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See Christian Pastors Rapping (Yes, Literally) to Encourage Thousands to Participate in ‘Back to Church Sunday’

Sep. 13, 2012 8:24am Billy Hallowell

Whether you’re a regular churchgoer, someone who has fallen away from attendance — or an individual who has never, in your life, been to a worship service, “National Back to Church Sunday” will have something to offer you. The initiative, aimed at encouraging Americans to attend local houses of worship, will involve thousands of churches across America. Pastors are so fired up for the national effort that they’ve even put together a rap video to help advertise it (see below).

On September 16, 2012, the campaign will culminate, as churches have been inviting citizens for months to give church a try this upcoming Sunday. The initiative, unique in its own regard, relies upon Christians to inspire and invite neighbors, friends and community members to go to church with them.

In 2011, more than 7,600 houses of worship participated, according to the “National Back to Church Sunday” web site. And at a time when so many are questioning faith’s role in the nation and examining whether churches are dwindling in their influence, the end result of the campaign was an average 25 percent increase in attendance on the designated day.

On the official web site for the event, the following reasons are given for why Christians — and churches — should get involved:

It’s a catalyst – Pastors give a call to action; communities have a rallying point
It’s simple – All churches, one date, one clear message – come back to church!
It’s personal – It empowers members to make a personal invitation to church.
It works – On average churches saw a 26% increase in attendance on Back to Church Sunday.
It’s grassroots – It’s powered by the people, not a program
It empowers – People are energized by an inspiring event and easy-to-use invitations
It’s free – Churches don’t have to buy anything or use any of our resources – it’s simply a great idea that works by just doing it!

While the goal for 2012 was 10,000 churches, the group has already attracted 12,752 churches. Getting involved is easy, as the program provides a five-step plan that provides tips and resources for individuals and houses of worship, alike. There’s even a useful church search tool that helps connect people to local congregations.

The grassroots campaign takes on some viral tenets as well, with comical videos and a robust social media presence. Take, for instance, the pastoral rap video that encourages citizens to participate (viewed on YouTube almost 139,000 times):

And then there are some comical videos depicting awkward and unpalatable methods of inviting un-churched peoples to worship. Here’s one (for the entire list of videos, go here):

The campaign has attracted some high-profile attention, as well. Bethany Hamilton, the 20-year-old who lost her arm in a shark attack when she was only 13, has joined in to help support the initiative. In a press release announcing her support, she stressed the importance of growing up as part of a church. The experience, she said, brought her encouraging friends who have helped her live a Christian life.

“My church is a place where I can develop friendships with others that will encourage me in my walk with Christ,” Hamilton explained. “I hope you can find a church too. National Back to Church Sunday is a great time to start looking for a church that suits you.”

Find out more about the back-t0-church initiative here.

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colt1860
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:14pm
I’ll stick to Old Hank’s “I saw the Light”:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVr0M7WCBu4

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- bbrown2
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:03pm
  Yawn…fairy tales!
  
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- colt1860
  Posted on September 14, 2012 at 1:24pm
  Fairy tales?
  
  I guess your rights come from men dressed in fairy outfits?
  
  I don’t recall Washington taking his Constitutional Oath on Disney’s Peter Pan novel.
  
  Mine’s come from the Creator of the Universe, and Supreme Governor of all that therein is.
  
  “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness… We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions…”
  
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colt1860
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:11pm
This 35 minute video will do more to turn people to God than those 3 minute religious rap videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec5dJHtMTSg

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Eblaze44
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:58pm
Yes, please come back to church – we NEED your money – you think the government rips you off with taxes – wait until we pass the plate.
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- HumbleCitizen
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:20pm
  Unlike taxes, giving to the collection plate is voluntary. You do not have to give if you don’t want to.
  For those that do want to give, it is their right to give their money how they please…same as for you…so stop hating.
  
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- ltemp
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:51pm
  Eblaze
  He he. You gave me a good laugh. You are right, money changers and charlatans is the lot of them. The money is not for the pockets of those in the pulpit! It is for the poor and needy of the body of Christ. Judas is their example, not Jesus. I pray they will see the error of their ways before it is too late.
  
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TEARS FOR AMERICA
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:40pm
And while worship focuses on the Sovereign Lord, and His mercy and love in the midst of a very wicked nation that has lifted up the massacre of millions of innocent, fostered pedophiles and rampant pornography, thrown Him out of the schools, I think it sad that we have to “remind” or “beg” people to get back into church. While I love America with all my heart, she needs to repent before He judges us harshly…

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- Eblaze44
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:04pm
  we need your money – wait until we pass the plate.
  
  This ISN’T about coming to WORSHIP GOD, it’s about filling pews to collect money. Most have replaced God, deifying his son. They do not get “THOU SHALT HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME” and don’t start with the trinity stuff – that began in the 4th century – three hundred years after the resurrection and ascension of Jesus to stand at the RIGHT HAND of the Father. What part of “In my Father’s House” don’t you understand.
  
  But then churches are mostly social hedonistic gathering places – send in the clowns to dance and rap for their god. It’s all about the money in your pocket – and hardly about even “salvation” while they lead you down the crooked path to a very warm place they will preach at you about.
  
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chucksue351
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 1:53pm
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- BarrySoretoro
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:10pm
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=D9vQt6IXXaM#!
  
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Earl P. Holt III
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 1:40pm
No one with an I.Q. over 100 needs to ask why memberships in the “mainline” Christian Churches have fallen like a rock: These churches have been taken over by communists and ******* as surely as public education…

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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:54pm
  Too true. I hadn’t thought of that before.
  
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- Eblaze44
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:06pm
  Mainstream churches are after your money – pass the plate please. Evangelical churches FAVOR Obama – though every action he takes declares him to be a Muslim who denigrates the Christianity he hides behind to get elected.
  
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CATSUEY
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 12:15pm
“The days are coming,” declares the Sovereign LORD, “when I will send a famine through the land–not a famine of food or a thirst for water, but a famine of hearing the words of the LORD. Amos 8:11 How about just teaching the Word in church? Why is that not sufficent?

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- WhiteFang
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 12:46pm
  How can they teach the truth from the Holy Scriptures if they do not know it?
  
  They have to resort to theatre, because they are empty suits.- Matthew 23:27-28
  
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- Hanner
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 1:08pm
  They can’t teach the word or expound the truth because they don’t know it. Wisdom and understanding come from God. Example: the Apostles. The Lord personally chose and taught those men as an example to all other wannabe ministers, priests, preachers, …..etc. God chooses His own preachers!! He teaches them the understanding of his word and he teaches them how he operates in our personal lives. This kind of teaching takes a special relationship with the Lord that most people don’t have. Example: Moses, the prophets of OT, apostles….etc. Are they better Christians than us, NO. They are simply the ones that God had chosen and taught his ways so they could teach others. So my point to all this is this: These so-called preachers, priests, pastors, and whatnot of all these churches are NOT chosen by God to stand in the pulpit. If you will notice in the NT that whole cities and mountainsides of people would flock to the the Lord and the Apostles ministries. They didn’t have to worry about attendance. They were hunted down by the people. Why? Because of the power of God manifested through the gifts of the Holy Ghost. Those gifts are only given to true believers with the right calling and relationship with God. It’s what separates the truth from fiction. I’ve heard some on here say that they have turned away from God because they haven’t seen anything to make them believe in him….I rest my case about these false teachers.
  
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- ICanComment
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:01pm
  Please, please, Church in America – enough with the gimmicks. The gimmicks just turn seekers off that much more. The people in America who are already wary of any kind of religion can smell phoniness a mile away.
  
  Here in New England, nearly everyone is jaded to “religion” and just about any brand of Christianity. No one here wants catchy music, theater, lights, cameras, or any other nonsense. They want to see you put your money where your mouth is and live out your faith, and even then they’re suspicious. It can literally take years to get to know anyone here to the point where you can even be open about your faith. It’s pretty evident here that even the slightest iota of fake Christianity does a hundred fold more damage than the good that it was intended to accomplish.
  
  I think this is probably also true in the rest of America, at least among seekers and the younger generations. Be who you say you are. Live out your life in obedient faith, be open about your own faults, show people genuine love with no strings attached, and don’t get in people’s faces. The Holy Spirit is the only One who can change anyone’s heart, so start praying. No amount of hoopla, 10 step evangelism magic, latest cure all book, or so called Christian culture will change anything. It’s all a heap of nothing – Christ alone is the answer. Until we realize this, the Church in America will continue its decline.
  
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- Eblaze44
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:10pm
  How about WORSHIPING God. How anyone can sit week after week and be “sermonized” at and pay someone to do it is beyond me. They call it a worship service – it’s entertainment to fill the collection plate. And every knee shall bow and every voice proclaim that Jesus is the Son of God – not God – his is the kingdom of this earth – King of Kings and Lord of Lords – ONE world government – a theocracy that will Worship God his Father because Jesus paid the price.
  
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watashbuddyfriend
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:36am
Why beg someone to come to your church (notice: with a small c) because you do not have anything to offer? Former Church goers, and the young, are hungry for The Truth (Bible Doctrine). So, find a Church, and not a church, where there is a Pastor-Teacher presenting The Truth. Now, I must say, there are vary few Churches that can supply you with The Truth. I know there is one in every major southern city (over 100-thousand population) that is an off-shoot of Berachah CHURCH, Houston, TX.

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- Hanner
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 12:30pm
  These churches are so far gone that they will do anything to get attendance. Only God has the power to draw people by the convicting power of the Spirit. If Rap, Rock, and every other form of entertainment is being used by these churches, then I have to ask this question, “WHERE IS GOD IN ALL THIS?” There is a mass exodus in all of these churches because the people know in their spirit that they are not being fed the truth and it has turned them off. When the real deal shows up they will return.
  
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- WhiteFang
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 12:57pm
  Hanner,
  
  When the real deal shows up, they slam the door shut. – Matthew 24:37-39
  
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- Hanner
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 1:17pm
  @whitefang Too funny. You have a point. That is why the Lord has to build a new house and start a new revival.
  
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- WhiteFang
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 1:35pm
  Hanner,
  
  In Jesus’ prophecy about his ‘presence’ and of the conclusion of the system of things, he mentioned this; 45 “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?46Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.47Truly I say to YOU, He will appoint him over all his belongings. Matthew 24:45-47
  
  Since it is obvious that the world is in it’s last days, does this indicate that the spiritual revival has already taken place?
  See also Daniel 12:3
  
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- Hanner
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:06pm
  @whitefang: We are in the last days for sure. The bible shows me that God is just and merciful and I fully believe that. If the Lord returned today, how many people would actually be ready to go? These churches are in shambles and many people are just plain lost. Even a bunch in these wrecked churches. Here’s how I believe it to be: God will pour out one last mighty revival just like in the early church to prepare his people to escape the wrath to come. Those that are left to face the tribulation will have truly begged for it, because they will be showed God’s supernatural power and mercy before it comes upon them. I looked up the Azusa Street revival, and read up on the things that went on back then. It was prophesied back then that a greater revival than that one would come in about 100 years, and it would go into all the world. Guess what…we are in that exact time today. I believe that prophesy because I can look around and see the desperate need for it. The Lord always shows up in the darkest hour to deliver his people.
  
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- WhiteFang
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:12pm
  Hanner,
  
  Can we identify who the “faithful and discreet slave” would be?
  That would be good to know, so as to not waste time looking in the wrong direction.
  
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- colt1860
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:39pm
  The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is another corrupt religious organization.
  
  “We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the ‘faithful and discreet slave’ organization,” (Watchtower, Feb. 15, 1981, p. 19).
  
  The only Teacher, Counselor and Help for me is the Holy Spirit.
  
  The WT is like the Roman Catholic Church, and other corrupt churches, that believe that it is the one true church or religion on earth. Blasphemers, I’d say.
  
  “Only this organization functions for Jehovah’s purpose and to his praise. To it alone God’s Sacred Word, the Bible, is not a sealed book.” (Watchtower, July 1, 1973, p. 402).
  
  The WT believes that without them, one can’t truly be saved or approved by God.
  
  “We need to obey the faithful and discreet slave to have Jehovah’s approval.” Watchtower 2011 Jul 15 p.24 Simplified English Edition
  
  The WT also believes that without them, the Bible can not be understood accurately.
  
  “[A mature christian] does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or harbor private ideas when it comes to Bible understanding. Rather, he has complete confidence in the truth as it is revealed by Jehovah God through his Son, Jesus Christ, and “the faithful and discreet slave.” Watchtower 2001 Aug 1 p.14
  
  “Since Jehovah God and Jesus Christ completely trust the faithful and discreet slave, should we not do the same?” Watchtower 2009 Feb 15 p.27
  
  I’ll trust God alone, and study H
  
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- colt1860
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:56pm
  *and study HIS word.
  
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- WhiteFang
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:58pm
  colt1860,
  
  I see you know what some Watchtowers say and and your selections are taken out of context but you are correct. Do you find it strange we would have such confidence in the identity of the faithful and discreet slave? The slave has to be real, it cannot be a falsehood.
  
  What is your opinion, based on scriptural evidence, as to who that slave is? You tell me, I will listen.
  
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- Hanner
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:00pm
  whitefang: Yes. That faithful and wise servant would be whoever remains faithful to God and his word until he returns for his people. Why do I have the feeling that you’re not buying into the revival thing?
  
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- WhiteFang
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:20pm
  Hanner,
  
  The revival of true Christian worship is connected to the emergence and the identity of the faithful and discreet slave. If we can identify who meets the qualifications of being that slave, then we can have confidence in their spiritual direction.
  
  The evidence points to that revival as having already taken place.
  
  http://www.jw.org
  
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- colt1860
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:21pm
  “Out of context”? Those are pretty straight forward comments, regardless of their context. Heck, I studied since I was a kid with the JWs. NONE of it is out of context.
  
  Matthew 24:45-47 is not referring to an organization or formal assembly of men, at all, especially not to some earthly incorporated body of men. It’s referring to the individual man, not to an artificial entity or specific group of people.
  
  “Every one of us shall give account of himself to God.” Romans 14:12
  
  “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.” 2 Corinthians 5:10
  
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- WhiteFang
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:36pm
  colt1860,
  
  Thank you for your reply.
  Your quotes are out of context in that there is surrounding reasoning’s and scriptures that lead the reader to logical conclusions. However the quotes you selected are indeed accurate and I have no problem with them.
  
  I would like to ask this though; Who is the faithful and discreet slave according to your understanding?
  
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- colt1860
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:41pm
  I already answered your question. See my comment on Matthew 24:45-47, from which that phrase is taken.
  
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- WhiteFang
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:03pm
  Colt, you said ” It’s referring to the individual man, not to an artificial entity or specific group of people.”
  
  Thank you for your answer.
  
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garbagecanlogic
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:14am
If you have to rap to get folks back to church, perhaps you are barking up the wrong neighborhood tree. What next, gansta rap?

Praise Be To Obama. Psalm 109:8

The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
The U.N. Out Of The U.S.

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- rangerskippy
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:23am
  good comment
  
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ltemp
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:11am
(national marketing scam) National Back to Church Sunday, an initiative of Outreach, Inc. (check it out yourself)
This isn’t about God or church if it was true leaders would be going to church on the Sabbath as Jesus did, not as the world counsel of church’s do (Vatican owned one world church).
Eric Abel of Outreach, Inc. “Most people in America have been to church, yet only 20 percent are regular attenders,” he explains. “Statistics show that every week, we lost about 150,000 people in churches. People leave for a variety of reasons — many don’t believe in organized religion or they’re just too busy with life. But one of the main reasons [they offer] is that Christians are judgmental and hypocritical sometimes of people who don’t fit in.”
This is a salesman gimmick. Blame and victimize (sound familiar?).
National campaign for Babylon and her sisters to swallow up more victims. Their concern is money not you. (NOTICE!), all the reasons fall on the unattended (guilt) not on the lies taught in the pulpit. Lies and deception drove them away and now they try to draw you back with guilt.
Go to the Bible and pray for the truth. Worship on the sabbath, the true day of worship. Jesus will find you where you are and the cost is His not yours.

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- THERAPTURCOMES
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:18am
  Worship on the Sabbath???? I am gentile and have no sabbath. Christ is my rest and my faith upon Him is what saves me Romans 10:9-10 Not the sabbath
  
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- ltemp
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:19am
  A simple word of truth comes to my mind. (Charlatans)
  
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- ltemp
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:46am
  @therapturecomes
  The Sabbath
  Exodus 31:13,20:11,
  Acts 13:44, 17:2
  Hebrew 4:9
  Matt 24:20
  Luke 4:16
  The Commandments;
  Exodus 20:8
  Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
  But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
  Rev 14:12
  Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
  
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- ltemp
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 12:18pm
  Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
  Faith comes by what? hearing
  Hearing comes by what? the word of God
  What is the word of God.
  1 John 5:2
  By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
  Rev 12:17
  And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
  
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- THERAPTURCOMES
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 12:19pm
  LTEMP
  
  Acts 15 is where the apostles gathered to deal with this very issue and guess what, the Law was never given to the GENTILES and the LAW cannot save
  
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- ltemp
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 12:33pm
  @therapturecomes
  May you be blessed in your walk with God.
  
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- Hanner
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 12:36pm
  Romans 14 v 1-8: Paul teaches that every day is the Lord’s day and to not condemn others for not worshiping on your specified day.
  
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- ltemp
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 12:58pm
  Although I wish I could teach a Sabbath lesson and many other lessons but, I cannot. I’m just happy that you all at least have a Bible ( it was not always that way, many believers in the scripture lost their lives for others to read for themselves the word of God) . I pray that you study for yourselves what the truth of scripture is and the Spirit of the Father is in you, concerning His Son Jesus. The world has had thousands of years to deceive and disguise the truth of God. The blind will lead the blind into the pit. Follow the testimony of Jesus and keep the commandments of our Father in Heaven. A blessing on you and your families.
  
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- chucksue351
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 1:45pm
  the renewed (yes renewed not new) covenant is to the house of Israel and the House of Judah, so you can see poor gentile you are right you have no Sabbath, you need to engraft into the true assembly of Father YHVH (god’s name for the pagans) which is Isreal read chapter 2 of Ephesians
  
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- ltemp
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:50pm
  @Chuck
  Well said, The spirit of truth is in you.
  Salvation was given to Abraham and his seed (Jesus Christ) Genesis 22:16-18 (obedience through faith in his heavenly Fathers gift of salvation (Jesus Christ his only son)) This gift is not a right for men, but an inheritance of faith (blessing). As the Father and Jesus blesses the Sabbath as the day of worship so it is with salvation through the inheritance of faith in Gods commands. We are, as you said,”engraft into the true assembly of Father”. The Father blesses us through those He chooses (Jesus) and things He chooses (Sabbath) not who or what man chooses. Thank you for your blessing. I like the assembly of the Father.
  God bless you today
  
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- colt1860
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:55pm
  “Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.” Acts 15:21
  
  Romans 14:1-8 is speaking about fasting days. The key words here are in verse five, “One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.” This passage, and its surrounding context, does not mention the Sabbath, or any holy Day, or any day declared and commanded to be observed by the Lord. The only days one had an option to “esteem”, as a personal preference and choice, where those concerning fasting and praying. Daniel, the Apostles, the Judean and Israelite Kings, Isaiah, and other prophets, regarded these fasting and praying days as they saw fit or deemed necessary, under their own discretion. Even during Jesus’ time on earth, some of the Jews complained that the disciples weren’t fasting right along with them. Fasting and praying is something we do to get close to God; not to be seen as religious among others, or more pious than others. It’s an expression of our personal relationship with God, not men.
  
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- ltemp
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:05pm
  @Colt
  I am humbled by the knowledge and understanding of scripture in attendance throughout this blog, yours included. Thank you for your added comment on special days also called sabbath that were not necessarily on the seventh day (Sabbath). This is where the confusion usually loses people. There were two laws that were kept in the most holy place. The ten commandments inside the ark of the covenant and the laws of Moses that were placed beside the ark. These were the laws of the nation . Which included laws pertaining to Sabbaths in general. Jesus talks about the laws of the Jews which burdened the people instead of freeing them to keep the Sabbath in the spirit of the law. ( a great example is our constitution that has been burdened by stacks and stacks of laws) His coming replaced the Sanctuary service, not the ten commandments. The commandments reveal the character of God. If people don’t like the commandments how can they think they can live with Gods character for eternity? If the Sabbath is void, then so are all the others. I should be able to steal or covet my neighbors wife. The law connects us with Gods Character without the law we are lawless which is sin. Jesus was also under the law (the ten commandments) were He to break one of these laws (including the Sabbath) He would not have be accepted as a spotless lamb before the Father. In reflecting the character of God we must live in the spirit of the lamb who was perfect under the law.
  
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Gonzo
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:54am
Whatever it takes to get people to listen I guess. They would have a better chance of attracting me by scratching their fingernails across a chalkboard than with rap…but if it works for them go for it.

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- CATSUEY
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 12:18pm
  Agreed….hahahaha.
  
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Dushman Kush
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:37am
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful. Seneca (ca. 4 BC – AD 65)

Now that dominion over the world belongs to the Communist International, it is proper to acknowledge the complete compliance and assistance of the World Council of Churches and of the National Council of Churches. Were it not for these “religious institutions” and educators, our goals would not have been achieved so promptly. Comrade Romney will make a fine President. Comrade Soros and I approve this message.

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- jungle J
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:52am
  What else does the common man have to sooth his pain?
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:05am
  Romans 1 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
  
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- THERAPTURCOMES
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:06am
  This whole system is not of God it is of satan. It is nothing more than emergent church garbage at its worst.
  
  Whenever you use the world to attract the world you end up with a world apostate church. It is like trying to use rock and hip hop. it is disgusting
  
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- ltemp
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:34am
  @kush
  “Now that dominion over the world belongs to the Communist International”
  Dominion over the world belongs to who?
  Communist??? and I thought these Charlatans were delusional in thinking they were really interested in Gods people.
  The counsel of churches destroyed Russia with their communist dribble back in the 80′s and they’ve been falling ever sense. The power is in the Vatican, not the Kremlin.
  
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rangerskippy
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:31am
I believe preachers would do well to study the great awakening. Prior to Jonathan Edwards (not the warped Dem Senator, but the preacher in the 1700s) giving his sermon Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God, he got down on his knees, and for three days he did not eat, he did not sleep, he did not drink. For three days he prayed, and that sparked a revival that moved up and down the east coast.

There were no gimmicks, no light shows, no rock music, no filth from the world. He preached directly from the Bible, he preached on the Holiness of God, and he spent considerable time in prayer before doing so

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- TEARS FOR AMERICA
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:44pm
  Wonderful post, thank you, sir.
  
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Fubar Frog
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:29am
What a “novel” idea, to bad it appears to be more of a ‘novelty’. Did ‘Weird Al’ produce this? Maybe if more “christians” would act Christ-like, then maybe those who aren’t christian, or haven’t been to church in a while would be interested in going. My wife and I went to a local church for years( I was even on the board), then we noticed that a lot of the people were talking about other people behind their backs, and for a while we joined in, we had to ask ourselves if this is what Jesus would expect of us. Needless to say we are looking for a new church. Actions speak louder than words, and if that’s what a non-christian sees a “christian” doing, then you really can’t blame them for not believing, or others for not wanting to join any church!

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Wango
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:26am
Ah yes, religious freedom. You can’t even manage within your own churches. Admit it, it’s all about you and nothing about God. So sad that you’ve reduced yourselves to playing a zero sum game among zealots.

I’m praying for you, because I’M a GOOD Christian, unlike you people.

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- jungle J
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:53am
  No joke…define good Christian.
  
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- Wango
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:00am
  Good Christian = W.A.N.G.O.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 12:52pm
  Wow Wango is a Christian… who knew. After all this time I thought you were an atheist.
  
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:25am
I know that pastors are trying to get people into church but sometimes I think that churches bring too much ‘worldliness’ inside the doors and they become no different than the world around them.

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maflo96
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:15am
It’s amazing how blind Pastor’s can be…especialy the judgemental ones. You guys are attacking rap and the very creative way that the Pastors in that video are reaching out!! There’s some real wisdom lacking here. Rap or the music is not the problem and never has been. It’s the individual heart behind it and the intention there of. I am involved with many Rap artist who do a way better job of evangelizing using the gift of lyrical expression based on God’s word. If an unsaved person comes to church through the enticement of rap, hears the word of God and get saved..do you believe God will reject him. Heck NO!! Don’t allow cultural prejudice to stain your godly wisdom. Rap consist of words and if its the Word of God it will not return void..regardless of how we view it! So let God’s word reach a culture thats clearly being lost and let the church repent of its owns internal sins then we will see God move!! Remember …If My people..!!

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- Jezreel
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:40am
  The spirit of Christ should be present and exaulted when people come together to worship. Because Christ has “left the buildings”, pastors have to create gimmicks to try to get people to come to church so they can get their paychecks. It is all a bunch of nonsence and Christ has nothing to do with it anyhow. Christ has only been manifesting himself to the body of Christ. He has left organized religion because organized religion has continually rejected truth and since God is only obligated to honor his word, he is not obligated to honor powerless programs and gimmicks. A true anointed man of God would not partake in foolishness. I didn’t even bother to watch the video because it is all the same. Hirelings that have to figure out way to entertains the masses. Of course, people who enjoy the empty social aspects of gathering together on Sundays will probably love it because it is the “world”. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. Sunday mornings are not the “assemblying of the saints”. They are gatherings programmed by man whereby they twist the word of God and preach tithing to pass the plate so that hireling is sure to get his paycheck. True men of God never retire and do not receive retirement benefits. It is all of the world and God is not in it.
  
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- maflo96
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:09am
  Wow Jezreel You must be God’s right hand man. You and the Holy Spirit must play cards every Wednesday night. Your verbage and attitude is the very reason the lost is growing and the light of the church is quickly dimming. If we in the church cant get it right what should the outside think about us.
  Heres a scripture for you…..’They shall know that you are my disciples by the way you LOVE one another” Jesus said that but you probably already know that!
  
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Freedom1984
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:13am
I am very saddened by all the negativity that this issue is getting. So what if the four Christian Leaders used “rap” to try to get people’s attention. They are not hurting anyone. Perhaps, just perhaps they influence just ONE PERSON to attend church… then they have SUCCEEDED in their MISSION.

I hear so many people complaining that as a Country we have taken “GOD, and pushed him away”…. so now here is a chance to try to INVITE GOD BACK INTO OUR LIVES….. and there is so much hostility because of how it’s being done????

I am very confused. I am a Catholic, and enjoy the rituals of the Catholic Church. No, they do not “rap” there, and it’s very full of rituals, but for me, it’s what I like.

I really don’t “get moved” by the large Christian Speakers and their audiences (and please, I am NOT TRYING TO OFFEND ANYONE…..) If those Christian Services WORK for you, than YAY!!! It’s the place for you to go. I thought it was very creative to show that the Preacher was in “Chucks”, and used more of a modern theme by showing that his sermon is on an I-PAD. Again, it’s not MY style…but if it EFFECTS even ONE PERSON… then HOORAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We NEED GOD back into our Country… and well, I am just amazed at how negative so many people’s comments are about this. Rather than understanding the message that “WHY NOT INVITE SOMEONE TO CHURCH???”

Let’s get the word out there. God is for EVERYONE.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
AMEN

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- rangerskippy
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:30am
  @Freedom
  
  “So what if the four Christian Leaders used “rap” to try to get people’s attention”
  
  So what if they use marijuana to bring them in? How about crack?
  
  Jesus never used the filth of the world to bring in sinners. He preached on sin, and gave them the gospel, proceeded with much prayer. He did not travel with a group of jugglers, jesters, and attention getters. He just gave them the gospel.
  
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- tljjjjcline
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:46pm
  +The word of God is sharper than a two edged sword. It divides and it separates righteousness from unrighteousness. It is not there to make you feel good, It is there to convict of sin. All your silly rituals and all the gimics will never replace the truth of God. I know you don’t want to offend anyone but the name of Jesus is a rock of offense and a stumbling block to the wicked. You may want to consider the word rather than feel good ritual.
  
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Twinspeedr
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:09am
You don’t put lipstick and mascara on Gods Word, this is NOT how God wants to be preached and evangelized, IMHO. Rap is a vessel for praising the ways of man and glorifying him. I have a feeling God is not pleased by it in the first place:.

From Deuteronomy 12:30
“do not inquire about their gods, saying, ‘How did these nations serve their gods?—that I also may do the same.”

Mathew 7:6
“Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you.”

Teach them the TRUE Word of God, from the Bible. Show them how the problems they live with are all solved by God’s Holy Law. If they receive it? Great! Praise YHVH! However if they do not:

Mark 6:11

“And if any place will not receive you and they will not listen to you, when you leave, shake off the dust that is on your feet as a testimony against them.”

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fobama
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:57am
This makes me not want to go to church! I wanna here about end times, the times we are in!

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- thegreatcarnac
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:22am
  You are right. That is the topic that is fast becoming relevant.
  
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single stack
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:49am
If you want to persuade me to never set foot in your church that’s probably the most effective way to do it. I find rap disgusting, idiotic, offensive, and puerile. I have no respect for anyone who listens to it.

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- kickagrandma
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:01am
  Boy, it is BIBLICAL when the BIBLE talks about end times and the followers of the beast are stupefied in their allegiance…. scary thought.
  
  I find rap absolutely disgusting. This video is low-life I think.
  
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- Wango
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:23am
  KICKINGRAMMA . . .Keep spreadin’ ya some hate there, biddy.
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:39am
  sounds like truth not hate
  
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- Wango
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:01am
  RANGERLIPPY . . . For conservatives they’re the same thing. That’s why you’re so confused.
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:26am
  Wango
  
  Libs ignore truth, logic, history, and do not believe Bible. Lost on all fronts
  
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Tankertony
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:18am
Its like using poop to clean your house.

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- rangerskippy
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:43am
  preachers would do well to study the great awakening. Prior to Jonathan Edwards (not the warped Dem Senator, but the preacher in the 1700s) giving his sermon Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God, he got down on his knees, and for three days he did not eat, he did not sleep, he did not drink. For three days he prayed, and that sparked a revival that moved up and down the east coast.
  
  There were no gimmicks, no light shows, no rock music, no filth from the world. He preached directly from the Bible, he preached on the Holiness of God, and he spent considerable time in prayer before doing so.
  
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tljjjjcline
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:01am
You know I have served the Lord for over thirty years and these pathetic attempts to fill the seats are nothing more than gimics. Who has the best coffee or who has the best lights or entertainment. Then they hear some dead dry platitudes or boring message they can’t even relate to. How about preaching the whole council of God and not just telling people what they want to hear. Yes the gospel is good news for those who truly have it but you need to call your people and this nation to repentance for we are truly under the judgement of GOD. If they are not ready for what is about to come upon this nation they will be offended at God and will shake there fist at him. It;s time to stop soft pedaling the gospel and tell the whole truth. Sin all sin needs to be addressed. Tell me pastor are the sinners and unredeemed sitting in your church comfortable or are they being convicted of there secret or open sin. Are you building character in your people or are you building numbers. Here’s a nugget, Numbers do not equal anointing. I know some of you will say as always what are you doing Mr. know it all? Well I just got under your skin didn’t I Truth always hurts but it will set you free.

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- The_Jerk
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:08am
  So true.
  
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USPATRIOT101
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:42am
Stories like this are so stupid. Should we all be thrown back on our heals that anyone “rapped” anything? Who is this guy trying to reach out to? Is it the ignorant masses that think it’s ok to denigrate women, smoke weed and hate the police? The last thing I would ever want to do is attract anything or anyone from the rap / hip hop culture and ask them to hang out with me.

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- roach
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:50am
  You obviously know nothing about rap and the artists. Dont speak on things you know nothing about, it makes you look like a bigot/moron.
  
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- BenInNY
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:55am
  Well it is a little different from the norm right?
  There’s a parallel hip hop culture that doesn’t have the traits you listed. Either way, what’s wrong with trying to draw in some of the younger (and likely lost) crowd in an effort to change their paths? Seems like exactly the type of people you’d want to come into the fold to help change their lives, right?
  I’m an agnostic, so I’m coming from an outside perspective here, but it just seems logical to me.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:56am
  Church is not about God anymore, and it’s been that way for a while.
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:00am
  The most glorified occupation in rap is the Pimp. Enough said.
  
  I call it rap, and not rap music for a reason. Music is a balance, and is a combination of beat, rhythm, melody,…
  
  Rap is a beat with lyrics. There is no melody and you cannot hum the melody of rap song, thus it is not actually music. It is a beat with words.
  
  If you go to your local jail or prison, you will find rap to be the listening choice of the violent offender.
  
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- Freedom1984
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:05am
  Actually, I think you are wrong.
  
  I, too, dislike rap music and the images it brings. I live in Albany, NY where there is a HUGE GANG PROBLEM….and I have no desire to hang out with these people. I think the message the “rap song” was giving, is that WE ARE ALL WELCOME to ANY CHURCH…. We all know that different churches, of different variations, of being Christian ARE DIFFERENT…….
  
  But the point is, it’s a church and people are worshiping together. It may seem a little kooky…but I found it quite funny to see a Catholic person “rapping”…….. that is not what a Catholic Service is like…but he was right about the “woman who plays the organ”.
  
  I think they really tried to be creative, and to really encourage and INVITE EVERYONE to ENTER A CHURCH THAT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE IN. Perhaps it’s not that bad of an idea, with all the violence in the world lately…. why not spend a few hours on Sunday, even just mediating, thinking of some higher power, other than yourself.
  
  After all it may not help, but it can not hurt.
  God Bless.
  And I hope to see you in CHURCH on SUNDAY.
  
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- BenInNY
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:14am
  @rangerskippy half the new rap out there has singing in it and so does quite a lot of the older stuff. Putting lyrical content aside for the moment I can list 20 rap artists/groups off the top of my head (and I’m not even an aficionado) that rely pretty heavily on melody in the music, if not in the words. Sounds like you’ve given a cursory listen to .0001% of what’s out there and decided that’s all there is.
  
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- BenInNY
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:16am
  @Freedom1984 Well would ya look at that, two Albanites in here :)
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:21am
  Freedom1984, it’s entertainment, not worship. Funny, I don’t ever remember any stories about Christ bringing jesters along when he spoke the word.
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:28am
  @ the Jerk
  
  “I don’t ever remember any stories about Christ bringing jesters along when he spoke the word”.
  
  That is an awesome and relevant comment, and also would apply to the so called “Christian Rock” crowd.
  
  He reached them with the gospel, and he preached on sin, he did not rap sin up in a shinny package and offer it back to them.
  
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- Freedom1984
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:35am
  @Benniny: Wow…. I too am AMAZED that there is another Albanite who is not only on this site, but must also be CONSERVATIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yee-haw!!!!!
  
  God Bless You, My Friend!!!!
  :)
  
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- NOTMOHAMMED
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:38am
  Violent rap and hip-hop are nothing more than conditioning. Nasty, brutal misogynistic lyrics over a big ‘bottom end’. That is to say, the lowest frequencies affect us the most. Hear the homies lately in their cars? You can hear the bass three blocks away. (I can’t help but wonder if they’re trying to outdo one another, like two bulls snorting out their message. Those ganstas think they’re so sly with their ‘secret signs’ and messages.) The low bass frequencies can’t even be distinguished by the human ear location-wise. You feel them, yet you can’t tell where they’re coming from. Like evil. You subscribe to it, yet you don’t know why. It’s only conditioning. It can be fought and won.
  
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- BenInNY
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 9:55am
  @Freedom1984 Haha, yeah well I’m actually about 5 minutes away across the river, but the same place when you get right down to it (and more easily recognized by non-NYers) – thankfully we’re upstate and the left/right ratio is more like 55/45 :) Bunches of us around.
  
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- USPATRIOT101
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:06am
  Roach , nice try. Your intellectually weak argument holds no water. I spend quite a bit of time researching things I form an opinion of and rap / hip hop is exactly what I described it as. I can make a macaroni necklace and demand everyone admire me as an “artist” but you have to admit when crap is just plain crap. Go hit some more blunts while you jockey yo hos, yaknowhatimsayyin?
  
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- USPATRIOT101
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:09am
  Beninny you don’t try to lure someone away from a polluted lifestyle by legitimizing the very thing that is the root of the problem.
  
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- antitheist
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:19am
  @RangerSkippy
  You have the worst definition of music I’ve ever encountered. Just because you can’t hum a song, it’s not music? So I guess Pierrot Lunaire by Arnold Schoenberg isn’t music? A lot of rap uses chromatic harmony, with your way of thinking we would still be stuck with Gregorian chant.
  
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- ObamaBinBiden
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:21am
  @ beninny and 1984: i am a saratogian! And to stay on topic, this whole thing is seeker sensitive crap, and to those apostates that are using rap as a tactic to get more people in the church, let them be anathema! !!
  
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- guz75
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 10:23am
  @RANGERSKIPPY
  ‘There is no melody and you cannot hum the melody of rap song, thus it is not actually music’
  
  Well it’s a good thing ignorant, numb nuts like yourself don’t get to decide what music is then.
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 11:07am
  guz75
  
  I am not looking to impress the mental midgets that get jiggy with it.
  
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kickagrandma
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:31am
Wonder where GOD will be Sunday?

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- political junky
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 8:58am
  I doubt if God will appreciate the rap and the preachers who are catering to this garbage instead of just doing what they should do and follow the dignity of men who are suppose to be disciples of God.
  
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