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Texas Cop Shoots Suspect 41 Times — And Police Confiscate Cellphone With Photos of It All

Sep. 13, 2012 2:53pm Liz Klimas

A police officer in Garland, Texas, is under investigation after he he shot a man 41 times. But as if that wasn’t controversial enough, a witness who took images and video with a cellphone is angry after police confiscated the memory card containing the possibly damaging evidence.

The Dallas Morning News reports that the incident occurred after midnight on Aug. 31 when Officer Patrick Tuter spotted a white GMC pickup truck driven by Michael Allen who was involved in a police chase . Allen turned into a dead end, and trapped by Garland police was first reported to have hit a squad car as officers were trying to prevent his escape. It was this that lead Tuter, fearing for his life, to open fire.

Garland, Texas, Police Officer Investigated for Firing at Suspect 41 Times | Department Confiscated Witness Cellphone

Allen's damaged truck being towed from the scene. (Image: KCEN screenshot)

This week though, review of the squad car’s dashcam reveals it was the police vehicle, not Allen’s truck, that did the smashing. A witness in the neighborhood, Mitchell Wallace, said he heard the commotion, heard the officers yelling for Allen to get out of his vehicle and they opened fire before he emerged:

After Allen pulled into a driveway at the end of a cul-de-sac in an attempt to make a U-turn, his truck was pinned between two police cars with one of the police cars striking Allen’s truck from the front, said Wallace’s 17-year-old son, Cameron.

“From the time they yelled, ‘Get out, get out,’ they didn’t give him three seconds to get out,” Mitchell Wallace said, adding that he counted about 20 bullet holes in Allen’s truck.

The Dallas Morning News reports by the time Wallace and his wife made it to their porch to see the scene, Allen was being taken out of the car by a police dog that allegedly bit him on the neck and jaw, according to Wallace’s account. Allen was killed in the events of that night but an autopsy has yet to determine cause of death.

Watch this KCEN TV report for more details on the event:

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It was Wallace who took cellphone photos and video after the shooting had stopped. The Dallas Morning News reports Wallace saying police took his phone and returned it four days later — without pictures or video. In a separate report, though, the Dallas Morning News reports police saying they did not delete the content, but are in possession of the memory chip that still has the images and video still intact.

Carlos Miller, with the blog Photography Is Not a Crime, takes issue with the authorities confiscating Wallace’s camera, which he writes under state law requires a court order unless it was used in the crime. Miller writes other circumstances where it could be taken without a court order would be if there were a “strong belief that the witness will destroy the photos, therefore destroying evidence.”

TheBlaze has reported on Miller before when he was arrested at an Occupy event earlier this year, which he was documenting as a photojournalist. Miller, who advocates for the right to film police in public, took footage of his arrest, which he then says was deleted from his camera. He was able to recover the footage and is now suing the Miami-Dade Police Department for these actions.

As for Allen’s case, Tuter’s attorney John Snider told the Dallas Morning News that “at some point, while trying to prevent the suspect from making an escape, Officer Tuter did feel in fear for his life and was justified in firing his weapon.”

Tuter is reported as the only officer on the scene who fired any shots and he did have to reload to get off 41 rounds.

The Dallas Morning News reports Garland police spokesman Joe Harn saying that an investigation is underway to “find out exactly why he started shooting” in the first place.

(H/T: Reddit)

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Comments (162)

spfoam1
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:30pm
Eric Holder is sending the officer a job application.

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- sillyfreshness
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:21pm
  Here’s another example of why laws that ban citizens from filming cops beating and killing people should not be allowed. Only in a communistic police state would the government and citizens be okay with not filming cops.
  
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- Vote-The-Obama-Romney-Ticket
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:42pm
  “Texas Cop Shoots Suspect 41 Times — And Police Confiscate Cellphone With Photos of It All”
  “Tuter is reported as the only officer on the scene who fired any shots and he did have to reload to get off 41 rounds.”
  
  41 rounds = murder
  confiscated camera = cover-up
  
  So, how’s that “standing army”, which the Founders warned about, working out for you?
  
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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:12pm
  Did they use those new Government issue 357 magnum hollow points? What made him stop shooting, did the gun overheat or is this just a lie and several cops were shooting.
- muffythetuffy
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:16pm
  The lives of those witnesses are now in mortal danger. The COPs will kill them now so there isn’t any evidence. All of you people who own white trucks better be very careful. If they used those Obama hollow point bullets there would not be much of that victim to pick up.
  
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- jhaydeng
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:38pm
  “But this one goes to 11 !”
  
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- CS_GUY
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:40pm
  Sad but true………….
  
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- Individualism
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:02pm
  The state of Taxes and yes i mean taxes cause there taxes are high especially property tax, is such a fascist police state and the justice system there is a nightmare, one little wrong move and your trapped in it over there.
  
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- WATER-THE-TREE
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:11pm
  BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM ……. Freeze, put your hands where we can see them…… He’s not complying, BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM!!!!
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:19pm
  That cop is Romney’s choice for Secretary of State
  
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- hayesstephen
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:36pm
  This yust the beginning of whats is coming to us in 2013, no matter who is in the White House. We slept while the politicians grab power they never should have had. Thank you, you Liberal Trash. Good bye to the Republic of the United States of America. We once were the envy of the world.
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:58pm
  Again, how many rounds does it take a cop to put down a single perp? This guy needs to be put behind bars.
  
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- WindyDualism
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:35pm
  Indy
  I have a spare white truck you can borrow.
  
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- forthepeople
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:54pm
  Why would you tell them ( on yourself ) that you had them ?
  
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- busterpuddles
  Posted on September 14, 2012 at 6:37pm
  You mean a generous offer and a “Welcome Aboard” packet.
  
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- Billca
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:00pm
  @muffythetuffy – Your comments show your disconnection to reality.
  1. The .357 Magnum is a revolver cartridge. Modern police use semi-auto pistols.
  2. Your comment about cops killing witnesses is loony and offensive at best or paranoia at its worst Maybe we should be more worried about people who see everything as a “gubmint conspiracy”.
  3. Your attempt at portraying the cop as a jealous gay lover is incredibly stupid, juvenile and homophobic.
  It’s obvious by the lack of content in your posts that you know nothing of what it’s like to be a cop, have no knowledge of procedures or have anything to contribute. In short, I think you’re talking out of the wrong orifice.
  
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- Billca
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:04pm
  @Warmunger_Al
  
  Or they should put him back on the shooting range for some marksmanship training!
  
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oicu814me2
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:29pm
Sir, why did you shoot him 41 times? (Officer replys) I ran out of bullets..

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- mtsnj
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:58pm
  If he had just one more magazine he would have hit him too. Looks like someone didn’t have their coffee and donuts before his shift.
  
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- Duddio
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:11pm
  He was trained in NYC…. thankfully, no one else was hit.
  
  I also wonder why no other police officer called on him to stop? He must have reloaded 3-4 times to get 41 shots off.
  
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- PROTECTNEXTGEN
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:00pm
  I’d say so, too. Is there a service pistol that even holds 20 rounds per magazine? He would have had to have reloaded at least twice. Are they sure only one officer fired? Good heavens. I hope there is more to the story.
  
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- Billca
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:12pm
  @ProtectNextgen – there are a few pistols used by police that will accept a 20-round magazine. Usually those magazines are only available to LE officers though. The Glock 9mm Model 17 holds 17 rounds in a standard configuration. One can get an extended floorplate to add +2 rounds in civilian markets so it’s possible that one magazine change (plus one round chambered) was all it took.
  
  My questions would be why the officer wasn’t making hits (I doubt all 41 shots hit home) and why he opened fire so quickly once the guy was boxed in. Lousy marksmanship is inexcusable unless one is being fired on.
  
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PointBreak
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:23pm
I gotta say, I’m more afraid of the cops than I am of the criminals. I can fight back against criminals. These roving bands of armed, violent, tax collecting state-sanctioned thugs are terrifying. They’ll shoot you, your dog, your kids, homeless people, the elderly, beat women and violate every right you have only to be put on paid administrative leave until it blows over. We got a areal problem with our police force America and it needs to be addressed.

‘To Protect and to Serve’ – when was the last time you saw them do either?

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- DimmuBorgir
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:28pm
  Black much?
  
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- U.N.hater
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:29pm
  Q: What is the largest well armed gang and is above the law in america? A: The unionized U.S. police force.
  
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- Flag-Man
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:34pm
  If they don’t belong to Oath Keepers, I don’t trust them.
  Semper Fi
  
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- DimmuBorgir
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:48pm
  @ UN HATER
  
  I thought it was the M13 gang, amnesty for illegals and all
  
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- mikem1969
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:49pm
  DIMMU, that was uncalled for. He happens to be right. Cops can no longer be trusted, especially UNION cops.
  
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- onirot
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:51pm
  To the comment “Black Much.” You’re an IDIOT if you think you have to be black to justifiably be at least wary of the police. I’m not generally afraid of the police, as I’m a late 30′s clean cut looking guy who drives a conservative vehicle and doesn’t draw a lot of attention to myself… but if I’m pulled over I immediately hand over my CHL and keep my hands where they can see ‘em, b/c concealed is harder when you’re sitting in a car with a seat belt, and the last thing I want is to be shot for the perception of moving towards my gun over a speeding ticket, but if it happened it’d probably happen 33 times (with a reload) and be justifiable. You literally have to be asleep to not hear or see the examples of over the top behavior on the part of the police. How many dogs have been shot by police in the last 6 months for virtually no reason, what about the woman (not black) slammed into the ground not once, but twice (the story ran on The Blaze) for “resisting” well seems like an awful lot can be construed to be resisting, and darn it–I’m just not sure that all of it would jive with original intent or civil rights.
  
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- TheLeftMadeMeRight
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:51pm
  My question is about the who hit who’s car first. You see, the officer knows if you ram his car with yours, you have committed assault with a deadly weapon on a law enforcement officer, a pretty heavy felony that warrants the use of deadly force. If the suspect did not hit the officer’s car as the officer stated, then he committed a false statement to justify the use of deadly force. Which is it?
  
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- johnjamison
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:58pm
  That’s why indiana just past a law that allows it’s citizen the protect themselves from the nazi police state.
  
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- DimmuBorgir
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:59pm
  IT’s not a far stretch when Black kids are taught as soon as they can talk to call cops “pigs”
  
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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:13pm
  I think the cop said that he could “feel him about to resist”.
  
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- reallypissed
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:21pm
  Hey Dimm, I’m white, retired military, clean record, and I agree the cops are out of control. I do worry more about them than criminals.
  
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- DTR
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:21pm
  I’ve seen them protect and serve a lot actually. Most police officers get bad wraps because of a few bad apples. Granted, they should not be on the force in the first place (and that is the responsibility of the department), but most cops are good people. In this situation, we don’t know what happened. Maybe he was wrong, maybe he was justified. Right now the only people who know are him and the Man Upstairs.
  
  A little story for you. My buddy was a narcotics officer for the Army out of El Paso a few years ago and shot a man 16 times. The man was high on PCP and had a gun in his hand the entire time. He was court marshaled for Excessive Use of Force and found not guilty. Now he was justified, but the headlines could have easily read “Soldier Under Investigation For Shooting Suspect 16 Times.”
  
  Just saying, don’t jump to conclusions until you have all of the facts.
  
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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:27pm
  @DTR,
  
  Your friend is either a terrible shot or was using a .22.
  
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- DTR
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:54pm
  @Rothbardian
  
  Actually he was using a Sig P226 9mm and is one of the best shots I know (myself included). The problem is the 9x18mm Parabellum rounds. It being a super sonic round causes it to travel through the first thing it hits. Plus, since he was using ball ammunition (standard issue), there was no additional stopping power as opposed to hollow points. Shooting center mass with that ammo will not knock your target down and since he was high on PCP, he didn’t feel a thing.
  
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- Not_A_Useful_Idiot
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 6:28pm
  The statement of “to protect and serve” is misleading. It means to protect and serve the interests of the the local government, and nothing more. I’m sure you can guess what those interests are. I’m not making it up. You cannot sue your local PD for failure to prevent or stop a crime.
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:06pm
  DTR-
  There is no justification to fire his gun 41 times, even if he though he was in danger to begin with. On top of that he had a dog who dragged the dude out by his neck…This cop is a murdering POS
  
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- WindyDualism
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 7:42pm
  DTR
  I hear you. Let this story play out – then do a ride along if you still feel all cops are bad. Do a 3rd shift ride along. 2 sides to every story.
  
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- Billca
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:33pm
  Every cop gets painted with a broad brush because of the slimeballs and jackwagons in uniform. Sadly, this has been going on for at least 30 years with the cops cultivating an “us vs. them” attitude towards the public. Statements like yours only serve to reinforce that idea in their heads. It’s their belief that most civilians _have no idea_ what cops have to endure every day. They believe people like you are itching at the chance to “hang one” at the first rumored allegation of possible wrongdoing.
  
  We see and read about decent cops doing things FOR people every day. Burning car rescues, saving a drowning child, delivering babies and even risking the encounter with a protective dog to rescue an old woman with a heart condition (yes, without shooting the dog).
  
  I’m more worried about the militarization of the police, drone use and the over-use of SWAT teams to serve traffic warrants or mere misdemeanor warrants. I worry about the police administrations that support officers who come off as aggressive and threatening to ordinary civilians (i.e. people they know have no wants, warrants or records). I worry about people who think police should have more power almost as much as those who think cops should treat them the same deference as a restaurant waiter. If cops will arrest and ticket people and say “there’s no excuse” for doing something wrong, then they should be held to that same standard very rigidly.
  
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Back To Reality
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:22pm
41 times? I have doubts that the cop connected 41 times. Research has shown that for police officers firing their weapons in the line of duty, the best hit-rates are about 20%…meaning that only about 2 out of every 10 bullets hit the perp. If he actually hit the guy 41 times, most likely he fired far more than 41 rounds, although it is theoretically possible he pulled the trigger 41 times and hit the guy 41 times.

Many questions. What prompted him to fire so many rounds? What prompted him to stop at 41? Why not 31? Or 51?

What prompted him to fire at all?

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- Hanner
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:36pm
  Be glad it wasn’t a NYC cop that was behind the trigger. Perp-2bullets….Local residents- …..well you know the rest
  
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- dont_drive_slow_in_the_left_lane_obliviot
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:36pm
  maybe 20 round magazines plus one in chamber = 41 rounds. This is possible with a Beretta 92 and Mec-gar 20 round magazines and perhaps other makes and models. Or an old school 1911 with 4 10 round magazines. or just randomly stopped once he thought he was being watched or filmed as most officer sidearms have a 16-18 round magazine plus two spares.
  
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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 5:22pm
  Was it a homosexual lover breakup. Could the COP have been outraged and gone ballistic when he saw his ex-lover riding around in another ex-lover’s pickup truck. Most COPs are very MOCHO and all that kind of stuff. One of the Village People was a COP.
  
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- Billca
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:36pm
  @Hanner – that’s because of the heavier trigger-pull on NYC police weapons, mandated by the idiots and lawyers who run city hall They’ve mandated extra pressure springs for the triggers of their guns in the name of safety.
  
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The-Monk
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:21pm
I’m surprised a Cop had a semi-auto clean enough to fire 41 times without jamming.

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- DimmuBorgir
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:28pm
  Probably wasn’t a Glock
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:48pm
  Hi MONK, I certainly have found this particular article to be disturbing. Back in the late ’70s and early ’80s while viewing training films on police shootings, I can remember the interviews of cops who had unloaded their weapons into armed suspects who had attempted to kill them. One in particular was a state trooper who while conducting a traffic stop had a driver who said his wallet was in other clothes in the trunk of his car. He allowed the driver to enter his trunk then spotted him pulling a weapon and began to spin his body to face the trooper. The trooper drew his weapon and fired until empty, and was still pulling the trigger as his back up approached. That is how scared crapless he was during the event. That could happen to anybody, but there was an outcry about him committing overkill. He had after all fired all six of the cartridges in his issue revolver. Six rounds was seen as overkill then. I saw nothing in this story about a weapon being recovered from the perp’s truck. This has become madness, and the cities, counties, and states making laws about video recording police is even more frightening. I was taught back in my day to even expect to be video taped at any kind of involvement with the public, and to be on my best behavior at all times, regardless of what happens. When the laws cover their collective butts, some cops will think they can get away with anything….obviously.
  
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olddog
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:16pm
Well Hot Skunk I got the Q bbb’s….

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Snake
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:15pm
41 rounds fired??

“(“Officer Tuter did feel in fear for his life and was justified in firing his weapon.”
Tuter is reported as the only officer on the scene who fired any shots and he did have to reload to get off 41 rounds.)”

A trained professional fired 41 rounds at a suspect still sitting in his truck. Reload my butt, he reloaded more than once.

This is insane!!

Cops can no longer be trusted!!!!!!!!!!!

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- jman-6
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:21pm
  Amen! I’m beginning to think the same thing!
  
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- texastommy
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:50pm
  It took that many shots to hit the guy once. Cops are notoriously bad shots.
  
  Like the old joke: Who put the last bullet in Mussolini? A thousand Italian sharpshooters.
  
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- 00100111
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:22pm
  For certain he reloaded more than once. Even if he had a 17 rd mag in a Glock 17 he reloaded twice and let fly 7 rds of his third mag. Dude was on a mission to kill this guy.
  
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jman-6
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:14pm
I wouldn’t have gave them my phone without a court order. I suspect there’s more to the story or he feared the cops would kill him. Wonder if the son recorded any of it. This sounds crazy seems like every week there is some cop killing someone!

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- BasketFullOfPuppies
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:42pm
  The police don’t have to threaten you, in order to make you wonder what’s going to happen if you refuse… It’s just like when they “ask” if they can search your car during a routine traffic stop. I’ve never refused. But, I also knew I didn’t have anything to worry about. I haven’t been asked in a long time, though, and my mindset has changed a lot. So, if you read about me being shot dead by the police, don’t refuse a search request….
  
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- loriann12
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:31pm
  I’ve only had to deal with Garland police one time. I got threatened by a neighbor when my husband was out of state. It was right after Fort Hood and i had my flag upside down and apparently a mason told his vietnam veteran brother and he come over drunk and threatened me. The police made extra rounds of my house and upheld my right to display my flag upside down. I must have gotten a good one. We righted the flag when Walker got elected. We’ve wanted to hang it back upside down, but apparently it gives the Vietnam vets flashbacks, so out of respect for them, we don’t hang it at all. It is at half mast right now for our Ambassador.
  
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- katzkiner
  Posted on September 14, 2012 at 12:58pm
  After they just shot a man 41 times I would give them my phone, wallet,car keys and social security check. Hell you won’t get shot that many times by squad of Iraqi police with full auto.
  
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olddog
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:14pm
Folks don’t just to conclusions the true story is that the officer was sitting cleaning his weapon and it accidentally went off 41 times and they merely confiscated the camera to be helpful and clean the lense for the owner..Jeez not good deed goes unpunished..

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The-Monk
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:14pm
Kind of hard getting out with a Police car slammed up against the drivers door.

And if was wearing a seat belt and had his hands up in the air he would not be able to slide over either.

Also, the Police apparently didn’t think he was armed…. Police never tell an armed person to get out of a vehicle.

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HotFixIt
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:11pm
Anger management.

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:32pm
  Ya think Charlie Sheen will be of any help here?
  
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Obamujahadeen
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:09pm
“when Officer Patrick Tuter spotted a white GMC pickup truck driven by Michael Allen who was involved in a police chase .”

Disclaimer for O voters: ANY TIME YOU RUN FROM THE POLICE you open yourself up to being Rodney King’d when they catch you for running. Get it?

That’s how the real world views it, and if I was a cop and you led me on a chase with a vehicle endangering myself and everyone else, when you’re cornered and won’t put your hands up and get out of the $%^&*() car you get shot 1000 times if that’s what it takes.

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- jman-6
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:18pm
  I get your point but I hope you were exagerating a little! I think he was pinned in looking at the pic showing the truck door caved in.
  
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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:25pm
  Glad you’re not a cop. Right?
  
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progressiveslayer
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:04pm
So why was he being pursued? Did he look at a cop cross eyed? We need details and if there’s anything on the memory card I’m sure the police will make sure to preserve it.

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- 13th Imam
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:10pm
  Ordering a pizza on his cellphone
  
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- texastommy
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:34pm
  This is Texas. They thought he was a Democrat.
  
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Cuthalu
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:03pm
Count on the video/pictures being “accidently” deleted. Oopsie.

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- Walkabout
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:20pm
  Wi fi upload it to the cloud.
  Ya, wifi isn’t available every where, but it might be in the not so distant future.
  
  In the meantime carry an extra card. swap’em & hide the other card.
  
  Scree crooked cops.
  
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- Lothmar
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:20pm
  “Ok, who thought it was a good idea to store the electronics evidence next to the giant magnet we confiscated in the evidence locker!?”
  
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Oneirishman
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:03pm
Wow, he was reloading and the other cops were just taking a coffee break? Good this the dead guy was white or they would be in deep DooDoo!

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BOMUSTGO
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:02pm
autopsy has yet to determine cause of death????? How about “High velocity lead poisoning?”

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- Lothmar
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:16pm
  There were so many bullets, you have to determine which one caused the death – could it be the punctured lung, heart, arteries, etc. Sadly he could have missed or landed most of those bullets in non vitals and then the dog could have coup de graced since it said the dog was chewing on the guys chin/neck. So many things could have done it – most of it that officers fault dont get me wrong.
  
  I think it’s less paperwork for every shot that hits in comparison to every shot that misses, I wonder how busy this guy is going to be after this?
  
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- MrTesla
  Posted on September 14, 2012 at 5:52pm
  Man dies of natural causes, officer gets 4 week vacation.
  
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OldGringo
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:01pm
Fire them All…

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thegreatcarnac
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:01pm
Let’s see the film.

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DimmuBorgir
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:00pm
I just don’t belive a cop fired, reloaded at least three times just because he was a “bad” cop.

So i think either;
1. the cop had a mental breakdown/issue (not an excuse)
2. there was a reason that many shots were needed.

I don’t think it was just a bad cop being a dick and murdering someone cause he’s got a badge.

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- single stack
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 4:01pm
  I do. 2 or 3 reloads is an execution, not a self defense shooting.
  
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:00pm
It’s funny how some personalities will sit in a cubicle all day or some other type of office, and make the claim they know how police are because they knew one or someone they trust told them police are good.

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- DimmuBorgir
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:15pm
  What’s really funny is I’m reading all the comments and not one person has said anything like what you are accusing.
  
  Read the posts first maybe?
  
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billrow
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:00pm
We are officially living in a totalitarian police state.

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walnutportconservative
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:00pm
This amount of rounds fired is understandable… recalling the huge volume of ammo purchased by government organizations the past several years.

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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:59pm
The guy making the video with his cell phone is fortunate the police did not up and shoot him as well anymore.

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KangarooJack
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:58pm
Ah, forget it. The suspect is WHITE. This will be a NON-story.

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- DimmuBorgir
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:02pm
  Very true, If his name was Treyvon we wouldn’t hear the end of it
  
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- FREEDOMoverFEAR
  Posted on September 13, 2012 at 3:04pm
  LOL I watched Tulare County Sherriffs Dept. murder Shane Mariott in my backyard on my 12th birthday. He was accidently released from jail and they thought he had a gun. LOL I watched to whole thing he was running they were shooting. He didn’t have any weapons on him. This happens all the time. In 2010 3.23% of the convicted murderers were police officers while only less than a thousandth percent of American citizens were convicted of murder.
  
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 13, 2012 at 2:57pm
Police don’t like change, and they really don’t like people doing their own thing.

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