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Male Vice Principal Under Fire for Paddling Female Teen as Corporal Punishment — Too Far?

Sep. 24, 2012 4:37pm Erica Ritz

Vice Principal Kirt Shaw Spanks Taylor Santos in Texas | Corporal Punishment

Taylor Santos discusses how a male school official was allowed to administer corporal punishment. (Photo: ABC)

A number of grade schools in Springtown, Texas still allow corporal punishment on students. A requirement, however, is that an administrator of the same sex dole out the punishment.

When the classmate of 95-pound, 15-year-old Taylor Santos allegedly copied her homework, Santos says her punishment went over the line.

FoxNews.com relates:

[Male] Vice Principal Kirt Shaw disciplined the girl with a large wooden paddle, which he swung with a violent, upward motion, according to the girl’s mom, Anna Jorgensen.

“She was telling me it was numb and that it burned,” Jorgensen said. “And it looked like a burn. She slept on her side that night. She was more humiliated and embarrassed than anything, but the more she and I thought about it, it wasn’t fair and I thought I needed to do something about it.”

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Shaw first had the girl call her mother to approve the punishment, which is required. Jorgensen said she agreed, but had no idea the whack would come from a man — or be so severe. Jorgensen said her daughter, a cross-country athlete who weighs just 95 pounds, was left with large, blistered wounds on her buttocks.

“I really don’t think he had to hit her that hard,” she said. “I’m not saying he went in to intentionally hurt my daughter, but intentional or not, it did happen.”

WFAA has more:

But rather than condemn the fact that Shaw apparently broke the rules, the school is considering eliminating the requirement that a school official of the same gender administer the punishment.

Springtown ISD Superintendent Mike Kelley reportedly justified the request by saying that the makeup of some of the schools makes it difficult to abide by.

Jorgensern has since revised her stance on corporal punishment, saying she will “never allow it again.”

“I feel like my child has been abused. If I did it to my own kid, [child protective services] would be at my house,” she remarked.

Adding that she is not after money and is not threatening legal action, Jorgensern says she is just trying to look out for what’s best for her kids.

“I think Taylor is proof that we need to keep that policy,” she argued. “I don’t believe a man intentionally meant to do that to her, but it still happens, because men are too big and strong to be hitting 96-pound girls.”

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this1can
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:45pm
I went to a public school that had swimming for my class on Thursday it was part of p e. For some reason all the boys had to swim nude. If you did something wrong your swats would be done on swim day. The couch made you get wet then would stand you on the edge of the pool touching your toes, with a plastic paddle he would swat you. If you fell into the pool that swat didn’t count. Depending on what you did wrong to deserve the swat decided how hard he would hit you to knock you in the pool. It worked,all you had to do is see it happen a couple times. You didn’t jack around in his class. Love/pray

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- gardenerme
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:52pm
  If you are still spanking when your child is a teen, something is not working. You need to rethink it.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:53pm
  ?!! Your therapist must be very, very wealthy.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:57pm
  PS: just a hunch… but i bet “coach” spent plenty of time ” jacking around” after class.
  
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- loriann12
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 6:56pm
  The school is paddling because the parents didn’t when the children were younger. I don’t see what the difference is between a man spanking a teen or a full grown woman paddling a girl or a full grown man paddling a boy. We had corporal punishment in my gradeschool, and no one wanted to get in trouble. They had you bend over at the front of the class and grab your ankles, or took you in the hall with another teacher as a witness. We had all women teachers and they paddled both.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 7:13pm
  @LORAIN.. the difference is this: when you were in school, EVERYONE was subject to corporal punishment at home. It was an even playing field. Beatings at home are now rare unless you grow up in a poverty- stricken household- like The Projects. When kids who get hit go to school- they are rarely socializing with others that get hit. Because of this, kids who get hit adopt a “victim” posture. It’s not that corporal punishment is “wrong” as much as it’s become “abnormal” and kids subjected to it are looked at as “freak-shows” that deserve sympathy. Kid’s who get beaten are in the minority. It’s a fact. Being a “minority” while being a “victim of physical abuse” is a recipe for failure. This is social evolution. I don’t approve of it but i’ll be damned if i disadvantage MY child over it. The solution is to be more “creative” with your punishment. Use the big brain God gave you.
  
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- guns-an-bibles
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 7:48pm
  If that were my daughter I would spend less time worrying about her behavior then how hard she was spanked. The fact that she was spanked by a male means nothing to me. Being male does not mean you cannot regulate how hard you spank. It sounds like the mother just counteracted everything the girl could have learned. I think she needed exactly what she got. Let the beatings begin!!!
  
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- PASSIONFORCHRIST
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 8:38pm
  nobody has the right to discipline your child except the PARENTS/PARENT. If your willing to give that right away, don’t complain. I would never give that right up!!! Stupid parents!!!!!!!!!
  
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- Chet Hempstead
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 8:59pm
  Yeah, that doesn;t sound right. This is just a hunch, but I suspect that the parents and the school district may not have actually sign off on all of that, and somebody probably should have told them.
  
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- MormonPiper
  Posted on September 25, 2012 at 12:59am
  If you think the basic liberal-biased school admin has the mental ability to not be a j@ck@$$, then you have zero brains.
  
  Personally, if it were my kid, I’d break the S0Bs kneecaps with a tire iron. He woul have to avoid walking by bushes, because I and a ski mask would be waiting behind one of them.
  
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americanfirst
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:39pm
Why don’t we focus on the real problem – the girl cheated. We can look at what proper discipline is but in the end – she cheated.

That parents don’t raise kids well has been a problem in our society for a while.

In the end – disfunctionality IS their punishment for themselves and their posterity.

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- Eastinfection
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:51pm
  Good grief… she let her friend copy her homework. Didn’t you ever go to school? This crap happens all the time. How about giving her a “0″ for the assignment? How about making her stand through the next class instead of sitting? Can’t people be more creative than having a grown man beating a girl?
  
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- MAULEMALL
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:51pm
  Yea so you let a big guy pick up a long paddle and beat your kid.. You’re an idiot..
  
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- Keep Your Skepticals On
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 8:40pm
  “This crap happens all the time. How about giving her a “0” for the assignment?”
  
  Unless I am mistaken the student opted-in to the paddling specifically to avoid discipline that would affect her grades. Also: How common a misbehavior is is irrelevant – discipline should always be enforced.
  
  I think the real issue here is the line between discipline and abuse. The mother is probably right in that if she had left similar marks on her daughter and the school caught wind of it (atleast the ones up here in WA) would have CPS on the case, and that is the problem. Many look at any type of physical contact as “a beating” and others excuse abuse as discipline.
  
  Like any discipline, physical or mental, it should be kept as mild and controlled as possible that still remains effective. If a swat is what it takes to get their attention, it’s better than letting the behavior thrive beyond repair.
  
  In this case, she probably should have just been given a ’0′ for the assignment. It was an acedemic rule she broke so an acedemic punishment seems fit as she seems concerned about it. Other who don’t care about grades would need something different.
  
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joejohey
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:37pm
I am SICKENED by the fact that 40% of people want corporal punishment in schools! NO child should ever be physically assaulted, let alone a 15 year old girl, by anyone for any reason…ever! Makes me really question what direction are the moral compasses of some people pointing.

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- normalmom
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 7:40pm
  Schools have gone down hill since hacks were taken out. I work on a school bus I see rude disrespectful kids all the time things are not better. If they were to bring back actual punishment at schools especially grade school you wouldn’t have the ows crap, you would have hard working young people for the most part.
  
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- countrysideflair
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 9:13pm
  I was paddled once in 4th grade for spiting on a kid. Never spit on anyone else AND never did anything mean to other school mates ever again.
  
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MAULEMALL
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:35pm
Yea…. Put your hands on My daughter and your problems will all be over.

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- Eastinfection
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:46pm
  ditto that
  
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- MormonPiper
  Posted on September 25, 2012 at 1:01am
  agreed. No town is big enough for that fool to avoid the payback.
  
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- DeeCee
  Posted on September 25, 2012 at 1:20am
  @MAULEMALL: So what would you do, hit him with your purse?
  
  Gee, I guess I just wasn’t aware that the Blaze has real life crying-bleeding heart liberals who prefer to raise their children as spoiled, undisciplined brats.
  
  The simple fact is that the girl and her mother both agreed to the corporal punishment and now are cry-babying around about it. The tender flesh where the paddle grabs attention is exactly the same for a teenage boy as it is for a teenaged girl… doesn’t matter what the sex is of the person wielding the paddle. A blistering red **** is generally pretty effective in making the point for future reference.
  
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Verceofreason
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:33pm
The VP shouldn”t have said “You like that. you like that and OoooH Baby, during the paddling.

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- Eastinfection
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 6:00pm
  @VERSE ..lol… i believe this may be the 1st time i’ve found one of your posts to be somewhat humorous.
  
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- drs1969
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 10:57pm
  I was wondering if that’s what’s going on. Did he make her pull down her pants? She may think he was getting off on it.
  
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buttpatriot
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:28pm
someone needs to make a spanking machine.

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- Gold Coin & Economic News
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:33pm
  I don’t think I’m going to touch that comment…
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on September 25, 2012 at 9:53am
  They do.
  It’s called Mistress Veronika.
  But she charges $150 an hour.
  
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- RBRTSNN
  Posted on September 25, 2012 at 12:39pm
  ALREADY HAVE ONE!!!
  http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/orc/408390645.html
  
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merik59
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:25pm
I don’t think they use a paddle in our schools anymore. Detention with work around the school would be more effective. They have the kids clean up the trash & graffiti or help the teachers with their classrooms. The work isn’t overly onerous but not how you want to spend your free time. Multiple sentences on the chalkboard is effective also. ‘I will never do that again… I will never do that again… ‘ Suspension isn’t always advisable since the kid gets to stay home & maybe play video games & what kind of deterrent is that? An extra assignment to make up for the one botched also works with some kids because who in their right mind wants extra schoolwork? Standing in a corner with her nose to the wall would be more acceptable than having a male administrator or teacher spank her with a paddle. Detention kids still get teased & there is still a certain amount of stigma attached to staying any additional time at school. It’s still a bummer.

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TOPOFTHEGAME
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:16pm
When I went to school ( in eighth grade ) it was three licks with the paddle (period). And that was just before Christmas. Oh, I forgot ”’a winter holiday”’ and that was for telling a class member who’s name a drew for a Christmas present. Yes, the other student got three licks too

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- U.N.hater
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:27pm
  Education in not a right. Quit forceing people to go to school.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:35pm
  UN buddy…. lol.. hate to laugh, but your post was full of spelling errors and typos….kinda defeats your message a bit?… just saying..
  
  On a positive note… Glenn was talking today about the whole Libyan Ambassador dealing arms thing. You have been fully vindicated. Cheers.
  
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- U.N.hater
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 6:38pm
  Not really i’m self employed and until this pos took office i made 70k+ year. I raised 3 kids also with no education by myself. It depends on the person. School isn’t for everyone. You seem to be able to read what i’m saying wether it’s correct or not. It’s all good on the Lybia thing. I was kinda harsh about it i’ll admit lol. Remember sometimes bad people get what’s comeing to them.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 7:22pm
  @UN.. right there with ya bro…
  
  I’m a single parent with an 8yr-old boy. Kudos to your efforts with 3 kids. Also self-employed. Did massive re-models for people with big wallets till 08 crash. Raked it in. Now i spend more time trying to get work than working… never been eligible for unemployment either because i’ve always been either 1099ed or a biz owner… can’t exactly lay myself off can i?.. Keep the glass 1/2 full much as poss… our ship will come in.
  
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WhiteFang
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:15pm
In the current climate of tolerating rebellious behaviour, there is no way I would be a teacher of other peoples children.

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Angel_light
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:11pm
you’ve got to be kidding me. I can’t justify giving that kind of punishment for copying someone’s homework. let alone beat the kid so hard that they get hurt. I would never approve of anyone else hitting my kids, that will be my job if it’s really deserved. you can give them detention but if you ever touch them you will be my new target practice.

and what kind of paddle did that guy use? if she has blisters then it couldn’t have been a normal flat one…

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- Eastinfection
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:31pm
  I agree. There are smarter ways to punish stupidity. I’ve coached youth sports for years… the kids that literally get their arse whooped at home are the ones always starting fights with the others on the team. The primadonnas that never get punished are horrible too. The kids who behave best are simply the kids who’s parents are involved and insist on yessir/ nossir, thank you, and please. It’s usually enforced by with- holding privileges. One of those parents, when they found out their kid
  “pantsed” a team-mate during practice, made their child scour the woods around the field for an hour picking up litter after a game. Never had a problem with him again.
  
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- drs1969
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 11:04pm
  I knew a girl who would do assignments for $10. I would have spanked her for free!
  
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jungle J
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:09pm
Rats whine hard.

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forthepeople
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:08pm
You cheat you get your @ss paddled.
Stop coddling these youth

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- Verceofreason
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:34pm
  SHE didn’t cheat. Read the article
  
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- KevINtampa
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 6:13pm
  She did cheat. She let someone copy her work, that’s cheating.
  
  Now I know why there’s such a disconnect between people, common logic is missing entirely. Let’s apply a hypothetical using the same logic you suggest to abide to here:
  
  Let’s say I’m a teller at a bank, and I hand over a bunch of money to a buddy of mine. The money didn’t belong to him, and henceforth he went and bought a new car with it. Since it’s him that benefited from it, I shouldn’t be held accountable for my actions in the crime? According to the logic you run your life by, I’m innocent of any wrong doing and didn’t cheat the system?
  
  I will never agree with the 2+2=5 logic you’ve come to cherish. You’ve had all logical sense and critical thinking removed from your thought process Verce; I’m sorry society has failed you so terribly. You must be miserable, life must seem so unfair and incomprehensible with such an illogical mindset. Truth must be impossible for you to recognize. It’s so sad what we’ve done to people that makes many think like you. Breaks my heart, truly. We have got to turn this around for the sake of people like you.
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 9:41pm
  SHe said she didn’t know it was being copied.
  
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Eastinfection
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:07pm
Corporal punishment in schools isn’t supposed to be about pain, it’s supposed to be about humiliation.
It’s only a deterrent if it’s done in front of the rest of the student body and the kid gets teased about it later. It’s a tool for provoking positive peer pressure…. and quite frankly an out- dated one at that.

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- guns-an-bibles
  Posted on September 24, 2012 at 8:57pm
  I’d be willing to bet they weren’t being very honest about the blisters in order to bring more value to their argument.
  
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Just_Us2
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:03pm
When I went to school we had a choice, three days or three swats. She should have been given the choice of suspension. Our principal used to spank behind closed doors, was later arrested for too much touching when spanking the females. I guess the girls were not the only things getting “spanked”.

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Godzgrl247
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 5:02pm
We just had a similar incident here in the Tulsa area recently. In both cases, the parents agreed to the punishment. In both cases, they have complained that their child was spanked too hard. The kid here in Tulsa was a male. I will agree that I would not want a male spanking my daughter but I thought that most schools that use corporal punishment had to have a witness to observe the punishment. I’m sorry though. I’m of the mind that cheating is the same as lying and I cannot tolerate lying. I say beat it out of them before they end up being the kind of adult that no one can stand.

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makingsense
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 4:58pm
What about the cheating? How does one compare cheating to spanking? Cheating shows a lack of character and respect to her fellow classmates taking the test that actually did their homework. She should be spanked … by all those that took the test fairly! Boy, (oh there’s that gender thing again) would that cause some “blisters”?

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perry1980
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 4:57pm
Too Far?

Not Far enough.
You cheat you get your @ss paddled.
Stop coddling these youth
And parents start disciplining your kids and not with “timeouts”

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jamesctheman
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 4:55pm
I live in Texas & had my share. I wasn’t the best kid in school. As far as the severity of the blow that is where I have the issue. Only in extreme cases of misbehavior or fighting were we given paddles. Never to the point it left a burn-like mark. Surely a red mark which disappeared after a couple hours. It sounds as if he took some frustration out which is the most egregious thing you can do as an administrator or parent. This is an instance of needed further investigation but you can’t say the entire idea is flawed. I’d put him on leave & take the paddle away from him.

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OSU Cowboy
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 4:54pm
I think it is definitely wrong for her to be punished by a male counselor. Send her back and have her swatted by a female counselor.

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Female
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 4:51pm
So, what did the girl do?

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QuincySmith
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 4:51pm
Typical left wing/progressive mentality: I agree, but changed my mind after the fact. I’m not responsible.

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SWORD_OF_THE_LORD
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 4:48pm
If that was my daughter, he wouldn’t be making it to work in the moning…

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JACKTHETOAD
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 4:48pm
A blistered ****? I’d like to see a Doctor’s or ER report on that one. More lies from abc. As far as ‘mommy’ goes, she can pack her bags and boogie. T For Texas!

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thegreatcarnac
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 4:47pm
When I was in school girls got paddled just like boys did by whomever the teacher or coach was. It was usually the male coach…99% of the time. Also…the girls could count on the coaches not hitting them as hard as they did the boys.

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normalmom
Posted on September 24, 2012 at 4:44pm
When spankings were taken out of schools the behavior problems took a huge jump in amount. Yes same gender would probably be a good idea. As for the supposed blisters can’t quite see that happening, but a bruise yes. The BI (behavior) programs in my school district took affect they consider those kids special needs, so not only do they get mad easy they are separated from regular kids to get teased even more.

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