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Those who take a less literal approach to the Bible would dismiss Noah’s Ark as a mere fable. However, there are numerous individuals and groups who have devoted themselves to finding the massive vessel that purportedly carried Noah, his family members and a subset of the world’s animals to safety during a global flood thousands of years ago.
There’s a new book coming out in October by Danish journalist and author Henri Nissen that claims to showcase evidence that Noah’s Ark exists and that the Bible is a historically-accurate literary work.
While scientists have not definitively concluded that there is any accuracy to the Biblical story, the vessel, based on the holy book’s account, is said to have landed in the Mount Ararat region in what is now Turkey. The Christian Post caught up with Nissen to speak about “Noah’s Ark: Ancient Accounts and New Discoveries,” which will be released on October 31.
“I didn’t write about the ark in order to convince people that God exists or that the Bible speaks the truth. I just couldn’t stop investigating and writing about this great discovery,” the author wrote in an e-mail to the Post.
Nissen has been exploring the region since 1999, writing numerous books and articles and producing other related media. In his new book, he includes numerous elements of historical significance — tablets, biblical and non-biblical accounts of the ark and the flood and more. In the end, the public is left, based on the evidence, to decide whether the event is based on fact or fiction.
“I started up in 1999 investigating the so-called ‘boat shaped object.’ First I thought this might actually be the ark, but many questions couldn’t be answered. Then the Chinese team came up with their great find, and it is so amazing and much more convincing. Here we have actual wood and rooms.”
A look inside the book (Photo Credit: Scandinavia Publishing House)
The team he references purportedly found seven spaces with, doors, hooks, rope and other elements during a Chinese-Kurdish expedition in 2010 (you can read about that exploration here). The evidence purportedly dates back 5,000 years and is found on the Ararat mountain. Genesis 8:4 reads, “and on the seventeenth day of the seventh month the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat,” thus seemingly corroborating this story.
Nissen is more than aware of the push-back he’s likely to get, as he blames much of it on a media that are unfriendly to individuals and archeological tenets that call evolution into question. Those who oppose the facts, he claims, are burying important data.
“It really seems like not only the biblical flood but a lot of the ancient history has been forgotten or lost on purpose, because it doesn’t fit with the doubtful theories of evolution,” Nissen told the Post. “I hope somebody else will help to dig deeper and find ‘forbidden’ archaeology and hidden history and tell it to the world. There is a big task waiting.”
If the 2010 discovery is legitimate, Nissen said it would be noteworthy. After all, it would indicate that there was a great flood, thus corroborating the Biblical account of events. But the author has no doubt that Noah built an ark and that it brought him to safety, as Nissen also said that the holy book is “historically trustworthy.”
“Still it will be up to each person to decide if the rediscovery of the ark should mean also a rethinking of their beliefs,” Nissen continued. “Some people seem to prefer believing in what is convenient.”
These days, Noah’s Ark is all the rage. Last month, we told you about Donna D’Errico, the former Playboy Playmate and “Baywatch star” who ventured overseas in an effort to find the ship. We’ll have to wait and see what fascinating details Nissen’s book holds.
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(H/T: The Christian Post)
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Favored93
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:03pm@phillyatheist
Yours is an ignorant and angry statement. God could have ended the human race and started over but it was His grace and mercy that stayed His hand. Because God loved you and us you are alive today to make foolish statements.
In your arrogance you think that you can pass judgment on God over something that you were not alive to witness so how can you claim innocence for those you have never known?!?!
Do not worry about people that are long dead or those who are alive now but worry about yourself and your own salvation. Even if God is the bully you say He is I promise He is bigger then you are and without Jesus you don’t have enough lunch money to satisfy Him.
Worry about yourself and let God worry about others.
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essay
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:01pmWhat’s it to you? If you don’t believe, don’t believe, but leave the rest of us alone.
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helluvagoodgod
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:00pmYou dont deserve to breathe Gods air let alone dwell on His beautiful earth.
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saneromeo
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:57pmIt should be an interesting read, I love it when the Old Testament is proven valid.
http://saneromeo.wordpress.com/
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22AUTOMATIC
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:53pmI’ve collected several volumes of books and films that list in detail all of the evidence that the Bible is 100% historically accurate. To date not a single fact listed in the Bible has ever been disproven. As time continues on only more and more discoveries are made backing up the Bible’s accounts. That’s what confuses me at times, that almost 8% of the U.S population is still agnostic or atheist. With information at the touch of a button all that it takes is a few weeks of deep research to discover all of the proof that there is a God. Outside of the U.S Christianity is growing at a rate of 8% which is the fastest growing religion in the world. Though I realize there is heavy u.s media marketing, big money and campaigning against the existence of God so that 7-8% does seem plausible I suppose.
Below is an excellent educational film on the existence of Noah’s Ark (science is finally catching up with the Bible). Also, I highly suggest watching the doc “The Real Face of Jesus” that the History Channel did in 2010 – It proves Jesus’ resurrection through science (really cool)
http://www.itbn.org/index/detail/lib/Networks/sublib/TBN/ec/43aWYzMzoGzUW0aaWY61MOTHcPVLsqIv
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Sol Invictus
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 5:09pmI’ve collected dozens of volumes of books and films that list in detail all of the evidence that the Bible is no more than 10% historically accurate. To date not a single fact listed in the Bible has ever been proven. As time goes on more and more discoveries are made casting doubt on the Bible’s accounts. That’s what confuses me at times, that only 48% of the U.S population is agnostic or atheist. With information at the touch of a button all that it takes is a few hours of research to discover there is no way to proove that there is a God. Outside of the U.S Christianity is falling in popularity. Though I realize there is heavy u.s media marketing, big money and campaigning for the existence of God.
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wvernon1981
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 5:12pm22Automatic,
I’m curious if you have looked for information that contradicted your understanding of things?
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EndTheGOPTEA
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:12pmWow, 22 You need to get to a doctor or another Library…lol.. You guys are INSANE!
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22AUTOMATIC
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:15pmBelow are suggestions of excellent places to start your research. Lee presents proof of intelligent design very well and in an entertaining way. The others are must read books that put the “theory” of evolution to rest once and for all by specifically taking each argument and dissecting each bit of information presented by those who still believe in evolution. If you are serious about digging down and finding the truth about creation, and are willing to put the time an effort into it, they make an excellent launching point. That will get you started but, after that, it’s up to you.
http://www.myspace.com/video/vid/33826735
Evolution: A Theory in Crisis (Michael Denton), Darwin on trial (Phillip Johnson), The Design Inference (William Dembski), Of Pandas and People, Darwin’s Black Box (Behe), For The Glory of God (Stark).
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Cesium
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 9:51pm@22 Finding evidence of biblical stories does not remotely prove god exists or that something supernatural occurred. It is just evidence of geological events what may have occurred during earlier or premesopotamian civilizations. The Sumerians also report a great flood and Ark ages before the Jews. I don’t care if you find the whole freaking boat buried in those mountains and the skeletons of a bunch of animals inside! The same thing happened in the western hemisphere over 10,000 years ago. http://www.glaciallakemissoula.org/ The oldest civilization was also found in Turkey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe 10,000 years ago.. Did big floods happen during early human civiliations? If you study a number of various pre-judaic religions and the fact there is evidence of floods happening on earth at the time from glacial sources the answer is likely yes! Proves nothing about god being real.
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4truth2all
Posted on September 19, 2012 at 7:02amYo Sol;
There are any number of historical evidences stated in scripture that men said did not exist and were found in archeological digs CONFIRMING the truth of scripture.
If it get’s cold this winter … use the books!
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Xiccarph
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:41pmI wonder if Nissen did any collaboration with Jonathan Gray who also does a lot of “forbidden archeology” and Biblical archeology stuff, including Noah’s Ark and the Ark of the Covenant.
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P8riot
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 4:22pmhere’s another story linked on Drudge today that you would probably find interesting regarding another “forbidden archaeology” discovery:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/us/historian-says-piece-of-papyrus-refers-to-jesus-wife.html?_r=1
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MrBigBillyB
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 5:53pm@P8RIOT
Of course it will be the normal reactions from both sides. Those who are looking to refute Biblical texts will use this to claim with certainty that the Bible is absolutely false. Those who hold to the Biblical texts will automatically dismiss it as bogus. And they will both argue about it fervently.
The only thing I will say about it is that it definitely says that someone named Jesus claims a wife. And that some female could be a diciple (which of course is true because a diciple is a follower of Jesus,) not necessarily an Apostle.
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P8riot
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:20pm@MRBIGBILLYB
Well said. I personally believe in the Bible, but am open to the issue of Christ having been married (simply because the Bible is silent to the issue).
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Verceofreason
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:36pmHave they found Sodom and Give-me-more-a?
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phillyatheist
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:40pmNoah’s Ark is a great Atheist maker. it was one of the first clues that this book they had me reading was full of make believe.
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helluvagoodgod
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:13pmYou are such a little man. You think your cool but you will leave this earth one day as naked as you came with no hope. You are a failure.
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Kaoscontrol
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:14pmThe bible is God’s love letter to believers. If you don’t get it PHILLYATHEIST… then that’s what you get for reading someone else’s mail.
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NSDQ
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:14pmAnd so then the flea does not believe in dog
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SimpleTruths
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 4:02pm@KAOSCONTROL
For one thing, there is no biblical scholar who would say that ‘God” wrote the bible. Many authors and many editors contributed to the old testament – various scholars have theories of who and how many but all agree it wasn’t authored by any one individual. The New Testament clearly has many authors and many ‘books’ left out. You might claim “God” was an inspiration for the Bible but he didn’t sit down and write it.
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FundamentalistChristian
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 4:49pm@Philly
That’s because your faith is in Scientism. Elite Scientists tell you what to believe and you trust them without doing any of our own objective research. You just say, OK, if that’s what you say it than I’ll believe it. Of course in the same breath you accuse Christians of the same thing. You couldn’t tell me what version of evolutionary science you believe in and I’m sure you haven’t the slightest idea or even an educated opinion on the subject of origins besides the WAG of a primordial soup and random chance. Arrogance and ignorance is bliss I guess. Search for truth and you will find it. Truth does exixt!
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wvernon1981
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 5:14pmSee Philly,
You gotta be on the in to understand the Bible. It ain’t gonna make sense unless you interpret it right and you’ll only get it right if you put on the lens of the Holy Spirit. God meant it that way to confound unbelievers.
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phillyatheist
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 5:54pmFUNDAMENTAL – you have no idea what kind of research i’ve done. you know what i like? film. watching science programs gives you an understanding and appreciation for the scientific method, and it offers evidence that is visual. and it’s pretty
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Pontiac
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 5:59pm@helluvagoodgod
My, aren’t you the epitome of a good christian.
@FundamentalistChristian
[Elite Scientists tell you what to believe and you trust them without doing any of our own objective research.]
Yeah not anything like those elite clergy that tell you what to believe and condemn any objective research. Science doesn’t tell me how to live my life. Zealots do. Science tells us what it has discovered thus far, it does not tell us what to believe.
@wvernon1981
[you’ll only get it right if you put on the lens of the Holy Spirit.]
The holy spirit is nothing more than an endorphin release for junkies.
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Verceofreason
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:02pmAll that in breeding would definitely produce defective off spring.
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scuba13
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:21pmVerce considering your sister is also your mother, you should know all about inbreeding.
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wvernon1981
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:47pmPontiac, thanks.
I’m an ex-christian atheist =)
Poe’s law: Parody of fundamentalists is indistinguishable from fundamentalism.
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pdw
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:16pmSo now you have gone back a couple thousand years and proven the Noah’s Ark is a fake or that now you know there is no God? Strange logic, I know for a fact that we are not the greatest beings in the universe, if we were the universe would fall apart. I also know from my own experience there not only is a being much greater than I but there is something after death and it is much more peaceful than living here on this earth. People have known for centuries there is a communication with a higher power be what ever you want to call it, etc. Great men have found answers to problems in their dreams or thoughts while awake that no one living had a answer. And in some cases more than one person received an answer and were able to share and develop the process together to complete a project. If that cannot tell you anything then I feel sorry for those who think like you.
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Favored93
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 11:39pm@Pontiac
WOW!!!! Your ignorance and arrogance is truly astounding! You don’t know who you are speaking about when you speak about the Holy Spirit of God… Be careful these are truly life and death matters.
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4truth2all
Posted on September 19, 2012 at 7:18amYo Pontiac:
My, aren’t you the epitome of a good sinner. Everything you say will be used against you in a court of law.
Your science does indeed tell you how to live and your words prove it.
How would you know what the Holy Spirit IS ? … that’s like you describing what fish tastes like having never tasted it … that would be … ah, let’s see … not very smart … to be kind. But then, keep living your life that way your science says! You kid yourself … but I keep hoping
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Cajun Maverick
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:02pmDoes anyone need an ark? I Noah guy.
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jzs
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:49pmIsn’t killing every creature on Earth except those in the arc a little drastic? Wouldn’t a plague of locusts served just as well?
Anyway, the next time the Earth is destroyed it will be by fire. Glad there are no signs of that anytime soon. Oh wait…
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Kaoscontrol
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:11pmI Noah guy…corny, but funny!
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 4:32pmCajun………….LOL…good one….a little vauderville…but still good…
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:24pm@JZS
Ironic that the most holiest guy and his family, consisted of a drunk who cursed the son who walked in on him naked while passed out by boozing.
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GBs_Magic_skivies
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:00pmIs it a picture book?
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Verceofreason
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:03pmThe author works for a christian org, SURPRISE!
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schroeder123
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:57pmThere is always an arch between to electrodes.
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OniKaze
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:10pmThats ARC, not Arch…. St. Louis has an Arch…. Electricity has “Arc’s”…
Not a slam, just an FYI….
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s.n.
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:55pmWhile scientists have not definitively concluded that there is any accuracy to the Biblical story……uhhh…why do I need a scientist to tell me anything. The Bible says it….I believe it. Nuff said
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DoseofReality
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:35pmso your fine with only reading one book your entire life? Thats all you need? sound like a muslim to me….
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gunner1434
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:42pmDont feed the troll
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fancynancy
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:46pmMe too!! Don’t be disheartened by meanie responders. They just don’t know what they don’t know and look for people to snark at.
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grampdad
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:50pmWith 7 years of college and an engineering background my backward reasoning insists that for there to be precise and infinite order in a system’s design then there must have been a designer. I find it amazing when “scientists” who understand endropy and the second LAW of thermodynamics will then demand that the process of evolution has made for more and better species. The circular reasoning of the geologists say because the palentologists say the rock is x years old dosen’t ring as true scientific reasoning to my uneducated mind.
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Favored93
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:54pmWhile I agree with what you said I also disagree at the same time….
We do not have a “blind faith” Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the EVIDENCE of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders obtained a good testimony. (NKJV)
There is evidence behind our faith. I do not believe God just because I am told I should…. do you?
I believe the Bible because I have studied it and tested it and found it to be trustworthy and accurate.
There are over 300 old testament prophecies about Jesus most of them he fulfilled at his birth and death and not ONE was left undone! For this to have happened by chance is a statistical impossibility. Jesus and the Bible are who and what they say they are… THE ONLY INFALLIBLE WORD OF THE LIVING GOD. The EVIDENCE is there and the evidence is why believe.
We would be fools to follow a “holy book” that was clearly not God breathed… God does not want blind followers He wants us to test Him so that he can show up and show off!
I beg all of you here to do just that…. TEST IT OUT DIG DEEP AND FIND GOD! He wants to be found by you! :)
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Rillobymorning
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:17pmAlways struck me as funny that they don’t have enough faith to believe in a loving God, but they seem to find enough faith to believe their relatives are apes, and that the entire world…stars, sea, land and everything in it was created from “a big boom”.
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encinom
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 4:30pmRillobymorning
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:17pm
Always struck me as funny that they don’t have enough faith to believe in a loving God, but they seem to find enough faith to believe their relatives are apes, and that the entire world…stars, sea, land and everything in it was created from “a big boom”.
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Not faith science and facts proves evolution (Newton’s 2nd law doesn’t disprove it).
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encinom
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 4:31pmThis shows more a misconception about thermodynamics than about evolution. The second law of thermodynamics says, “No process is possible in which the sole result is the transfer of energy from a cooler to a hotter body.” [Atkins, 1984, The Second Law, pg. 25] Now you may be scratching your head wondering what this has to do with evolution. The confusion arises when the 2nd law is phrased in another equivalent way, “The entropy of a closed system cannot decrease.” Entropy is an indication of unusable energy and often (but not always!) corresponds to intuitive notions of disorder or randomness. Creationists thus misinterpret the 2nd law to say that things invariably progress from order to disorder.
However, they neglect the fact that life is not a closed system. The sun provides more than enough energy to drive things. If a mature tomato plant can have more usable energy than the seed it grew from, why should anyone expect that the next generation of tomatoes can’t have more usable energy still? Creationists sometimes try to get around this by claiming that the information carried by living things lets them create order. However, not only is life irrelevant to the 2nd law, but order from disorder is common in nonliving systems, too. Snowflakes, sand dunes, tornadoes, stalactites, graded river beds, and lightning are just a few examples of order coming from disorder in nature; none require an intelligent program to achieve that order.
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Alina.D
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 5:21pmDid anyone doubt the existence of wind? No. The moment they felt it, they knew it existed. Same thing with God for me.
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Fatheroftwo
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:04pmEncinom:
“Snowflakes, sand dunes, tornadoes, stalactites, graded river beds, and lightning are just a few examples of order coming from disorder in nature; none require an intelligent program to achieve that order.”
And isn’t it awesome that all this order coming from disorder shows the hand of GOD at work!!!
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pdw
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:05pmFunny how people love to take words out context and try to say that all anyone ever does is read the Bible. Just maybe you need to read the Bible before you try to slander anyone. Even the scriptures talk about evolving within each species. Even BYU has studies in evolution so now they know which comes first the chicken or the egg just using DNA. Funny thing about theory is that is what it is THEORY.
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BuzzardSays
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:16pmChristians,
Do not waste your time with throwing the truth of Jesus before the atheist swine. They are incapable of knowing truth until Jesus Himself addresses them. I pray for their poor souls that they accept Christ before their eyewitness audience with the King of Kings. It really is a tragedy for every man or woman who set their back to God and stand in permanent defiance. There is a reason for wailing and gnashing of teeth…when every soul heading for hell realizes the number of times Jesus attempted to save them and they slapped His hand away.
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4truth2all
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 7:56amYo Encinom:
How does a tornado bring order ???
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Pontiac
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:35pmAlina.D, the only thing you felt was a endorphin release. Same thing every dope in any given religion/cult would feel. Much like a liberal voter, basing everything on feelings.
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Suzanne Winter
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:53pmThe History Channel did a series called “Lost Science of the Bible” which, as Henri Nissen’s book explains, the “unexplainable” things the Bible tells about were actually quite explainable, when science enters into the picture.
It was fascinating.
Here’s the link to the History Channel’s DVD of the series:
http://shop.history.com/lost-science-of-the-bible/detail.php?p=109641
which contains this blurb: “Might the stories of the Bible have their basis in ancient scientific fact? How big was the giant Goliath, and what was the tech of the sling that brought him down? We’ll demonstrate that the tower of Babel could have been as tall as two miles in height. Create fire from water as Elijah may have done. And in a never before attempted investigation, watch as archeologists fully levitate a replica of the Ark of the Covenant.”
YouTube Video (42:46) Link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OxRiuOWeIQ
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Achilles84
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:15pmI’ve seen a few episodes, and while some of it is interesting, it really bothers me when they try to explain what the bible claims as a miracle, as just some slight of hand or natural phenom.
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Wool-Free Vision
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:42pmI believe that, in the end, when the veil of mortality is lifted and we are exposed to all of our human folly, many will be shocked to learn that science is nothing but a human word for God’s work.
What I mean is that science actually goes hand-in-hand with The Holy Bible. Evolution is real, and The Bible is true. The thing that drives a wedge between them is a failure, on both sides of the issue, to recognize that space-time, and therefore time itself, is God’s creation – meaning, of course, that God is timeless. He is the Alpha and the Omega. God is at the beginning, the end, and at all points in between.
Calendars are a construct of man, and therefore completely fallible. The Bible employs vague language and metaphor because we humans, in our limited mental capacity, are only meant to understand and apply The Bible’s teachings as they pertain to us in the present. Through the passage of time, certain truths in God’s Word become evident, while other truths no longer apply in the ways we once believed they did. One of these truths is the language employed in the telling of the Creation. The seven days is no myth, for God is timeless and He is all-powerful, and there was no human-constructed calendar or timepiece clocking God’s work.
I believe that “evolution” is just another human word to describe God’s miracle of Creation. These concepts are still impossible for many humans to grasp. But nothing is impossible to God.
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:44pmIt’s been on http://www.arkdiscovery.com for a long time.
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Xiccarph
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:46pmMost legends and mythology have some actual occurrence as a basis. How the people of the time interpreted it within their cultural/scientific milieu and embellished it over the generations are what we read or hear today as myths or legends.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:50pmThe rain in Spain falls mainly in the plains.
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SUNTZU
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:40pmThe ants in france can be found
in Criss Matthews pants
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DIR
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 7:48pm@SUNTZU: “The ants in france can be found in Criss Matthews pants ..”
You may be onto something. That tingling sensation he feels going up and down his leg. Either that or he looses control and wets himself everytime he sees Barry. The sensation going up his leg would be when he does cartwheels in his fit of exhilaration.
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needmoinfo
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:46pmThey found Troy. Anything is possible. There is plenty to find under the sea and under the deserts too. They think they just found Richard III in England. If so that could clarify what deformities he really had. They found the two murdered princes. They think there is a record room under the sphinx’s paw and I wish they would dig for it. Who doesn’t want to find buried treasure? What was written about may be something. There must be plenty to be found that wasn’t written about too.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:54pmIt does say [in those day] graves will be opened.
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desertspeaks
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:05pmIn September 1960, 27 year-old Ron Wyatt, along with thousands of other people, read the following article in Life Magazine about a strange boat-shaped formation in the mountains of Ararat:
THAT’S 1960 folks, this book is nothing but rehashed info that’s been out there for 50 years
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WhiteFang
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:44pmNoah’s Ark was not a boat!
It was an ark, and ark’s were and still is a chest or oblong box. Picture a long structure
in the shape of a square cornered box without a boat bow or stern.
The Ark did not need to traverse the sea, all it had to do was float.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:31pmThe itsy-bitsy spider climbed up the water spout
Down came the rain and washed the spider out
Out came the sun and dried up all the rain
The itsy-bitsy spider climbed up the spout again
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DoGooder
Posted on September 19, 2012 at 12:08amYour an idiot. Pull up your boxers and go upstairs, your mommy has supper (tofu) ready.
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hi
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:28pmMIT graduate Walt Brown, PhD has some interesting articles in his book about the ark and various sightings. It really brings your faith to a higher level when you research the science that backs up the Bible.
Here is one of the pages:
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/EarthSciences10.html
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wvernon1981
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:52pmYou ought to double check the science in that article.
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Danimal98367
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:18pmIs this ark able to hold 5,000,000 species of animal?
Why is there no geological record of a global flood? Global events leave global evidence and there would be a dividing line 5,000 years ago in the geological record.
How did a pair of polar bears get to the Middle East and back home? How did they survive the temperature shift?
How did koalas get there from Australia and back? Did they bring a forest of eucalyptus trees with them to munch on?
Why did the marsupials only live in Australia before AND after this flood? Why didn’t they finally move to better ensure survival of their species?
Why isn’t there genetic bottlenecking in all species as would have happened if there was a mass wipe-out of all but one mating pair 5,000 years ago? You can see it in leopards who nearly went extinct some time ago and bounced back. In humans, tissue implants are rejected if you don’t account for genetic variance. Not in leopards. They are from such a small ancestrial gene pool that nearly all leopards are eligible itssue donors to all others. In a few tens of thousand years more that won’t be true anymore. If humans have been reduced to one family (and all other animals to 1 mating pair) genetic bottlenecking would be the rule.
Shall I go on discrediting the flood?
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Favored93
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:56pm@Danimal98367
Your statements do NOT discredit anything except the premise of your logic which is there was no flood and that the animals could not have gotten were they are today had it occurred.
First there was not ONLY one mating pair of people. Read the Biblical account of the flood again then make your statements lol if you can.
There is GLOBAL evidence of the flood which is why they came up with the THEORY of the ice age. Ice and liquid water have the same effect on land … over time.
What you are missing is the totality of evidence regarding the Bible as a whole. Because of the sheer volume of evidence that backs up the history and science of the Bible when you run into something that you don’t understand taking it on faith BASED on the fact that the rest of the book is proven true is not a stretch but is a matter of logical reasoning based on facts. If you and I have years of relationship and you have always been honest with me would I call you a liar if you said something I did not understand?
That is what FAITH in the Bible is … it is based on a provable history and personal evidence that leads us to know that those things we don’t understand are true because we know the author.
Get to know the author and many of your questions will no longer be questions. I wish I had more time and room to write … read a book called “The New Evidence That Demands A Verdict” By Josh McDowell it will help you.
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hi
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 4:57pmDanimal
All of your questions are easily answered in Walt Brown’s book Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood.
If there were a global flood, we would see millions of dead animals buried in rock layers laid down by water all over the earth. That’s exactly what we see.
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Danimal98367
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 5:45pm@HI – If your posit were right, they would all be in the same rock layer not many . . . and god supposedly saved all the types of critters yet the fossil record is chalk full of extinct animals.
@Favored93 – I clearly said one family of people (1 mating pair of the animals). Second, IF the ice age is your claim of actually the flood, the Bible still isn’t historically accurate because it is off in timeline. More to the point, an Ice Age (the geological record has several) isn’t the same impact on geology as a short-term flood. We know this by looking at the ancient geology of ice ages and glacial movements compared to known (even observed) floods. Your hypothesis is crap. An ice age is a long timeframe (we’re even in one right now by some definitions). Calling flood evidence and glacial movement evidence the same is so sad.
I’m not finding a whole lot of “truth” in the Bible to base faith on for the parts science explains away. Something you say should be overwhelming. There isn’t even evidence of the freakin’ Exodus! There are no secular references to a Jesus until Josepfus decades later – not that this would make him god anyway. There is no evidence of 40 years of wandering in the desert or of Moses who was supposedly a prince in Egypt. There is no evidence to hand your hat on. A place existing doesn’t prove stories told about it. A person existing doesn’t make the a prophet too or a god. Show me this perponderance of evidence. Without it, it is made up bunk
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Danimal98367
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:02pm@Favored93 – Also, to address your credibility of the source claim a little further, your agrument is garbage. If you and I were friends and you knew me to be reliable then I came to you and said I was just in China on business and saw a real dragon there flying around and it lives in a cave with a pile of treasure. It breathes fire and everything! You would not beleive me. You would think I was joking or if not, require evidence that you can independently verify. Fantastical claims require fantastical evidence. And, by the way, there is global evidence of dragons – drawings and stories in many cultures that didn’t interact! Bum-bum-bum!!! Yet they are fiction.
How credible would your “ice age is the flood evidence” hold up? On top of what I already spelled out, you really meant a glacial period and that ended 10,000 years ago while the flood myth is dated 5,000 years ago. So there again it is crap. And the glaciers didn’t cover the whole earth, so NOT GLOBAL. And it is a 30,000 year demonstrable progression of glaciers, not 40 days plus drying time. And where did all this rain drain away to?
I also see you ran away from the genetic bottlenecking discussion. You should.
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Randyco02
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 9:44pmWOW Danimal demolished you guys! When you write out in detail what creationists have to believe, it is soo ridiculous that any reasonably thinking person will instantly discount that argument.
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Cesium
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 11:08pmFinding evidence of biblical stories does not remotely prove god exists or that something supernatural occurred. It is just evidence of geological events what may have occurred during earlier or premesopotamian civilizations. The Sumerians also report a great flood and Ark ages before the Jews. I don’t care if you find the whole freaking boat buried in those mountains and the skeletons of a bunch of animals inside! The same thing happened in the western hemisphere over 10,000 years ago. http://www.glaciallakemissoula.org/ The oldest civilization was also found in Turkey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe Did big floods happen during early human civiliations? if you study a number of various pre-judaic religions the answer is likely yes! Proves nothing about god being real.
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Favored93
Posted on September 19, 2012 at 12:09am@Danimal98367
First of all just because you say so does not make a thing true…ice and liquid water DO have the same effect on land over time… Second there is to much in your post to address properly but I guess I can give you the readers digest version of the proofs….
I can’t help but laugh at your assertion that there is no evidence that Moses existed that is a truly ignorant assertion.
The best possible proof of the authorship and accuracy of the ENTIRE Bible is prophecy. Only God could know the future and as a result the number one piece of IRREFUTABLE evidence is fulfilled Biblical prophesy.
There are OVER 300 Old Testament prophecies written about Jesus the last one was written 400 years before he was born and He fulfilled them ALL. For this to have been done by chance is a statistical impossibility. Most of the 300 were about His death and Birth… can u choose the manor of your death or what your executioners would do with your clothes or what about the political climate at the time of your birth?
What about Israel? There has NEVER been a nation that has been destroyed and scattered to the four corners of the earth as they have been … 2k years btw… and retained their language,national identity and religion. Israel is the single largest proof that the Bible is what it says it is and that God is who He says He is…. I do not have space to go further with you here but you get my point. If you can’t see this is true then you just can’t or won’t see..
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Favored93
Posted on September 19, 2012 at 12:25am@Danimal98367
I did not run away from your bottle necking argument I just simply do not know much about genetics and so will not speak out of ignorance…
I will also not say that I have no questions about the flood or other matters found in the Bible. I will say this with absolute certainty …. there is more then enough evidence to convince me that the Bible is reliable and accurate.
Also Josephus is not the ONLY extra biblical evidence that Jesus existed. Even the Jewish scribes confirm that he was there they just claim he was a heretic. There is more evidence that Jesus was a man of history then there is that you or I exist now. You are clearly speaking out of ignorance.
You seem to like to spout things out that you yourself have not studied but rely on the word of people whose agenda is clearly anti-God.
The issue of God Jesus His ONLY son and the Bible are to important and need to be studied out deeply because this is truly life and death.
This is just not the best place to give this the attention it deserves.
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Favored93
Posted on September 19, 2012 at 12:43am@Danimal98367
I have also heard the argument that the disciples faked the resurrection of Jesus… all I will say about that one is that ALL of them save one and he died in exile were BRUTALLY killed for their testimony about a man they knew was still dead?!?! Would they not have been crazy men? Who would allow themselves to be killed as they were for what they KNEW was a lie?!?!?!
Honestly I do not much care if you believe the Bible or not…your faith is your own and you will live or die by it. I would ask however that you all study this thing out carefully because life is shorter then you think and eternity is longer then you think….and heaven or hell is at your door and your choices now will decide forever for you.
Be careful in your study…….
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girlnurse
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:27pmFunny, I already have a book that tells me Noahs ark is real!
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munacra
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:08pmI wish we had THUMBS UP or LIKE options here in the comment section… GIRLNURSE you’d get a big LIKE or THUMBS UP on that one!!
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QuincySmith
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:36pmA second ‘thumbs up’ here.
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phillyatheist
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:39pmit also said that snakes can talk. i’d advise you to take it with a grain of salt but i know that’s not possible.
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Favored93
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:28pm@phillyatheist
It also said that God made a donkey talk … oh wait God is God and can do as He pleases … is it a stretch that the ONLY all powerful God can do things that you think is not possible?
Or is it that you are hopeless and what to make as many people as you can as hopeless and miserable as you are!?!?! So you get on here and make fun of things and people that shine a light on your future and present misery. What a sad life you must have … I pity you and pray for your salvation.
I can imagine what a powerful witness you can be if you were to preach the good news of God with the same fire you are attacking Him with now!
Former atheists know how to share God better then life long Christians :)
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memyselfandi
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 4:50pmTo Philly…
When I was 13 I was running and I fell on a jagged piece of metal and it split my side open. My Christian mother prayed and ask God for help and Within 5 minutes the wound was closed up and after a total of 20 minutes it was almost completely gone. I know this is medically and scientifically impossible but it happened to me. I don’t understand how He did it or why God choose to heal me but He did and 36 years later I still bear a very large scar on my side. Because of that event in my life, I have no choice but to believe that the whole thing is true including the flood and His ability to cause a snake or a donkey to speak.
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Verceofreason
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:10pmMAD magazine?
I like the way those old Genesis dudes INTERPRETED god’s words
After you take a wife, you can STILL schtupp her sister AND
all the handservants you like.
You can even start another family with a handservant!
Oh, and on the road, a prostitutes are no sin.
A man needs his poon. It’s “god’s” will.
I ca just picture those bible write dudes HI-FIVING EACH OTHER every 5 minutes
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Pontiac
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 8:01pm[ My Christian mother prayed and ask God for help and Within 5 minutes the wound was closed up and after a total of 20 minutes it was almost completely gone]
This is completely anecdotal if not downright trollish.
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Cesium
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 11:06pm@memyselfandI Here’s the thing… Until that kind of thing happens to me, I have no reason to believe you…You’re either deluded or nuts. If god thinks you’re more special and should get a little boo boo healed that opposed to a kid with a bullet in his knee cap in the middle of Africa with no hospital ,then it doesn’t sound like the kind of god I can have respect for. Are you going save us all now? you must be a profit for god to fix your cut instead of him preventing daily accidents and crimes that mangle people whose families pray so hard for their wounds to heal quickly too… like a CGI movie in your case. such BS.
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Favored93
Posted on September 19, 2012 at 10:16am@Cesium
Sickness and injury are part of being human. Those things are no fun but that is what happens as a result of sin and having a Devil loose.
You do not know what is going on in the lives of others or what God will do in the life of that kid in Africa all you have to worry about is yourself and your own salvation. Let God deal with the rest of the world because trust me you can’t.
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gunner1434
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:26pmWell…. if it doesnt fit with evolution, it can not be accurate, so throw it away. SMH
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phillyatheist
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:51pmit simply doesn’t fit with reality. millions of species being housed and fed on the same boat, then redistributed throughout the world? use your noggin’!
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Favored93
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:33pm@phillyatheist
I find it funny that you are telling anyone here to “use your nogg’n” and yet you have not inelegantly answered any of my posts… nor another’s for that matter…
Are you able to have rational thoughts or is all you are capable of is one liner digs?
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phillyatheist
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 5:39pmFAVORED – sorry, i had to run out. i’ll do my best to respond. sometimes i really like the one liner digs though. this is such a silly topic though i feel stupid trying to get deep about it.
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Verceofreason
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:20pmI wish this god put elephants in Brooklyn!
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:22pmIf all the fountains of the deep getting broken up was a massive population boom, then why would the Ark be a boat?
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Atrain1966
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:32pmDid you take your meds today?
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Granny58
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:40pmI don’t understand what you mean.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:40pmAtrain1966,
Sure, all the idiotic things you say is food for me in the Ark.
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WhiteFang
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:45pmA boat is not an ark.
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Atrain1966
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:01pmWaters:
Why don’t you just speak clearly about what you mean then? The Ark is symbolic of God’s savation
but it was a literal wodden Ark built by Noah as well.
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WhiteFang
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:27pmA comment about watersrpeople:
By disconnecting his name, waters-r-people, is probably taken from the book of Revelation. Chapter 8:8-9 speaks in symbolic language the sea, “waters”, describing peoples.
By talking in his cryptic style, he wants to sound like a very wise man.
We are “grasshoppers”.
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48Straights
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:21pmA Chinese general may have just declared war on Japan, the middle east is on fire, we have just had the largest terror attack since 911 on 911, Obama is winning the election and The Blaze reports this trash?
Distract, distract, distract.
Glenn Beck should be ashamed of what this rag has become!
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hi
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:29pmOur salvation is more important than any of that and is especially important because of all of that!
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48Straights
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:45pmAnd not becoming slaves to the government is important too. The Blaze was set up as a conduit for Glenn Beck to communicate with people that think like him. It use to report news stories, most of it now is human interest stories designed to distract us from the economy, jobs, the war on terror, the election, the middle east and now a Chinese general telling his troops to prepare for war with Japan.
If you want feel good stories I guess The Blaze is the place to be, if you want news and intelegent conversation on world events Drudge is the place to be.
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Alex
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:14pm48Straights:
And yet here you are getting distracted.
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KickinBack
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:14pm48…
You ranting again about what the blaze should and should not post? Funny how you take the time to comment on the “non-issues.”
You do realize that the traffic on clicked stories are what the Blaze editors determine what people want to read. If you don’t want these kind of stories…Then don’t click on them! Period!
Btw: China is not going to declare war on Japan. Go back to your conspiracy theory sites for that stuff.
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KickinBack
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:27pmAh, look at 48′s last ten comments and you see a pattern. Not one legit comment, just ranting and ravings about what should or should not be news. I see a new kind of troll.
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48Straights
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:50pmYes a troll in the mold of Glenn Beck calling him out on what use to be a great news source. The Blaze was set up for Glenn to disseminate news important to Glen Beck followers, not Lady Gaga.
Perhaps you are right and Glenn Sold out to make money per click. I dont really think that is true, maybe. I think he has grown too fast and has hired women who are more interested in Justin Beaver and facebook than the election, jobs, the war on terror or a Chinese General basically declaring war on Japan.
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Welcome Black Carter
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:46pm“If you want feel good stories I guess The Blaze is the place to be, if you want news and intelegent conversation on world events Drudge is the place to be.”
And some of us have capacity for both. But there always the people telling us what we should not be reading. Seems like it would be easier to just go away… but what would they have left to do.
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USA DJ
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 10:20pmShame on you. All the important issues of the day are here as well. Glenn trys to include topics of intrest to the faithful as well. I find it interesting and it give me more hope in light of the despair in the world today. Everyone has major concerns about what is going on in the world today, all the more reason to keep our faith strong and Noahs Ark is but one of the historical events in the Bible. Keep the faith and quit ragging in Beck.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:19pmHave you seen that movie “The Happening?”
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Chet Hempstead
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:29pmSure. It’s kind of dated, but Anthony Quinn was great as the mob boss, it was cool to see a young Faye Dunaway as a hippy chick, and the theme song by The Supremes is still a pop classic.
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GoodStuff
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:17pmThe fossil record confirms a catastrophic global flood. Evolutionists can deny it all they want; they’re too busy looking for millions of phantom transitional fossils.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:34pmDon’t confuse Noah’s flood with the arrival of the moon.
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Danimal98367
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:10pmNo, the fossils show millions of years of evolution and extinction and survival or else all the carbon of all the fossils would deteriorate the same and date all fossils at 5,000 years old (among other testing ways).
Evolutionists HAVEdiscovered millions upon millions of transitory fossils. You are so woefully uneducated about these issues you ought to shut up and just say “the sky god said so and I don’t question a book that teaches genocide is okay and slavery too and kill gays”. Because that’s what you really mean. When someone as dumb as you treads down the path of “evidence” you trip over your drooling lower lip.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:17pmLet me put it this way – if you ain’t in an Ark, then you’ll be a zombie.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:25pmThere will be two men, and one will get carried away, and two women, and one will get carried away.
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Atrain1966
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:40pmIs this Charles Manson? Great Guru talk !
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no_muslim
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 3:05pmThat’s 50% of the population gone. A massive revival must be on its way
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wisehiney
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:14pmHere come all of the God haters. You folks are transparently miserable. Why don’t you try letting some of these fine Christian folks that post on this site bring you some relief. I see them trying to help you escape from the devil, with whom you are possessed. What wicked, pathetic existence you display. Look into the mirror for the cause of your misery.
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watersRpeople
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:13pmJust keep believing it’s a boat, and you’ll get washed away. If you don’t know what it is then you aren’t meant to know.
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Atrain1966
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:26pmIt was a boat. Symbolic yes. But still a boat.
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WhiteFang
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:50pmA boat is not an ark.
A ark is not a boat.
They are two different structures, one is a box, the other is a boat.
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Atrain1966
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 1:54pmWhitefang: I understand that. Wrong word used yes. I was only responding to Waters blabbering.
I know, it didn’t have a rudder, or a sail etc.
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WhiteFang
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:10pmAtrain1966,
Understood. :-)
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Alex
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 2:12pmWhy, in your opinion, must a proper symbol have no basis in reality?
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Onesimus
Posted on September 18, 2012 at 6:27pmWell the Hebrew language has a word for Boat, “Ark” is not the English version of it. The word translated “Ark” is for containers, boxes, coffins, and such….like the Ark of the Covenant.
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