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Taliban Releases ‘Victorious’ 9/11 Message: ‘Everyone Considers It Their Right to Kill’ Americans

Sep. 11, 2012 5:52pm Tiffany Gabbay

On the 11th anniversary of the September 11th attacks, the face of militant Islam has spoken and its words are as chilling as ever. Following a recent hacking of the Taliban’s websites, the radical Islamic group began using social media to spread its propaganda. In a statement dated September 9, 2012, the Taliban addressed America as it mourned the loss of its countrymen. Using “TwitLonger,” a new social media service that allows tweets longer than the typical 140 characters allowed by Twitter, the militants mocked the U.S., claimed victory in Afghanistan and declared their country an “Islamic Emirate.”

Below is a full transcription, courtesy of MEMRI:

“It has now been eleven years since oppression was unleashed upon the miserable Afghan people and fire lit in our homeland at the hands of America under the disguise of retaliation for the September incident. The anniversary of 9/11 is approaching America this year at a time when it is facing utter defeat in Afghanistan militarily, politically, economically and in all other facets and it has exhausted all other means through which to prolong its illegal war.

“The war declared on Muslims and Islam by America eleven years ago under this pretext has with the divine help of Allah (SWT) lost all its power and the criminal warmongers are fleeing the battle ground one after the other. Although the blood of hundreds of Afghans was shed by this illegal and unjust crusade, however the invading Americans and its deluded-by-propaganda coalition was also handed unequivocal defeat and thousands of their troops were killed.

“The oppressed but valiant Afghan nation, in defense of their country and religion, proved through their sacred struggle and jihad that the invasion under the pretext of retaliation for the September incident has no legal or ethical bases. Every action that you take in this path only displays your brutality, oppression, savagery and arrogance because the Afghans have had no hand in the 9/11 incident and neither have you been able to provide any legitimate or logical proofs. Your presence in Afghanistan under this illegal pretext is the reason for the unrest in this entire region and is related directly to the insecurity, political and military problems faced by America and her ensnared allies.

“Despite America spending large amounts of military and economic… assets under the title of homeland security and murdering thousands of its soldiers by the hands of Afghans, however no American is safe in any society today; rather they are discriminated against in every country and region and everyone considers it their right to kill them since they have oppressed all and have endangered the security of the entire world for their own advancement

“The Islamic Emirate, on the eleventh anniversary of the September incident, once again calls upon the American officials, its coalition members and its people to halt shedding the blood of the oppressed Afghans under this pretext and to follow the path of sound reasoning instead of tyranny and stupidity.

“Availing this moment, the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan once again clarifies to the entire world including America that we are neither a threat to anyone nor will we let our soil be used to harm anyone. It is our due legal and religious right to defend our homeland and establish in it an Islamic system and we shall continue with our sacred struggle and jihad against the invaders until we attain this right and we sincerely believe in being victorious in achieving this ambition and defeating the enemy.”

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PhineasJWhoopee
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:59pm
There will never be peace as long as a single diaper headed, muslim durka durka walks the planet.

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- SHOOTnCRASH
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:17pm
  That is sooo horribly racist of you and I couldn’t agree more. Ive had it with these mofos and the left that loves them.
  
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- Exrepublisheep
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:25pm
  @SHOOTNCRASH. You mean the left that has killed more of them in 4 years than the right did in 8? The left who killed Bin Laden? The left who continues to take out terrorist leaders? THAT left?
  
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- whatthecrazy
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:37pm
  @sheep YUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
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- armyofnibiru
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:41pm
  hey rubish,the left have allied themselves with the muslum brotherhood who gave birth to al-quiata.waged war on the constitution.and if they have to will throw anyone under the bus including osama.what religion kills more muslims than all the others?ISLAM for they are not muslum enough if they do not want to kill EVERYONE who is not muslum.if you don’t say islam is a peaceful religion they CUT YOUR HEAD OFF. now thats a peaceful group for ya
  
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- db321
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:41pm
  Bring it Taliban. You go ahead and put on your big boy turban on and jump on your camel and let’s get it on. Tired of your flapping lip.
  
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- whatthecrazy
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:50pm
  @DB too funny
  
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- Leadthemtothelight
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:50pm
  1.5 Billion in foreign aid to Egypt who is probably even now laughing all the way to the bank while they link arms with Iran and plot dead americans in the street. Way to go Obama and dimocrats!
  
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- v15
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:51pm
  @Phineasjwhoopie, I agree with you. There won’t be peace as long as there are Muslims in the world. Hell, even if Islam was destroyed, then I still believe people would have something else to fight about.
  
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- pissantno.10
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:02pm
  oh sheep dip how about the troop loses that dont get reported any more . and sheep dip whos killling them it would have to be some one with guts. not a panty waste like you
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:06pm
  Exrepublisheep
  
  You mean the left that has killed more of them in 4 years than the right did in 8? The left who killed Bin Laden? The left who continues to take out terrorist leaders? THAT left?
  ***
  I think more Al Qaeda & other jihadis were killed in Iraq from 2003 to 2008 than from 2009 t0 2011 when Obama announce a hasty pullout & kept a people more in base camps.
  
  Did you really walk that dog?
  
  BTW it is easier to conduct drone strikes as a leftists than as a Republican having the G*dd*mn left harping on civilian casualties. Those civilians are probably the wives & children of the jihadis that had no compunction against killing civilians including women & children on 911 or since then.
  
  Charting the data for US airstrikes in Pakistan, 2004 – 2012
  http://www.longwarjournal.org/pakistan-strikes.php
  
  P.S. When I look at Bush vs. Obama I am looking 8 years of All Qaeda casualties in Iraq, Yemen & Afghanistan & the Phillipines. O-Boy was never in the Phillipines & he pulled out of Iraq with his tail between his legs yelping like a mangy cur.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:23pm
  I have nothing to contribute ethnicity bashing wise. I will only say that anybody who feels that I am open season, as an American, can come up to me anywhere on the streets here and try to kill me. I assure you, I am a free man and am armed with fearsome weaponry on a daily basis.
  
  Now the question is, do they mean kill as in “face your victim” or do they mean kill as in “hide like sniveling cowards and strike from afar”? I think we all know the answer to that.
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:29pm
  @GhostOfJefferson
  
  Though I doubt we agree on much, I will gladly on 9/11 stand with you on that comment. Let those mothers bring it on, I know for a fact we’ve got better guns than they do.
  
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- Palmer1943
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:34pm
  Careful now your talking about Sheik Obama and Comrade Eric Holders peeps.
  
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- The-Obama-Romney-Ticket
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:39pm
  Actually, there is a future for the blood-thristy Satanic-death-ideology of Islam … and it is a bloody mess:
  
  http://www.endtime.com/blog/2-billion-to-die-in-world-war-3/
  
  “2 Billion to Die in World War 3 … ‘And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for TO SLAY THE THIRD PART OF MEN.’ (Revelation 9:15) … This time, there won’t be 8.2 million dead [WW1]. There won’t be 52 million dead [WW2]. This time 2 BILLION human beings will be annihilated from the face of the earth! We are talking about 40 times the fatalities of World War II! … According to Revelation 9:14, the prophesied war will originate from the area of the Euphrates River [all ISLAMIC dominated territory!]. The Euphrates River is located in Iraq, Turkey, Syria, and Iran.
  
  “When will it happen?
  
  “According to the biblical prophetic timeline given in scripture, four major prophetic fulfillments will occur at approximately the same time.
  * The international community’s adoption of a peace plan for the Middle East
  * The building of Israel’s temple on the Temple Mount
  * Preparations being made for the implementation of the mark of the beast
  * The Euphrates River War”
  
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- Wolfgang the Gray
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:41pm
  They are so brave, as they hide behind their veils to mask their identity. I say fine, pull all our troops out of Afghanistan tomorrow. Take every single piece of equipment that we brought there. Don’t give their country another penny for anything, for the rest of time. They can be their own country and life the glamorous life of a third-world nation. We have better things to do than try to help people that don’t want our help and try to kill us for trying to help them.
  
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- Individualism
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:01pm
  The only people they have the right to kill if the people responsible behind the invasion and murder of their people. Not average American folks that have nothing to do with it and are getting screwed by their goverment to.
  
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- pissantno.10
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:12pm
  now wolf how is obama going to fund is army if we lieve . he needs this place to funnel money to is people
  
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- dmerwin
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 10:23pm
  And we reserve the right to reciprocate. The money we GIVE to these people should ALL be spent on birth control to include retroactive abortion. Makes the liberal women of America happy and me too.
  
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- dmerwin
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 10:24pm
  Lined up like that, looks like target practice.
  
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- Exrepublisheep
  Posted on September 12, 2012 at 12:10am
  @BOB_R_OATHKEEPER. It’s irrelevant what Bush did or didn’t do. It’s Obama who said “pull the trigger”. Part of the rights attack machine is how Obama blames Bush for everything, but here you’re giving credit for something you have no clue about. Your ignorance is irritating you to the point of calling out people who are, obviously, more informed than you.
  
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- Bohump
  Posted on September 12, 2012 at 11:16am
  Maybe Barry, ..Will Send Them A little more MONEY
  
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- MIBUGNU2
  Posted on September 12, 2012 at 12:12pm
  Soooooo, these AH’s wanna’ play “Cowboys and Muslimes” HUH ??
  
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- FatFreedom
  Posted on September 12, 2012 at 2:25pm
  Close the borders to the middle east. We just ask ourselves, why do these people hate us?
  
  I have heard the following 4 reasons:
  
  1. We are successful.
  Why don’t they also attack Switzerland and Japan, South Korea and Norway then?
  
  2. Hollywood and immorality
  . This one I can understand being that 90% of what comes out of there is filth. Though I opt for not watching. But what about the French, English, German movies?
  
  3. We have killed 1-1.5million Arabs in the last 11 years. Could that be a reason? Hmm..
  
  4. CIA have been meddling in the Middle East for 60 years.
  We have been over throwing elected officials and armed revolutions and propped up Mubarack, Osama in the early years, and Saddam Hussain, and Gadaffi, and then later helped overthrow them.. Could that really be a reason to be mad? Hmmm.
  
  All I hear from lame stream media including Fox, & TheBlaze and talk radio is reason 1 and 2, without ever talking about 3 and 4, which is the only thing that explains to me why we have not see attacks in other nations. But No, we are being stirred up to hate Muslims and Arabs, and suppose to celebrate killing 1 million people, while calling oneself Christian!!! That is absurd.
  
  I have a problem with Islam and it is No religion of peace, and the idiot Bush was telling us, in fact the jihadist are the once that are following the Koran. But why did we not have any attacks during the first 200 years of our Nation?
  
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- dmerwin
  Posted on September 12, 2012 at 9:35pm
  FatFreedom
  As to item 1. they are becoming a majority in some of those countries and once we are gone they will be easy pickings.
  As to the last paragraph. To the extent that their technology allowed they did interrupt international trade via the “Barbary Pirates” the reason we developed a national navy. Most of these countries did not have the economic infrastructure to even control their own people until the 1940′s and oil. Rest assured they have been involved with changing the world since Mohammed.
  
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- Secret Squirrel
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:22am
  .
  And when they are done killing and spreading mus-hate,
  in the end they will have nothing more than goat sex.
  Maybe that’s why they cover their faces, don’t scare the goats.
  That is the final truth. If you want to live in the 12th century,
  go ahead. You muslims should be ashamed of your brothers.
  
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- Secret Squirrel
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:29am
  Fatfreedom:
  You claim: “We have been over throwing elected officials … and propped up … Gadaffi, and then later helped overthrow them”.
  
  So they hated us for propping up Gadaffi, and then they hated us for overthrowing him.
  They don’t know anything but hate.
  
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Tri-ox
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:58pm
Hey – who gave them permission to read from obama’s teleprompter?

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- PhineasJWhoopee
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:08pm
  He will read it himself after the election when he has more “flexibility”.
  For now his brothers will have to say what he thinks.
  
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- RepubliCorp
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:47pm
  They would love us if the enocons had voted for Ron Paul
  
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easyD
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:52pm
I’m happy to know the one I call savior did not ride in a chariot with a risen sword, overthrowing villages and cities, cutting off the heads of those who refuse to convert, enslaving women and children. Don’t we call that a warlord?

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- ashestoashes
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:13pm
  I don’t think that Jesus would have ridden into a country to slaugher 6 million people either..
  
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- armyofnibiru
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:28pm
  yeah but mohamud would,and enslave the women and rape all the children who do not have a beard since he doe’s not consider them men.oh,and living in the 6th century must have been heaven,until we bombed them into the 19th century.slavery is hated by the left,unless the masters are mooslim.
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:25pm
  So because you think Mohammed would do this, it is justifiable for you and the government of our country to do the same?
  
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KINGRUDDY
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:51pm
Evidence our leaders have their heads in the sand, looking for the Politically Correct answer.
Who are we kidding, these people have only one interest…..kill all infadels……..our leadership thinks we are doing well with relations and all that BS.
Please wake up America and stop the PC nonsense and defend our country, our people, our solidiers and call the Radical Islam followers and leaders exactly what they are….Murderers and our BIGGEST enemy EVER!!!!
God Bless these United States and our heros who defend the Greatest Nation ever!

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I SPY
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:51pm
Just start using our mini nukes. People will start to listen, or better yet, just shut up already.

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- JohnQTaxpayer
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:24pm
  I can see the news story now “USA nukes the Taliban”
  
  Damage estimates are in the 1 to 2 dollar range
  
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- momrules
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:02pm
  JohnQTaxpayer……….Thank you for my first real LOL moment of the day. Absolutely hilarious.
  
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TADTAD
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:47pm
Muslims should be honored by assisting them immediately in their goal to greet and service Satan, er, Allah. I regret that hatred is not a strong enough word describing my views towards that group. Forgive me, God, for feeling that way, and I know it is a sin; however, I do believe You’ll let this one go.

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christos
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:40pm
Thanks to +JESUS+GOD+ Divine Providence we have it so good here let’s keep building on the Good,,,,I know in my Heart +JESUS+GOD+ has Mitt Romney placed here at this time to Lead our Country,,,Romney/Ryan 2012.

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- ashestoashes
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:18pm
  Oh yes..I am sure that Mitt Romney is our “Saviour”..Here is what Mormons believe..
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q6brMrFw0E
  And this is from where they get their beginnings..reeks of the Rothschilds who funded them and the JW’s in the early 19th century.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65dzIuGZf5w
  We have 2 anti-Christs from which to choose in November..
  
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- 2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:48pm
  That’s getting old Ashes. Why don’t you take your uninformed hatred and bigotry, fold it up in your kufi and then shove it all up your “ash”?
  
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- armyofnibiru
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:00pm
  a$$es to a$$es,you are a cartoon.jesus crist of ladder day saints.are what they call themselves. the people who hate them called them mormans.you know the people who tried to hunt and murder them out of existance for being different.in missouri you couldn’t hunt down and kill a blackman or anyone else,except a jesus christ of lds could be hunted down and murdered legaly until 1972 [state law].stop the hate.and don’t get all your facts from cartoons.or I”ll unleash my uncle yosemity sam on you.sasafrasen rabbit.
  
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- ashestoashes
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:58pm
  2 Minutes and Army.. I don’t hate Mormons..Some of my favorite people are Mormons..but that doesn’t mean that I will sell my soul to vote for one.. Besides the fact that they are not Christians..Mitt Romney is a liar and a liberal..He created Obamacare..supports the taking of our Constitutional freedoms through the Patriot Act and NDAA..supports higher taxation..supports big Corporations and the Federal Reserve.has initiated gun control..has supported gay marriage and abortion and has recently said he would support aspects of Obamacare..actually charged more for Romneycare than what Obama was going to charge.and is supported just like Obama by Goldman Sachs..and I hope you boys don’t think that you are the only ones reading The Blaze..there are millions of readers out there..so if I reach just one person..so be it..
  
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- ashestoashes
  Posted on September 12, 2012 at 12:36am
  One more thing “boys” I have had other Mormons confirm what I have learned and posted..They may tell me that I didn’t ‘hold my mouth just right” when I said it..and they might have couched it in a little more psychogically easier terms to swallow..because they do want to tell you themselves..because it’s just so much easier to sell that way..but facts are facts..and Mormonism is just as manmade..as Islam.. They are both counterfeit religions.. 2nd Corinthians 11:3-4, “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.”
  
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daniel3839
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:39pm
Islam. Nothing but parasites on humanity.

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sriser1
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:39pm
Introduce the ALL to allah.

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garbagecanlogic
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:36pm
HEY, no problem, I checked our list and found taiban to be at the top of it for us to kill. We sure do not want to discriminate. I’ll bet ya a lollipop that we win though. Whoops, look out behind ya, I think I saw a Seal Team Six member coming. Run – like hell!!

Praise Be To Obama. Psalm 109:8

The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
The U.N. Out Of The U.S.

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welovetheUSA
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:35pm
Please come to our house first……..

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Walkabout
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:33pm
Afghanistan is now a bad war according to the pusillanimous left.

1. We had a right to go after Osama & Al Qaeda.
2. When the Taliban refused to extradite Osama for trial we had a right to go get him & overthrow the Taliban.
3. The Taliban & the Taliban were jointed at the hip.

3a. Al Qaeda provided the Taliban a crack brigade of soldiers.

“The 055 Brigade (or 55th Arab Brigade) was an elite guerrilla organization sponsored and trained by Al Qaeda that was integrated into the Taliban army between 1995 and 2001″

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/055_Brigade

3b. Al Qaeda assassinated one of the 2 biggest most effective rebel leaders against the Taliban

“Massoud was assassinated by two Arab suicide bombers, allegedly belonging to Al-Qaeda, in Afghanistan’s Takhar Province on September 9, 2001, just two days before the September 11 attacks”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_of_Panjshir
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/ASMassoud.html

Al Qaeda could exit without the Taliban. It could not exists as effectively or be as large without it. That makes the Taliban culpable & why they must be defeated.

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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:33pm
And the idiot of the white house declared not long ago we are making progressin defeating terrorism and the taliban?

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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:57pm
  Yes the idiot who has killed more terrorists than Our 42nd President? You may not like him but that is a solid, indisputable fact no matter what side of the aisle you’re on.
  
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Hickory
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:29pm
I figure about 10 of our 10 mega tonners would solve this problem.

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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:26pm
The Dangers of Legitimizing Muslim Grievances:

“There is no surer path to Muslim violence than through the legitimization of Muslim grievance. And once you accept the legitimacy of the grievance, then you are also bound to accept the legitimacy of the violence that follows.

Violence begins with grievance. Grievance is the pretext for violence and the narrative for the violence. Liberals and Libertarians make a fetish of separating the grievance from the violence, emphasizing constructive means of resolving the grievance. But what do you do when the grievance and the violence are inseparable?

Grievance is the stories that Muslims tell themselves to justify their violence. To explain why they kill children and why they murder the innocent. The list of grievances is an endless as the violence. Every act of violence carries its own narrative. The endless Muslim conflicts throughout the world all carry their burden of history. But it isn’t a history that can be resolved with a tolerance session.

Since no Muslim should ever have to live under the unjust rule of infidels, there is always a cause for war and a fifth column waiting to rise up and demand their right to rule over everyone else. And the war is endless… its origins written in blood on the pages of Islamic scripture.

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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:30pm
  Grievance was at the root of Mohammed’s conquests. His “I was minding my own business, preaching a totalitarian ideology that said non-Muslims are inferior dogs when someone made fun of me, so of course I had them killed and fought a war and enslaved their descendants for all time” narrative. Poor innocent me.
  
  Muslims must believe themselves to be moral, or accept that they are mass murderers fighting wars and destroying civilizations. And they need us to accept their narrative, to view them as moral actors resisting oppression and injustice– rather than monsters spreading pain, hate and fear in formerly peaceful places. While we may not be able to prevent them from believing their lies, accepting their lies deludes us and them… and directly feeds violence.
  
  When Americans keep repeating that Islamophobia is a major problem, Muslims treat this as an admission of guilt and a justification for violence. When Europeans accept that freedom of speech should take a back seat to Muslim sensitivities, then Muslims hold it up as proof that they don’t really believe in freedom of speech and that those who insist on it are not following principles, but are deliberately agitating against Muslims.”
  
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- momrules
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:57pm
  Well said Time_2………Oh my, very, very well said.
  
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- Wool-Free Vision
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:06pm
  Amen, sir. I couldn’t have said it better myself. This truth is the number one reason why I refuse to be suckered into Ron Paul’s camp. Appeasement is a defeatist strategy which is self-fulfilling in that it always ends in defeat.
  
  Paulbots, don’t bother claiming his foreign policy isn’t appeasement, because you’re wrong. Chamberlain wasn’t talking about giving away Britain when he chose to appease the nazis. No, he was simply throwing their allies under the bus in the hope that when Hitler was done taking the rest of Europe he would just give up the goal of total domination because Chamberlain had kissed the ring.
  
  Ron Paul’s foreign policy equates to Chamberlain’s foreign policy, and it is anathema to everything this nation is about. We don’t tell our allies to take a hike when things get tough, HELL NO. What kind of America do you want to live in? I want to live in an America that not only has honor and promotes truth, justice, and liberty, but which also calls out tyranny and addresses it head-on when it rears its ugly head.
  
  There is plenty of tyranny, and we can address it diplomatically when it doesn’t directly affect our nation or our allies. But when the tyrant is rattling his saber on a daily basis and threatening genocide against not only our allies but us as well, while frantically developing the means with which to carry out that threat, it is idiotic to hole up and wait for the storm to pass.
  
  Dumb, defeatist appeasement = death and dishonor.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:20pm
  WOOL. agreed. Ron Paul doesn’t remember the 1970s.
  
  Wouldn’t it be great if we had a President who followed Ron Paul’s suggestions? One who stopped supporting certain bad dictators, and withdrew US aid from them?
  
  Of course, we did have such a President who pursued the policies Ron Paul advocates. His name was Jimmy Carter, and the result of his withdrawl of support in Iran was …
  
  The Iranian Revolution of 1979!
  
  This is, among other reasons, why I call Ron Paul an naive,,, or just a plain idiot. It’s one thing to say, in a principled manner, that perhaps we ought not support bad people like the Shah (who was the lesser of three evils, but certainly was no angel) and accept whatever follows. At times, we may be tempted to embrace the same view.
  
  But it’s quite another thing to suggest that the Revolution of ’79 was primarily a result of American involvement in Iran. Indeed, the lesson should be the opposite. From the 1940s onward (and probably before), extremist Shia Ayatollahs have been chomping at the bit to impose their vision upon Iran. They simply took the first opportunity they had… provided by the very policy Paul recommends.
  
  It’s nice to view the world as a giant curio cabinet… everything is where it is because we put it there, or accidentally knocked it over. But the world isn’t like that: it’s more like a huge chessboard with many players. When we stop playing, when we withdraw, things don’t magically get better…
  
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- Individualism
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:04pm
  stop invading their country and they won’t get their victory of financially collapsing the united states like the ussr. thanks to neo cons, these folks might get their victory and it will be up to second amendment using americans to take out the nutjobs that attack normal americans for the actions of criminals in our goverment.
  
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- Individualism
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:06pm
  1979 in Iran wasn’t a bad thing for anyone, its what those folks wanted, they want to be muslim even though to you its a cruddy way of life. that was one of the few things Carter did right and Obama is somewhat doing right by not attacking them.
  
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whatthecrazy
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:23pm
These people were not worth ONE loss of life,no one should die for these Godless heathens………..

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- kickagrandma
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:38pm
  JESUS did.
  
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- whatthecrazy
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:47pm
  @grand a good one, i wasnt thinking.keep us on our toes girl.Thanks
  
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- PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:10pm
  Yes, bring our strong brave men home. These people are not worth our blood and treasure and never will be. Let the tribes blow each other up over their ignorant differences and stop letting them into this country.
  
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Murkman
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:21pm
This is news?

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- 2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:30pm
  Why is there always some one in every line of comments who says “Is this news?” or “Why does the Blaze run these stories?” If you don’t like the stories on the Blaze – go somewhere else. Its not that difficult to figure out. Do you have a web browser? Use it.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:36pm
  To the left it is.
  
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- armyofnibiru
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:14pm
  2 minutes, he only ment that this story is 1400 years old.thats not new.and when did the muslums declare war on the US?1776.but they declared war on the non muslum world 1400 years ago when the so called mohamud supposedly lived.who was the gingus kahn of his day.
  
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- 2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:32pm
  If I misinterpreted murkmans statement, I sincerely apologize.
  
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intercepter
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:13pm
we should have left that region a few years ago,,I am not one who likes the cut and run but there is no end game where we come out winning ,I am to the point now where we should just send as many to allah as we can,they don’t want civility there and they never did ,just a bunch of tribes that co-exist and we are their greater threat ,so they won’t ever stop til we are gone then they can go back to fighting with each other for the next hundred years

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- kaydeebeau
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:46pm
  I will modify your statement just a bit – we should have left this region in ruins – used the WWII war model for victory rather than the Viet Nam tactic of politeness
  
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502_eagle
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:11pm
We should have nuked them. Turned the country of Afghanistan in Lake Afghanistan. Would have sent a message to the rest of these nutjobs.

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- OldGringo
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:15pm
  It’s never too late to act
  
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- 2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:21pm
  I will second that.
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:31pm
  Yes, ‘send a message’ to ‘these nutjobs’ by completely decimating a country, I hope you’re being satirical because that sort of craziness has no part in American discourse. I can’t really say much for the people who bothered to agree with that ridiculous statement.
  
  I do hope though that none of you ever claim to be pro-life in any way.
  
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- 502_eagle
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:31pm
  Well let’s pull our troops and send over a wing of B-2′s. Obama wants to reduce our inventory of warheads anyway, here’s his chance.
  
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- FREEDOMoverFEAR
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:35pm
  Women in this country would never accept that and they make up almost half of the voters.
  
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- thibx
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:35pm
  me too
  
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- 502_eagle
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:40pm
  RobbieTLHughie
  
  Grow up.
  
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- Zorba53
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:41pm
  As an old D. I. said about another of America’s enemies “Kill ‘em all and let God sort them out!” In this case to be politically correct, let allah sort them!!!
  
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- 2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:01pm
  The old “I do hope though that none of you ever claim to be pro-life in any way” argument is a classic. If you can’t see the difference between killing innocent babies and killing savages who are intent on killing us, you have problems with reason and logic.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:56pm
  RobbieTLHughie
  
  This tactic has worked since the dawn of time. You do it once & all the other countries don’t frac with you anymore.
  
  Usually you open up a military campaign that way. You raze the 1st 2 cities that give you resistance & then the next 10 offer no resistance.
  
  I am game for doing it the so called ‘civilized’ way, as long as the left doesn’t ham string us & don’t cut the funds.
  
  Capiche?
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:58pm
  You just advocated destroying an entire country, that’s like a child playing with a magnifying glass who just discovered that you can melt them with the power of the almighty sun. Apologies if caring for human life doesn’t span to brown folks in far away places.
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:00pm
  2Minutestomidnight
  
  You can’t possibly be implying that babies in Afghanistan are savages? Because you do know that there are people living there other than crazed, froth-mouthed terrorists… Right?
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:01pm
  If you honestly, HONESTLY think that the way to deal with an incredibly dangerous but incredibly sparse and relatively small group of fanatic religious zealots is to glass an entire country, than I’m really glad people like Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan don’t agree with everything you say.
  
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- 502_eagle
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:20pm
  I bet you were also insulted by those cartoons proposing that the twin towers be rebuilt as one massive structure 400 stories tall that was a hand flipping the bird.
  
  Maybe you should be post on the racist PB&J thread since PC is so dear to you.
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:21pm
  No, I think that sounds like a great idea, actually.
  
  And that’s a cute little dismissal but you’re already assigning positions to me! Not fair, man!
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:25pm
  But really, don’t assign positions to people you don’t know (at all, actually…) I would gladly strangle the mother-f**kers who killed innocent people on 9/11 and the people behind it BUT, I do not support the government up and scorching an entire country because I feel that way, that’s irrational and emotional response and if we had people like that in our government, that would be very dangerous.
  
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- 502_eagle
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:34pm
  You were the one who threw a fit over LAKE Afghanistan.
  
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- 2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:41pm
  Although not total destruction, a few well placed nukes seemed to work pretty well in Japan about 70 years ago. I don’t recall having much trouble from them since then.
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:43pm
  http://tinyurl.com/8tx9v75
  
  I’m sorry but 35,000,000 people are not all part of the Taliban, you cannot just start picking and choosing cities on a map that you would like to wipe out like you’re playing a game of Risk. That’s dangerous and irrational, I understand your anger – trust me, I do but that way of doing things is NOT American. Throughout history when men greater than ourselves and more powerful were called to make decisions they had to make them with knowledge, valor and integrity. Truman saw no way around Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the all encompassing force of Imperial Japan would not back down, one of the most heinous events of all time was necessary and like Reagan said hopefully we can prevent it from ever occurring again.
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:45pm
  2MinutesToMidnight
  
  That was a totally different situation and as someone who I assume is a history and military buff, you should know that.
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:53pm
  http://tinyurl.com/8tx9v75
  http://tinyurl.com/c947rhd
  
  People, families and animals like the ones you know and love live in that country in those cities and some of us are so gung-ho about setting their skin and bones ON FIRE. It’s scary, please realize this!
  
  We can disagree on use of force and how to attentively annihilate our actual enemies, we can disagree on policy but do you really love the idea of killing all of those people?
  
  No matter how much you hate those terrorists or how much you think you hate Muslims in general, you can’t justify the killing of innocent women and children for a small group of crazed lunatics, can you? I hope we can agree on that much even if rhetoric like “Glass the terrorists” sounds cool on the ‘net.
  
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- 502_eagle
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:03pm
  Actually having the enemy think your a crazed lunatic is a good thing.
  
  How did the Russians feel about Reagan? And our own media fed that by fearing “he would have his finger on the button”
  
  Again you need to grow up. Like any western nation is gonna drop a nuke. Fear of the worlds reaction alone would give pause.
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:07pm
  You and three other people said you wanted to nuke the country, it’s right above us, I can take a screenshot of it and put it on imageshack if you’d like. You cannot deny what you just said but if it was hyperbole than just say that it was.
  
  Reagan’s philosophy was “Peace Through Strength” for the most part and in many cases it worked, Reagan was, despite what some of my brother and sisters on the left would tell you – A man of peace, we disagree on almost everything but he was certainly that. Something that sadly not a lot of Conservatives share with President Reagan.
  
  Listen – If you and other people here are open to admitting when they say silly crap like “NUKE THE MUSLIMS” or “WE SHOULD SPRAY PIG SH** ON THEIR GARBAGE COUNTRY” is all just hyperbole and machismo bullcrap, than I will never bother you about it again.
  
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- 502_eagle
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:18pm
  What don’t you understand about LAKE Afghanistan?
  
  Please do go back and re-read.
  Take your screen-shot.
  
  Then note my later line about OBAMA reducing nukes by using them.
  
  You know Huffpo has an article NYT: ‘Significantly More 9/11 Negligence Than Has Been Disclosed’
  
  More than 11,000 comments. You could join in the fun bashing Bush. Tell them we are all war mongers over here. What-ever.
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:24pm
  Here we are again BACK to you assigning me YOUR beliefs about my positions – AGAIN. Come on, I’m being nice and reasonable here and not jumping to conclusions. To be fair I think I might have misunderstood your comments but I think my points still stand although you could still easily kill many innocent people and destroy their livelihoods.
  
  I don’t read the Huffington Post (although it appears you do) it’s a vapid online news letter for people who like to wax “informed” about politics but more-so pop culture garbage.
  
  Nor do I think Bush was a bad President or a fool, personally since you seem so interested in my position: I think he had an incompetent government around him that bungled many things but I harbor no ill will to the man or any of his supporters or officials, I do think that they violated the constitution and in a perfect utopia that would be punishable by law (Much like the Obama administration has done the same) but we don’t live in that world so unfortunately we must be the better people and live and let live. We can still disagree reasonably though.
  
  Please, refrain from assuming my positions if we have the delight of continuing this conversation :)
  
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- 502_eagle
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:37pm
  Come on, I’m being nice and reasonable here and not jumping to conclusions.
  
  You jumped right over the word LAKE and took everything dead serious.
  
  BTW you assumed my position first.
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:44pm
  Your comment featured a typo which led me to believe what you were saying is something totally different, which I addressed above. :) Thanks for noticing though!
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:45pm
  Oh and yet still there are other comments on this thread about “Nuking” Afghanistan so, I hope those people would read my arguments as well!
  
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- 502_eagle
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 9:53pm
  Yeh and you choose my comment even though it had an clear overkill to it.
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 10:00pm
  Yours was the first one I saw plus theirs came much later on other pages. :)
  
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MN NICE
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:10pm
They still insist that they’re not a threat to anyone… Is that a RPG in your pocket? Or are you just happy to see me?

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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:14pm
  Who insists who isn’t a threat, exactly?
  
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Jenny Lind
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:10pm
If our government is dumb emough to not beieve them, we are in deep stuff.

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audiemurphy
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:10pm
blah blah blah……I say give em their wish and let’s get everyone home and let them self destruct. You can’t change them and nation building is wrong . if they want freedom god will give it to them and they can attain it themselves. It’s no country’s job to try and force it militarily.
Bin laden is dead ! Let’s turn our might towards Iran ! They are a real threat!

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- shorelineliz
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:32pm
  Amen! I consider it OUR RIGHT to keep feeding them PORK at GUANTANAMO BAY!
  
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- kickagrandma
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:47pm
  We don’t know for sure bl is dead, now do we???
  After all it is the liar-in-chief and his group who are spreading that rumor.
  Seems to me we would all know better than to believe ANYTHING they say by now.
  
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coyote1hell
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:06pm
As you can see, they are really afraid of Big “(o)” and the DNC…is the “D” for Demented, Delusional, Dysfuctional, Depraved, or Disastarious..?..

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- WindyDualism
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 7:56pm
  D. All of the above.
  
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easyD
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:01pm
Is there anything else you would like to share about your religion of peace?

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RightUnite
Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:00pm
Really??? Allah can go corkscrew a pig for all I care.

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- JUSTANOTHEROPINION
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:13pm
  You do know that Allah is Aribic for God? Right? So, even though radical Islam twists his words it is still God and I’m not sure, well, yes, I am positive I would never sugest God do anything with a corkscrew. Just sayin’
  
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- whatthecrazy
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:19pm
  lol agree………..
  
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- thibx
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 6:40pm
  allah is a egyptian moon god not the God who made heaven and earth. their god is satan who concieved the religion.
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on September 11, 2012 at 8:10pm
  @Justanotheropinion
  
  You know some loony-bird wingnut is going to come in here and say that Allah is ACTUALLY (Like, for reals!) a Egyptian demon from THE BIBLE and that Allah isn’t REALLY God and is something else altogether, wow I got beat to it? Crap.
  
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