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Biden Attacks Romney for Using $250K Figure to Define Middle Class — But Isn’t That the Same Figure Dems Use?

Sep. 18, 2012 9:56am

Vice President Joe Biden during a campaign stop in Burlington, Iowa, criticized Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney for saying he wanted to help middle class Americans in the $250,000 range and below.

Romney’s comments came last week during an on interview on ABC’s “Good Morning America.”

“No one can say my plan is going to raise taxes on middle-income people, because principle number one is (to) keep the burden down on middle-income taxpayers,” Romney told host George Stephanopoulos.

“Is $100,000 middle income?” Stephanopoulos asked.

“No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less,” Romney responded.

Biden thought this was just too much.

“He thinks the middle class is $200,000 to $250,000. Whoa! Whoa!” Biden said much to the crowd’s amusement. “Don’t you all wish you were in that middle class? Whoa!”

“He’s totally out of touch with the reality of what ordinary Americans deal with every day,” Biden continued. “He does not get it. He does not understand.”

But, you see, there’s something we don’t understand. Remember all that stuff about extending the Bush-era tax cuts for the middle class? Do you remember who President Barack Obama said he wanted to extend those middle class tax breaks for?

Oh, that’s right: People in the $250,000 range and below.

“I believe it is time to let the tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, folks like myself, to expire,” the president said in July. “Anyone making over $250,000 a year should go back to the income tax rates we were paying under Bill Clinton.”

“Pass a bill extending the tax cuts for the middle class, I will sign it tomorrow,” he added.

Does Biden really not remember any of this?

And the president isn’t alone when he uses the $250,000 figure when talking about the middle class.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has gone on the record saying he sees no problem with this number and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) in August also said the limit should be $250,000.

But you better believe the Obama campaign is going to use this to further the Romney is out-of-touch narrative.

“As the vice president made clear in his remarks today, Mitt Romney’s proposals are out-of-touch — he would voucherize Medicare, and pay for new tax cuts for the wealthy by hiking them on the middle class,” a campaign aide told the Huffington Post in a statement.

“While President Obama is fighting for middle class families and has cut their taxes every year he’s been in office, nonpartisan studies have made clear that Mitt Romney’s tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires come from only one place — the pockets of middle class families. That’s the clear choice in this election,” the statement added.

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  • TexasIndependant
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:46am

    There is NO SUCH THING AS CLASS TAX PEOPLE! Tax the rich they raise prices. Tax the middle class and middle class businesses raise prices and reduce buying products from the rich. Tax the poor and this reduces them from buying products from small business and the rich. ALL TAXES AFFECT THE PRIVATE SECTOR! IT IS ALL TRANSFER OF WEALTH TO GOVERMENT! Wake up America! Do the Math! ROMNEY AND OBAMA ARE BOTH WRONG!

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on September 18, 2012 at 11:19am

      Joe Biden is a walking talking life size TURD, and has been a parasitic leech on the taxpayers his ENTIRE LIFE……..PERIOD.

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    • quiltgal
      Posted on September 18, 2012 at 11:22am

      If tax breaks for the rich must come out of the “pockets of middle class families,” it’s only because Obama’s government needs too much money, spends too much money, wastes too much money, wants even more money, and refuses to solve its spending problem. If the middle class is getting hurt, the finger should be pointed directly at Obama’s incompetence and greed for power, not citizens who happen to be wealthy, productive, successful, and the main creators of jobs in this country.

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    • turkey13
      Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:01pm

      If Biden knew what Middle Class was he would have given more than $300.00 to charity like he did in 2011. Now if you want to talk about tight- that fits Jo.

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    • ambrosia
      Posted on September 18, 2012 at 5:39pm

      ‘Bazooka Joe’ Biden blows it, again !

      Not only, is he starting to look like Heman Munster,
      he’s starting to sound like him,

      This idiot would be better serving his time,
      packing up his plugs & dockers at the Veep’s house
      on the Naval Observatory.

      It’s gonna’ be so grand & refreshing
      to see the young, energetic, classy Ryan family
      move into that historical house for the next eight years.
      Bye-bye Bidens…..Hellooooo Ryans’ !

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  • Ben__Franklin
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:44am

    Biden just keeps on giving to show just how much of an idiot he is. There are multiple sound bites of Plugs Bite-Me and Oblamo using the 250K figure as the top of the middle class.

    Oblamo and Bite’Me have said more than once that Obama wants to save the middle class. He wont raise taxes on those who make 250K or less. That’s the ceiling these two have been using since 2008.

    The two Buffoons also used the 250K ceiling as part of the Unconstitutional Obamacare.

    Romney should have a fun time throwing this into Plugs face. You would think Oblamo would have put the “Ropes and Chains” on Biden speaking in public years ago.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on September 18, 2012 at 12:09pm

      It’s time for someone to make another video, showing Biden asking the stupid question, then showing Obama AND Biden using the very same figure a multitude of times.

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  • llindsey
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:36am

    $200,000 could easily be the income of two Chicago school teachers, and any number of married public employees. I’m sure they consider themselves part of the 99%.

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    • JRook
      Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:49am

      “I believe it is time to let the tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans” ah beckett you should have gone to class more when you took the logic course. Identifying the wealthiest Americans as the group above $250,000 is not the same thing as saying the individual making $249,000 is middle class. The PRESIDENT utilizes that figure to indicate wealthiest Americans due to their representative percentage of the population. The middle class range as a percentage of Americans would extend way below that.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on September 18, 2012 at 11:31am

      JCROOK, Put something into perspective. If you make $250K a year in New York City, what economic class would you consider yourself to be? Same goes for Boston, LA, Chicago. Now, if you lived in Birmingham, AL you might just be considered wealthy, but not by much. Drive two hours east and that same amount does not go as far in Atlanta. You are as silly as 0bama to pull a number out of the air and say that we are coming after you. If you listen to 0bama’s speeches, his reference that the wealthy needs to pay their fair share. He is not referring to fill the nations money coffers. He says that it is “the right thing to do.” His view of social justice to knock some wealthy off his perceived pedestal.
      The next idiotic thing 0bama says out loud and you and his other minions rally around him for this with no thought in your mind. He screams that the millionaires and billionaires must pay their fair share, then he says anybody making $250K a year needs a tax increase. Are you really that blood thirsty to destroy those who keep this country alive by employing the few they can afford in this economic climate? Okay, keep screaming for bloody murder of that golden goose, then see how long you can make it in your life.

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    • yougottabekidding
      Posted on September 19, 2012 at 5:55am

      JRook
      Can not believe anyone is stupid enough to try and explain that one away!

      As far as your percentages go – Since mr redistribute the wealth got in there is higher percent of welfare, disabled, and poor for starters.
      How is that hope and change working out?

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  • thefnshow
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:35am

    hey vice president slappy squirrel, that’s upper middle class dumbazz…and we’re just using the same number you libs throw out

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    • CatB
      Posted on September 18, 2012 at 11:32am

      Exactly … and that is where many small business owners fall. Those are the people that libs want to put out off business … they work so hard to raise everything on them … taxes and regulations (more taxes).

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      CatB  
  • go2gym
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:34am

    Think about it. Romney has run for President twice now. The media and all the Obamanites have had how many YEARS to find things on him. Should be a treasure trove right? So why isn’t it? Are they all that incompetent, or is this kind of nonsense ALL they have?

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  • hornz
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:31am

    It’s not even the same. One says 200 to 250k is middle class and the other says it’s 250 and below, there’s a big difference there.

    Keep confusing them readers.

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    hornz  
  • matt708
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:31am

    but you forget thta Biden is a moron and everything coming out of his mouth first came out of his arse

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  • Brad Wesselmann
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:30am

    Biden doesn’t get it, doesn’t he know that soon due to the FED completely destroying our currency that $250,000/yr will be the poverty level? They use these arbitrary numbers to describe “fair” and “middle class” but pay no attention to the fact that just 20 years ago those numbers were considerably more affluent. What will be fair tomorrow, or the next day? These people meddle and manipulate things that they either know nothing of or, worse yet, know everything about and are using it to acquire more power. That comes down to one of two possibilities, evil or stupid…or in the case of the current administration, evil AND stupid.

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  • thibx
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:29am

    my boss was telling me yesterday his brother work for the welfare in a northern state he was saying his brother has told him stories of up to the 5th generation of some famlies on welfare. everyone for 5 generations in famalies and they are not permitted to ask or say a thing. hell i would be fired because i would tell these idiots to stop breeding and get a job no more welfare. this is a democrat state. that is my money and your money they give away and i am tired of it. we need mitt in the white house he says he will look into all dept. of the government and cut out the waste and stupidity.

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  • Dismayed Veteran
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:24am

    How can anyone react to the stupid comments that spew for Biden’s mouth. Being a Democrat is a social disease.

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    Dismayed Veteran  
  • Walkabout
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:21am

    In a large metropolitan area like NYC or LA, 250K might be middle class.

    There are COLA adjustment sin the military for where you are stationed. So duh you f/cking t/rds of the media, trolls & Democrats politicians that make hay out of this.

    Most soldiers & their spouses know what COLA is. Federal employees probably have the same things that is nigh 105 or more of the population who know this.

    And yet the Democrats continue to lie & Demonize.

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    Walkabout  
    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:41am

      WALKABOUT, Now that you have mentioned it, can you imagine the financial ruin higher federal taxes will bring to these NYC middle class families earning $250,000?
      I still have to giggle at 0bama though. He gets on his high horse during his class warfare speeches screaming that it is time for millionaires and billionaires to finally pay their fair share. Then he wants the tax increases to hit those making $200,000 to $250,000! And, his crowds smell the blood in the air and hoot and holler for him to take these wealthy people down. It’s not tax money that he necessarily wants, its his version of social justice to hit the wealthy. Killing the goose that lays the golden egg will have dire consequences for these fools and tools.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:56am

      RJJinGadsden
      Marginal Revolutions (dotcom) linked to an article in the Spanish El Pais newspaper. They said what was wrong with Spain was that it was too decentralized & the politicians talk a good game whatever the party, but what they are is an extractive elite. It is like a game of 2 card monty as explained by Mike Savage. When one part is out of power, some of their players are benched in the think tanks, government staff, etc.

      It doesn’t matter what the tax rate is because these cliques will look out for one another & just raise the amount of pay until they are able to buy what they want.

      If Bill Clinton makers $250k a year & pays a 75% marginal tax rate & affords what he wants no sweat. If the top marginal rate is raised to 99.9%, then Clinton’s buds will make sure he earns 350k or more & he still affords what he wants.

      In the meantime Clinton can run around saying RAISE MY TAXES.

      http://elpais.com/elpais/2012/09/12/inenglish/1347449744_053124.html

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:59am

      “Politics has become a way of life that alternates official positions with arbitrarily awarded jobs at corporations, foundations and public agencies, as well as sinecures at private regulated companies that depend on the government to prosper”

      http://elpais.com/elpais/2012/09/12/inenglish/1347449744_053124.html

      And Democrat politicians say “RAISE MY TAXES”.

      Wonder why?

      “Politics has become a way of life that alternates official positions with arbitrarily awarded jobs ” -
      El Pais

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on September 18, 2012 at 11:21am

      WALKABOUT, Thanks not only for your further input, but also the link. Funny, but Clinton did run around saying taxes should be raised for him and others like him back when he was in office. Of course, not until sometime in his second term when he had become a millionaire and not simply the recipient of a single meager salary. 0bama is worse, he will put himself and cronies into a special class who will pay lower taxes. Jeffery Immelt comes to mind right away. Not to mention all of those special interest groups, businesses, and individuals who were cooperative during the fight for 0bamacare, where he waved his magic wand and all was fine in fairy tale land. To many it is nice to know the king so well.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on September 18, 2012 at 11:52am

      CONUS COLA

      http://www.defensetravel.dod.mil/site/conus.cfm

      If you live inn the Midwest & you think making 200k in NYC makes a person rich, then the military should stop paying COLA.

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      Walkabout  
    • BrunMan
      Posted on September 19, 2012 at 2:36pm

      @Walkabout, you bring up an interesting point, which I think goes to the root of our problems. Politicians have become less and less connected to normal people, and to their original responsibility. The original intent of their ‘public service’ was just that – service, not a means to gather power and wealth. They most definitely were not meant to create a system that protects them, allows them to vote for their own raises, gives them benefits that no one else in the country has access to…and the list goes on and on. The advantages they reap from their so-called ‘service’ are the incentive to do anything to stay in office, and stay connected to the honeypot. It is this element that causes corruption and a win-at-any-cost attitude. It’s simple job protection – like a massive union that only they control.

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  • HOOT_OWL
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:17am

    Hypocrites never cease to amaze me. Foot in mouth Joe strikes again.
    More to follow no doubt.

    Another thing. Its very disturbing to know that there is a class of people ,that are below
    welfare recipients.. I’m talking about the people that make just enough to NOT QUALIFY for government help and because they don’t they miss out on all the perks and benefits that are
    reserved for the nanny junkies.
    We use to call them blue collar workers. Now I think people on welfare call them suckers.

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  • quiltgal
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:17am

    Biden is SO confused. For Democrats waivering about voting for Obama again, Biden’s increasingly strange behavior should be a deal-breaker. What if he ever had to assume the Presidency? OMG

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:16am

    One thing for sure when the Muslim Brotherhood takes over the U.S the FBI will become almost non-existent, CIA probably gone, and by large most Federal Employees will lose their jobs – I guess that will be their reward for not standing for the Constitution.

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  • Jim in Houston
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:15am

    Joe Buffoon saying Romney is out of touch? Talk about the pot and the kettle. If Joe was spotted 100 points on his IQ it would still not reach zero.

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  • PA PATRIOT
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:15am

    Another defining Biden moment of clarity and transparency.
    DUH

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:11am

    “While President Obama is fighting for middle class families and has cut their taxes every year he’s been in office,

    Obamacare will tax the hell out of everybody,that isn’t the only reason it’ll be repealed though,it also taxes us for not buying a product.BO wants to end the middle class and given four more years he’ll do it.

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on September 18, 2012 at 11:20am

      Every time Bernanke turns on “the printer” we are all see our taxes increase. Milk in our area has gone up 40% in the past 3 years; steak has increased 50% in our area, gasoline doubled. 8% on a grocery bill of $100 is much less than the tax on $150. Not to mention the increase in production costs that gets built in to the price on the shelves, but never seems to get into cost of living increases as far as wages/salaries are concerned.
      (sarc. on) But that’s not their fault is it…it’s those greedy corporations! (sarc off) The Stealth taxes, we are all paying it.

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  • AxelPhantom
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:11am

    Biden those making $250k classifies as “rich” what would that make those making under $250? If they aren’t rich and they are not poverty stricken, they must be in the middle….

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  • Jenny Lind
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:08am

    Down is up, in is out, What the heck? How do they do this stuff and get away with it? I am so sick of this bunch, can’t wait for November. I strongly suspect obama is loosing voters every day simply because even the stupidest voter is starting to get the hypocracy and lies. They can’t hide any more, guess we have the internet and “tweeting” fot that.

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  • floridareader
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:08am

    Her comes Mr. Smart again.

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  • beenaroundyaknow
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:07am

    Biden isn’t even a useful idiot anymore, he’s just a plain idiot. He’s still looking for Obama’s 51st thru 57th states to go pollute with his vile arguments.

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    • thibx
      Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:42am

      57 in oboma’s mind is important its the number of muslim countries he has to appease.

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:06am

    We have a Marxist POS fraud president and a drunken fool for VP,this election should be a landslide victory for real Americans.

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  • biohazard23
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:04am

    Joe, just go with nice men in the white coats. No one’s going to hurt you. Promise. This is for your own good.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:03am

    Clint Eastwood: “Of course we all know Biden is the intellect of the Democratic Party… Just kind of a grin with a body behind it.”

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  • grimmster
    Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:02am

    Poor Joe,his brain tumor must be growing, his remarks get dumber every day……..

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