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CNN’s Soledad O’Brien Confronts Joel Osteen on His ‘Being Gay Is a Sin’ Stance: ‘That Is the Opposite of Uplifting’
Pastor Joel Osteen is frequently derided for what some see as messaging that is too soft on sin. However, he has been very clear, when asked, about where he stands on specific social issues. Among them: Homosexuality. In past interviews with Oprah and Fox News, Osteen has declared that “being gay is a sin,” making his opposition to it, on Biblical grounds, more than known. This morning, the subject, once again, came up in an ultra-uncomfortable exchange when he appeared on CNN’s “Starting Point.”
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In an awkward back-and-forth, Osteen was confronted by host Soledad O’Brien and NewYorker.com writer Richard Socarides. O’Brien, while framing the preacher’s overall message as positive, took aim at the fact that there seemed to be a divide when it comes to his handling of homosexuality.
“You are known for these uplifting services…and I always wonder when you say, homosexuality is a sin and there’s a bunch of people who clearly are gay who are in your church, you’re calling them sinners,” O’Brien said. “I mean, that is the opposite of uplifting, I would think.”
Osteen quickly responded, saying that homosexuality isn’t really an issue that he focuses upon. The faith leader went on to say that there are a plethora of sins and that Christians have a tendency to categorize them (something he doesn’t support).
While he attempted to exit the conversation, another member of the panel jumped in. Mediaite recaps some of the dialogue:
Panelist and NewYorker.com writer Richard Socarides asked if, since we’re all sinners anyway, “homosexuality isn’t so bad.” Later, he asked Osteen whether he “chose” to be straight.
Osteen replied that “I know I have not chosen to be straight. I just feel like that’s who I am.”
He also said his success is due in part to “staying in my lane” and focusing more on uplifting scripture.
At one point, Osteen was fielding questions, with not a single individual on the panel agreeing with him or vocally supporting his stance. O’Brien jumped in during his dialogue with Socarides to say, “One question at a time” — a statement that shows just how tense it became on the set.
Watch the uncomfortable interview, below:
(H/T: Mediaite)
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cookcountypatriot
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 2:04pmdoesnt matter what that demon obrien thinks…only what gods word says…homosexuality is a sin…verybad ,,lake of fire stuff….dont worry soledad you will have plenty of company….lol
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doomytram
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 2:24pmObozo surrogate O’Brien isn’t a journalist. She is a blind, misguided, clueless Obamunist. But she plays a turd on TV.
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Libertarian
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 2:31pmWhen you have a pulpit as he does, you don’t play Mr. Moderate. You tell the truth. You cannot fence sit.
Feel good Christianity or should I say the loss of the meaning of the word Christianity.
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sWampy
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 2:50pmLittle boys being sodamized by liberals trying to reproduce is the opposite of uplifting.
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LeadNotFollow
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 2:51pm…
I prefer Pastor Jack Van Impe.
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anron4581
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 3:12pmHomosexuality is an Abomination to God. Why is it so hard for people to take the bible at face value? They have A right to be gay I suppose, but it is our duty as faithful followers of Christ to tell the truth, however hurtful it might be. Now don’t get me wrong, that doesn’t mean that we have the right to belittle, beat up or any of that nonsense, but we must let our position be known when confronted with the question of…is being gay A sin…..
just my 2 cents
God bless
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corbecket
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 3:17pm@LeadNotFollow
And I prefer Impe, over Osteen, as well. However, given Osteen’s extremely wimpy interpretation of biblical absolutes, Osteen’s comment regarding a scriptural “abomination” is breathtaking.
I will admit that I’ve always viewed Joel as religiously spineless when it comes to what the Bible teaches as absolutes. While there is no doubt as to the judgement of scripture against the act of homosexuality, I just never expected Osteen to actually state the obvious. Perhaps there is still hope for him, but I fear he has come to the table of scriptural accuracy very late.
Is there still hope for his ministry?
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MONICNE
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 3:22pmTomorrow is POW/MIA Recognition Day in the United States.
Please pause a moment to remember those who gave their all for their country.
Spend 10 seconds to consider the sacrifice of families and friends who still wait, and the tireless teams who work each day to bring closure to loved ones.
Thanks, Blazers
POW/MIA 21-9-12
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jblaze
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 3:28pmBottom line, a lot of people are going to have to go through the great tribulation: “for then shall be great tribulation such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.” before they GET IT!
Mr. Osteen would do well to read Malachi 2 to learn the curses the Eternal lays on priests who lead his people astray. Priests, ministers etc. have a special responsibility not to corrupt God’s laws!
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Detroit paperboy
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 3:33pmI have both male and female friends that are gay, I believe they were born that way,just wired differently or wrong if you like……especially the females, good grief,these chicks could kick my ass up one side and down the other………..and I’m a big dude……it’s not something they do , it’s something they are……………………..and they are all good hard working people, and many of them do not care for Obama…” I guess they are racist gays……..
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mtcountrygrl
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 3:38pmAccording to the Bible Homosexuality is a sin. If you have a problem with that, find another religion that better suits your beliefs or become an athiest and have no moral code at all.
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Rhold17
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 3:38pmReally? You’d rather trust a man like Jack Van Impe who has for the last 30 years said Jesus is coming right around the corner, distorts bible versus regarding prophecies to fit his agenda, pridefully touts all his hours of study every single program, and predicts the end of the world to take place on December 21st 2012, the end of the Mayan calendar? I can’t say the same.
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just the facts
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 3:39pmO’brien – please review
1.) KJV – Romans chapter 1. Kinda self explanitory but if necessary, we’ll walk you through it.
2.) In the book of Deuteronomy chapter 27. The curses, thats sort of interesting also.
3.) There are 62 books in the Bible. ALL but 1 mention refraining from fornification and/or adultery and the one that does not mention anything about ‘sex’ has a different message. Why would the inspired Word of God mention this subject throught thr bible??
Hope these give people sonething to ponder.
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Rhold17
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 4:03pmI believe homosexality is wrong. It is not God’s intended plan. And yes, in the OT it was an abomination. In fact, God said homosexuals were to be put to death in Lev. 20:13. God’s clearly not happy with it. God also calls eating pig ands seafood without fins or scales (shrimp, lobster, crab, crawfish, etc.) detestable. (Deut. 14). The NT shows us a part of God we were never exposed to in the OT. God tells Peter to kill and eat unclean foods in a dream. (Acts 10:13-15). God reveals Jesus who dies for all sinners. “But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:8) In Corinth a man was having sexual relations with his mother in law. Paul said to remain distant until he had time to learn what it was like living like the devil (deliver him to satan for a season) and in good wisdom that man came to his senses. They countinued to shun him but Paul tells them to accept him back in and love him. God wants us to love all people no matter what. If they’re not living a holy lifestyle then pray for them. I leave with this spoken by a man of great wisdom and stature, “Be merciful just as your Father is merciful. Do not judge and you won’t be judged. Do not condemn and you won’t be condemned.” – Jesus Christ (Luke 6:36-37)
God bless.
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jimnjoy
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 4:07pmPastor Osteen is a classic example of what the Bible referred to in Revelation 3:16: God is saying…”I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm – neither hot or cold – I am about to spit you out of my mouth.” Osteen is evidently a lukewarm Christian. It is good that he continues to say that practicing homosexuality is a sin. The Bible says it very clearly in too many places for anyone to say otherwise: ex. Leviticus 18:22; Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:25-27; I Timothy 1:8-10. However, he evidently refuses to deal with it appropriately in his congregation and in doing so he is ignoring what God says to do in such instances. If it’s a sin…STOP SINNING! We cannot pick and choose to apply scripture if we agree with it or not.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 4:11pmSpeak Vision
TODAY’S SCRIPTURE
“The tongue has the power of life and death, and those who love it will eat its fruit.”
(Proverbs 18:21, NIV)
TODAY’S WORD from Joel and Victoria
Every word you speak matters. Something you say may seem insignificant to you, but to someone else those words can be life changing. When you use your words to lift someone’s spirit and speak words of vision and life over them, you are depositing seeds that will last throughout eternity.
It’s especially important to speak vision into our children. As a parent, grandparent, aunt, uncle, teacher or friend, the children in your life need to hear on a regular basis that they can do something great with their lives. As parents, our words carry incredible weight. That’s why you should never put a child down. Don’t ever say, “You’re slow, clumsy or dumb. Why can’t you make good grades like your sister? Why can’t you hit the baseball like your cousin?” Those words are seeds. They can take root and affect that child many years later. Too many people have been crippled by low expectations. But today, all of that can change. Today, you can start to speak vision over yourself and over the people in your life. Today, you can call out the seeds of greatness in others and stir up the gift of God inside. Today, speak life, speak hope and speak vision!
THIS IS JOEL’S MESSAGE FOR TODAY and then I’ll add the Prayer.. NOTE it was inspired by PROVERBS. Any questions?
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 4:14pmHere is the PRAYER.. BTW you can get these sent to your EMAIL daily and they are great reminders..
A PRAYER FOR TODAY:
Father, today I choose to speak life. I choose to speak hope. I choose to speak vision. Let me see the people in my life the way You see them. Let me see the potential You have placed in them so that I can call forth their seeds of greatness in Jesus’ name. Amen.
MY MESSAGE: Be thankful for messages that help remind us of the wonderful instructions available to us throughout the Bible. JOEL does a great service. THANK YOU JOEL!
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Rhold17
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 4:24pmRead a good commentary on Rev. 3:16 and come back to tell me what it means. I’m tired of the same old scapegoat. In fact, if you didn’t read the opening of the letter it is addressed to the seven specific churches in Asia Minor (Rev. 1:10-11). And Paul and Peter were talking about gnostics in their day when they referred to false teaches coming in. Here’s an example people always tend to leave out: “They are those with whom the payment for evil is evil. A daytime banquet of defilement is considered by them a pleasure, and they are filled with defects. When they celebrate in their love feasts, they indulge themselves, Having eyes that are full of adultery and sins that never end, as they seduce souls who are unstable and have a heart that is trained in greed, children of the curse.
(2 Peter 2:13-14) I’m sorry but Joel Osteen or many other preachers that are scouted out by prophecy buffs do not go around participating in “love feast”.
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JRook
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 4:34pm@sWampy Some day you should really try thinking rather than just spewing out random thoughts associated with your ideological addiction. I’m sure there are plenty of Republicans and even conservatives that are gay. While I don’t agree with the lifestyle, the notion that it is only associated with liberals is blatantly ignorant. But I’m sure you’ve heard that before.
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getitgotitgood
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 4:34pmJoel Osteen is not a true christian. a nice man making a living on religion is all. when it comes down to it he doesn’t have a clue of what Christianity is.
PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 4:36pmI can’t deal with negative “CHRISTIANS”….Jesus was joyous!! What could be wrong with some of you? I pity you. You are talking APPLES and ORANGES. I get my information from many sources…EVERY DAY…and Joel is one of them. His reminders are great and insightful and welcomed.
What you pray, how you pray, when you pray, what inspires you to pray is personal. You do it your way, I’ll do it mine and Whatever works for you may not work for others.
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mayancalendar2012
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 5:11pm@ Detroit Paperboy…
I agree with you 100%. Gays (the real ones) were definately born that way. The way I see it, is that God has given us free will, just as he has given nature free reign – that’s why really bad things happen to really good people. Human conception and the splitting of the egg are incredibly complicated processes, and things sometimes go “wrong”.
I’m not trying to be funny here, but when nature fouls up, some people get Downs Sydrom, some get a club foot, and some get gay. It’s just nature,
AvengerK
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 5:29pmDETROIT-unlike liberals and leftists, conservatives and libertarians can agree on some points and disagree on others. This is a point that I heartily disagree with you. I don’t accept that homosexuals are born homosexual. There is no genetic pointer, no marker that one can go to in a human infant and say “this child will be a homosexual”. If there was this whole argument would have been put to rest a long time ago. A genetic pointer to homosexuality does not exist. Every homosexual or their advocate that I’ve asked to produce one either gives me debunked garbage or simply cannot produce one. Homosexuality in it’s strictest form only exists in human beings. What looks like homosexual behaviour in nature is merely shows of dominance, dispute resolution or survival mechanism this is not homosexuality, this is social behaviour within the pack, troupe, flock etc. No where in nature does there exist an animal that will mate exclusively with the same sex to the complete and absolute exclusion of the opposite sex. Your friends may be good people I don’t doubt you, but they’re not being honest with you..somewhere along the line of their development as individuals (early as it may have been) they convinced themselves that they were not attracted to the opposite sex at all. This is a psychological phenomemon, not a genetic one. Why am I so sure? Because homosexuality is a dead end, it serves no purpose to mate with the same sex, in fact it can kill you.
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Melvin Spittle
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 5:41pm“When you have a pulpit as he does, you don’t play Mr. Moderate. You tell the truth. You cannot fence sit.”
Exactly.
The only reason the media left bring Christian pastor’s on the show to interview is to highlight and label their beliefs on abortion and homosexuality as intolerant and hateful.
On the other hand, when interviewing Muslim leaders, they steer clear of the same issues. They prostrate themselves by making the enemies of Islam their own enemies as well through their condemnation of what they classify as Christian or Jewish extremist hate, while ignoring the massive examples of Islamic terror against homosexuals, Christians, Jews, and women.
Homosexuality is a sin. Homosexuality is an abnormal sexual behavior and is a primary path to propagate STD’s to include issues related primarily to gay sex practices..Multi partner premarital heterosexual behavior is just as bad and is supported through public school birth control access and readily available abortion services to remove all consequence and accountability. Both homosexuality and sex outside of marriage are sins. I believe the reason they are sins is that God knew this activity would lead to serious health and mental well being consequences. I consider the Word of God an operating manual for the human race. The evil ones want to steal the souls of your children and have been outrageously successful by eroding the rights of parents through progressive public policy and propaganda.
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Zer0
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 5:49pmI’m certain that Soledad is going to have an imam on her next program to confront him on his Islamic stance on gay marriage. Why is Christianity the scapegoat for the opposition to gay marriage based on religious views? EVERY major, mainstream, religion opposes homosexuality and gay marriage.
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Melvin Spittle
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 5:56pm“I have both male and female friends that are gay, I believe they were born that way,just wired differently or wrong if you like”
Detroit, do you feel the same for pedophiles? Should we not promote their rights as well? NAMBLA considers historical precedent (ancient Greek practices, etc) to justify their position that sexual relations with consenting post pubescent children is normal. They also use examples of modern day cultures where this is legal and part of religious tradition.
To be honest, virgins that are over 18 are rare in this country. Virgins in high school are considered prudes and excluded from the social grouping of sexually active virus incubators.
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SonOfThunder
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 5:58pmYes homosexuality is a sin. Joel Osteen is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. He leads his flock straight to hell. His positive message tickles the ears of many including fooled Catholics. Repent and put your trust in Jesus and in some fool with a positive unbiblical message. Osteen is a fake and does not know the Word of God. Osteen is the guy Paul talk about in 2 Timothy 4:3. Add John Hagee, TD Jakes, ken Copeland, Rod Parsley, Benny Hinn, and many others that many Catholics and fooled Christians and by the way Glenn Beck.. Beck is on board with this new age unbiblical lie.
“For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.” 2 Timothy 4:3
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black9897
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 6:13pmThat’s the new tolerance these days. If you say something that hurts others feelings and doesn’t make them feel good you are called bigot, mean, etc.
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Alessandre
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 6:40pm@ RHOLD17, you write: “In Corinth a man was having sexual relations with his mother in law. Paul said to remain distant until he had time to learn what it was like living like the devil (deliver him to satan for a season) and in good wisdom that man came to his senses.”
While we pray for & are just to those who engage in sexually immoral sins, as Paul tells us, we must “put away from [ourselves] the evil person.” (1 Corinthians 5:13) It’s extremely hard to walk away from those we love who are being sexually immoral – I’ve had to do it twice. Now, I’m facing the pain of walking away from a very good friend who is caught up in new age idolatry & won’t hear anything against it, even though she actually harmed me w/ it. But walking away is what we’re called to do. The 1st person I walked away from, repented & returned to the Church & I have hope for the other two. It’s painful but avoiding pain isn’t being a Christian. Picking up our crosses & following Christ is what we’re supposed to be doing. And sometimes the cross is walking away from people we love & praying they will return (& treating them justly while we wait).
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GOLDVICK
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 6:50pmRead! 1Corinthians 6:9-10 or Romans 1:26-28 Its crystal clear ! Osteen is trying not to offend anybody which is weak, to put it nicely.
pissedoffinbama
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 6:59pmim not a religious person at all.should be but im not, but oh no don’t you dare have a different opinion than those such high mighty people on the left don’t you DARE! You know i really didn’t care about gay marriage i do now hell bent against it now.
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FormerLib
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 6:59pmBeing gay is not a sin. Homosexual acts are a sin. Having an attraction for the same sex is not much different than having an attraction for children, or animals, or obese people, or shoes, or multiple partners, or latex, or any number of other fetishes or perversions. God loves all these people, and will accept every one of them if they renounce their behavior.
If these people have an issue with folks like Joel Osteen and think his his position is wrong and he is judgmental, they’re really going to hate meeting God.
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darkknight91
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 7:29pmPoor Joel. He just can’t articulate the truth and be Mr. Moderate and all around good guy while showing his sparkly white smile at the same time.
Brentley
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:52pmIt is really not a good thing to laugh. Your comments are right on about Homosexuality being a SIN. However a person going to Hell for eternity is not a laughing matter. It is sad and very disturbing that you find it laughable. Disgusting actually.
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HappyStretchedThin
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:04pmIs it negative to tell someone they’ve got spinach in their teeth?
Is it negative to point out someone’s got a factual inaccuracy in their argument?
Is it negative to tell someone you care enough about them to warn them of an impending danger? Especially if they don’t see it themselves?
Whatever else you think of Osteen he’s right on that one point. I just can’t figure out why he accepts the premise that calling someone a sinner is somehow a negative thing. He NEVER leaves it at that. UNLIKE O’Brien, Osteen believes sinners can CHANGE through a personal relationship with Christ. He believes they don’t have to suffer the consequences of their actions if they’ll let Him into their heart, and allow Him to change it for good.
I can hardly imagine a more POSITIVE message.
O’Brien is guilty of the intolerance she projects onto Osteen (and all Christians, apparently). She conceives of groups as so bound up in some kind of essence that they can’t control, that she can’t imagine the poor rising out of poverty, blacks rising above racism, legal immigrants enjoying full citizenship rights, etc., etc.
Her accusation of intolerance could not be more hypocritical.
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jzs
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:09pmFrankly, I think she was just trying to stir up false controversy for ratings. The guy has every right to preach whatever he wants of course, and if his opinion is that something is a sin, well he ought to say that. He ought to preach his beliefs, whether they are “uplifting” according to Soledad or not.
The only real sin is that guy’s ****.
michael48
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:12pmMr. Osteen is living the rino way…going along to get along…although an extremely nice man…this is what got the country in the shape it is in…agendas and division are set in stone…as this was the intent of the present occupant in the district of criminals….I just wanted to live my life as I have for 65 years…and be left alone…niether of which appear to be within reach…66′-68′ did what the gov.gumbas told me to do..I survived in spite of thier idiotic political crap…they’re not going to get a second shot…not with me…make book on it…
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Fatheroftwo
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:18pmMonicne:
My flag will fly at half staff for all the brave men and women who have been lost and never found but not forgotten!
Peace Brother!!!
POW/MIA 21-Sept-2012
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BuzzardSays
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:28pmHomosexuality is a mental disorder where the normal function of ones genitalia is ignored in favor of perverse sexual gratification. And like a snowball rolling down a hill the mind requires a never ending expansion into sickness and level of perversion to achieve the same level of gratification.
Biblically the desire for homosexuality is a denial of God and the placing of God below ones own lust. The cure is as simple as the belief in Jesus for salvation. Jesus will start cleaning your house if you will let Him.
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Freedombeliever
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:38pmI can’t watch this. I only know that Soledad Obrien is an enemy of all things right. And all things Christian. She is evil incarnate. Leave it to CNN to slam the esteemed Joel O. These networks are getting desperate.
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sillyfreshness
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:14pmAccording to the “chosen people” controlled Marxist Media, there is nothing more pure, not more great, nothing you should strive to be in life than a mentally ill gay person. The Dems are so one dimensional. All they think about are gays from the time they wake up until the time they go to bed. I’ve never met a white male Democrat who wasn’t a gay at heart.
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Obama_Forward_Over_The_Cliff
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:17pm“Panelist and NewYorker.com writer Richard Socarides asked if, since we’re all sinners anyway, ‘homosexuality isn’t so bad.’ ”
Relatively speaking, that is true since all are the same level of “badness” — the “death penalty” level:
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God
-Romans 3, Holy Bible
20 but [apostle Paul] declared first to those in Damascus and in Jerusalem, and throughout all the region of Judea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should REPENT, turn to God, and DO WORKS befitting repentance.
-Acts 26, Holy Bible
REPENT (rî-pènt´) – verb – To make a change for the better as a result of remorse or contrition for one’s sins.
2 And Jesus answered and said to them, “Do you suppose that these Galileans were worse sinners than all other Galileans, because they suffered such things?
3 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.
-Luke 13, Holy Bible
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;
29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, …
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32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.
-Romans 1, Holy Bible
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forgottobid
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:55pmWe had this discussion at church. About whether you should kick gays who try to attend out because homosexuality is a sin. It’s clearly sexually immoral.
But, we’d also need to kick out all you folks who got divorced and remarried. It’s adultery plain as day. It is a sin just like sleeping with someone else when you’re married.
AND we’d need to kick out probably 90% of the men. That includes many men on this website, or for you ladies, your husband and/or son who hit that private browsing function on IE or Firefox and masturbate to a video from youporn, redtube, spankwire, etc. Maybe it’s 95%?
Kind of counterproductive eh? So, instead of kicking gays, husbands, fathers, sons, and divorced women out, let me make something clear- as a Christian, I will not run from, shun OR JUDGE a sexually immoral person who is not a Christian. It is not my place. You can be my friend and I’ll associate with you any day of the week.
If you’re Christian and sexually immoral, you have a higher standard. You’ll be held to it. And loved even if you fail to meet it and more importantly loved as you deal with the inevitable consequences of living a life outside of what God intended. I’ll do that because God extended that grace and mercy to us all despite our sins, and I’ll extend it to you.
Love,
FTB
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Marine 1
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 12:25amAnything coming from the Communist News Network is garbage anyway.
The media today is a lost cause. I prefer listening to the Spirit of GOD – now that’s getting the straight information in a timely manner.
This country and the world are going down in flames and the best source for correct info is still GOD. The Still Small Voice will guide the faithful through the mist of darkness. Just hold to the Iron Rod folks and forget about CNN and all the other lying media outlets.
I’m far from perfect but I have enough sense to hang in there with GOD.
Patriots unite under the banner of freedom and keep GOD out front. We will save this nation in the end.
Semper Fi
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Rhold17
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:19am@ALESSANDRE Agreed.
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USA5
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:20amSoledad said, she was lost..no kidding ..a lost soul who has lost her soul.
I just don’t like or respect her form of questioning.
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4truth2all
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 7:24amYo JZS:
A preacher is not to preach his beliefs, he is to teach the Word of God. Joel preaches half of it for what appears to be a fear of offending, and this would cause people to reject him and his messege. So, it would seem that he in fact puts himself before others. The whole message is meant to convict people of their sin and repent , which means to turn from it. Joel may very well do more damage then good with his “good” and uplifting message. People were offended at Christ and His message and the others at this table indicate that truth still exists. If this man would have laid down the truth with meekness (strength under control, forceful but gentle) without compromise, that would have been so. The truth is meant to cut to the bone! Maybe one of them would have been convicted by their wrong thinking. Guess we’ll never know.
Read Jeremiah 6:9-12… is this offensive to you ?
Jesus is good news … take the whole pill …
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Zipit
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 8:48am@ZERO! Good post, and a good representation of left wing “tolerance”, concerning Christian viewpoints!
Viewpoint, Osteen, “being gay is a sin”.
Viewpoint, Obrien, we will not tolerate your viewpoint
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richard the lion-hearted
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 9:22amThank goodness Adam didn’t think he was ‘born’ gay, otherwise none of us would be here. Think about that all of you supposed homosexual Christians (which would make that act in direct opposition to Heavenly Father, quote: “Be fruitful and multiply”, the FIRST great commandment after the fall) and a sin by definition and description. Now those who struggle with the highly addictive (being sexual in nature) sin of homosexuality, attend church. stay celibate while they struggle through the VERY strong shackles of this sin (the more egregious the sin the stronger the ‘chains’ that bind you to that sin are) I empathize, love you and pray you will be triumphant over the sin, in a day where the society has broken down to not only accept homosexuality but force it on the masses through ‘speech control’ and punitive “legal” social actions, the struggle is harder than ever before. Stay Strong, pray constantly, and stay actively involved in righteous endeavors.
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richard the lion-hearted
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 9:29amOh and just to clarify, I love ALL my brothers and sisters, even those misguided, lost to sin, brothers and sisters who perpetuate the serious lie of homosexuality being ‘normal’ and not a sin, misleading their fellow citizens and adding on their own heads not only their sin but the sins of those they mislead. YOU need our prayers more than any other.
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freeus
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 9:42amNothing like ganging up on a guest, Soledad. Homosexual is an unholy behavior. If you are not religious or don’t want to deal with it from a religious perspective, it is an unhealthy behavior.
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saranda
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 10:18amand yet God put adultery on the big 10 list and no one takes gb to task over his remarriage after divorce. doesnt Mathew define that as adultery?
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beckistheking
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 10:21amLOL. You ignorance is astounding. Where in that grimy little brain-washed mind of yours do you lock away your common sense? Sexual preference is no more of a choice than eye color, height, skin color or anything else. If you think which sex turns you on, your own or the opposite, then you must be a homosexual who chooses to be heterosexual. And your religious delusions are your burden and no one else’s. No one is going to hell. Hell does not exist and neither does your god and all the other nonsense you believe in.
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beckistheking
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 10:24amLOL. Your ignorance is astounding. Where in that grimy little brain-washed mind of yours do you lock away your common sense? Sexual preference is no more of a choice than eye color, height, skin color or anything else. If you think sexual preference is a conscious choice, then you must be a homosexual who chooses to be heterosexual. And your religious delusions are your burden and no one else’s. No one is going to hell. Hell does not exist and neither does your god and all the other nonsense you believe in.
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godlovinmom
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 10:38amSARANDA…oh yes my friend, that is exactly what adultry is…as far as olsteen and homosexuality.. two peas in a pod…the sinner and the sin…I really could care less if someone wants to be gay and if someone wants to spread a false gospel..but you DO NOT call evil good…Alot of people want to make excuses for sin anymore, I was born that way, I just wasn’t happy anymore with my husband, I’m not ready for a baby…know what I mean????
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mils
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 10:40amhonestly….she needs a new compass in life…try asking someone like obama the “hard” hitting questions…but she goes after a pastor that does not make waves…
Joel is a nobody, why go after him? she’s silly and tries to act so knowledgeable…dumb
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tennantusa
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 11:20amshe goes to church, but isn’t big on the Bible. She’s a fool, at best!
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Git-R-Done
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 11:53amBeckhater – Funny how you claim that you believe in science and reason when you can’t even provide scientific evidence that homosexuality is born that way. You’re just a stupid anti-Christian Marxist bigot.
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retiredso
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 11:54amThe country practices tolerance that is a feeble attempt to water down God’s word to make it more tolerable. Tolerance will not lead you to the promised land.
Remember the road to Hell is wide and the road to Heaven is narrow.
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DarkWolf
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 12:56pmGod said homosexuality is a sin, an Abomination to Him, if people have a problem with that then take it up with God and good luck. I would not want to piss off God.
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TH30PH1LUS
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:33pmSoledad O’Brien – how about actually reading a few pertinent Bible verses before interviewing a pastor? You just outed yourself as “not familiar” with the topic you are discussing. Bad job as a “reporter”.
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DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 3:13pmI’ve read that Soledad is an easy pickup after two drinks…if you’re so inclined.
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arckangjell
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 5:03pmto all I dont know why he/preacher just didnt qoute the scripture which would have got him /ostein off the hook The scripture says that a man shall not lay with another man as he does lay with a woman.
This statement is in the old testament. Jesus Christ Did say I did not come here to change the law.
So if God the Father says dont do it & his only begotten son says i didnt come here to change the law
Guess what it still is a prohibited act.
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bmc6053
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 5:32pmNowhere in the Bible does it say that homosexuality is a sin. It talks about man on man, woman on woman action from a heterosexual point of view. It is unnatural (same sex, sex) in that regard. Sex in general, other than procreation is generally a sin though, isn’t it?
I have to wonder if some people are capable of perceiving the difference between homosexuality and homosexual acts. The whole thing gets messy when we consider that “homosexuality” is a modern creation and identity… but that may just be linguistics. *shrugs*.
Don’t mind me, just trying to keep my facts straight. They usually are, but I’m only human.
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DenverKitty
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 5:40pmAmen.
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godlovinmom
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 5:44pmWe have gotten so politically correct…MAN ON MAN is homosexuality…or as the bible puts it…sodomites!!!
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1TrueOne55
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 6:38pmI think that what needs to be talked about is what does the word SIN accurately mean. Some say it is similar to a term used in early ARCHERY that indicates a failure to hit the “Bulls Eye” or center ring of a target, to fall “SHORT” of the intended objective.
When you look at SIN in that light then you would see why Homosexuality is a SIN, it fails to produce any generations for continuation of the species that is a SCIENTIFIC fact that will not change no matter how many times you test it or study it. You can only create follow on generations if you the mixing of genetic material from two genders, one male – one female.
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4truth2all
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 9:03pmYo BNC:
The LORD breaks the chains of sin completely not just in actions but thoughts.
For a man to lust in his heart after a woman is also sin/ or the opposite … most of us forget that one.
Scripture says to KILL sin in our lives , not wound it!
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RebelPatriot
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 12:38amI don’t know how the MSM can sit there and lambast Christians on their oppinion of homosexuality and say how oppressive and backwards we are when if they were to ask Muslims their opinion they would simple say they have no living homosexual Muslims unless they are in training for stuffing bombs up their bums in order to kill the infidels.
Attempting to compare Christians actions toward homosexuals as oppressive is ridiculous when you look at the actions of Islam in which our government supports 100% in their endeavors to govern nations.
Every action to assist Islam by this administration has been nothing more than a death sentence for Christians and homosexuals in those nations. But yet King Hussein is applauded by the MSM for his efforts in helping the poor Muslims and their hatred, backed by violence.
When was the last time a Christian killed their child for disgracing their family because the child was a homosexual? In Islam it happens on a daily basis, and nothing is reported. But we will continue to send financial support to a nation controlled by a group that continues to murder women, children and homosexuals in the name of Allah without hesitation.
Why aren’t they interviewing King Hussein for supporting terrorist organizations with American taxpayers money?
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VMA214
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 3:57pmSoledad and the rest of the liberal yoyos are about as sharp as the flat edge of a 2×4…only Godless fools would not think of homosexuality as a sin. The God of the bible said it to be an abomination. There is salvation for true repentance, but as for most of these folks, there is no sin. Man is free to do as he pleases for there is no God in their minds or hearts. Richard Socarides must be fooling himself, yes, being **** is by choice…unnatural, abnormal and repulsive.
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beckistheking
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:00amYou and the rest of the delusional religious nutters here are beyond contemptable. Shame on you silly fools for making the ridiculous, ignorant comments here. I’m looking forward to the day when religion is finally wiped off the face of the earth. And it’s coming.
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wingnut1955
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 2:03pmWe are all sinners, but some are saved by grace. I don’t call homosexuality a sin, God does. Argue with Him.
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Danzig
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 2:18pmPerfect answer!
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AvengerK
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 2:30pmHere’s an interesting dynamic to this discussion. Richard Socarides’ father- Charles Socarides- was also a psychiatrist and completely disagreed with his son (Charles Socarides has since passed away) on the nature of homosexuality. Charles Socarides maintains that homosexuality is a psychological disorder whereas Richard Socarides (himself a homosexual) maintains that it’s not..that a homosexual is “born this way”..hence the question “did you choose to be heterosexual” to Osteen.
It’s a very loaded, misleading and disingenuous question by Richard Socarides and Osteen had Socarides squarely in the gunsights when it was asked. Osteen should have responded that we dont’ choose to be the normal state of our species..we are genetically pre-propgrammed to be heterosexual as it is the natural and normal state of our species. To be homosexual is to be outside the ideal state of the human species thus making homosexuality an unnatural state for human beings to be in. It’s not like being left handed or something. But Osteen should have continued from there in order to pin Socarides..that if R Socarides has any credible evidence that homosexuals are “born this way” where he can produce genetic pointers to that state of being he should produce it…but a homosexual’s word alone is simply not good enough knowing how obsessively militant and misleading homosexuals and their advocates can be along with the psychological issues inherent in homosexuality.
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westtitus
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 2:31pmHe could also let her know that people that just live together are also sinning and maybe that would calm her down a bit. Fornication is fornication no matter if is is between men or women. She might check out the Bible and see what it says about LYING because she does enough of it! Live eveyone says can’t fix stupid and boy is she stupid!
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cantstandlibs
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 2:44pm@AVENGERK
Very good post. I will use that line of thinking. Incidently, I know someone who chose to become lesbian because the dating scene was not working out for her. She saw not good prospects she was interested in. She freely admits she would have rather had a normal dating experience. I’m not sure what percentage this would apply to, but liberals always take the LOWEST as the common denominator and destroy society to accommodate them. Look at the pathetic 18 year old whose parents would not take her to get a picture ID, so she would be unable to vote (sob, sob,) so we have to bastardize the whole process. Liberalism actually does have a final destination, and it is between Cuba and the depths of he//.
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amerbur
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 3:17pmAvengerk. It matters not if there is a genetic marker or not. Many abnormalities are passed on genetically. The bibel says that the sins of our fathers will be passed on to the third and fourth generation. I assume, sometimes genetically. Mankind clearly has done great harm to itself over the generations due to sin. They have not taken care of the earth and have caused genetic mutations and illness – do I even need to go into detail about all the destruction and suffering we have brought upon ourselves because we do not obey the laws of God and nature? Is there any doubt that there are genetic mutations due to sin? Wake up and quit using genetics as an excuse Common sense should tell you we were not made to create new life in certain ways. The creation of life through the joing of two bodies and souls is natrual and intended to be an incredible gift from God. If you are strictly a scientist and an atheist you should be honest enough to look at the equipment. Stop trying to tell us that 1+1= 0
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vcthumper
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 3:22pmGod says it’s a sin,and I follow God, not some motovational charlitan.
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Gonzo
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 3:39pmExactly Wingnut. Your problem isn’t with Osteen, Soledad…he didn’t make the rules. Go right to the top…and good luck with that.
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corbecket
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 4:23pm@Wingnut1955
Way to go Wing! That’s taking the Bible and really applying it. Should I say that I don’t call murder a sin, God does?
Apparently Osteen isn’t the only spineless Christian out there. Oh, by the way, murder IS a sin, and I’ll say it. It is not for nothing that all of those rules were written down for you 2000+ years ago. Learn ‘em, and live ‘em.
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OUTRIDER WRITER
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 4:26pm@WINGNUT1955 –
You might be a cycle wingnut, but you are clearly not a Biblical wingnut.
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Great post. Best of the bunch. And stated only 21 words. NICE.
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AvengerK
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 4:40pmAMERBUR…the biblical argument (although important) does not convince the godless liberal and the deluded homosexual and his advocates that the homosexual is aberrant or abnormal to the human species.
The crux of the homosexual argument is “born this way”. The implication is that they are genetically predetermined to be homosexual. Additionally..there’s supposedly nothing wrong with being homosexual..it’s just like being left handed or something like that. So if they’re supposedly genetically predetermined to be homosexuals…they then insinuate the idea that they are not to be singled out from society for something they’re powerless to prevent. But ask a homosexual advocate to produce genetic evidence for homosexuality..for some kind of test to show that a child will definitely be homosexual and he can’t do it. Quite simply that’s because there is no genetic predisposition for homosexuality. It’s an aberrant psychological state, a developmental phenomenon in the human species alone. No where in nature does strict homosexuality- where same sex will exclusively mate with same sex to the exclusion of the opposite sex entirely-exist, except in humans. Not penguins, not bonobo apes, not chimps, not dogs…only in humans does this exist. But if that truth is enforced then the whole “born this way” argument collapses and this is something homosexuality and it’s advocates can’t have take place.
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skimmer57
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 5:22pmWingnut– Doesn’t the Bible clearly state that if you divorce and remarry you are an adulterer? Why no mention of that sin? Isn’t Glenn divorced? Is he living a life of adultery? Maybe being a homosexual is just too ickey for you.Statistics state that almost half of marriages will end in divorce. I suggest that you holier than thou pick up the first stone. You freakin hypocrites!
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Verceofreason
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 5:47pmHow can one argue with a fantasy.
I guess it’s OK for athiests to be gay.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 7:35pmVoiceofstupidity – Since when are your positions based on reality? LOL
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GaltLine
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 7:47pmGod could only call homosexuality a sin if people could choose to embrace or avoid it. Since He has called it sin it is impossible any people are born with it.
God could only call homosexuality a sin if people could persevere to conquer and eliminate it from their lives. Since He has called it sin He must have placed that very strength to conquer within each of us.
God could only call homosexuality a sin if He was determined He would make a way for the weakest of His creatures to be delivered from it. Since He has called it sin He must have secured the means of our deliverance when we request it. (Romans 7:24-25)
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TRUMPETCALL
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:38pmAnd this is one of the reasons the United States of America is in the condition it’s in at this time…..
The Sovereign LORD is removing His hand of Blessings on this country.
Cheer up, it’s gonna get rough!
Amen?
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MittensKittens
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 7:56amWingnut, that’s a good answer, all I know is you don’t get a calf from 2 steers…to each his/her own, just leave me alone.
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Mil-Dot
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 9:21amYou have to have some serious evil pulling the strings in one’s brain for a man to favor another man over all the beautiful women on earth, and vice versa. Homosexuality is a perversion of the highest order. Probably the most disgusting of all human actions.
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beckistheking
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 11:40amGod is a concept created by men a few thousand years ago. Modern humans have been on the planet for at least 100K years – so where was god all those years? The real sin is that the world is in turmoil over fictional beliefs and myths. That’s the sickening reality that we all have to face. There’s no such thing as the supernatural. Your beliefs are false.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 11:52amBeckhater – Don’t get mad that you Marxists have no morals at all and that your beliefs have killed more people than all religions combined.
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DJ in AZ
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 2:01pmSorry, but Mr. Osteen was being pretty wishy-washy there. I was not impressed with his defense of the scriptures and the commandments, at all. Soledad and her liberal cohorts need to get a Mormon general authority on their show for a good explanation of this issue from a scriptural and spiritual perspective.
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angelcat
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 3:08pmI agree with you. Right and wrong isn ‘t about being uplifting or making people feel good about themselves.
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zbunner
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:59pmWhat a pansy! Stand up for your beliefs and for Jesus! Stick to the Word. Who cares if it makes people upset. Why do Christians have to change their beliefs just because others find it offensive? Isn’t tolerance what the liberals preach yet they are intolerant of Christian beliefs? Jesus said that Christians would not be liked, get over it. Revelation 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
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The_Jerk
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 2:07pmJoel Osteen is a Jesus for cash pastor. His image is as important as his message.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 2:18pmOMG….are we seeing a LEFT WING SMEAR ON JOEL OSTEEN? U slimeballs afraid of his massive following? Easy for you to sit in your basement, getting paid by George Soros to knock this Christian?
JOEL doesn’t need to defend himself. You might for trying to smear Joel, but he doesn’t need to defend himself.
PS: If sinful people’s (ALL OF US) SPIRITS ARE LIFTED, WE MIGHT JUST become able to understand the teachings of Jesus …. they will at least heard about what JESUS says.
Otherwise, believe that the left and all those ghouls are determined to wreck any capacity Americans have to believe in GOD. This SOLEDAD IS JUST ANOTHER LINK IN THEIR CHAIN.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 2:25pmPANSY? BECAUSE HE REFUSED TO BE TRAPPED BY THIS SHE-DEVIL? I don’t think so.
GOOD TRY, chump, no cigar.
I like the comment below that GOD calls Homosexuality a sin…argue with HIm. ALL of us have our hands full trying to bring our COUNTRY (that GOD GAVE US) back into some semblance of sanity.
DO NOT go’round knocking a good man…and as far as the BIBLE…EVERY WEEK one verse (or more) is FEATURED by Joel, but you wouldn’t know that..you are just a lemming.
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Walkabout
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 2:50pmThe_Jerk
Yes I expect him to preach while wearing sack cloth & ashes in his ****.
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dickdastardly
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:58pmI saw this interview as it was happening and I felt a little sorry for Joel..it was a lost lamb surrounded by hungry wolves. SB and her minions should be ashamed of their self righteous, Godless (it seems) selves…”We are all sinners!”…that’s what Joel should have stated but it’s clear that he really doesn’t know what he believes either…and he’s afraid to take a stance because it might hurt his book sales…sad sad sad…I have friends who attend his church and know they don’t think like him as they have backbone when questioned about the scriptures…but how many others under his guidance don’t? He should retire from his “day job” and become an inspirational speaker because he surely isn’t a pastor in my opinion. God help him and all he influences…they need it.
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AvengerK
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 2:37pmThe question that Richard Socarides launched at Osteen was Osteen’s opportunity to destroy him. One cannot choose to be the normal state of our species thus one cannot choose to be heterosexual. it is in our DNA..we are built this way as the normal state of our species. If R. Socarides (a homosexual and a psychiatrist) can produce credible evidence of genetic pointers that show a human child is predestined to be homosexual (the “born this way” meme) he should do so..otherwise we’re looking at a psychological disorder- that is- a developmental phenomenon, not a genetic predisposition.
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voting-for-romney
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:57pmThe phrase “uplifting” refers to uplifting the laws, the teachings, the personal experience of knowing God, and experiencing the gifts of the Holy Spirit?
Uplifting sin is not part of the message? Uplifting the Gospel, the power of healing, the power to know the truth, and have the ability to exercise it in you daily life, is why people go to Church? That’s what they are uplifting? Feeling the presence of God, experiencing the power of love on your life that is not based on the flesh, is uplifting?
The only people that celebrate the sabbath by talking about their behavior in the bedroom are who? Imaginary characters that live in the world of Hollywood film makers? Jesus said we would do greater things than he did? Whose life did you raise from the dead today?
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amerbur
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:55pmI am fat. It is a sin to over eat. I am having a very difficult time with weight. I can look at 4 generaions in my family and they all look like me. Should I ask Joel not to preach that gluteny is a sin. A homosexual is attracted to the same sex and wants to have sex with the same sex. I am sorry, but it is not natural to have sex, man with a man or woman with a women. Some people are born violent. Dose that mean it is OK to act on that violence. This argument that because we are born with something makes it OK is a farse. It is not healthy, natural and should not be encouraged or proclaimed and healthy, natural.It does not mean that we should not have compassion but it should not mean that we lie to ourselves and partake in a lie. By the way Soledad – the bible says we are all sinners and I know I sin and I know you do too. You think you are smarter than nature and God.
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nonwinger
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 2:12pmWell said. Ever wonder why so many pastors, lay leaders, politicians, etc. can’t seem to just say it that clearly?
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skimmer57
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 5:53pmIs getting remarried after getting a divorce a sin? Are you committing adultery? Is one sin greater then another? I can’t hear you. That thumping noise from your Bible is getting too loud!
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amerbur
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 6:25pmSkimmer 57. If you really want to know, ask God!!
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Git-R-Done
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 7:38pmSkimmer57 – Spoken like someone who’s trying to eradicate the Biblical truths. Typical Bible burner.
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finky555
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:16am@SKIMMER57
you asked “Is getting remarried after getting a divorce a sin? Are you committing adultery? ”
No, according to Jesus there is one cause for divorce. See Matthew 19 ver 9 “I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery”
If your spouse is guilty of sexual immorality, you are allowed to divorce. You may remarry, but the spouse will always be an adulterer. The Catholic Church does not agree with this and I don’t know of any other Christian churches that do. Regardless it is right there in the bible.
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ourig
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:51pmguy is a sin … call it what it is we all sin but that is what it is guy is a sin
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amerbur
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 2:16pmActing on being gay is a sin.
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OUTRIDER WRITER
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 4:32pm@AMURBUR
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Exactly.
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CWPrequired
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:50pm“who let that woman out of her hut” said the local muslem extremist.
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bannedfromCNN
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 3:59pmShe was expelled for munching on their (prayer) rugs…
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walnutportconservative
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:47pm“my lane is lifting peoples spirits”
I’d rather hear the fullness of the truth.
No debate on sexual immorality
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68Patriot
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 6:40pmto each his own WALNUT.
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walnutportconservative
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:45pm“In my services, I don’t cover all these subjects that we talk about here”. Just in that statement would prompt me to get out and look for a more serious body of believers then the people flocking to Joel’s lane. He has so many attendees because his “lane is lifting peoples spirits”.
Thank God my brothers hold me accountable at my place of assmebling.
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johnjamison
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:52pmYou don’t uplift a sin
Damned are those that view good as evil evil as good day as night night as day sin as morality morality as sin.
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zorro
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:56pmAnd that’s the problem with Evangelical “Christians” like Olsteen. When asked about how he makes the 45,000 peple in his flock feel, Joel Olsteen answered, “I don’t focus on that.” In other words, Jesus is in our “heart” and it’s all in our “relationship” with Jesus. The path to heaven is clear. You’re either on it or you’re not. You can’t be on it if you don’t focus on sins that are going to make your flock feel uncomfortable. If I went to church and was never uncomfortable, I’d stop going. I don’t want my pastor or priest or whatever to teach me half-truths so as to not offend others.
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txblaze
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 3:19pmAnd that statement shows why Osteen is a motivational speaker – not a pastor.
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Re-Founding Sons
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:45pmSoledad is THE worst, I can’t stand her condescending attitude towards anyone who doesn’t think like her.
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walnutportconservative
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:50pmWhy go to church if you don’t read the bible
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zorro
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:59pmI’m having a hard time figuring out why anyone would agree to interview with her. If you don’t think like her, you know you’re just being set up.
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cykonas
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 3:40pm@Zorro
To sell a book.
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Gonzo
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 4:20pmI bet there were a bunch of people in Sodom and Gomorrah who felt just like she does…right up until the divine nukes detonated.
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Blazed_and_Confused
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 5:46pm“I can’t stand her condescending attitude towards anyone who doesn’t think like her.”
Oh, the irony of the Blaze. It’s too much to bear.
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68Patriot
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 6:56pmBLAZED & DEFINITELY CONFUSED, The difference is that she considers herself a journalist which are supposed to be objective. That girl is anything but objective. I have no problem with her gay panel getting emotional about the subject since they are obviously CONFUSED like you.
This is an opinion site. If you don’t like the opinions don’t log on. I don’t care for Liberal opinion news therefore I don’t watch Soledad or CNN.
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WatchingThePuppetShow
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:45pmGod created man and woman to love and honor Him along with procreating, no? The ‘everybody’s ok’ philosophy has been designed by men not God. God loves the homosexuals but clearly hates their lifestyle. Just as I have a reason to change my poor behaviors, IF I love God. And clearly those who choose to live the gay lifestyle IF they love God also would have to change their behavior to please God. Of course if they don’t believe in God then this debate is of no matter.
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amerbur
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:42pmShall we say that sex with children, dogs and cats is OK. Some acts are a sin. Some times it is difficult to call a sin a sin. He is being obedient to God. If you do not like it, take it up with the God in whom you clearly do not believe. Why do you care what Joel thinks?
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tuffterf
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 5:44pmI love that argument, but pedophilia, beastiality and even necrophilia are all forms of rape, we do not condone rape. Homosexuality is a consensual relationship.
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kaydeebeau
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:41pmWell Soledad, Hell isn’t very uplifting either. The message of the Church is to warn others to repent to avoid the consequences of our sinful choices. We can continue to choose sin or we can choose grace and turn away from the wages of sin. The thing is, we cannot claim the grace / repentence and continue willfuly in our sin.
Did Soledad flunk her catechism clases?
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dickdastardly
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:51pmBy her own admission, she doesn’t know much about the Bible…and it shows
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PoliticiansUsuallySUCK
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:40pmWhy don’t they ask muslims why the Koran advocates violence?
Why don’t they say it is evil for muslims to forbide eating pork?
Do it, I dare you — I double-dog dare you!
Tell them evil muslims who bad they are for all their rules, huh?
LMAO — this is ridiculous.
No religion catches flak like Christians for believing what their religion teaches…in a country that endorses freedom of religion.
Hey, if you don’t like what the bible teaches, you are free to believe something else & practice a different religion. Do Christians try to tell other religions what they can & cannot believe as a religion?
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Verceofreason
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 5:46pmThe problem hon, is this
Christian try to inflict their belief on other people,
even other religions.
NO ONE is attacking Christians – just their big bigoted mouths.
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Eastinfection
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 6:14pm@VOICE … A certain percentage of Christians are evangelical because they are (misguidedly) trying to save lost souls…. like yours. They’re no more in your face than other religions are- or Atheists named “Voice of Reason” are for that matter…. Stand up for YOUR beliefs. Can you do it in a way that doesn’t expose you for being the arsehole that you are? THIS is your challenge in life. Be better.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 7:37pmVoiceofstupidity – Yet it’s you atheists who have killed more people than all religions combined. So if anybody has bigoted mouths, it’s you atheists.
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echo216610
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 8:10amChristians believe in spreading the word of god to anyone who will listen, muslims believe in beheading anyone who will not submit to allah, and yes islam is a religion of peace, but to them peace is what happens after you cleanse the earth with the blood of christians and jews.
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Damocles
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:39pmSoledad is such an angry insignificant little lady.
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Verceofreason
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 6:18pmJust like Ann Romney.
To her your just ‘You people’.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 7:36pmVoiceofstupidity – Don’t get upset that others who have money shouldn’t be forced to take care of losers like you.
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 7:49pmYou are pretty obsessed with taking conservatives out of context
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john vincent
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:39pmNot a big fan of Joel O, but Ms Obrien is the pits-
A man steals your grandfather clock, and she would be insulted if you called him a thief.
There ARE absolutes in the real world, Soledad, it matters not if you are offended; lying is sin, stealing is sin, covetousness is sin, pride is sin, adultery is sin, homosexuality is sin. That is not Mr. Osteens opinion, it is God’s.
He is simply relaying the message.
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AR485
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:38pmHe has no answer because he’s afraid to defend the gospel. This is the price for compromising on the gospel. The Bible does not call us to persecute sinners, but to lift up Christ and let His word shine the light of truth on the surrounding darkness. I don’t remember Paul ever saying that he stayed in his lane when it came to proclaiming the truth. His answer should have been, “we are all sinners!” Being nice and appeasing got him run over in this ambush. Enjoy the profits from your cheap gospel, Mr. Osteen.
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kaydeebeau
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:37pm2 Chron 7:14
Joel 2:12-13
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5headspro.com
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:37pmAdd your comments
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5headspro.com
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:36pmI think scripture is pretty clear on the issue Joel. Either don’t go on CNN or don’t backpedal. You sir will be judged by what you do and say. And that too is according to scripture.
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revron
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:53pmHaving an enemy means I took a stand on something. This is the 1st time I have heard Pastor Joel take a stand on anything and I agree, I hope he doesn’t go back into his neutral hole.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:34pmChristianity isn’t about making you feel good.
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woodyee
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:38pmAmen!
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Wolfgang the Gray
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 3:40pmSoledad doesn’t understand about morals. The current society is “do what makes you feel good.” That may be the secular way, but don’t expect God to agree with it. The Bible is a book to help guide people in their morals & ethics. Is Soledad going to be praising the virtues of beastiality in 10 years?
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Caballosinnombre
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 6:05pmObviously as the lady said, shes doesn’t know the Bible. So for someone who walks in darkness to suddenly be exposed to the light of God’s Word, would be pretty uncomfortable.
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68Patriot
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 6:36pmHeck, if it was, my wife and I would never leave our bedroom.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:24pmWolfgang – The secular way is based on lies and deceit. It promises pleasure but it’ll just end up giving you a miserable life.
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Verceofreason
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 12:08amThat’s what sex is for.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 11:56amVoiceofstupidity – No wonder you’re such an idiot. You’re willing to risk having a miserable life for just a few moments of pleasure.
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TEIN
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:31pm“being gay is a sin,”…Meaning that person are engaging in acts that are considered sinful outside the bonds of marriage..homosexuality is defined by acts, not a state of being…..
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marcked
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 12:26amGood point!
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huey6367
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:31pmSoledad, the “journalist”, couldn’t keep an empty room from arguing. That’s her thing.
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