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Romney Revealed: Leaked Footage Shows GOP Candidate Claiming 47 Percent of Americans Will Vote Obama Because They Want Gov’t to Take Care of Them
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Mother Jones on Monday released undercover footage of Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney candidly addressing donors during a private, off-the-record fundraiser.
“There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it,” the former Massachusetts governor can be heard saying.
“That, that’s an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax,” he continued, adding “so our message of low taxes doesn’t connect.”
“[M]y job is, is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”
The video was shot at a fundraiser in Boca Raton, Fla., held at the home of private equity manager Marc Leder on May 17, Mother Jones revealed late Monday evening.
There’s more. There’s audio of Romney joking about how his election chances would be strengthened were he Latino:
And there’s audio of Romney claiming he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth — and then the video just cuts out:
However, here’s the full quote not included in the original YouTube video but included in the Mother Jones article [emphasis added]:
There is a perception, “Oh, we were born with a silver spoon, he never had to earn anything and so forth.” Frankly, I was born with a silver spoon, which is the greatest gift you can have: which is to get born in America.
As of this writing, it’s still is unclear who shot the video. All that’s known is snippets of it were originally uploaded to YouTube last month by a user named “Anne Onymous.” Mother Jones has supposedly obtained the full, uncut video from this user and they intend to release more in the near future.
After the footage was released, Obama campaign manager Jim Messina issued the following statement:
It’s shocking that a candidate for President of the United States would go behind closed doors and declare to a group of wealthy donors that half the American people view themselves as “victims,” entitled to handouts, and are unwilling to take “personal responsibility” for their lives. It’s hard to serve as president for all Americans when you’ve disdainfully written off half the nation.
Oh, is it now?
At the same time, Romney campaign communications director Gail Gitcho released a counter-statement:
Mitt Romney wants to help all Americans struggling in the Obama economy. As the governor has made clear all year, he is concerned about the growing number of people who are dependent on the federal government, including the record number of people who are on food stamps, nearly one in six Americans in poverty, and the 23 million Americans who are struggling to find work. Mitt Romney’s plan creates 12 million new jobs in four years, grows the economy and moves Americans off of government dependency and into jobs.
UPDATE: Romney called together a last-minute news conference Monday evening to address the video. He claimed his “off the cuff” remarks were not “elegantly stated” but that he stands by the “jist” of the video.
“Well, you know, it’s not elegantly stated, let me put it that way. I’m speaking off-the-cuff in response to a question, and I’m sure I could state it more clearly and in a more effective way than I did in a setting like that,” Romney said.
“And so I’m sure I’ll point that out as time goes on, but we don’t even have the question given in the snippet there, nor the whole response, and I hope the person who has the video will put out the full material,” he added.
“But it’s a message which I’m going to carry and continue to carry, which is, look, the President’s approach is attractive to people who are not paying taxes because, frankly, my discussion about lowering taxes isn’t as attractive to them, and therefore I’m not likely to draw them into my campaign as effectively as those who are in the middle,” Romney continued.
“This is really about the political process of winning the election. Of course, I want to help all Americans, all Americans, have a bright and prosperous future and I’m convinced the president’s approach has not done that, and will not do that,” he added.
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1froglegs
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:39pmI wonder if the LA Times will release the Obama tape they have been hiding for 5 years.
soybomb315
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:51pmThere is no such thing as “lost” voters. Only voters who have not heard or realized the truth. We need candidates who can show them the truth – not ignore them.
You think Reagan would give up on 47% of the population? Heck no – he would try to win them with principles. Cmon people
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Leadthemtothelight
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:52pmI guess the truth hurts. If people are offended perhaps they should ask themselves why they are offended by Romneys comments?
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resme
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:04pmAbolish the Income Tax, and the IRS!
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DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:10pmSOYBOMB315 – How do you take a single mother sitting home receiving a check, food stamps and Medicaid…and tell her she’s better off working? Not going to happen – not for most of them. They’re lost, unless you force them…and who’s going to do that? Plus, there are a boat load of males who have grown up with absolutely no work ethic and no pride thanks to the Democrats. They go to jail, they mooch off of the single mothers who receive checks and they sell drugs. Most of the illegals and many of the legal immigrants coming into the country from south of the border and Northern Africa will take a check over a hard days work any day of the year – they grew up with nothing and that check looks great to them. They’ll be happy with a check, Telemundo and some chickens penned up in the back yard. Unless we find a way to force them all to work, these people are lost as long as you have diabolical Marxists promising a check for a vote.
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bolsen00
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:13pmRomney hit it dead on…those voting for Obama do want a hand out in one form or another…whether it’s healthcare, food, money, citizenship, gay marriage, abortion, birth control, utilities, union freebies…they want more government and less personal responsibility.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:15pmWell, Mitt just stuck his foot in his mouth, and why? Because he is a fake, rich, snob in real life, and he always will be. He is part of the banking system that is causing this nation to implode and you guys think he will save us. We picked the wrong guy. Now what do we do? If you have not listened to this interview, take the time to listen, instead of watching your favorite reality show, watch this as this is more important: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFii8vqVTTg&feature=youtu.be
cykonas
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:20pm@Soy
Come on, you know the deal. This is likely a fund raising gig for Romney and he’s trying to play to the audiences’ sympathies. He’s not really giving up on any voter. Like any politician he’d kiss Satans’ son or daughter if it meant he could get one more vote. But you know that. Peace.
soybomb315
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:23pm@cykonas
Actually, i have no idea how Mitt sees the world. I do know that the thinks the budget shouldnt be cut and that we dont spend enough on military. He is not a leader, he is a technocrat
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barber2
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:29pmMADA: poor Maja…..
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:31pmRomney says he needs the Independent vote, but he messed that up by treating Paul and his supporters terribly and then changed the rules, against the voice of the people, to keep candidates like Paul from getting any steam in any primary going forward. Idiotic, if you ask me. Now he will lose many of those votes that he says he needs. So what do we do? He will not be able to defeat Obama, just like he says, without them. I am voting for Gary Johnson at this point.
It seems that most people have more in common with Gary Johnson than Mitt Romney:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFii8vqVTTg&feature=youtu.be
Go here and try it yourself: http://www.isidewith.com/
barber2
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:32pmSOY: ” no such thing as lost voters.” Really ?? Try viewing an Occupy : totally LOST.
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jzs
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:43pmThis video isn’t going to help Romney much. The timing is bad too, coming on the heals of him attacking a statement of a Cairo embassy communication officer while at another middle eastern embassy American blood spilled on the ground.
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JBarr73
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:45pmSoy – these are vastly different times and this is not the democratic party of the 80′s or 90′s. No, this is a democratic party that is more concerned with power and running the country into the ground so they can start a new country without the Constitution. The unfortunate truth is that this 47% will NEVER change their minds because they are being given everything they need by the democrats and Obama. Why would you vote out the party that is giving you everything and only asking for your vote in return? Only when the gravy train runs dry will the 47% realize they made a huge mistake.
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Pat-Riot
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:49pmWow, Romney finally tells it like it is and the gets even more stupid just like the guy that’s voting for Obama in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTRqjpK6ScQ
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13th Imam
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:52pmSoyfart using Ronaldus Magnus?
Next it will be channeling Barry as Honest Abe.
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soybomb315
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:55pmanyone who is a christian cannot call these people lost. Are they not worthy of the gospel? Are they not worthy of the message of God’s intent for this country?
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nzkiwi
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:08pmIf this is true then it is the same ingrained entitlement mentality that got Greece into the trouble that it now has…
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mr.goodvibe
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:13pmSoy, no one is saying that their souls are lost, it is just their mind that is lost.
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dealer@678
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:30pmThat means 53 percent beg to differ. I’ll take that right now and go home
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The_Obama-Romney_Ticket
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:39pmsoybomb315 – “Actually, i have no idea how Mitt sees the world.”
Yes you do (now):
Romney-Kennedy Health Care Bill Signing in Massachusetts 2006
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4iTtNGjFY4
ROMNEY: “I wanna thank the many many people in this room who were critical to crafting and coaxing the bold health care initiative that I am about to sign. There are allot of parents to this initiative, as you know. I’m gonna mention a few by name and just a tiny part of their contributions. Senator Kennedy. Together we pitched the secretaries on our vision to insure all our citizens and on the need for Federal support to make the vision real. His work in Washington and behind the scenes on Beacon Hill was absolutely essential. It is now my pleasure to introduce my collaborator and friend, Senator Edward Kennedy.”
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Hobbs57
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:42pm@ Soy, your comments show ideological dumbfounded you are. Instead of defending the fact that the truth hurts, instead, you go off on some pipe dream that you support some weirdo or goofball, who is the leader of your lulu land…… No freaking different than these ignorant professors at college, you believe you are some kind of elite person because you are part of a club who is smarter than the rest. The problem that you, nor these professors realize, is the rest of us live in realville. A place where Ron Paul can’t win, and Gary Johnson is recognized as the cult leader he is. Obviously having nothing else to do with you lives, just like professors as well, nothing important anyways, you can come on here and post all day. …. Isn’t it clear to you folks that the power to be certainly aren’t in bed with Romney ?? Do you not watch the news ? Do you not hear even Rupert criticize him ? Unbelievable …
Why is the truth become such a problem in this nation ? Why is ok to hurt Christians feelings, attack conservative personally with bogus hurtful statements, yet, if the truth hurts somebody feelings, it is some big worry thing …. Unbelievable..
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BryanB
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:45pmHeres the problem with what I see people doing on here, and they don’t even realize what their doing.
Poor people didn’t line up in the streets and start demanding Food Stamps and Wefare from the Government. That has never happened.
Before there was Social Security, Old People didn’t say, Wait a minute, the Government needs to pay me a Retirement !!!!
All of this stuff was thought up by our Politicians and our Government. And not the People that now have to rely on just to get by, not live, just get by.
People on some of these Government Programs, Want to go back to work, but because of our Politicians and Government they now can’t. The Politicians have made a mess out of eveything.
I say “People on some of these Government Programs,” Because most People on Social Security can’t go back to work……..
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soybomb315
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:47pm@Mr. Goodvibe
Nobody is born a socialist. We have to understand that almost everyone in this country is a product of the public education system. With that in mind, if someone does not have decent parents or parents that are lefties – there is a high likelihood they will grow up to become apathetic or a tool for the left.
The 47% are that way because of their environment and their world view. I suggest it is time to break down the walls of ignorance with the fundamental truths that guided our country for so long: Freedom, Constitution, Peace, Small Government, Individual Freedom, Charity…..If we use those tools, no MSM outlet or communist president will be able to keep them. Or you can keep swallowing whatever garbage or excuses the two parties are offering you on a given week – the choice is yours
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Eastinfection
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:58pm@13th… you oughta know by now SOY is the king of pointing out “Honest Abe’s” dishonesty…. Reagan is tougher…. almost everything he said was recorded by somebody (at his insistence) …..”actor”.. ;) .. anyway… wait for 315 (freedom of information act) to catch up with THAT!
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banjarmon
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:59pmRomney is right… there is a percentage that will not vote the GOP no matter what…Those people are DUMB DEMS!!!
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GoodStuff
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:59pm@soybean
“We need candidates who can show them the truth – not ignore them. ”
The media has played you like a fiddle. Start thinking for yourself, instead of having the media think for you.
This is the biggest non-story in the history of non-stories.
Then again, you’re a Paulbot, so you’re already not the brightest.
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mr.goodvibe
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:03pmSoy- That is something I can agree with, you had me scared with your moral equivalancy argument style, looked kind of libbish to me.
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1947
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:03pmWhat’s wrong with the TRUE I was a IGA the other day an the was nine strong. Two out the Nine had EBT Cards. I thinks Romney was a little short of his % it’d more little 49.99%
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1947
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:08pmI have a friend who interviewed 32 people for a single job…..he only had ONE who wanted to WORK….the other just wanted him to sign the form because they showed up. One individual stated that Obama was taking care of him, he didn’t need that work. He just need someone to sign the form. That the GOVERNMENT WAY…….
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Eastinfection
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:22pm@SOY inre: BANJARMON:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA:
WTF?
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DarkJello
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:24pmRomney is WAY closer to the truth than Obama will ever admit publicly. Big government politicians–Ds and Rs alike–want an ever increasing number of programs. It is 100% unsustainable!!! The vast majority of those 47% are not ever going to vote for a smaller government type. Jesus could run against Obama, and Obama would still get most of these votes.
When Romney talks about decreasing gooberment jobs by attrition, slashing wasteful programs, and increasing jobs thus decreasing “free” money, I believe he means it. That is the key. Will America evolve to this new danger, or will we fail to adapt and then literally fail as a country?? The key choice is really that simple. Obama is promising–AGAIN–to cut the deficit by 4 trillion. He promised that 4 years ago. Dems had large majorities in the senate and house. They did not get it done because they never intended to keep that promise in the first place. THOUSANDS of lies later, we are now literally on the brink.
God help us all!!!
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soybomb315
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:25pm@Goodstuff
I am half criticizing Romney – half criticizing the attitudes of the posters on this page. In regards to Romney, this is further evidence that he is a politician and not a statesman.
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Marine25
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:28pmGov. Romney held a press conference to explain/apologize for his remarks this evening. Think his comments were not an utter political disaster: Romney held a press conference! He never does that. He looked like he knows it’s over, and I’m afraid it is.
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DarkJello
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:46pm@marine:
Obama constantly lies, but will win?
Romney is “caught” telling the truth, and he will lose?
If you are correct, America is done. Like stick a fork in it and go off the grid done…
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:49pmNah, it will be forgotten by the end of next week as the next crisis comes up.
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This_Individual
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:56pmRESME, nice flag.
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My Two Cents
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:57pmIn fifty one short years the Democrats have gone from “Ask not what your country can do for you – Ask what you can do for your country” to give me food stamps, disability, housing, health care, amnesty and a free cell phone.
Our nation won’t survive another fifty.
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Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:58pmI know one thing from reading these comments from the libs other idiots here, you can’t handle the truth and by the time you idiots see the truth, it’s way too late and much blood flows because of it. Oh well, I’m prepared as much as I can be, too bad for you.
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tmo
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 12:00amMy thoughts exactly – maybe Mother Jones or Jimmy Carter’s grandson can get the Rashid Khalidi tapes from the LA Times as a public service — we can’t even see a blurry version of that meeting — wonder why it’s so important to keep it hidden — hmmmm Mid East on fire anyone?
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Palter
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 12:14amWhat happen with a unity in America? not cutting people off as a lost caused….
Proverbs 31:8-9
Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute. Speak up and judge fairly; defend the rights of the poor and needy.
Zechariah 7:8-10
… “This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘Administer true justice; show mercy and compassion to one another. Do not oppress the widow or the fatherless, the alien or the poor. In your hearts do not think evil of each other.’
Deuteronomy 15:7, 11
If there is a poor man among your brothers in any of the towns of the land that the LORD your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward your poor brother. There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land.
1 John 3:17-18
If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of God be in him? Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth.
and last but not least, compassionate (I think this what Mitt was lacking in that speech).
Ephesians 4:32
Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.
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soybomb315
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 12:26amIf the republican party and Mitt Romney are going to say that they have no chance at changing the minds of 47% of America, then the republican party should DISBAND IMMEDIATELY since they are no longer capable of anything fruitfull
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DarkJello
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 12:32am@palter:
Romeny was discussing the reality of politics in America today. He was NOT talking about their value as humans, anything to do with souls, or some religious sermon. Obama is buying votes by offering “free” this, that, and the other. Additionally, if he cannot buy your vote he will try and suppress it with… lies, lies, damned lies, and naughty lies.
“When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty.” Thomas Jefferson
Americans are afraid, waiting for gooberment stuff, or wickedly happy at their evil success.
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MadAsHeII
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:02am@Bob_R_OathKeeper, “You can’t handle the truth” I believe you can’t handle the truth. You fly under a fake banner of being an Oathkeeper, but you do not act like one. If you would like to know the truth, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFii8vqVTTg&feature=youtu.be
You probably won’t, because YOU can’t handle the truth.
The truth is that Romney was not going to win anyway, but this major gaffe is going to bury him. Here is an interview with Jesse Ventura: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6mqPU9uOaM&feature=youtu.be With this kind of publicity, Mitt is going to go down in flames, and it has just begun. We nominated the wrong guy.
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anOpinion
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:04amHe could use this positively in a commercial …
“What would you rather have, a handout or a job?
If you are a taker that wants a subsistence living with little opportunity to get ahead, and a country that vilifies success, then vote for Obama,
If you are a maker that wants a job and country that puts no limits on your success, and celebrates it, then vote for me, Mitt Romney, “
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CobraBill
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:09amI don’t think Mr.Romney understands that many of the people who pay no federal taxes are hard working people who happen to not make a lot of money. Their deductions and children put them in to that bracket. Not all lower income people are democrats, or vote for democrats, or want anything from the government. Romney as an ass for saying such a stupid thing..
I will still vote for him even so, Obama is not getting the job done and democrats with their abortions rights will never get my vote.
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Want our country back
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:12amI love Mitt Romney but he has got to ‘NEWT’ the media. Their biased is such a disgrace and they need to be called out on it. The narative needs to be back on obama’s failures and nothing else.
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Palter
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:15amDarkjello, have you read the article above? here’s quote from Mitt:
“[M]y job is, is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”
Where’s the compassionate in that sentence? sounds to me that Mitt thinks that those people are just a lost caused. Sounds to me Mitt was just marginalized those people. So, there’s no need to appeal to those people, they don’t pay tax anyway and just living out of government money. They’re so dumb and afraid, so they will only vote for people who handed food to them, etc… Mitt speech was not trying to encourage American exceptionalism, that people who was born poor, brought up and get help from government is also a human and can full fill their American’s dream someday.
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DarkJello
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:30am@palter:
Truth > compassion. If whoever acts the most compassionate should win, then Obama is your man. He is superb at pretending all kinds of things with 1 hand, while doing something else with the other. Our government must be trimmed for many presidencies to come. Obama will continue to spend in an “irresponsible” and “unpatriotic” way–according to HIS own words.
Romney never said those people were “dumb and afraid”, just that they are taking the low road to mediocrity at the maximum. Too many Rs and Ds want even bigger government. This is 100% proven folly. Obama is NOT going to fundamentally transform America into a more successful country. Look at his track record.
“When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty.” Thomas Jefferson
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DLV
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:40amTo all conservatives against Ron Paul: What’s wrong with him other than his foriegn policy? You all act like you hate him so much, but never give a reason why despite the fact he holds almost all the conservative principles. Lay it on me, I want to hear it.
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ocrick
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:46amMr. Willard, many of those 47% are Retired Folks, Veterans, Students and People working 2 Low Paying
Jobs. (thanks to “CEO’s like you sending good paying jobs Overseas)
This “man” has no soul, let alone heart.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:48amOH STOP with the “CAUGHT ON VIDEO” you dumb jackasses. ROMNEY is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. EVERYTHING he says is true. The 47% who are on welfare, getting food stamps are NOT going to accept his campaign premise that he is going to CUT BACK FED. GOV. and he wants to encourage people to work. and yes, they have ADAPTED A VICTIM mentality…just want the Communists/Marxists/Socialists that the LIBERAL DEMS gather up. Liberals don’t want people to MAKE IT, have their own minds, chart their own courses. LIBERALS want, like all international Dictators and power mongering (usually Atheists) want… they want minions who depend upon them so they can KEEP THEIR FRIGGIN’ Power.
Islam is a perfect example too. 1.6 BILLION uneducated,dirt-poor, ignorant and hysterical souls totally controlled by 1000 bastards. The time has come to free ALL THE PEOPLE. TO RIP apart the COMMIE bulkhead that dope in the WH has tried to do. He KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HE IS DOING.
SO DOES ROMNEY. I love it that ROMNEY TELLS IT LIKE IT IS. This is not the Famous OBama cling to guns and Bibles…this is ” 47 % of the people are on welfare and they won’t vote for me ” and that’s the truth. GET OFF HIS BACK you Swine …you Noonans, Billy Krystals, Brit Humes, Kt McFarlands. HE is NOT going to be your PUPPET…THANK GOD. HE is going to straight the financial mess in AMERICA UP. GO MITT!!!! ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 !!1
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Brooke Lorren
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:48amI feel pretty insulted and hurt by Romney’s comments. My family earns at around the poverty level… because my husband happens to be in law school and I run my own business while homeschooling; it doesn’t pay very much. Accusing me of being an Obama supporter is about the nastiest insult that anybody could throw at me. I’d rather be called a killer… at least George Bush recognized that just because someone was not rich didn’t mean that they were willing to kill. I’d rather be accused of eating out of the sewers or garbage cans. Just because I’m temporarily poor doesn’t mean that I like the way that things are and am not trying to improve my life to make it better. It’s not like you can wake up someday and make a lot of money. If it was that easy, more people would be doing it. Sometimes it seems like every day is a struggle for survival… and I know for a fact if Obama was out of office more people would have jobs and my business would be doing better than it is.
Even though Mitt Romney has called me something that I consider to be incredibly offensive, I’ll still be voting for him. But just because I’m poor doesn’t make me a killer… and it also doesn’t mean that I’m something far worse either… an Obama voter.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:52amSOY: ALL DAY/ ALL NIGHT you are dying for any opening to prove your 79 year old 4 timer isolationist is a better choice. HE is not running. HIS SON ENDORSED MITT ROMNEY.
DO not dare to sit there dopus and try to tell us what LOST is. YOU have no idea to whom you are really speaking and you are also trying to denigrate a great American, a great Servant of the People, a great leader: MITT ROMNEY. I’ve had enough of of soggy soy stuff for today.
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Want our country back
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:00amOCRICK, You are so in love with this LIAR in chief that you’d never be able to see an honorable man, a man of integrity and honesty. You think you see those things in obama even tough none of those admirable qualities are there. You are dooped by this fraud but you aren’t smart enough to see it. God help you & the rest of the country if he should get re-elected (BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE).
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DarkJello
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:06am@ocrick:
Silly analysis at best.
@brooke:
Too many Americans aspire to mediocrity at a maximum. They want a lifestyle of ease.
I just graduated from an advanced program 3 years ago. My family received all kinds of help. We will pay it all back and a lot more because we are pushing forward and upward. That is great! That is the true American way! Romney was NOT talking about you or your family. For context, listen to a dozen hours or more of his speeches to learn what he believes. Don’t take a few statements and then decide you have him figured out.
Again, America is starting to fill up with those that want cradle to grave entitlements.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:08amTHERE IS A CLEAR CHOICE in this ELECTION. DO we want a FREE COUNTRY or do we want a GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED COUNTRY?
DO we want our Ability to go to college, (and where) to be determined by the GOV. or by ourselves?
DO we want to be so controlled by regulations that we cannot think outside the box therefore the
great INNOVATION days that built AMERICA are over…or are we willing to go back to the way that made AMERICA GREAT. Neighbors helping neighbors. Politicians working FOR US not ruling us?
THIS IS THE CHOICE!!
Romney is merely saying that 47% of the people (as with the last election) want to be wards of the GOVERNMENT. The rest are up for grabs. That gives him the WIN. and @ BROOKE LORREN:
This Country is perfect for people trying to make it. We’ve all had ramen noodles while we chugged through school, we’ve all paid others first before ourselves. This is just part of the cliimb. THE POINT is we still can CLIMB. OBAMA wants to stifle that- kill the American Spirit. Mitt gave his all away and then built it again. Mitt is saying that MOST AMERICANS do not want to be told they have to stay at a certain level (like Obama would have us…to be “fair” you know) . WHAT YOU GUYS have to get about MITT is that he is 1) Not CONNIVING 2) Not DEVIOUS 3) IS very successful and doesn’t need this but is willing to help … this man’s life is already a great success. WE need his help!! ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 !!
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majasdad
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:09am@MADASHEII
Well said.
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Brooke Lorren
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:40amI don’t get people who aspire to so little. It’s hard not having much either. I can see ministers and charity workers who intentionally work for a low income because they can’t do it either way… God bless them. My little boy was telling me the other day that he wanted to become a scientist, and then he wanted to quit that job and work at Wal-Mart. I told him that it was fine for him to work at Wal-Mart while he was in college, but if he had a good paying job, that he wouldn’t want to quit it to work at Wal-Mart, unless it was to be a CEO or Regional Manager or something.
It’s not just the money (although I used to have money when I was in the military, and it sure is nice)… it’s about being able to make a difference as well. You usually don’t make money unless you’re doing something for somebody. That’s why they pay you. Even if somebody paid me a monthly stipend that was fabulous and I didn’t have to work, I’d still want to do something… even if I was incapacitated, I could at least have a prayer ministry or something. I don’t understand why people don’t want that.
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DarkJello
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:45amFans of Obama are WAY more interested in these vids than the Middle East. The timing is suspect. But I, for one, am glad it came out now instead of 1-2 weeks before this very important election. Too much emotion clouds the mind. We shall see how this plays out.
Romney acted decisively on this vid. Obama told us lies in r/t Libya and that other vid.
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anOpinion
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:47am@Brooke
You are right, accusing ALL people currently with low or no incomes of wanting handouts is the real problem with Romney’s message.
I believe most people in your situation who have been insulted in this way will, like you, vote for Romney because apart from the insult, they do believe in a country that creates Makers and not Takers.
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fair2light
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:48amWhats wrong with what he said. Hello. Its the truth. Only people’offended’ are those who are looking for a pretense. Liberals are liars naturally
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resme
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:52am“1.6 BILLION uneducated,dirt-poor, ignorant and hysterical souls totally controlled by 1000 bastards.”
Wow, Just wow. I know several muslims, Who have more integrity than you could ever dream about. As a christian, You are supposed to win souls, Forgive others, And love your enemies.
Now shew, Go watch TBN along with the other militant Christians.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:00amPS the DRUGE HEADLINES said “ROMNEY GETS REAL:L OBAMA SUPPORTERS ‘DEPENDENT On GOVERNMENT”
WAY to GO DRUDGE!!! (all this referring to Fund-Raiser ROMNEY held in MAY) and now watch all the quacking/clucking/meowing little Liberals try to make something of the TRUTH. I think he just got a bunch of new votes. THE MORE HE SPEAKS…the MORE PEOPLE hear him , the more they know he is the SOLUTION to what troubles us now. GOD BLESS OUR YOUNG MEN KILLED TODAY IN AFGHANISTAN.
BRING
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home…either move the good guys out of the way and bomb the hell out of the place or BRING OUR
GUYS HOME …NOW… NO more “PATROLS” no more UN AMERICANS near our AMERICANS… BRING OUR GUYS HOME NOW. We are accomplishing no good. OR…if you don’t want to bring them home, let them BUNK IN ISRAEL for a couple of months…but get them the hell out of where soldiers they trained and trusted are killing them. HEY!!! GUTLESS WONDER IN THE WHITE HOUSE? (YOU COMMIE, MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD PIG) CAN YOU HEAR ME?
BRING OUR TROOPS HOME…NOW!
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Palter
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:22amDarkjello, we agreed that Mitt’s speech was not compassionate. Now, I would extend, Mitt speech was not even true. As said, it sounds dismissive and generalizing. You said your family received all kinds of help (got helped by gov.) but yet you have ambition and want to give back. So, why dismissed those 47%?! why not encourage them to be more like you? heck, most of them I believe are like you, wants to give back to society. He’s not trying to be the president just for rich people, isn’t he?
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mersey
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 4:05amThe fact of the matter is this is true. The Democrats are enslaving people to government entitlements, keeping them dependent on others for their survival. They’ve done this for decades with the blacks and more recently with Hispanics. Their goal is Marxist Socialism and are well on their way to achieving it. The Democrats must be stopped in their tracks…….NOW.
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The Giver
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 5:13amThey protect Obama no matter what he does. Shameful really. Romney wasn’t my first choice but what he said was true. If truth offends then it offends. So what? It’s offensive to me that half the country isn’t paying any income tax, and that the half paying is accused of not paying their fair share. Wow! ?
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The Giver
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 5:22amAlso, socialists vote for other socialists. Even if his grandparents had been Mexican and he’s conservative…. only the conservative Latinos would vote for him. I don’t think it would have made any difference to a Telemundo crowd. Telemundo has fired conservative Cubans.
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kryptonite
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:20amBROOKE, PALTER AND OTHERS,
You are misreading what Romney said. We need to stop falling for the media’s distortion of everything conservatives say.
First, Romney is not talking about how he plans to govern as president. He is explaining his CAMPAIGN STRATEGY based on the demographic trends. That is the context, and he is just laying out the facts.
Second, Romeny is not referring to poor people. He very specifically talks about those who have an entitlement mentality: “That’s an entitlement. And they believe the government should give it to them.” Then he mentions the 5-10% who are in the CENTER. So you see, he is not talking about poor people, per se. He’s talking about LEFTIES. That said, it is easy to sell communism in a bad economy, because poor people lose hope of every getting out of poverty.
Romney will restore economic mobility, so that lower income people can pursue the American Dream. America was once the land of opportunity, but liberalism has turned it into a land of indentured servants.
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kryptonite
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:24amShould read: “…lose hope of ever getting out of poverty.”
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loriann12
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:41amBut the 47% who pay no taxes, getting it all back and sometimes more than they would have put in, are now third generation takers. They are scammers. I have said it before about the lady I know (avid Obama supporter) who gets SSI because “she has back pain” but is well enough every year to work a week of VBS as the cook in the kitchen and a server. She has rent subsidies, food stamps, welfare, and all 4 of her kids have blackberries. Plus she just sent one off to college. I can’t afford to send my kid to college. As a matter of fact, I just was told that my Down Syndrome, autistic child has to go on a WAITING LIST to get additional services, like being able to go to a day care type place where he can have friends. I think the way I was treated in the office was sort of we’ll have to see who gets re-elected to see if we have funding sort of treatment…don’t you want to vote Democrat to make sure your son gets the services he needs. No, I want to vote Republican so there is more accountability. Just stop giving ONE illegal alien benefits and they can afford to send my son to his day care.
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Mil-Dot
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:01amThe 47% of “Americans” (they are not real Ameicans, they are leeches) need to be driven from our land or get to work supporting themselves. We need to stop this gravey train or we will all be sucked under. Yet the feds just keep pumping in 3rd world miscreants by the millions. Soon the battle lines will be drawn. 9 million freeloaders on “disablility” because they can’t get a job or feel that my money is thiers? Are you kidding me? And the welfare queens pumping out unwanted babies that grow up and prey on others because they were not loved, all for more of our hard earned money? If it does not stop, there will be gigantic war on our soil within 10 years.
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Niruba
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:23amWOW. They caught a politian telling the truth.
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Recceman90
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:27amDon’t hold your breath!
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RepubliCorp
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:28amSOYBOMB315 and Ron Paul is a loser…. so what is your point?
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DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:38amJZS – you’re right, the video will hurt Romney….with the 47-49% of dependent Americans who pay no income tax and wouldn’t vote for him anyway. Get real. Most of them don’t watch the news anyway and won’t even hear about this.
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Polwatcher
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:46amFolks, if enough of us can’t understand what Romney means by this, then our country is toast. If the freeloading voters outnumber the working voters, we are done. Romney was just alluding to reality. Freeloaders are not stupid. They work hard to figure out how to avoid work and get money. They are proud of it. BTW, Seniors worked all their life, paid for their retirement check, paid for their health care (still do), and deserve it. They should like what Romney said. Romney will try hard to save social security and medicare. Right now Bernanki, under the direction of Obama, is taking the seniors’ money away from them by printing excessive amounts of money. Remember folks, all that money is, is purchasing power. Bernanki is devaluing the dollar faster than the Greeks, Spain, Italy, and Portugal are devaluing the Euro. The Euro is now better than the dollar. Very soon, if Obama wins, a loaf of bread will cost $10 or more (same for a gal. of gas) and then what will seniors do? Even the freeloaders will be in a pinch until they figure out how to get more free money. Only crooks would do what is now going on under Obama.
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NorthernEnigma
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:51amHe’s 100% correct. About time someone said it. The truth hurts.
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Individualism
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:52amRepublicans got their welfare workers called the military to back them up, maybe that can even the field.
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right-wing-waco
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:53amFor those of you tat think Romney is the devil: He was not my first or second choice but the alternative at this point is out of the question for me. If you dislike Romney so much, vote for Obama the communist and ride America to total destruction. At this point I don’t think Romney could do any more harm than the commie-in-cheif has. I’ll take my chances and vote for Romney this time.
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Mil-Dot
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:57amWow, look at all of the “offended” little goons like Brooke. Oh, she’s offended by his remarks. Hey Brooke, did you ever stop to think that he was not talking about YOU.? Did ya ever think that? Walking around just looking to be offended. He was talking about the welfare queens and those on generational welfare. Do you understand English? Are you an immigrant from a third world crap hole? If we don’t stop these leeches (9 million liars on disability?) soon, there will be war in the streets of America. Count on it.
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kenboo1
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:58amsoy: you are so right, however, you underestimate the greed of the poor. If its easier to sit at home rather than work and improve one’s self, guess what most will do and how they will vote…
Its hard to get up, go to work and earn a living then try to improve your life.. Business has gone somewhat of a strike by slowing down the hiring and cutting back due to uncertainty. They might should go on an all out strike and lay everyone off to show where the economy could go if Obama is re-elected…
Econ 101
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Palter
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:17amKrytonite, if you read further mitt speech transcript, he summarized those 47% as: quote from mitt speech “….. These are people who pay no income tax”. So clearly he’s refering to poor people (unless he meant this as those tax avoiding rich people). If his campaign strategy was to write off poor people, not even try to reach out with whatever policy he has, what kind of president he wants to be? President for rich people only?
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kadster01
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:31amI don’t know about everyone else, but speaking the truth is a way to GAIN my vote!
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GETLIFE
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:39amLet’s see….potentially damaging video taken May 17th….hmmm
Well of course this is much more important than anything else going on!
C’mon everybody, lets just spend hours and hours talking about THIS!
We have reached the point where the administration actually knows that we know they are lying to us about their dangerous incompetence in the Middle East.
So a video taken in May is suddenly of the greatest importance?
Man, if that’s all they’ve got against Romney at a time like this– they’re in trouble.
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Plumbsensible
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:40amRomney gets it, and is doing a wonderful job of articulating the problem. It is a fact that in our current state near 50% of the country relies on some form of government subsidy. Do you sincerely think there is a chance to sway them? If so your only lying to yourself. Putting money into peoples hand is the quickest way to get them on your side. What do you think foreign aide is for?
The best thing that could happen in this election is for the GOP and conservative leaning independents to come out in droves and vote for Romney.
We are losing our country folks, losing it to those who don’t want to work for a better life, but are content to live the status quo.
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Nicolesandra
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:44amAnother video released .”Everyone knows that Romney will Lose now”. Pelosi analysis in a video.
http://centuryfoxpost.blogspot.in/2012/09/pelosi-everyone-knows-that-romney-will.html
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ddebc4
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:45amPres. Obama stated in 2008 during a fund raiser that people in middle America cling to their guns and
religion. This is not a comment about election and/or political analysis, it shows Obama’s true gut feelings of people>>>>the “middle class” Romney is attempting to analyze voter motivation…it is not
from the heart,or showing Romney’s disdain for the people making up the forty-somthing %
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sWampy
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:50amAnd it gets worse every day, if we don’t wake up, acknowledge the problem, talk about the problem, what it will lead to if not corrected, we are screwed. You can’t fix a problem till you acknowledge what it is.
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omni3460
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:52amObviousy Romey was not thinking…he’ll lose the senior vote if he continues like this. First of all, there is 2.6 Trillion Dollars in the Social Security Trust Fund in the form of an IOU from Congress (stolen from Seniors). Secondly to restate Seniors have paid into the system for 50 yrs and more, and then upon retirement and collection of their retirement funds they then pay $125.00 a a month to the Fed Gov’t for Medicare, and then in add’n they pay either an add’l 20% for Medical Care or pay another $100.00 plus per month for add’l ins (so that they can have medicine paid for, and yes they also have a co pay there as well). So people should shut up calling it an entitlement….IT’S AN EARNED RETIREMENT, LIKE INS. Do your research and then shoot your mouth off. I still support Romney as he is the lessor of two evils….Obama is incompetent, and anti American and more than likely an idiot with an Agenda.
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Arminius23
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:52am@MADASHELL great videos. I have been a follower of G.E. Griffin for the last six years. The other one is fantastic too. Jesse Ventura hit the nail on the head. Reposting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6mqPU9uOaM&feature=youtu.be
Ron Paul and Gary Johnson if you love America please come together now and put this farce to an end. America tires of the Warburg/ Astor/ Rockefeller/ Morgan/ Rothschild oligarchy.
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omni3460
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:55amRomney better clarify, and explain and he must attack on foreign policy or he will lose. I wish Gingrich had won the nomination however.
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JAYBECONSERVATIVE
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 9:09amtake it in context, the question was about convincing people to vote for him, and his answer was related to “not worry about them” voting for him. He wasn’t saying he didn’t want them to prosper or that he didn’t care about their lives, he was specifically talking about convincing them to vote for him. it will get so much play that he “doesn’t care about the 47%” and that’s not what he was talking about.
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Jim
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 9:16amIf they do, it will destroy Obama and America could survive if we wake up in time. QE3 is killing us, what happened in Europe by CIA is happening and we are headed towards a collision.
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Pearsontech
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 9:21amWas what Romney said true? Possibly although I am not convinced that the number of die hard would never vote for a republican or Romney is as high as 47%. However it was stupid to even say it regardless of if its true or not why even say that.. completely bone head move. I know for a fact that I fall into that group that he talks about that doesn’t pay taxes, but I do work hard I have a job and I do make an income I just have five kids and as such don’t make enough to fall in to paying taxes. I for one would never vote for Obama especially and would probably never vote for a democrat. I know people that are poor and on food stamps and get government help that are absolutely not voting for Obama and are absolutely voting for Romney. Making generalizations no matter how close to the truth they are is not a good idea. Is what Romney said going to change my vote or my mind in November? Heck no we have two real choices Obama and Romney and I sure as heck am not voting for Obama. I am not going to doom my country to destruction by not voting or worse yet voting for some other nobody never gonna win person just because the guy I really wanted didn’t win in the Primary. And shame on anyone that dooms our children to that fate by cutting your nose off to spite your face.
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Pearsontech
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 9:28am@Jaybe which is exactly why he should have never said it in the first place. Those words should have never left his mouth. But now that they have he needs to stop trying to explain them away and move on to what he really needs to be talking about and thats the economy and jobs. The more you sit there and try to explain and defend it the more chance there is to continue to play it on air over and over again. Let it drop and move on.
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KristinsMishmash
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 9:37amSo Romney’s in trouble for telling the truth? People need to wake up and realize the truth. Progressives have worked diligently to cement a voting majority by making people dependant on the govenment.
The reason Obama was elected was the color of his skin. People wanted to show how far this country had come by voting for a (half) black president. It didn’t matter what his politics were. Honestly, Romney would have an easier time if he were Latino. He would be able to get the voters who don’t want to seem racist by voting Obama out!
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ltb
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 9:44amAm I missing something? Did Romney say something that’s not true? If we’ve reached a point in America where a politician can’t get elected because he’s telling the truth, we might as well hang it up.
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investlite
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 9:44amI have to laugh at the comments here and on cnn to the effect of ‘Romney called me lazy, I’m going to vote obama then.’
Do they not realize they’re reinforcing his point.
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Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 9:50amMad – I like how you felt compelled to attack me even though I didn’t mention your name…you knew which idiots I were talking about I see, LOL. Hey punk kid, if I want to hear from you, I’ll put on my Ron Paul mask and rattle my zipper, until then, F O A D hammerhead.
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N37BU6
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 9:54amMake it go even more viral:
http://i.imgur.com/jogg9.jpg
Stops them in their tracks every time.
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Jim in Houston
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:12amThe truth just terrifies libaturds. It’s like day light to a vampire. The media is going ballistic trying skewer Romney for telling it like it is. Anyone with more than one functioning brain cell knows what he said was true.
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D-Fence
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:21amSoy, I agree to a point. You can lead a horse to water,… You know the old saying.
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AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:29amLOL…you’re hysterical JZS. Tell me champ…you are dependent on government yourself. You support OWS and it’s assertion that “the money is in the wrong hands”. So tell me…is Romney incorrect that he doesn’t have your vote because lower taxes and a chance for good work mean less to you than government handouts?
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american warrior
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:29amI am going to vote for Romney…WHY ? Cause I cant stand Obama.. I will vote yall can worry about what you want but at the end of the day…. its Obama or Romney… My choice is made…and when the stuff hits the fan and it will either way it goes..I will be ready ! WW3 is fast aproaching ..I think there is nothing anyone can do to stop it….battle lines are being drawn.. Who’s side are you gonna be on…
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muffythetuffy
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:37amROMNEY…
What is wrong with saying the truth?
Romney is white and Romney is right.
I am voting for Romney because he is white.
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AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:38amENCIDIOT/MONICNE/SLEAZY HIPPO/ad nauseum….who said this on a tape recorded secretly at a fund raiser in 2008?
“it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
You tell me little faker, what’s more insulting to the American people…a potential president who believes he doesn’t have a chance of reaching a segment of the population who are convinced that they need government to provide for them or a potentional president who believes Americans become bigots and racists when things get tough for them?
By all means log back in as MONICNE to dodge the question you cur.
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Rampart
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:38amIt will take some time for America–And its treasonous press–To grow reaccustomed to hearing and reporting truthful statements from leadership.
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ChildOfTheKing
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:48am@soybomb315:
Your comments are pathetic and drivel. Jesus said that we would ALWAYS have the poor with us. THAT IS A GIVEN. However, ONLY Romney wants to help them. So, the question really is, DOES HE WANT TO HELP THEM BY ENABLING THEM TO REMAIN POOR, OR ENABLE THEM TO GET OUT OF THEIR SQUALOR AND DO BETTER BY GETTING AN EDUCATION AND A JOB?
It seems to me that Obama doesn’t care about the poor or he would STOP supporting their bad habits. It takes a TRUE LEADER to tell the truth. I think Romney did that in that video, no matter HOW he said it or WHO he said it to. Obama only wants to BRIBE the poor by giving them what they want – NOTHING BY TAX PAYER DOLLARS FOR DOING ***NOTHING***.
How do you cure a drug addict? Do you give him MORE DRUGS?
How do you cure an alcoholic? Do you push liquor at them?
If you answer to both those questions is NO then you must know that the person who has the problem of being poor, a drug addict or an alcoholic MUST MAKE THE DECISION THEMSELVES TO TURN THEIR LIFE AROUND. It is NOT up to the government to continue enabling them to do wrong, to continue being poor, to continue to drink, to continue to do ALL THE THINGS THAT WILL DESTROY THEM. It is up to the government to HELP them WHEN NECESSARY FOR A SHORT TERM, but in the meantime give them tools TO HELP THEMSELVES!
YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER OBAMA IDIOT.
God helps those who help themselves. It is NOT up to the govt to do that long-term!
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stanw909
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:50amMakers vote Romney.Taker vote Obama
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jzs
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:55amLet’s look at those 47% of American Romney says are moochers because the don’t pay federal income tax. Except for the unemployed, they all pay payroll taxes (social security and medicare) at the rate of about 15% of their salary.
In other words, they pay a higher rate of tax on their income than Romney. Ironic isn’t it?
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JRook
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 11:11am“These are people who pay no income tax” Pretty interesting charge from a guy who utilizes offshore accounts, shell corporations and IRA tricks to avoid paying taxes he would owe otherwise. An individual who when asked stated that he paid 13% in taxes, without stipulating what type of taxes comprised that amount. Although we got a hint of his ability to be loose with the truth when he attempted to include charitable donations as something that should be considered, even thought they are tax deductible. And once again, while 47% of Americans may pay little federal income tax, they pay real estate taxes either directly or indirectly, sales taxes (at a disproportionate level) and of course any number of excise taxes, such as gasoline, liquor, cigarettes, etc. And of course thanks to the slight of hand move by many Republicans higher fees for everything from driver licenses to school fees. When you pay higher fees for government services you are in fact paying a tax.
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mattmo79
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 11:12amOh no! How dare Romney say that 47% of the voters will vote for Obummer because they want bigger government!! OMG!! Not That!!!
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P8riot
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 11:42amI pitty those who can’t see how EXACTLY RIGHT ROMNEY IS!!!
Liberals FEED off of “victims” – they are EXACTLY the voting block that Obama is seeking!
Anyone who votes for Obama DOES consider themselves victims – victims of racism, victims of capitalism, victims of the rich, etc. etc. etc.
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Glynrd Skynrd
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 11:44amHmmm, We have become so politically correct we can’t speak the truth anymore! I have to ask, “What is wrong with what he said?” Break down the elements of what he was discussing/said and tell me how the 2 + 2 that he spoke about doesn’t = 4…
Sheez, GROW UP America, look plainly at the problems we face and make right choices for our nation.
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calebjim
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 11:46amI do not care what Romney has to say about the 47% that pay no taxes and how they vote. I do, however, know how I will vote and it will not be the one in the WH. If this clown gets back in, we can snap the light out and call this country done for.
Every thing Romney has to say is played forever on the network news and the world is aware that they are in the tank for the president.
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ultor-de-deus-exercitus
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 12:03pmJust as the two basic and mutually exclusive interrelations between men are peaceful cooperation or coercive exploitation, production or predation, so is the history of mankind, particularly its economic history, may be considered as a contest between these two principles. On the one hand, there is creative productivity, peaceful exchange and cooperation; on the other, coercive dictation and predation over those social relations.
Romney, did not state the truth strong enough in my opinion. When 1/3 of any population is dependent on its central planners so also is 1/3 of industry and 1/3 of all commerce. By definition this is socialism. It is that very dependence that has put America in the Keynesian comma we are experiencing today.
If one stops and listens to those on the left, the argument they are stuck making is envious and greedy; on the other hand, the argument on the right is about independence rather than dependence, it is about personal decision making as opposed to collective confiscation. At the end of the day (and this may come about in our life time), the socialist parasite kills the productive host and the collective relativistic utopian mythology becomes the tyranny of out right dictatorship.
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AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 12:23pmJZS and JCROOK….is the concept of capital gains taxes alien to you? You do understand there’s a difference between federal taxes for salaries and capital gains taxes right? You do understand that Romney was already taxed on his salary before being taxed again on the investments capital gains he makes? His investments capital gains taxes will generate more federal government revenue than both your salaries combined for your entire lifetimes. Both of you clods understand that don’t you?
But tell me…who said this in a tape that was “secretly” recorded in 2008?
“it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
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Kalish
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 12:30pmFrom Gallup, 67% of democrats think the government is NOT doing enough, that’s part of the problem with this country right there …….
http://www.gallup.com/poll/157481/majority-say-government-doing.aspx
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1947
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 12:38pmOk, FOXS it’s time to hit street and talk to the 47 to 49% to see just how good they feel about themselves receiving FREE money from the Government (OBAMA). Perhaps Media Matters would like to go along for first hand INFORMATION for Holders NEEDS. All of this support from Media Matters because GOVERNMENT MONEY take care of them. Start this before Oct. 1st.
AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 12:50pmJCROOK…certainly with the price of fuel so high under Barack Obama….the “47%” are paying a lot more in taxes at the pump. Was this intentional?
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1947
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 12:55pmThis would please Carter…..?
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Xiccarph
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:06pmThere is a finite percentage of the population that will without exception, vote their party’s candidate. The would be nothing for the opposition to “reach out to” for these voters. There is a certain segment of this 47+% that could be reached, and possibly swayed. Targeting this subgroup would be possible, as they can be identified with certain socio-economic characteristics. A vast majority of this subgroup would fall into the “independent voter” category and not totally be indoctrinated or dependent on the government teat. Forget about the diehard multi-generational moocher or emotionalistic and agenda driven part of this 47%..they will vote Democrat no matter who says what. Oh, and yeah, there are Republicans who would vote party loyalty no matter who ran as well, but with the overwhelming success of incrementalism in the Democrat agenda, the Dems are winning regardless. Remember, when Republicans compromise on anything, we loose freedoms every time, and Dems gain more government. This is without exception!
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encinom
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:13pm@Brooke Lorren
Why do you vote against your interests. Romney is clear, he does not see his job as President is to represent you or others that do not belong to his class in society. This is proven with his statement about why there was no mention of returning vets and soldiers in his acceptance speech, according to Romney ” When you give a speech you don’t go through a laundry list, you talk about the things that you think are important.” This is proven by the report of the CBO that Romney’s tax plan will lower the taxes for the 1% while raising the taxes on those that make under $250k.
Again this man disdains you, why do you support him?
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GoodStuff
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:22pmWe Are the 53% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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cbrown
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:46pmTime to dump incompetent, pathetic candidate Romney. Let’s go for the Rubio-Ryan ticket (Bill Kristol’s choice).
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AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:54pmENCIDIOT…Romney’s offering jobs instead of handouts to the stubborn Obama voter. Not interested?
You know…he’s trying to make that “47%” a smaller percentage. Is that wrong to do that little fella?
Should we just enjoy Obama’s record unemployment and worse underemployment numbers for another four years? More people working means more tax payers ENCIDIOT/MONICNE…is there something wrong with what Romney’s trying to do?
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Patriot Z
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:16pmsoybomb..yes he would. reagan knew as well that there is and always will be a large group of people who feel its the govts job to support them. heck reagan delt will MILLIONS on them in the USSR. its not giving up. it is using time wisely to help fix whats broken. you can spend 8 yrs trying to convince people that your policies will work,or you can do it and show them. and sad to say there will still be a large number who are conviced you are wrong..aka ows. they are lost people. they are the cannon fodder they are the acceptable losses. they are the ones you must trap in the belly of the sinking sub because saving them would doom all the rest
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CobraBill
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:38pmIf you don’t like what Romney said, wait a couple weeks. He will change his position.
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encinom
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:43pmAvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:54pm
ENCIDIOT…Romney’s offering jobs instead of handouts to the stubborn Obama voter. Not interested?
You know…he’s trying to make that “47%” a smaller percentage. Is that wrong to do that little fella?
Should we just enjoy Obama’s record unemployment and worse underemployment numbers for another four years? More people working means more tax payers ENCIDIOT/MONICNE…is there something wrong with what Romney’s trying to do?
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Really, how is Romney going to add the jobs, what’s his plan other than cutting the taxes of his country club buddies?
As for jobs, Obama reversed the W. job loses, there have been 30 straight months of job growth. Even the GOP house leaders have also admitted that the States cutting of public sector jobs have cost America over 1million additional tax payers.
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darkeningskies
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:51pmI am sorry, I am not familiar with this tape.
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AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:57pmLOL..really ENCIDIOT?
Let’s see..last month the economy added 96K jobs while 395K people dropped out of the workforce and gave up looking for work. This is worth celebrating to you is it clownshoes? Unemployment has remained over 8% throughout Obama’s tenure. The underemployment rate is the highest since WWII. More people on food stamps under Obama since decades.
Obama hasn’t even made up the deficit of jobs lost since 2008/2009. He’s not even close to doing so…certainly not with laughable numbers like 96K new jobs.
The workforce has actually shrunk under Barack Obama…less Americans are working today.
Romney will reverse Obama’s incompetent handling of the economy and reduce that 47% number by giving more Americans a good job.
Let’s remember…most of those jobs you’re crowing about have been low paying ones, this is not a sign of a healthy economy or good job numbers..not one bit. I’m happy to supply the numbers if you’re still persistent.
You have lost this argument ENCIDIOT/MONICNE/SLEAZY HIPPO/ad nauseum……this is why Obama’s team is downplaying the upcoming debates they see the writing on the wall.
But I don’t blame you little guy…you’re one of the 47% Romney was talking about that no matter what he does to convince you that he will nurture an economy for you to get a better job…you won’t vote for him. You’re unteachable.
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AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:02pmOh and ENCIDIOT…what was Obama’s jobs plan during the 2008 campaign? Please post it for me..thanks little guy.
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AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:12pmBy the way ENCIDIOT/MONICNE/SLEAZY HIPPO/ad nauseum…who pays public sector employees’ salaries? The taxpayer yes? Doesn’t it make sense that if more people had good jobs then there’d be more taxpayers?
So your bleating about public sector employees and tax paying..you’re talking about low growth jobs. The private sector is the engine of growth. We tried it your way champ…”stimulus, shovel ready”..remember?
Obama’s answer to his abysmal economy has been “more policemen, more teachers, more firemen” and you’re selling the same loser of a plan now.
No really ENCIDIOT/MONICNE/ad nauseum….tell me what’s so fantastic about 385,000 people dropping out of the workforce last month little guy and why Obama deserves reelection for numbers like these.
Oh and please…show me Obama’s jobs plan from the 2008 campaign since you seem so concerned about details from Romney about his…I dare you..LOL. Green jobs? Infrastructure? More teachers, policemen and firemen? LOL.
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Sosorryforyou
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:39pmIt’s obvious that Romney is utterly out-of-touch with half of America if he claims 47% of Americans are “victims” and “unwilling to take responsibility for themselves”. He and you should know who these Americans are if you are so quick to criticize them.
WHO ARE THE 47%:
* Many of the WORKING POOR – many people who work full or part time that just don’t make enough to raise themselves or their families on what they earn (for example, some secretaries, taxi drivers, servers, nursing aides, customer service reps, deli workers, preschool teachers, etc.)
* Many ELDERLY – many senior citizens need extra governmental financial assistance in the forms of S.S. and Medicare and Medicaid.
* Many of the LONG-TERM UNEMPLOYED – people who have been laid off in the past four years due to the Country’s economic situation, and despite their best efforts, have been unable to find employment.
* Many who are DISABLED – many disabled individuals are unable to work due to their disabilities.
* Many TAKERS – people who choose to be dependent and not take responsibility for themselves (only 6-7% of the 47% fall into this category.)
Almost all of the above pay other Federal, state and local taxes.
It’s startling to realize that Romney has no idea who the 47% are. He couldn’t possibly be a good leader after showing complete distain for half of those he wishes to lead. Do you realize that thousands of the 47% vote Republican? Will they still give him their vote af
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AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:50pmSOSORRY(yes you are)….what’s Obama’s jobs plan for 2013 and beyond? How does Obama plan to reduce his 47% number and put more Americans into good jobs rather then the record high underemployment number he currently “enjoys”?
Please show me how Obama “cares” for us all when last month 385,000 people dropped out of the workforce and gave up looking for jobs while only adding 96,000 jobs? This kind of performance is worth voting for in your eyes yes?
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encinom
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:52pm@AvengerK
Can you speak in anything other than FOx News approved talking points? Again, W. crashes the economy, the GOP handcuff Obama with a campaign of blocking any legislation that Obama wants and than complains that job creation is not happening fast enough, but job growth is happening. http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-01-23/politics/30485008_1_unemployment-rate-obama-election-day
As for Public employees, I realize that the GOP hates the first responders, considers them a bunch of slackers and takers. But they create the middle class and are tax payers. But than again you are your neighbors can put out a fires on your own after your pave the roads.
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Sosorryforyou
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 4:17pm@AVENG
Well, I guess if having every job creating legislation quickly voted down by Repubs, who claim to have better ideas but do nothing about them, means that he hasn’t done anything in the area of job growth, then I would have to agree with you. We all remember how right after his election, Republicans stated in public that their most important thing in the next four years was to make sure Pres. Obama was a one-term-president. They’ve worked really hard on that one, and not on much else.
Personally, I really love Pres. Obama’s job-creating idea of shoring up our Country’s infrastructure, such as repairing American’s delapitated roads and bridges, etc. Think of how many jobs that would bring in, and how many other businesses that would benefit from such work. THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS!!
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AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 4:19pmGosh ENCIDIOT/MONICNE/SLEAZY HIPPO/ad nauseum..where to start with this latest idiocy of yours.
Speaking of blocking….can you tell me what House GOP bills Harry Reid has allowed to go for a vote in the senate?
Oh and why has the senate voted UNANIMOUSLY against Obama’s ludicrous budgets? That’s…Obama got ZERO votes ENCIDIOT..in case “unanimously” is a word you’re unable to process. Care to offer anything on these facts ENCiDIOT/MONICNE?
No ENCIDIOT..you don’t get to throw away the truth as “talking points”. More Americans have dropped out of the workforce under Barack Obama than since WWII. That’s not a talking point little champion…that’s the truth. By all means…prove me wrong on it.
No ENCIDIOT…teachers and firemen don’t “create” anything especially not “the middle class”. They may be part of the middle class, but they don’t create it. You seem to be more befuddled than usual. Government creates their jobs ENCIDIOT. This is why their jobs are on the line when government funding depletes. Is this something beyond your grasp of understanding little faker? You tell me how much growth you get from a public sector job ENCIDIOT..tax money goes in..tax money goes out. It’s low growth little guy. The private sector is the engine of growth.
Now explain to me again ENCIDIOT/MONICNE…..we lost 385, 000 workers while only adding 96,000 jobs last month (and roughly the same for the previous two months as well) this is job growth t
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AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 4:42pmSOSORRY(yes you are)…can you explain to me why the senate UNANIMOUSY voted down Obama’s budgets? You seem to be only seeing the GOP half of “UNANIMOUSLY” for some reason.
Let me make that clearer for you you little Obama champion you….Obama-0, Senate (that’s Democrats and Repbublicans) -97. Your thoughts true believer?
No idiot…Obama tried “shovel jobs” already. What part of IT FAILED! isn’t clear to you? Public sector jobs are low growth jobs. Tax money in/ tax money out..is this too hard for you little guy? It’s the private sector that’s the growth sector. Ditch digging doesn’t pay the nations bills little true believer.
Look quite honestly..after seeing your “thousands and thousands” performance I know that anything I tell you is lost on you. You’re a blind sycophant of Obama and the left, you’re beyond hope or redemption. I’m really just reiterating the truth for anyone reading here it’s not for your sake. Your the person Romney was talking about. He can tell you he’ll offer you a chance at a better job rather than government handouts but you wont’ vote for him, you’d rather defend Obama’s failures.
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kryptonite
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 4:48pm@PALTER
if you read further mitt speech transcript, he summarized those 47% as: quote from mitt speech “….. These are people who pay no income tax”. So clearly he’s refering to poor people
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No, he was referring to people with an “entitlement mentality,” who are poor because they love their status quo. Not all the poor are gimmes, but all gimmes are poor. The reason he mentioned the “income tax” was not to redifine the group again to include those who are stuggling to make it, but because SINCE the gimmes do not pay income tax, Mitt’s message of lower taxes does not connect with them. Lower taxes is not an incentive for them to switch over to Romney, BECAUSE they are freeloaders.
You need to analyze in context. This is about campaign demographics, not how he will govern. Have you missed his speeches? You are echoing the MSM caricatures of Romney.
(unless he meant this as those tax avoiding rich people).
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kryptonite
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 5:01pm@PALTER
(unless he meant this as those tax avoiding rich people).
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LOL. Those ARE in the tank for Obama.
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jzs
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 5:02pmAvenJerK asks, “You do understand that Romney was already taxed on his salary before being taxed again on the investments capital gains he makes?”
Actually JerK it’s not true that at Bain Romney paid taxes twice on the same money, first as a salary then as an investment. Rather than take a salary, Bain managers paid themselves with investments, and the taxes they paid on their compensation was half what it would be if they too a salary.
Some experts say that’s legal, some say it’s not. But it’s certainly a tax break for the rich that you or I can’t take. If you could get paid with stock with McDonald’s rather than salary, you’d dramatically cut your tax rate. Only you can’t, because you need that money to live on.
Yep, the rich get richer and the playing field is slanted there way.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/02/new-york-probing-tax-strategies-private-equity-firms-including-bain-capital/
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Brooke Lorren
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 5:05pmI’m sure if I actually had the chance to address Mitt Romney, he would admit that he didn’t mean people like me in this comment. But the fact that he used the 47% figure (which would include 100% of the people that didn’t earn enough to pay income tax) means that he did include me in his figures, whether he meant to or not. Had he said “most of the people that don’t pay income tax” or used a number slightly less than 47%, then that wouldn’t have included me.
He is right on one thing though… I have made up my mind NOT to vote for Obama. George Soros could call me on the phone today and offer me a billion dollars, and I wouldn’t vote for Obama. Even if the press dug up some really heinous information on Romney, like he likes to travel to foreign countries and shoot nuns or has gas chambers in his backyard to kill Jews or something… you still couldn’t make me vote for Obama (although in the last case I’d probably vote Gary Johnson or write in Rick Santorum or something).
When you paint an entire group with a broad brush, then you’re likely to be making the wrong assumptions about some people.
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jadams1214
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 5:23pm@DEMOCRATSAREEVIL If the damn republicans would stop voting to fund this crap it would have to go away. We do not need a republican president to vote to stop the funding, it could be done by the republicans in congress but it seems they keep voting to fund it. The only thing worse than democrats lies are republicans excuses!
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jadams1214
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 5:27pm@JBARR73 You can continue to blame democrats all you want but the truth is the republicans in congress continue to vote for the funding of this crap. The only thing worse than democrats lies are republicans excuses!
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AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 5:55pmWhen I say you’re an idiot JZS..it’s because there’s no other term more appropriate for you.
Is reading and comprehension a problem for you JZS? The very article you linked to shows that Romney’s retirement agreement doesnt’ give him the right to participate in the programn you’re bleating about (which is legal anyway). Nor did Romney participate in it before he retired. His tax returns don’t indicate any of this activity either. You’re an idiot JZS and your OWS-esque class warfare banalities are droll, noxious and insipid..much like anything that emits from you.
Here’s the reality JZS…Mitt Romney has already paid more tax money to the federal government than you and your troupe of OWS monkeys will pay in your entire lifetimes.
You do understand that waiving fees and accepting investments is a gamble don’t you JZS?
I know you’ve never done this before JZS but when you participate in a company profit sharing programn you’re doing almost the same thing. You’re forgoing a portion of your pre-taxed pay, along with a sum from your employer and investing it in mutual funds..etc for your retirement. This is usually tax deferred. Go ahead JZS..convince less afluent Americans than Mitt Romney to pay more taxes on their 401ks. Oh wait..that’s exactly what Barry’s shooting for isn’t it little guy?
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The Gooch
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:18pmRomney’s mistake: Daring to speak honestly as a politician. God forbid we hear how either of these wizards REALLY views us.
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AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:23pmBy all means JZS..skulk back into the thread around 11pm tonight in your usual fashion for your reply, when you believe there’s no one around to answer you.
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jzs
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:10pmAvenJerk, you sound perky today. Awesome. As tiresome as it sometimes is to correct you again and again though, I suppose I will again. If you’d read the article, you’d have seen that according to the NYT, Romney did use that tax avoidance strategy (not to mention Swiss Bank accounts and secret overseas tax shelters). And his attorney only claims he didn’t use that potentially illegal tax avoidance scheme after he retired (you say it’s legal – you’re a tax attorney? – but others quoted in the article say it’s not).
Speaking of retirement accounts, how did Romney get $100 million in his retirement account, when the yearly limit is 30K? http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-15/the-secret-behind-romney-s-magical-ira.html
I know you don’t want to admit it, but everybody knows why Romney won’t release his tax returns, and it’s not because he can’t afford to have copies made.
I want to help you JerK, but you’ve got to apply yourself. I want you to be a better person.
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Sosorryforyou
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:37pmI’m just amazed at how many Conservatives are “circling the wagons” around Romney saying that he shouldn’t apologize but instead use his elitest comments to show America what conservative principles are all about. Really? By insulting half of the Country? Romney obviously doesn’t know who the 47% are. Do you really think it’s intelligent to campaign on how the half the County doesn’t have his support because “[M]y job is, is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.” Does Romney or any of you really understand who the 47% are? They are the hard-working poor, seniors, the disabled, students, etc., along with about 6% who are the Takers. Facts show that the majority of the 47% DO take personal responsibility, care for their lives, and pay plenty of Federal, state and local taxes. I think Conservatives are right – Romney should “own” his words, but I’m betting his insults and disdain for half the Country aren’t going to help him much.
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jadams1214
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:34pm@SOSORRY Can you explain to me why anyone should not have to pay federal income taxes. The fact is we should all have skin in this game no matter how much or how little you earn. Just because some of choose to take advantage of the oppurtunities afforded us in this great country and some of us don’t shouldn’t exempt those that don’t from paying the same taxes as the rest. I pay the same sales,payroll,and local taxes as those who don’t take advantage of oppurtunity and they should pay the same federal income taxes as i do. NO FREE RIDES!
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girlnurse
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:47pmDEMOCRATSAREEVIL said: “How do you take a single mother sitting home receiving a check, food stamps and Medicaid…and tell her she’s better off working? Not going to happen – not for most of them. They’re lost, unless you force them…and who’s going to do that?”
You’re right! I’ve been in that situation. That is IF there is no incentive and they will make the SAME AMOUNT of money! But it should NOT be that way! It should ALWAYS pay more to work, than to sit home! Especially a mother who has to pay childcare—MOST people want to work and have a better life for themselves and their kids. In the past it ALWAYS paid more to work….no more!
We shipped all our good jobs for the benefit of other countries!
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SamIamTwo
Posted on September 19, 2012 at 10:24amMitt screwed up as that figure includes people who are veterans and those who receive SS. By Law they deserve those funds…and there are people who use it as a safety net to get out of relying on the Government.
Need to drill down to find out the real percentage…and there is a real percent of the people who rely on the so called system to avoid work…the entitlement gang is alive and well…being perpetuated by el presidente and the MSMs.
So yeah Mitt needs to spin out of this and make it his point not a point for the other side.
So far Mitt has missed about 7 opportunities to define himself…the LEFT is defining him and that is why the polls are as tight as they are. Come on Mitt, take the gloves off and come out swingin’ or you will lose in a tight election. Bugs Bunny will be voting this year and people who have two residencies will cast both ballots for Obama…you need to come on strong now!!
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Amerigo Vespucci
Posted on September 19, 2012 at 11:23amSOY: If there is no such thing as lost voters, how do you explain that in the 2008 election, nearly 95% of black voters voted for BHO? Can you honestly say that Mitt Romney should “worry” about trying to sway black voters over to his side? They comprise 14% of the US population and 9% of the electorate. Politics is business – plain and simple. To spend money (waste it) on a group who will never vote for you because you do not look like them is futility in motion.
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tcseacliff
Posted on September 19, 2012 at 1:15pmthe edited version is different from the entire speech.got to hear the whole story !
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anastasia beverhousen
Posted on September 19, 2012 at 1:34pmWHY I DONT CARE WHO WINS…….
the election process is too long…a 4 yr really is a 1 1/2 term then the new election starts….have a 6 yr term…good or bad…
have a 6 month election and 20 debates…most people have their mind made up anyways…
thank God i dont vote…..this backstabbing makes me sick…i stopped watching fox 6mo. ago…turned them on the other day and nothing is new…..same ol same ol junk….
if this is what a person has to do to become president then thank god i dropped out……
maybe the nov.8th aftermath will bring something new but i doubt it….yeah
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cburchfiel
Posted on September 19, 2012 at 2:44pmcome on you know way better than that, and even if they did it wouldn’t be published by the main stream Media!!!!!!!!!!!
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IsThereADifference
Posted on September 19, 2012 at 3:41pml don’t like Romney, but he’s telling the truth here America. I could maybe start to get on board with Mitt Romney if he would be more in your face hard truth about the 47%. e.g. “47% of the people living in America are blood sucking useless pieces of inbred S H I T!”
Wow that number is astonishing!!! 47% of Americans suck the life out of everyone else in the country. They actually believe they should be entitled to this. This 47% should not even be given the right to vote. You don’t deserve to vote if you cannot even feed yourself. The 53% of us who work for a living feed your sorry ass’s, cloth your sorry ass’s, and entertain your sorry ass’s for free.
A message to the 47%: Be honorable for once in your lives and fall on your swords for the absolute failures that you are.
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Olivia
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:47pmNot if they value their lives.
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foxrocks
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:38pmWell, for sure there are the people out there that want the free handouts, free cell phone, ebt cards, dont’ want to work, have no intention of doing so as long as there are 99 free weeks to sit on your arze and get govt money. Then there are the people who will vote for obama just because he is black, or so called…….black. Romney will not sway those people at all, period.
There also are alot of people who are fed up with the free handouts, sick of the fast and furious corrutption, the gm bailout, the crisis in the middle east, needless killing of americans thanks to Hillary, and obama, and the intrusion on gun rights and freedom for our citizens……
Obama loses in nov…… lots of folks better start lookin for a JOB, and get off their lazy arzes
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Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:38pmI was with you until “needless killing of americans thanks to Hillary, and obama, and the intrusion on gun rights and freedom for our citizens……” What has Obama done against gun rights specifically? The needless killing of Americans? Rather broad there. What recent president could be excluded from that quote?
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Madconservative
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:09pmIn 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior: “A democracy is always
temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority
always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship.”
“The average age of the world ‘s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage.”
The Obituary follows:
Born 1776, Died 2012
It doesn ‘t hurt to read this several times. Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in
St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning
the last Presidential election:
Number of States won by: Obama: 19 McCain: 29
Square miles of land won by: Obama: 58
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encinom
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:43pm@Misinformed By Fox
The majority of the 47% are the elderly and disabled. How dare granny and pop-pop do nothing all day calling their slacking “retirement.” Its time to get those old folks back to assembly lines. And would you believe all of those injuried returning vets, they are asking for the government to provide them with health care, benefits and disability payments.
Really, we need to give people like Romney more and more tax breaks while raising the taxes on the middle class.
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voodoolife
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:55pm@ encinom: No, they are not. They are lazy. Go drive through South Central Los Angeles. Detriot. Any place full of able bodied people that do nothing all day…
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My Two Cents
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 12:06amENCINOM: You left disabled children off of your list of straw men.
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mamatango
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 12:08am“The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government, lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.”
- Patrick Henry
“We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and
trying to lift himself up by the handle.”- Winston Churchill
“The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”― Thomas Jefferson
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”― Winston Churchill
“Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred.”
― Martin Luther King Jr.
“America will endure until the people of America shall have lost all virtue; until they shall have become totally insensible to the difference between freedom and slavery, until they shall have been reduced to such poverty of spirit as to be willing to sell that preeminent blessing, the birthright of a free man for a mess of pottage.”–George Washington–found in unread portion of his inaugural speech.
With the DNC crying out loudly to take God and His Covenant Land out of platform; demand freedom for sodomite marriages, abortion on demand, God, prayer & the Bible already out of school, I’d say 47% of America has already lost her virtue
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Kenszen
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:47am@Mamatango Two thumbs up!
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:05am@ RESME: IF you gave a hoot about the MUSLIMS (some who are your friends) then you would want to FREE THEM from their CRUEL IMAM SATANIC leaders. What part of that don’t you get? I have even some Muslim acquaintances too who are petrified to speak but who sought JESUS out (and found him) -unless you think it’s a good thing for 1.6 Billion people to be ruled by 1000 people … GO read what I said again. GEEZ…it’s probably been so long since you thought outside the box you’ve forgotten how to. READ WHAT I SAID AGAIN!!!!!
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veritas83
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:24amIt is a sad day when Americas’ people choose fiat money and a false since of security provided by unconstitutional wars and warrantless wiretapping and spying on American citizens not to mention indefinite detention. What will it take to make you see that following the constitution and championing liberty is what this country needs. Mitt Romney is the same as Obama his road ends where Obama’s road ends. Instead of voting for the same old tired politicians we’ve been voting for sinc the early 20th century lets try something new. Write in Ron Paul or vote for Gary Johnson.
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Lamarr01
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:37amWho is going to hire high school dropouts or college graduates like encinom that have worthless college degrees and no marketable skills?
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DoseofReality
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:12amYou people do realize that encimon is right for the most part dont you? The vast, vast majority of “entitlements” goes to our elderly and baby boomers, not to the inner city “welfare queens”. Go look it up through actual research…but you wont, it doesnt fit your narrative.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:47amENCINOM, The elderly are taxpayers. That first tax bill signed by Bill Clinton back in early ’93 for the first time in our history began to tax their Social Security benefits. It was you Dem-wits who started to take away from the elderly since Social Security hardly covers the elderly’s monthly expenses. So, there is no reason for you to lump the elderly into the sit on your dead a s s with your hand out crowd.
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TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 9:21amNote: This story timed to draw attention away from the murder of 4 patriotic Americans in Egypt, more in Afghanistan and wasn’t it Yemen 4 others. Sounds a little fishy this happened in May and Walla! It seems to have worked as there are nearly 700 comments. He has one thing right for sure and that is some of us are in his camp no matter what–we are against tyranny. And I would bet on it that if Romney would place a sign on his desk saying the buck stops here it really would (shades of a different kind of Democrat Harry S. Truman). I love what he said about born in America because I have that same feeling. I am still proud to be an American despite and to spite that bunch of mealy mouth hypocrites.
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encinom
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:27amRJJinGadsden
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:47am
ENCINOM, The elderly are taxpayers. That first tax bill signed by Bill Clinton back in early ‘93 for the first time in our history began to tax their Social Security benefits. It was you Dem-wits who started to take away from the elderly since Social Security hardly covers the elderly’s monthly expenses. So, there is no reason for you to lump the elderly into the sit on your dead a s s with your hand out crowd.
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The facts are only 18% of the country pays no income taxes (Federal and State, the 47% is Federal only). Of the 18% that pay no taxes over half are the elderly. Again, Romney is throwing out random right wing talking points and proving that while he knows what to say to the fringe base, he is clueless on how to be a President. I a crowd of the haves and have mores, Romney is talking about not caring about all the citizens as president. The CBO has already said the Romney tax plan will lower taxes for the richest while increasing taxes on those that make under $250K.
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michael48
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:41amprofessional panhandlers, gov. gumba seatwarmers, gov. gumba unions, poverty program pimps, control freaks…take great offence to this truth…insaneom…jzs head are represenative of this crowd and willingly provide proof daily…
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AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:45amENCIDIOT/MONICNE/SLEAZY HIPPO/ad nauseum…
What do you think of a candidate who believes rural Americans turn into bigots and paranoid delusionals when they face hardships?
“it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”- Barack Obama 2008.
Spare us all your piety ENCIDIOT/MONICNE and stop insulting my intelligence with your idiocies.
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encinom
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 12:00pm“Millions of the working poor will be dropped from the tax rolls altogether, and families will get a long-overdue break with lower rates and an almost doubled personal exemption.” Ronald Reagan,
I guess Reagan was a progressive pandering to the takers. Of course given the federal income tax law and child credits and home owner credits, etc., most of the NASCAR families are in the 47%, also given the way the rich can manipulate their income Romney and other investors could also be with in the 47%.
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AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 12:53pmENCIDIOT/MONICNE/SLEAZY HIPPO/ad nauseum…is “la la la I can’t hear you” a winning strategy for you?
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encinom
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:06pm@AvengerK
Here is the difference you idiot, while Romney has written off all of those that do not have country club membership. The Obama continued to speak after the Bible and Guns quote you cite. Here is the rest of Obama’s statement: “now these are in some communities, you know. I think what you’ll find is, is that people of every background – there are gonna be a mix of people, you can go in the toughest neighborhoods, you know working-class lunch-pail folks, you’ll find Obama enthusiasts. And you can go into places where you think I’d be very strong and people will just be skeptical. The important thing is that you show up and you’re doing what you’re doing.”
While Romney has talks of ignore the poor, the ones that don’t belong to his class, Obama talked about still going and reaching out to those that would be opposed to him.
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AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:58pmLOL…you’re the idiot ENCIDIOT/MONICNE.
So by your measure are you saying that 53% of Americans belong to country clubs? Spare me your class warfare buffoonery you lick spittle.
Romney wants to make that 47% smaller by having more Americans working. More Americans working means more tax payers. Is this ok with you champ? Or do you prefer Obama’s record unemployment and even worse underemployment numbers instead?
You dont’ get it you drooling idiot….this has played right into Romney’s hands. Romney can now argue he wants to make that 47% a much smaller percentage rather than feed it and coddle it.
You’ve lost.
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AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:07pmLOL…adding onto Obama’s “god, guns and bigots” quote only makes him look more of the elitist ENCIDIOT/MONICNE. Perhaps you should work on your reading and comprehension?
But speaking of selective editing…Mother Jones chose to quote Romney saying he was born with a silver spoon…want to see the end of that quote ENCIDIOT/MONICNE that Mother Jones excised from the byte?
“I was born with a silver spoon, (Mother Jones ends there) which is the greatest gift you can have: which is to get born in America.” Do you disagree with Romney ENCIDIOT?
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VanceUppercut
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:39pm@foxrocks
Ah, you’re just mad ’cause your boy just told senior citizens living off of Social Security and Medicare, and working poor whose children depend on Medicaid, and anyone who has the misfortune of losing their job and now collects unemployment that they are good-for-nothing bums, and that he doesn’t give a crap about them because they’re not going to vote for him anyway, and he said it when he though only his rich, white friends were listening but got he caught. And the funny thing is that most of those people that you say are “sick of handouts” get handouts themselves. A majority of people on welfare live in red states. So Skeeter (known to his children as Uncle Dad) likes to talk big about “those lazy bums living off the ‘guvment’” as he pays for a bag of Cheese-Oh’s (because they’re cheaper than actual Cheetos). Which leads me to another point: Considering that–ranked by income–eight of the top ten states are blue states, and all of the bottom ten are red states (with Repub. Governors and Repub. led legislatures), don’t you people ever get the feeling that you must be fundamentally wrong?
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AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:46pmVANCIE….”the misfortune of losing their jobs”? You mean the misfortune of having lost their jobs and can’t find another one right? Because under Barack Obama the underemployment is the highest since WWII. Unemployment has not dropped beneath 8% throughout Obama’s tenure. The workforce has shrunk under Barack Obama. Hiring remains at a trickle…infact..last month 395,000 people dropped out of the workforce compared to 96,000 new hires.
Let me dumb that down for you champ…more than three times the people who found work simply dropped out of the workforce because under Obama’s economy they can’t find jobs…in record numbers.
Care to comment VANCIE?
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VanceUppercut
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:13pm@AvengerK
Wait, you mean that less than four years after the deepest recession since the Great Depression, the economy isn’t roaring yet? You don’t say. *eyeroll*
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AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:37pmLOL…really VANCY? That’s what you’re going with? Goal post moving? Oh…the toughest hardest recession ever..that’s why Obama adds 96,000 jobs in one month while losing 385,000 workers from the economy.
Well….Barry certainly needs four more years for a performance like that right?
Seen the numbers for past recessions VANCYBOY? The bounce back is always steep and pronounced from a recession…Obama seems to be unique in this history of recoveries…he’s flatlined instead.
No by all means..tell me what’s fantastic about 385,000 people dropping out of the workforce last month little buckeroo. Or how Obama predicted the unemployment rate would be 5% today when in fact it hasn’t dropped below 8% throughout his tenure. Or the fact that the underemployment rate is the highest since WWII….let me dumb that down again for you little champion….more people have given up looking for work or have taken on part-time work for lack of full time work under Barack Obama since any administration since WWII. Or the fact that the workforce actually shrunk under Barack Obama.
Here’s my favourite little VANCY…Obama promised to add 5 million green jobs over ten years. Oh he’s so on track to meet that number…LOL… cup of Solyndra VANCYBOY? LOL.
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/042012-608705-green-collar-jobs-failure.htm?p=full
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encinom
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 4:00pmAvengerK
The problem with you is that you can’t read, where Romney has disdain for half the country, Obama says he needs to reach out. You just sheepishly accept Beck and Fox News talking points as truth and don’t think for yourself.
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AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 4:30pmHmmmm speaking of talking points ENCiDIOT..you’re repeating the Messina email “disdain” tagline like a true believer. Do your ears ***** up when Messina uses a dog whistle?
Let’s talk about disdain for the American people ENCIDIOT/MONICNE/ad nauseum…..
Barack Obama subordinates the loan guarantee to Solyndra that makes sure that the tax payer is left on the hook for the failed enterprise while his campaign bundler’s $75million stake in Solyndra is protected. This is not disdain to you champ?
Or how about the latest rumblings from GM? GM has asked the government to sell it’s 27% stake in the company because the salary caps are inhibiting the hiring of much needed new talent into the company. Obama’s administration won’t comply because by selling the stake, it would highlight the degree of loss the taxpayer got hit with in buying a stake in GM (rather than doing what Romney called for..a structured bankruptcy that would have saved the company but torn up union contracts)….so Obama let’s GM wallow in it’s misery for his campaign. This is not disdain for Americans to you little camper?
What about calling Americans bigots and paranoind delusionals when times get tough in his “god, guns and bigots” speech to a group of San Francsico elites at a fundraiser ENCiDIOT/MONICNE? Is this not disdain to you ENCIDIOT? I know you’re worried ENCiDIOT..because this “47%” meme is about to blow up in Obama’s face when Romney begins tying it to Soetero.
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Creativethinker
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:38pmI just hope the 47% are too lazy to vote in November
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resme
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:50pmWe should work to abolish the income tax. Not expand the base to 100%. Err, Income tax is a progressive idea, GOP needs to stop championing that crap….
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CatB
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:40pmI think a lot of them are too lazy .. and if they think he will win (like the phoney polls say) then they won’t bother .. I don’t care what the polls say .. I WILL VOTE!
R & R 2012
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The_Obama-Romney_Ticket
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:00pmCreativethinker – “I just hope the 47% are too lazy to vote in November”
LOL, funny.
Okay, so too lazy to work 47% Obama-base doesn’t vote. The rest who actually work vote for Romney and …
… the Progressives (communists) still win.
“I’m very concerned about this election, as are you. I said the other day, actually it was several weeks ago when Ann Coulter wrote her piece defending RomneyCare, I said, there it is. It’s not enough that we should support him if he’s the nominee. We have to sell out our principles. We have to split hairs over RomneyCare and ObamaCare, make Federalism arguments … I’m not doing that. … I mean I’ve got audio here up the wazoo where he’s defending the individual mandate and actually encouraging the people who are putting together ObamaCare to consider it.” -Mark Levin 3/5
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soybomb315
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 12:29am47% of America will automatically not vote for Romney? Still sure he was the best candidate?
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DarkJello
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 12:59amHopefully they will remain as lazy as ever on election day.
@soy:
The principle of his statement stands. Way too many vote for “free” handouts. Fact.
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Mil-Dot
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:05amThe govt goons are pumping in 3rd world miscreants by the millions so they can freeload on the rest of us. Also, I would love to meet the creepy little coward in the Blazes censorship HQ apparatus that is offended by my remarks. He is probably a fricking Obama supporter because he is afraid of mere words. You can’t get more cowardly than that.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:23am@darkjello
Then the goal should be to re-educate them and tell them the truth – not to discount them and insult their intelligence
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Wildblue3
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:53amI’m with you, Thinker
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All Pro
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:38pmI LUV this part,
“Mitt Romney wants to help all Americans struggling in the Obama economy. As the governor has made clear all year, he is concerned about the growing number of people who are dependent on the federal government, including the record number of people who are on food stamps, nearly one in six Americans in poverty, and the 23 million Americans who are struggling to find work. Mitt Romney’s plan creates 12 million new jobs in four years, grows the economy and moves Americans off of government dependency and into jobs.”
No details just pie in the sky promises. Everything will be sunshine and lollipops.
Hey Willard, your record as governor is identical to Obama’s as president.
Willard is clueless. RNC WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:46pmI get tired of both sides giving projections based on growth.
“Well how do you plan on paying for that?”
“Well, the new growth that we create will pay for that.”
“So you can guarantee the amount of growth you’re predicting?”
“………yes?”
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DoGooder
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:49pmPie in the sky promises? You are an uninformed troll a hole…nuff said
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rookorami
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:13pmPretty sure Obama ran on empty promises for ’08 election. It worked. He ran on Change, some are finding out its not the kind of change we wanted.
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floridareader
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:30pm@ all pro
these are the real “pie in the sky promises”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZgQhnNRSuw&feature=player_embedded
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:37pmGiven the suddeness which it cut off I have to question if the video has been editied and if so, how much plus when and where was it taken? Too many unknowns…
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CatB
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:53pm@SNOW .. it does show that the last line was edited out … “which is to get born in America” I remember hearing him say that … I don’t think it is this video … it may have been at the convention .. I think it is a line he uses … regarding the FACT that being born in America is like having been born with a silver spoon.
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Restored One
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 12:05am@Snow, I scrolled down looking for a comment by you because you are one of the few here of sound mind. This scares me because tomorrow, the Middle East situation will now be buried. The issue that could have won us the election will no longer be at the forefront. Earlier today I thought a great talking point would be how all of the gaffes and downright cover ups of the Administration keep being swept under the rug because another one keeps coming at such a fast pace (F&F, Solyndra, Protests, etc). No one can keep up.
What is so sad is that what Romney said is the Truth! But so many do not want the truth. That is why they lie to get into office. Of all things, Romney comes out on defense about people not paying taxes. He just threw out the red meat to the the lion. The one thing that I can say about Mitt is that he has held more news conferences than Obama. He does have the cojones to get out there and be ripped uo.
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soybomb315
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 12:33am@snow
did you not listen to the first minute??? His opinion on the 47% of america is clear. Romney also clearly stated that his goal is to win the 5% of independents or whatever….wow, aim high there mitt. Instead of 5%, he could have had 10% by just adopting the policies of Ron Paul
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reform
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 5:06amSoy, the last report was 42 mill voted demo and 30 mil voted rep and 24 mil are independents the question is how many of that 42 mil will turn out for him this time? I mean they were real up with him last time were they not? They must be real scared if they are sending out voters ballots to the people here in Nevada who are on welfare. First time since i lived here this has happened that being since 1975!!!!!
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Mil-Dot
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:05pmRestored One,
Please quit sucking up to Snow and proclaiming the rest of us are idiots. You look like a fool. There are more than a few sound posters on here. You must be fricking blind.
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Restored One
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:43pm@REFORM, sorry to offend anyone, but I do not have time to read all 1100 posts so I tend to look for comments from names that have been on this blog since day one. Also, it is very time consuming to skip over those who always reply to the known trolls. I will add you to my list of names to check out. I will see if you are worth my time.
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Restored One
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:46pmSorry REFORM, I meant MIL-DOT.
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RLTW
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:37pmI found nothing wrong with anything he said, the left are victims by choice so why is it so hard for them to except truths
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soybomb315
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:45pmYou dont think it is important to win on the battlefield of ideas? You would rather this country be divided into two groups: workers and nonworkers??
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Leadthemtothelight
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:55pmThat is the reality …workers vs non workers. The only way to breach it is through education. Which is largely controlled by liberals who perpetuate the entitlement mentality.
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Justone View
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:56pmI agree. This is an honest observation of a voter block. I have a very good friend who is poor and will only vote for those who act like they care about the poor. He has felt entitled to everything and seems grateful for nothing. He hates rich people and hates Republicans because he sees himself as a victim. I saw his FREE cell phone laying on his table and said “Hey, I see you get a cell phone.” His replay “Yah! They sent me the phone but not instructions and not charger!” He was not grateful for the phone. He sees himself as a victim and Obama has this group locked up.
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Chet Hempstead
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:00pmWhat’s wrong is that he said this was true of all of the 47% who he believes are sure to vote for Obama, every single one of them, that there are no people at all who are personally responsible but committed to vote against him for any reason of legitimate disagreement over important issues. This means that a good number of the decisive 6% who could go either way just decided that he is an arrogant jerk.
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RLTW
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:14pmSOY
It sounds like you believe the battlefield of ideas should be waged only on the collective ramparts of politics.
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Leadthemtothelight
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:15pmIt’s arrogant to speak the truth? If 47% of the population pay no taxes and live off the government how is it arrogant to point out that that portion of society is lost?
Ask not what your country can do for you….But what you can do for your country.
Just have a little bit of pride people. Oh and a healthy dose of bust your ass :)
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Reagangirl81
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:16pmExactly! He’s just calling it like it is. Why is the truth so offensive to these lemmings.
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soybomb315
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:27pmoh well, you guys prove why I cannot trust the republican party. It is filled with blind cheerleaders who lap up anything that comes out of the dear leader’s mouth.
Our mission is too important to ignore 47% of the population
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Mrsnary
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:34pmThey rather be served fish than go out and fish themselves. So sad
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vox_populi
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:47pm“That is the reality …workers vs non workers.”
Exactly. Working proletarians, making wages and salaries, vs. non-working capitalists collecting interest off of the things they own. The vast majority of Americans work for a living; a tiny minority sit around collecting checks composed of the skimmed off value created by others.
One solution. Revolution.
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RLTW
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:54pmSOY
Why don’t you start working on the barrier breaking one page pamphlet that will reach the collective mob? I mean I get your point they need to be educated, but no one is going to undue a hundred years of collectivist brainwashing anytime soon.
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soybomb315
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:12pm@RLTW
People like Ron Paul have the message to break down party barriers and show people the intent of the founders. A lot of people have been converted that way.
Sure beats throwing your hands in the air and beating your head against the wall
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Chet Hempstead
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:30pmLeadthemtothelight
Here’s what’s wrong with your math. The 47%, if it is that high, who don’t pay taxes includes the people who don’t pay because they are too young or too old too work. Many of those who are too old are among those who are sure to vote for Romney. Those who are too young include the approximately 1/8 of the overall population who are also too young too vote, and, therefore, don’t count among the 47% of voters committed to either side. That means that even if none of the citizens who don’t pay taxes for some other reason were Romney voters (which I don’t believe for a second) there would still have to be many millions of tax paying citizens among those who intend to vote for Obama.
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Chet Hempstead
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:37pmChet Hempstead
Whoops, allow me to correct my own math. Approximately 25% percent of the population is too young to vote. So, even if none of the citizens who don’t pay taxes for some other reason were Romney voters (which, again, I do not believe), well over half of those who intend to vote for Obama are tax paying citizens.
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Individualism
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:53amVox their crystal night is coming and the 99 percent won’t be divided by faith or race this time.
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Gonzo
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:07amAgreed RLTW. As Biden might say… BFD.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:38pmVox – You show what a ****** you are. Those business owners are the ones who invested their own money into making sure that this company is successful. Unlike you welfare bums who could care less about the success of a company yet you want these bums to be able to have a say in how companies are run and how much they should pay in taxes?
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soybomb315
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:37pmFolks, this is why you want a Constitutional Liberty candidate instead of moderates like Romney. People who believe in the Constitution believe that we need to re-educate the public and let them know the truth and how things are supposed to be. But people like Mitt Romney just want to win elections by a point or two and continue this republican/democrat paradigm
If you want a better future and if you want to win the “untouchables” to your side – vote for people who sound on principles and have the courage to speak against tyranny
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Eastinfection
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:01pmHey SOY… Who won the “who is ENCINOM?” contest this weekend? I tried but GRIMM avoided all the articles i battled on ;)
Anyway.. as usual you’re right on $ here…..
I AM Romney’s swing vote and he dismisses me completely….
I pay zero (0) taxes..(other than sales tax for the considerable amount of crap i consume)…
because (a) i’m a single parent, & (b) my trade relies on the housing market & my biz has taken a loss 3 straight years.
I’ve never been eligible for unemployment benefits so i’ve never collected any.
I may be eligible for food stamps, for all i know, but i’ve never sought them either.
i just keep plugging away.. and hope it gets better.
He’s starting to buy into class warfare, himself?.. shaking my head…..
Wish your boy Gar-Jo had a prayer.
Ug… cheers.
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Berbel73
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:15pmThe progressives have a 100 year head start on redefining the country and what the role of government should be. They have the media, all levels of education, and the courts all in their corner. There is no way that we are going to change all of that in just one election. It is going to take some time to get conservative constitutional ideals reintroduced back into society. Its going to take electing the right people at all levels of government; local, state, and federal. So while Romney might not be the perfect conservative candidate, he is certainly a change in that direction.
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drs1969
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:37pmRe: Berbel
I don’t think we have that much time. Romney may turn out to our Gorbachev. Too timid and was overtaken by events. USSA 2012=USSR 1990.
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ConstantineTheConservative
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:40pmSoy -
I have read a couple of your posts, and I get, and agree, with what you are saying; however – not going to happen. I have several close friends, and mean, good close friends that I have tried to ‘educate’ for years. They absolutely do not want to hear it. The days of Reagan are gone; never to return. This is a very chilling reality that I myself am having a very tough time accepting, but it is our reality right now, and we have to deal with it.
I work as hard as I can to get libs and progressives to see America without the ‘filters’; it’s near impossible.
I’ve been on and off of unemployment for more time than I want to admit – I HATE it! I had an 80K job w/ incredible benefits up until Christmas ’09. I now live off Food Stamps, Medicare, etc. By the Grace of God I am still in my home, and my family is still intact.
This is no longer the country my father once knew and loved. Its character, ethics, and moral compass are lost. Can it be regained, I have no idea.
In spite of an economy that continues to collapse, and the Mid East in flames, Obama’s numbers are rising! I fully understand that this could very well be a result of skewed polling, but if so, is there nothing that can be trusted anymore? If not, what kind of country does America now want?
I am at a loss; and have been living in a state of disbelief for a country that I love so dearly become something so opposite of what our Constitution meant it to be.
And if an Obama second term?
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justangry
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:41pmBerbel, BS he isn’t even a moderate change in the right direction. He’s the same damn thing except for gay marriage, domestic energy, and killing Muslims. Everything else, he and the Commie in Chief agree on. At least at one time or another. Depends on whose **** he’s kissing on his quest to rule the world.
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Eastinfection
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:05pm@ JUST… lol!…. love ya bro, and like SOY, you are usually money…. The key point in your comparison of Barry n Mitt IS “energy”… it’s a big deal. Could prolong the carnage long enough for schmucks like me to acquire & stockpile the necessary amount of “Ramen Noodles” to survive the transition to valid Libertarian candidates…. Otherwise…. (is there an emoticon for the ‘cutthroat’ gesture ?)
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justangry
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:30pm@East, It’s not that I don’t think his energy policy is better than Obama’s. I do, but what good is it going to do with Bush’s foreign policy? Besides your Chinese noodles won’t be available if Romney starts a trade war with them….
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Eastinfection
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:47pmJUST… don’t think Romney’s gonna start a trade war. Don’t think he’s gonna do much different than Barry in most regards…. anywhere…. more intervention, more troops, way more (unbelievably) drone strikes… But i think he will drill. I think he will re-open the gulf and Alaska and fracking, etc. These things will help MY biz 4sure…. Like i’ve said before.. i’ll be the whore… i’ll vote for Romney. Not asking anyone else to but i can ACTUALLY see the dif it will make in MY life. I AM A SELFISH VOTE- SLUT… apologetically so.
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soybomb315
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:42pman honest whore is better than a crazy whore
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Mr.buff1959
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:27amAmen.
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1froglegs
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:37pmEverybody knows that the day of reckoning is coming for the welfare state. The Big Fat Greek Canary is choking in the coal mine, and the welfare class hasn’t noticed because they are currently faking a disability so they can get SSI.
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Expatjames
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:36pmYa… and……so he was speaking the truth. There are the 47 percent “the hardcore” democratic party supporters that will support Obama, even if he is ,anti-business, anti-liberty, anti-independence, anti-Israel, ant-christian, anti-religious freedom, anti-life, pro-islamic, pro-communist, pro-minority, anti-white, anti-everything American’s stand for. Romney is right so what’s the problem? not used to hearing the truth?
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justangry
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:49pmSo you think Romney is pro-liberty? May I ask what makes you say this? The attacks on our freedom are bipartisan. Everything that’s destroying this country is bipartisan. What freedoms that Obama taken from you that he’s promised to restore?
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Simonne
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:09pmHe just stated the truth. I just read that 67% of democrats feel the government should do more for them so they would never vote for Romney. Too many people don’t want to hear the truth.
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lel2007
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:36pmYou cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot help little men by tearing down big men.
You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.
You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot establish sound security on borrowed money.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than you earn.
You cannot build character and courage by destroying men’s initiative and independence.
And you cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they can and should do for themselves. ~ W.J.H. Boetcker – The Ten Cannots
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Expatjames
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:40pmAmen!!!
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68Patriot
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:07pmExactly
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BODYBAG
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:36pmHey, Jim Messina: FU
Romney’s answer was honest, and he’s RIGHT.
You and your commie Kenyan boss have nearly succeeded in turning this once great nation
into a squalid communist ghetto of mindless, dependent, lethargic, sloths.
To be 100% honest I am truly surprised none of you have had your lee harvey oswald moment yet.
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Marine25
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:15pm@bodybag
Your last sentence is as classless as any comment I have seen here.
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BODYBAG
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:33pmGood. Glad you enjoyed it
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drs1969
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:42pmI figure he hasn’t that moment because he was installed by the very same guys that Oswald was working for, namely, the Communists.
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mr.goodvibe
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:22pmI has not happened because of Biden, from bad to worse man.
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antrancher
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:36pmRomney is right. There are many who are lost forever to Socialism and Victimhood. By now, if they do not see what is going on there is no use bothering with them. The other 50% is who work and pay taxes, even if they are unemployed at the moment.
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soybomb315
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:48pmi take it you are not christian?
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13th Imam
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:49pmSoydork Saul Alinsky DEMOCRAT
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mr.goodvibe
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:24pmI think he has turned so far right that he wound up on the left.
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Eastinfection
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:30pmI once dated a tree- hugger girl that was so left that she actually said “MY kids are NEVER going to watch TV”
How many far-righties say the same?
home schoolers i’m looking YOUR way…. LOL!
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Mil-Dot
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:00amLook at Soy, pretending to be a Christian so he can point his finger and say “you’re no Christian !” Nice try you fricking commie prog.
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Individualism
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:07amsocialism is not money distributed from the poor and middle class to the wealthy.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:25amsomeone who is christian wouldnt say someone else is “lost forever” to some sort of ideology
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RoBoTech
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:36pmStop it!
Romney is RIGHT, you dead beats just don’t want to admit it.
STAY in poverty, the rest of us are leaving and THEN see how much you get.
NADA!!
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PutMoreOnMyPlate
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:24pmWhat would happen if everyone quit their jobs? Would the government be able to support them without taxes? Or would the Fed just print more money?
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wisehiney
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:35pmAll true. Don’t think it will hurt. The deadbeats are not motivated this time. Gas and food prices are gonna pee off plenty of them. Also benefit cuts, loss of gov’t jobs. Turnout is all that matters. Get an early ballot for your senile uncle.
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JQCitizen
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:34pmI don’t see any LIES in this audio; (Which is ALREADY doing better than Obama, who gives us a LIE A MINUTE!); The only beef I have with what he said is that I think he should go talk to the 47 percent and the Latinos, and MAKE THE CASE for Constitutional freedoms, and free enterprise, and how it would better THEIR lives. That’s how Reagan connected with so many!
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DesertRose1960
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:23pmRonald Reagan was elected by a bare 50% in a 50% voter turnout. His voters were older, White, Protestant males with more money and education than the average American. When you do the math, Reagan was elected by about 15% of the possible voter pool.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:52amROSE, Okay, and Clinton was first elected by 42% of the electorate.
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DoGooder
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:33pmActually, he is speaking the truth about those sucking off of all the rest of us, and it is clear that he is praising the fact that he was born in America (A very patriotic thing to do). These a holes don’t understand that because they don’t care about the sacrifices that were made for that freedom. This is actually an excellant campaign video for Romney.
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:33pmRomney spoke the truth. Almost half of this country are on the dole. The communists and blacks will vote for Obama even if obama got up and sang “Mammie” in old-style black face make-up. If he stood in Harlem and said he was going to send the really dark ones back to Africa…the blacks would still vote for him. They have a lot of nerve calling whites “raaaaaacist”.
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drs1969
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:50pmThank You!
Call a Spade a Spade.
95% of the blacks voted for him. If a white isn’t being called a racist by a black, then they’re probably not breathing. Many whites are so brainwashed and dependent now, they won’t know how to behave when anarchy strikes and they don’t have their slave masters in DC to tell them what to do.
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RoBoTech
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:33pmRomney is RIGHT!!
And how do we know?
Because the brain dead zombie liberals are whining and screeching, without even knowing why, other than their “dear Leader” is doing it, too.
Keep it up Mr Romney, if half is for Obama, that still leaves half, for YOU!!
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U.N.hater
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:32pmI don’t see anything rong in what he said.Truth is the truth.Half the country is for freedom other half are commi’s..
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resme
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:55pmI seriously doubt half of this country is for freedom, I’d say maybe 5% or less. The other 95% are a bunch of Clovers.
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michael48
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:32pmno sense in even trying to talk to the dem-wits..professional panhandlers, gov. gumba seatwarmers, gov. gumba unions, poverty program pimps…they’ve taped into the cash cow tax payers and haven’t a clue how to make a real living..they’re all in…this is the last chance to have a shot at saving the country and it’s 230 year sucessful climb to the top…He!! the damage is so severe that even that is being optimistic…47% on the teat is a tough row to hoe…best vote or be willing to do what you’re told..
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docmacs411
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:32pmWhat he said was completely true…and I can only imagine what o says behind closed doors…or on a hot mike “more flexible”.
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UnsubtleSatire
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:31pmThere was a time in my life where I didn’t pay any income taxes because I had been laid off and it took a couple months to find a new job which put me below that income tax bracket. I’m glad Romney thinks I took no personal responsibility during that time. I know own my own business because of hard work and personal responsibility, screw Romney, screw Obama. We’d be better off without a President then either of these two.
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pissantno.10
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:41pmsome how me thinks you aren a liberal carrot sucker do you really think your lies work here. naw you dont cause your stupied.
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:42pmYou have completely missed the point but thanks for trying.
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DoGooder
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:46pmAll of us have had hard times but we worked our way out, He’s talking about those professional beggers that hang on Obama’s every word. So screw you buddy. You whiny little b otch
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justangry
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:54pmThere you go! You’ll probably get a kick out of this latest Tom Woods speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp5hMiTS2dg
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newwell
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:03pmI don’t believe that Romney was speaking about a person who did take personal responsibility like you did. You went out & looked for a job, you wanted to work, and succeeded in obtaining work.
He is speaking about those people who have “learned how to play the game” & get their livelihood from the government.And plan to remain that way.
I did income taxes for more than 10 years. It was absolutely disgusting to watch a LOT of people get an $8000 to $10000+ income tax refund & go buy a big screen TV or a Wii system instead of taking care of their children first. And yes, that happened A LOT, I worked with many of these people’s children at school for 10+ years. I had clients that would ask me what the “earned income tax credit” threshold was going to be for the next year so they’d know haw much money they could make. They would even have the nerve to tell me that they would make sure that they only worked until they reached that threshold. They’d make $15000 a year with 3 children, get welfare, medicaid, food stamps, housing allowance, utility help, etc. Add it all together with the income tax refund & it amounts to well over $35000 per year.
I’ve got many more of these type of stories, but I’d just be venting instead of being productive.
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Individualism
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:04amthere not even elected, there selected, don’t comply with their so called executive orders and stand your ground against the murderers that try to enforce it.
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Creativethinker
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:29pmGee what is so horrible about Mitt Romney speaking the truth
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soybomb315
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:43pmthe truth is that the message of liberty can reach ANYONE. People like Mitt Romney, who believe people are divided along party lines, are the problem
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barber2
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:31pmSOY: you sound like an Obama looney: the ones who believe that apologies will change the minds of brainwashed haters…or brainwashed Lefties…
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RLTW
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:42pmSOY
You disregard the fact that lines drawn are in many cases self-imposed, ideological, and not just political, many of these 47% choose to be part of the collective, some because it makes them feel stronger, others because they’re overwhelmed with their own individual worth.
Money, rhetoric and kindness will never fix people who willingly give up their individuality for a collective mob.
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soybomb315
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:53pm@RLTW
Well what do you expect when one party offers free money while the other party offeres hypocrites? I dont blame them for going with the easy route. The only way we win is by bringing the truth
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RLTW
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:23pmSOY
I expect people to be individuals in search of freedom, a soul and personal responsibility.
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TAXEVERYONE
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:09amSoybomb, anyone who likes to hear themself talk as much as you do, must have some real personality problems.
Quit monopolizing the board.
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Individualism
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:28amthat he just killed any chance he had left of beating Obama.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:38ami’ll stop posting so much when you guys stop being wrong so much
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Mr.Fitnah
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:26pmWhat will ORomney say when he fail to meet his crazy 12 million #?
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68Patriot
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:15pmLet’s find out. If he doesn’t we’ll hold him accountable and kick him out in 4 years for lying just like we are about to kick Obama out for lying.
68
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:26pmSurprised that a guy who has been running for President for 8 years isn’t more ready for the spot light.
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Stelex
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:36pmI don’t want a President in the spotlight, we have that with President Kardasian. I’d rather my President was in the White House working. A novel concept for the currant occupant. Also those on the Gov Teat are most likely going to vote for President Teat. Thats just a fact. Unfortunately the milk coming out of the Teat is our money. WTF
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soybomb315
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:42pm@Moderation
He spent 8 years trying to figure out how to win the republican primary – winning the general election wasnt even considered
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 8:43pmBy “working” you mean giving a speech to private high dollar fundraisers and saying you don’t care about 47% of the electorate?
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barber2
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 9:37pmMODER: Yeah. Old Romney shouldn’t be talking to those nasty ” rich” people who pay all of the taxes. Those nasty ” rich” people Obama has been trashing since 2012. Romney should be talking to the poor people who don’t pay any taxes and who have been brainwashed by Obama to hate the nasty rich. DUH. What are you thinking ??? …never mind…. think I know….
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on September 17, 2012 at 10:22pm@BARBER2
Obama extended the Bush tax cuts. I think something like 1/3rd of the 787 billion Stimulus was tax cuts.
Obama supported the bailout which made the big banks even bigger and re-distributed money from the middle class to the rich.
Unfortunately, your post only shows one half. Yes, he is pandering to the wealthy….at the expense of everyone else.
He lumped every Obama supporter in with the Reagan created “welfare queen” and said they have no interest in taking responsibility for their lives.
Tell that to someone who lost their job and is unable to find one.
Tell that to someone who had health insurance but went broke paying for their bills after the caps ran out and are now poor as hell.
Tell that to a child whose single mom works 2 jobs and is still living in dire poverty just to get a decent education.
Tell that to a 90 year old black man who endured horrible racism and never thought he’d see the day when America would vote into the highest office another black man.
Tell that to a student who just got a degree and is unable to find a job.
Yup, they’re all just looking for government handouts and don’t want to work a day in their lives and never want to take responsibility for themselves. Such a joke that it almost can’t be taken seriously…..yet he said it.
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19RANDY59
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:40amHey Moderation, He’s right, and he shouldn’t care about the losers, and freeloaders that make up the 47%. That’s the problem with this country. To many people looking for a hand out, instead of looking for work. That’s why every level of government is corrupt. Anyone who runs for office, has to promise things to their constituency, in order to get votes. If you run on a platform that says, you’re going to fulfill the oath of office, you’d be lucky if even your own family would vote for you. can you imagine someone running for city office, that said they would only hire a police chief that would back up the second amendment rights of every citizen. They’d be laughed right out of town. Even though it’s the law of the land. But the reality is, that if you carry a weapon, without a registration, or permit, you’ll be fined, and or, incarcerated. Yet, if you exercise the right that the Constitution, the supreme law of the land, The reason we are called The United States of America, The one thing every state is united on, you may be punished, or even killed by the very people who have sworn a solemn oath to uphold, and defend it. The next amendment to the Constitution, should be to take the right to vote away from these leaches who are on government assistance. Then the thirteenth amendment should be repealed. It was never legally ratified in the first place. Romney definitly has my vote, and I hope he sticks to his guns on this issue. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
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acer561
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 5:55pmIf you want the nice handout you won’t get by all means go with Obama, do you really think he is going to change for the better now after four years of doing nothing.He has only one objective for this country and that is ruin it.So if that is where you want to go fine!But remember if you make the wrong move it will be too late to change your mind Romney will not be there for you then you will have to fend for yourself.As far as myself goes I am not worried about anything,I will vote for Romney because he has common sense as compared to the imposter in our White House.My days are numbered anyways and I am not worried about my future.My GOD knows what is best for me.I wouldn’t want to live those long years without anything to look forward to to make my life at least a little a fordable to enjoy the rest of my life with.
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