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Beck Speaks to 143,000 Catholics About Voting & Politics During Tele-Townhall: ‘God Will Not Hold Us Guiltless’
On Tuesday night, Glenn Beck hosted a tele-townhall for CatholicVote.org on the importance of Catholic voters in the 2012 presidential election. The event, which was moderated by Rachel Campos-Duffy, was held via telephone, with a startling 143,000 people dialing in to participate. During the discussion, Beck discussed everything from personal responsibility at the polls and social justice to the value of human life.
Beck began with the rise of anti-Semitism and anti-Catholicism that has developed of late, while highlighting the fact that these are both issues he’s warned about in the past. He then moved on to one of the central tenets of the Catholic faith that has been manipulated by the left — social justice.
“What has happened over the last 100 years in the social justice movement…there’s a fundamental misunderstanding of what social justice is,” Beck explained. “Social justice, as the pontiff would [see] it, is your responsibility as an individual to listen to the gospel and then act — go and serve.”
However, this is radically different from the worldview that liberals generally embrace. The radio and television host contended that the version of social justice that many progressives tout is incorrectly based on the government acting “on your behalf.”
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Rather than allowing these values to consume the Catholic Church, Beck encouraged believers to stand up for their values. “The Catholic Church is a force for good,” Beck proclaimed.
Later in the discussion, a listener asked, through Campos-Duffy, what she, as a mother, could do to help the current sociopolitical situation. Beck delved into the importance of mothers in paving the way toward a more viable future.
“It is mothers that have raised the sons and the women that have changed the world,” Beck told the Catholic audience, highlighting the notion that this is the most important role a person can fulfill.
In addition to mothers, the popular commentator encouraged every individual to get involved and to speak up for their Catholic faith. The responsibility for everyone, he said, is a great burden.
“God will not hold us guiltless. If you look at what is happening in the Middle East — there is a clear vision of good and a clear vision of evil,” he proclaimed. “You weren’t born at this time for no reason.”
Beck also went on to discuss wealth and his views on why so many mistakingly assume that the Republican Party is merely a political movement exclusively for the rich.
“Nothing on earth will turn this election except for the American people turning to God with all of your hope, all of your strength, everything you have,” he said toward the end of the discussion.
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jwt
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 9:13pmyou are right!!. the second temptation in Luke is where most christians seem to fail. Beck has stated ” we are our brothers keeper” God through Jesus is our keeper – not some gov or organization of man
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westtitus
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 6:16pmNobody get to heaven by works! Maryelizabith needs to read her Bible. Why do you think God sent His only Son to die on a cross for you, so you could do good works! Give me a break! If you know HIm you will do good works and if you do not you will deceive yourself into believing if you do good works he will accept you. He will say get away from me, I never knew you, and that is in the Bible, You migh want to check it out.
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omni3460
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 7:00pmThe bible states “faith without works is dead”….James 2:17 !!
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Female
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 7:26pmThe “get away from me people”, actually, failed in the area of “doing unto the least of these”
Matt 25:45 ….”‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
Catholics tend to be pretty good about covering these especially through financing nuns and priests, except that in the USA they have allowed the government through taxes and welfare. The failure here is to believe it is a “Christian act” However, it is not done in the name of Jesus or through generosity of heart but through compulsion of taxes.
All Christians: As the government has taken over more of what the church use to do; such as educating the children, holding man accountable for supporting their wives and children, sexual immorality, opportunities for real home visits and fellowship, medicine, generosity, employment (prospering the honest). Uncle Sam is now the provider–father and husband to many, and scapegoat to the perpetual man-child who won’t be responsible.. Morality is no longer being based on scripture but on voting those who support and approve of sexual sin, laziness, femine rebellion, and abandonment of our created purpose for the power, esteem, applause, possessions, pleasures, lusts, and filthy $$$. We have become a nation doing what is “right in our own eyes”. We are filled with lustful eyes/ flesh, & PRIDE.
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spotcoon
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 7:29pm54% of Catholics couldn’t get enough obama. So, THEY elected him——-Now he (obama) tells them “Pound Eucharistic Sand and Do It My Way, or Else!”
Can you finally see the damage you’ve caused this country?
Thanx, AGAIN !
Get used to seeing this post—-It’s meant to “inspire”.
BTW,
Isn’t your Chief Justice a “practicing Catholic” ?
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rockmanlinux
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 8:33pmOn top of James 2. How about being commanded to “keep my commandments” a ton of times throughout the bible?
That is consider faith and work.
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Universal333
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 9:16pmYou really need to read your bible before posting……… James Chapter 2: 14-18
What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister has nothing to wear and has no food for the day, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, keep warm, and eat well,” but you do not give them the necessities of the body, what good is it? So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead. Indeed someone might say, “You have faith and I have works.” Demonstrate your faith to me without works, and I will demonstrate my faith to you from my works.
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destrecht
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 11:05pmWhile there is some truth to that, James 2:24 . You have to do works as well.
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TheyMustBeStopped
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 5:46pmAmazing job Glenn reaching out to Catholic voters! You won back my respect sir.
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Eric_The_Red_State
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 5:24pmWhen “Booger” can take time out from hammering down a 6-pack and watching “real world” to go vote for the leader of the most powerful nation on earth… . . . . . we have something wrong.
AND when Mr FOOD STAMPS can vote for the guy who is handing out food stamps – paid for with my hard earned money ……. . .. . . . . . we have something wrong.
AND when the PRESIDENT can wipe is @$$ with the constitution and nobody gets up and throws the guy out on his **** ………. . . . .. . . we have something wrong.
AND when our schools fail our students and they want a darned RAISE in pay ……… we have something wrong.
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Godzgrl247
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 5:09pmI get so tired of reading “just write in your vote!” Many states including mine, do not allow write in votes! In the state of Oklahoma, you will not see any third party candidates on the ballots. The whole thing is a sham!
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 7:38pma sham indeed. From primary to finish
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ChrisSmith
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:57pmAs a Catholic Republican, when I talk to Catholic Democrats who are concerned about the Obama administration’s threat to religious liberty (or “war on religious liberty”), I say this: If you’re a Democrat who can’t vote for a Republican, then just do a “write-in” vote. When you go to vote, just write in “Hillary Clinton.” She would have made a much better president than Obama, anyway. Here’s Hillary Clinton on July 30, 2012: “Religious freedom is also about the right of people to think what they want, say what they think, and come together in fellowship without the state looking over their shoulder. That’s why the free exercise of religion is the first freedom enshrined in our First Amendment along with the freedoms to speak and associate, because where religious freedom exists so do the others.”
Hey, Hillary? Would you mind going over to the Oval Office to repeat those words for your boss? He doesn’t seem to understand the First Amendment OR the U.S. Constitution. http://www.know7things.com/holiness.html
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 5:02pmand if they cant vote for a republican, they can vote for Gary Johnson. Of the candidates, he has the strongest position on protection of liberties
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THERAPTURCOMES
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 5:11pmMormonism and Catholicism are both cults as the resurrection/rapture will soon show. You should run from Catholicism as fast as you can before it is to late
The Eucharist is straight from hell just as calling the Pope Holy Father as well as praying to Mary and the saints for intercession.
Utterly Evil
http://youtu.be/ahEVxIzlxwo
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 5:36pmSoyburger: Instead of continually harping on Gary “I will NEVER win” Johnson, why dont you just paste a bumper sticker on your forehead that declares your stupidity. Both messages are the same.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 5:42pmthis is not just about Gary Johnson. I dont think you will ever get it
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 5:47pmI certainly do get it. Why don’t you at least make an attempt to join reality and get it too? Stop chasing your pipe dream and take some sort of action that will actually make a difference.
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 5:55pmTheRapturComes – You are an ignorant fool !
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 6:00pm@2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
I did. You act as if the last year hasnt happened. Why do you cry about gary johnson when the current republican party would rather lose the election than change its policy? Unlike you, i only vote for republicans who are worth two cents and i certainly wont vote for a progressive
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 6:19pmWhen you take off your utopian glasses you will see that, whether for good or bad, we presently live in a two party system. If you can, by some miracle, force a serious third party into the game, well then God bless you brother, but the chances of ever having a third party candidate in the general presidential election who will muster more than a miniscule fraction of the total vote is slim at best and I would suggest impossible. History is not on your side (Ralph Nader, Ross Perot, Gary Johnson, etc…). If you truly believe change is in order, why don’t you try something new, something that hasn’t failed time and time and time again?
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 6:22pmAmen SocialistSlayer. TheRapturComes is, by all accounts, an ignorant fool.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 6:32pmyou think a 3rd party system will just magically arise? It will not happen until a significant number of americans (who already hate both parties) show up to voice their displeasure or break away from one of the two parties. I dont expect people like you who vote based on ‘who can win’ to ever come to our side.
“If you truly believe change is in order, why don’t you try something new, something that hasn’t failed time and time and time again?”
2+2=4. There is no other way to do it other than push for a 3rd option. We could start by changing the election laws but nobody around here is interested in that
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Female
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 6:45pmHillary…really….just stay home!
First, democratic catholics need to stop support being democrates and then, be particially practicing catholics who ignore or are in rebellion to the Bible and churches teaching on the 3 major thrusts of the democratic party 1. abortion or the killing of the unborn, infanticide, genocide, or the shedding of innocent blood (yes, fetuses all have blood inside which gets literally shredded) 2. any and all sexual activity outside the holy marriage bed which includes those outlined in Leviticus 18 and Romans 1 (to support and approve of homosexuality is to have had your conscience seared) 3. for supporting the welfare state rather than forcing those in need to have to go to the church for counsel, accountability, and true needs.
RR,
No, believers are not to call people “teacher” (Holy Spirit is our teacher) or “father” (God, the Father), yet, there is a unique relationship between Paul and Timothy Link:
http://www.navigators.org/us/staff/whitney/resources/Timothy.pdf
The “Hail Mary” comes from the beautiful words written in Luke 1:26-56 based on words from Gabriel, Martha while filled with the Holy Spirit and in Mary’s song of praise. Please pay close attention to v48
“For He has regarded the lowly state of His maidservant;
For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed.”
BTW I was raised Catholic but chose to submit to my husband’s faith of Protestant Christian.
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 7:01pmSoy, you just keep working on that third party. Let me know how it works out for you. Meanwhile back in Realville, I will be voting for someone who will keep alive your freedom to waste your time.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 7:12pmmost freedom is already lost and with the coming financial collapse, you are about to lose the rest
I am working to restore freedom – you are guarding an empty storehouse
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 7:47pmHow is the unending pursuit of an impossible goal “working to restore freedom”? By your argument, I will beat my head against the wall every day in order to restore freedom. Whose actions are going to produce the desired result? Answer: Neither, but they do both produce a headache.
In all sincerity, do you actually believe a third party will EVER rise that will challenge the current system? If so, upon what foundation do you build your belief? Because it certainly isn’t history.
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Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 8:30pm@ twomin
You sound like coward colonies in congress when they were debating declaring independence or not. “No you can not do this, you will get your heads handed to you!! It will never work!! Let us extend an olive branch!!”
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HI_Don
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 9:37pm@soybomb315_II
I’m sure you’re not against using your brain, so lets just walk through this evolution.
Prior to the election, I certainly support your right and responsibility to do all you can to speak in behalf of what you feel is best for YOUR country, as it is as much yours as mine.
On election day, take a minute before you cast your vote and think through the following:
1) Is there ANY chance that any of Obama’s followers will leave Obama and vote with the 3rd party Johnson, do any of them support any of his platform no matter how much they might be disenfranchised with Obama?
2) How close might this election be? At best, is there ANY data that supports Johnson could get 50% of the vote or even 45%?
3) Is Johnson then actually running to beat Obama, or only to beat Romney?
4) Assuming everything goes as well as it possibly could for Johnson, will then the only accomplishment be that Obama wins just to make a point to the GOP that they are not right as you wish on all issues?
5) How are you going to like the next four years under Obama?
6) What are you going to do in 2016 when you live under sharia law, elections are symbolic only, you are homeless and jobless and possibly in prison and can only wish SOME of the Constitution was still in effect?
Now, feel free to pull that lever however you see best fellow citizen.
Remember the words “United we Stand, divided we fall.”
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 10:16pmi imagine life under Obama to be similar to life under Romney….High debt, more wars, less freedom. Romney isnt even committed to fully repealing Obamacare
So the only reason i should vote for Romney is because you believe in some sort of counterfactual sharia law scenario? Please. If the republicans wanted the libertarian vote, they would have done things differently. The objective of the Romney campaign was to win over the moderates – Romney said exactly that in his 47% speech. Dont blame us just because your strategy is falling apart
Doing the right thing is never wrong. Either the republican party dissolves and becomes the Tea Party or else this country goes bankrupt. This country will not survive with the current republican and democrat parties in control
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JustMel71
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:51pmDedicated to those who don’t get it yet. God Bless Us All before it is too late. Let’s have PEACE for once. Shall we?
Hello God, are you out there?
Can you hear me, are you listenin’ any more?
Hello God, if we’re still on speakin’ terms
Can you help me like before?
I have questioned your existence,
My resistance leaves me cold
Can you help me go the distance?
Hello God, hello, hello
This old world has gone to pieces
Can we fix it, is there time?
Hate and violence just increases
We’re so selfish, cruel and blind
We fight and kill each other
In your name, defending you
Do you love some more than others?
We’re so lost and confused
Hello God, are you out there?
Can you hear us, are you listenin’ any more?
Hello God, if we’re still on speakin’ terms
Can you help us like before?
Oh, the free will you have given
We have made a mockery of
This is no way to be livin’,
We’re in great need of your love
Hello God
Hello God, can you grant us
Love enough to make amends
(Hello God) Is there still a chance
That we could start again
Hello God, we’ve learned our lesson
Dear God, don’t let us go
More than ever
Hello God, hello, hello
Hello God, we really need you
We can’t make it without you
(Hello God) We beseech you
In the name of all that’s true
Hello God, please forgive us
For we know not what we do
Hello God, give us one more chance to prove ourselves to you
Hello, God; hello, God
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1xdoxc
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westtitus
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 6:03pmGod walks away from no one, we do the walking away.
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JustMel71
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 7:09pm@West. That’s correct and if we/all of us don’t turn back to Him, I believe the consequences will be server. We can’t believe in God just for the things we want. God isn’t a part time Deity.
Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. But they, dividing his garments, cast lots.
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perry1980
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:41pmI don’t see how ANY Catholic can vote for Obama?
He supports G@Y Marriage
He supports @bortion
He is forcing you to pay for birth control
Wake Up Catholics Its time to Let Him GO!
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:51pm@Perry
Wouldnt Catholics see both men as believing in false religions?
“I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970, as a US senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v Wade has been the law for 20 years, that we should sustain and support it. And I sustain and support that law, and the right of a woman to make that choice.”
-Mitt Romney (October 25, 1994)
I will preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose, and I am devoted and dedicated to honoring my word in that regard.”
-Mitt Romney (2002)
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tradcatholicgirl
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 7:20amIt is imperative that Catholics vote pro-life, always. If a candidate does not see that each and every person gets life from God and that it is inviolable, then he or she is vulnerable to a host of evils in policy-making. If you are Catholic and pro-choice, maybe it is time to join another church.
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NILAP
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:41pmThe Mormon prophet Joseph Smith spoke many times that the US Constitution would one day be hanging by a thread and its destruction threatened. The so called White Horse Prophecy contains elements of this but this prophecy is not LDS doctrine by any means. The main point is that Joseph Smith spoke about Americans along with members of the LDS church and folks of all faiths will arise to save the US Constitution which is inspired by God and a great gift of His to humanity. One day humanity will embrace the US Constitution and live as a world wide Republic with it as its foundation in the last days when Jesus returns.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:59pmIt seems to be well established that the white horse prophecy relates to a Mormon (or many Mormons) rescuing the country from the brink of disaster
http://mormonthink.com/politics.htm
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riseandshine
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 11:05pmhttp://www.fairlds.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/cobabe-whitehorse.pdf
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FaithfulCitizen
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:39pmYou CANNOT be a faithful Catholic and vote for a politician who supports: abortion, euthanasia, embryonic stem cell research, cloning, or gay “marriage”.
Catholic values are NON-NEGOTIABLE.
Not just my words…
“[I]t must be noted also that a well-formed Christian conscience does not permit one to vote for a political program or an individual law which contradicts the fundamental contents of faith and morals… When political activity comes up against moral principles that do not admit of exception, compromise or derogation, the Catholic commitment becomes more evident and laden with responsibility… This is the case with laws concerning abortion and euthanasia… respect and protect the rights of the human embryo… the family needs to be safeguarded and promoted, based on monogamous marriage between a man and a woman… in no way can other forms of cohabitation be placed on the same level as marriage, nor can they receive legal recognition as such.”
- “Doctrinal Note on some questions regarding the Participation of Catholics in Political Life”, sec. 4 – Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, 11/24/2002
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westtitus
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 6:10pmAmen to that!
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tradcatholicgirl
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 7:32amAmen!
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PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:34pmI would think that conservative catholics appreciate some advice they can take or leave. Atleast there is someone speaking to those with ears to hear. Beck has already had meetings at the Vatican and with Dolan and they know where Beck stands. Beck stands for Jesus and strong principles and family values in addition to common sense for the battered US of A, to restore it if we can. When there are national figures out there that are so disgustingly degrading like madonna, piglosi, and sebilius and others professing they are catholic well I am glad that a Man as extremely busy as Beck will take the time to share our common faith in Christ and Country with all who will listen. Bless you Glenn and the Blaze crew. Stay safe & true.
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joboww
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 11:14amAgain if a Catholic identifies as a conservative its just as bad as when they identify as liberals…there is only orthodox Catholics and dissadents, and the latter contains both the conservatives and libs
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:30pmWhy do good people doing good things make liberals so mad?
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:49pmMary? Mary? Are you out there?
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ZeitgeistBuster
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:54pm“Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.” Mark Twain
“This is the judgment: The Light has come into the world and the children of men loved the darkness more than The Light, because their works were evil.” Apostle John
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.”
Teddy Roosevelt
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Frogster
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:22pmGlenn is right when he says “GOD WILL NOT HOLD US GUILTLESS” if we allow a second term for the WORST PRESIDENCY IN HISTORY. And that goes for ALL of us–not just Catholic, not just Christian, not just Jew, not just YOU NAME IT.
We ALL know that the “Current Mess in Charge” is dishonest, hateful, destructive, self-serving, eager to see America fail, and, in short, downright EVIL. Therefore, we ALL should be doing everything we can to make sure that we get a NEW (REAL) PRESIDENT. It’s as simple as that.
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Magyar
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:45pm…And I fear that if we don’t, God WILL punish the nation!
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Rubicon9Phoenix9
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:22pmPrayer is a Prayer Warrior’s ammunition. God listens to us and when we humbly beseech Him and pray according to His will, miracles happen. May His will be done on earth as it is is Heaven. God loves Israel and will protect them. We, the United States of America, are one of His weapons in defending Israel. We are His to do with as He desires, for He is the Creator, and we His creation. His ways are higher than our ways, and His knowledge if higher than our knowledge. Trust God. He will never fail. What we must do is not hide our faces. We must stand tall and resolute for God and for Israel and for Jesus Christ.
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TEARS FOR AMERICA
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:16pmI am ready for people of faith to throw off the social justice rants and vote for freedom! Forcing other Americans to pay for abortions and abortafacients is tyrannical and godless!!
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justangry
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:59pmI hope God doesn’t hold GB guiltless.
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lildrummerboy
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:22pmseriously, why do you come here then?….you do realize the majority of the people that comment here support Glen in some fashion or another. You must really not have a life to troll where you’re not wanted..But then again your handle says it all…
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:50pmGlenn has obviated his primary mission, which was to rid our system of progressives. Apparently, Glenn is OK with progressives as long as they go to his church.
We reject Romney for the same reasons Glenn rejected Gingrich. We also reject Romney for the same reasons we reject Obama. The same evil is at work in all three men
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justangry
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:52pmOh I support most of what he says, it’s what’s left out, blacked out whatever that I don’t care much for.
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razhunter100
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 7:13pmjust , soy…love the passion.
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G.E.R
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:56pmGlenn Beck is and always will be a tool
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:01pmACCORDING TO YOU???? @ G.E.R thanks for the laugh.
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:04pmThat’s right, he is a hammer and he hit the nail right on the head!
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mrunner
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:25pmYep, Glen is a tool. A tool God is using to help us all.
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lildrummerboy
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:29pmBetter than a fool…
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G.E.R
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:42pmDoesn’t that silly fictional book you people annoyingly and constantly quote say something about idolatry.
Those who pay regard to vain idols forsake their hope of steadfast love Jonah 2:8 .
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:49pmGlenn Beck has prayer all wrong. Prayer is not a bargaining session with God, like the examples he gave on his show today.
And when Mr. Beck was talking about believing in evil, I heard those words coming out of evil’s mouth.
And he is wrong about social justice too. If we as Christians are meant to serve, why is it right to organize at a small level but not a large level. If the country is supposed to be a Christian nation then shouldn’t that organizing be national where we can all work together for good?
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Ben__Franklin
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:57pmMary from all your past posts I do not believe you are Christian, Muslim yes, but Christan NO.
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NHwinter
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:05pmmarybethelizabeth – you need to learn what social justice really is in the Catholic sense. Glenn was right.
http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=47283
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:08pm@MARYBETHELIZABETHSUSIEBETHJANEBETHSALLYBETHLINDABETHJOYBETHBETHBETH
I don’t think anyone here wants to take religious advice from you, based on past posts.
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IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:08pmYou haven’t been to church much have you? As far as social justice when we give to the church or other organizations it is through our own personal giving unlike if it would be for the government they would be collecting other peoples money to give and use as they see fit which is not near as good. A good example of government is in the healthcare long they can say who gets care and who doesn’t. The older people will be in jeopardy if they have anything serious. Yes, someday you will be old.
God will judge if there is evil in our souls.
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encinom
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:13pmThe doctrine of social justice comes from Catholic teachings about good works. Beck the Mormon is attempting to argue against Catholic teachings for his own political gain. Pope John Paul the II was critical of capitalism, where capitalism served only to make the few wealthy and further impoverish the third world.
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dealer@678
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:14pmIs that Mary ,Beth or Elizabeth speaking
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:18pmThe government doesn’t tell people what to do. We are the government. We decide among ourselves through our elected representatives what to do.
You keys need to come back to reality and take some elementary civics lessons.
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JimL
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:21pm…and Mary went and served Elizabeth– Charity
…and remaining, gov interpretted the silence as a mandate for “mercy care”.
see 9/25/12 homily, M. Pacwa, SJ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC_s4vKHOKY&feature=plcp)
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lildrummerboy
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:32pmactually you say bargaining, some would say pleading..even Moses pleaded to save his people from Gods wrath as did others..its called a relationship, as long as you are humble God will listen, even when we’re angry..or stressed out..
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ZeitgeistBuster
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:38pmMaybeth,
“What did you do for the least of these my brethern?”
What do you think Christ will say to you when you flippantly answer back to him, “Well, I paid my taxes, so there, I did my part for my fellow man! <>
Don’t be deceived. Transferring money is the least of the gifts God expects us to bless others with. What about your time, your personal interest, and the human connection that people desperately need? You think a few bucks opts you out of making a personal difference in the strangers life?
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:56pmSo Mr, Ziegiestbuster, You think the government helping people is wrong because no one can’t claim the brownie points as their own for getting into heaven?
Your argument is why do any good work unless you get something back in return?
Or is it the FEAR that
maybe, just maybe, we the people could make is so everyone’s wants and needs were fulfilled then there wouldn’t be any charity to do at all and no one would get into heaven?
A world like that sounds like Kingdom living.
There’s nothing about supporting government assistance programs for the needy that makes people not also want to give of their time. It’s not either or.
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ZeitgeistBuster
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 5:16pmMarybeth,
The government is out of its area of competency when it comes to “helping” people.
If society has broken down to the point where families will not help their own, where churches will not help the needy, where the children of the “values free” educational system feel no responsibility to skim off the success of their businesses and contribute to the good of our society in creative ways, then a government program to shift money around will not fix the festering and rotting corpse of such a society. Government ITSELF has created many of the problems it is allegedy trying to fix!
There is one thing a government program will NEVER be able to do: To know WHEN to cut off a recipient of aid for their own good.
If birds were on welfare, they would never leave the nest. They would never take the risk of leaping from the nest, and thus, they would never know the thrill and joy found in spreading your wings and flying.
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 5:44pmMary, the government doesn’t tell people what to do? Are you serious?
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G man
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:47pmI was on the call. The Bamster will not be getting….54% of ther vote this time around. I don’t think the Jews are stupid any longer either. 145K people on the line. Read it and weep commies.
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:59pmThere are approximately 70 million Catholics in the United States. 145,000 is 2 tenths of 1 per cent.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:00pmAmen and Amen @ G MAN!!! This Catholic Stands with Israel and Christianity !!!
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joboww
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 11:20amnot all Catholics stand lock step with Israel, its a secular state not some religious place. Israel has not been to welcoming of Catholics or Orthodox Christians, so we are a little slow to just throw our hat in.
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Miss Anne
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:35pmGlenn, just shut your pudgy mouth. You’re not a Catholic, have never been one, and have no business telling us what to do, any more than Muslims have a right to tell Jews how to behave. Your “Cloak of all Colors” is getting a little ragged, Glenn, and decent people will tell you to keep your nose in your own outhouse.
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Eric_The_Red_State
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:42pmYou call yourself a Christian? Wow….. wow……
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NHwinter
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:44pmMiss Anne – I believe Glenn was Catholic before he became a Mormon. That doesn’t matter. What he is saying is important and Catholics need to hear it. If you are not interested, why did you even read this article? We value what Glenn has to say. He has brought so much information to us that we would never have learned about. Find another site to bash Glenn.
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IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:47pmYou are so bitter. We do have to be an American and get out to vote and it sure doesn’t hurt to remind people why and where.
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schmamebah
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:49pmWow, what the heck was that? I’m a devout catholic and found no offense to that at all.
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G man
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:49pmSpoken like a true baby killer. You’re not a Catholic. If you are….shame on you.
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:51pmyes, Glenn abandoned his faith.
Being raised a Catholic taught him how to pull the wool over people’s eyes.
PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:55pm@ MISS ANNE: You are wrong on every count, toots. Beck was born CATHOLIC. Beck was invited to speak to Catholics. Beck knows CHRIST and Beck can say anything to anyone he wants to. BECK has earned the right to speak to Americans about America. WITHOUT BECK, this country would BE TOTALLY under the CONTROL of the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD…toots… BECK is our modern day PAUL REVERE and then some.
SO YOU go away, hotshot. MORE trash from the left eh? You guys are not able to sell your faux polls are you…panicking ??? I feel sorry for you but you don’t get any more of my time.
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Ben__Franklin
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:58pmDid Miss Ann forget she was not posting on Huff’in Puffs site?
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NHwinter
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:01pmmarybethelizabeth – You really are not a very nice person! Either that, or you are a depressed person who needs to try to inflict that depression on others.
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Sugabee
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:03pmMaryelizabeth: Your posts are the opposite of your username. May you come to encompass the loving nature of the Theotokos and her sainted mother. Catholics no more ‘pull the wool’ over others’ eyes any more than anyone else who chooses not to follow their faith. Catholicism teaches and IS truth. Shame on you.
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Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:11pmgman, pattyhenry. Insults only make the accuser look silly. Baby killer? Toots? Please…
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:13pmYou misunderstand Sugabe. It is not Catholics who pull the wool over people’s eyes. It is Mr. Beck that learned in his upbringing how to use religious arguments and is deceiving people with them and leading them down the wrong path.
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:26pmAnd out come the hate-filled liberals. Holy Cow!
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lildrummerboy
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:39pm@marybeth..he abandoned his faith? why, because he’s not a catholic? So you’re saying only catholics can have faith? Glen’s faith is spoken through his actions. He donates alot of his money to charity and serves by educating the masses. That is the faith that James talk about. Would you even know what faith looks like if you saw it?
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 5:04pmlldrummerboy, you have listened to Glenn Beck too much and try to see conspiracies and ulterior motives where none exist.
Mr Beck was raised Catholic. He made a choice to become Mormon. He abandoned his Catholic faith.
He now says he’s a Mormon.
I haven’t seen Mr. Beck’s financial records so I don’t know how much money Mr. Beck gives to charity. His “educating” is mostly misinformation and persuasion. There are very, very few facts. Mr. Beck can’t be proved wrong if all he presents is his opinion, but it’s pretty easy to point out incidences of deception in every show he does.
What did James say about deceivers?
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Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 8:18pmI think Glenn uses charity as an investment in his business. P.T. Barnum would be proud of him.
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Sugabee
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 9:19amMaryElizabeth: This is what you wrote….”Being raised a Catholic taught him how to pull the wool over people’s eyes”. What you are saying is that if you are a Catholic (or raised Catholic), you were taught how to deceive people. Or, that if you were raised Catholic, the Catholic faith deceived you and thus you learned how to deceive others. Either way, you are disparaging the Catholic faith!
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sizzlinsexybeckster
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:30pmI think this meeting online and with phone calls was a very sweet idea… not everyone can get out or wants to get out into a crowd of who knows what?…. But I don’t think it’s just for Catholics… it’s for anyone who believes in humanity – the morality of human life as we know it is crushing into non-existence, and very insulting and humiliating for loving people with traditional family values. It’s nice and sweet for Glenn to get together with the crowd in this manner. Glenn is such a hero… standing up for humanity, speaking out in all ways possible to help people open up their eyes and ears with knowledge whether through books, t.v., internet, radio…. to get the entire world on the right track… although these train tracks are really rusty and bent up…. he still tries… unlike the other media outlets in America and creepy puppet celebrities…. I’m sending Glenn a hug his way… and a special thanks to the entire staff at theBlaze. YOU ARE MUCH APPRECIATED!!!!! :o)
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encinom
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:29pmWhy would Catholics vote for the Mormon and Ryan, whose budget plan the Catholic Bishops have deemed immoral in how it gives to the rich while stealing from the middle class and poor. Also for Catholic, look towards the Popes message of a balanced approach towards both Israel and its Arab neighbors. Is Beck tell Catholics to ignore the Holy See and its Bishops?
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RossPoldark
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:35pmYou are so misinformed. Catholics all over the world no longer look to the holy sea for the last word. He is just a figure head and nothing more.
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schmamebah
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:52pmI’m a catholic and I’m voting for Romney because I could give a rat’s **** what religion he is..
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G man
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:54pmWhy not. They voted for a Communist last time around.
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NHwinter
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:55pmencinom – think again!
http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=47283
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Ojebuss
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:03pmPlease Encinom stop reading the Leftist Catholics United website.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:07pmWHY WOULD CATHOLICS or ANY CHRISTIANS (OR JEWS) vote for the Purveyor of the SATANIC Islamic ‘theocracy”… ARE YOU NUTS??? Aside from the fact that this radical twit known as Obama (or whatever name he’s using today) who has a checkered past (worst of any who has ever run for public office) aside from his lousy leadership; the wreckage of America we see today…he could easily be the ANTI-CHRIST… And if you are too damned stupid to connect the dots, follow the bread crumbs or see with your eyes what is going on then go sit down and shut up and let the Adults try to save this country.
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Dismayed Veteran
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:07pmThe Pope’s message was not ex cathedra. Catholics retain their free will in this matter.
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Azzencinom
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:09pmBeck is nothing but a bigoted evil vile person who I hate hate hate. I despise this vile person so much I hang around his site on his every word and help support his advertisers. When I get this heated and upset and my panties in a twist all I can do to calm myself down is pull out my picture of my President Obama and rub my finger on his nose.
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Landon410
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:19pmhow does a budget plan give to the rich?
is it giving to them by not taxing them? because thats not giving, thats just not taking
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westtitus
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 6:09pmIf you voted for Obama you went against the Holy Sea you idiot! You voted money over lives period. Liberals keep saying there are other issues and they are talking about the economy but if you vote your morals and values God will take care of the economic situation. Ye of little faith would rather kill babies and try to take care of any economic problems on your own. Pretty simple.
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encinom
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 9:05pmThe Holy See has spoken against the gospel of greed that Ryan and Romney follow. While Ryan kneels before an altar to Ayn Rand, with his immoral budget, http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=14247. Romney’s and the GOP’s position on immergration and the dream act. There is little in the GOP platform that the Catholic Church agrees with.
Indeed, there is a risk that a radical capitalistic ideology could spread which refuses even to consider these problems [the poor and needy], in the a priori belief that any attempt to solve them is doomed to failure, and which blindly entrusts their solution to the free development of market forces. Pope John Paull II, Centesimus annus, §42.
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joboww
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 11:31am@Ross You are misinformed! first the stupid comment about Catholics dont need to listen to the Holy See anymore is foolish, you are just as bad as the libs that pick and choose, If the Holy Father makes a statement and it is ex cathadra it must be adheared to and one cannot call themselves Catholic if they refuse to listen. Social justice has leg room in it in its application, its not really spelled out because there are many ways to bring about social justice (in the correct sense). Systems like socialism have been definativly defined via the ordinary magestarium thus they must be adheared to because they take away from the very being of man and what he was created for.
@Encinom
Capitalism is indeed condemned if it is capitalism without morals. A capitalist system with basic morals is not condemned because it promotes the owrth of each person who thereby benefits society with their abilitys (both solidarity and subsidiarity) so go back to the chalkboard and try harder in confusing people with your take on social justice and not the Holy sees take
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IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:24pmWe must vote Obama out to save us all. Evil lurks as we sleep. Obama added contraceptives to the health care law instead of stressing morals. So while we have to pay for contraceptives for women there are others that have been multiplying to try to defeat America and Israel.
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Verceofreason
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:12amEven married couples use birth control.
Please – go away.
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Capt-Dax
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:24pmThanks for all you do Glenn..
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blackyb
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:17pmYes, I believe we were not born for this time for no reason. Here we are raising heck, trying to get Congress moving, when they are acting like a bunch of wusses.
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Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:12pmlol.
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