Now I am going away again, unless I see something else I feel that I need to put my two cents in on. Wake Up!
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Kenszen
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:06am@Taldren, that might be true about Paul’s “millions,” but that doesn’t make The-Monk’s opinion any less important and Paul’s opinion more important.
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The-Monk
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:13am@TheSkepticalLibertarian
“Do you watch much Fox News, by any chance?”
Nope. Any other dumb ass questions?
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The-Monk
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:23am@Taldren
“I like to remind you that Paul still has millions of supporters …”
Do they all look as stupid as your avatar? I don’t think so. You look like some kind of OWS POS troll. Most Dr. Paul supporters have more respect in their pinky than you have in your entire body. STFU and go back to your OWS camp. TROLL.
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The-Monk
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:32am@Kenszen
Thank you for being observant. Most here are blinded by their prejudices.
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Taldren
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:31am@The-Monk
When you have to attack an Avatar picture of a 7 year old on Halloween instead of the message then you have lost the argument. Regardless of what our Avatars look like, our votes count just as much as yours, so keep it up chuckle head, and do your best to drive more voters to Obama with your ignorant claims and misplaced fanaticism.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:36am@The-Monk
You have to admit that this statement was 100% correct. Ron Paul was talking about the difference between a democracy and a republic – the same stuff Glenn Beck tries to talk about all the time….But have you EVER heard Mitt Romney say stuff like that?
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SquareHead
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 11:59amThe-Monk
Obama though being one of the worst presidents might be the one to save this nation. Not by policy, but by waking up the American people to our run-away government. Mitt “the democrat” Romney will lull people back to sleep the way that Bush did in 2000, when the conservatives (me included) was soo happy not to have Clinton, that we where not paying attention as he was acting like an unrestrained socialist. We had history electinos in 2010, and we will have this year as well even if Obama wins. For this nation to get out of this mess, we need people that are awake and aware. Obama has stimulated that with his naked Marxism. So my vote will be for Gary Johnson, and I hope millions of other do the same as Mitt will continue the bleeding of our nation, though not at the same speed. Obama is going to have to fact investigations and an even more hostile congress and senate in the 2nd term should he be elected.
Gary Johnson 2012
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Lucci
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:22amLook I am impressed with the guy and the standards he keeps. However, his party is over. It is time to step aside. He ran as a republican, lost, so move on. He needs to check the enormous ego and help save the country from a second term of Obama keeping a watchful eye on Romney after he is elected. Besides, while I agree the conventions are a waste of China’s money, it can also be said that the secret service afforded Congressman Paul also can from China’s loans.
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West Coast Patriot
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:06amSorry, Dr. Paul refused Secret Service protection and said he was a private citizen and if he needed protection, he would pay for it himself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn7Af-tld1w&playnext=1&list=PL30D3F28BC2D5604D&feature=results_main
First aired on the Tonight Show. Funny stuff.
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Skrewedretiree
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:19amRoosevelt split the Republican vote and we got Wilson.
Perot split the Republican vote and we got Clinton.
Paul wants to split the Republican vote and guarantee another 4 years of Obama.
Can it be any plainer?
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RepubliCorp
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 4:03amBINGO! If Paul had a brain he would back Romney in exchange for some influence. The Bots all or nothing approach isn’t how the world works. It took years for commies like Obama to gain power. The Bots think that they are taking some high moral ground but they walk away from the table without a slice of the pie. By just spewing his righteous indignation Ron Paul has always failed to grasp the brass ring……… All mouth, No show
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dissentnow
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:03am@Lucci
“it can also be said that the secret service afforded Congressman Paul also can from China’s loans”
He actually rejected the secret service protection, calling it a “form of welfare”. You should look it up.
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SquareHead
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:03pmI am sure that ignorance is bliss. Getting your fill from Rush Limbaugh, Fox News and The Blaze, don’t get me wrong, when I was drinking the cool aid, I was happier not knowing the whole truth.
Gary Johnson 2012, or Obama for a 2nd term of gridlock.
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Maxim Crux
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:05amWho is the guy looking into the camera in the background. Is he the picture police?
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grayling646
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:16amNo, that’s Kilroy.
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Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:56pmand here is the thing – the founders were nothing like libertarians… the libertarian name means nothing of liberty- the individual over the people yeah right
the founders would absolutely hunt down libertarians…
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Mutiny
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:07amProof?
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West Coast Patriot
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:10am“If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.” – Ronald Reagan
I suppose you disagree with this Ron also.
Glenn Beck even said that Ron Paul was more like our founding fathers than any other candidate in the race.
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Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:54pmbout time someone calls america what it is- a republic..
anyways all the righties do is use spurious quotes from the founders-
republican form of government= the people owns the means of production= government
all republicans do open treason… starve the beast starve the republic
all conservatives republicans are traitors… and will be rounded up sooner or later for high-treason
its just a matter of time before a populace “real republicanist” comes along
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drenfroe
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:51pmThats the problem neither of them will and this is what the people want. We really are going to have to fall to get this turned back since none of the leaders will listen to what is really needed. Taxes gives them more to carry on as usual, the people the parties choose are carry on as usual big spenders. None of them even believe it can be done differently than what they’ve always known. They dont believe in history. When they say smaller government they mean as was in this last election not as founding fathers times. If our country is to be great again we have to go back to American way and the original way. They warned us and we ignored thinking we knew better and were more progressed than founding fathers but we were wrong. The parties are wrong and they are too fat gone.
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v15
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:44pmEvery white supremacist group in America has Ron Paul’s cell number on speed dial.
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Coralchristie
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:01amI have read Ron Paul’s book and listened carefully to what he and other candidates have said. What he is quoted as saying in this article are true. It disturbs me every time I hear someone refer to this country as a democracy because I know that the Founders knew that democracies don’t work. This is supposed to be a Constitutional Republic and as such is the safest way to preserve citizens’ rights. Don’t dismiss what Ron Paul says. He actually has it right!
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sonsofliberty
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:40amOlberman is that you?
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dissentnow
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:57am@V15
Don’t you have a softball game that you should be getting to, Ms. Maddow?
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LibertarianForLife
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:41pmI hope most Ron Paul supporters will join me in voting for Obama. Don’t prolong the bankruptcy of this country. Mitt would kick the can down the road a few years, but it is inevitable, as he is a corportist at heart. The quicker we get this over this, the more time in our lives we have to rebuild the republic.
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resme
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:44pmHow about not voting? Here’s one of my favorite comedians George Carlin “Why I don’t vote”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk
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GodFearingMama
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:48pmIt’s probably going to happen no matter who’s in office.. You sure you want O behind the wheel when we crash?
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resme
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:53pm@god, The same people who back O, Back R.
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Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:55pmThat’s a dumb idea….It doesn’t make any sense at all….I don’t really keep track of who is who on these boards, so I don’t know how you usually post, and if you are a libertarian, i say good luck with it (not really), and i hope you fail at what you are suggesting, but it sounds more to me like you are posing as a libertarian trying to try to get people to look at us in a bad light…..
If this comment makes no sense then you truly don’t get it….It’s bigger than black and white.
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riseandshine
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:59pmNot a chance, Libertarian For Life…..I’ll be voting for the Constitution Party….Great platform.
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Coralchristie
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:07amIf voting for Obama would only destroy us financially, I believe that I could understand why you’d vote for him BUT…I believe that we will be in complete and utter bondage if we do have him for four more years and only the bloodiest of revolutions would ever unseat him and his minions.
I will vote for Romney and do all that I can to move more congresspersons who uphold the Constitution into prominence.
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Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:09amMy suggestion is to have the biggest protest vote in history. I hope to stand in line for a while to pull the lever.
Not voting doesn’t solve anything. Protest votes might not win (but they probably could if enough people protest voted the same person) but it will surely send a message if enough people do it. We would need millions of protest votes. It would say…We are not with anyone no matter which party i am a part of if our candidates are going to ignore Liberty and the constitution.
There are lots of people who speak of liberty or death, and willing to do what it takes to save our republic, but will you get off your rumps and at least go to the voting booth and pull a lever….It is simple enough, and it is a first step in restoring our republic.
Don’t sit this one out….This is an election that holds a ton of weight…make something of it…Show up at the polling stations protest vote if that is what you want to do…it will for sure send a shock wave across the political elite society..They have no idea what we think, or how many of us there are….Forget the outcome of who wins…it will most likely be Robomney…vote for what you desire…
I’ll be voting for Johnson. Was going to write in Paul but i think because Johnson will be on the ballot he will have a better shot…vote how you wish,,,but vote….Don’t sit this one out…
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circleDwagons
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:48am@ L.4life. you make an exellent point for voting for 0. i think voting for romney has it’s merit, romney will be the same ol’ same and the media will attack him and the repuds.
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alphamattic
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 4:31pmThe problem is you make the false assumption that we would rebuild another constitutional republic if our country collapses (defined here as some sort of financial default). With so many Americans already hooked on the heroin that is other people’s money, it seems to me that it is more logical to assume that whomever had political power when the collapse happened would desperately try to rebuild some sort of socialistic/collectivist centrally planned society even more authoritarian than the one it replaced.
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Kenszen
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:36pmWhat he said was true, but all I can say is thanks for the lecture, Ron Paul. Your delivery is left wanting.
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:38pm…and as we all know in 2012 delivery is much more important than content in politics.
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Kenszen
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:11am@Roth, I think content is paramount, but, no, mine was more of a comment on the way Ron Paul’s supporters tend to be acerbic, fatalistic, and many times militant in any of their commentary on comment boards and actions around my city. Their attitudes are only reflective of what their “great leader” condones, in my opinion.
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:34pmQueue all the “conservatives” who could give a crap about a constitution. Let’s see “Paulbots” will be in there somewhere, some “shut up”‘s, a few “you lost now leave”, some more “just vote for Obama then”….and not one will actually address what he said and what the constitution says.
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Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:48pmHammer meets head of nail!!
Right on!
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MFHorn3
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:50amThank you.
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mharry860
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:29pmI wish Romney had Ron Paul’s guts and understanding of our Constitution.
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USA-Ron
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 4:11amAmen
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13th Imam
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:27pmThanks, King of Earmarks
We didn’t know that the US is a republic.
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:36pmCorrection: it WAS. It no longer is.
Also, just to clarify…he votes against all of his earmarks.
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Psychosis
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:41pmhe is kinda forced to play the hand dealt him pertaining to “earmarks”
though none of his proposed earmarks ever were designed to bring him personal gain, unlike many other politicians, though admittedly that doesnt even make the ones he asked for right
it is the way our current system is designed, and being thus, forces one to play or be left on the sidelines
im no paulbot, but the man is very right on this ( too bad his foreign policy, though correct if it was 200 yrs ago BEFORE we involved ourselves in everything around the world, is not compatible with today’s reality
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resme
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:49pm@13th, Obviously Romney doesn’t.
“Democracy is not defined by a vote. There have to be the underpinnings of democracy: education, health care, people recognizing they live in a place that has the rule of law. And that’s why our effort to spread democracy should continue, not to just spread votes, but instead to encourage other people in the world to have the benefits that we enjoy and to welcome democracy. There’s no question in this country, we need to reach out, not just with our military might–although that we have, and should keep it strong–but also reach out with our other great capabilities.” – Mitt Romney 8/5/2007 Des Moines, IA debate
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Shasta
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:38amPaul adds the earmarks to make his constituents happy He votes against them to make the bots happy, And in the end, his earmarks pass. It is a twisted sick game, just like every other politician plays. Sick of it.
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LuvsYeshua
Posted on September 10, 2012 at 11:25pmI can’t disagree with anything he said. These conventions have left sane people sick to their stomach and has fed the zombies even further.
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TheSkepticalLibertarian
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 12:29am“I can’t disagree with anything he said!” – Voted for Romney because Ron Paul wasn’t “Limbaugh / O’Reilly / Beck approved.” Wake. Up. People.
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