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Why Do They Hate Us? It’s a Pretty Long List…
- TheBlaze consults experts to glean insight into why Islamists and even a contingent of secular Muslims across the Middle East harbor such animus for America
- The reasons cited include: Anti-Semitism, U.S. drone attacks, slandering Islam, different views on personal freedom, a belief that America sides with dictators (i.e. late Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak), the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, a belief that America is raping the Middle East of its natural resources and is trying to take over the region.
With the turmoil in the Middle East reaching a fever pitch, everyday people in the U.S. have, at one point or another, likely found themselves wondering: “Why? What do Muslims abroad really have against us? Why do they hate us?”
There could hardly be a one-size fits all answer to a question (and topic) so deeply textured, but for the sake of this exercise TheBlaze has attempted to delve into what Muslims abroad claim are their key grievances against America.
Interestingly, both Islamists and secular “men on the street” in Islamic countries harbor varying degrees of resentment for America and the West, each for their own distinct reasons. Below is an examination of the most prevalent issues concerning Muslims abroad.
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Power plays and Arab nationalism
For Daniel Pipes, scholar and founder of the Middle East Forum (MEF), it boils down to one simple reason: Islamists hate America because “they believe Muslims should be in charge” and they, simply, “are not.”
The resentment, according to scholar, while most “acute” for fundamentalists is actually widespread even among Arab seculars.
Another motivation cited by experts is anti-Semitism. Take, for instance, the Palestinians. Both Hamas and Fatah have routinely waged terrorist acts but have not done so for the purpose of religious extremism. Rather, their animus is intended to justify their Arab nationalism and prop-up various acts of aggression against the Jewish State – land they seek to claim as their own.
Islamists outside the Palestinian territories will often join the anti-Israel bandwagon for purposes of Islamic solidarity and Arab unity. Again, leaders of Fatah and Hamas, while also vying for power within their own ranks, still present a unified front to the world when it comes to blaming the West and Israel for all their woes.
Raymond Ibrahim, a fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center agrees.
“Even secularists there [across the Middle East] will be anti-Israel.”
He explained that a lifetime absorbing anti-Semitic, anti-Western propaganda has shaped an entire culture’s world view.
“You can’t be born and raised in the Middle East and not be anti-Israeli,” the historian told TheBlaze in an exclusive interview.
“There no sense of responsibility. You can even talk to the most secular, intelligent, suit-and-tie guy and that is still his mentality.”
He added that Arab nationalism has “quickly morphed into an Islamist thing.”
“It’s the same hatred.”
“When something goes wrong it’s always – even when it comes to a secular Arab mentality – an Israel-U.S. ‘conspiracy.’”
Ibrahim, a Coptic Christian whose parents immigrated to the U.S. from Egypt, also explained that while not every secular Muslim in the Middle East will rise up in violence, they consider themselves above all to be Arab nationalists, thus will collectively turn a blind eye to the carnage being leveled by their more radical counterparts.
A series of U.S. “blunders?”
Salam al-Marayati, executive director of the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC), spoke to TheBlaze about Muslim perceptions of the West. He claims that a strong contingent of Muslims harbor a belief that U.S. policy is definitively “anti-Islam” and that Americans are protective of Christian and Jewish communities exclusively while remaining silent in the face Islamophobia.
Al-Marayati — perhaps best known for equating jihad with Patrick Henry’s stance on “give me liberty or give me death” — explained that Muslim views are shaped around what they consider a series of U.S. foreign policy “blunders,” including a belief that:
- The U.S. consistently supports Middle East dictators
- The U.S. “sanctions” anti-Islam propaganda
- Has controlled the natural and industrial resources of Muslim countries
- “Blindly” supports Israel against the Palestinians
- Kills Muslim civillians indiscriminately in drone attacks
- “Destroyed Iraq” in both 1991 and 2003
- Maintains a military presence throughout the Middle East
Raymond Imbrahim, a Coptic Christian best known for his translations of jihadist propaganda material in his book, The Al Qaeda Reader, also pointed to several factors that sway anti-American sentiment among Muslims, among them is a belief that:
- The West hates and is hostile towards Muslims
- The West wants to take over Middle East
- The West is stealing Islamic countries’ oil
Whether their beliefs are founded or not is irrelevant, as they are perpetuated by Muslims local and national governments and across state-run media.
FILE - This Nov. 8, 2011 file photo shows a Predator B unmanned aircraft taxis at the Naval Air Station in Corpus Christi, Texas. Credit: AP
A bad PR campaign?
Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, president of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy (AIFD), believes Arab-Muslim perceptions of America and the West are a direct result of how America is packaged in their media. He said that Muslims across the Middle East ironically still desire living in the U.S. and enjoy certain elements of Western culture but “hate American policies as they have been portrayed in the media.”
For the former U.S. Naval officer, it is “all about perceptions.” He believes America needs to do more “to promote ourselves and values in the Middle East” and refrain from appointing statesmen who he considers a “failure at…advancing a freedom agenda.”
“For a country that spends billions on campaigns inside the country, we’ve done virtually nothing to promote ourselves in the Middle East,” Jasser told TheBlaze pointedly. Otherwise, “we have been played for a fool by the Islamists” and their well-engineered, “Soviet-style” propaganda campaigns.
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A “blame America” attitude, even for internal poverty
It is perhaps prudent to note that governments of Muslim countries are no stranger to corruption, relegating their citizenry to live in a perpetual state of poverty, illiteracy and unemployment. For instance, reports indicate that the illiteracy rate in the Arab world hovers at around 35.6 percent compared with a global rate of 18 percent. Likewise, the youth unemployment rate across the Middle East is 25 percent, exceeding that “of any other region in the world,” the International Monetary Fund said in its April 2011 regional outlook for the Middle East and Central Asia. J
When the people’s discontent boils over, rather than assume responsibility, political and religious leaders across the Middle East attempt to deflect blame, thereby pointing a finger at the West. to claim that America is the genesis for all of their country’s societal ills.
Experts consulted by TheBlaze for this article claim Islamic operatives will cite any number of “reasons” to blame the West for their countries’ stagnant economies and poor living conditions, including telling the public that America has even “stolen its oil and other natural resources.”
“If you are leading a movement anathema to Western ideas and to freedom and liberty,” Jasser said, leaders in the region “must develop grievances against a common ‘enemy’ to deflect attention away from themselves.”
He said the practice engaged by Islamic leaders in countries currently experiencing upheaval is by all means “Machiavellian,” adding that the best way to prevent proponents of human rights (i.e. the U.S.) from having a voice is by discrediting them.
“They shifted the discussion from ideology to grievances,” Jasser said.
Foreign and domestic policy
According to Pipes, of the many grievances aired by Islamists, insults to their Prophet Muhammad ranks at the top of all that is verboten, followed by “Western sexual freedom” and other liberated social practices concerning faith, speech, dress, personal relationships and so on.
Pipe’s assertion echoes statements made by one of North America’s most influential clerics, Imam Mohammad Qatanani, during an interview with TheBlaze. The prominent Islamic scholar confirmed that slandering the “final” prophet will in no uncertain terms, “ever be accepted” by Muslims.
The cleric’s strong words on slander do not only apply to Islamists. Islamism, for instance, may be much more prevalent in countries like Pakistan than it is (ironically) in Iran, but mocking the Prophet Muhammad appears to be universally taboo across the Islamic world, whatever the level of a religious observance.
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U.S. answerable for all Western nations?
While both cultural and religious differences have fomented hatred for the U.S. among Muslims across the Middle East, so too has American foreign policy. Pipes, author of an array of books on Islam, dates the “tipping point” for U.S. policy to 1989 and the Ayatollah Khomeini’s edict against “The Satanic Verses” author Salman Rushdie.
The novel was said to have been inspired in part by the Prophet Muhammad and the title drew from a phenomenon in Islam dubbed the “satanic verses,” an alleged compilation of Quranic verses allowing prayers to be offered to three pagan goddesses. Polytheism is expressly forbidden in Islam, thus Islamists considered Rushdhie’s work blasphemous.
Iran’s Supreme Leader issued a fatwa — an Islamic mandate calling for a specific person to be killed — on the Indian novelist. Ironically, the argument used by Islamic clerics at the time claimed that Rushdie misused his “freedom of speech.” The author has lived under threat of death ever since and TheBlaze reported that the bounty on his head has recently been increased to $3.3 million.
“Had the West been firmer in that and the many succeeding examples,” he began, “I believe Muslims would see that they cannot intimidate us and the furor would calm down.”
How America is responsible for an Indian author who was not even in the U.S. at the time of the Satanic Verses’ release remains unclear. Still, when it comes to “blaspheming” against Islam, it seems the deeds of the entire Western world fall under America’s purview in the eyes of Islamists.
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To befriend or not to befriend (despots, that is)
Another reason a contingent of Muslims resent America, according to experts consulted by TheBlaze, is that the U.S. has “hugged…kissed and befriended” many of the world’s “worst oppressors.” While not a consensus opinion, Jasser, considered a voice of Muslim moderation, believes that referring to Hosni Mubarak as a “close friend and ally” does naught to endear Americans to Muslims abroad.
He said America can no longer operate with a mindset of choosing the “lesser of two evils” when it comes to leaders in the Middle East.
“It can’t be a linear choice between the Shah and the Ayatollah,” he said.
In terms of where America has botched its foreign policy in the Middle East, Ibrahim countered Jasser’s point, immediately condemning President Obama for throwing our “staunch ally” Mubarak under the bus. Unlike Jasser, Ibrahim believes Mubarak was an important counter-balance to Islamists in the region and explained that one of the reasons the late Egyptian president was so loathed at home was specifically because of his close ties with the U.S.
“We empowered Islamists,” Ibrahim declared. ”Same thing with Libya. Gahdafi was terrible but what’s the alternative? The same people are now attacking Americans. It is ironic to me that Libya and Egypt are the ones retaliating in such a vicious way.”
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Ibrahim also noted that if America were to step in and aid any Middle East uprising, it should have been Iran’s Green Revolution as it comprises mainly pro-Western students and other seculars seeking to free themselves from the grip of their hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei.
“We could have publicized it [Green Revolution] in the way that our media publicized the Arab Spring. I don’t remember media being fixated on the Iranians. Obama was silent. It’s so amazing, the question is ‘why?’: Why did we help the Brotherhood and not the seculars?”
He answered his own question: “Because the Islamists have infiltrated American government.”
While condemning the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood is now being engaged at the White House, Ibrahim believes there is still a window of opportunity for the U.S. to side with the secularists and other pro-West groups.
Iran's Green Revolution. (Photo Credit: AP)
TheBlaze also spoke with Larry Greenfield, a Los Angeles-based senior fellow at the American Freedom Alliance, who shared his thoughts on America’s current foreign policy as it relates to Islamic countries and what the U.S. should be doing differently.
“The left has adopted an approach of appeasement,” Greenfield, a former Naval Intelligence officer, told TheBlaze.
“Obama’s policies toward radical Islam have been to deny its existence, fail to name it or fight it effectively.”
Greenfield intensified his onslaught, criticizing ”Obama the weak” for failing to condemn the murderer of Neda Agha-Soltan — a young Iranian woman who was shot to death during a dissident protest in Iran, and for his failure to respond to the protesters’ plea: “Obama, Obama, are you with us or our tyrants?”
“Obama’s entire foreign policy of sorrow for American strength and historical global leadership for freedom has invited danger. He has dithered in Afghanistan , bowed to the Saudis and betrayed allies like Britain, Hondurus, the Czechs, Poland, and Israel and emboldens bad actors.”
In closing, Greenfield asked if the president would like to return the Nobel Peace Prize bestowed upon him “now that it is evident his strategy of appeasement has collapsed.”
The idea Greenfield put forth is that by kowtowing to those who live outside the U.S., yet who demand Americans live in accordance with their Islamic ideology — even if that ideology is anathema to American values, laws and beliefs — extremists will only become more emboldened. Thus, a foreign policy that takes a more authoritative stance when dealing with extremists who shed American blood in the name of Islam might better serve U.S. interests.
Can America do anything right?
At the end of the day, Muslims are not a monolith. Their views vary from country to country, sect to sect, culture to culture. But history would seem to indicate that, at least where Islamists are concerned, if they are not upset about one set of American, or further, Western “transgressions” they will in short order be upset about another.
Whether it is demanding the release of the “Blind Sheik,” or insisting that the Pope apologize for 2006 comments in which he criticized past Islamic “tyranny;” a Danish cartoon depicting the Prophet Muhammad, or America’s support for Israel, there may very well continue to be a thorn in Islamists’ side no matter how often America apologizes for itself or the entire Western world.
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Comments (202)
UNALIEN
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:13pmnope,
The Russian KGB/FSB is using radical Islam to take down the West and impose world socialism.
After studying this, it is crystal clear that radical Islam is being stoked by Russia. They couldn’t compete militarily and feigned retreat with perestroika only to go to a more sophisticated subversive strategy to undermine the West. The strategy,,,, ideological, institutional and cultural subversion..
It wouldn’t surprise me if KGB/FSB are stoking these recent global protests under the false guise os a video to force the US to question its value of Free Speech. This is classic Soviet propaganda and ideological subversion, attack the values of a society and promote bad things that are in the minority.
KGB trained Irans Ayatollah,
KGB established Hamas and trained Arafat, supported PLO, Rachid Khalidi was part of PLO, remember Obamas buddy…
Al Qaida number 2 was a KGB agent..
Russia has along history with Islam, in fact, Islam is very similar to Communism and Russians are descended of Islamic people…
There has been a war going on for decades but Americans haven’t realized it. Russia has used Islam to terrorize and infiltrate the west to destroy from within and it wouldn’t be a surprise if KGB were behind the 9/11 twin tower attack by using and manipulating Islamic dupes to carry it out. They manipulate ideologically those sympathetic to their goals.
The best trick the devil did,,, convince the world that he didn’t exist…
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UNALIEN
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:39pm“On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it’s important for him to give me space,” Obama said.
Medvedev “I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you .
Obama “This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.”
Medvedev promised to carry the information to Prime Minister Vladimir Putin…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSLbbyYJHXI
Now, Obama isn’t KGB, but for his entire life he has been marinated in Leftist Soviet propaganda, his ideology has been shaped.. as has many of the Western Ideological Left. They don’t realize they have been created as “useful idiots” working against their own and Americas interest. Classic Soviet subversion or “active measures”
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phillycornerboy
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:07pmthe commies have teamed with the muslims. this is the enemy from without. obama cleared the way for the caliphate and installs commie doctrine into our laws, he’s the enemy within. dead Americans and our leadedship does nothing. can you not hear the weeping of our Founding Fathers? they weep are our cowardice.
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spotcoon
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 7:10pmObama Lied
SEALs DIED !
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TADTAD
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 9:58pmI concur. The Soviet Union is behind the ALL of this and worse yet We The People let it happen.
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GrayPanther
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:42amWell said. No doubt in my mind earlier generations were trained to be militant by the USSR for subversive acts. Combine this with the mono religion of the Koran and you have the modern Muslim world. We must become energy independent from rouge states and free ourselves of senseless wars in the middle east. Romney should speak out on removing our troops from the whole theater by the end of 2013 and pledging to restore our country’s economy by lower cost dependable energy from all competing sources. We all must help elect Romney – Ryan and a conservative U S Senate on November 6th. Our future and the future of peace in the world depend on it.
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Classical Liberal
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 12:25pmYes that’s it. The people of the middle east hate us because they are to stupid to think for themselves and they have been easily brainwashed Into hatred of “our freedom” and “capitalism”
That’s about as plausible as people here in America being stupid enough to believe people hate us because the media tells us they hate our freedom or that “‘it’s a soviet conspiracy”.
Yup, there hatred has nothing to do with our imperialist foreign policy which is killing scores of Arabs every year. The blaze sure as solved this difficult puzzle of Arab hatred with this expertly crafted article. Thanks blaze!
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UNALIEN
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 1:15pmCLASSICAL LIBERAL
Wrong,,, very wrong, this is an ideological war.. a very complex multifaceted subversive long term strategy. you have to really understand KGB techniques to get this stuff. They manipulate others to act to achieve their goals. In the US their propaganda has been so effective that 90% of the demoralization is done by Americans to other Americans.
I know many muslims and they don’t HATE the west or freedom, The problem is applying over generalizations, this is s complex dynamic but the “HATE” for the West is fomented by the radical and powerful Islamic elites with the support of the Soviets.. to take down the West. ultimately, the goal is a Global socialist State aka enslavement of all.
ex KGB explains historic Muslim connection to Soviets/KGB… there is much more info out there on this stuff…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AqMCLqTRFo
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tlhonmey
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 2:59pm@ Classical Liberal
Did you read the entire article? Our meddling foreign policy was listed as one of the reasons they hate us. As was the fact that their corrupt governments restrict the free flow of information and actively blame us for *everything*, and the people foolishly trust the government to tell the truth.
It’s our freedom that their *governments* hate, because it puts the lie to everything they believe about their Allah-give right to rule. The average man on the street hates us for what he sees and is told of our actions, with much of the latter being propaganda designed to keep them mad at us instead of their own leaders.
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SibliSC
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 3:01pmS U C K S the social media authority. How is going on an civilized country to make cinema with any type of story or subject ? When it is will became a treat of world peace..
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Obama_Forward_Over_The_Cliff
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 4:41pm“Why Do They [the muslims] Hate Us?”
Why do the muslims (as opposed to arabs) hate us?
It’s the same question as why do níġgers (as opposed to blacks) hate us?
Because these haters teach their children — YES, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SIT-DOWN TEACHINGS — hatred of [fill in the blank].
And, yes, some of that hate does rub off as suspicion to the few arabs and the blacks (who haven’t been hate-washed) because they must swim in that society in their daily lives.
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Classical Liberal
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 2:04am@tlhonmey, great response. One of a handful of times a response was not angry rhetoric or verbatim.
It’s true the article mention our disastrous attempts at imperialism in the middle east among reasons they hate us, but in reality there is no need to look further than that to understand their feelings. Everything else is just garnishing on the cake.
The article also fails to look at israel in the same light as the Arab world or at least mention their misgivings towards it. Arabs view Israel as an example of European white colonialism, one of the last of its kind. They may also target them for being Jewish, but it’s because they are white westerners that have moved into what they consider Arab land that is the root of their anger. To the Arab world, wanting to kick out the Jewish state is not different from the Vietnamese efforts to remove white French colonists out of their land over a century ago.
I pray to god every day for a peaceful resolution in that region. The situation is grave, and all the people there, including the Israelis, need a miracle.
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UNALIEN
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 11:25amAnti-Colonialism is a red herring. An emotional button for the elites in a society to press. Create an outside enemy to manipulate and coalesce power. Is not globalization a version of colonialism, is not a jihad a form of colonialism. What about the Soviet empire and its promotion of Communism/Socialism globally. The Colonialism “excuse” is moral relativism.There is no greater threat to the world than the expansion of Authoritarianism and Tyranny.
If the West is trying to spread freedom and Liberty to stop Authoritarian ideologies from spreading it is considered bad. If Islam desires a Global Caliphate through cultural Jihad it is diversity,,,
This is actually Marxist techniques of propaganda aka political correctness. iInstead of rationally identifying good and evil in the world, tyranny vs liberty, people apply moral relativism and make excuses to justify emotional cliches.
So, how does Authoritarianism stop freedom and liberty from spreading globally, accuse it of Colonialism…
The West has been so indoctrinated that we can’t even admit the evil in the world… it isn’t politically correct. We are being “discriminatory” and “insensitive”..BS
I know many Muslims that have moved to the West and all say, there is no freedom in the Middle East unless you are an elite. The People don’t choose this, they are brainwashed and trapped in it.
Like Stalin manipulated Hitler into a war with Europe, the Soviets are manipulating a war between Islam and the
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Pigpen
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 2:32pmNice propaganda, theBlaze, spinning “US” as being equal to “Israel”. I especially love how the lead photo proving how much the Muslims hate “US” is a friggin’ swastika. I know how hard it must have been to find Muslims in the Middle East burning an American Flag in the stock photo library.
HOWEVER, it is YOUR proposition that the Muslims’ anti-semitism is the reason why they hate America. So, theBlaze, does this mean that you admit that America = Z.O.G. ? Because the Jews are only what tiny percent of the American population? So why would such a small portion of our population be the LEADING reason on your list of reasons why Muslims hate America? What else could be the connection between anti-semitism in the Muslim world and their hatred for America unless AMERICA IS RUN BY THE NEO-CON JEWRY? Do you admit now that even just speaking DEMOGRAPHICALLY that the Jews’ overrepresentation in our gov’t, media, and academia smacks of nepotism if not conspiracy. Forgive me if I don’t agree with you assertion that Jews are just smarter than those lazy-@ss cr@ckers like me. (The irony here, folks, is that people who say Jews’ concentration in the corridors of power is only because they are smarter are also the people who will call YOU a “racist” if you disagree!)
Hey, why are you blocking this post? The ideas in it were originally presented by you, theBlaze, by YOU!
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michael from Ga.
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:11pmMany in the Middle East know what Rothschild and Churchill did, and approved by the Pres. of the U.S. in 1948. Get over it? They will not get over it. America has installed and support Dictators. Oil is traded bsed on the dollar. Thou shalt not Covet = America is sitting on more oil than can ever be used, yet controlling other countries oil; this is the main reason for Japans attack on America during WW2. America has over 150 military bases around the world,why. Empires spread too thin, always collapse.
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Loyal Eagle
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 1:58amHistory ceases to exists prior to 1948 for some. Yes, America played a role in assisting the Jewish Nation home to the land for which they hold an ancient deed. Even the name “Jew” comes from the words Jerusalem and Judah. The name was originally slang for the Israelite tribesmen who traveled back and forth for trade. America did not create the Israelites, the Nation was created by God. I’m just pleased America was of some assistance to our elder brothers.
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RayOne
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:06pmThe CrisisObama was not thought thru. It was to be an easy win for a Community Activist with the ear of the world. The United Nations will need to redefine the rules to charge for this crime.
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heartitorleaveit
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:04pmand why should anyone care if murderers and rapists, liers and pedophiles and oppressors of women hate us?
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justangry
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 1:25pmI don’t care if those folks you mentioned hate us. I don’t think you’re sweeping generalization is accurate, those that don’t fit your racist views hate us because we’re not mind our own business.
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Chuck7884
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:03pmIt Is Strange Egyptians attack the embassies and not the tourists which would have devastating effects on one of their top industries,take western money great but anything else bad.You would think if westerners were such evil that they would’ve mobbed the tourist visiting there national treasures.
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RLTW
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:03pmMoslem have never found a balance between ancient cultural norms and the modern world they remain dependent on the colonial aspects of their past because they have a slave mentality. The angry attitude is a defense to cover up for their societal and cultural inferiority.
It is just Obama’s cultural outreach that has caused much of the strife, they don’t intend on reaching any cultural normalcy, they don’t want new ideas about rights for woman, or even democracy.
If you looked at ME history before colonization, you will find them governed /lead by despots.
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The Third Archon
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:01pm“According to Pipes, of the many grievances aired by Islamists, insults to their Prophet Muhammad ranks at the top of all that is verboten, followed by “Western sexual freedom” and other liberated social practices concerning faith, speech, dress, personal relationships and so on.”
What, you mean the BEST THINGS TO HAPPEN in political history EVER?
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 3:23pmNot according to your average goat herder in Khazakastan.
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LogicIsYourFriend
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 8:48pmNot according to your average Republican in a red state. They don’t want sexual freedom or liberated social practices.
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 11:35pmI know. I try to put chastity belts on budding young ladies in my spare time, when I’m not thumping my bible.
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MikeRestin
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:01amNot according to your typical blue state. They don’t want freedom of speech or religion.
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WindyDualism
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:39amLogic
That is a pretty big net you are casting. Typical white leftist? Indy with huge id? Perhaps some red state dwellers couldn’t give a rip about your sexual preference, they just get tired of a loud minority crying about rights made up last week after the last made up rights have cleared up.
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tlhonmey
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 3:13pmSpeaking as a typical, gun toting, bible reading red-stater, I can honestly say that I don’t give a rat’s ass what you do in your own bedroom so long as all participation is voluntary.
It’s when you stage large demonstrations demanding that I give my blessing to what you do, even if I think it’s a bad idea that I get irritated.
The line drawn between the “religious right” and the “secular left” is disingenuous. The real debate is between libertarians and totalitarians. Those on the right who want to ban homosexuality and atheism are exactly the same kind of people as those on the left who want to tear down Christian monuments and force us all to pay for abortions. They all have no respect for individual liberty or free will. They all want to use the threat of physical consequences to bend others to their will. They are all evil. Those of us who actually believe in freedom need to stand up to both sides and tell them, “no!”. The almighty God refuses to take from us our free will, even when he doesn’t like what we do with it. Who are we to try and take from others what God himself has given all of us?
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Ih8Taxes
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:00pmWho cares anymore why they hate us, they’re going to blame us for all their troubles no matter what we do because they are simply not ready for democracy or advanced civilization.
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JRGJR
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 3:13pmI think instead of paying money to the media in Arab countries trying to make us look better we should pull out and buy one ad that tells them to stay the hell out of the US.
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JRGJR
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 3:17pmwhy do we care. If you picked up a bus load of the ones protesting in the streets maybe one of the could be taught to flip burgers. Oh wait that’s out occupy bunch.
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Gnarly Steve
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 4:14pmAmen, brother. As a retired Navy Muslim cultural specialist and linguist stationed in the ME and Africa for many years, I can relate that the basic problem with Islam is that it: (a) “does not play well with others”, i.e., mandates the destruction of all other belief sysytems as an article of faith (b) places women in automatic second-class status (e.g., the blatantly carnal/sexist reward in Muslim “paradise” is for a martyr to have access to multiple perpetual virgins); (c) displays an inherently anal-retentive view of life. Of course, when millions of young Muslim males see what life is like in the West, and compare it with their prospects at home, the Mullahs re-direct that collectivre rage towards us…and the thing we still don’t get is that Islam is a POLITICAL system more than a religious one. Muhammad was very clever in crafting a system that basically took the pent-up resentment of the Sons of Ishmael and directed that power against the Sons of Isaac….and anyone else who did not accept the “peace” of Islam….which embraces both elements of the Original Sin: Greed and Envy.
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floridareader
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:56pmThey hate the U.S. and still they get money to “rebuild” mosques as a “good-will effort” from the Federal Government and Democrats that don’t get it.
http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/09/us-state-department-is-financing-mosques-around-the-world/
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The Third Archon
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:56pm“Blindly” supports Israel against the Palestinians”
Okay, that’s DEFINITELY true, not only with regards to our policy for ALMOST the entire history of Israel’s existence (just look at the reaction on the Right, and even beyond, when Obama departs EVEN AN IOTA from this historical policy of UNCONDITIONAL support by asking Israeli politicians to *GASP* actually be ACCOUNTABLE and JUSTIFY their actions–nevermind that he hasn’t DONE anything different, Israel STILL receives more foreign military aid, more foreign aid PERIOD, than any other foreign state), and it’s CERTAINLY true of a SUBSTANTIAL portion of the American populace (you know who you are).
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WindyDualism
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:04pmThat’s a lot of spin to try to defend jihad and fatwas du jour.
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Quixotic-911
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:22pmYes you are right I do blindly support Israel and always will lest I incur the wrath of God and bring his judgement down upon us.
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Walkabout
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 3:29pmBlindly support Israel. We have condemned building of settlements, pressured them to withdraw from Gaza when it was against their best interest, funded the PLO to many millions of dollars, which Arafat stole like many other dictators, etc, etc, etc …
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 3:36pmIt’s not a ‘little’ support that’s been lost. The middle east is on fire, and has been for years. The backyard of Israel is the bloodiest place on Earth, and when Netanyahu came to America to meet with Obama, Obama shunned him to go hang out with David Letterman.
This was Obama basically telling them to go to hell.
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Edohiguma
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:50pmIt’s actually a pretty short list:
1) we’re not mohammedans
And that’s it.
Look at the history of islam: conquest, military expansion, genocide, oppression. From the very first moment, when Mohammed demanded from the Jews of Arabia to follow him (which they refused, and so he killed them, men, women and children), over the islamic attack on India (millions of Hindus butchered) and the constant attack on Europe (with the double climax of actually conquering Spain -and a very long liberation by the Christians- and the double attack on Vienna -including 200+ years of constant jihad against Austria’s southern border) to Lockerbie, 9/11, the murder of Christian school girls in Indonesia, and finally the rage over a silly movie.
This is all connected. It’s part of islam.
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Quixotic-911
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:23pmIslam has been at war with the world since it started. In the first 125 years after Mohammad’s death it spread from Pakistan to Spain. But it wasn’t accomplished through preaching, it was done by endless war. In that short time Islam attacked the western Roman and Byzantine world over 500 times.Contrary to popular belief they didn’t preserve learning they burned 90% of all the books. Islam turned Roman north African farm land into a desert and took away the bread basket of Egypt. They crushed the Mediterranean economy through piracy all while murdering and enslaving millions. Islam was the direct cause of the North African, Anatolian and western dark ages through endless war and economic collapse. Islam is the scourge of civilization and always has been! If you don’t resist they will conquer the world and send it into another dark age.
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MDECKER
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:50pmThe Muslims would eat themselves within five years if we cut all ties with the Middle East. If it weren’t for the United States, the Middle East wouldn’t even know how to get the oil from the ground underneath them. The only thing we owe them is, a match.
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atechgeek
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 3:42pmI got a bunch of matches. They can have them all.
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bikerdogred1
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:48pmMy hate list for them is pretty long to.When you look at the arabs and the blacks the apple didn’t fall far from the tree.
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Norm D. Plume
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 5:09pmYou realize that Arabs are Semites, right?
You know … of the same genetic stock as the Jews?
Or didn’t you know that?
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WindyDualism
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:45amNormy
Why are they oh so Anti-semetic then? Why do they threaten their bros every day ending in y? Why do they refer to their bros as little Satan? Do they give a rat’s ass for your defending and obfuscating for them? How does that make you feel?
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KusoJiJi
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:44pmThe one thing that the article left out was their view on feminism. It is a man’s world over there. The last thing any Muslim man wants to do is give up his power of women. It is this western influence they fear the most and it is the single most important influence they are fighting against.
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Just_Us2
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:42pmAmerica has a serious case of battered wife syndrome when it comes to Muslims. It is time to leave the abusive husband and put a restraining order on all Muslim people in the ME. We send no money, we buy nothing from them, we do not answer their calls, we cut off internet, phones and we watch the pot boil over with rage and implode. We drill for our own oil and become energy self sufficient. We support Israel financially and arm them to the teeth and turn them loose. It is just embarrassing how we are bowing down to the Muslims in the middle east as if they were our masters. If a Muslim immigrant has issues with that, send them packing. Let the entire cult sink in to the sand and after the last one dies in the name of Allah, then we will consider their plight.
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LakeHartwellSailor
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:00pmTotally agree…..but first we must become energy independent……fat chance with this administration. But otherwise, it will take us 10 years to become energy independent, and that’s just to get the infrastructure in place….but before that, we got to cut through the BS EPA regulations….and you can already imagine the myriad of issues to obtain that goal. But otherwise, I agree; cut off the aid money to those countries….hell, give at least half that money to the Israelis… and point our weapons in their general direction (the muslim countries…not Israel).
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SovereignSoul
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:43pmWhy do we need to be energy independent to ‘cut off’ the middle east? The majority of our oil Imports do not come from the middle east. The largest exporter of oil to the U.S. i Canada.
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13th Imam
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:40pmJust goes to show that Tech Eng, Gooch, Angry, Mary Beth, and the other America and Jew haters on the Blaze are actually Muslims.
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The Third Archon
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:13pmSo by “Jew Haters” you mean “people who don’t unquestioningly get behind the agenda of Israeli nationalism?”
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13th Imam
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:29pmNo, YOU
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resme
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:31pmDo you wanna bomb them? I bet you do.
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 3:27pmSomebody that willfully ignores the blood thirsty 32+ nations states surrounding Israel from all sides, and want to allow one of these rogue states to acquire a nuclear weapon is practicing ignorance on a colossal scale.
Would you give Hitler a nuke?
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WindyDualism
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 4:41pmResme
Are you allowed to post without Indy or Soy posting first?
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LogicIsYourFriend
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 8:51pm#THE_CABRITO_GOAT
Hitler is dead, so it really wouldn’t matter much.
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 11:37pmNot the answer I wanted.
Would you give Hitler a nuke?
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Classical Liberal
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 12:11pm@cabrito, You are equating a genocidal mad dictator who conquered Europe and killed millions with the Iran. Are you joking/trolling or just stupid?
What the hell is wrong with you neocon progressives? You are to cowardly to fight your own damn battles but constantly push the state of perpetual war and death.
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WindyDualism
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 2:25pmHey lib
Why does pot and kettle not ring your bells? Libs are trashy, nothing classical in the DNA. Why do libs need to keep a class of people on the dole, for mere power over them? Iran parrots hitler daily, and you find the need to defend that. You guys did the same with Lebanon; keep them down to use them. Nice. Genocide is a lefty action. Guessing Wagner is a fav of yours? And Adolph. Classical lib is like a rosey fart. Sure.
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 4:07pmHave we learned nothing from Osama? When people perpetually threaten to kill you, YOU BETTER TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY. The mullahs of Iran have stated they wanted to blow a hole in the world where Israel is since 1979. Come on.
Would you or would you not give hitler a nuke?
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SamIamTwo
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:40pmThey have never stopped warring…it’s been going on since about 625AD.
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Tigress1
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 1:28pmThey want to draw us into their tit-for-tat stupidity as well. Why do they hate us? Because they are HATEFUL PEOPLE!
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doomytram
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:39pmThey hate us because of the you tube video clip that hurt their feelings and nothing more. Why? Because Obozo told me so.
They hates us because Obozo is our president and they wish he were their president. Why? Because Obozo told me so.
They hate us because Obozo told us so.
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stoptheliesbho
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:37pmUm, could it also be because the West is comprised MAINLY of people claiming to be Christians who glean their faith from the words of the Bible, who say that Jesus IS God and that in the end all those that don’t believe that will be thrown into the lake of fire? Yes – that COULD be why Muslims hate the West also. I guess Mormon Blaze won’t put that out there though as a viable reason why Muslims hate the West so much. It’s a HOLY war. Always has been. Always will be. Politics? Nope. Not really. Oil? Nope. Not really. Anti-Mohammed video? A little bit…but not really. Muslims hate Christians because we completely refute the notion that the prophet Mohammed was a direct spokesperson for God and we denounce the Q’oran as God’s word. There. I said it. Reason #1 why Muslims hate the West.
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Just_Us2
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:52pmYour comment is full of racism. Your argument is that Muslims hate because Christians say bad things about them? So if that is how ALL people are, then Christians would be rioting whenever a Muslim says something about Christianity. Since that is NOT the case, your are assuming that Muslims are somehow incapable, based on race, to control themselves. Your logic is flawed and skewed by bias and racism. The fact is, no one can FORCE you to do anything you do not want to do, except die. No one can do anything to FORCE me to riot, kill and destroy. I would have to either want to do it, or, die resisting. The Muslims riot/kill because they choose to, not because of anyone else’s behavior. They need to take responsibility for what they have done with their own hands.
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chips1
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:34pmMaybe they are mad at the fact we have freedom of religion and they are forced to practice a cult. If they object, they are butchered and have no choice.
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Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:34pmIt’s simple, they hate us because of “Spongebob Squarepants” There was a ancient scroll that has an actual drawing of Mohammad, and ironically, he looks exactly like Spongebob. Every since that cartoon came out, They have been driven insane by it’s disrespect to their prophet, plus, Spongebob associates with Shell Creatures, which is a big No No.
In fact, Spongebob came out in the late 90′s, the attacked us on 9/11/01. If we had only heeded the warning a took spongebob off the air.
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Zipit
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 9:26pmDAJAT! I think it was the “SpongeBob does Las Vegas” episode that really tipped the scale!
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kat747
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:31pmThey hate us because the USA sends them billions of dollars a year and we buy their oil.
So
STOP SENDING THOSE DAMN CHECKS TO THEM
and
STOP BUYING THEIR OIL.
Give them what they want for God’s sake.
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Tom
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:38pmI agree pull out, don’t buy there oil, deport all muslames that don’t put the US over islame, cut off all funding, aide and trade to the whole region. and let them rot.
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:31pmThey hate us for the simplest of reasons: We have freedom; they do not.
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Atrain1966
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:38pmThey have always hated. It’s what they’re taught. It’s nothing new. It’s not a religion of peace !
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CatB
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:52pmThey hate us because we are breathing … as long as we live .. they hate.
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resme
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:30pmthree wonderful christians!
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Individualism
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 2:48pmthey hate you for invading their countries, murdering their people and installing dictatorships in their countries.
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DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 3:08pmINDIVIDUALISM – everyone hates YOU.
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WindyDualism
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 7:23pmPaul would have us bending and smiling though. Golly gee guys, don’t point those nukes at us, those pesky jews started it, like and stuff. I hear uraguay is doling out gubmint weed if you two indy’s get too low.
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Eric_The_Red_State
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:25pmThey hate us for stuff like;
Man-vs-Food — (eating contest guy) —–
Bayou Billionairs —– where people do stupid stuff with money
Teen Mom —— pregnant teenagers who bitch all the time
Duck Dynasty —-
Redneck Millionairs —–
Honey Boo Boo ——
They hate us because we hold nothing sacred anymore
They hate us because we treat other people like things
They hate us because we BOO GOD
And most importantly — they hate us because their PARENTS TOLD THEM TO — and their PARENTS PARENTS — their PARENTS PARENTS PARENTS– etc etc
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floridareader
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:44pm@Eric
That because…
- No Christmas ?
No Television ?
No Nude Women ! ? !
No Football ?
No Pork Chops ?
- No Hot Dogs ?
- No Burgers ?
- No Beer ! ? !
No Bacon ?
- Rags For Clothes ?
- Towels For Hats ?
- Constant Wailing From Some Idiot In A Tower ?
- More Than One Wife ?
- More Than One Mother-In-Law ! ? !
- You Can’t Shave ?
- Your Wife Can’t Shave ?
- You Can’t Wash Off The Smell Of Donkey ?
- You Wipe Your Arse With Your Hand ?
- You Cook Over Burning Camel **** ?
- Your Wife Is Picked By Someone Else For You ?
- And Your Wife Smells Worse Than Your Donkey ?
Then They Tell You That ” When You Die, It ALL Gets Better ” !!!!!!
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blanco5
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:21pmB…b…bu…but it’s the movie that’s the reason that they hate us.
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huey6367
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:47pmSadly, it was because of the movie. Not because of how Mohammed was depicted but because of the low production value which they took to mean that Islam was an unsophisticated religion. So, in response, they showed their sophistication by sodomizing and American ambassador then dragging his body through the street to get him to the hospital. BTW, that is how I take people to the hospital – by dragging them through the street until they are dead. Then they set the place on fire. Exactly how sophistocated people show their disdain.
But totally the movie.
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moreteaplease
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 1:53pmThat’s what The Anointed One told us so that HAS TO BE IT…right?
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its_the_end_of_the_world_as_we_know_it
Posted on September 21, 2012 at 7:31pmClassic.
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