Houston Police Officer Fatally Shoots Unarmed Double Amputee in a Wheelchair
(TheBlaze/AP) — A Houston police officer shot and killed a one-armed, one-legged man in a wheelchair Saturday inside a group home after police say the double amputee threatened the officer and aggressively waved a metal object that turned out to be a pen.
Police spokeswoman Jodi Silva said the man cornered the officer in his wheelchair and was making threats while trying to stab the officer with the pen. At the time, the officer did not know what the metal object was that the man was waving, Silva said.
She said the man came “within inches to a foot” of the officer and did not follow instructions to calm down and remain still.
“Fearing for his partner’s safety and his own safety, he discharged his weapon,” Silva told The Associated Press.
Police did not immediately release the name of the man who was killed. They had been called to the home after a caretaker there called and reported that the man in wheelchair was causing a disturbance.
The owner of the group home, John Garcia, told the Houston Chronicle that the man had a history of mental illness and had been living at the house about 18 months. Garcia said the man had told him that he lost a leg above the knee and all of one arm when he was hit by a train.
“He sometimes would go off a bit, but you just ignore it,” Garcia told the newspaper.
Silva identified the officer as Matthew Jacob Marin, a five-year veteran of the department. He was immediately placed on three-day administrative leave, which is standard in all shootings involving officers.
Houston police records indicate that Marin also fatally shot a suspect in 2009. Investigators at the time said Marin came upon a man stabbing his neighbor to death at an apartment complex and opened fired when the suspect refused to drop the knife.
On Saturday, Marin and his partner arrived at the group home around 2:30 a.m. Silva said there were several people at the house at the time. The caretaker who called police waited on the porch while the officers went inside, she said.
“It was close quarters in the area of the house,” Silva said. “The officer was forced into an area where he had no way to get out.”
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Comments (186)
Kelly Henderson
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:54pmIf a police officer is that afraid of a disabled person then he should be working at a drive-thru window at Hardee`s.Unarmed.If this shooting is justified then none of us are safe.If this is a justified shooting then the victim is a crazy *******.Anyone want to bet?
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freeberty
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:59pmWhat makes you think a government union parasite would have the work ethic to make in as a drive-thru cashier?
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The_Jerk
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:01pmGot what he deserved if this story is true.
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freeberty
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:07pmJerk
I must have missed that part in this story by the blaze, do you have the link where the cop was arrested and charged with murder?
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Zer0
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:56pmBloody NAZI’s….hopefully America will grow tired of the police state and demand government (federal, state, and local) respect their sovereignty and their rights.
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Walkabout
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:12pmLook at the picture. It shows a house. This was a domestic disturbance call. Those are the worst.
Yes it is a pen, It looks like a pen & those have been made into zip guns & zip guns have killed people.
I’ll side with the officer on this one.
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freeberty
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:25pmWalkabout
With your uncanny deductive reasoning ability and obvious superior intelligence it’s no wonder your in the fast lane to become chief of parasites.
Thanks for making it so clear what the freedom loving taxpayers are actually paying for.
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RANGER1965
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 12:34amI’m not happy at what seems to be a national plague of police brutality, incompetence, and arrogance either. More and more stories seem to be coming out of policemen acting like little armed rulers, or just plain stupid.
But this story doesn’t fall into this category. There’s no evidence that this officer was an arrogant little prig looking to make someone suffer, nor did he empty multiple clips into the guy and hit 20 bystanders like those New York police officers did recently.
This looks to me like one of those Oh crap! moments that sneak up on you, rather than incompetence or worse.
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BlazingPatriot
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 12:41amFreeberty
One has to question why you have such contempt and disdain for the police. Or is it a feeble mind that causes you to feel this way?
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BryanB
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 2:20amWhat you have here is a Police Officer that is terrified of people.
I’m not making excuses for him, he shot and killed someone that didn’t need to die. But it’s obvious to me, that no one helped him through the first shooting (counseling), and this is the results of having no one to talk too.
In the old days the Police Officer would sit down with Chaplain and other Police Officers that had been involved in shootings, and work through it. Now days it’s you and a Psychiatrist, and a lot of Cops have a problem with what is knowen as The Rubber Gun Squad. So they usually will not talk to the Psychiatrist.
You can’t just shoot and kill people, and not have it bother you. Even if you kill really really bad people, it’s still going to trouble your heart……..
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DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 8:11amWhat we have here is an unconstitutional permanent standing army. No cop has ever kept an oath because their mere existence violates that oath. Support ELECTED sheriffs and their deputies only. True LEOs should be afraid of losing their job if the do it poorly. The should also face a citizenry that is armed AT LEAST as well as they are.
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lordjosh
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 8:54amThis is a case where the people need to know and exercise their right to justice. The victim’s(suspect to the compliant media)family needs to know that they can bring this cop to a court of Law, out of his protections afforded to revenue agents in his civil capacity, where the facts can be vetted for a jury to decide.
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Individualism
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 10:12amyour more likely to be killed by a cop than a terrorist o wait there behind 99 percent of those attacks in this country.
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kenboo1
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 3:27pmBlazingPatriot : One has to question why you have such contempt and disdain for the police. Or is it a feeble mind that causes you to feel this way?
The police have earned the disdain we feel for them. there are multiple videos on youtube that show police brutality and abuse of their arrest powers. The judiciary and legislative branches of government have given them more power to harass and intimidate and now it appears murder…
Blazing Patriot your probably one of those police who think they are above the law and should be allowed to intimidate and make the life or death call that only a certified police officer can make especially concerning a pen…
When police violate a person’s 4th amendment right to freedom from unreasonable search and seizure, much like the biker arrested in Dallas Texas because the police wanted to use his helmet cam for evidence, what sanctions does the police officer face? Let me give you a hint… NOTHING… Even though a person is arrested for no reason and detained (in this case 8 hours) nothing happens to police officer for abusing his authority… Until the police officer has something to lose for being wrong, there will not be a change in their arrogance and disdain for the 4th amendment.
In the case of shooting a double amputee in a wheelchair, can’t wait to read the report on that one… Yeah, it could have been a zip gun… show me a zip gun that can be operated with one hand…
This was just murder by co
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Bluefish49
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 4:30amAs a good union member he cannot be touched….crazy.
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SIXFRIGATES
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:48pm“Unarmed Double-Amputee”.. Really? omfg. Hilarious.
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burned at edges
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:48pmI guess the pen is not mightier than the gun? (sarc) Where is Obama stating the officers acted stupidly?
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burned at edges
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:08pmOh and the headline is obviously wrong. He was missing one leg and one arm so this double amputee was obviously armed.
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blackyb
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:07pmProbably had the pen between his toes.
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piper60
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:47pmGeees,guys. Would it hurt anything for you to LOOK before you shoot?
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Lord_Frostwind
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 3:05amWell, you got about twenty seconds or less to identify the target, decide what he is carrying, draw your weapon, aim and shoot. Try one of those “shoot don’t shoot” scenarios sometime, they can be enlightening.
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kenboo1
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 3:40pmYeah this scenario should be in the training… It would be the no brainer scenario… If your a cop with two arms and two legs with combat training, you should be able to take the pen away from a one armed, one legged man in a wheelchair… If you can’t do that, you have no business carrying a gun because a two armed two legged man could take it from you…
There is no excuse for this shooting, there is no way they can justify it… He should be arrested for murder by the officer who witnessed it…
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Cavy from VA
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 8:41pmI was going to be a cop … I found out that there were too many “cowboys” in there for my taste … We had an officer shoot a dog while on a domestic call … turns out it was a very small terrier who was just doing the dogs job … protecting his home from a stranger … the cop was wearing boots!! The poor dog was about 6 inches tall!!! He is no longer a cop … not in our town at least … seems that some of them just live for the opportunity to use their “power” … now we have not seen the results of the “investigation” so I’ll reserve my final judgement … but this one smells bad from the start … especially with the previous history of this officer … You can’t claim “slipsies” when it comes to death. Was he really that scared??? … maybe he should be doing something else for a living!!
TEA!!!
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pissantno.10
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:47pmim not going to commit to any side but i have worked in houstan alot . there are some people there that will scare the heck out of you they may have no legs or arms and they will still try and rob you
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capitalideals
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:45pmThis time, the one armed man didn’t get away with it.
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Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 1:57amoof
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TJexcite
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:44pmThe Truth has no agenda but this report is full of it as it does not say the whole truth but bits of it.
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kenboo1
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:43pmMost cops don’t have the sense God gave a tick. They all have egos bigger than any Presidential Candidate and that includes our own Imam in Chief Obama… They look at every citizen as a potential criminal, and if you look at them wrong your targeted… We are in a police state that is not going away anytime soon… Why are crimes against a police officer so much more egregious than a crime against a normal citizen??? When police abuse is evidenced and recorded nothing is done about it. Take the biker in Dallas TX, who was arrested just so the police could take his camera off his helmet. Has anything been done about that???
When police commit crimes it is generally swept under the rug… This cop should get the death penalty unless evidence points out that the now dead citizen had in his hand a gun pointed at the person he was choking with his one leg… WTF???
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HoosierGal
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:11pmSo agreed.
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TJexcite
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:40pmA lot missing in this report.
What type of group home is it. Was it one for people with diminished mental capacity and missed his meds or had no meds that would help. Why is and is it the standard procedure to call the police when a member of the group house is making a disturbance and not properly prepared and trained personal there to deal with this type of person and not be armed with anything but tasers or pepper spray with the cops there for backup to take him to jail if needed.
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/HPD-officer-fatally-shoots-man-in-wheelchair-3885848.php
This report has it that he was schizophrenic and coming at the officers. “He was approaching them aggressively,” one does not approach in a wheel chair and not with an artificial leg. Did he have artificial leg and could walk or just the sensational headline that he was shot in the wheelchair and push the agenda that cops are out of control.
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drs1969
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:14pmGroups homes are the new ‘Insane Asylums’. I had a relative who was moved out of an asylum and put into a group home back in the 80′s. She was raped once, that we heard about, and robbed several times. The attackers, in these instances, were black and never charged. I’m sure this guy was probably black, too.
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rawmilker
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:29pmCops out of control. Since Obama has unleashed the police state, cops everywhere think they’ve been given a free pass to kill citizens for the most minor of disturbances. These unprofessional cops see the corruptness at the top Holder, Obama, Napolitano also getting a free pass so they think they can kill and beat the charges of cold blooded murder.
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:20pmdoesn’t matter how crazy the guy was. He was wheelchair bound, had one arm. Hpw do you get trapped by a guy like that? kinda hard to wheel the chair and assault with a pen at the same time. How could the officer not take the item from him? He is a P***y with a capital P. He should not be allowed to be a cop and he should go to jail. I am surprised he didn’t unload 40 rounds into this guy, just to make sure…
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hblarson
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:40pmIt’s called “contempt of cop” for which immediate “street justice” is likely.
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olddog
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:36pmSorry to say but check to internet over the last few months, police have killed Far More than criminal have, like 10 to 1. I’m more afraid of police than the criminals at this point..
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GodFearingMama
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:52pmI guess I agree but with bit of sorrow.. Can’t say it’s a job I would want when I know there’s a target on my chest and I have kids at home… They have acted as if there on edge and overdoing lately.. My question is if they were ordered to enforce Marshall law how far would they they go before they jump to our side and defend citizens before government intrests
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MDECKER
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:00pmI’d rather have more cops killing criminals than criminals killing cops. Just sayin.
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GodFearingMama
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:17pmI do apologize for the spelling and grammar in the previous comment .. It’s been a rough week.. But all the comments on this page makes me wonder what the cop would say.. I’m sure it’s a tough job to have to live with killing anyone.. Especially after finding out the crippled man was unarmed.. Not exactly a criminal MDECKER just a guy having a bad day and obviously not such a great life to be an amputee
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Lord_Frostwind
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 3:03amHmmh, I like that ratio, now if only criminals could learn to be afraid of them. By the way, internet statistics aren’t really the most trustworthy thing in the world, they’re only a tad more trustworthy than MSNBC stats.
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NO_MORE_OBAMA
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:28pmOMG you can’t make this stuff up. The PIGS kill another helpless person.
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U.N.hater
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:06pmUpside down US flag as an avatar? And you call the police Pig’s? For the flag alone you can go F–K! yourself!
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SidneyDave
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:46pmU.N.Hater – do you know the meaning of an upside down flag? I think not base on your comment.
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U.N.hater
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:03pmNope just look’s disrespectful to me and the pig comment didn’t help much either. Don’t beleive in useing our flag to make a point either. I just have alot of respect for our flag. Alot of people fought for the respect of that flag. Just touchy about it is all. If you like i could just change my comment to the Pig’s comment.
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Eastinfection
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:24pm@ UN.. upside down U.S. flag is a distress signal- a call for help, nothing unpatriotic about it… in fact sometimes it’s quite the opposite.
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U.N.hater
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:42pm@EAST: Thank You learn something everday on here. Still didn’t like the pig’s part thow. We may very well live in a police state but not all of them are bad. My grandfather was cheif of police in a small southeast missouri town for 20 years. Never met one person who didn’t have something nice to say about him.
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Jenny Lind
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:23pmI hate to say this, but insted of being in charge, police are afraid and over reacting. How many are afraid, hard to say, but as criminals are more out of control, expect more shoot first, question later. This man never should have died. Goin into a group home other controls should have been in place, including tasers. This is sad. it’s going to get worse.
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Mil-Dot
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 11:48amThis is all part of an orchestrated process the cops are following to ATTEMPT to scare the public into obeying them on command, like dogs do. Cops pull up, you have a toothpick in your hand so “BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM!!!!!!!! There, that’ll make anybody think twice about trying to assault an LEO with a deadly weapon”.
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ChillOutPeople
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:17pmTaser, anyone? If you actually feel threatened (by a man in a wheel chair with one leg and one arm), why not use a taser instead of a gun?
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grayling646
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:38pmCompletely agree. However, why is it that all of you who question this shooting always leave out the part where the cop was cornered and being attacked with a deadly weapon. You laugh but I’ll bet you won’t let me stab you with an ink pen. Arm chair quarterbacking is the easiest thing in the world to do.
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:20pmKinda sounds like suicide-by-cop. The suicide didn’t take when he tried it by train. He had a history of mental illness. You can play “Monday morning quarterback” all you want, but until you walk a mile in the shoes of a police officer, you really don’t understand. BTW, I am not, nor ever have been, in law enforcement, nor have any relatives in it.
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mr.goodvibe
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:17pmThere are daily reports here in Houston of officer involved shootings, I think theses guys are getting trigger happy, taser probably would have worked against a man in a wheelchair.
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jumbles
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:37pm“Cornered by a guy in a wheelchair with two missing limbs armed with a pen” and you think that a healthy man trained to deal with “real” life threatening situations truly has an excuse for shooting him.You have either lived a very sheltered life or you are a little girl.
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:25pmGray-
How do you get cornered by a one armed wheel chair riding maniac? Talk about zero situational awareness. Should not be on the police force.
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kenboo1
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 10:04pmGray, Sit in a wheelchair with one arm and one leg tied up so it is equal (I’m assuming you have both your arms and legs) to the poor man who died and it wouldn’t take me one second to take that deadly pen out of your hand and in two seconds your hand would be cuffed to the chair. I don’t want to hear that Bull S___ from you or anyone about how this man was a danger to these cops (yes there were atleast 2 cops there) It was the second cop that shot the dangerous amputee…… WTF???
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grimmster
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:16pmAlthough it seems on the outside to be more than excessive force,i have to put into question and article that has more than one news scorce involved, especially the AP……..Makes me wonder how much of the information, was cherry picked…..
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DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:14pmOops…..
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LiberalAlways
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:13pmAbsolutely outrageous. I’ve worked in group homes, yes people can get out of hand, but a one armed, one legged individual with a pen? This officer needs to be fired and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
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subic
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:32pmLooks like Officer Marin is a blood thirsty authoritarian rouge cop. Any cop that cannot subdue an unarmed wheelchair bound double amputee without a taser or pepper spray needs to go be a mall cop without a weapon.
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CHROME_PLATED_HEART
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:11pmMall cop? I was thinking inmate.
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Hiswill
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:15pmHe could have been shot in the leg, had his wheelchair tipped over. I think there were other alternatives there that should have been explored before he was shot dead. I agree we don’t have all the facts. I don’t want to pull an Obama and say the cops acted supidly, but a double amputee, pleeeze.
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U.N.hater
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:10pmHe has one arm one leg and in a wheelchair and you shoot him? The police is not your freind. They are nothing more than union thug’s above the law. Police in my city used to take people to a dead end road at the river and would beat them silly and leave them there. This is a police state.
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grayling646
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:21pmYou must’ve missed the part that talked about the suspect trying to stab (kill) him with a pen. You’re obviously not aware that a weapon such as an ink pen can kill you. I bet you dismiss this as silly/stupid but I’ll also bet you won’t let me stab you with an ink pen.
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U.N.hater
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:37pmWhy couldn’t the other officer just grab his arm when the other officer had him distracted. And why did you pick me out of everyone else to respond to? Because of my personal story about the police or that they are union thugs? Are you a police officer or a union thug? Or both?
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subic
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:41pmGRAY, I’ll bet you I won’t let you stab me with an ink pen, especially if you’re an invilid in a wheel chair,,the cop is a puss!
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grayling646
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:50pm@ Psy: I’ve always thought it funny when people play badass on the internet. Actually, it’s very stupid. Only idiots do silly crap like that. And just so you’ll know how skerd I am, I’m the one who turned you in.
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Psychosis
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:01pm@ grey
turned me in???
to who?
your mommy?????
im old school, my word is my honor , i dont need to be an “internet tough guy” im not a metrosexual so i still know how to ball my fist up and as clint would say, MAKE YOUR DAY
A PEN (held by a one armed one legged man in a wheel chair) VERSUS A TRAINED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER should have ended up with that one arm handcuffed to his one ankle and a great big busted nose
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kenboo1
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:14pmGray: Are you condoning this? You don’t have any sense if you are… This cop needs to hung at sun up tomorrow for murder and no common sense. He damn sure doesn’t ever need to strap on a gun again… You don’t think there was a better way??? Well i guess there’s an empty bed at the home now…
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grayling646
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:45pm@ psy, there you go…being funny again. By the way, take it from someone who’s been there, done that. You’re the one who’ll pay for your hate and anger. Other people may suffer because of it but you will be the one who pays for it eventually.
@ ken, my initial reply was to point out that u n hater had drawn his conclusion while ignoring certain aspects of the story. With many people whenever there’s a cop involved incident it’s always the cops fault and they’ll tell any lie, omit any evidence to prove that. That was my initial point as anyone with half a brain can see if they read the reply. Maybe you should go back and read it again, Ken.
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chips1
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:49pmKEN:
You just described Sheria Law. You must be a *******.
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burningsodium
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:58pmgrayling -you have the IQ of a fish. A person with the right training can kill you with his index finger. Assault by Ballpoint is ridiculous. He couldn’t out maneuver a wheelchair bound amputee? He couldn’t draw his stick and whack him – ? He has never had training for defense? His partner couldn’t run in and do anything but draw a gun and aim for a lethal area? You are defending stupidity and looking the same by doing so.
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proliance
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:20pmGrayling, let’s make a deal. I put my .45 on my hip and you try to stab me with a pen. I bet my .45 never clears leather, I get a nasty scratch, and we both walk away. OK, maybe you have a broken jaw, but we still leave without calling the coroner.
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grayling646
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:21pmBottom line kids:
Armchair quarterbacks are a dime a dozen. I’m willing to admit that I’m one of them. Anyone else willing to ‘fess up?
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grayling646
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:27pmLOL prolance…another internet badass. So funny.
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freeberty
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:36pmWhy would you guys argue with these government union parasites?
The reason they a defending such a ridiculous position is because you have been feeding, clothing, and housing them and their parasitic families for so long they would be as useful as a broodmare in section 8 if they had to make it on their own in the free market.
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booger71
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:38pmAll cops wear which will repel an ink pen and a knife for that manner. This officer should have learned in the academy how not to get backed into a corner “without an exit.”
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Something is Wrong
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 3:54amI am seeing a lot of “this cop must be guilty” on here and it makes me glad that none of you are our justice system. Innocent until proven guilty right? Now, granted there is a dead man who might have some sway in this but I think it’s at least worth it to look at things from the cop’s perspective as well. The story states that the cop has killed before and that it was somebody who was stabbing their neighbor to death and wouldn’t drop their knife. I guarantee you that experience left a permanent impression on the cop. Certainly the cop over-reacted but I wouldn’t find it surprising at all if as that cop found somebody swinging something he couldn’t identify at him he had a flashback to that stabbing and then over-reacted in fear/panic to the situation at hand. Did the stabbing victim die and the cop felt afterwards that if only he had reacted sooner he could have saved a life? I don’t know but it isn’t too far outside the realm of believability. Has this cop since then adopted a view that quicker more decisive reactions save lives? Again, I don’t know but if either one of those is true they would seriously affect this situation. I am certain though that he isn’t Beelzebub in a uniform. Innocent until proven guilty; let’s all stop jumping the gun here or we’re no better than a cop who can’t keep his head level and his reactions in check.
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pissantno.10
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:10pmi dont know if you people have every been to houston but it is either real nice people or some one from another planet and there are more people from another planet than nice people.
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drs1969
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 9:21pmLast time I was there was ’95. Two things I remember. One was a weird acting guy, in Katy, who stared at me the whole time I was eating in a restarant. The other was a nut trying to run me off the road the last day I was there. I agree with your assessment.
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mr.goodvibe
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 10:23pmDepends on what part you visit, Greenspointe used to be nice and away from the city center and noe it is overun with thug wannabes, you just have to stay away from the ” vunnables “
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pissantno.10
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:04pmonly in houston man i hate that town
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grimmster
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:12pm@pissantno.10 aka encinom.
You have never been to Houston you idiot,now, back to moms basement with you moron……
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The Gooch
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:13pmNope. The entire state of TX is presenting with a rash of these stories lately. Can’t let the buffoons in L.A. have all the fun.
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SteamedinMichigan
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:04pmAre you freaking kidding me?!?!?!?!?
Honestly?
A guy in a wheel chair, with one arm and one leg “corners” an officer of the law and makes him fear for his life…..all by using a PEN?
Give me a FREAKING BREAK
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whatthecrazy
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 11:40pmIll drink to that……………………
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RamonPreston
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 1:48amLooks like he brought a pen to a gun fight. This whole thing is stupid on the part of the cops. Let’s drag a few more old ladies out of their cars. This country has gone nuts.
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Teufel Hunden
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:02pmThey say a the “pen” is mightier than the “sword”. Maybe he’ll use that defense. Rotsa Ruck!
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N37BU6
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:00pmCould have been a needle…
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The Gooch
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 8:11pmGood grief. There is CLEARLY a problem with the mentality of cops in TX. You’re in a group home with a wheelchair bound man who is missing two of his limbs. Yeah, lighting him up seems reasonable.
This is why if my hand is ever forced to defend my family, own life or property, I DARE any boy in blue to challenge my actions. I’ll quote N37BU6: “I thougth he had a needle.”
“Oh, well. You did the right thing. We smoke people all the time when we think they have needles. Or pens. Good job, citizen.” Yeah, I’m sure that’ll be exactly how such a scenario would play out.
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N37BU6
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 5:28amI did security for 3 years. One summer of that job was patrolling the worst street in my city, on foot, with only cuffs and a 26″ baton. I worked alongside 2 beat cops and a mobile unit, but they were usually 2-3 minutes away at any given time.
Let me tell you: I would have easily shot 2 people if I had had a gun. Our guards were routinely attacked with needles, and in my case, a machete brandished openly and an alleged gun in a pocket. The individual who stated he had a gun got his forearm broken by me, after 3 clear warnings. If I had had a gun, he would possibly be dead.
These situations, no matter how innocuous they sound on paper, especially from reporters who sensationalize and demonize for ratings, are never that cut-and-dry. Have you ever been in a group home? Do you have any idea how violent and irrational some of the people in them can be? Ever been attacked with a dirty hypodermic needle? Things happen fast. The lighting is not always the best. When it’s your life or theirs, and you’re backed into a corner, what are you going to do?
Attack a cop, or any other armed citizen, and you risk getting shot. It’s that simple.
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Gary_K
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 7:59pmThe police are getting out of control and it will not change until the criminal police are treated just like anyone else. Try, convict and jail.
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Psychosis
Posted on September 22, 2012 at 7:59pmthis is ridiculous
a one armed and one legged man?????
LOCK THE WHEELS ON HIS WHEELCHAIR AND TAKE A STEP BACK
there was absolutely no reason to shoot him all you had to do was take a step back
this happens because of whats called ” escalation risk” .cops want submission within seconds, anything longer than that and they start to panic
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Lord_Frostwind
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 3:10amReal question, why did they need to call the police to deal with this situation? Shouldn’t the personnel at the group home have been able to deal with it? It seems everybody and their dog can’t handle situations anymore and call the cops when the neighbor kid looks at them funny.
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N37BU6
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 5:33am“LOCK THE WHEELS ON HIS WHEELCHAIR”
Sounds simple in writing. Now apply it in reality, with someone holding a (perceived) weapon.
If this was the rule of thumb, do you have any idea how many cops would be getting stabbed trying to lock wheelchair wheels?
People in wheelchairs are just that: PEOPLE in wheelchairs. People who are just as capable of killing you if you with edged weapons if you get close enough.
You see, I actually do believe in equality. You dish out special treatment and consider certain people to be inferior.
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Melvin Spittle
Posted on September 23, 2012 at 2:58pmN37BU6, Did you know that as a combat soldier, our rules of engagement in Afghanistan do not allow us to shoot an AK-47 armed civilian unless he points the weapon at us? Why is it that citizens are not protected in the same way? If we used Houston law enforcement rules of engagement in Afghanistan, we would be charged and convicted of a war crime.
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