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79-Year-Old Disabled Vet Facing Jail Time for Having Junk in His Front Yard That He Fixes Up to Support His Wife

Sep. 21, 2012 3:39pm
John Ramsey Rock Hill Herald junk front yard

John Ramsey of Clover, S.C. is facing jail time for being unable to pay a $500 fine for having junk in his front yard. (Image source: Rock Hill Herald)

Editor’s note: See update below.

A 79-year-old disabled veteran is facing one month in jail for having too much junk in his front yard — junk that he fixes up and sells in order to keep his home and buy medicine for his wife, the Rock Hill Herald reported.

John Ramsey was first convicted in January of keeping junk in his front yard, a misdemeanor offense in the small rural town of Clover, S.C. He was ordered to clean it up, or face 30 days in jail. He cleaned it up.

But last month, the court ruled Ramsey’s cleanup effort wasn’t good enough. He was held in contempt and given two weeks to pay $500. Ramsey — living on $898 a month in Social Security and veterans benefits — didn’t have $500, so when the deadline passed he went to the police department to turn himself in. Instead, town officials told him he had a hearing on Monday to determine whether he should go to jail for being unable to pay his fine.

“They are gonna give me 30 days,” Ramsey told the Herald. “For junk.”

According to the newspaper, the Korean War veteran collects anything he can, including washing machines, bricks and wood, and strips it down to sell. The money goes toward paying utilities for his home and keeping his wife — also disabled — alive. He got rid of the washing machines and other items during his cleanup, and the bricks and wood are neatly stacked. A fence is currently under construction to shield everything from view. Ramsey’s building it himself.

“Ain’t got a dollar to pay fines; I sure ain’t got money to pay nobody,” he said.

No neighbors have complained to the town about Ramsey’s yard, the Herald reported, and it seems the only person bothered by it is the town’s code officer who started the proceedings in the first place. Ramsey’s public defender tried unsuccessfully to argue that the town’s law about keeping junk was vague, but a jury was not swayed.

“Johnny doesn’t bother nobody,” neighbor Wendy Christopher told the newspaper. “I don’t know what the big deal is for this town. You can’t see what he has on the other side.”

His grass is kept neat and trimmed, and there are rocking horses and a miniature carousel on the lawn for children to play with. According to the Herald, Ramsey is a former Ku Klux Klansman who was convicted of burning a cross on the former police chief’s front yard. The conviction was later overturned; Ramsey said he took the fall for two others and is reformed. He flies his neighbors’ Mexican flag on his flag pole, along with his American flag.

Ramsey has one son serving in Afghanistan, and Ramsey himself wears a special orthopedic shoe because of a leg injury he sustained in Korea. He said he was told that he would have to wear sandals if he goes to jail — not the shoe, which is paid for by veterans benefits.

“They want to put my husband in jail for trying to help his family,” Patty Ramsey said.

Update: The Rock Hill Herald reported Friday afternoon that Ramsey’s court hearing has been postponed until October:

The Town of Clover court has rescheduled a contempt of court hearing for the 79-year old Clover man who was scheduled to appear in court Monday and potentially faces 30 days of jail time for not cleaning up his yard.

Patty Ramsey, wife of John Ramsey, said Friday afternoon that police hand-delivered a new summons to Ramsey that changed his court date to October.

(H/T: Fark)

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  • John Atreides
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:23pm

    Is there a link so I can send this guys some money?

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    • JAMACAMECRAZYMAN
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:28pm

      I’ll send some also.

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    • DarkJello
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:30pm

      Would you like an IRS link? Oh, wait!! That only works if he refuses to do anything but hold out his empty hand all day.

      Gooberment is so great! /sarcasm.

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      DarkJello  
    • John Atreides
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:30pm

      Dear blaze… these stories are great.
      Since most of us do not believe in government aid, we try to give to those in need when we see it.
      Could you please let us know where we can donate to help in situations like this?
      I know I could spare $5 and so could many others. :)
      Love = Personal Charity

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    • sparkyrules
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:44pm

      The Blaze.Can the Action Center help out here?

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    • antiprogressive
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:47pm

      gimme a link.
      I got 100 bucks ready to go.
      I got a lot of respect for him and his family.
      True American’s that have paid MORE than their dues to the country and are now on hard times.

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    • randy
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:55pm

      I suggest we swamp Mr. Charlie Dixon with an inbox full of emails or a phone call.
      I just did!

      Mr. ChHarlie Dixon….Code Enforcement Officer for the town of CLover, NC
      803-222-5158 cdixon@cloversc.org

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    • buttpatriot
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 5:05pm

      another 47%er. the victim aint worth romneys time

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    • John Atreides
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 5:15pm

      ^^^^^ Typical sarcastic socialist troll.
      but the truth is, that if he isn’t paying the tax, then Romney’s message of lower taxes is not relevant to him. so Romney’s comment still stands.
      please don’t hijack this thread. The republicans you hate are going to donate to this man without government aid. and more because of your comment.
      I am now donating $10 !! hahaha

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    • shybynature31
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 5:16pm

      Someone could go to http://www.giveforward.com and set up a donations website for this man if they had all the pertinent information. I would give as well.

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    • Absalom
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 5:22pm

      I would donate as well. We need a link or means to assist this forgotten hero.

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    • trinklefinder
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 5:26pm

      id be willing to send one weeks tithe a month until he or i croaks. bullied grandma got quarter mil, but ronald poppo got like 15 grand! id totally help this guy. how can we do it?

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    • JustMel71
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 5:50pm

      What a great idea. If anyone sets up an account or someone uses their paypal, count me in for $5. This story is heartbreaking and I hope we can help out Mr. Ramsey. I’ll check back later to see if something is setup. God bless.

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    • Individualism
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 5:53pm

      Jury Nullification use it. just say not guilty, people need to do that.

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    • Kisha
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 6:09pm

      Gosh dang!!! I’d send him money too! That is if I could afford my family’s basic needs in this economy! But if anyone can, I’d encourage it completely! Send him the money and a few extra bucks for “Christ’s sake!” God Bless! Keep the government out of your life, FOR GOOD! I hope that he wins and they relent. The bigger the stink the people make about it, the more likely the judge/powers will look the other way. Then again it could ignite it worse. So be careful!

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    • Kenszen
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 7:28pm

      Changing the court date to October sounds like the city has gotten swamped with emails and phone calls–IOW bad publicity–so they want it to die down before the hearing.

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    • Wolfgang the Gray
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 7:40pm

      I’m sure willing to help out Mr. Ramsey. I can’t believe the crap that our govt does to people that served this country and are just trying to get by. Post a link and I’ll chip in.

      Mr. Dixon, Code Enforcement Officer, who filed the complaint himself, seems to have a stump up his arse. I wonder if he kicks puppies while he is out on his rounds?

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    • Gino
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 7:56pm

      if anyone wants to join me in asking the mayor if there is a good reason for this kind of treatment to our vets.
      Donnie Grice, Mayor
      112 Ridge Avenue
      Clover, SC 29710
      803.222.4374
      dgrice@cloversc.org

      http://www.cloversc.org/pView.aspx?id=13117&catid=291

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    • NOT A CRAZY
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 8:41pm

      Did you all read the article? No one cares that this guy is flying the Mexican flag on his property? I wouldn’t give him a dime after reading “He flies his neighbors’ Mexican flag on his flag pole, along with his American flag.” I would like to take a dump on a Mexican flag.

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    • Autigermom
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 8:49pm

      It was pretty easy to get his address by doing a white pages search. John L Ramsey ( and Patricia). Confirmed address via maps street view.

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    • Tacinet7
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 8:49pm

      Shame on the town of Clover. Their website says that they are “The town with LOVE in the middle”.
      Yeah Right!
      If I new of a place to donate to this veteran, I would. God bless John Ramsey.

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    • Autigermom
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 9:47pm

      A simple search of “white pages” provided me with his address. Just to be sure, I verified via maps street view.

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    • Wool-Free Vision
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 12:47am

      I’d bet dollars to donuts that “town’s code officer who started the proceedings in the first place” didn’t appreciate the old timer flying “his neighbors’ Mexican flag on his flag pole, along with his American flag.”

      Might want to be careful which bandwagon you jump on if it’s gonna run all over some previous position position you were loud and proud about. I’m not pointing fingers here, I’m just sayin’. We’re only getting one side of this story, and it could very well be that the town of Clover has another side entirely.

      All that being said, y’all noticed that this is a trailer park we’re talking about, right? Or at least, what I see in the photo doesn’t really look like it’s on a golf course of anything. If the man lives in a mobile home, SURELY that yard shown is good enough to pass muster.

      I bet this is all a bunch of bluster on all sides of the issue.

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    • Wool-Free Vision
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 12:51am

      By the way, I think that address that Gino put up might be wrong. Look at Google Maps:

      http://goo.gl/maps/kFK80

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    • KrisW1
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 1:01am

      Better to go to the website of the city and demand the city vacate the fine and leave Mr. and Mrs. Ramsey alone! If a fine is paid it will just be given out again and again and again. The Ramseys need to be respected and treated with dignity and common courtesy anyone their age and experience deserves.

      http://www.cloversc.org/pView.aspx?id=13117&catid=291

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    • maverick4harlot
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 5:36am

      I am one of the biggest ******** alive but I would like to give a few bucks to this guy. I can only do so through Pay Pal though. Help me to help him. PLEASE?

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    • maverick4harlot
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 5:40am

      Look I dont like Pay Pal either but it is easy. I want to send a few dollars to this guy. My bank account is nothing but my Pay Pal has a few dollars I can spare. Help me help him. Serious.

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    • maverick4harlot
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 5:43am

      Autigermom
      How do I know for sure that when I send money by mail that the Sherrif hasnt already kicked them out????

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    • maverick4harlot
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 5:56am

      Personally if I lived in this mans neighborhood the Sheriff wouldnt be allowed into the neighborhood AT ALL. How exactly would they stop me from stopping them. I dont ask permission, you look at me and say I cannot do it, GOOD FOR YOU, now get out of my face. I dont play. Screw the world. Screw the law. I defend the defenseless. If you even try to fight me well I promise just go away, otherwise I cannot promise your safety. I am not joking. I will defend the defenseless and you had better just watch. Please dont argue with me because I truly dont want to hurt you. I really dont. If you however should choose to side with those that would attack the defenseless, I will give you one more warning. RUN. Otherwise I dont give a sheet what happens to you. Cry and beg in pain for days and weeks and it wont mean a DAMN to me. Treat the elderly with respect. I SAID SO. You think I am soft hearted, you aint met me yet. AND YOU DONT WANT TO. YES THATS A THREAT. Treat the elderly with respect. Or get to know me very well. Maybe you even get to know your bones, you will get to meet them, as I force them from your body you’ll get to see them. RESPECT YOUR ELDERS. IT’S NOT A REQUEST.

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    • maverick4harlot
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 6:25am

      Truthfully while I will send money to help this man I personally think that the money will help to perpetuate the problem. Personally what I would like to see is 10,000 people walking into the court room and TELLING the judge what his decision is. This man put his life on the line for this country and all of us, WHY IS IT WE ARE NOT WILLING TO DO THE SAME FOR HIM IN HIS TIME OF NEED? WE are the people, WE make the laws, WE tell the judges yes or no, WE have become scared. WE should be ashamed of ourselves if we are to scared to stand up for a man that stood up for us. Please explain exactly how I am wrong. If as Americans we cannot walk into this one court room an TELL the judge our decision, how in the hell are we ever going to straighten out the entire federal government. If we are to damn scared to start small then we should all just give up. I ask you are you an American or a coward?

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    • Gorp
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 7:16am

      It would be nice to set up a fund for him and a petition to get rid of the town’s code officer.

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    • lordjosh
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:45am

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ4c5atUjsE&feature=g-vrec

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    • antiprogressive
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 1:17pm

      As referred to above, white pages states:

      John L Ramsey

      (803) 222-5000

      200 Leaf Ct

      Clover, SC 29710-9601

      for an address.

      Patricia Ramsey is also listed at the same address.
      That’s the best I can do for connecting to them.
      Would require a paper check (or cash) in an envelope.
      Not a very modern method but it’s all I got…
      The neighbor, Wendy Christopher, is also listed in white pages and the map
      shows her street directly behind him, possibly with connecting back yards.

      I called BOTH numbers to verify the accuracy of the address but got no answer at either.
      A voice mailbox for Wendy…
      It’s quite likely he had to unplug the phone after this story got out.
      If someone can VERIFY the address to be accurate,
      I’ll do the paper check…

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    • Shanghai_Dave
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 1:40pm

      To all: I spent over an hour on the phone with Mr. Ramsey this morning. I also called one of his neighbors and they spoke very highly of this man. Some info. to help clear things up. Mr. Ramsey did tell me that he was involved with the KKK many years ago. That was then and this in now. What his past has to do with this situation is beyond me. From the pics I see online and from his neighbors comments, the place is in pretty good shape. Indeed there are “NO”, formal complaints. He is okay with his address and information being posted here. I put a check in the mail to him and his wife this a.m. John Lewis Ramsey. 200 Leaf Court Clover South Carolina 29710 The code enforcement officer is Joe Funderburk. According to “Zoom Info”, he is the owner of a 10 – 25 million dollar a year company. Alpha and Omega home inspections LLC. Perhaps the company name “alpha & omega”,is ironic? Once we begin to screw with you, it’s the end! :) The story was inspired by Channel 9 & 36. There is also a news article by Andrew Dys. Mr. Ramsey told me that the media and local police department have been very kind to him and his wife. He indicates that the issue is with Mr. Funderburk, the Judge, & $500.00 fine. I have emailed each one of the people identified in the article and hope that they will simply come to their senses and leave the man alone. A few people in the Clover area, they tell me that the streets and surrounding area of Clover are littered and trashy. Ama

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    • antiprogressive
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 3:05pm

      thanks Dave.
      Check going out today.
      Hope others are still following this story…

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    • desertspeaks
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 3:23pm

      The code enforcement officer Joe Funderburk has a wonderful business @ http://www.aohomeinspection.com/ His contact information is Contact Information

      Telephone
      704-351-1776 (cell)
      Call us 7 days a week. No calls after 10:00 p.m. please
      Postal address
      2992 Howell’s Ferry Rd.
      Hickory Grove, SC 29717
      Electronic mail
      Inspector: joe@aohomeinspection.com

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    • spenegdt
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 7:11pm

      @ BUTTPATRIOT
      With a name like that I can just see you being a 50 year old pathetic little man sitting in your Moms basement in your underwear picking your nose and wiping the buggers on you filthy little laptop keyboard while while trolling around on The Blaze trying to think of something clever to say. Go play on another site because your showing just how ignorant and clueless you socialists libs are.

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    • PelositheGreat
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 7:15pm

      Yes, it is http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/238237?a=834912

      thank you

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    • PelositheGreat
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 7:50pm

      Please help spread the word for the John Ramsey donation site!

      http://igg.me/p/238237?a=834912

      Thank you!

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    • NavyVet66
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:19pm

      You can use this link If you want to give,

      http://www.giveforward.com/79yearolddisabledveteranjohnramsey

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    • Talent-Keyhole
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:23pm

      What needs to be done here is to find the name and address of the “inspector” and then investigate to see iwhere the animosity comes from. Perhaps an old feud? Also, the ACLU should look into this as discriminatory activity by the local government; as disabled he is part of a Protected Class. Now of course, the ACLU would touch this with a ten-foot pole because he is obviously white, Christian and a military Vet. Maybe he can claim his wife is Muslim and wear a hijabber or something and then the ACLU would get involved? Ya Think???

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    • PelositheGreat
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:10pm

      http://igg.me/p/238237?a=834912

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    • SSteiner
      Posted on September 23, 2012 at 11:13pm

      Good Man :)

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  • sparkyrules
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:22pm

    Its been my observation that many people will throw all Freedom and Liberty aside when it comes to getting a paycheck.From farmers allowing expensive and electric rate raising wind turbines on their property, to local code officers, to the TSA.I’m getting a $check$ from the government,I have some power now and my loyalty to the USA Constitution and fellow Citizens ends where my wallet starts.
    Its everywhere.

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    • sparkyrules
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:41pm

      John Ramsey can be my neighbor ANYDAY! And so can Bud Johnson!And every other great American who lives in and loves the USA! I’ll take an old guy ANYDAY above the sissies and sellouts of the last 2 generations!
      Our USA military are not included in those generations,for sure.

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  • thetruthlives
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:21pm

    once again GOVCO rears its ugly head and trys to run everyones lives. put some energy in cutting spending and making things efficient you lame a** government types.

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  • moreteaplease
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:15pm

    It’s sounds like the code officer is a bored little runt, who has to find a way to legitimize his tax payer supported paycheck, so he picks out a 79 year old war veteran, who doesn’t have two nickles to rub together, trying to take care of his wife, as fair game. I say eliminate his job and give his paycheck to this guy.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:17pm

      What do you want to bet that this “code officer” is a twig-boy democrat?

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    • Jezreel
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 5:24pm

      My husband is a building official and works with code enforcement too and I know that they can bend the codes. Of course, this guy has a pathetic amount of power in his life it looks like. I bet he has a life out of control so he turns around and causes other trouble and strife because of his “power”. My husband dislikes having to work with people like that. At least where he is working now, they are not a bunch of power crazed loons.

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    • drs1969
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 8:56pm

      It’s payback for burning the cross on the former police chief’s yard.

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  • sizzler2220
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:14pm

    Find out who the sissy boy is and tar and feather him for starters.

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  • LeadNotFollow
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:14pm

    …
    In my town, mostly just White folks are forced to keep their yards neat.
    Blacks and Hispanics can have all the junk they want in their yards, including junked cars.
    This is all a part of Obama’s reverse racism, racial division plan, and war between the classes.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:23pm

      Yep, my town, too. I get hit for boards stacked neatly on the ground, because everything has to be 6 inches up off the ground, otherwise it’s a rodent hazard? Excuse me, I have more rats now that I got everything 6 inches off the ground becasue now they have somewhere to hide. I get hit for little branches sticking through my fence when the my neighbor has volunteer trees that stick into the alley, and another neighbor has boards missing in his fence so you can see his little junk pile.

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    • antiprogressive
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:52pm

      well the commissioner of “junk” would be called a RACIST if he attacked anyone other than whites.

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  • BetterInformed
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:12pm

    The sad reality ? This cr@p goes on all the time.

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    • AmazingGrace8
      Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:11am

      We “can’t fight city hall” but here is a thought….so many talented & giving “handymen” could check “the codes for the city/neighborhood” and since many people are wanting to help with $$$…maybe “you-can-build-it”….a garage/shed…on his property….”keep his items and for that matter this GREAT PATRIOT be “sheltered-from-the-storms”.
      God Bless Us Everyone.

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  • FaithfulFriend
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:11pm

    Better yet… here’s the city’s report a concern form. I’m concerned the city government is a bunch of slubs: http://www.cloversc.org/forms.aspx?fid=467&rid=20

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  • yosemitefan
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:07pm

    We the people need to bring back tar & feathers for these little tin horn city employees. They get an ounce of power and turn into gestapo thugs. We need to remind them they work for Us and the idiot judge needs to be voted out.

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  • sparkyrules
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:05pm

    How can I help this Good man financially?If anyone knows of a website to donate to,for him, I’d appreciate it.

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  • YANKEE BRAT
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:05pm

    Sounds like the code enforcement officer is trying to drum up some “job security” to justify their position. If that is a recent picture of that man’s front yard, then I really can’t understand what all the fuss is about. Wouldn’t it be better for the city to try and help this guy by organizing a volunteer group to help him “clean up” his yard or, better yet, collect some donations to build him a garage to work in?

    The city of Clover certainly has their fair share of idiots working in the city/county government!

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  • afishfarted
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:02pm

    I don’t wanna go all conspiacy theory here, but if this disabled man has been doing this all the time he’s been disabled, I gotta wonder if ICLEI is involved with local ordances here. I’ve seen too many cases where aproperty owner has not change their personal practices for decades, then all of a sudden when a city signs an ICLEI contract, crap like this happens. LEAVE A MAN TO DO WITH HIS PERSONAL PROPERTY AS HE WISHES !! Especially when the entore neighborhood is aware of his situation and doesn’t complain !!!
    And CHUCK, you’re right–who reported the KK thing, and what does that have to do with the issue at hand?!?!

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  • right-wing-waco
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:01pm

    So how do we take up a collection to help him take care of themselves?

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  • lessoneleg
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:00pm

    Not to dump on the guy, but there are rules for Subdivisions to protect property values. One mans washing machine is another guys ten broken down rusting out panel trucks he’s been waiting on for the past ten years to restore.
    He can rent a Storage Box and bring over items when he can attend to it in his own privacy of his closed garage door.
    I think most everybody can recall seeing one of those properties loaded with junk. And that junk never seems to go away. We also remember the stray cats in there, uncut grass and weeds. And the ever pungent stink drifting into our yards.
    I’m sorry but I’m not supporting this fella. Too many bad experiences with people hoarding junk.

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    • moreteaplease
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:31pm

      Considering his financial situation, I don’t think a storage unit of any kind is an option for him.

      What he is doing doesn’t seem to be bothering any of his neighbors. There are people who are just plain hoarders who become a nuisance and a health hazard to themselves and those around them but this guy isn’t. This is his only way to make a meager living.

      Judging by the photo, I can’t see anything that I would consider to be an eye sore either.

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    • fcbs46
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 5:51pm

      Yea Rent a storage unit, build a shop, buy some tools, hire a younger guy to work ARE YOU IN SOME KIND OF ACID TRIP

      I think most everybody can recall seeing one of those properties loaded with junk. And that junk never seems to go away. We also remember the stray cats in there, uncut grass and weeds. And the ever pungent stink drifting into our yards.
      I‘m sorry but I’m not supporting this fella. Too many bad experiences with people hoarding

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    • fedupv2
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 6:12pm

      I do not think you actually read the story and waht is going on. He is selling the stuff to make money to pay utilities and help his wife. Where in the story did you see he had enough money for a storage unit? The story also said his neighbors have no problem with his yard. Take some reading comprehension classes please.

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    • fcbs46
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 7:10pm

      I’ll bet you could do all that and more on 889 a month.
      I would like to see you make it for a month on that.

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    • Mandolin44
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 7:15pm

      Subdivision AKA Homeowner associations are communism, Plain and simple. I am so sick of people sticking their noses in other peoples lives where it does not belong….HANK SR…MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND YOU WONT BE MINDING MINE!…THATS THE AMERICAN “JOHN WAYNE” attitude that ****** off the libs the best! INDEPENDENT FROM THE GOVERNMENT….the way I see it, the government needs US working people to survive, and its time we remind them of that little fact.

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    • stumpy68
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 10:36pm

      @fcbs46
      I support two people on under 900/ mo. this man should be allowed to do whatever
      he can to support himself and his wife you’d think the the government would be behind him
      sounds like he is engaged in aggressive recycling finding new use for discarded items
      oh i forgot they dont really mean what they say 90% of the time.
      This guy needs to watch out it looks like
      the town wants to postpone things until people forget about him
      hopefully someone will shame them into dropping the charges before that happens.

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  • justangry
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:00pm

    The problem of the law is the law.. Somewhere out there are leaders that would stop this nonsense by saying “obviously you’re law didn’t consider this situation.” Leave him a lone and fix you stupid law.

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  • J.C. McGlynn
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 3:58pm

    No different than what is happening here in Philadelphia, clean up an eye sore and get fined. Do what you need to do to support yourself and go to jail. I know I am going to get yelled at but, to me, this is the nazification of the United States.

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    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:04pm

      Your complaint is valid but “Nazification”? WAY overboard. You apparently haven’t had any true “Nazi” life experiences or you’d realize how off you are.

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    • Chuck7884
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:10pm

      come on now. the man developed the land he did not own.The fact he cleaned the lot is not what the city is suing for.just because you cleaned the lot does not give you the right to add a park.give it a rest you would sue if some at there own expense cleared a spot on your land and put a park there.

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    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:39pm

      Chuck…wrong article?

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    • KarNut
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:59pm

      Maybe a coffee shop should open next door to his house?????

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    • J.C. McGlynn
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 6:40pm

      ExRepublisheep – Personally, no. My dad told me about them when I was old enough. He was a WWII veteran.
      Chuck7884 – It is not a private lot. It is owned by City now. It had a destroyed sidewalk leading to his business nextdoor. All he did was do what the City should have done.

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    • Chuck7884
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 8:08pm

      @J.C. McGlynn So if the city owns the property it is okay for a private citizen to develop it?.I would imagine the city has quite a few of these vacant lots on there land free to grab and build on.City should have cleaned it up yes I agree with you. but the man developing the land to suit his needs no.if he want’s he can buy the land just like next man then develop the lot.I’ll fight for your property rights just as fast as I would the cities property rights.

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  • floridareader
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 3:56pm

    This is outrageous!
    Make a deal with the stupid city officials: since he sells the “junk” and he actually gets money for it, give it to the city in exchange for the $500.

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  • Chris.underhill
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 3:56pm

    Mr Ramsey, i know you may not see this but i want to say first of all i prayed for you and your wife. I also want to say i want to take your place in jail. No one respects or loves our elders any more and sir i want to say I will. I will be the one to make the first move. Please lord bless the Ramsey’s. Bless them with the strength to Stand tall. lord i pray you take the burden off there shoulders. Amen.

    I don’t know these people i never heard about this till i seen it here. I live in Oklahoma I will be making phone calls as well God bless.

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  • Chuck7884
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 3:54pm

    Who reported his Klan involvement?and was it to further demonize him?guess it was to make it easier to lock him up and further separate him form any form of help. that’s is a story in of it’s self.

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    • grimmster
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:00pm

      @Chuck,
      Actually, if he “was” in the kkk, it is a non-story,and was brought up to demonize this old man.Pretty pathetic of the so called news media today.

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  • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 3:52pm

    So at what point to we grab the rifles?

    Our government makes King George look like a saint.

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    • grayling646
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:19pm

      LOL Roth…why don’t you get that started?

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:45pm

      @Gray,

      So you have no line? No amount of tyranny could drive you to act? Eternal boot licker?

      So you (or maybe you don’t) revere people who fought to the death against less but mock and laugh at people who suggest we should again for worse offenses? Makes sense.

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    • antiprogressive
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:50pm

      Some things are worth fighting for.
      And some things are worth dying for.
      Your CHARACTER decides where to draw the line.

      It IS about time for real change…

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    • TexasHunter
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 5:19pm

      ROTH I believe it is not a question of what it takes just a matter of time.. Either this country turns around 180 or there will be some severe problems. Look up Dick Morris on you tube go to the tax table if BHO is elected. This is enough to get grayling646 right beside you with his gun that I promise!

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    • grayling646
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 8:22pm

      Gee Roth. I didn’t mean to pIss you off. My point is who’s gonna start it? Obviously, it ain’t gonna be you.

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  • IsThereADifference
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 3:51pm

    I HATE this f-ing country. I piss all over it.

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  • 4xeverything
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 3:50pm

    The burden of proof is on the city. They have to prove that his belongings are in fact “junk”. I hope an attorney gets involved on his behalf (pro bono, of course). If no one around him has a problem with it then I can’t see them sending this poor man to jail. I hope he can appeal.

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    • WarMunger_Al
      Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:02pm

      Somebody should pay the code guy a visit, seems like he is out for something other than law and order.

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  • Dont-hate-on-me-2
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 3:50pm

    This is disgusting.

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  • Shoot2Stop
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 3:48pm

    Sounds like the city of Clover needs a few phone calls… http://www.cloversc.org

    .

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  • bikerdogred1
    Posted on September 21, 2012 at 3:46pm

    Somebody from this town should be horse whipped and then have a good ass beaten.

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