Presidential Candidate Issues Statement on Libya & Cairo Attacks…and It’s Not Romney or Obama
Following Tuesday’s attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, and the murder of Ambassador to Libya J. Christopher Stevens, Foreign Service Information Management Officer Sean Smith, and two United States Marines*, Libertarian presidential candidate and former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson issued the following statement:
It is tragic when Americans serving their country are murdered, and we both mourn their loss and honor their service.
Part of honoring that service is to ask the obvious question: What U.S. interest is being served by putting our people — and our money — in places where U.S. personnel can be killed by extremists over a video? We launched millions of dollars worth of missiles to bring down Gaddafi, and this is what we get. We hail and encourage the outbreak of an Arab Spring in Egypt, send them billions of dollars we can’t afford, — and our embassy is breached and our flag desecrated.
In Afghanistan, we continue to put our troops in harm’s way 10 years after our post-9/11 mission was complete. Why?
The airwaves are filled today with political chest-pounding and calls for decisive action. The most decisive and prudent action we can take today is to stop trying to manage governments and peoples on the other side of the globe who don’t want to be managed, get our people out of impossible situations that have no direct U.S. interest, and immediately stop sending money to regimes who clearly cannot or will not control their own countries.
Protecting America with a strong national defense and a rational foreign policy is our leaders’ most basic responsibility. But let us not confuse national security with senseless intervention where our interests are clearly not being served.
As for the other presidential candidates: Former Gov. Mitt Romney has condemned both the attacks on the consulate and the administration’s initial response to the siege of the Cairo embassy and President Barack Obama has promised to bring those responsible for the riots to justice.
UPDATE: Contrary to what was initially reported about the deaths in Libya, two of the men with the U.S. ambassador were former SEALs — not U.S. Marines.
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OniKaze
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:07amI don’t know anything about this Gary Johnson guy (at least enough to have an opinion about him) but I definitely agree with EVERY word of that statement…
We have NO business in the middle east… They don’t want us there, and we have no need to be there (as they have nothing we really need). We should pull EVERY American asset out of the middle east, and tell them “from now on, your COMPLETELY on your own… So NOW you will see what a world without American intervention would look like, and since that is what you claim you want, then we will do so, and when you are in trouble and need our help… Remember, its YOU who wanted US to leave….”
Let the primitive/savage sand-camels fight and kill each other… it has nothing to do with us…
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johnjamison
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:54amMost American agree with Johnson’s statement but the military industrial complex owns both candidates and they see dollars signs all over the middle east. In destruction and the rebuilding of those areas.
Here’s a question someone needs to ask Washington wht are we rebuilding our enemies citys when our own cities are crumbling. Why are our politicians allowing civilians to be victim to protect Islam. Why won’t most of them connect the the common thread between Islam and the last 40 years of terrorism
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:08am“Most American agree with Johnson’s statement but the military industrial complex owns both candidates and they see dollars signs all over the middle east.”
Yea, that’s why he did so well in the primaries.
You guys are so naive. Do you honestly think that as soon as we remove our presence from the Middle East, China and or Russia won’t be moving in? You guys are obviously too young to remember the Cold War.
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KURT1010
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:59amNever hear of him, is he running with rosanne barr ?
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smcnabb
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 12:42pmAmen!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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v15
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 12:44pmHere’s a link to where Johnson stands on the issues:
http://www.ontheissues.org/gary_johnson.htm
He is for open borders
He is for gay marriage
He is pro choice
He wants to alienate our allies
Listen, I can’t vote for someone that has more in common with liberals than conservatives.
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johnjamison
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 12:49pmYou’re right squid I forgot to place INFORMED in front of Americans……as only only uninformed idiots vote on the most t/v ads and new networks analysis
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Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:49pm@v15 “Listen, I can’t vote for someone that has more in common with liberals than conservatives.”
HAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAA!!
The things you guys say are just too funny when you are really awake and know the end game. I’m sure people have had a good laugh at me as well back when i was one of you. and the same goes for the other sides die hard party pushers as well…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZLqsRqKFyI
oh and both candidates are funded by the same big banks (THE FED)
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FatFreedom
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:44pmV15
Is 15 your IQ? The fact is that Romney has more in common with Obama than Ron Paul. So our only choice for us that want to restore our constitution, and preserve our liberty, get spending under control and not sell out our nation and the $ to the world bankers and a NWO, is to vote for Gary Johnson.
Check this out to see what he stands for, if you are so limited you depend only on talk radio and fox news: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tLN5NBZ5KU
Regarding the borders, what he has said is that if we could get rid of the benefits for illegals, and get rid of the welfare state, only hard working people would come. Like your forefathers when they came. The first immigration law came in the late 1800′s to stop the Chinese from flooding in on the west coast, after the imperial Europe, and the US unfortunately had helped make a mess in China…
I am pro life, so I am not happy that he supports abortion in the first trimester. Nevertheless, I am also pro Liberty, pro Constitution, and anti NWO, and anti Govt. spending and anti. Govt meddling in others nations affairs… So I will vote for Gary Johnson despite my differences on some issues. Romney by the way has been a democrat most of his life, as well as he was the first governor that pushed for socialist healthcare in his state that Obamacare was modeled after.
Stop drinking the CoolAid and do some minor research before you go and make a fool of yourself again.
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naql
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:20pm@squidvetohio: the Chinese, perhaps. The Russians, no. The Chinese aren’t going to nuke us. they need us to buy their cheap crap.
@et al
Yeah, Johnson is socially liberal, but you can’t police morality (and shouldn’t) and the social conservatives might as well accept the fact that they are a noisome minority. I could care less whether gay people dress up and call themselves “married”. And you are not going to outlaw abortion. I would personally never go that route, but neither do I subscribe to the theory that every unborn baby is a potential Albert Einstein. We have lots of people, and most of them are not worth the space they are taking up. WRT the “open borders”, you are not going to build a great wall of China either. Johnson was in the construction business; if anybody would be able to come up with a pragmatic solution to a guest worker program, I would go with that guy rather than a community organizer or a CEO type outsourcing tech jobs to India.
In my opinion, the most patriotic thing anyone could do would be to vote third party, even if it isn’t for Governor Gary Johnson, the most qualified guy running for the job.
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lisa2994
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:41am@endgamer
When you posted the NAZI neocon blazers you turn people off. Not helping your cause here at all! Big turn off!!!
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:12amBesides, last I checked the Ron Paul/Gary Johnson people are the ones harping that we let the muslims run the Jews into the Mediterranean sea and stay out of it. A little hypocritical to be calling conservatives Nazis isn’t it?
BTW, you big “L” Libertarians are not conservative. Not even remotely. Go down your checklist of beliefs. You guys agree with liberals way more than you do with us. Taxes is about your only disagreement with them. So, shouldn’t you all be on HuffPo?
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black9897
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:45amSo what? It’s not about “liberal” or “conservative” it’s about do you stand for all freedoms or do you not? Not just the ones you like or are on the R platform. R’s are so quick to jump up and down for gun rights (which I’m a gun guy myself) yet when it comes to putting something in your own body such 420 many say “ohh no, bad bad.” D’s do the same. You’re automatically assuming if it’s coming from a “liberal” it must be wrong. Simply because they are wrong on many issues doesn’t mean they are wrong on every one.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:04am“You‘re automatically assuming if it’s coming from a “liberal†it must be wrong.”
Yes, yes I am. Tell me one issue liberals are right about. Who said anything about the Republican platform? Conservatives are always right and liberals are always wrong. Period. My main point was about the Jews being destroyed by muslims anyways.
And as far as legalizing pot, cocaine, heroin, crack, meth, etc… Go ahead and put it on the ballot. It’s voted down almost every time because society knows what the predictable outcome of drug use is…. violent crime, neglected and/or abused children, and broken families. Most of us would like to avoid that because it hurts society as a whole. Not just the drug user.
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:26amLibertarians believe in freedom, both socially and economically, which is really the big divide between republicans and democrats.
Republicans that claim to believe in Constitutional law are mostly hypocrites, because they will shred the constitution if it means keeping the scary atheist and homosexuals at bay. At least democrats are honest with their goals. Don’t call yourself a liberty loving American if all you mean is that you love liberty for those with the same belief system as you. Liberty and freedom are universal, even if you disagree with other’s use of their freedom, they deserve it as much as you do.
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:31am“Go ahead and put it on the ballot.”
So you believe in democracy over republic? So if 51% of the people want it, that should make it so? What if 51% vote called for your head, even though you are innocent of any crime? Majority rules! Off with his head!
The constitution does not have any provision nor does Congress have an enumerated power to regulate what goes into my body. I don’t even believe the states should have the power to determine that. It is my body and if I want to destroy it with vices, I am a free American and should be allowed to do so. The second I cross from destroying myself and I start to hurt others, I go to jail. Simple.
What happens when 51% of Americans vote that Christianity be outlawed? Would you suppose it, since it was put to ballot and voted on?
No, we are not a democracy. I will fight for this Republic until my dying breath. A Republic protects the minority. You may be majority now, but will you forever?
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AngryRedneck
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 12:41pm@AMERICAN SOLDIER (SEPARATED), you hit the nail on the head. Most supporters from both the major parties miss that point, that neither party supports true freedom, in the sense that our Founding Fathers envisioned. “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” – Benjamin Franklin. The people we have in politics today are in it for power or money, not to serve and look after our Constitutional rights. Both parties use smoke and mirrors, and plenty of excuses, why our rights are being diminished, under the guise of protecting us from evil. I’d rather protect myself, and decide for myself what is wrong and what is right. I trust my morals much more than those that will run for a political office. What my neighbor does to his body, in his house, does not affect me.
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johnjamison
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 12:51pmBs squid we’re harping to let isreal handle isreal business and keep our troops out of it. What you another marxist world policer wannabe
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black9897
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 1:07pmThe legalizing of pot they are right about. Legalizing gay marriage. While gay marriage is morally wrong I would be hypocritical to not allow that, yet allow other things. That’s a very poor way to view things
No, society has been led to believe it will based on lies since the 1930’s. Here are some facts about drugs.
1. Drug use does not normally cause violent behavior. In the book Criminal Behavior: A Psychological approach –Bartol. It explains drugs and myths.
2. Legalizing drugs would get rid of most of the violence. Why? See, unlike a free market where if I’m wronged I can take legal action in a black market I can only use violence if someone wrongs me. In law it’s called the “clean hands doctrine†courts don’t help those who engage in illegal activity. So, the cause of violence isn’t the drugs (at least the majority) it’s the fact they are illegal.
. Cocaine, heroin, pot do NOT cause violent behavior in normally nonviolent people (which is the majority). In fact, pot users are less likely to be criminal or violent.
4. Most people in jail are there for non-violent drug use/possession. Throw those ppl out and it would clear up the jails for REAL criminals who commit real crimes, ya know..like rape, murder.
5. It is morally wrong to violently throw someone in jail for simply using or possessing a drug.
The research is there. Most people don’t know the truth about drugs because it’s been beaten into
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jadams1214
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:19pm@SQUID Being told i’m not conservative is a compliment. It means i’m an independent thinker and not a slave to the Romney/Republican machine. Conservative=Republican=RINO=TEA Party=lack of principles.I’ll take the Libertarian compliment anyday.
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galicant wiseword
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:02amIf Gary Johnson managed to get 15% of the vote, would that really make a difference in the election? Since his common sense policies would draw the moderates from both the R and D’s it would be negligible to either candidate. Since when did the popular vote matter anyway? I was going to write in Ron Paul but am now considering voting Johnson just to give a third party more money in future efforts to fix America. We’ll see if there is even an election this November. I believe that we are witnessing the beginning of the “12th Imam’s” plans with this phony movie. Why on the 11th anniversary of 9/11? The date is significant. The “riots” were planned on the best possible day to enrage Americans towards action. That coupled with the impending collapse of the dollar and the E.U.’s anxious attempt to take over the banks of it’s member countries is looking like the start of something only “the one” can fix.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:08amI encourage you to read these articles. Peace
http://www.dailypaul.com/242672/considerations-on-a-ron-paul-3rd-party-or-write-in-campaign-and-the-future-of-the-liberty-movement
http://www.dailypaul.com/243194/the-ron-paul-and-gary-johnson-conundrum
http://www.dailypaul.com/252471/quantify-the-movement-the-case-for-gary-johnson
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galicant wiseword
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:41amThanks for the links. Good things to think about.
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mtcountrygrl
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 12:28pmyes lets help Obama win. Good plan
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Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 12:30pmGreat links Soy…..Thanks!!
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jadams1214
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:22pm@MTCOUNTRYGIRL Nominating Romney was the first step to helping Obama win!
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:43amThis is about as relevant as what Snooky’s opinion on the embassy attacks are. Except hers would be less self-serving.
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circleDwagons
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 1:40pmListened to Beck this morning, He thinks we should remove ourselves from corrupt systems. I agree. It is Time to give the D/R party the boot. LOVE and Liberty
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:19pmGlenn is proof that eventually, Ron Paul’s positions are correct. We cannot be keeping our military in the line of fire unless we have a clear objective
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kat747
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:42amAnd….the US Embassy in Cairo just APOLOGIZED to the AlQeida terrorists.
You really are a muslim, aren’t you Barry ?
Bend over and grab your ankles, America !
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:57amfunny cuz this article said it was not an apology
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-romney-trade-jabs-over-anti-american-islamist-furor-in-the-middle-east/#comment-4089181
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:23amWhat courage by Mr. Johnson
I takes a honest man to recognize our mistakes and it takes courage to do the right thing
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:34amJohnson will take votes away from Obama AND Romney. Johnson will probably take more votes away from whichever candidate least represents their party – but that is not Johnson’s fault, it is the fault of the party for nominating that person
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:41amHere is someone else with a brain. Well said.
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13th Imam
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:12amA DEMOCRAT Shill in Gary Johnson clothing,
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:28amOh look at that! This article is way down on Theblaze, despite being one of the most recent articles. And it has the most comments….
So much for the truth
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:27am13th Imam, That is all you ever say, it is boring. Nobody takes you seriously here with remarks like that. I am a Tea Party voter, and I was going to vote Romney, but after the convention debacle, I am voting for Johnson and many like me are doing the same. The Ron Paul crowd is coming around to Johnson, so Romney is going to be toast. If you guys are really serious about NOBAMA, you had better start looking also. I mean we all want Obama out, but we have all learned, because we are intelligent, that the Dems and Repubs do not care about our voices and just do what they want. It is time to be like my handle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08&feature=player_embedded
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13th Imam
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:22amYet, It’s true. Vote for the 1%er, G Johnson/Husein Obama.
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:33amNot only has it dropped down the articles list on the front page, they renamed the title of the article. I tried to find the article again and I thought they had deleted it but instead removed Gary Johnson from the title. What are they so afraid of?
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Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 12:34pmWell said Soy. I had been saying that way back when the debates were happening, and people were throwing around the “A vote for Paul is a vote for Obama”, but you said it much better….
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:21amYou know, all I see on this site is infighting, why don;t we all take a step back and realize that we all have one thing in common, to get the present Fake Commander and Chief out of office. Her is something to lighten up the conversation and bring a smile to everyone’s face: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tE0M9R1YXH0
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reformed_2
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:27amBorders are already open and how do you propose to get rid of 12 million+ suspected illegal aliens? Fact is, beyond the rhetoric, some sort of amnesty would be the only way to effectively deal with the situation. Reality is a b**ch. You don’t have to like it.
THE SAME WAY WE GET RID OF ANY ILLEGALS NOW. WE HUNT FOR THEM BY ANY MEANS AT OUR DISPOSAL. WHEN THEY ARE LOCATED, WHICH ISN’T DIFFICULT SINCE THEY ARE ALWAYS IN THE SAME TYPES OF LOCATIONS; FARMS, RANCHES, CASH CROPS, BORDER BUSINESSES. WE THEN DEPORT THEM. PERIOD.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:39am@reformed
That is not Romney’s plan. Romney’s plan is “self-deportation”
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AngryRedneck
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:48amI agree, the infighting on this site, and bashing of Libertarians, has gotten as bad as the bashing between D’s and R’s. Both are sheep, only difference is how quickly the flock is being led off the cliff…the destination is the same. I used to consider myself an R, until I realized that they spent just as much, cared just as little about our freedom guaranteed by the Constitution, and no longer considered themselves to be public servants, but rather consider the public as their servants, with taxes as the cash crop. I’m a socially conservative Libertarian, and there are many out there like me, fed up with the current faux two party system, where neither party really has our best interests in mind.
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endgamer
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:38amGary Johnson is Ron Paul with foreign policy that NAZI neocon blazers can understand.. He’s the real deal.. He’s a constitutionalist and WILL return the powers the founders and the constitution intended to the states.. Which means blazers, NO legislating morality.. That is up to you and the state you live in.. However. you harm someone, and there’s a problem, a big one. That includes business.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:48amWell Said.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:24amyea!!!
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:07am” However. you harm someone, and there’s a problem, a big one. That includes business.”
Why? Why is that wrong? You just said you don’t want morality legislated. Or would that only be the morals you are squeamish about like abortion, gay marriage, and illegal drugs. ALL LAWS ARE BASED ON MORALITY! You ever take a law class? You should try it and learn about what “natural law” is and where it came from. Everything that is illegal is so because we have deemed it IMMORAL!
Ugh, just go and vote for Obama and be done with it.
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landman1
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:00amPaul/Johnson bots,
All that you say about Johnson might be true. And he might even give out green stamps with each vote but he is irrelevant! Please get that through your head if nothing else gets through. Every vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama! Plain and simple. How can you be proud of that legacy?
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:41amSQUIDVETOHIO
Not everything immoral is illegal. Are you seriously saying that? Look up the 10 commandments.
How many of them are actually illegal? Two? Murder and theft? The two most common crimes of all history?
Let’s analyze it shall we?
1) I am the Lord thy god, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
NOT ILLEGAL
2) Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.
NOT ILLEGAL
3) Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.
NOT ILLEGAL
4) Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.
NOT ILLEGAL
5) Honor thy father and thy mother.
NOT ILLEGAL
6) Thou shalt not murder.
ILLEGAL!!!!!!
7) Thou shalt not commit adultery.
NOT ILLEGAL
8) Thou shalt not steal.
ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!
9) Thou shalt not bear false witness against they neighbor.
ILLEGAL ONLY IN THE COURT OF LAW, or in cases of libel and slander, which is technically only a civil matter not criminal
10) Thou shalt not covet anything that belongs to thy neighbor.
NOT ILLEGAL
If it neither p.ricks my foot nor picks my wallet, i care not what you do!
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GeorgeWashingtonslept here
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:04amHEY BLAZE! Are you frigging asleep????? You going to let everyone know what is going on in YEMEN as I type??????????????? Good GRIEF! Wake the hell up.!
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kat747
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:39amAnd there goes Baghdad………just saw it on television.
PULL OUT
STOP SENDING THOSE FREAKS MONEY
AND
LET THE RUSSIANS HAVE THEM.
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OlefromMN
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:00amGary who?
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:24amJohnson
I think you have posted that before. You may have amnesia
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MachIV
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:54amGary Johnson is for open borders. That’s all I need to know about him. Period.
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v15
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:40amYeah, that totally caught me off guard while I was on his website. How can a “constitutionalist” be for open borders and granting amnesty to a portion of illegal aliens? Also, why do “constitutionalists” support affirmative action?
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endgamer
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:54amNo he’s not for OPEN BORDERS!!.. He has common sense immigration policy..http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Gary_Johnson_Immigration.htm
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:03amBorders are already open and how do you propose to get rid of 12 million+ suspected illegal aliens? Fact is, beyond the rhetoric, some sort of amnesty would be the only way to effectively deal with the situation. Reality is a b**ch. You don’t have to like it.
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Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:21amGary Johnson sounds like he wants Obama to be re-elected, because he’s delusional if he thinks he can do anything except get enough votes to cause Romney to lose. Gary Johnson and Ron Paul are both self-centered egotists.
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endgamer
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:51amWe have an open border with Canada… Why not Mexico? Canadians have the same rules Mexico does. However Mexicans will do the dirty work Most Americans wont. That’s a FACT.. Get over this border bull$heet and don’t give them amnesty, make them taxpayers! If you knew Gary’s plan, there would be no income tax, no IRS, No Federal Reserve. Only a legal “fully allocated” consumption tax collected at the state level. Our current system is a direct unallocated tax which is illegal. There would be no federal law banning drug use either. Decriminalizing it takes away the illegal drug cartel. We have the biggest drug cartel to deal with and that’s big pharma! They’re the monster! Wake up Blazers! Stop being Beck sheeple and think logically for a change. He visions an open border like Canada in the future.. I don’t have a problem with that..
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Will4Freedom
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:03amMr. Enough.
I’m sure you consider yourself intelligent. Maybe you can answer this question. Why has every president in recent history been a member of the CFR? Both Dems and Repubs. Why is there such an effort by EVERYON in power (politics and media) to marginalize candidates who are NOT members of the CFR?
Why are we told we only have TWO choices… and both being CFR members? Why if we’ve had both D and R leadership, are we ALWAYS growing government and debt?
I do hope you and all Americans someday realize how much we are all being played for fools. Maybe then we fight the status quo and get someone who WE want… with OUR values.
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Individualism
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:18amGary Johnson is right again on foreign policy and he is certainly the best man running for the job, if you want the best vote for him.
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tzion
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:30am@individualism
“If you want the best…” What if the best is unattainable? Maybe I want the to attend the highest quality restaurant in America but am unable to have that desire fulfilled. Do I then start eating out of trash cans or do I find somewhere else that, while not nearly as good, still serves decent food that I can reasonably acquire access to? I didn’t want Romney but at least he wants to see America be strong again. Obama seems to believe that a weak America is somehow better for all of us.
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Will4Freedom
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:47amUsing your restaurant analogy, I would say to you that you are being told there are only two places to eat. What you are not being told is the both chefs attended the same school. So anything you eat will pretty much taste the same.
Some people are trying to alert others to the fact that there’s another restaurant in town where the chef did NOT go to that school. The food may not LOOK as good as the other places, but it’s a lot healthier for you.
If enough people would eat there, the other two places would take notice, don’t you think?
At least we still have the freedom to eat where we want, no?
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CaptainCaveman
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:11am@Endgamer,
In the link that you posted, Gary Johnson explicitly states that he is open borders. Try reading your own info. That’s not a sensible immigration policy; that’s a plan for national suicide. The idea that they would all become taxpayers is idiotic. It’s not based on evidence or reality.
A report came out recently that showed that between 1985 and 2005, California added 10 mil immigrants. Out of that number, only 150 thousand pay taxes. His plan would destroy America. He’s even worse than Obama in this regard.
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Delores at CH WV
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:48amBottom Line: 2012 Election must be a 2 party vote. After the 2012 either support conservative candidates to take Rhinos out of the Repub. Party or begin a new party structure. It is too late to begin a successful run. Target 2014-2016 by building a new structure by removing Senators and House members from Congress. If this is not sucessful, then, recruit young, focused, Constitutionist to get new blood in the system.
Gary, if you loved this country as you say you do; then, resign from your run for President. Gary, this is not about you!!!!! You sound as if you are doing the noble thing;however, you sound and act like a Rhino to me. A vote wasted this year on Gary is a vote for the most corrupt and Godless government in American History.
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decendentof56
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:21amDELORES AT CH WV…”A vote wasted this year on Gary is a vote for the most corrupt and Godless government in American History.”
Thank you, Delores!!!!!!!! I couldn’t have said it any better. We elect Romney, pressure Romney and every Repub to follow the Constitution, and kick them OUT if they do not!
It’s way beyond time that Constitutionalist’s stop attempting to play “nice” with radical Communists/ Socialists. Deamonize them! Marginalize them! Freeze them! Why do the Repub’s not use the tactics that the left uses? Why are they afraid?
Call them traitor’s! Thats what they are. This is the LAST CHANCE for the Repub’s, and we’ll have to push Romney to get the country back to following the Constitution.
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v15
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:31amJohnson is also a progressive. I agree with a lot he stands for but his core beliefs do not reflect my beliefs. I’m just setting the record straight. I researched Johnson and read his own words and I was surprised what I found on his website. He has too many liberal beliefs that I look at as immoral.
And whatever his name can stop trying to debunk what I posted about Johnson but I got this directly off his website. He’s not as squeaky clean that people have made him out to be. From my point of view, I’m pissed that Garry Johnson supporters conveniently left many of his political views out. So, Johnson supporters, thanks for lying to me that Johnson is “what this country needs.”
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:07amhow long do you think this country has? Pressure the republicans to return to constitutional principles? The republican party is responsible for the NDAA, patriot act, etc….The 2 party system has destroyed this country, with both parties standing for tyranny.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:28am@Delores
I just laugh my ass of when i see that kind of post. If Gary Johnson drops out, do you really think his supporters and people like me will vote for Mitt Romney??? AHAHAHAHA
Only a facist would want to deny people the opportunity to voice their concerns and force people into a two option box. The republican party will NEVER change unless we show them how many libertarians there are
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KrishnaDas
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:31am“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” – John Quincy Adams
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booger71
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:44amsoybomb315_II
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:28am
@Delores
I just laugh my ass of when i see that kind of post. If Gary Johnson drops out, do you really think his supporters and people like me will vote for Mitt Romney??? AHAHAHAHA
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No you will sit out the election or vote for Nobama.
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westtitus
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:25amWell said! We have got to get the Senators and Congressman that have been in office for more than 8 yrs out period! They have not done ANYTHING and need to go and term limits put on them asap. They are more important to replace than replacing the President even though he needs to be kicked as as Nixon was. Obama has done more things to be impeached than Nixon ever even dreamed of! Must vote this lunatic out as soon as possible and if people don’t see it they must be living under a rock.
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Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:15pmNo one is going to pressure Romney to do anything, you are going to be so drunk on the fact that Obama is no longer in office (I will be slightly relived) that you will let him touch you anywhere he wants. I mean you guys are already defending his flip flops. And you are such die hard party pushers (both sides are actually) That you will defend him for 8 years just so the next person in line for the republican nod can get in….It is a never ending game.
The only reason a 3rd party doesn’t win, is because most people fall for the lesser of two evils argument….gets them every time….and also “a vote for the 3rd party is a vote for the really evil one”
And even if you did pressure him, he is not going to do anything to fix it for you. both parties are two hands of the same body.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:03amHere is something all should pay very close attention to. THE most honest reporter we have in this country today, has important information on Obama’s NDAA that Mitt Romney believes in!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PZjXHjkzMD4
Both Parties are to blame here. John McCain (R) is deep into it. As Ben says, we all had better wake up quickly. The thing is, remember Brandon Raub ! Google him if you have not heard.
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v15
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:20am- Gary Johnson does not believe Iran is a military threat
- Gary Johnson hates Israel. In fact, he has said he would do everything in his power to prevent Israel from defending itself
- Gary Johnson wants to reduce our military by half and reduce our nuclear arsenal significantly
- Gary Johnson is pro-choice – he is a strong advocate of abortion
- Gary Johnson is an ardent supporter of gay marriage
- Gary Johnson wants to decriminalize drugs
Sorry, I can’t vote for someone that considers himself to be a progressive classical liberal. You “constitutionalists” have more in common with Democrat than Republicans.
Again, given his track record, he lacks intelligence and sound judgement. You rip on Romney for being progressive – I agree – but fail to mention Johnson is also a progressive.
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nzkiwi
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:35amYou know, just when you think that it can’t get any worse, well, it does.
I use google translate, which works quite well. So go here
http://www.tayyar.org/Tayyar/News/PoliticalNews/ar-LB/usa-killed-lybia-zek-970.htm
and copy the arabic text (remember to go right to left to make the copying easier) and paste it here.
http://translate.google.com/
And then come back and tell me if you think that Islamists aren’t a barbaric cancer apon civilisation.
It makes one want to puke.
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grimmster
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:37am@v15.
If i am a constituutionalist,and by the way, this country is a constitutional republic, then what are you politically? Labels and name calling are what has helped destroy this nation,not by liberals, dems, repubs etc…, but by communists, under the guise of progressives.And people like Johnson, a so called libertarian,are just as dangerous.Until we put real Americans in a public office,those who believe in “we the poeople”, this nation will continue to suffer the oppression brought by not our gov’t,as i said that would be a constitutional republic, but by the people we hire to run it…….
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:40am@V15, “- Gary Johnson does not believe Iran is a military threat”
They do not have the resources to even refine enough gas for their country, even though they are the second largest producers of oil in the world! We could take out their Navy (the strongest of any military) in 1/2 hour.
“- Gary Johnson hates Israel. In fact, he has said he would do everything in his power to prevent Israel from defending itself”
That is a total lie, troll. I get so tired of posters who never show proof.
“- Gary Johnson wants to reduce our military by half and reduce our nuclear arsenal significantly”
Another lie. He wants to cut Military budget waste, like one billion dollar embassies. Like Ron Paul.
“- Gary Johnson is pro-choice – he is a strong advocate of abortion”
Another lie, he has signed legislation against late term abortion! He believes in choice to the viability of the fetus. Read my post below to Mutiny.
“- Gary Johnson is an ardent supporter of gay marriage”
He believes in individual freedom no matter what the sexual preference is, but he also believes that the church should have it’s values met.
“- Gary Johnson wants to decriminalize drugs”
Like our war on drugs has caused anyone to not do drugs, it just wastes taxpayer money.
If you want to learn about Gary Johnson’s beliefs on issues, go here: http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/front He is not hiding anything as he tells the truth.
Now go play in the sand troll.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:45am@nzkiwi, That was appalling. We need to get Congress to declare war so that we may wage war with biblical and Constitutional principles and end this madness once and for all. Just as Ron Paul has always said.
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nzkiwi
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:51amIn case you want to cut to the chase…
It appears that these subhumans raped Ambassador Stevens before they murdered him.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:00am@nzkiwi, Yes, I did your translation and saw that. That is why we must insist that we declare war, as Ron Paul says we should, and take them out with all we have. It is the only way we will end this madness and do it by the Constitution and with biblical just war principles.
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v15
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:06amMaybe you should check his voting record and his personal website. It’s all there. I’m not making anything up. I wanted to know more about Gary Johnson, so I went to his website and found that a lot of his values are not my values. No way would I vote for Johnson.
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v15
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:17amListen, I agree with Gary Johnson an a lot of issues especially his view on taxes. However, I can’t vote for a guy that wants open borders, wants to welcome illegal Mexicans into America, supports abortion, supports gay marriage, and is anti-Israel.
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nzkiwi
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:26am@ Madashell
Sorry, I was so outraged that I missed your reply.
These are nothing more than a bunch of ignorant savages lead around by the nose by some of the most callous, vicious bastards that God ever put breath into.
I have said before that one cannot reason with Isamists, one can only emasculate them. They are constantly and determinedly attacking the free speech of free peoples in order to enslave us.
I hate to sound like a stuck record, but any attack of freedom of expression, no matter how slight, MUST be vigourously rebuffed. Failure to do so invites tyranny into one’s house. Literally.
Mr Obama’s response to this, when it hits the general media, will illuminate him as nothing has before.
His snide attack on Mr Romney now appears foolish, does it not.
Where is Surhan? Man, am I ready for him tonight!
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holy ghostbuster
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:34am@ MADESHEII – “biblical just war principles?” That seems to be the problem in the first place. How about take religion out of your war plans and just rely on common sense and Constitutional principles.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:42am@holy ghostbuster, Because, if we do not at least follow our hearts and country under the name of God, then we might as well be the Islamists that have no adherence to compassion and the Golden Rule that Christ offered. We do need to defend ourselves and do it by the Constitution, as I believe it was written under the influence of God, but if we do not have any compassion, what does that make us?
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voting-for-romney
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:44amIf Russians are not naturally bad people, it was when they announced they wanted to take over the world, that people became motivated to change their agenda? This is nothing more than the modern day age of the Vikings, who plunder the masses, who think they are safe in their fortresses of ignorance, for which the Vikings then seek to plunder them as easy pickings?
A free press, that does not feed propaganda, is what makes the Vikings think, plunder is not an occupation after all? Does not Iran tax the rich? Does not other Muslim nations and any other nation that forbids private enterprise, or has policies that forces citizens to seek international business? Nations that tax the rich out of existence under the guise of “fair share”, end up begging for food?
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:06amPlease, read my post below, read my post and go to the link above, and change your name to Voting-For-Johnson! It is the ONLY chance we have to keep America, America. Spread the word.
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warhorse_03826
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:20ammany of us, all through this election cycle, have asked for a Not-Romney.
the road was paved for romney, any party member who wasn’t going to give mr.romney an easy ride was removed. we’re told, by the same people who gave us mccain, that he is “the only one who can win! nothing else matters!!”.
nothing else matters. that bothers me. it should bother you too. because other stuff DOES matter. like how romney has no set opinions about anything. I could give the guy some credit if he hadn’t been on both sides of most issues. I can vote for a man that I disagree with on some things, if he has a solid foundation as to WHY he believes those things.
“don’t pay attention to who you’re voting for! you HAVE TO get the other guy out at all costs!!” means you should probably take a close look at who you’re voting for.
romney is a wind sock. he points which way the wind is blowing. the wind changes, he changes. whatever it takes to get you to vote for him today. I cannot trust a man that does not have any convictions other than power. like him or not, johnson has convictions. he doesn’t try to weasel out of them to get you to vote for him.
romney will be worse than obama. because some of us have been fooled into thinking he is one of us.
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KrishnaDas
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:40am@WARHORSE_03826 The worst thing, is if Romney wins, the idiot public will label him a conservative. And when his policies, which are not conservative, do not result in the economy improving, or even worse there is some sort of a crash, “conservativism” and other free market principals are what will get the blame and the label tarnished for decades. Then we will get a collectivist to replace him that makes Obama look like Adam Smith. Just as George Bush greased the skids for an Obama to come along.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:35amHere is the thing Blazers; Both Parties have shown us in the conventions that they care not what you, or I, think about anything. It is quite apparent at this point. They were incompetent and we caught them. They were videotaped just following their teleprompter and ignoring the ” Voice of the People” in their platform and rule changes. If that is not a wake up call to all of you, I do not know what will be. They care not what you or I believe, but they believe they can do as they damn will please no matter what we say. I am MADASHEII and I am not going to take it anymore! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08&feature=player_embedded
If you truly believe in the American Way, and you see that the American way is being taken away from you by the ruling class, then you will join me and many, many like me to end this madness. The only way, is to stop following the Party for the Party’s sake, tell them to go to heII, and vote third party just once in your life. If, after four years, they realize their shortcomings to the American Dream and come to Freedom’s side, we can look at them again. But, if we do not do this, this election, I believe that Freedom will be lost forever. The ruling class has us in their gun sights and they are ready to pull the trigger. We must stop them at all costs. Look at Gary Johnson, He at least will fight for Freedom. http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/
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v15
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:18am- Gary Johnson does not believe Iran is a military threat
- Gary Johnson hates Israel. In fact, he has said he would do everything in his power to prevent Israel from defending itself
- Gary Johnson wants to reduce our military by half and reduce our nuclear arsenal significantly
- Gary Johnson is pro-choice – he is a strong advocate of abortion
- Gary Johnson is an ardent supporter of gay marriage
- Gary Johnson wants to decriminalize drugs
Sorry, I can’t vote for someone that considers himself to be a progressive classical liberal. You “constitutionalists” have more in common with Democrat than Republicans.
Again, given his track record, he lacks intelligence and sound judgement. You rip on Romney for being progressive – I agree – but fail to mention Johnson is also a progressive.
Romney/Ryan 2012
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v15
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:54am- Gary Johnson believes in man-made global warming
- Gary Johnson has lax immigration laws
- Gary Johnson strongly supports and open border
- Gary Johnson is an advocate of Affirmative Action
- Gary Johnson believes no prisoners at Gitmo should ever be waterboarded or harmed in any way. He wants the Prisoners/Terrorists at Gitmo to be tried like American citizens.
I could go on and on about what I don’t like about Johnson.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:03am@V15, Read my response above, and I do not expect you to answer as you have no leg to stand on as you are just a liar.
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v15
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:10am@Mad, I got all the information from his website. Even found a list of quotes by Johnson on the issues.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:47am@V15, I left a link to Gary Johnson’s site and all who want to go and research him can. They will have to make up their mind on his issue beliefs, not by what you believe. I happen to believe that at this juncture, he is the best candidate for the situation we are in, Two Parties that care not enough about us that they ignore what we have to say. A government that is so out of control that they are ready to take us off a financial cliff that we will never recover. A government that is only into themselves , do not learn from their mistakes, and have disdain to what their bosses have to say. I think it is time to FIRE them all!
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:03amV15, Don’t bother to argue with this fool. MADASHEII blindly worships Johnson much like the Muslims blindly worship Ala. He is nuttier than BROTHER WINSTON SMITH when he was here writing constant novel sized posts. Like SMITH’s posts I no longer bother to read the tripe MADASHEII wastes space on here.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:33am@RJJinGadsden, You have the right to hide your head in the sand, but like I said in a past post, most people here seem to just bash the ones who come on here with facts that can be backed up with research and all the rest of you just say Oh he is an idiot and doesn’t know what he is talking about, without giving any facts or any solutions to where we are heading. Anyone that listens to people like you should have their head examined. Why don’t you be constructive, look at my facts and either agree, or show proof that I am wrong? Is it so hard for you to do that? Quit being part of the problem and start trying to be part of the solution. I am not a bad person, I am not a Paulbot as you might reference, but I am concerned with the flagrant violations of our freedoms from both parties. I have been a Tea Party member since June of 2009. If we do not start acting like adults and discuss the problems, come up with solutions after understanding the facts, we as a nation could just be toast.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 1:16pmMADASHEII, I in now way will ever hide my head in the sand. When it comes to your foolishness be warned, I have my bullsh/t goggles on. And, you are certainly full of that. Like I said, you blindly worship your candidate, while I have sense enough to be wary of all of them. My main goal is to get 0bama out of the White House, while yours can possibly result in keeping him there. Talk about some dimwit with his head in the sand!
If I might make a suggestion, you really should find another site that is more agreeable to your political proselytizing, rather than just trying to p i s s the rest of us off on a daily basis.
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:47pmHow is voting for hitler to take out Stalin make any sense? That’s what voting lesser of two r iks does, it continues the cycle of evil. I’d rather have Ron Paul but I’ll take Johnson over Romney Amy day of the week.
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eaglescout1998
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:18amA true Libertarian would not send money to other countries, period.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:32am@EagleScout1988, Gary Johnson is a Republican that leans Libertarian. There is a difference. His views are very close to Ron Paul’s, but they are not exactly the same. He is the closest candidate to Ron Paul that we have. Is he the perfect candidate? No. But I believe at this point that he is far better than Obama or Romney. Romney is not polling well at all. He did not get the bump in the polls he should have after the convention and now he is trailing Obama. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Both Democrats and Republican conventions should wake us up to the fact that neither cares about the “Voice of the People” as they just follow what the teleprompter tells them to say. We have the power to send a clear message that we are mad as hell, and we are not going to take it anymore: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08&feature=player_embedded
We need to elect a third party this year, if ever, just to show them this message. http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:41am@EagleScout1998, A true Libertarian would not even consider voting for Obama or Romney. Who else? I believe that writing in Ron Paul will be given to Romney, with the corruption the RNC showed through the primary. So who else? I suppose there is Virgil Goode (The Constitution Party), but I do not believe he will make all 50 states as Johnson will. Think long and hard about that.
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Buddynoel
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:18amLook, I know Governor Johnson and he simply did not show the talent that is required to be president. Gary had many chances to catch on in the Republican debates and just did not. Being governor of New Mexico is not a job that requires Mensa-level knowledge. He simply cannot handle the multilevel task that is accurately called “leader of the free world.” Obama has shown the world that you cannot train on-the-job for this position. The GOP has vetted someone six years for the post. No one else has shown the fortitude it takes to lead. At least, not so far.
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v15
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:51amJohnson isn’t presidential material imo. Libertarians will be voting for him to make a statement to the GOP but I don’t believe Johnson will win. Out of all of the candidates I think Romney, despite being a progressive, is the only candidate that doesn’t want the United States to collapse into anarchy.
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v15
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:58amBe realistic. Our economy is wrecked. Johnson doesn’t have the experience nor the intelligence to turn the country around. He would be in over his head and this is no time for amateur politicians to further divide the country.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:12am#V15, You really believe your BS don’t you? Think about it. I manage a very large national sales force and I am good at what I do. I am very intelligent and have studied politics, business, economics and world affairs. What is happening is probably beyond your IQ, but I will explain it to you in layman’s terms. We used to be a Republic where the individual had the power through their states. Over the last century, we have become a Democracy where 51% rules over the other 49%. Now we are headed to where the 1% rules over the rest. Romney is in the 1% and he will not legislate to give up that power. We are there and this is the election that will decide if “We the People” will regain our power over the government or if the government and the ruling class takes over. This is the “End Game” election. I am not even sure if we will have the power to change anything, as the vote may be so rigged that our vote may not count at all. The way to really tell, is if “We the People” cry out that we will vote third party and then see where the vote goes. That will be telling. But if all of you do not get on board, we may never truly know.
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:17amI will write in Ron Paul, Gary Johnson doesn’t have the chops to do the job. I am comfortable with Ron Paul on most things.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:54am@WarMunger_Al, You have to start thinking in a positive way, With the criminal activity that the RNC did against Ron Paul in the primary, they will figure out a way to put all write in for Paul toward Romney. When asked about what he thought of Gary Johnson, Ron Paul said; “He is Wonderful.” That is the best endorsement you will ever get from Ron Paul as he has continually said that he will not officially endorse anyone as he wants everyone to make up their own minds. Let us get Gary Johnson in the debates, whether he wins or loses, we will at least have someone in the debates talking about Freedom.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:00am@WarMunger_Al
I would do the same if it werent for these facts……
http://www.dailypaul.com/242672/considerations-on-a-ron-paul-3rd-party-or-write-in-campaign-and-the-future-of-the-liberty-movement
http://www.dailypaul.com/243194/the-ron-paul-and-gary-johnson-conundrum
Peace
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The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:39amI agree with him. We should pull our money and our people out of every islamic country. In a 1000 years or so when they know what civility, human rights, and toilet paper are…we can approach them again for diplomacy.
Until then, let them continue to goat-paddle in the shallow end of the gene pool until they all qualify for a spot in the Special Olympics.
Oh…and Johnson is NOT running for president…running for president assumes at least a bee’s pecker of a chance to win. No, what he is running for, is head poster child for the “Look at me! Look at me!” foundation.
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AmericanPatriot
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:58amAgreed.
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:15amSo you agree with what he says but want to remain ignorant to the fact of freedom of choice. A duopoly on the position of POTUS is not much of a choice and does not represent freedom. You’d rather stay trapped in the two party system and vote for the lesser of two evils that didn’t even come close to having such a reasonable response to the tragedy, but rather use it as an excuse to criticize Obama AGAIN. That’s who you’re voting for?
Why not vote for someone who you agree with, rather than just the one YOU think can win?
I’m voting for Gary Johnson.
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The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:39am@ American Soldier (Separated)
1) The only things Obama has passed in office, were from the first year of his term where the Democrats had the house and the senate. Other than that, he has used EO’s and named Czars…in other words he has spit on the constitution and gone around it.
2) The primary goal of the GOP is to make the president look bad and stonewall his ideas and create gridlock so when his term/s are up, there is more of a chance to elect someone from their own party…sad, but true.
3) So what do you think happens when you have a president who has TWO GOP’s working against him? I guess he will go the way Obama did in the 2nd half of his term and spit on the constitution and rule by EO…except he’ll have to do it from day one.
4) No prob…you sit their with your warm and fuzzy principles…and on election day when Obama win’s by a small margin (thanks to a diluted vote against him by Gary Johnson fans voting their “conscience”) …you pretend you still did the right thing by saying “Never would have happened if they’d voted for Johnson instead of Romney like I told them!”
5) Then we’ll enjoy your anti-Obama posts for another 4 years here on TheBlaze…or until the country falls to rebellion. And every time you do post, I hope someone here replies to you “How’s that libertarian vote working for you?”
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v15
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:41amThere’s nothing we (or anyone) can do for these people who seek to kill us and to behave like animals. I think it would be wise to implement sanctions, embargoes, and denied access to the UN. All foreign aid should be denied to them. Their ideology enslaves people and robs many of them of basic human rights. To be clear, I’m not advocating persecuting another religion; however, Islam is an ideology that masquerades as a religion. I think we should bring our troops home, support Israel, and not become extreme isolationists. They want a caliphate, a jihad, to destroy Israel, and to have their flag above ours at the White House. And despite thousands of them chanting death to Obama, President Obama doesn’t seem to care about the mess he helped create. We need to unite as a nation because Muslims want a war with us. I say it’s time to stop fooling around and threaten them with nuclear annihilation.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:49am@The_Almighty_Creestof, You can stay in denial as long as you want. Romney is going to lose no matter what, Why? Because of the way Paul supporters were treated by him through the primary. Did he have to treat them this way? NO! He would have had the nomination regardless. But in doing what he did to them, he lost their vote completely. Then he went along with his attorney and Reince Priebus, who should be fired, and snubbed the voice of, not only the Ron Paul faction, but the rest of the grassroots Tea Party with their rules changes. Now a lot of Tea Party grassroots voters will vote for Gary Johnson also. So who is delusional now? Those that do not face reality are delusional. If you truly want Obama out, you will face this FACT and look at Gery Johnson, if not, give Obama another four.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:24amRon Paul / Gary Johnson / Virgil Goode / Soupy Sales / Mickey Mouse voters will be zeroed-out come November by the hoardes of young and excited (now apathetic, now older, no better off) Obama voters who turned out en masse ’08 who this time will stay tethered to Mom and Dad’s (probably just Mom’s) old and ratty sofa they have called a bed for the last 4 years. It took all the energy they could muster just to vote in ’08, all the promises, all the change and all hope for Obama fleeting.
The White guilters have easily rid themselves of that manufactured guilt and have come to the conclusion that this was NOT the Black man they should have wasted that guilty vote on (hmmm, guilty vote). They will vote for the more qualified Romney this time around.
And finally the “History Makers”… Those who wanted to help make history by voting for Obama being first Black POTUS, are now not wanting history to repeat itself and will vote for the more qualified Romney.
The Ron Paul “or nothing” hypocrites will now fling themselves (like a young child who flings himself/herself upon the floor in a crying fit) at Johnson’s and Goode’s feet (while still wanting to vote for Cynthia McKinney/Ralph Nader as Paul once asked for in ’08).
The Ron Paul “or nothing” hypocrites will be zeroed-out come November (while always being rather insignificant in numbers)… will remain insignificant right up to the end. Their insignificance this time however, goes way beyond the numbers…
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:56am@TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12, Well I must say, that is a heII of a name. You do realize that Ron Paul is finished, do you not? Shouldn’t you be saying Time_To_End_The _Gary_Johnson_Campaign_In_12? Just sayin.
I do hope that you are not like the rest with no researchable proof as you go on.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:22amTIME, LOL, this MADASHEII is proving to be loon here yet. Genuinely nuttier than squirrel turds. I wonder how many keyboards he kills on a daily basis. His scribling reminds me of the WWII cartoon of Charles de Gaulle shouting so long in his speeches that already 7 microphones are down.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:34amRJJ. LOL. He’s BRO’ WINSTON-LITE….
MADASHEll. You and your comments…. are… well… insignificant.
BUT… you can never have enough of END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN… as his miscreants and malcontents will surely be with us for some TIME to come regardless of who they vote for (Obama).
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:40am@RJJinGadsden, You can laugh all you want, but I bet I make more in one month than you do in a year. I do have all the time I want for my own personal eccentricities, but what do you care? You are just someone who does nothing but bash good people trying to make a difference for our country with no good solutions to try and attempt to put forth. There is a name for people like you. When you figure out that name, if you can, let me know.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:40amTime2 is just freaking because he thought this “constitutional problem” was solved and that he has to change his name already
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:58amWell at least I do not DO ALL CAPS IN ORDER TO GET MY POINT ACROSS!!!
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 1:50pmMADASHEII, I am happy for you if you are doing that well. But, what I don’t get is where the hell are you coming from with a claim like that? Next, you being a late comer here have not read all of my older posts and obviously have no idea of my political ideals and goals. I do want to see a better country, and I am willing to work for the best way to do that. But the extreme Libertarian ideals expressed by you, and SOYBOMB as well as others recently really do more to frighten me. I don’t laugh at you, but I will remain wary of you. I see this nation as being, or at lone time it was more like the republic depicted in this video. And, I say this before you try to respond, what you have been saying as well as so many others, you do not express the American Government described here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGL8CiUtXF0
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:25pm@RJJinGadsden, I have watched that video before, went ahead and watched it again, but I am not getting YOUR point. We are not now in a Republic, I believe our Republic was destroyed over many decades and became a Democracy and we are and have been exiting Democracy into Oligarchy for over three decades. If you really think about it, there have been two families that have been in power positions in Washington since 1980, Bushes and Clinton’s. The nominees that we get are all backed by the same companies that also backed them, such as, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Credit Suisse, Price Waterhouse Coopers, etc…
The powers in Washington in both parties showed their hand in the conventions this year by ignoring the voice of the people and doing exactly what they wanted. We do not have a voice anymore and what Soy and I, and all other Liberty voters, are not going to continue down that road. We want our voices and Republic, back and Mitt Romney will not do it, he is backed by those same companies that are the real rulers in Washington. Oligarchy.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:18pm@RJJinGadsden
“extreme libertarian ideals”
You sound like MSNBC
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:53pmSOY, in your case, I really do think that being okay with incest is an example of extreme Libertarianism. This nation was not established be totally lawless, and past historical results from incest illustrates a good reason for such laws. We obviously have differing ideals, and I am fine with that. If you recall you have denigrated me in the past for posting my ideas. That in itself is proof of our differing opinions. You have preached to all of us as well as directing some comments to me regarding Ron Paul and eventually Gary Johnson are the most glorious of candidates for president. I disagree, simple as that. I’m not all that fond of Romney and have stated that since I have been here. But, also in my opinion he has the best chance of getting 0bama out of the White House, and for now that is my ultimate goal. Yeah, short sighted, but it going to take a boat load of future elections to even start digging us out of the mess that a boat load of previous elections has gotten us into.
MADASHEII, I disagree a little about your assessment of that video. While I would like to see us in that center right position again, I don’t yet think that we have broken away entirely. Trouble is, we are just to close to that end game. I can see a second 0bama admin leading us directly to a Politburo like oligarchy and the end of our Constitution. And, voting for Gary Johnson will in way help to evict 0bama from our White House. If you don’t like that, then sorry. It’s simply the truth.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 14, 2012 at 7:14amI am NOT OK WITH INCEST. That is a complete and utter lie. Go back and look at the article.
i hate liars
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smokeyridgerunner
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:15amFor once I agree with someone running for Prez.
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grayling646
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:26amJust once, huh? You must be awful picky.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:31amfinally someone running for president tells the truth instead of trying to get votes
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NOTMOHAMMED
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:14amNo votes for you.
The vote nazi.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:23amSo, you signed up today just to say that? Go live in Germany.
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JACKTHETOAD
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:39amJawhol, mein kamph. Thanks for the thorough investigation. Gestapo much?
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Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:42amMadashell, change your name to dumbashell, it’s more fitting. COWARD.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:55amBob, are you really an Oathkeeper? I am thinking that you are not. I have read your posts in the past, and you do not live up to their principles. By and far, they were for Ron Paul and his ideals, and Gary Johnson follows Ron Paul’s ideals more than anyone else. Here is an article from Oathkeepers to refresh you memory: http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2011/05/12/opinion-ron-paul-driving-republicans-white-house-campaign/
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NOTMOHAMMED
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:04amThat’s ok. They did the same thing in Syria right after WW2 when Israel was born. If he’s nice to me , I’ll let him look up my burka..There’s less hair there than on my face.
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RepubliCorp
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:15amRon Paul and his ideals: 10yrs of racist newsletters.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:35am@Republicorp, That is all you ever say! Get a life, the newsletters are old history, were not of Ron Paul, there is proof of that and besides, Ron Paul is not in the race anymore. Get over it. The only thing you are showing is that you are a MORON.
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Kupo
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:34amu mad? lol
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:08am@Bob_R_OathKeeper, “all idiots do is go for the oathkeeper title” Well, I really did not expect for you to call yourself an idiot, I mean, you are the one with the title Oathkeeper. I do not try to parade myself around with that title, although I am a veteran, never saw any action as I was in from 1980-1988 during peacetime and had a great Commander and Chief. I hope that does not make me a non-vet in your eyes.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:42amhere we see the integrity of the right wing….
rotten
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13th Imam
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:44amMore OBAMA DEMOCRATS in Gary Johnson clothing.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:35am@13rg Imam, Read my reply to you above as I do not want to repeat myself to you repeating yourself with the same old dribble. Gary Johnson will be in the debates, Tea Party and Ron Paul supporters will make sure of it.
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blaze7c
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:37pmHey Bob,
You must be really proud to represent the oathkeepers. You just run your piehole and threaten people. From what I can gather, the Oathkeepers are a very good organization. That means they are not filled with morons like you. So, the consequences, by your standards, will be to harass and arrest people for having RP or Johnson stickers. Yeah, you certainly are a freedom loving American. Why don’t you try to threaten more people on here. That’s your right, but it’s someone elses right here to stomp your rear if you threaten them face to face, keyboard warrior.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 14, 2012 at 2:22am@Bob, “Section 8.04. Code of Conduct. All members must understand that their actions not only reflect on Oath Keepers but on the entire military, law enforcement, fire fighters and first responder , former and current, community. We strive to maintain a positive image within our communities and states…. Oath Keepers and its members are responsible to maintain the integrity and honor of this organization. Oath Keepers shall have a zero tolerance policy for actions that bring disrespect, dishonor or disrepute on Oath Keepers or the military, law enforcement, fire fighters and first responder community.”
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 15, 2012 at 2:33am@Bob, I did not expect a reply from you with that, cowardly.
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NOTMOHAMMED
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:13amBlaming deaths of Our People on a video? I had the misfortune of clicking through the channels to hear a stammering Chuck Todd do the same thing on the enemy network. We got rid of Trump and we’ll get rid of you too. GO AWAY NOW VOTESUCKER!
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Diane TX
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:05amOh please! The only “justice” Obama can fathom is that of anti-colonialism justice. He may or may not be a Muslim, but it’s certain that he’s anti-Israel. He’s too busy to meet with Netanyahu? What a ninny.
Gary Johnson doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell because very few people even know who he is.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:11amThey will, believe me they will before Nov. 6th!
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Diane TX
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:23am@ MadAsHeII
I doubt that. He was excluded from most of the debates because his recognition factor was too low. He didn’t/couldn’t garner enough support back then, why would he at this late date?
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grayling646
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:31amTwist another one up mad. You must be high.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:40amI do not think so, I have been conversing with Freedom Works members (which I am) and Ron Paul supporters and he is most likely to get a lot of support here soon from both factions. If we can get him to 15%, he will be in the debates. Watch for it, it is coming.
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Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:43amYep, keep toking it up dumbashell, you stupid SOB.
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The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:50am@ MadAsHeII
Ask yourself…who is more likely to vote for Johnson…democrats or republicans? I’d say republicans and undecided “swing-in-the-wind” voters.
That being the case, all he does is siphon votes from Romney, reducing Romney’s chance to win…when he (Johnson) has NO chance to win.
I know, I know…it’s all about principles.
I’m sure Obama will want to thank you in November.
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grayling646
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:52amBob
Mad reminds me of a Winston Churchill quote. ‘A zealot is someone who won’t change his mind and won’t change the subject’.
By the way, I took the oath on Apr 29, 1975.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:04amGrayling, I do not believe you either, ads I am an Oathkeeper myself, but I do not wear it on my shoulder to boost support from anyone, I let my words do the talking, my words on the Constitution, Freedom, Individual Liberty and opposition to the direction of our government. That, my man, is standing behind your principles. I am a Veteran, but I do not usually use that as a way to sway anyone. I am who I am, a man of Principle that cannot be swayed. Both parties have shown at their conventions that they do not give a damn about the Peoples Voice, that they will do whatever they want. We have to stand up to them by eliminating them from the picture, at least one election, and get like my name: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08&feature=player_embedded
If we do not, our way of life will be gone forever. We will become a nation that just does as the top elite says we should do. If you cannot see that, I implore you to stop being fake, and drop out of Oathkeepers, if you actually are members, as you cannot be trusted to do the right thing when the time comes.
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:18amEvery Oathkeeper I’ve known has libertarian leaning. I am a proud member of the Oathkeepers.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:42am@American Soldier (Separated), That is what I have been saying to these FAKES on here. It absolutely makes me MADASHEII for fakes to come on here and disparage the name of our organization that is there to defend our country against the tyranny that is coming. I appreciate your support and if you are not already an OathKeeper, please go to our site and register. I am a lifelong member, but you can join in other ways. https://oathkeepers.org/oath/join/
Anyone else that wants to join, please go to the link, you do not have to have prior service to join, and you can help in many ways.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:00am@American Soldier (Separated), I am sorry, for some reason, I missed the part where you said you were already a member, Please spread the word to get as many as possible to join, we are going to need as many as we can get with the mindset of all these Republican wannabe Conservatives. Libertarians are the true Conservatives at this point, The vast majority of registered Republicans are lost.
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Stoic one
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:42amMADASHEII
I submit for your consideration, that the majority of the registered Republicans are uninformed conservatives. They are too busy with their personal lives.
I took my wife to watch “2016 – Obama;s America” on Weds. — it actually frightened her. She considers herself informed (by osmosis).She is starting to see what the danger is.
I work with the public, and I SPEAK OUT what my views are; and ask those I come in contact with to show me that I am wrong. I am still waiting.
The time for ‘political correctness’ is past. Call a spade a spade; with proper English grammar. To use a metaphor – shout from the rooftops that the “Emperor has no clothes” to all that can hear; many will listen – some will act.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:11am@Stoic one, Please read my new posts above, they are eye openers I hope. It is not just Obama like the film makes out, it is both parties and we had better wake up fast or we will lose all the freedoms we hold dear. Godspeed to you and your wife, make alliances with all your friends and family, hold on to them dearly, pray for our future and prepare for a dark future ahead. I am beginning to believe that that there will not be enough people to wake up soon enough.
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jdog777
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 1:54am“immediately stop sending money to regimes who clearly cannot or will not control their own countries.” Gary Johnson… I thought you were a Libertarian. The correct statement would say…”immediately stop sending money to regimes who act like lawless animals.” If you are a Patriot… Please get out of the race and stand behind Mitt Romney. We can not afford another 4 years of Obama. We certainly don’t need a spoiler.
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AmericanPatriot
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:02amSo true! When will people realize that third party candidates will never garner enough votes to win. All they are accomplishing is allowing bad politicians to stay in office, thereby, playing a major role in the destruction of this country?
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:20amAnd when will you understand that the two party system has brought us to the mess we have today? Do you think we can continue to do what we’ve been doing, what has destroyed our country, and fix it at the same time?
Insanity. Doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. I refuse to fall for that any longer. I will be voting for Johnson in November.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:23amAmerican Patriot, Your mindset is the reason that a third party cannot win. You are so blind into the party system that you cannot see that the two parties do not care what you think. At both Republican and Democrat conventions they showed their disdain at the “Voice of The People” that they ignored their Nays to positions that were atrocious to both. They did what they were going to do, turned a blind eye to the peoples nays, and followed the teleprompter at both conventions. Is that the America you want?
What if it was your voice of opposition that they ignored? Would you feel the same way? This is tyranny, and I for one will not stand for it, as I believe that the voice of “The People” outweighs the voice of the elite. Maybe you think the elite should tell us what we can and cannot do, but I do not.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:45amI am going to do what is right – not what is popular. I will be campaigning and voting for Gary Johnson. The rest is in God’s hands
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DarkJello
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 1:52amLogical statements. He played it safe, never directly criticizing anyone.
I imagine someone will link specifics of his foreign policy proposals.
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Mutiny
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 1:51amI cannot vote for this man over his abortion stance.
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jdog777
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 1:55amKilling Babies is not Libertarian in the least.
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sillyfreshness
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:01amHis stance on mentally ill gay marriage is a problem too. That’s two strikes.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:07amMutiny, I understand your stance, I am pro-life also, however, Governor Johnson is not a typical pro-choice candidate. He is not for late term abortions, he does however have a stance of a woman’s right to choose to the viability of the fetus. This issue will never be solved. There is too much opposition on both sides, but at least Gary Johnson takes the position of Ron Paul more than either of the other candidates that it should be a state issue. He is pro-Ron Paul. Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xrU6hTWyj6s
Ron Paul is out and I am sad because of it, not that I did what was necessary during his campaign, I did not do what I should have and I regret that now, but I have, as you guys say, woke up. Too late, but nonetheless have. Ron Paul when asked what he thought about Gary Johnson, said; “He is wonderful.” If that is not an endorsement, without giving an endorsement (since Ron Paul wants everyone to make up their own minds), then I do not know what kind of endorsement Ron Paul could ever give. Gary Johnson, being a candidate that speaks truth, said that if the right to life issue is the only issue that someone decides to vote for a candidate on, he will probably not get that vote, but he hopes that his other policy views will outweigh that issue. He is for Individual Liberty, Auditing and ending the FED and IRS, Ending the Unconstitutional wars, sound money and very limited government.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:19am@Jdogg77, Gary Johnson is a Republican that leans Libertarian. He is not a perfect candidate, but who is? Romney? Obama? At least Gary Johnson is for Liberty, Freedom and small government. What else do you want from a candidate that will be on the ballot in all 50 states? I was going to vote for Romney, but the BS that he and the RNC did at the convention to take away the promise of any candidate like Ron Paul or Gary Johnson, woke me up finally. Now all of you that were yelling at people like me to wake up, will fall asleep just because of a Right to Choice issue? When it comes to that, even though I do not believe in abortion, I would say it is more in line with an individual freedom issue. Who is anyone to tell anyone what they can or cannot do? I find it terrible to have an abortion and I hope and pray that nobody in my family would ever consider such a thing, but I am not going to tell someone else that they have to do as I say or believe, and I now consider myself a Conservative Libertarian.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:38amI had to come back and reiterate something that may make you think farther on this subject. I read a post a while back that says a lot. “If a candidate has to move to the right, left or center to win your vote, they are lying to you.” That is a true statement. Ron Paul personally believes that life begins at conception, he does not change that view, but he puts it in the hands of the states to decide. So he is not against a state deciding if abortion should be legal or not, that is Constitutional. Gary Johnson believes that life begins at the viability of the fetus, but he is also for the states to decide, so he is also going by the Constitution. Personal belief should have nothing to do with Constitutionality. So therefore, he and Ron Paul on are the same page when it comes to that. Do not discount a candidate that believes in the Constitution, just because his personal belief does not coincide with yours. The Constitution is the biggest issue on the plate and I think Gary Johnson passes that test.
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Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:21amDidn’t Ronald Reagan Outlaw abortion? Naw.Did Not Happen Then.George H Bush? Nope. George W. Bush? Nope.Who has the Majority on the Supreme court? Did they outlaw abortion?
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:21am@Mutiny, You know me and I know you. You have to trust me. I will have more information just before the general election. Please trust me. If you want more info, create a yahoo account that you will never use for anything else, reply to me with your new e-mail and I will e-mail you.
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