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In the wake of violent, lethal mob attacks on our embassies abroad, many Americans are asking “Where was our defense?” Among those were the Rieley brothers, two veterans of Middle East conflict. One is an active duty Marine sergeant, and has been for almost a decade. The other is a sergeant in the Army where he has served for over five years. Given their respective statuses, they prefer not to be fully named. The Rieley brothers have five deployments between them, Iraq, Guantanamo, and Egypt — and both have seen their fair share of insurgency and violent mobs. Given that, we decided to ask them what the military has in its arsenal for dispersing angry crowds.
“Every embassy holds a stockpile of necessary defense weapons,” the Marine says. “I am just not sure why they were not utilized in these recent attacks.” And they know what they’re talking about — they have both experienced the scenario before.
“I was personally involved in dispersing multiple violent mobs during my deployments,” the Army sergeant says. “There were never any casualties. We have the capability to defend ourselves non-lethally, if that is the tactic in place.”
The Marine, who has just returned from safe-guarding American interests in Egypt, gives some advice from the front-lines.
“A catch word for commanders in the Middle East is ‘hard target,’ as in make yourself a hard target. Posture has a lot to do with making yourself a hard target. If you look weak or unprepared, you are more likely to get attacked,” he explains. “Also, use aggressive stances and a harsh tone of voice. When a possible indecent looks to be forming, putting on body armor and becoming aggressive can actually go a long way in avoiding real violence. When the U.S. military takes a fighting stance, people take note.”
With that in mind, the Rieley brothers have assembled a list of the most effective, non-lethal tactical weapons the U.S. has in it’s arsenal. “We have used almost all of these weapons,” the Army sergeant notes. The Marine brother ads: “Lemme tell ya, they are effective.”
7. Riot Shield Baton Formation
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Great for dispersing hippies
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We even teach our tactics to our African allies
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6. OC Pepper Spray
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5. FN 303 Riot Paintball Gun
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4. Beanbag Shotgun Rounds
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3. Heat Ray Microwave Dispersal
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Kinda works like this:
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2. Long Range Acoustic Device (LRAD)
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1. M-203 Rubber Bullet Rounds/ Rubber Shotgun Rounds
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KidCharlemagne
Sep. 20, 2012 at 6:10pmThis is the sort of thing that reminds me of President Eisenhower’s speech in 1961:
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“Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.
Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.
This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.”
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex.”
-Dwight D. Eisenhower, 01-17-1961
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Jim S
Sep. 20, 2012 at 9:40pm..How about we are “guests” in other countries? How about the idea that if you 50 US Marines to keep from being killed, perhaps you should just leave. If I’m in a room with people at 100 tables and the people at one table attack me and the people at the 99 other tables do nothing, I want nothing to do with ANY of them. The cancer of America MUST be removed from the Middle East. The Arab world does NOT need us,they can feed,clothe, educate themselves..the US is NOT needed. STOP ALL foreign aid, food, student visas, loans to ALL Middle East nations, Israel included. Let’s work on conditions in Oakland instead of Cairo for a change. Bring ALL the troops home from EVERYWHERE. We have “interests” instead of friends…well,I guess they have other interests,so should we.
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VoteBushIn12
Sep. 20, 2012 at 9:45pmChilling read.
Scale back! Cut it in half and apply the saved money towards advanced education subsidies and government research. Lord knows Nasa could use a few buck.
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Windozed
Sep. 21, 2012 at 6:55am@ Jim S
What if we did leave and that table still wanted to kill us? So since we left, now they have time to gather allies and bully others into helping them… You can’t leave these people alone. We are being far too soft on them but simply leaving them alone will allow the bullies to come out who are at that table and gather a force to come see us here on our land
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yippeya
Sep. 21, 2012 at 5:59pm@scaredfuzz–When the NG get there pay check, is it from the state or Fed????
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Jaycen
Sep. 21, 2012 at 8:50pmHey, Jim.
The “cancer of America”?
If we’re going to kill them, then kill them. If not, let’s get our guys out of there. America is not a cancer, but the so-called Progressive sociaism of George Bush and Barrack Obama IS a cancer.
Constitutionally protected freedom didn’t spread troops to foreign countries, “Progressive” policies did that. It’s the same Progressive policies that have turned our productivity inside out. It’s Progressive policies that nationalized the banking system, and forced the fractional banking system on “private banks” to control our money. You can’t call them private if they’re fully regulated, partially tax-payer funded operations, can you?
Progressives. Bush. Obama. Romney.
Obama’s also surrounded by radical Marxists. You know, the man who said socialism is a train station on the way to communism?
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I_luv_my_country
Sep. 20, 2012 at 6:10pmI do not believe that our military will ever be used against us. They are US.
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wraith67
Sep. 20, 2012 at 7:06pmThey will absolutely be used against us. First most of the youngsters have little knowledge about the Constitution and even less about Posse Commitatus. The officers that get the legal briefs in their Captain’s Career Courses – the briefings are all full of caveats and waivers. For senior leaders (major’s going on Colonel), this kind of pap is being published and discussed: http://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/full-spectrum-operations-in-the-homeland-a-%E2%80%9Cvision%E2%80%9D-of-the-future#comment-form 5263
They always use the media to smear whoever the target is – Joe Blow, (unilaterally declared) enemy of the state is a pedophile, cultist, dog humper, child molester, possibly gay, beats his wife and every neighbor that the press can ask questions of thinks the guy is weird… all so that when they blow his head off (or burn him alive) the public just says ‘weirdo probably deserved it’.
but it’s a silly comment anyway – if the government is that far gone, why would it adhere to any rules or acts anyway?
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Stelex
Sep. 20, 2012 at 7:49pmSome will, some won’t. Don’t be foolish and underestimate the ignorance of people. The Oathkeepers are an organization that every military, police, fire and rescue person should be a member of. But they are not……I’d also ad Doctors, Nurses and Teachers to that list……but there not. The Oathkeepers pledge allegiance to the constitution……and are concidered a terrorist org, by DHS.
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Stelex
Sep. 20, 2012 at 8:06pmFeel free to join, I’m joining as an associate. If you believe in the Constitution. Then all should join and send a message. WE THE PEOPLE ……..believe in the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights.
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Stelex
Sep. 20, 2012 at 8:24pmhttp://oathkeepers.org/oath/
Every one should sign up………………..
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Uechi
Sep. 20, 2012 at 8:52pmKeep smoking the dope. The US military is run by High ranking officers that value their retirement plans more then they do our Liberty. The average grunt has been taught to do as he is told and any action against US civilians will be gradual but eventually will end with nothing left but mercenaries. The rest will be drummed out, jailed or killed.
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Stelex
Sep. 20, 2012 at 9:26pmUnich, Most of the men and women in the military have family back here. I understand your cynicism but I believe that most of the military will not attack American civilians.They have wives, kids, fathers, mothers, aunt and uncles…..Only the sick and screwed up few would open fire on America.
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SgtB
Sep. 20, 2012 at 10:02pmYou are sadly mistaken. The U.S. Military has already been used against the Citizens of this nation on several occasions. Most notably was during the wake of Katrina. Service members were given orders to confiscate weapons from citizens. Some followed such unlawful orders thus violating their oaths and some didn’t. There are also service men and women performing unlawful checkpoint operations in a number of areas as well. The reality is that the state will encroach upon the Citizen incrementally over time like a hunter will incrementally put up a fence around a pile of food to trap wild pigs. If it is done over enough time, they won’t even notice it happening. Well, I’ll tell you what, the gate is on the fence and they are just waiting to close it with you inside. If you can’t see that, then you will be the one on a farm waiting your turn to be useful to your captor.
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GlintoftheScythe
Sep. 21, 2012 at 12:14amYou, my friend, are un-informed and naive. They have used US military against the civilian population before, Waco for example, and with deadly force, and will use it again.
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OlderCowGirl
Sep. 21, 2012 at 12:24amI agree that our military (most of them anyway) would never go against us Americans.
However…I think our Govt’ knows that…and would use the UN against us, instead.
UN soldiers from other countries don’t have any “ties” or sympathy towards us.
I do wish our US Generals would “do something great”…if ya know what I mean.
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Scaredfuzz
Sep. 21, 2012 at 1:10am@SGTB: those were National Guardsmen, which fall under the purview of the Govenor, and are allowed to operate in the capacity they did during Katrina (not that I agree with them confiscating private firearms)
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southernORcobra
Sep. 21, 2012 at 8:20amYou are a fool they have been used against us and some of them violated citizen rights. Look no further than katrina.
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I_luv_my_country
Sep. 21, 2012 at 12:14pmHate to bust anyone’s bubble but, the military was not used in Waco. The Federal Government sent in ATF, HRT and the FBI. I know because I was there.
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Threeve_Texas_With_A_Dollar_Sign
Sep. 21, 2012 at 2:47pmThe “average grunt” is far more intelligent than the “average grunt” 50 years ago. Though our newest generations are deficient in understanding of our founding, our Constitution, and our Republic, they are not blind followers. Giving the negative attributes of ignorance, stupidity, and mindless robots to our servicemen is an insult to all servicemen, past and present.
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BannedByHuffpo
Sep. 20, 2012 at 5:32pmA few M18s and a couple 55 gallon drums of foogasse always worked for us in RVN. If razor cuts from the concertina wire won’t keep you out, maybe the thought of immolation by jellied gasoline would do the trick. Of course there’s always white phosphorus as a last resort.
GO AHEAD! MAKE MY DAY!
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Obama_Forward_Over_The_Cliff
Sep. 20, 2012 at 5:27pmAnd … OF COURSE … The U.S. military under Obama’s control WILL NEVER use it’s weapons against American citizens on American soil. Right?
RIGHT?!?
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dont_drive_slow_in_the_left_lane_obliviot
Sep. 20, 2012 at 5:22pmand where do they think the military will be used to disperse mobs? Here in US? Or against the spontaneous RPG wielding mobs in Libya?
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Smokey_Bojangles
Sep. 20, 2012 at 5:21pm“I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic…” Foreign and domestic BOTH cover Obama.
You guys better remember that.We sure will.
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ronin_6
Sep. 20, 2012 at 5:37pmIts not the guys that wield the weapons that forget that. Its the guys that wield the pens and write the orders that need reminding.
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korbin
Sep. 20, 2012 at 5:43pmRONIN_6 You sir are incorrect, it is absolutely the guy’s with the weapons that need to remember their oath. If you like look up Katrina and watch as they illegally searched homes, stole firearms, strong armed an old lady and broke her shoulder. I believe the police chief took it upon himself to ignore the US Constitution at a time when it is needed most ( emergency/disaster ) The chjains of the Constitution need to bind men down….
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19RANDY59
Sep. 20, 2012 at 6:11pmKorbin@ you’re exactly right. If military, and local law enforcement would keep the oath, this country would be in a lot better shape.
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ThoreauHD
Sep. 20, 2012 at 5:14pmI’m not sure I like them showing off weapons they’ll use against their own people. The only thing used against enemy hostiles is the LRAD on Navy ships. The rest of that is designed to be used on you.
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kevymac
Sep. 20, 2012 at 5:12pmObama provided the weapons to the Libyan Al-Queda that killed Chris Stevens, just like “Fast and Furious.” provided the weapons that killed Brian Terry.
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Sep. 20, 2012 at 5:07pmIn the first picture, that person on the end must be all of 5 feet. I thought one had to be a certain size to be in the military? Maybe they are just volunteers to help demostrate this.
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fcbs46
Sep. 20, 2012 at 8:19pmA story to tell.
When I was in the Army, in basic. A fellow that happen to be Hispanic wanted to be in the Marines. He was five two and a hundred and fifteen pounds. He had tried to enlist and they told him he was too damn little. He was the best solder through basic. He had put in a request for an inter service transfer and then he did one more small thing. When we went on our twenty (thirty two plus in seven hours and twenty minutes) mile hike with full pack, he asked to hold his M16 at port arms all during the day. He did it even during lunch never sitting or resting.
Needless to say the entire company wanted him to get that transfer. As far as I know he got it and became a marine. True story happened in 64
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korbin
Sep. 20, 2012 at 5:00pmAlthough I agree with some posts on many of the issues the Blaze puts out, I ask this besides bragging about weapon knowledge or telling the world how many firearms and ammo you have what exactly are you personally doing to fight the fight? Maybe hand out pocket constitutions? Join oath keepers, encourage people to vote, encourage people to get engaged, learn US history, share important news topics with friends/family via e-mail, share your knowledge with facts. We should be joining forces for good, read your bible, lead by example…Fighting for freedom is a full time job many of our troops and their families could use support through WWP, Navy-Marine Corps Relief Society to name a few.
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Jezcruzen
Sep. 20, 2012 at 4:54pmI’m sure all those would have worked just great against mortar rounds and RPGs in Libya! They will work here until people on the street begin sending some rounds of their own down range.
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Bum thrower
Sep. 20, 2012 at 5:01pmPersonally, I don’t have any of that stuff; going to have to use regular buck shot, slugs, .30-06; and 9mm.
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kaydeebeau
Sep. 20, 2012 at 4:48pmSorry, but if you come against me, you do not deserve non-lethal intervention.
You come against my house, and if you get past the dog (I will kill you if you hurt my GSD) you will have approx 5 sec where you will here the cocking of my pump action shot gun (I can be scared to death and shaking but I can gaurantee I will hit you with something from the buck shot ). I will unload 5 rounds from said shot gun, Not that I think I will have missed you, but I will then be pulling my sissified (I am a small female) 380 and unloading 7 rounds into you
Not bragging, not threatening, just promising…..
If I, as a sissified, small ,never been in the military, female can take you out… let me introduce you to Mr Oath Keeper.
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grimmster
Sep. 20, 2012 at 5:00pm@Katdee.
I will do you one better, you get past my front door, you wont get past me and my Mossberg 930spx……and never mind the dog……
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Voter713
Sep. 20, 2012 at 5:01pmLOL…love it
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kaydeebeau
Sep. 20, 2012 at 5:18pm@ Grim… I understand what you are saying. I “live” in the upstairs of my house…..the dogs will bark – I can tell from their “voice” whether it is serious or not. Intruders will have approx 10 sec ahead of my recognising the bark of my dog…..suffice it to say there will be no prisioners or court cases
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Stan Horn
Sep. 20, 2012 at 6:27pmI am so blessed to now live in the country, just a mile off the blacktop where I have few neighbors and 20 miles from town. The few neighbors I do have are great likeminded folks. Rush hour now is the 2 neighbors down the road going to work and the schoolbus in the morning, then the mail carrier at noon and then the rush hour in the evening is the bus and the neighbors again…..very nice and so safe. AND if the bad guys come up the hill its gated and I got dogs, shotguns and a wide variety of things to make someone have a bad day…..
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razhunter100
Sep. 21, 2012 at 9:43amdanger:mine field.
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macpappy
Sep. 21, 2012 at 6:27pmThat all sounds good, but in real day tactics, you better have a fall back area; because before an intelligent attacker would face all your weapons, mine fields, or even your bad a$$ shotguns, they would, in every case deploy mortars. Game over if you can’t didi.
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jacobstroubles
Sep. 20, 2012 at 4:48pmwe’d be really smart right now to pull every single american out of the middle east, completely.
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saneromeo
Sep. 20, 2012 at 4:57pmI think its wiser for all Christians to head to Israel, and get out of the US…I would if I could :)
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DRT_7.62_BTHP
Sep. 20, 2012 at 4:47pmThe security was probably told not to use anything here and let the riot happen. After all we have oppressed those people and they have a right to riot.
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FaithfulFriend
Sep. 20, 2012 at 4:45pmGood thing I’m an American. I don’t have to worry about Army and Marines here at home shooting at me with this, that or the other. So I guess they’ll have to loan it out to the Guard and local police departments.
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booger71
Sep. 20, 2012 at 4:50pmMost police departments already have them. The federal prison I worked for had many of them.
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Countrygirl1362
Sep. 20, 2012 at 5:19pmI am sure that our government will order them to use real bullets on the American citizens. Our government would probably use the above only in other countries so as to not hurt their feelings.
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Individualism
Sep. 20, 2012 at 7:57pmi am sure they would if they were ordered to like many of their ancestors did in Germany or USSR.
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Patriot
Sep. 20, 2012 at 4:44pmcome get sum!
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cessna152
Sep. 20, 2012 at 4:43pmA few burritos, chick peas and carbonated beverage and I can disperse a crowd just as fast…
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DonaldH
Sep. 20, 2012 at 4:42pmThe wife of my nephew just went through this training @ NAS Oceana in Virginia Beach, Va.– A female sailor is being trained in riot control for what? She just loved the part of haveing to function in crowd control duties after being saturated with OC spray..
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Eric_The_Red_State
Sep. 20, 2012 at 4:42pmA Muslim – a Socialist and an Illegal Immigrant walk into a bar — the bartender says ————————————————— Hello Mr. President
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OccamsSword
Sep. 20, 2012 at 5:31pmThumbs Up!!
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GunnyT
Sep. 20, 2012 at 10:40pmYou got that right — love it!!!
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Mutiny
Sep. 20, 2012 at 4:41pmSoon to be used in our streets against us. Both sides are bankrupting us and after the collapse they going to use these weapons that we paid for to crush and oppress us.
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Shasta
Sep. 20, 2012 at 4:41pmI wonder who the government will be using these on.
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horsehockey
Sep. 20, 2012 at 5:09pmDomestic/internal targets if Obama is re-elected.
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CWPrequired
Sep. 20, 2012 at 4:40pmI’m sure the muslem extremist are laughing their xxx off at this one. You just go ahead and send someone’s son or daughter into the streets unarmed to die. The left has taken over our military as well. I think a AR15 and a 30 round mag will suffice.
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AJAYW
Sep. 20, 2012 at 4:38pmThey didn’t use them because obama and hillary said no- They died account of the POS of a president we have – both he and hillary should be tried for their murders.
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oxycontinxx
Sep. 20, 2012 at 4:42pmobama is AFRAID to engage. that is unless valerie jarrett says its ok……….like in the case of osama.
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Sep. 20, 2012 at 4:38pmComing soon to streets near you.
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vox_populi
Sep. 20, 2012 at 4:47pmSoon? This has all been deployed against Americans for years. Except maybe the heat wave thing, I don’t know of any domestic uses of that off the top of my head.
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oxycontinxx
Sep. 20, 2012 at 4:36pmand dont forget an m16 locked and loaded with lake city 62 grain steel tip penetrator rounds………….
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