‘Dehumanizes and Marginalizes’: Illegal Immigrant Journalist on Quest to Ban ‘Illegal Immigrant’ From Associated Press, New York Times

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The former Washington Post journalist who made headlines last year after outing himself as an illegal immigrant is on a mission to get media organizations to stop using the term “illegal immigrant,” starting with the Associated Press and New York Times.
Jose Antonio Vargas told reporters at an online news association conference on Friday that journalists should instead use “undocumented” or explore other ways to describe someone’s immigration status.
“Right now, my two main targets, and I say that politely, are going to be the New York Times and the Associated Press,” Vargas said, according to ABC News. “The term dehumanizes and marginalizes the people it seeks to describe. Think of it this way, in what other context do we call someone illegal?”
Vargas said he plans to meet with representatives from the Associated Press in charge of the organization’s influential stylebook, and said he has already begun having conversations with New York Times ombudsman Margaret Sullivan, whom he described as “very open,” according to Politico.
In a Time magazine column on the same topic published Friday, Vargas said journalists who use “illegal” are “politicizing an already political issue.” He noted that several news organizations, including the Miami Herald, Huffington Post and San Antonio News-Express have changed their policies in recent years to drop the term “illegal immigrant” in favor of “undocumented immigrant.”
Vargas, who won a Pulitzer Prize for breaking news coverage in 2008, appeared on the cover of Time in June with 35 others under the headline “We are Americans*…*Just not legally.”
“Though the term is in the AP Stylebook because it reflects a legal reality, we believe there are alternatives. AP reporters understand that it’s not the only way to refer to individuals in a host of different circumstances,” Colford said. “In the case of a person brought here as a child without permission, the term can be misleading, since the person wasn’t a willing ‘immigrant’ at all. In such a case, AP reporters might simply state the situation: He doesn’t have legal permission to live in the United States, since his parents entered the country illegally (or without authorization).”
In addition to the AP and the Times, Vargas said his Define American organization will also encourage people around the country to report instances of print, radio and television news outlets using “illegal immigrant.”
“The people who read and consume the news in their own local communities should be calling out these news agencies,” Vargas told ABC. “It needs to be at that level.”
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WilliamCustisBuffington
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:48amI Reckon that if Judd (The convict in Federal Lockup in WV who ran in the primary against Obama) had gotten the nomination for the Democratic Party all of this hullabaloo about illegal aliens and their so called rights woul stop!
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ultor-de-deus-exercitus
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:21amHang a chair day. Show your solidarity and patriotism today, hang a chair in your front yard until November 7th. Let every socialist know, “Not in my country, not now, not ever!”
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mwhaley
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 12:39pmLet me get this straight. The democrats do not see a problem having illegals live here, and those same democrats want everyone to pay their fair share in taxes. I have an idea, tax the bat snot out of illegals. This a sure cure for everyone. The democrats will get a tax, and we will see a mass exodus of illegals.
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The Third Archon
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 12:40pmHe ran in the primary of ONE state–he never would have gotten the nomination WRIT LARGE. Even had he won, it would be completely irrelevant to national politics.
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 12:42pm*gasp* is that a code word dog whistle??
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The_Jerk
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 1:13pmIllegal immigrants dehumanize and devalue a law abiding culture.
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MetalPatriot
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 1:35pmSo many great comments…
Invaders is a favorite…because it’s very true. Easiest way to conquer a country is by booming population growth and cross-pollination = breeding. Central America has us (legal American citizens of all ethnicities) beat.
Drug trafficers/dealers/gang/cartel people are my biggest peave. I don’t believe in “due process” for these animals. Their relatives harbor them, they do their “business”, and traverse the open border.
This dork looks like he’s trying to appear Asian by his haircut. Thus, one aspect of the problem is that illegals can look like anybody.
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WindyDualism
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 1:45pmJihad Jerk
You just know all about dehuminization huh? What would your bud hitler do about the issue? Reiterate your point about tattoos and where that great thought originated… Worked out well before huh?
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RepubliCorp
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 1:56pmULTOR-DE-DEUS-EXERCITUS I likes! Nov 7th___ hang a chair day……..
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SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 2:25pmso stop calling breaking the law illegal?Whats the punishment in mexico for illegal immigration?
Yeah i like the idea of a higher tax rate for illegals.
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4truth2all
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 3:11pmYou ARE illegal … that means you broke the law..if you can’t face that truth …to bad for you.
Your like a dog telling the dog catcher your a cat, and the stupid dog catcher actually believes you.
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Obama_Forward_Over_The_Cliff
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 3:48pm“The former Washington Post journalist who made headlines last year after outing himself as an illegal immigrant is on a mission to get media organizations to stop using the term ‘illegal immigrant,’ ”
There it is … another propaganda war against America! Trying to change the language — this time to allow foreign nationals to commit the criminal act of sneaking into THIS country. Hello, fascist Homeland Security, you are detaining the wrong people … get out of America’s airports and go to the borders to x-ray & grope & detain illegal aliens.
They are illegal aliens … NOT “illegal immigrants” … NOT “undocúmented immigrants”. Criminals and nothing less, subject to arrest and punishment (not “hotel accommodations”; chain gang work on America’s roads) … and thereafter deportation.
BTW, issue an arrest warrant for “Jose Antonio Vargas” — wow, what a give-away, uh? Oh, and conspiracy warrants to Washington Post and Time magazine.
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Obama_Forward_Over_The_Cliff
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 3:59pmWONDERING WHY YOU CANNOT POST?
Blame TheBlaze’s wordpress auto-censor — especially in an article like this.
The culprit (at least, this time) is the word … “docúment”. Why docúment (notice I’m spelling it with an alternate character “ú” to get it past the defective software)? Because the word docúment has the work cúm as a sequence of letters within docúment!
(Someone really needs to flush this auto-censor down to where it belongs.)
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MIBUGNU2
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 4:35pm_*Congressional Reform Act of 2012*_
Let’s FIX CONGRESS,
1. No Tenure / No Pension.
A Congressman/woman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they’re out of office.
2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.
All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into
the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.
3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.
4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.
6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.
7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void effective 12/31/12. The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen/women.
Congressmen/women made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in
Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their
term(s), then go home and back to work.
If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive
the message. Don’t you think it’s time?
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sillyfreshness
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 5:17pmI agree “illegal immigrant” is too polite. They should be referred to as “illegal aliens.”
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 5:32pmWhy have borders? Why have immigration? Why can’t everyone just come and go – in and out of America – and take what we have worked for, take it home with them, send it home? Bring us their sick to heal, their kids to educate ? WHY? I mean, I can go to Russia, France, Germany, Italy, China, Norway, Denmark, England, Canada even without papers, can’t I ? I can just go, plop myself down, get a job and collect benefits every where right?
WHAT??!!!
YOU mean I can’t do that in ANY OTHER COUNTRY?
WHY?
Because it would deplete the Country? Because the Country could not secure itself ? Because I’d be thrown in Jail?
The USA is unlike any country on earth. We are founded upon an IDEA, A VISION – not some quirky family ties, or language or skin color…but on an IDEA. That IDEA is FREEDOM. OF course people from all over the world want to live here. WHY NOT? (FREEDOM) I doubt there is any country on the planet that people want to immigrate to more than the US of A (New Zealand/Australia/England now) BUT PEOPLE CANNOT GO ANYWHERE, SNEAK IN ANYWHERE, CROSS OVER ANY BORDER like they can AMERICA’S. WE, THE PEOPLE, have been demanding CLOSED BORDERS for 4 Presidencies at least . 2 Bushes, 1 Clinton (2 terms) and This jerk. Illegal Immigrants have turned Our cities into ganglands; overloaded our jails, sunken our hospitals, medical facilities, down graded our schools. THEY have not contributed, just taken. LOOK AT US!!! NO MORE ILLEGALS!!!
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 6:02pmTHE ALINSKY METHOD OF TAKING OVER A COUNTRY: Demoralize the people; Take away their Belief system; Wreck their economy; Gut their Military; Ruin any sense of NATIONAL PRIDE; turn people against each other; Take over the major decisions in our lives; Frustrate, castrate, remove all moral restrictions and you end up with a huge number of useless idiots, beaten to the core.
Then you Communists/Marxists/Socialist/Islamic nuts can just waltz in and there will be NO resistance. Whores like Soros can come in and scoop up properties for 10 c on the dollar; conglomerates can gobble up the little guys (think Bank of America, Walmart) THIS IS WHERE WE ARE PATRIOTS. NO matter where you live in the USA, this is where we are. From Detroit that looks like a “Movie Set” for a “disaster or horror” movie to NEW YORK where you can’t put salt on your food, even into TEXAS where you don’t dare carry a religious banner to a football game. THIS IS WHERE we are.
ARE YOU READY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT…REALLY?
VOTE. Get 3 others to vote. Make sure they know the facts that you know. FIRST WE HAVE TO STOP THE BLEEDING. WE can do it. There are 75% of us out here, not organized, not held together by UNION thugs… we are the AMERICANS. We are the PATRIOTS. THIS is THE FIGHT
for our Generation. IF you think it’s bad now, you don’t want to know what an Unleashed OBAMA would be like. VOTE or this is our LAST ELECTION.
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MrTesla
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:07pmI think we should adopt Mexico’s policy towards “illegal immigrants”.
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Platonician
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:31pmSorry to burst your bubble but the problem is more complicated. Amid the current clash of civilizations, the fact that this man is illegally in the USA is irrelevant. There are people in the USA currently who are 1000 times more “alien” than this individual but they have full American citizenship, people like Huma Abedin, the sons of the islamist Mohammed Morsi, crimianl Nidal Hassan, etc.
At least Vargas has a Judeo-Christian heritage and his parents spoke an European, western, language, Spanish. The respect of the Law is important but the war we are fighting is more important.
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Zod Cranards
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:10pmPerhaps instead of ‘illegal alien’, we should just use the tried and true time tested ‘*******’ appellation.
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BlueStrat
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:30pmI think illegal immigrants should be celebrated.
Not with a single day.
Several weeks every year.
Right before deer hunting season.
Gotta get things sighted-in before going for venison, as venison is valuable.
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MadinIllinois
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 8:05amObviously there is something wrong here in this country – as – IF you were in Mexico and “illegal” – YOU would be HUNTED DOWN AND JAILED!
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4truth2all
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 8:25amYo Blue:
I shoulda reported you … dumb comment
do you want to open a season for me to now …?
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Drahcir
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 3:05pmWho likes and respects
LINE-CUTTERS’ anti-
social/anti-civilized
behavior?
Ilegal aliens are LINE-CUTTING thieves, STEALING an undeserved place in our society
Let’s use that more
discriptive term, as
everyone – including
liberals! – HATES LINE-CUTTERS’
behavior–anywhere
it’s practiced.
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BlueStrat
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 5:20pm“Yo” 4Truth2All
Sorry, but maybe if YOU had a friend shot dead by an illegal for having a “Secure Our Borders” bumper sticker, and who then laughed and said he’d be in Mexico long before the cops even had a clue what his real name was, you might see things differently. That was over three years ago, and no, he wasn’t caught. I don’t think the cops ever did find out what his real name was.
Walk a mile first, bro, before you flame me.
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4truth2all
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 7:15pmYo Blue:
Sorry to hear about your friend , but that does not justify what you said ..and you got NO idea where I have walked.
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jtmfc
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 9:14pmThey are illegal alien lawbreakers and nothing is going to change that fact. LEGAL immigrants who follow the rules to come to America are welcome, but to enter a country without permission is an act that should not be allowed by being rewarded with entitlements. We are the only country to allow illegals to enter without reprisal. Try entering another country illegally, You will be arrested and will find how they will treat your breaking their laws . I guarantee you will not receive the keys to the city ,nor will you get a goodie basket filled with freebies. It’s time to wake up America, we are being used.
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mesaman2
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 9:54pmI think illegal immigrant is much more acceptable than “*******”. Of course using that term may get this censored out.
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mesaman2
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 9:58pmWhen you swim across the Rio Grande, it makes you all wet, doesn’t it. Maybe they would prefer wetfronts instead of illegals.
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ginger ghent
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 10:39pmHe is absolutely correct…the word immigrant denotes a legal process…illegal is illegal…should we call them aliens, lawbreakers, cheats, liars, sneaking cowards, criminals??? choose any adjective you can think of.
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BlueStrat
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 11:13pm@ 4truth2all (“Yo” says a lot about your level of intellectual sophistication, btw)
Fortunately, nobody needs your “justification”. But I know for certain where you HAVE NOT walked…in *my* shoes. Maybe one day when it’s someone *you* care about paying the ultimate price for the violent & hostile foreign invasion we are suffering under which the government refuses to defend us against, even encouraging, you’ll understand.
Until then, keep your moral judgements to yourself.
Good DAY, sir.
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catdaddio42
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 12:43amThe simplest term I’ve heard for people who cross a country’s borders illegally is INVADERS.
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4truth2all
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 7:45amYo Blue:
Yo … says NOTHING about the ability of my brain functions …but your responce to it sure speaks to yours.
Why don’t YOU go do what you say … and kill an innocent person and then someone who cares about them can kill my innocent friends … yeah, then we will fit the same shoes … you fixed the problem real good buddy … Like I said you got no idea where my shoes have been …
Oh, and by the way I will say as I wish … seems you are the one doing more of the judging …
Next time you avocate MURDER, I WILL report your post …Yo
Final thing … I am for shutting the borders down COMPLETELY … and actually considered going on a volunteer patrol over my vacation.
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Mulder1
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 9:50amThey are aliens who are in the USA illegally, so I am going to continue to call them illegal aliens. I will not be intimidated by PC liberal twits into calling illegal aliens what they are. **** them.
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saneromeo
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:46amIn the French Revolution it was said “There is no crime, only criminals.” This is another way of saying that whomever the mob deems guilty is guilty, and whomever the mob deems innocent is innocent. We are in the midst of a global French Revolution, where there is no law only the lawless, which makes lawabiding citizens “criminals” to the mob.
News for everyone. TRUTH IS NOT OFFENSIVE!!! The party of “science and rationalism” has the hardest time with objective truth, but there is no irony there…
http://saneromeo.wordpress.com/
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WindyDualism
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:57amCriminal trespassers works too.
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Benetto
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:59amcriminal trespassers works for me also!
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kennycannon
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 12:28pmI actually like criminal trespasser better.
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marine249
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 1:22pmI’ll go for that.
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SuaSponte
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 4:46pmIn my state, I can legally shoot “criminal tresspassers”. At least on my property…..
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 5:40pmDEHUMANIZES? MARGINALIZES? Right. What part of ILLEGAL can’t these people get. There is a way they can come in, the right way, like everyone else…but here’s the real problem in the USA now:
THE LIBERAL PC nuts. America became great when people coming to AMERICAN had to learn (as quickly as they could: TO SPEAK ENGLISH. When they assimilated into society making it stronger.
NOW, all they do is have their “home away from home” little communities that have -0- to do with BUILDING AMERICA – just TAKING FROM AMERICA and I’ll be damned if these PC jerks (these progressive, liberal, communist types) don’t spend OUR TAX money having teachers learn two or more languages, having our road signs etc. in two languages. IF YOU CAN’T SPEAK ENGLISH you should not be driving. There are enough international signals to be warnings…but really. WE have tried to SIT on the EDGE of the RAZOR too damned long and it’s splitting us in half.
THESE INTERLOPERS think they have all the rights we have worked for and built just because they are human. I can’t go anywhere else in the world and be treated like this…AND WE WONDER WHY
there is NO RESPECT FOR THE USA? WE WONDER WHY we are in DEBT past our eyeballs??
IT’s the BLOODY POLITICIANS who USE illegal votes, just like the UNIONS to stay in POWER. THROW THEM ALL OUT. Start at the WH !! 46 days!
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DrSique
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 8:12pmThis is simply more progressive nonsense, attempting to alter reality by changing language. It’s a lot like the SCOTUS interpreting the Constitution instead of upholding it, thereby giving them the latitude to make it say things that it never has. I suppose that the next advice from this Pulitzer winning illegal alien will be to call home invaders family instead of putting two in their coconuts. This represents perfectly the difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives have learned how to think and liberals are told what to think.
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doggsforromney
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:44amam I the only one to notice that in the headline of this story “he calls himself…ILLEGAL…….more pc crap…this is not political it’s a…..legal status…..what shall we call a divorced person…what shall an ex-con…..what shall we call a terrorist attack…….work place violence..per Obama…..Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me…..every group goes through this “rite ” of passage…so chose to be victims all thier life
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ultor-de-deus-exercitus
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:22amHang a chair day. Show your solidarity and patriotism today, hang a chair in your front yard until November 7th. Let every socialist know, “Not in my country, not now, not ever!”
Fire the socialist.
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oneshiner
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 3:59pmNo, I read that he called himself illegal. I’ve been wondering if any other country in this world gives free immigration pass to others? Do they give free welfare? Do they give free anything? I think not!
We are a nation of givers, but after a point these freeloaders should be shipped back to their own home or get a job and become a legal citizen and pay their fair share toward our citizens.
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reality based lifeform
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:44amI can see his point we need to change the term to “Criminal Trespassers”
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Steverino
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:33amI think “criminal trespassers” sums it up very nicely.
Steve
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CatB
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 12:14pmWell they are not illegal “immigrants” … They are at the very least .. ILLEGAL ALIENS .. so I agree let’s stop coddling them and call them what they are INVADERS!
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armyofnibiru
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 2:51pmcriminal tresspassers,hum.how many illegal immigrants are criminals??100% their here illegally.since he started this offensive campaign and put his face in ours.why can’t ice find him?the war on the constitution continues by the left.
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oneshiner
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 4:02pmCATB Call ‘em what they are. If they don’t want to be called illegals, join our society by becoming a LEGAL resident. DUH?
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oldguy77
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 11:06amThe best I have seen sofar is the term “wet back.”
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capitalismrocks
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:44amLet’s see:
You broke our laws – that’s Illegal
and you broke them by illegally immigrating here….
Illegal Immigrant… yeah that is what you are, if you don’t like it, GET OUT !!!
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ComingUnglued
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:02amWe’re Americans, just not legally. America is a nation of laws, not for the unlawful.
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Bluebonnet
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:11amWhat else do you call illegal immigrants? People keep trying to change our language , why not change
illegal activities?
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Bluebonnet
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:13amIf the term is so offensive, then why don’t these people apply for citizenship like they’re supposed to do?
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Skippy_John_Jones
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:36amWould they feel better if we just called them the help?
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GodFearingMama
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:53amBluebonnet you’re right. They can wait in line like everyone else. Do they jump in the front of line at the grocery store too?!?
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AmericanGirl777
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 1:30pmExactly!!! When you enter a country, you do so two ways: (1) legally, with appropriate papers, passport, etc.; or (2) ILLEGALLY. They can spin it however they want, ILLEGAL will ALWAYS BE ILLEGAL. My mother was a LEGAL IMMIGRANT/Naturalized American Citizen, my father a Natural Born American Citizen, I take extreme offense to these individuals who ‘claim’ to be American simply by right of birth. Their parents, who most likely could not have met the standards to gain legal entry, came through the ‘back door’, unlike the LEGAL IMMIGRANTS who applied, waited their turn, PAID THEIR FEES, LEARNED THE LANGUAGE and in many cases, ADOPTED A NEW LANGUAGE & NEW COUNTRY. I can’t imagine how difficult it must be for these ‘misfits’ who don’t fit into either country, but they have no one to blame but their own short-sighted, foolish parents who took the easy way out and now the children must pay for the sins of the fathers. Frankly, I’m done with the sympathy factor, DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS NOW!!!!
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capitalismrocks
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 2:38pmMy family was trying to escape Europe as the Soviets were coming in to take it over after WWII and they almost didn’t get out of the country because they had to wait for their Visa and permits to be allowed to board a boat to come to America, only a small handful made it, the vast majority didn’t and were all murdered by the communists – yes the same communists the DNC, SEIU and other idiots love so much…
They had to be able to speak basic english and had to study civics on the way over, take a test at Ellis Island and swear an oath to pledge their allegiance to America and forgo their allegiance for their former nation.
THAT is how you become a LEGAL U.S. citizen…
these people purposefully and knowingly came into their country outside of legal and proper channels, they are ILLEGALS, no if’s and’s or but’s about it.
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TH30PH1LUS
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 2:58pmIf ANY president continues to ignore this criminal issue, then the Federal Government owes a formal apology and a full refund to EVERY LEGAL IMMIGRANT who took the time and pains to respect and obey our laws, and scraped together every dime to pay for the process.
I’m tired of criminals and SETTLERS (NOT immigrants unless they integrate) demanding more and more from our society.
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Rock_Moninoff
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:41amtest
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kat747
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:39amAnd you Mr. Vargas are “dehumanizing and marginalizing” every legal citizen of this great country.
You are violating the First Amendment Right of free speech of the Citizens of the USA.
Stop telling American Citizens how to talk and what to think.
Put your big boy pants on and go get a green card or become a citizen.
What part of “LEGAL” don’t you get ?
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TAXEVERYONE
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:43amVargas, you have seen anything yet. As soon as the incompetent in the WH is voted out, you will see REAL immigration reform, and it won’t be allowing more lawn mowers in. It will be bringing in immigrants legally who contribute positively to our country in areas such as science and medicine.
We have enough illiterates graduating from our high schools every year who will replace the illegal Mexicans in mowing our lawns.
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JimmyP
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 1:00pmI dunno, I always thought “*******” was so much nicer. I vote for going back to using the term *******.
Look, dumb-donkeys, it ain;t what we call them, it’s what is being done that matters, OK? Fine, we’ll call them “fine upstanding children of universal presence of light, goodness and joy” as we march them into the armored bus headed to Mexico.
Happy now, boys, girls, homosexuals, gender neutral beings and polysexuals?
Good, now where were we in the real world that matters?
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progressiveslayer
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:38amWe have an illegal dictating what words we can and can’t use,that’s rich.Hey Paco you and the 20 + million illegals need to be deported ASAP. I’m sick of these candyass illegals complaining how awful this country is yet they stream across the border to get here, get the F OUT OF HERE,GO F UP MEXICO. Oh it’s too late Mexico’s already a basket case.
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oldguy77
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:49amJust a thought:Did you know Mexico does not have the death penalty?So if an illegal kills an american citizen and makes it back to his country he can get away with murder.And it has been done.
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progressiveslayer
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:03amYes I’m aware of it,unfortunately it happens too often.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:18amOLDGUY77, No only does that often happen, the murderers often return to the states later with a new identity. Or, simply claim to have a different name.
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idarusskie
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:19amwould you want to live in a Mexican prison?
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progressiveslayer
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:27amI’m a law abiding citizen,what’s your point.
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devildogger
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 8:41pmALL illegals are cowards. If they had courage and love of country they’d stand up to the oligarchy which has consumed their country and is threatening ours. DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS IMMEDIATELY!
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hillbillyinny
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:36amIf you are an immigrant (from somewhere outside of the U.S., and you are in the U.S. illegally, you ARE AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT!
If you are someone who was brought into the U.S. by illegal immigrant parents as when you were a child, it is not, necessarily, “your fault,” but you are still an illegal immigrant.
Do we need a process to deal with young people who know only the U.S. as home, yes! But, do we change our vocabulary to make you “feel” better? No!
Truth, is truth, is truth, and when we live within truth (coming to the U.S. illegally is NOT TRUTH, IT’S A LIE!), we should be able to work out a process (a type of fast track to citizenship) for those who show that they are loyal to the U.S. and are working, tax paying contributors to the American society and standards.
But in the end, illegal immigrant is a truth, whether or not it hurts your feelings.
If I am fat, and someone says I’m fat, I may not like what they say, but they are telling truth. Therefore, if I don’t like that truth about myself, I NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! And I’m sorry, but all situations short of some birth defects, can be changed! Hard work, determination, and truth. . .
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marianner863
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 12:36pmBravo!! I couldn’t have said any better.
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FlashGordo
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 10:22pmComment about those kids of illegal invaders who supposedly only know the USA as home:
For 18 years I have taught children in Texas, most of whom are the offspring of illegal invaders. They may live here, get free healthcare here, get subsized housing here, get free school breakfasts and lunches and a free education here, and get free foodstamps here, but I have never known one who did not automatically and unconsciously refer to Mexico, El Salvador, Honduras or wherever they came from as “my country.” Forget the nonsense about the children being patriotic US Americans. Their families take them on extended vacations back to wherever they came from every summer so they can stay with abuela and forget most of the English we worked to teach them in school all year; they write and talk constantly about how fun it is over there, how they would not have to go to school there, how much better the food is over there, and so on. Anyone who claims they love the USA is misinformed or dreaming up some liberal romanticism. They look at us the way men look at a cheap sl*t who gives up everything way too easily…with utter contempt. And when they get older, they are so thoroughly brainwashed into the doctrine that they are being “cheated” by white people that they become downright hateful.
Send them back, even the kids. They would actually be happier there. And I know we would be happier here.
BTW the only accurate term for them is PARASITES.
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Jenny Lind
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:35amHow about instead we call you out as illegally in the US? Why is it OK for you to come here without permission from the people who pay the majority of taxes and use the services of hospitals-who cannot turn you away, and schools-who MUST educate your children? Is that fair Mr Vargas? Do not tell me how much you contribute-it doesn’t hold any truth to what you consume in services. Sorry, you are illegal aliens and I wish you would go back, including the children you snuck over the border to have in US hospitals. Your breaking the law is not Christian either. Christ said to obey the laws of the land-render unto Ceaser, etc. You are stealing services that equate to money earned by those here legaly, and that is against the ten commandments. I am a kind person, but I cannot and will not support someone breaking the laws of our country.
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oldguy77
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:46amLets make it easy on them.Call them mexicans period.There was a story in the inquirer this sunday about bringing back the draft.How many “mexicans” do you think will sign up? The are illegal but their not stupid.
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floridareader
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:35amWell, it could be changed to “outlaws”, since they haven’t followed the process to gain LEGAL status.
BHO changed terrorist to “work-place trouble maker”. Obama and his cronies insist in calling “spontaneous” the terrorist attack that killed ambassador Stevens, and the American hate movement around the world.
They have tried to called rape, a “sexual orientation”, and now they want to stop calling illegal what is illegal.
Political correctness is taking us into chaos.
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kat747
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:44amJust ignore political correctness…..it has NOT existed since the New Blk Panther Party started calling Americans WMF and printing that if Barry does not win the election there will be “bullets in the streets”.
Ignore political correctness just like Barry ignores the US Constitution. The liberal, left democrats are not the only ones who can “ignore” whatever they want to….now anyone can “ignore” anything they want to ignore. This is called “ignoring the double standard”.
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RebelPatriot
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:48amHow about we call them illegal occupiers?
or maybe criminal occupiers?
or just criminals?
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floridareader
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:11amOther “phenomenon” that really bothers me is those people that come to the United States, follow the process, get their citizenship and still hang in their cars a little flag of their native country!
No one should ever forget his/her roots, but they pledged allegiance to the flag of the United States of America!!!!
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armyofnibiru
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 3:08pmthe outlaw immigrant ingrates see all the lawlessness in DC and want a piece of the action.congress people can stear millions of dollars to their hubby’s bank and be cleared by the other party of illegals.
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FlashGordo
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 10:25pmVery true!
Let’s just call them parasites. Short and sweet.
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StormRider
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:34am“We are Americans, just not legally” Really? Instead of bitzhing and whining find out what you need to do to become a legal citizen and go do it. I wanted to conceaal carry , I didn’t whine that I couldn’t carry because I didn’t have a license. I went through the process and got my license, I went through the process to get a legal drivers license, I went through the process to get my veteran license plates. What part of this is hard for you to understand? Now Shut Up take responsibilty for your process and stop whining.
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Stelex
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:40amVery well said
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:25amWhat the heck. I say that we are all Mexicans too….just not legally. Makes about as much sense.
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armyofnibiru
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 3:13pmin mexico they put more effort in rounding up illegals,than bringing the law to the cartels.
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Snaker
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:33amWords mean things. Very simply, if you are NOT here legally, then you are here il-legally (prefix gets added to mean “not”, i.e. NOT legal, illegal.)
If you came from another country, then you are an immigrant.
Put the two words together, (and yes, I know that’s a real tough task for “some” people,)
and you have illegal (not legal) immigrant.
Stop flucking around with words, people, say what you mean, and mean what you say! Then, DO what you SAY you’re going to do.
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barber2
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:33amHey, dude, if you think your feelings are hurt, how do you think we suckers , the American taxpayers who fund your illegal activities feel ? Especially when we see your people involved in crime ? in ruining our economy ?
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Stiggs
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:31amThere is a process of entering this country legally. Use it.
I can play the word game, too. Let’s look at the word reporters – I’d like to redefine it, too, but this board has a tool that won’t let you type certain verbage.
But that’s just my take on it…
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U.N.hater
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:43amDon’t matter to me. I personally YELL as loud as i can everytime i see them cutting grass putting on a roof. Where ever i see them. Even in the grocery store useing a EBT card. Everyone just stares. I tell those who give me a dirty look. What’s wrong you scared to stand up you affraid? I tell them that’s why their still here and more keep comeing in because people don’t have the guts to stand up for their own country. This is my country not yours and you need to get the f-uck out! Soon we will force you out! Stand up and fight for your country. <<< Can't believe that even has to be said.
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ConstantineTheConservative
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:46amHow true.
How much longer must we endure foreigners running this country? Yet this president, who gleefully allows this trend to continue, is still leading in the polls!
What will it take to get America to wake up?!
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Obama Bin Lying
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:31amI am sure Liberals want to change the terminology. They hate the truth to begin with. If you are commiting a crime, then you are a criminal.
From now on, illegal aliens are now going to be refered too as “UnRegistered Democrats”
How much more simple do they want it?
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USA5
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 12:07amWhat the H ell does politicizing a political issue mean?
This isn’t a political issue, it is our USA laws. This is our Country, we who are citizens are Americans.
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ZAP
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:31am‘Dehumanizes and Marginalizes’,so what
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Swalker
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:30amPerhaps “Criminal” would be a better term. Just how is it that the truth should be controlled, if there was an issue of lies involved then he might have a point but the truth is they are here because a crime was committed and they need to resolve that by returning to their homeland and trying to follow the law. If they are such patriots why do they not correct the failings in their own home land and make that a better place to live, no they want to come here to the land of the free and change our ways. Some how I just have no sympathy with their position. I did not ask them here, the law is clear on how to come here and they need to make it right or repair the country they came from and have a better life there. if they can not attempt to do that what value do they have here. All I see is how they want to change our ways to meet their needs, not what I call the American way.
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jdtanker
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:29amShut up about it already. Breaking our laws means it’s illegal. Can I go downtown and rob a bank when my kids are hungry? Nope! It’s ILLEGAL. That’s what they are doing. Coming here and robbing us by sucking from our social programs. Come in the front door or stay put and change your own country for the better. Illegals are up in our wilderness too, growing pot and cooking meth. I’ve seen it.
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RebelPatriot
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:29am12 million illegals in our country and I, a tax paying father of five get a ticket for no seatbelt.
If nothing else we should fine illegals $500 a month until they either gain proper status to be here or leave.
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Stiggs
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:34amI like your suggestion.
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OccamsSword
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 7:06pmI also like your idea, but there is way more than 12 million.
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mike551
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:29amWe have better names in Ga. ….. felon. IMPEACH THE MUSLIM OBAMA NOW!!! WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
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barber2
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:28amJust another Far Left Obama definition ” change.” No. If you are in the country illegally, you are NOT an American. You are an alien. An illegal intruder. A breaker of the law. A criminal. ( A rose by any other name, dude….)
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Babci
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:25amPresident Eisenhower called them “wet backs”…perhaps that would be better than illegal immigrants?
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Bum thrower
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:34amMost of the time the water is kinda low in the Rio Grande; maybe ‘wet foot’ would be more appropriate. What we need to do is have a ‘pre amnisty list’; get on the list and be first in line.
Then, the Romney Administration has a head start on deportation. Like the ‘dreamers’; they’ll be the first one’s out the door in 2013!!
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grimmster
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:35am@Babci.
See my post as to why he called them that.;p
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USA5
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 12:15amOk …please, no reason to encourage insult to individuals.
I grew up hearing the term ‘Wet Back’, it was used by Americans in the agriculture community I grew up in. It was considered insulting. I personally do not care to go to insulting people.
The law is the law, they are here illegally.
What this Vargas is doing is just another piece of what already exist in California. Gov. Brown giving illegals rights, denying US citizens their rights. California is being handed over to Mexico, that is where the battle is….not with this Vargas.
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Stelex
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:24amHow about the people in our local communities call out the Illegal immigrants. How about our Government do its job. How about you all come on in through the front door. How about that your Illegal Jagov.
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barber2
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:29amHave an idea : NOBAMA 2012 NO DEMOCRATS 2012
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Stelex
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:37amGood Idea…….lets make it happen. I’m fed up
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txannie
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:23amCan someone explain, in a rational manner, why it is ok to come to America illegally and be outraged when called illegal and asked to leave or be deported when if you are picked up for being illegal in their country you not only get called names but thrown in prison and it ok in that country? America is not allowed to protect it’s own borders buy other countries can? Explain it.
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RebelPatriot
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:45amBecause the progressive socialist need their illegal votes in order to gain office. This is why they fight for the rights of criminals to be legalized in our country.
I just go a ticket in my neighborhood for no coming to a complete stop at a stop sign, but yet I can come across the border without stopping and gaining legal access and I can protest the fact I am called an illegal with out as much as a fine.
This is what is wrong in America, government gone completely out of control, passing laws that don’t serve the people and not enforcing laws that benefit those attempting to gain control of our government.
When this administration began selecting what laws were to be enforced and what laws weren’t going to be enforced it simply turned our nation into a monarchy. When the opinion of one man is honored above those opinions of the citizens of the land you have tyranny.
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:45amWe should be truthful call outsiders who break our laws and invade “illegal undocumented immigrants” or maybe even “illegal undocumented alien immigrants”.
Or we can keep it simple “illegal aliens”… They are breaking laws and are not citizens of the United Stated. They do not have a right to vote, although many are voting illegally, or being allowed to vote illegally or through unconstitutional laws.
Also we are not dehumanizing them, nor are we marginalizing them. To marginalized would be to forget about them, ignore them, and allow them to exist in the fringe. What we need to do is “focus” on them, “expose” them, and expel them back to their own countries.
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USA5
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 12:25amIt is an manipulation to have American’s concede to their “Will’
Mexico, Mexicans want and consider California belonging to them.
It is a conspiracy, it is a mind set of arrogance.
What do the Americans, individuals, Ca legislature, Ca Gov. Ca City officials have to gain from it?
Some a delusion of power. Others I haven’t a clue.
And then you have the innocents, illegals being used for political gain, for drug smuggling, or worse.
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