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Appeals Judge Allows Obama Admin. to Enforce ‘Indefinite Detention’ Law

Sep. 18, 2012 5:59pm Jason Howerton

Appeals Judge Allows Obama Administration to Continue Enforcing Indefinite Detention Law

This image reviewed by the US military shows the flag and barbed wire within the 'Camp Six' detention facility of the Joint Detention Group at the US Naval Station in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, January 19, 2012. (Credit: AFP/Getty Images)

NEW YORK (TheBlaze/AP) — Less than a week after a federal judge in New York ruled against it, an appeals judge has temporarily allowed enforcement of a law that permits the indefinite detention of people believed to have supported terrorists.

Despite U.S. District Judge Katherine Forrest’s claim that the “indefinite detention” provision found in the National Defense Authorization Act for 2012 could infringe on First Amendment rights, the Obama administration immediately asked an appeals judge to suspend the ruling.

The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan order was issued late Monday by Circuit Judge Raymond J. Lohier after the government warned in court papers that the law was necessary in the nation’s battle against terrorism.

Lohier said the order would remain in effect until Sept. 28, when a three-judge panel was scheduled to hear arguments on the government’s effort to block a ruling that struck down the law.

The law says the U.S. government can indefinitely detain anyone who “substantially” or “directly” provides “support” to forces such as al-Qaida or the Taliban.

Last week, Forrest ruled that the government already has plenty of authority to detain terrorists and anyone suspected of aiding them without help from the vaguely written law. She urged Congress to make the law more specific so journalists, scholars, political activists and others would not worry that contacting enemies of the United States would put them in jeopardy of indefinite incarceration.

Lawyers for the government wrote that the judge’s actions were unprecedented and exceeded her authority. They also complained that it seemed to be worldwide in effect, “intruding upon military operations in the ongoing armed conflict against al-Qaida, the Taliban and associated forces.”

Plaintiffs’ attorney Carl Mayer said it was “astounding” that Lohier’s order was issued before evidence was presented.

“The government hasn’t put in any evidence. They just keep making these broad assertions,” Mayer said. “It’s all a `trust us’ proceeding.”

Jerika Richardson, a spokeswoman for federal prosecutors, said the government had no comment.

In May, Forrest temporarily struck down the law. She heard additional arguments last month before issuing her final ruling.

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katzkiner
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:54pm
It will be amusing to watch the left roll it out the morning after Romney wins. With Obama there has been no war protests, no code pink, no rants against tyrany of NDAA, or the Unequal Justice Department. The day after Romney wins the crazies come out (OWS) like we have not seen since the 60′s. The police state you built awaits.

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- Caniac Steve
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:50pm
  I’m hoping that moments after Romney was sworn in..75 % of all employees at all levles at the DOJ slink off into the darkness and quit..I sent Romney’s campaign Judge Andrew Napolitiano’s name for AG by the way, as he is a “real” constitutional scholar..and not the pretender in the White House
  
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- The_Obama-Romney_Ticket
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:16pm
  “Appeals Judge Allows Obama Admin. to Enforce ‘Indefinite Detention’ Law”
  
  But … but … armed and Constitution-abiding Americans haven’t weighed in on this yet … you “servants” take too much upon yourselves …
  
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- Mutiny
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:20pm
  You do realize the NDAA was fully supported by the Republicans in Congress. You may also realize Romney is also in support of the NDAA as written.
  
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- PointBreak
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:54pm
  After RINOmney wins? Like my grandfather used to say – ‘spit in one hand and wish in the other’. That mormon clown has less chance of being elected than Ron Paul. Literally.
  
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- Wolfgang the Gray
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 9:26pm
  @Mutiny – Yep, I checked the voting record and Paul Ryan also voted for NDAA. That just means that there are problems with our elected leaders not listening to We The People on both sides. I guess we can only hope that if/when Romney wins, they will cut that part of the NDAA when it comes up for the 2013 vote. Woodrow Wilson had his secret police and picked up over a thousand people (who disagreed with his policies) in the night and whisked them away without any due process. It is a travesty that OUR elected officials (who work for US) had the gall to put that into law.
  
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- Secret Squirrel
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 9:29pm
  .
  So the blind sheik will be released, and the TEA Party will be imprisoned.
  It’s democrat nirvana.
  Can you say, “America is now a communist nation”?.
  
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- johnjamison
  Posted on September 19, 2012 at 7:25am
  How can an officer of the Constitution allow the “inalienable”rights of a U.S. Citizen be taken away.
  THIS IS A SIGN TO ALL AMERICAN LIBERAL CONSERVATIVE MODERATE INDEPENDENT,BLACK,BROWN,TAN, ALL AMERICAN THAT THE COURTS ARE NO LONGER SERVING THE PUBLIC TRUST.
  
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- johnjamison
  Posted on September 19, 2012 at 7:28am
  yOU DO REALIZE MUTINY THAT OBAMA SIGNED IT AND HIS JUSTICE DEPARTMENT JUST FOUGHT TO REINSTATE INDEFINITE DETENTION MEASURE THAT WERE TAKEN OUT BY ANOTHER JUDGE
  
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- lefty5005
  Posted on September 19, 2012 at 8:00am
  That is fine. We can then police all the leftist, sort of similar to what Pinochet did in Chile in the early 70′s. They can be rounded up (we know who they are) taken to the desert in the north and buried. Then America can get back to being a real country instead of one victimized by extreme leftwing nuts and Muslims. America does not need any marxists, Muslims or anyone who does not agree with the Constitution. It may take tucking it away for a few day to actually get back to it. Oh, I forgot, take a bunch of lawyers with them also. Chile did not have a communist problem shortly after Pinochet took office and they didn’t come out loudmouthing. Oh, by the way, we can look at the Obama voting records while we are at it. If you voted for Obama twice you don’t get to hold any position of significance in America and if you are an immigrant you go back to where you came from. English is the language and Christianity is the religion, all the Muslims can go back to whatever s…..l..e they came from in the Middle East. If you were born here, change or get deported to your country of choice to practice Islam. It does not have to be recognized as a religion because it is not a religion. Religions don’t try to take over all of humanity and threaten violence if you don’t become Muslim. It’s a govt theocracy, a fanatical way of life and everyone of them are a part of the disease, not just the outspoken ones
  If they left wins and want’s to do the same thing I mentione
  
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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on September 19, 2012 at 2:51pm
  ARE WARNINGS GOING OUT
  
  If Obama looses the vote he will not leave office because he won the election but lost the vote.
  
  What will you do if this happens. What if Blacks begin shutting down their cities and going into the suburbs to take what is theirs? Will you rely on the police for protection?
  
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The-Monk
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:48pm
Well, I can use the same post from the future release of the Blind Sheikh story for this story;

Seems pretty simple to me…..

The NBPP can do no wrong.
Everyone that votes Dem is entitled to free stuff.
The Islamic Jihadist are our friends.
The Tea Party is baaaaad. (move out-stretched arm , palm down, left to right)
Obama cares about YOU!

Simple….. Right?

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:25pm
  Hi MONK, LOL.
  Another good day at work I trust?
  
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- resme
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:40pm
  @monk, I’d like to get your opinion, also.
  
  http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/09/federal-reserve-has-been-issued-police-powers/#.UFkCXRFkY1A.twitter
  
  Thanks
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:55pm
  RESME, If I may offer my opinion, they are now one of 14 federal agencies with armed police power. At this rate all of the federal civilian agencies will eventually become 0bama’s new army. But, this one is particularly worrisome. One would think that they would be more or less security guards, but I really wonder. I have to believe 0bama is doing more of that magic wand waving and giving them full police power.
  At least Andrew Jackson did one thing right as president by getting rid of the fed. Woodrow Wilson really screwed us over again. They can’t even prove that the 16th Amendment was fully ratified or not.
  
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- resme
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:12pm
  @rjj, I totally agree. In my opinion, The fed will do what it’s always done. Contract the money supply and create a depression, Where they come out as the savior and given more power. I’d love to a see a president use the slogan “And No Bank”.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:13pm
  Hi Resme,
  
  Had to run a quick errand and just got back. I’ll get to your link in a few. : )
  
  Hi RJJ,
  
  Yep, the 2nd day at the new job was very good.
  
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- resme
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:20pm
  @rjj,
  
  “After WWI, Germany fell into the hands of the international bankers. Those bankers bought her and they now own her, lock, stock, and barrel. They have purchased her industries, they have mortgages on her soil, they control her production, they control all her public utilities.
  
  The international German bankers have subsidised the present Government of Germany and they have also supplied every dollar of the money Adolph Hitler has used in his lavish campaign to build up threat to the government of Bruening.
  
  When Bruening fails to obey the orders of the German International Bankers, Hitler is brought forth to scare the Germans into submission…
  
  Through the Federal Reserve Board over $30 billion of American money has been pumped into Germany. You have all heard of the spending that has taken place in Germany…
  
  Modernistic dwellings, her great planetariums, her gymnasiums, her swimming pools, her fine public highways, her perfect factories. All this was done on our money. All this was given to Germany through the Federal Reserve Board. The Federal Reserve Board has pumped so many billions of dollars into Germany that they dare not name the total.”
  Congressman Louis T.McFadden (D-PA) who served twelve years as Chairman of the Committee on Banking and Currency.
  
  Wilson betrayed his mentor and colleague, William Jennings Bryan, Who later resigned from Wilson’s Sec of State. Wilson was nothing more than a puppet, Passing a banker bill written by the ban
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 9:37pm
  Hi Resme,
  
  I have a few different answers for you about your posted link;
  
  1- It doesn’t surprise me. Almost every grocery store has armed guards with the power to detain people.
  2- You and I also have the power of a “civilian arrest” to detain people. (See lawsuit resulting from improper detainment by a public person) because we can be sued for doing so.
  3- If you have read ProgressiveSlayers posts you would know that the USA is a no longer a Government but a corporation now. Being a corporation with control over the US Military is the same as the Fed having a Police Force. (I lost those links when I re-formatted my PC last Feb)
  4- Redistribution of wealth means redistribution or power. And Obama is very keen on both.
  5- Now here’s the real Monk thought on this subject and all Human issues…. people feel guilty for doing bad things to other people. The Human Ego says, “The guilty need to be punished”. So, the Ego, knowing that all Minds are joined and all Humans are Brothers, decides to punish itself by punishing its Brother. Then it feels guilty for what its done and starts all over again. It’s a never ending relationship of guilt and punishment. Very sad and very very true.
  
  We’ll discuss this more later.
  
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floridareader
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:45pm
Little by little BHO is using EO to write a new constitution that fits his hunger of power. And liberal judges are siding with him, disregarding the United States Constitution.

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- Drahcir
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:18pm
  Miranda vs. Madison, 5 US (2 Craneh) 137. 174. 176 (1803):
  
  “All laws which are repugnant
  
  to the Constitution are null
  
  and void.” Why?–because the
  
  U.S. Constitution is the Supreme
  
  Law of the land.
  
  In fact, legislation and presidential signing orders which impinge on rights secured by the Constitution are null and void from the get-go (( read Miller vs. U.S. 230 F 2d 486. 489 )).
  
  Further, “Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule [executive order] making or legislation which would abrogate them.” –Miranda vs. Arizona. 384 US 436 p. 491
  
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- floridareader
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:35pm
  @drahcir
  Thanks for the info. It’s important BHO, liberal judges and all involve in this administration know this.So far he has signed over 130 EO and many of them to get his way instead of going to congress to change an existing law.
  
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- I am 'We the People
  Posted on September 19, 2012 at 10:28am
  BO = Hitler – in this grab for power and general turning away from the supreme laws.
  
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hornz
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:45pm
A republican bill passed under Bush.

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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:51pm
  wrong….a republican bill passed and signed by Obama.
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:52pm
  Our one party system sucks ass and this is what we end up with,totalitarian bastards.
  
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- barber2
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:53pm
  Blame Bush much ? How about blaming the terrorists ?
  
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- LameLiberals
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:00pm
  barber2
  Blame Bush much ? How about blaming the terrorists ?
  ___________
  Don’t blame the terrorists – Blame Congress and presidents for NOT FOLLOWING THE CONSTITUTION.
  
  Have Congress DECLARE WAR on Al-Queda/Radical Islam and get it over with. Then any radical islam captured prisoners fall under Geneva Convention – NOT USA law.
  
  And, with Congress DOING ITS JOB by DECLARING WAR – it REMOVES THE DICTATOR POWER of the president to decide on his own WHO IS THE ENEMY and WHO IS DETAINED and WHO IS KILLED. Congress then decides NOT a single man called a president/dictator.
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:01pm
  Bush gave us the patriot act and TSA,both are unconstitutional and the TSA are nothing but privacy rapists.We essentially have one party in this country,do you see an R or D proposing eliminating whole departments? No you don’t and you never will even after our next depression,they won’t do it because it reduces the federal governments power and control over us.
  
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- conservativeblackman
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:12pm
  @Hornz..You liberals never have your facts straight. Taken straight from wiki: The bill passed the U.S. House 283 to 136 votes[2] and was signed into United States law on December 31, 2011, by President Barack Obama. This bill (HR1540) was sponsored by a RINO & had a majority democrat vote!
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:23pm
  CONSERVATIVEBLACKMAN, obviously HORNZ is perpetually stuck in the Blame Bush Zone. Its sort of like The Twilight Zone.
  
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- hornz
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:46pm
  The NDAA has been around since 2001. Tell me you guys know this? There was a stink over the wording of it this past year, but it’s been around for 12 years now.
  
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- Chuck7884
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:02pm
  The Patriot Act was Bush’s bill that he signed into law.The NBPP is the extension to said act. Office of homeland security belongs to Bush and all of it programs.So revision all you want about history.I remember Bush signing the Act shortly after September 11,2001 and TSA form shortly after that.But hey create a history you want.I’m for neither bill or act
  
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- dustinhicks1
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:34pm
  @Hornz If you new the reality may be you could open your eyes a little. The NDAA is the military funding bill that get passed every year, and yes you are correct, it has been around before Obama. However your lack of the ability to make sure you speak truth has left you in the dark. This year Obama put in new provisions that alllows him to determine the guilt of US citizens and lock them up for life without giving them a court date or trial or judge or jury….. He took away our 5th ammendment. The president didnt have these powers untill this year when HE PUT THEM into this years NDAA. BTW im not some republican advocating for Mitt Romney, he also said on tv he supports these new provisions. And it was Bush who first started this constitutional destroying in the first place. I dont like none of them
  
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- MetalPatriot
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:51pm
  @ProgressiveSlayer…
  
  We still see too many idiots blaming sides. It is as you say, a one party system. I believe the side blaming is nothing more than a distraction from the truth; most of our government are heavily involved in promoting the New World Order.
  
  We’re just here to pay the price.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:54pm
  Hey Progressiveslayer,
  
  Do you have those links to the USA is a corporation? If so, please post them again here;
  
  http://www.theblaze.com/stories/appeals-judge-allows-obama-admin-to-enforce-indefinite-detention-law/?corder=desc#respond
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on September 19, 2012 at 9:04am
  MONK I found this article,hope this helps.
  
  http://reality-bytes.hubpages.com/hub/The-Corporation-Of-The-United-States-Of-America
  
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watashbuddyfriend
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:34pm
And, why not? OMG!

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Armyduderetired
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:33pm
I am sick, and tired, to read these useless articles of the attack on “the peoples” right to protect all that has been scrificed under the Constitio. We will soon decide to stand with or against our very core values. I would like to believe that the majority of you would stand beside me. But after looking at the responses and replies that we are foxtrot uniform Charlie kilo. What a shame to actually whiteness the end of this experiment called the USA. See most of you in hell. Play ball!

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- Lt_Scrounge
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:16pm
  You forgot to add Echo Delta. BTW I have this sneaking suspicion that the people doing the talking the talk aren’t the ones who will be the ones walking the walk. The math says that the “bitter clingers” win when the SHTF. 100+ million gun owners versus less than 2 million military and police. That would make it like the German tanker following WWII. He said that while the German tanks were so much better that they could kill 11 Shermans for every Panzer lost, but that there was always that 12th Sherman coming over the hill. They talk about all of the ammo that the DHS has, but I know how many rounds I’ve seen being sold at gun shows in Phoenix, and DHS has nothing on the people hitting those shows. Some of the folks in Phoenix have been stocking up for a LONG time.
  
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- Dismayed Veteran
  Posted on September 19, 2012 at 4:47pm
  We got incoming but the sappers aren’t in the wire yet.
  
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breakobamanow
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:30pm
I believe in Jesus and not the government; arrest me!

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- ChildofJesus
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:35pm
  Same here! I’ll obey the Government only until they want to force or tell me to do something that would betray my faith. Then I can’t and won’t comply they can do what they wish with me but my life here I’m learning is nothing to lose it would be to gain everything.
  
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- Angel_light
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:35pm
  you know it may end up coming to that…
  
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- momrules
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:46pm
  Break……….Agree. My faith in God and His son is unshakable.
  
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- saneromeo
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:23pm
  Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
  http://saneromeo.wordpress.com/2012/09/17/a-prophecy-of-israel/
  
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- The Giver
  Posted on September 19, 2012 at 3:24am
  I hope that God will decide to heal our land. CBN is having daily national prayer for America 9/17- 11/6. Join in and spread the news. Let’s not give up guys. I Am is a loving God.
  
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:26pm
Secede now. It is the only logical solution. This doesn’t get fixed. The totalitarians and statists are engrained in every institution. Academia, judges, lawyers, politicians, bureaucrats, technocrats, corporatist CEO’s, bankers, ecnomists…on and on.

You either revolt and fight a civil war or we leave. That’s it. NO ELECTION FIXES THIS.

“How can I save you, this already happened” — James Cole, 12 Monkeys

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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:50pm
  They do have the police state buttoned up don’t they? Treasonous bastards have infected our government and judiciary.Leave to where Roth? America was the last best hope,if we go down that’s it the ballgame is over and the communist heathen win.
  
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- 2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:57pm
  Vote for Gary Johnson – That’ll show ‘em!!!
  
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- riseandshine
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:14pm
  Vote for Obama or Romney — That’ll show ‘em……….NOT.
  
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- resme
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:24pm
  It’s impossible to win at the ballot box.
  
  Statist control the most of the media,education,newspapers,corporations,congress, and senate. It’s nearly impossible to oust a sitting congressman. How can you nominate a liberty minded congressman against someone who has won several terms previously?
  
  “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”
  Winston Churchill
  
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- resme
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:39pm
  @roth, I’d like to get your opinion of this, http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/09/federal-reserve-has-been-issued-police-powers/#.UFkCXRFkY1A.twitter.
  
  Thanks.
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:47pm
  RESME Great Churchill quote and sadly America is filled with average voters.
  
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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on September 19, 2012 at 12:47pm
  Followed your link. I knew they had their own “LEO’s” (good grief). I was appreciative of the legislative link to the creation/authorization of them. Of course both parties…er…the party, voted for it. Absolutely scary that this happens in what was once the USA. I’m so ready for this mess to come to an end. See you in the FEMA camps.
  
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republic2011
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:21pm
the fact that this law is unconstitutional in so many facets plays not role… unbelievable. After we take back the Senate, the House and hopefully the Presidency, I think it is time to clean house in the Judicial branch. Throw them all out. They are disgraceful, constitution hating, maggots!

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- jacobstroubles
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:24pm
  As much as that would be desireable…very sadly..it’s not going to happen..
  very sad & very dark times ahead…
  wrath..coming..
  
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- Exrepublisheep
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:27pm
  Republicans wrote the bill, Obama’s using it. Judges fault?
  
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- Phreqguru
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:29pm
  Where’s the Like button!
  
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- U.N.hater
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:33pm
  Better yet go look at who voted to pass the bill in the first place and hold them accountable also…. That would be all in congress except 3 senaters. One of them that didn’t vote for it? Everyone call’s him crazy. Yea crazy my A$$!!!!!
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:50pm
  the republicans sponsored the bill, only three voted against it. There is no taking back the house and senate without first removing the cancerous traitors.
  
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- shorthorn
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:56pm
  And who appointed this Judge? Barack Obama!
  And who vacated the space he’s sitting in now?
  The Wise Latina!
  And lets not forget his confirmation vote in the Senate…92 to nothing! Great job, guys!
  
  the hits just keep on coming…
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:42pm
  SHORTHORN, Nominated by Schumer in 2010, yes, appointed by 0bama. He is showing his appreciation now.
  
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Daveed
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:21pm
Wow, is that law so journalists can not dig deeper into the Ambassador’s assasination and the layers of people behind it, plus the information concerning the Ambassadors CIA ties and a bigger than Watergate cover up on American weapons again being given to terrorists who use them to kill Americans? Wooooo hmmm hmmm hmmmm, this is big. So the big threat hanging over everybody’s head who could possibly be in the know of these things can fear for their life from Progressive Liberals abuse of power? That is not right. It is perverted. Everything PCD’s critizied people about, they themselves are the ones doing it, not the people they demonize. Shame on you Barrack Hussien Obama. Duh, people don’t you think the name gives a little insight into the world view of your chosen guy? Do ya still have that magically delicious thrill going up your thighs? Dp you still have hope. Did you like the progressive communist changes???? Still want free stuff? There is no free lunch, never has been. Just suckers getting sucked in as there is one born every minute. Always a string attached with the criminals and Lucifer.

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dickdastardly
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:18pm
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the galleys, heard in the very hall of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor—he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and wears their face and their garment, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation—he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city—he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared…….Marcus Tullius Cicero, 42 B.C.

TRANSLATION…..Obama MUST GO.

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- riseandshine
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:35pm
  That quotation goes equally as well with the Bush administration.
  
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Stan Horn
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:18pm
Coming to a FEMA camp soon….YOU… the American public that speaks out against a tyrannical president ….****

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- Exrepublisheep
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:28pm
  FEMA camps? Where? When? Who built them? Links?
  
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:17pm
So how soon do the roundups and terminations of US Citizens commense?

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- U.N.hater
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:49pm
  When the very first person is taken away that’s when we arm up and march to Washington D.C. and demaned they be released or die… What you do is stand the he!! up!!!! That’s what we do!!!!
  
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- saneromeo
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:28pm
  Remember the story about the soldier who was “hospitalized” for comments on “private” facebook page?
  They’ve already started rounding people up…
  http://saneromeo.wordpress.com
  
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- justangry
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 11:54pm
  The roundups have begun. Two veterans posting conspiracy theories on FB, and a whistle blower that has been in jail for 2 1/2 years without any charges filed, or a trial. DHS just purchased another 200 million sniper rounds. You know to keep us safe…
  
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Rickfromillinois
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:17pm
I don’t care who is in office, this should scare everyone.

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- RLTW
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:39pm
  So should I now understand that all the military training and ME travel the good taxpaying people provided me with will now make me suspect under this treasonous law.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:45pm
  RLTW, Undoubtedly all of us, and I have been retired for 16 years.
  
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- Lt_Scrounge
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:26pm
  That makes at least three of us. The question isn’t will they try to be stupid and round people up, but rather how many of them die before they realize how badly they’ve misjudged the obstinate nature of the “bitter clingers” that they spent so much time and money training to that oath we took to protect and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies Foreign AND DOMESTIC.
  
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- RLTW
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 11:58pm
  LT
  I love the bitter clinger thing, and understand BHO insult but as I know you will agree I am neither bitter or clinging to anything but my God, family and country as we will win the day.
  
  And yes you are correct that they don’t know who walks among them.
  
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justangry
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:17pm
Raymond J. Lohier is a terrorist.

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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:05pm
  He’s a domestic terrorist that’s for sure.
  
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Daddy Hawg
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:15pm
Then why the H377 isn’t Hillary Clinton in custody for the backdoor meeting with the Taliban!?

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Countrygirl1362
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:14pm
Obama needs to have himself locked up for his support he provides to forces such as al-Qaida or the Taliban.

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- jacobstroubles
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:25pm
  72nd imam/the harbinger..is before you!
  
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momrules
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:14pm
“The government hasn’t put in any evidence. It’s all a* trust us* proceeding.”………..anyone scared yet?

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- barber2
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:33pm
  The current Far Left / Big Brother / Executive Order / Czar Democrats should scare the heck out of any rational, conscious, pro-America , anti-Marxist, American .
  
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Texas Hills Patriot
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:12pm
Wow! What a surprise this appeals judge would back Obama. He was recommended by Schummer to replace Sonia Sotomayor on the Second Circuit Court of Appeals.

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- barber2
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:50pm
  Let’s see, the Far Left controls the media, education, and the courts. Anyone wonder where this will end ? Strangest part of this is that our American Lefties are playing footsie with the Islamic crazies….because they all hate Zionism / Capitalism . Very strange bed fellows. This will not end well…
  
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skippy6
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:10pm
Except for terrorists themselves, is that how it works????

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resme
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:10pm
Appeal till you get a bought judge, Nice…

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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:22pm
  But the system works. We can fix it at the ballot box. This is why this election is so important. /sarc
  
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AvengerK
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:09pm
CNN- January 22, 2009:
Promising to return America to the “moral high ground” in the war on terrorism, President Obama issued three executive orders Thursday to demonstrate a clean break from the Bush administration, including one requiring that the Guantanamo Bay detention facility be closed within a year.

Fast forward to September 18, 2012…”an appeals judge has temporarily allowed enforcement of a law that permits the indefinite detention of people believed to have supported terrorists.”.. like those still housed in Guantanamo Bay.

And Barry wonders why the perpetually outraged muslim world is laughing at him today…..

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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:08pm
We’re all totalitarians now!!!!

I’d sure like to know who appointed the 3 judges that will be hearing the case on 9/28. Wanna bet they were Obama appointees? I wonder if any were part of Obama’s Midnight Appointments. You know how he criticized GWB for and then did it himself while congress and the media looked the other way? Yeah, those. (not sure if judges were in that pile of appointments though)

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- lshepherd910
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 9:09pm
  Do you realize within the next 4 years three more judges will have to be appointed? No matter what you say or do there are still stupid people that will write someone in rather than vote for someone better. How much you bet obama will appoint eric holder and two islamist to the supreme court?
  
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:07pm
“an appeals judge has temporarily allowed enforcement of a law that permits the indefinite detention of people believed to have supported terrorists.”

This law allows Communist obama to detain American citizens without cause – this means you – get ready for obama to try and take the country when he fails to win re-election. Have your family prepared – Be prepared to take our country back!

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pissantno.10
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:06pm
what terroist there are no more of these people. so why do we need the law obama. were you not complaining about bush and wire tapping

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- barber2
  Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:54pm
  Answer : Obama / Democrats LIE.
  
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