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War on Football: TX School District Bans Christian Banners at Football Games

Sep. 20, 2012 7:31am Billy Hallowell

Just months before the annual War on Christmas is slated to kick-off, atheist activists are tackling yet another target — football. TheBlaze has covered a number of stories involving non-believers and their campaign to eradicate any semblance of religion from public high school and college teams. In the latest example, Kountze Independent School District has officially banned run-through banners that contain religious messages — an act that has set off a firestorm of controversy.

According to Fox 33, the trouble started after cheerleaders in the city of Kountze came up with the idea to add Bible verses to banners after attending a cheer camp. The words of encouragement were intended to inspire the football team, but following a complaint, the district’s superintendent Kevin Weldon has banned any and all religious-themed designs.

KSNW-TV has more:

“Coaches preach devotionals before games. We wanted to show our support for our boys,” explained Meagan Tantillo, the young woman who came up with the initial idea to use Christian-based signage.

The superintendent has been tight-lipped about who made the complaint that led to the ban on Christian run-through banners. However, he has admitted that he was reluctant to comply.

“It is not a personal opinion of mine,” Weldon explained in an interview with KVUE. “My personal convictions are that I am a Christian as well. But I’m also a state employee and Kountze ISD representative. And I was advised that that such a practice (religious signs) would be in direct violation of United State Supreme Court decisions.”

Rather than sitting back passively, the town’s 2,100 residents are apparently talking feverishly about the situation — and taking action.

Tantillo and her fellow students responded by making Christian signs and presenting them at the school’s volleyball game this week. The football players, among others, are also supporting the girls’ efforts.

“We aren’t backing down,” claims Tantillo, as the students plan to find ways to infuse faith into games as much as possible moving forward.

A Facebook page currently shows more than 33,100 people signing on to support Kountze High School students in their ongoing battle.

Kountze Independent School District Bans Christian Football Signs

Photo Credit: Facebook

However, Weldon has made it clear that legal counsel recommended that religious activities not be carried out, even if the are being organized and implemented by students.

“Per the advice of TASB Legal, please do not allow any student groups to display any religious signs or messages at school-sponsored events,” the superintendent wrote in a letter to parents who are involved in organizing extracurricular activities. “I appreciate your immediate attention and conveying this to your staff and sponsors of student groups. For example, the run-through signs at the football games.”

So far, despite the district’s mandates, it appears the battle is far from over, as atheist activists’ “War on Football” wages on.

(H/T: Fox 33)

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Thornyrose13
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:30am
As a cheerleading squad, the students represent the school, a government entity. So, I can understand this ruling. If the banner were held by family and friends in the crowd, I don’t see any problems. But really, what is the point? Is it really appropriate to be invoking God for a football game? Does it mean when a team loses that God is mad at them? Too many people on both sides of this issue are WAY too eager to fight battles indiscriminately, without regard to finding a a reasonable basis to respect the other side. This is just one more example of that.

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- Sumrknght
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:00am
  Every single football game I took part in in High School – we prayed before the game. Simple prayer asking for God to grant us a game without injury – both for us and our opponents. And should it turn out that way – Grant us the victory. (sounds a little selfish doesn’t it? :) But… we won state my junior year.
  
  Article is titled wrong. It’s not a war on football. It’s a war against Christianity. Did you watch the vote at the DNC? They DENIED God – 3 times. My jaw dropped. It was the Bible coming to life.
  No doubt about it folks… have you and your house in order. Be right with God. World events are swirling like we’ve never seen before.
  
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- sfrich
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:08am
  So there were never any injuries in your games?
  
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- ProbIemSoIver
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:10am
  Your “Government Entity” is a private Company, and “Government entities” are not allowed to violate people’s 1st Amendment rights.
  The “Government entity” is supposed to protect our rights !!!!
  
  BILL of RIGHTS
  
  Article I
  
  Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the the people to peaceably assemble, and to petition he government for a redress of grievances.
  
  What part of “or prohibiting the the free exercise thereof” don’t you understand ?
  
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- ProbIemSoIver
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:22am
  Here is another hard one for you to swallow.
  
  The reason the school district is a private comapny is because the creditors of our Bankrupt U.S.A.
  Liquidated America in 1992 under Bush’s Executive Order #12803
  Infrastructure Privatization – AMERICA FOR SALE !!!!!!!!
  Welcome to your matrix !!!!!
  
  In 1992, George H.W. Bush signed Executive Order 12803, which gave D.C. the authority to sell America’s infrastructure. They called this authority “Infrastructure Privatization.” E.O. 12803 tells us this power cleared the way for the “disposition or transfer of an infrastructure “asset” such as by sale or by long-term lease from a State or local government to a private party.”
  
  E.O. 12803 also lists examples of America’s saleable and/or lease-able infrastructure:
  
  · Roads
  · Tunnels
  · Bridges
  · Electricity supply facilities
  · Mass transit
  · Rail transportation
  · Airports
  · Ports
  · Waterways
  · Recycling/wastewater treatment facilities
  · Solid waste disposal facilities
  · Hospitals
  · Prisons
  · Schools
  · Housing
  
  http://rense.com/general86/nomis.htm
  
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- cessna152
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:23am
  This country, was established on the God of Abraham and on Jesus. Read the Declaration of Independence, it’s quite evident. You’ve been brainwashed to believe that kids have no right to express their freedom of religion and to assemble peacefully… wait, i think I heard that somewhere before. Yes, the Constitution.
  
  All countries have their Heritages/Culture and system in which they were founded on. In the Middle East they have Sharia, in most South America Catholicism and in the USA, Judea Christian values. Like it or not, this is our culture and to speak freely of Jesus is a free choice we have. When a PUBLIC entity says “NO”, then it is Unconstitutional. It is freedom OF religion not FROM! This is our culture and heritage, if you don’t like it that’s fine…you don’t have to. But I have no sympathy for those who dare stop it and slander those that believe. BTW, it’s such a horrible religion… teaching people to love, have morals and be accountable. Our freedom is based off the God given rights and that’s why this country is great!
  
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- encinom
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:24am
  @ProbIemSoIver
  
  What part of the Establishment Clause don’t you understand?
  
  Nobody is saying private individuals can not hold signs in the stands and say private prays. The Problem is the Cheerleader squad, in uniform, on the field give the appearance of the School endorsing Christianity. If this was a private school, there is no problem, its a public school funded by tax payer dollars.
  
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- RebelPatriot
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:30am
  As a public school it is a public place and if we are not allowed to express our feelings in a public place then the first amendment is not worth the paper it is written. If someone else wants to write a banner for all the other relgions let them do so and fly them at the games. If the freakin’ atheist want to wish them luck because they feel we got here by happenstance then let the do so.
  
  This isn’t about what is on the banner as much as it is about giving into government and special interest groups our right and freedom to express ourselves.
  
  Instead of just teaching evolution, teach both creatonism and evolution. Instead of banning prayer, open it up with prayer from all and if the atheist don’t want to pray they can spend 1 minute telling us over the loud speaking how stupid we are for praying to a God we can’t see, hear or touch.
  
  Don’t take our right to express ourselves away just so atheist don’t get their feelings hurt because they are afraid we may be right. Give them equal time on the intercom to voice the opinion.
  
  The problem is those atheist are too smart to get up in front of 5 thousand Christians and tell them why they don’t believe, but they have no problem compaining that we are infringing on their rights not to be subjected to prayer. The PC crap needs to come to an end.
  
  Our Secretary of Defense tells us not to talk negatively about Islam and our own government tells us we can’t pray to our own God.
  
  This country has lost it’s b
  
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- Wolf
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:30am
  Isn’t it interesting that Texas- the one state/republic that every one claims is so ‘free’- has so many communities and legislators coming up with laws restricting freedom of religion, among other infringements of peoples’ rights? Hardly worth moving to, IMO: just another RINO/CINO country.
  
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- jcldwl
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:30am
  @ thorny
  
  You need to read the U.S. Constitution. First of all it is Freedom of Religion. Second of all neither the school nor the students are the U.S. Congress therefor the display of religious beliefs by them are not in violation of the U.S. Constitution. That would be the 1st amendment that you need to read. Oh heck here I will quote it for you and you can look it up yourself if you are capable.
  
  U.S. Constitution Amendment 1
  Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
  
  That’s it. Can’t seem to find where it says a school or students of that school can’t exercise their freedom of religion even if it is on school property. If you can find it please feel free to reply but I would suggest you learn it, love it, and live it. It’s all about freedom.
  
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- AdmiralQ
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:37am
  @ Encom Dude a cheerleading squad is NOT the Government. Thus they have the right, those uncomfortable with the excercise of faith, DEAL WITH IT
  
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- encinom
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:08am
  “Instead of just teaching evolution, teach both creatonism and evolution.”
  
  Evolution is based on science and facts, creationism is based on fairy tales. Lets enforce the Constitution, keep religion out of public schools.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:09am
  @jcldwl
  You have to read the Constitution, the 14th Amendment incorporates the Bill of Rights onto the States and Agents of the States.
  
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- IHateIgnorance
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:10am
  I agree womewhat to this. The only thing I have against what you said is shouldnt the school be thinking in the intrestes of the student and not in their own. If the majority of the student body has one similar cultural aspect, than shouldnt they be allowed to express that. Just like the fact that I am a Christian, but I am force to learn about evolution and a history of the worlds origins and how it developed that i dont believe in, but the school systems revoke the thought of teaching the other side of the arguement wwhich is creationism. Many people will fight and say that there is no facts that support creationism, but than why has the bible been proven to be one of the most accurate history books in the world. Instead we learn of the theory of evolution. Our begingings as a single celled organism maturing into a complete being. Even though there has never been a species that has been found that is in the transitional period of one species to the next. This is just one school that has had enough and wants to stand up for their beliefs just like those that have pushed creationist teachings out of schools have been for years. So why is there an up roar? Why should only one side get there way we we are supposed to been in a free nation that is sympothetic to what others believe? Just becuase someone is taught something in school doesnt mean they have to believe it. Just like I dont believe in evolutionist theories, but im not complaining
  
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- lowerclassrepublican
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:12am
  That always kills me! The Constitution is clearly written and when it is listing a branch of Government or the people it is specific. The executive, The states, The people, The congress. All these branches will fight to the end on that specificity, but the separation of church and state crowd. Why? oh that’s right because it was argued buy the Supreme Court that if it was not the whole government then a state could decide it was going to become baptist. That would just be preposterous so they couldn’t of ever meant that!
  
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- encinom
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:18am
  @IHateIgnorance
  
  the irony of your screen name is that you preach ignorance and debunk lies about evolution in support of a fairy tale like creationism. The difference is that evolution is science, its a theory that has been tested, refined and retested, its provable . Creationism is nothing more than a myth, no different than any other religion’s creation myth. There is no science to support it, no lab tests to prove it and it can not be changed despite what the evidence demonstrates. Creationism has no business in any school.
  
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- FreedbyTruth
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:36am
  @encinom
  Since we are picking apart the constitution. The 14th amendment says nothing about freedom of religion. The only thing close in that amendment is ” No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States” There is no law being passed or enforced by the cheerleaders. Note ALL of the statements about freedoms restrict the government from enacting LAWS that RESTRICT. They do not say opinions and beliefs cannot be expressed. Members of Congress pray all of the time right there in the well of the house oh and btw athiests are welcome to express their beliefs as well. AND by the same token people have the right to complain to the cheerleaders personally to say “hey you know what when you put up that banner I feel excluded” At that point it would be up to the cheerleaders if they want to be respectful of others or not. My hope would be they would but they are FREE to act as they would without the government getting involved.
  
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- JRook
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:46am
  Saying the lords pray is not in and of itself specifically christian. The banner is blatantly singular in its religious orientation and over the top. I would similarly request that it not be associated with a formal group from the school. If the evangelical christian students want to bring the banner to the games great. But any representatives of the school should not be associated with it.
  
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- JRook
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:48am
  And by the way this continual 15 mins. of fame nonsense that the blaze provides these evangelicals is becoming rather obvious and tiring. How about some real stories with substance. Is feeding the angry mob really this simplistic?
  
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- encinom
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:56am
  @FreedbyTruth
  
  First, if by truth you mean what Beck, Barton and other like them preach, than you are confusing truth with lies.
  
  Second, the 14th Amendment incorporates the bill of rights onto the states and the state entities and agents. Any action by an agent of the state that gives the appearance of an endorsement of religion would be a violation of the Constitution. The Cheerleader Squad, during a school sponsored event, in uniform and in the center of the field displayed a Christian message. It was a clear violation of the Constitution. Your problem is that you are too stupid to realize that Beck and Barton have lied to you. The case law controlling this subject can fill volumes of books, they all dismiss the reactionary teachings of Beck and Barton.
  
  The true issue is that you wish for Christianity to have a special place in American Culture, above all other religions. From the debate regarding marriage equality, to the employment issues regarding woman’s health care and contraceptives, to school pray and teaching science, Conservative Christians are demanding that their religious dogma be supreme to all others and control any questions. Conservative Christians want a back door Theocracy, that only appears like the Secular Republic the Founders left behind.
  At the end of the day, your
  
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- piper22
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:58am
  No, the students don’t “represent” a government entity. The Supreme Court has already held that their free speech rights do not end at the “school house door”.
  
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- LIBSALWAYSLIE
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:59am
  THORNY, you are one clueless idiot. I’d explain, but you have no ability to comprehend, so I wont waste my time.
  
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- dylan
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 12:02pm
  Idiot!
  
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- dylan
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 12:04pm
  Idiot!! Asking for GOD’S blessing is not message of bad or mad.
  
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- termyt
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 12:13pm
  @encinom
  So you want to win the debate by silencing the other side of it through slander and intimidation. Wonderful use of science – if science is your religion instead of a method of discerning fact. Please show me the science proving evolution. It does not exist, which is why evolution remains a “theory.” Touting it as the, uh-hem, God’s honest truth has no more scientific merit than saying God created it. Unless you have those missing links that none of us know about.
  
  Science is not about providing why, only how. It is only right until it is proven wrong. At one time, the best minds in the world that it was a flat disk. Now we know better. Real scientists know this and know that today’s truths are tomorrow’s half truths (Sir Isaac Newton’s 3 Laws, anyone?).
  
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- DrunkGOP_Hack
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 12:14pm
  Thorny – sÅck it!
  
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- DrunkGOP_Hack
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 12:16pm
  ENCINOM – your a dumb as your mom and dad!
  
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- grobro_h
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 12:44pm
  idiot.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 2:23pm
  @termyt
  
  That’s right idiot, evolution is a theory.
  
  Theory: a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena.
  
  Its the brain damaged Christians that view the bible as anything more than a collection of myth who are the problem. Their is nor, zero, none, zilch evidence for creationism outside of the bible.
  
  Nor has evolution been disproven, the evidence supporting evolution fills museums world wide as well as University libraries. The American belt to marching back to the dark ages with their rejection of science and reason.
  
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- turkey13
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 3:24pm
  No kid left behind was fo education not sports. When I hear a school begging for money and they have all those sports I don’t feel sorry for them. What a lot of schools pay for a coach will get at least 2 regular teachers. Back when I played 50 years ago it was all after school and everything was done with donations includin a coach.
  
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- Evantoo
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 4:14pm
  STUDENT’S are lawfully permitted to show their religious beliefs in any manner that they so choose. The ADMINISTRATION cannot initiate such things, NOR CAN THEY PROHIBIT THEM WITHOUT VIOLATING THE STUDENT’S 1ST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. Don’t ANY of these stupid school administrator’s keep up with the law? Are they that ignorant? Or are the merely participants in the liberal movement to deprive everyone of their right to express their beliefs wherever they are?
  Considering how the schools are doing, I’m inclined to believe the latter.
  
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- binge_thinker
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 5:38pm
  For some good news….http://aclj.org/school-prayer/helping-good-news-club-started-pennsylvania
  
  and this… http://aclj.org/school-prayer/school-allow-student-religious-flyers
  
  and more…http://aclj.org/school-prayer/student-allowed-use-bible-school
  
  last one for this page.
  
  http://aclj.org/school-prayer/2011-victories-students-can-wear-religious-symbols-school
  
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- bigmac1990
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 5:41pm
  @sfrich i ran cross country and we always prayed before each race and asked god to keep us safe as we ran and to keep the other runners of the opposing teams safe as well. and all the 4 years that i ran there was never an injury that i can recall. and now that i run at the collage level i will keep praying for my team mates and the other runners who i compete with.
  
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- AllLost
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 5:57pm
  I am getting very tired of this garbage. As cheerleaders they are citizens who have free speech and freedom of religion. No government official did anything to promote one religion over another. It is the likes of you that wish to take away theirs and mine freedom. To HELL with you.
  
  Muslims did one thing for me…they have shown me how to get my way. Just maybe it is time for the ‘radical’ Christians to live up to all of the slander and libel the left has put out.
  
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- Favored93
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 7:56pm
  @encinom
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:24am
  \@ProbIemSoIver
  What part of the Establishment Clause don’t you understand? ….
  ———————————————
  Every time you speak you show just how desperately ignorant you are.
  Others here have laid out clearly what the establishment clause means and you STILL don’t have a CLUE!!!!!
  I do feel badly for you…your ignorance is showing!
  
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- Favored93
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:15pm
  @encinom
  You said “……The case law controlling this subject can fill volumes of books, they all dismiss the reactionary teachings of Beck and Barton.”……
  Our law schools have been teaching our lawyers and future judges past court dissensions instead of teaching what the constitution, bill of rights and declaration of independence have had to say. Why do you think that is? Why is it that instead of teaching what IS the SUPREME law of the land they teach our future judges what the judges before them think that law meant when it said ….. (fill in the blank)?
  I think you know why that is but you are one of those that think Government is all powerful (or should be) and want this nation to look like the other nations of the world and so you hold up a court ruling instead of what the LAW ACTUALLY SAYS!
  I could care less what a judge has to say about our Constitution but I care DEEPLY what that constitution has to say….We all here know that you clearly don’t….you are free of course to move to a country that better suits how you believe…China sounds like a good fit for you.
  
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- Cavy2see
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:41pm
  Nothing wrong with both sides praying…it was done at the games way back when jousting was the thing…no one seems to think that the olympics putting pyriamids and pentagrams was not ok…just saying…we need to let these kids do their praying…it sure is better than swearing and drinking…oh goodness …if you don’t like prayer don’t go…that is all…don’t stop our freedom of religious prayers…
  
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- ProbIemSoIver
  Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:15am
  I admit I am not familiar with an establishment clause.
  
  But I will go out on a limb and say the 14th Amendment was ratified after the International Banksters seized this Country due to the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.
  That was the year income tax began, and I know the 16th amendment was never ratified and came after 1913.
  I am sure the Founding Fathers would have never passed a 14th or 16th Amendment.
  Those are Amendments put in place by the International Global Banksters after their minions – The progressives, infiltrated our government like german co@kroaches !!!!
  
  @Favored93
  Who the H#ll are you ? lol. I never made any comments after I heard about the infamous 14th Amendment. So you just promulgated you nescience on the World Wide Web.
  If you want an education. Read my transcripts. Clown. lol.
  
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- ProbIemSoIver
  Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:23am
  @Favored93
  
  I think I misunderstood your post, so I apologize.
  
  You were stating that encinom had been edified as to the real meaning of the 14th. Not I.
  Although, I admit I know nothing of the 14th. I do know from common sense, that the 1st Amendment is NOT abrogated by a 14th Amendment.
  
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- ProbIemSoIver
  Posted on September 21, 2012 at 3:54am
  @Encinom
  
  The People are allowed “Private Prays” ??????
  
  No. I am Sorry. Their First Amedment ensures that they can Pray Out loud.
  
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- Favored93
  Posted on September 21, 2012 at 12:09pm
  @ProbIemSoIver
  Not a problem I should have been clearer I just copied and pasted that whole post then replied to it lol
  
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- PATTY HENRY
  Posted on September 21, 2012 at 8:17pm
  oh, um, er…okay…. Let’s MAKE SURE there is NO mention of GOD at football games…practices either…not in the locker rooms…or even classroom…not on our bikes or in the stands…not en route to the games or afterwards…not the day before or the day after…heck…let’s do away with GOD altogether, okay? I mean ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WHO CREATED THEMSELVES and MAKE THEMSELVES BREATH AUTOMATICALLY and the seasons to change, the moon to rise and the sun to come up…nothing has anything to do with GOD…so let’s do away with silly ol’ GOD. Let’s make sure we ridicule anyone who wants to think about, pray about and especially EVEN CARE about GOD…I mean…we may be insulting someone who really thinks there is NOT GOD… Let’s take Him out of schools (oops we did that) and out of Books, off TV and out of the RADIO… WHAT DO WE EVEN NEED TO KNOW ABOUT ANY GOD FOR??? RIGHT??? The mere fact that HE created Heaven and Earth and all things in both places…incidental.
  TELL YOU WHAT… All those who want to know nothing about GOD, who don’t want to be burdened with GOD just head on over the M.E. right now. They’ll fix you right up. The rest of you, SHOW SOME SPINE!!! WHAT IN THE HELL IS WRONG WITH TEXAS???? Forgive us GOD. You are our everything. Our GOD is an AWESOME GOD. The rest of you? tough.
  
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- PATTY HENRY
  Posted on September 21, 2012 at 8:24pm
  SOMEONE tell that pathetic Liberal agitator that there is NOT ONE single shred of evidence that EVOLUTION is even remotely possible. WE were created, there is DNA, THERE IS DESIGN, THERE IS THOUGHTFUL PROCESS AND SEASONS, PERIODS OF TIME, BRAIN WAVES, EYEBALLS, FINGER PRINTS THAT PROVE WE WERE CREATED (IN THE IMAGE OF GOD)
  DARWIN WAS A PHONY DUDE, DON’T YOU READ? Men have spent billions of dollars trying to prove that the big bang theory worked and have failed every time. THERE IS NOT one shred of proof that we were created by anything but a Master DESIGN…which has -0- to do with random evolution. YOU can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can’t fool us all any more. YOU go off and try to find anything, any paragraph that proves the evolution is how we came into existence, you pervert…and then come back…in the mean time. I feel sorry for you. You’ve come to the party but you never got on the front porch of life. SAD is an understatement.
  
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- barryswhitehalf
  Posted on September 22, 2012 at 1:24pm
  Way to go, Judge!!
  On Thursday, a judge granted a request by the nonprofit Liberty Institute law firm to temporarily bar the implementation of the ban. It also set a hearing for early October when the sides will be able to make their arguments. The cheerleaders planned to raise their 20-foot banners at Thursday evening’s junior varsity football game.
  
  Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/20/texas-high-school-bans-religious-banners-at-football-games/#ixzz27DjGPdDv
  
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Mannamomof4
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:29am
For those living in Texas, you can go to http://www.thsc.org to find a sample letter of withdrawal to remove your kids from public school. Find other parents who are upset by this and stand together and fight. Money is the biggest factor here. If students aren’t in the classroom, the school doesn’t get paid.

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Little Johnny
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:21am
Religious banners simply have no place at school sponsored events.

Here are the words of Ronald Reagan:

“We establish no religion in this country, we command no worship, we mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are, and must remain, separate.”

Freedom of religion is paramount in our great country. So is freedom from religion. It simply has to cut both ways.

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- NewLife56
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:28am
  “We establish no religion in this country, we command no worship, we mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are, and must remain, separate.”
  
  Point Taken, but if you read the constitution is also clearly dictates “The government shall not prohibit the expression of it as well”
- boiz
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:39am
  So please explain exactly how does a banner establish a relision, command worship or mandate a belief?
  
  I don’t think you can!
  
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- Little Johnny
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:50am
  What if the school’s cheer-leading squad was coached by a Hindu? And she (the coach) required her girls to carry a banner that had Hindu quotes on it to every game? As a Christian parent of one of the cheerleaders, how would you feel?
  
  What if your son was a football player, and he was a Muslim, and he wanted there to be a banner for just one game that displayed Islamic teachings — but the school said no way?
  
  The bottom line is that there are plenty more good reasons to limit school-sponsored religious displays than there are to allow any public school to display whatever it wants.
  
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- Dr Vel
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:28am
  Yet it never cuts both ways with all the psychotic anti God people does it? You have twisted meanings. Freedom from religion means the state is not allowed to command you to worship in any way. Nothing in this equates into license to stop people who believe from expressing their religion. For over 200 years this nation remained strong and things were fairly good here. Free thinking people knew a group expressing their views did not imply they had to hold them. This way of life occurred from the government down to local events such as praying before a game. They prayed in congress, in football games, in general wherever they felt it was appropriate. Hell is all around us with violence and hard times coming in from all sides. This is the evidence of your way and I much prefer my way, the way it was for the first 200 years and more in America. You people have twisted everything and we are spiraling down into desolation, violence, poverty, and tyranny.
  
  My way, the original way was good.
  
  Your way sucks.
  
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- RebelPatriot
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:55am
  The law was written to keep government out of Church, hence Churches pay no taxes. The Churches are to be left alone. Not made to buy contraceptives for it’s followers or employees.
  
  So either get your socialist sucking the life out of the people government out of our lives, or we will show you turds just what happens when totalitarism gets out of hand in America.
  
  We paid for it with our taxes, it is a public place and as citizens the children have a right to express themselves. The building is owned by American citizens, not the government. The government didn’t build it, the tax payers did. All the government did is provide the process for which it came about, i.e. give the contract to the local union contractors.
  
  Suck my toes and fingers, kiss my elbows and feet. If they don’t want to read it don’t, if they don’t want to pray don’t listen.
  
  If these parents were smart they would pull their kids out of this school and place them in a local Christian school where they would recieve no indoctrination to slavery and a much better education. They would also be allowed to freely express themselves at all events.
  
  You atheist, socialist fruit baskets can kiss my kneecaps and suck my earlobes until the cows come home and sit on your face.
  
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- RebelPatriot
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:14am
  If it cuts both ways this means your stupid ears need to turn off when we begin praying and when we write a bible verse on a banner you need to close your little froggy eyes if you don’t want to see it.
  
  What they should do is right after the National Anthem is played by the band, the crowd should recite the Lord’s prayer in unison without direction from anyone from the school.
  
  And all you socialist/liberal armpit sucking non believers can close your little ears and eyes so not to get influenced by the actions of those expressing their faith that you don’t believe in.
  
  It’s amazing to me how intimidated you toad sucking finger licking atheist/socialist are by a God you don’t believe in. So much so that you fight tooth and nail to have it removed from any event you possibly can.
  
  Contrary to belief, government didn’t build this nation, Christians did. If you don’t like it I’m sorry. Do like my forefathers did and find a place you can be happy. This land is our land and by the grace of God we have allowed you to exist in it, but it’s high time we placed you non believing nose sucking atheist/socialist/liberals on a train to Mexico. When you get down there you be sure to tell the cartels how much you don’t appreciate them killing people in the streets and threatening to take your wife and children from you and raping and killing them.
  
  See how accomodating to your feelings a country that has very little faith in God has for your Cow Manure attitudes
  
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- TeresaJ
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:17am
  @ Little Johnny:
  
  The coach isn’t forcing anything. This is student led. This case blows wide open that it has never been about “anti-discrimination” on the part of the government. Atheists just want God removed, period.
  
  The “what if they were” argument is getting tiresome. How many who make this argument are actually Muslim? If you are Hindu or Muslim, fine. Otherwise, be quiet. As I have said time and again, they have just as much right as any other faith. If they want to make an encouraging sign for the team based on their faith, then do so. Atheists are the ones making an issue, not people of faith (based off the fact that it is an atheist organization going around the country attacking religious freedom).
  
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- Danimal98367
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:58am
  @Rebelpatriot
  
  Congrats, you would make a great jihadist or crusade squire.
  
  Your comment about “we will use the school preach and you can suck it” embodies the hatred of all religions.
  
  You are why I fight. I have little tolerance anymore for overtly religious people because the moment I say stop using my tax dollars to preach, I get told to bend over and take Jesus up the rear.
  
  I wish the sign read “Praise Allah” like it could in Michigan. Love to see you say “yeah, and shut up atheists, I want my taxes to pay for that!”
  
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- Cavy2see
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:55pm
  We do not make people go to church before a game … just a few signs…wow…that will change someone who hates God…wow…not…the heart of man must understand the love…not the forcing of people to believe…but on the other side…drinking and other debase things at some games is better? that is a question we must think about?? at least these kids are kind, and want to help others to believe…in something more than just themselves…God made us in his likeness is wonderful…is that awful to believe? We are to strive for good…life is hard enough…and religious fatith is not a fairy tale…the fairy tales came about after many centries (even in anciet times) when there was no tv…radio…ipod…computer, etc. I guess the big bang is what is better? how can happenstance be the way? one day when we die we will find out for sure…I pray that we shall meet there to remember our lives how graced we were to believe…time to God is eternity…not our clock on the wall…
  
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ProbIemSoIver
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:14am
BILL of RIGHTS

Article I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the the people to peaceably assemble, and to petition he government for a redress of grievances.

More than likely, the school district is a private company and can be sued.

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- ProbIemSoIver
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:19am
  I don’t Talk B.S.
  
  “Kountz Independent School Dist in Kountze, TX is a PRIVATE COMPANY categorized under Schools. Register for free to see additional information such as annual revenue and employment figures.”
  
  http://www.manta.com/c/mm6gsn2/kountz-independent-school-dist
  
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- NewLife56
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:28am
  Exactly..good post
  
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- encinom
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:27am
  Sorry, its still a public school and an agent of the State Government funded by tax payer dollars. Such displays violate the Establishment Clause. I guess you only like the parts of the Constitution you agree with.
  
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- AdmiralQ
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:41am
  Enc, the establisment clause is the government making a Church of America like the church of England that was the intent of the Founding Fathers, some the first colonist came here to escape religious persecution. Understand the intent of the Bill of Rights. e cheerleaders are forcing anyone to do anything. If they don’t want to read the banner then DON’T READ IT.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:13am
  The problem with this debate, is that the average Beckerhead’s research stops when Barton stop speaking. The truth is that the jurisprudence that surrounds the Establishment Clause, that control what the Clause means and how it is enforced, clearly demonstrated that this is a violation of the Constitution. Beckerheads, to stupid to research the issue outside of the Beck approved reading list do not accept the truth about the law.
  
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- Danimal98367
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 12:16pm
  @AdmiralQ
  
  So you’re fine with your federal education tax dollars being spent on a school banner that says “Allah is King”, made by the cheerleading squad and held up by the school cheerleaders as the school’s banner? If you say no, then you are a hypocrite.
  
  These banners are paid for with my tax money. That is unacceptable.
  
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- PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 12:17pm
  @PROBIEMSOIVER thanks for the link…great follow up to http://www.reality-bytes.hubpages.com/hub/The-Corporation-Of-The-United-States-Of America The BUSH family are about as EVIL as they come.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KeR3yMZi0g%feature=related Why JFK was killed.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6j7QF0BUo&feature=related Bush was there in Dallas
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48V41HqlyRw&feature=endscreen&NR=1 1991 Bush speech
  
  We are so deceived. May they all burn in hell fires for eternity. And the lies continue and get bigger and bigger and more twisted to cover each lie told. Until we have the unimaginable situation of today.
  
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- ProbIemSoIver
  Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:19am
  @PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
  
  Thx for your great links, also.
  
  Take notice as to how simular the Google “G” is to the masonic “G”
  
  I believe JFK’s assasination also had a lot to do with E.O. 11110.
  But this speech was also damaging to the Illuminati. I never heard the full speech until now.
  After learning what I have learned over the past 2-3 years, JFK’s speech is understood, crystal clear.
  It is a vital key to the truth.
  Eisenhower also warned us, of the Military Industrial Complex.
  
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piper60
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:06am
As per usual, the school administration is running away from the issue with their tail tucked firmly between their collective legs. What a bunch of cowards.

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- starman70
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:30am
  The Supreme court ruled that GOVERNMENT SPONSORED religious exercises were unacceptable. However, STUDENT LED prayers and religious displays are legal.
  
  This school district is not even anywhere close to being right. Obviously, they are a bunch of fraidy cats and pu**ys who don’t have any guts whatsoever.
  
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RaydocX
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:02am
Uhm , IMHO, limiting students from bringing / displaying ‘religious banners’ NOT sponsored by the school is not a violation of the Constitution… In fact, it is limiting/ abridging the student’s Constitutionally guaranteed right to the free practice of speech and religion…

Where is the ACLU championing the minority rudest right?!

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- Nepenthe
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:56am
  But this banner is sponsored by the school since the cheerleaders are direct representatives of the school district. The display of this banner effectively tells the community that the school if officially endorsing the Christian faith and all other beliefs will not be given equal status as such.
  
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cykonas
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:54am
I’m not worried about this. Good Texans will take care of this idiotic policy. I have no doubt at all.

On a larger scale we need to get the Feds and the States out of Education and return it to local control. That won’t fix everything but the schools will become more accountable for sure. Peace.

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teddyc73
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:34am
The formula has pretty much been established….Town, school, organization has a tradition that involves something religious (almost always Christian), a complaint is sent to an anti-religion group with deep pockets (usually by one person), the anti-religion group sends a letter demanding the tradition stop citing a bunch of distorted interpretations of the constitution and containing threats of legal action, the Town, school, organization shuts down the tradition right way from fear of lawsuits. The end.

We Christians sure are a bunch of spineless wimps sometimes. We let these groups do this to us time and time again. We’re loosing the battle.

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Cosmos102
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:25am
I bet they would be allowed to hang that obnoxious and abominable Obama flag. Shame on you, Texans!

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watashbuddyfriend
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:18am
And, he said: “…And I was advised that that such a practice (religious signs) would be in direct violation of United State Supreme Court decisions….”

Don’t you think it is time to amend the Constitution to limit the term of the United State Supreme Court to, AFTER EIGHT, MUST VACATE, or less, if a Member does not support the Constitution?

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- ProbIemSoIver
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:55am
  I don’t understand why the school district can not be sued for violating the 1st Amendment rights of the squad.
  You are allowed to practice whatever faith you believe in, AND you are allowed to talk about it and display it, etc.
  According to the Constitution, You are allow to do WHATEVER YOU WANT provided you don’t Violate the Rights of another Human Being. It is That simple.
  
  Being “offended” is NOT a violation of one’s RIGHTS !!!!!
  
  There is No favortism under the Constitution. We are all CREATED equal !!!!
  
  That does not mean the Government is obligated to maintain one’s Financial Equality !!!!
  
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- kpeters59
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:15am
  Buddy. The problem I see with the 8 year limit, is that then somebody else will be put in. And they’re as likely as not to be worse.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:30am
  ProbIemSoIver
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:55am
  
  I don’t understand why the school district can not be sued for violating the 1st Amendment rights of the squad.
  _________________
  Because no rights were violated. The banner violated the Establishment Clause.
  
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- AdmiralQ
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:44am
  not term limit, just a clearer way to remove them when they go to far
  
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- Git-R-Done
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:08am
  Encinom – Says the Marxist who wants to eradicate freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Establishment clause is something that you Marxists made up so that you can achieve your goals of eradicating both.
  
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BrutalTruth
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:16am
Your Religion represents your world-view. If these signs are inappropriate, then any sign with any words would be also, as they would be representative of a world-view.

What atheists don’t understand is their world-view is also a Religion.

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- watashbuddyfriend
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:23am
  @ BrutalTruth
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:16am
  
  But Brutal, I am a Christian, and I do not subscribe to any religion! CHRISTIANITY is a relationship with Jesus Christ, and religion is a relationship with Satan! Come join me.
  
  Lord Jesus, who is that last believer that will complete the Church? I am selfish, bring that person; COME EARLY!
  
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- IslandAtheist
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:35am
  Exactly, that’s why our schools must remain neutral., and show no respect for the establishment of either view.
  
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- Git-R-Done
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:13am
  Islandatheist – Yet it’s ok for you sickos to shove your Marxism down our throats. Excuse me if we have freedom of speech and freedom of religion and we can express it anywhere we want. Not just wherever you Marxists tell us where we can and can’t.
  
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- IslandAtheist
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:52am
  It’s Christian superstition that’s being pushed.
  
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- Git-R-Done
  Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:04am
  Islandatheist – You mean you Marxists aren’t pushing your atheist agenda down this country’s throat by forcing businesses to provide birth control against their will?
  
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Texan832
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:08am
There are three things in TEXAS you dont Eff with,,,EVER.
1 GOD
2 Football
3 Guns
the atheists took on two of the three. In a region of the state that is smack dab in the middle of the Bible Belt,,,yeah this is gonna end badly.

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- watashbuddyfriend
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:32am
  @ Texan832
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:08am
  
  “There are three things in TEXAS you dont Eff with,,,EVER.”
  
  There, in Houston, TX, you can find a Church that teaches THE TRUTH, Bible Doctrine. There are off-shoots of this Chruch in those States, in the Bible Belt, who have a population of at least 100-thousand.
  
  In those States where religion is taught, you will find many churches.
  
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- Texan832
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 10:59am
  Actually if you would like I would be more than happy to debate Biblical truth with you. My original post was tongue in cheek. IM sorry you misunderstand.
  
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watashbuddyfriend
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:07am
What do you do with someone who does not want to follow the Constitution? You deport them, or you… (give me your best recommendations)?

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- texastommy
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:03am
  Appoint them to the Supreme Court.
  
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- Texan832
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:23am
  Apparently they get elected to the presidency.
  
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- TeresaJ
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 1:06pm
  “Appoint them to the Supreme Court.”
  
  “Apparently they get elected to the presidency.”
  
  Shazam! What do they win, Captain America? A lifetime supply of Communism! No God! No free speech! No free enterprise!
  
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Comeandtakeit
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:03am
How much better off the country would be if we had MORE young people standing up for something like this instead of “occupying wall street”. GOOD for the kids of Kountze!

And if they ban the signs, I have two words for them:
TEE SHIRTS!

Nd how about car signs?

What is it coming to next? Are Christians going to have to go back to identifying each other by drawing a fish symbol quietly when they meet?

ENOUGH already.

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AJAYW
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:01am
You can dam sure bet if it was a ban on Muslims banners, obama would have holder all over the school district. To them its alright to say and do what you want against Christians, but you better bow to the muslim slimeballs,

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- IslandAtheist
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:25am
  If Texans like Jesus more than Thomas Jefferson, maybe they should move to the middle east.
  
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- AJAYW
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:38am
  IslandAtheist
  Maybe you should move your stupid liberal back side over there. See how long you last before your head gets removed.
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:42am
  If you like Thomas Jefferson, chances are that you’re a fan of Jesus’ teachings too. Both very wise, enlightened men.
  
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- Git-R-Done
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:13am
  Islandatheist – You should move to North Korea if you have a problem with Christians expressing their freedom of religion.
  
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CaveDweller
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 7:59am
One of the schools will put some immigrant kid named Jesús in at quarterback – watch the sparks fly then!

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- AJAYW
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:06am
  They will make him change his name.
  
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- Mannamomof4
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:36am
  Or maybe translate a Bible verse into Arabic! Sorry, I’m feeling feisty today. :-)
  
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Alternative_Thought
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 7:59am
And again the Godly are sooooo brave and make a tucked tail retreat…..

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thetruthlives
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 7:58am
the non-believers are doomed. I am sick of bowing to the vocal minority. If Christian symbolism offends, or damages you, it can be avoided by not going to the game. Get a life.

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- Sosorryforyou
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 12:20pm
  And I thought you all were ready to lay down your lives to defend the Constitution. Well, how would you feel if at the next game, the cheerleaders held up a quote from the Koran or some other Islamic symbol. It would be the Christians screaming then. No – separation of church an state is the right thing for this Country. The cheerleaders represent the school, and thus cannot promote any religious views while they are representing their public school, as per U.S. Supreme Court ruling and the Constitutional Amendment 14. If they were just sitting in the stands and were waving a banner or praying, while not representing the school, then they are free to do this, but not while they are students representing their school.
  
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Cajun83
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 7:57am
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

That is all.

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- Cherbear
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 8:36am
  My first thoughts exactly; freedom of speech! I do agree with another poster, T-shirts.
  
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bree001
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 7:55am
No judge can tell them they cannot do this it is unconstitutional and they are not above the constitution. Keep doing what your doing and fight for God.

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momrules
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 7:51am
No, it is not a war of football, it is a war on God and Christians.

The 33,100 people who have signed up to support the Kounze High School students are fighting back. You can bet that there are 33,100 prayers plus one ( mine ) going to God asking that He bless these students as they make a stand against the God haters.

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wisehiney
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 7:51am
They don’t have enough lawyers to sue us all at the same time. Besides, every good footballer knows defense is just half the game. Go get ‘em Texas!

There was an old rooster,
Sitting on a fence,
The rooster loved Kountze,
‘Cause he had good sense!

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- Wango
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:19am
  No, that rooster loved “cheerleaders in the city of Kountze”
  
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Gregb
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 7:47am
this is really sad. Everyone needs to show up at the games with Christian banners. It is amazing how one democrat can destroy free speech for everyone.

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toiletclogga
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 7:37am
Looks to me like “the free exercise thereof!” What’s the problem?

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- DagneyT
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 7:59am
  The founders wanted freedom OF religion, but liberal whack jobs only see freedom FROM religion! We are guaranteed the RIGHT TO EXPRESS, and we should ignore all of those who say differently! If they’re ‘offended’, go home, close their eyes, or do what we’re doing: ignore the other side!
  
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- Wango
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:22am
  Tell you what, invite the cheerleaders down to your local Chik Fil A and they can wave all the Jesus banners they want. Don’t do it in the schools. We’ve been over this, as has the Supreme Court. You don’t like it? Sue or pass a law. Otherwise, STFU and quit whining like a teen cheerleader. Good god you people are insufferable.
  
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- Nepenthe
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:51am
  So then equal opportunity is given to all faith groups to display a flag of their belief on field?
  
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- Just_Us2
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:02am
  Wango sounds mad, as a sex offender he is banned from school campus.
  
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- Git-R-Done
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:09am
  Wacko – Spoken like a true Marxist who hates freedom of speech and freedom of religion.
  
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- Atrain1966
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:54am
  Wango: I have a solution for you. Hit the little power button on your computer.
  
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Delores at CH WV
Posted on September 20, 2012 at 7:37am
WoW! I hope the Adults get a look at this one.
When it takes the children to stand up for Freedom of Speech, the Adults need to hang their heads in shame! Thank God for the Children to lead this country; the men and women won’t do it!

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- Nepenthe
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 9:50am
  Well, that would be true if this was actually a free speech issue.
  
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- Git-R-Done
  Posted on September 20, 2012 at 11:14am
  Nepenthe – It is a freedom of speech issue. We can express ourselves wherever we want. Not just wherever you Marxists tell us.
  
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